Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Qur’anic Sciences in 30 Days Part 21 Unique Script of the Qur’an

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			Salam alaikum warahmatullahi
wabarakatu Hamdulillah we are back
		
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			together for the 22nd part in the
series on their own Quran. Days
		
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			are going very fast we have
entered in we're entering into the
		
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			last 10 days of Ramadan we've
entered into last 10 days of
		
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			Ramadan May Allah subhanho wa
Taala increase the baraka let us
		
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			begin this with
		
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			a reading of the Quran are all
human a che Vanya Ragini Bismillah
		
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			al Rahman al Rahim
		
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			what either must sell us Nadeau
room ruin the whole money been in
		
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			a film made either one or who
never met them in one sec America
		
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			and a rule in a messy America and
they're all la he knew Khawaja
		
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			island in
		
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			the Llyod.
		
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			Sabine will be co Freekeh Calida
in NACA Amin us in Kameen us have
		
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			been
		
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			men who are called anytune
		
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			Ladies Sajida Oh call me toll free
rotowire Would you rock metal
		
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			rugby? Bull * yes that will
levena Yeah, Allah Moon our Xena,
		
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			Allah yar Allah moon in the girl
who
		
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			saw the color will Aleem
Alhamdulillah Robben Island Amin
		
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			wa Salatu was Salam wirelend
Maruthi Ramadan lil Alameen wa
		
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			early he was so happy about orca
was seldom at the Sleeman Cathy
		
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			Ron Ely Ahmed been buried.
		
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			Today the discussion is regarding
the Rosman Quran Al Karim Rossmo
		
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			Quran will carry meaning the
specific unique script from Athena
		
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			the Allahu Anhu is time that the
Quran has been written for over
		
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			1400 years and it hasn't changed.
We want to discuss that what's so
		
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			special about it and
		
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			what what are the rules regarding
it and a few additional points on
		
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			historical aspects. And you know,
I particularly
		
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			found researching this quite
interesting today. Firstly,
		
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			when we say Rossum, Rossum, it
means script. So it's the way the
		
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			letters and the wording has been
written. And I've checked quite a
		
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			few of the early Kufic writings
and it's really interesting the
		
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			way the LF is written and the way
it's written without dots or
		
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			anything. And I think one of the
wisdoms of why the original
		
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			currents were written without
dots, even, you know, forget the
		
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			Fatah Castra. And the vowel Ling,
but even without dots is because
		
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			according to one opinion, it is to
force people to make sure that you
		
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			studied with a teacher, so that
you just don't take it yourself
		
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			and start reading and start
reading it all wrong. So the it
		
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			was it was to accommodate all of
those various readings plus to
		
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			force people to study with a
teacher, and then you could master
		
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			it that that way. So that's a
really interesting idea. But
		
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			anyway,
		
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			this is what earthmen the Allahu
Anhu had the for the committee of
		
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			four main people that were there,
to inscribe all the Quran 's and
		
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			put them together. That's what he
did. And then he had those 678
		
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			copies go out. So that particular
copy, and then he encouraged
		
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			people to copy it. From there, he
encouraged people to make
		
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			additional copies private copies
of their own, you know, from these
		
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			master copies, because none of
these master copies were the ones
		
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			that included exactly what they
wanted to do. And all the Sahaba
		
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			at that time had agreed with it as
well. That is what you call Rosman
		
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			was half or marsupial hut or Russ
mille must have enough money. So
		
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			this is the automatic script, you
call it right? This is the
		
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			automatic script. Not the Ottoman
script isn't that's a different
		
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			idea. The Ottomans are different.
But this is the original
		
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			manuscripts that it's been written
on.
		
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			Now, this particular way of
writing, there's a long history of
		
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			Arabic writing, and paleography
and all of these other sciences
		
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			that are related to that which we
are not going to go into today.
		
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			But they say that this particular
style of writing must have been
		
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			taken from and must have been the
same as those scribes who were
		
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			called by the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam to write the
		
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			Quran when it was being revealed.
So this particular these 678
		
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			master copies that were made to
center different cities by
		
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			automatically Allahu Anhu. While
obviously taken from there, some
		
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			of the same scribes we use, like
the diviner thermometer, the
		
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			Allahu Anhu. So that's why it's a
very, very important one and that
		
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			was
		
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			A very significant way of writing
the Quran at that time, it was
		
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			probably the common way of writing
the Quran in time for the most
		
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			part, except that there were some
specifics that were included in
		
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			here are some of the Allahu Anhu.
To express certain ideas, we're
		
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			going to go into that a bit more,
we're going to look at that in sha
		
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			Allah today.
		
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			That is why the agreed upon the
majority, the majority have said
		
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			that you can not change the
scripture there. And I've been
		
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			saying that to you in some of the
previous lessons as well that if
		
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			you want to write a new Quran,
that is how you're going to have
		
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			to write it is it is going to be
in the same way. So for example, a
		
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			simple example is if you open the
Quran, you look at the word hula
		
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			Iike. Right? Do you know how the
word hula is written into the
		
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			wall? Right? But that was silent.
And there's a reason why that was
		
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			included. And there's lots of
discussion. There's actually books
		
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			written on this subject as to why
the Quranic script includes
		
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			certain letters like that, that
are not recited, you know, what's
		
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			the purpose of it? Is it to
accommodate another camera? Is it
		
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			to lay emphasis to a certain word,
is it to, you can say elongate the
		
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			word like, in some cases, you've
actually got the word behaving but
		
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			written with two years, for
example, right? Why two years,
		
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			even though one is silent. So some
say it's to actually magnify the
		
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			idea. It's to emphasize the idea.
It's to delay the reading as not
		
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			to delay the reading of the word
but to you can say stretch the
		
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			reading of the world that in tone,
you stretch it here, and there's
		
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			lots of stuff like that that's
mentioned, which is a subject
		
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			matter refer to resume and Assad
of the Rossum? Meaning the secrets
		
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			of the Rossum? That's another
topic on its own. I'm just going
		
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			to allude to it today. And I'll
give you maybe a few examples,
		
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			right? For example,
Bismillahirrahmanirrahim in
		
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			Arabic, according to modern
writing standards, the PRC way or
		
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			the logical way of writing that
would have been with a BA, and
		
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			then an LF, because the word is
ism, and then the BA is with or
		
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			in. So with the name of Allah
should have been beat ismi. But
		
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			they've taken out the Elif, and
generally most people say is
		
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			because this is so commonly and
frequently read and read together,
		
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			always read together, nobody else
No, nobody ever says B is me, Rob
		
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			B is me Rahmani Raheem. Right.
Nobody reads that right. B.
		
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			Esmeralda is a Bismillah Bismillah
R Rahman Rahim nobody says B is
		
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			Mila Rahmani Raheem. Because
that's not the proper way of
		
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			reading it. However, the proper
way of writing it is with an Elif,
		
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			because the original word is
supposed to have an editor. So, or
		
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			Hamza or whatever, you know,
however, you want to call that
		
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			that line. Now, they've connected
it together. So most of these will
		
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			just say many times, you will just
say oh, because of Catarratto
		
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			statement or frequency of usage,
or whatever. But then there's
		
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			other reasons also that I've
provided, which you can read up
		
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			in, in the more deeper books on
this subject. So just to give you
		
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			an idea of what the scholars of
the early,
		
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			early times thought about whether
you can script the Quran, in
		
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			another style or not. So, as I
said, the majority overwhelming
		
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			majority say that you cannot use
any kind of modern alteration or
		
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			modern adaptation or a change, it
must be in the same way. And the
		
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			reason is that
		
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			many actually claimed that the
writing style is from those who
		
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			wrote the war he though wrote the
Revelation, the scribes, which was
		
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			originally governed and dictated
by the Prophet sallallahu alayhi
		
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			wasallam and approved by him,
which makes it dopey, though he
		
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			means which makes it contingent on
revelation in the sense that this
		
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			is something which is you can say
divinely inspired almost right.
		
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			That would be the idea that this
would be divinely inspired. So you
		
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			cannot change this. It is fixed
forever. Even if language
		
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			conventions completely change that
would still still be allowed.
		
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			Anyway, let's read the difference.
I mean, before I explore any other
		
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			ideas, let us understand who's
saying this Imam Muhammad he said
		
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			this he said that room Omaha love
a Ducati must have fear of man via
		
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			a Whoa. And if Oh, Haley dyadic.
It is haram. It is in it is
		
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			unlawful to oppose the writing
script or style of the most half
		
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			of man in even a year or a wow, or
Elif, or anything else can't even
		
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			change, you know, a small letter,
right? I mean, we're not obviously
		
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			It's haram to change it in terms
of
		
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			where do you quit changing its
Meaning because that's obviously
		
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			everybody would agree to that
everybody would agree to that.
		
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			This is you can't even you know,
say the same thing but just
		
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			updated to a modern way of writing
or a new way of writing now. Imam
		
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			Malik Rahim Allah was asked, Can
the Messiah HIF now be written
		
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			according to the new conventions
of how people write? He said law
		
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			in law will get vetted. Rula No,
it has to be read, written
		
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			according to the original script,
original style
		
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			Imam Abu Amara Danny, what are
Maha development? Allah Illuma. He
		
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			says that there's, well, that's
what his observation was that
		
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			there's nobody to oppose this idea
from the OMA at least, maybe for
		
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			his time. And initially that was
the case. That was the case, there
		
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			has been some who have another
opinion afterwards. They've all
		
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			sides have got their views and so
on. I've given you some of the
		
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			evidences as well. Right. I'll
just mention to you, the people
		
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			who are on the other side, those
who consider that it's okay to
		
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			change some of those view. This is
a mainly Abu Bakr Al YBNL, back in
		
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			learning who is a great scholar of
the Quran, and we've heard his
		
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			name before in regards to some
other aspects of the Quran as well
		
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			as the Sebata, Hooroo, Sebata,
Ashraf, and so on. So his opinion
		
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			and likewise IGNOU hull dunes
opinion is also that this is not
		
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			something that was divinely
inspired. It was just the
		
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			convention of the time that
everybody agreed upon. And yes,
		
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			the Sahaba all agreeing to
automatically Allah one writing
		
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			that was just the fact that they
agreed that he did a wonderful
		
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			job. And it was written according
to the convention of the time, but
		
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			language writing changes according
to conventions of time. And that's
		
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			why it doesn't have to rigidly
remain in that way. And it can
		
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			change that was their opinion,
they've got a number of evidence
		
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			is that as I said, it's not the
strongest opinion. But that is
		
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			what they say. Then actually,
there's even a third and a fourth
		
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			opinion, right? Now, the third
opinion is very interesting.
		
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			Remember, these are all minority
opinion, the first one is the
		
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			strongest opinion that is what has
been practiced all the way
		
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			through, right, for the most part,
that's why today you will hardly
		
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			ever come across I've not come
across any must have with the
		
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			script different to that which was
in a towel or thrown at the Allah
		
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			one, there is a view by
		
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			Imam, he didn't even know Abdus
Salam, right, which is really
		
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			interesting. I mean, he's such a
great scholar, he's such a great
		
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			scholar, he had a very interesting
take on it, he says, You should
		
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			not write it in that original
style, you should actually write
		
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			it in the modern style. And that
would be and he's got a reason for
		
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			that. He's saying big, because
		
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			if you're writing the original
style, now remember the original
		
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			style, when you say, the real
site, we only have maintained the
		
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			skeletal style of that, which
means the outline of the letters
		
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			without the vowels and without the
dots, because that style did not
		
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			have dots, and vowels in it. We've
obviously added that, but onto the
		
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			same skeletal style, the same
wording that Uthman or the Alolan
		
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			had written, right. And I compared
some of that today, right, you
		
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			know, with some of the pictures I
have of the Quran, from Tashkent
		
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			and other places, right. But he
was saying that no, you can
		
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			actually change the way that, for
example, Zakat and Salah is
		
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			written and you should change it,
you should not keep it according
		
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			to him, he seems to be quite
forthcoming in that. And his
		
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			reasoning is that if you keep it
in that original way, people are
		
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			going to make mistakes, because
they may not read it correctly.
		
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			That's why you may as well give it
to them in a way that they can
		
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			read it correctly. Right. Now, the
fourth opinion is kind of a
		
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			hybrid, they say that look,
		
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			it's better to keep it that way.
In the original style,
		
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			they're saying that those who
understand the original style, who
		
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			are specific people who can
understand and so on, then it's
		
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			better for them to continue to
read. So they give emphasis to the
		
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			original automatic script.
However, they say that those who
		
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			don't understand the ways of
reading and so on, then those they
		
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			can use a modern style. So they've
got a bit of a hybrid approach.
		
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			But essentially, these are just a
few people, these are a small
		
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			group of people, they are not the
majority. There are some more
		
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			recent scholars as well, who's
saying it should be okay. Some
		
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			have, like, for example, Sheikh
Notre Dame later, he has said that
		
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			you should maintain the original
style, but if it's for training,
		
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			like children or something like
that, for just teaching them how
		
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			to initially get to reading, then
maybe you can change the style. So
		
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			there is that minority view that
does exist down there. However,
		
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			the majority are saying that you
should not change it at all. And
		
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			that's why what's really
interesting is that it's a
		
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			miracle, right? It's a miracle
that despite all of these Quran is
		
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			being copied. And there were so
many, I mean, these were the six,
		
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			seven or eight official copies and
bear with me under the Allahu
		
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			Anhu. Then there were others,
Hajaj and a number of other
		
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			Sultan's and beliefs of the past,
right, they had
		
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			new copies made and sent to
different parts, you know, because
		
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			it was a matter of honor to do it.
I mean, it cost a lot of money to
		
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			do this, you know, rod, a lot of
effort to do this. And they sent
		
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			it to the different towns and
cities and so on. And it's a
		
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			miracle that until today, we've
got the same kind of skeleton
		
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			script, and that has not gone
through a change. Yes, we've added
		
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			dots and we've added all of these
other things and, and so on, but
		
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			it has not gone through a chain.
That's a miracle of the Quran that
		
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			Allah subhanaw taala has even
preserved the very script from
		
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			over 1400 years ago.
		
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			Now, what are the differences that
		
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			At the this, what are the
differences to the you can say the
		
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			kind of now more conventional way
of writing write is found in the
		
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			authentic scripts? What is it? So,
		
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			just to give you a quick idea, I
mean there's hundreds of examples,
		
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			but to give you a quick idea
		
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			there are it comes down to a few
points, okay. It comes down to a
		
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			few points which are the
following.
		
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			One of them is
		
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			certain letters becoming admitted,
though they recited in the Quran,
		
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			right? For example. Yeah, demo.
Yeah, demo should be written as a
		
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			yeah Elif for ya. And then Elif
dal MIMO Hamza datamine for Adam.
		
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			Now what's happened instead is the
year that one Elif has been taken
		
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			out and it just ya Elif or Hamza
dal meme, which means you have to
		
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			put a standing Fatah on the year
to read is the demo and has on it
		
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			to be composed of Adam. Similarly
in some places, yeah, a Yohannes
		
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			instead of year, yeah, Elif and
then a Yohannes. With another
		
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			Hamza, it's actually written with
just one and there's a standing
		
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			Fatah on the year, right. So that
one Elif has been omitted.
		
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			Likewise, in the word ha and to n
j. Now come and J now come there's
		
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			no Elif after the noon to stretch
it. You rather put a standing
		
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			Fatah on there.
		
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			Thereafter that the word or
Rockman pretty much most of the
		
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			time when you see a Rahman written
the Quran, you're not going to see
		
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			it written as in fact, I don't
even write my name. Well, it's not
		
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			my name. It's Allah His name.
Right. But my name is Abdul
		
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			Rahman. When I write it, I write
it as a raw man. Right, which
		
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			essentially means
		
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			I live lamb
		
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			raw. Ha, that's raw meme noon, I
should actually write a meme Elif
		
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			to stretch the me man, right? But
no, I put a standing Fattah
		
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			instead on it. So there's many
words like that Subhana is
		
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			generally spent without the Elif
in the Quran as well as Subhana
		
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			rodby. Right.
		
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			There's many words like that,
there's many words like that, then
		
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			there are where the WoW would be
removed.
		
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			Subhanallah there's so many of
them. But in add in should have
		
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			been by the UN, the UN where the
year has been removed. Then
		
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			there's other so there's the first
category where letters have been
		
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			removed, but they still read and
that is, I mean, does anybody read
		
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			ramen has ramen? Right? I mean,
because we have the standing for
		
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			today We accommodated for that for
people who came later who couldn't
		
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			understand how to work this out
from the original skeletal
		
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			wording. They figured it out and
we add standing Fatah to it so
		
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			that's why we read Rockman is
awesome and then after that
		
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			there's another aspect which is
the add words which are silent.
		
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			They add letters rather which is
like an Ola eco is added right?
		
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			Nobody reads is oh la eco right?
Oh, well. It's just hola eco is
		
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			silent. Likewise in Bani Israel.
They've added an Elif after the
		
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			venue.
		
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			Right? Except in certain places.
Likewise, in the Humala cool rugby
		
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			him. There's an Elif added after
the WoW of Mullah coup, which is
		
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			silent. Right? Some say that that
could refer to it being a plural.
		
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			That's an indication that this is
a plural. Wow. That's why all l BB
		
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			all l BB. That's really
interesting. Because in there,
		
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			you've got an extra Wow, it's
written as a leaf. Wow, lamb Wow.
		
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			Elif Oh, Lu. That's how you would
say it if you didn't know. So that
		
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			what that first one is silent. So
that's what an elephant science is
		
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			all about Bob.
		
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			Just a few examples. Then there's
the Hunza there's lots of changes
		
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			with the Hamza. Sometimes they add
it sometimes they take it out.
		
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			Then there's changes. Like for
example,
		
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			where we should have been an
airlifted out a while instead. The
		
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			typical example of that is solid,
solid Should we read into knows
		
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			what solid lamb or Lifta instead
of Elif divided Uh, wow, solid
		
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			lead lamb well, but no with that
while we silent, instead we put a
		
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			standing for town, they really are
solid. And likewise, we read
		
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			Zika in the same kind of way.
Okay. There after that you've got
		
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			some places where that where they
put a year instead, for example,
		
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			Yamaha serata. So that should have
been the Elif at the end to
		
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			stretch data, but it's the ties
there
		
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			but then it has a year after it,
and you're probably standing for
		
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			10 instead. Likewise, another year
as for either use of us, FDA
		
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			should have been an elephant the
end, they have a smaller list,
		
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			which you've added later, but the
skeleton style actually has a year
		
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			there which is silent.
		
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			And
		
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			right. Another one is some places
two words are connected and
		
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			written in one connected style,
while others they're separated.
		
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			For example, unlearn taboo, Illa,
Illa, Allah and La taboo that you
		
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			do not unlike,
		
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			in many cases, it's written
separately as an Elif noon, and
		
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			then law as with a space in
between, right? In other cases,
		
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			it's actually written together
with no space in between.
		
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			Likewise, I'm Ma am Manu who and
who. So AMA, is written as an MA,
		
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			because that's the original
letters. That's the original words
		
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			I known. And then separately, ma
knew who and who, but no, it's
		
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			written as Amma like, um, Mayor,
sir alone, you know, the sort of
		
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			check out that's written I'm Mayor
desert alone. It's written written
		
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			as a as a meme
		
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			with a Fatah. Right, anma.
		
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			Instead of an MA Yoda, sir alone
about what are they asking a
		
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			question? So these were all
likewise, the word coup lemma.
		
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			kendama is written all together in
some places. And in one place,
		
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			it's written separately. So
there's only one place in a one
		
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			way street and separately,
scholars have gone through all of
		
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			this, you can check this in the it
kind of see you at Mana Hill,
		
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			Irrfan, reserach, she is gone
through pretty much all of them,
		
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			of exactly where it's supposed to
be what? Now those who say that
		
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			this is this was just a convention
of the time, whatever, then if one
		
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			of the evidence, this is actually
one of the evidence is used by
		
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			those who say that it's divinely
inspired, because if it was not
		
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			divinely inspired, then it would
be uniform throughout. Whereas
		
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			AMA, in some cases is written
together, whereas in other cases
		
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			written separately. So why is it
written together in some basis?
		
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			And separate Knowledgebase?
Likewise, all the other examples,
		
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			then the, you know, while they are
written mostly like that, but in
		
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			some cases, they're written
separately. So what's the reason
		
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			for that? Not in all of them, but
in some of them? So they're saying
		
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			that it's divinely inspired?
That's why it's written like that,
		
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			because there's certain other
secret in there a certain other
		
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			significance in there. The other
group will say, No, it's
		
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			conventional. It's okay. They
saying that, Oh, that actually
		
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			proves they're using that same
evidence to say they actually
		
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			prove that this was not divinely
inspired. This was just because
		
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			there were different scribes who
wrote these, right, the different
		
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			parts, so they just wrote him
differently. That's what they say.
		
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			The meaning is the same though,
right? The meaning is the same. It
		
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			doesn't change the meaning it's
just the way it's written.
		
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			Now, in English, I would I would
give you a few examples of this. I
		
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			think, in English while you've got
the word.
		
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			A wry, right? I don't know how
most people would probably
		
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			pronounce that wrong, that things
have gone aw ry, right. It's
		
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			actually pronounced array. Now, if
you go to Malaysia, right. In this
		
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			country, we write post code as P O
S T and C O D E post code if
		
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			you're going to Malaysia I'm not
joking official spelling's
		
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			postcode, P O S. Cod, you got any
Malaysians this thing they'll be
		
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			able to clarify this. postcode
postcode. Right? Now if you go to
		
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			Barbados, they don't say speed
boat, they say speed boat, speed
		
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			boat, but they still write it as
speed boat like Bo, B O A T.
		
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			Right? Otherwise, it should have
probably been written as B O WT
		
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			right? You can see what's going on
here. This is the kind of issues
		
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			we're having that why did they
specify a specific slide? Can we
		
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			change that? No. Let's say today
people in English are saying you
		
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			know there's a lot of words here
where we have these silent letters
		
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			like come on man. There's those
		
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			knife. Why do you have to write a
K at the beginning of it? Why
		
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			can't you just write it as and?
Knife and I why F knife? Right?
		
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			And why can't that be read as Naef
right? You can see it's in English
		
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			as well. There's this and you know
things have changed.
		
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			Shop used to be spelt as s h o p p
before Sharpie and that's why when
		
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			we it was the old Sharpie there
was one in rams bottom right up in
		
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			Lancashire and we used to say
Sharpie you know is that because
		
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			that's how you spell
		
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			out, but it's just the old way of
and the new way of spelling things
		
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			that change was, you know,
obviously normal can normal Arabic
		
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			is not written the way the Quran
is written, you know, today
		
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			you have some of the examples.
		
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			ni se all of these ones with a
cane that between me, you know,
		
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			why does the K have to be
continued to write data center?
		
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			Netta. So don't think this is
particular to Arabic, right? But
		
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			anyway, what the first group is
saying that all of this is
		
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			divinely inspired and needs to be
like that, because there's a
		
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			certain benefit in that. A certain
reason in that I've not looked
		
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			into it is spelt a y knife is
spelled with a K in the beginning.
		
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			I'm not sure was it? Can I before
was it Kenny before? Right, you
		
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			know from another subject
language. And that's why it became
		
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			like that it's just morphed and
evolved into what is right now, I
		
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			don't know. But in Arabic, the
words have been straightforward
		
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			like that the way it is. Arabic is
a very exacting science, it's
		
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			script is very exacting, actually.
And it's one of the shortest
		
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			languages to write. Right? Because
the vowels are just letter, the
		
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			vowels are just signs. Whereas in
English, a vowel A e, i, o, u
		
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			takes a whole letter. To write
cat, you have to write a C, a big
		
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			A, and then a T, right? So that's
cat, the A takes as much space as
		
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			a C and a T. Whereas in Arabic,
that pit don't just two words,
		
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			don't cough tall, and you just
have the cursor there. Right? It's
		
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			just takes less space. So Arabic,
you can get a lot more Arabic in a
		
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			shorter amount of space, then you
can, for example, English, or
		
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			francais or German, or whatever
the case is, right?
		
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			So now that gives you a better
idea of what's going on. So now
		
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			some other interesting points. If
the original writing of Uthman
		
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			Radi Allahu Anhu was a skeletal
form of writing. Okay, which I
		
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			tried to demonstrate to you today.
Let me I don't know if it came out
		
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			properly. But let me see if we can
show you a better picture today of
		
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			it. Where I tried to read some of
this today. And it's mashallah
		
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			it's a bit of a challenge to read.
So this is the original Kufic
		
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			script. I don't know. Is that
appearing? Let's go a bit close.
		
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			Yes. Can you see it? Are you?
		
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			Can you see how the lifts and so
on are written on there? Alright.
		
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			It's, you know, it's very
difficult to read. I mean, I can't
		
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			read that unless I eventually find
a word. That makes sense. For
		
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			example, there was one here that I
figured out, because I figured out
		
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			he says Holocaust somewhere it
will. And it's really interesting
		
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			the way it's written. But anyway,
that was the way it was written,
		
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			who started adding these dots and
so on, who started adding the dots
		
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			and the vowels and so on, there
was obviously a need, because, you
		
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			know, it was difficult for
everybody to go and learn it by a
		
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			teacher. And that just, you could
say, just caused issues sometimes,
		
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			and the scholars later thought
that it was fine to add the dots.
		
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			There was obviously a difference
of opinion at the beginning about
		
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			that, but now, it's become
accepted by all to add dots. I
		
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			don't know if anybody's there
today, who still claims that no,
		
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			there should be no dots in the
Quran. Right? It should be still,
		
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			according to that. Who was the
first person to add the dots. They
		
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			said that this actually happened
quite early.
		
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			In my mobile era, it says in my
mobile that is one of the very
		
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			famous grammarians here he his
report says that the first person
		
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			to do it was none other than a
famous student of Ali ignitability
		
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			by the Allahu anhu, who was
actually also considered to be one
		
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			of those who devise the grammar
laws right the grammar laws of
		
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			Arabic was name was above us with
a dually above us well, Dali is an
		
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			amazing individual right he's a
tabby and he was actually a mohawk
		
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			Rami right meaning that he was as
far as I remember he was actually
		
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			supposed to be a Muslim already
during the prophesy blossoms life
		
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			but he never met him so anyway
he's a famous should have added to
		
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			the hola Juan are big scholar,
major scholar, and that's his
		
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			title above us with a dually or DD
from that tribe. However, his real
		
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			name his actual name was a violin
abnormal violin ignore Hammer was
		
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			actually his name, which is a
really interesting name for those
		
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			who understand meaning of volume
design ignore Hammer was his name,
		
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			but his his title goes by Apple, I
swear to God.
		
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			Others mentioned that actually not
the first person to start adding
		
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			the dots was the famous Tabby able
to sit in the dream interpreter.
		
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			Right? He were not that he did it
for the public, but he had a must
		
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			have, which was probably, you
know, inherited and seen by
		
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			everybody else later a person must
have in which it actually added
		
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			the dots himself. Okay.
		
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			And he, the dots were actually
added for him by Yahia blue Jamar,
		
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			not himself. He got somebody else
to do it. Jah has another great
		
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			literature, Scott Scott of Arabic
of the early times. He says in his
		
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			skateable I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. The book of cities that
		
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			Nasir ignore Asim was the first
person to do this. Now it looks
		
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			like maybe people did this in
different eras because I mean, it
		
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			was difficult to read. So they
thought, let me make it easy maybe
		
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			for my children, or for my family
or for my students. So they
		
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			decided to add the dots are here.
This is a TA and not a third. This
		
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			is a bar. This is a GMAT not a ha.
Right. So don't read them all like
		
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			hearts, because today we probably
think they're all Ha, are they
		
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			all? Well, the Bata and 30 is no
letter like a batter and you know,
		
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			that goes like that without a.in
it without dots in it. But yeah,
		
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			that's how it was. So it looks
like numerous people probably did
		
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			it. And then eventually it became
the convention. That's why it's
		
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			very difficult to trace who did it
first. Now, a bit of other history
		
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			on this right is
		
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			her judge had a real interest in
the Quran. Now you may have read
		
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			about her judge and his tirades
and how many Sahaba the 1000s of
		
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			individuals he killed, among which
a huge group of Sahaba as well
		
00:31:00 --> 00:31:03
			that he killed, I mean, he was a
tyrant, anybody who went against
		
00:31:03 --> 00:31:07
			him, he was actually working on as
a governor of the Romanians
		
00:31:07 --> 00:31:13
			Abdullah Medicube number one, and
he he caused a lot of problem at
		
00:31:13 --> 00:31:16
			that time, but he had a very
special interest in the Quran. So
		
00:31:16 --> 00:31:19
			let me tell you a few things that
he did just so you understand,
		
00:31:19 --> 00:31:21
			right? How they did things.
		
00:31:23 --> 00:31:30
			Hydrogen the use of while he had
this iron * rule and you know
		
00:31:30 --> 00:31:34
			people have considered to him him
to be one of the greatest
		
00:31:34 --> 00:31:37
			oppressors of our history and so
on. I mean, you guys have heard
		
00:31:37 --> 00:31:39
			his history right? He
		
00:31:40 --> 00:31:46
			ironically right also has a major
role to play in serving the Quran
		
00:31:46 --> 00:31:47
			right
		
00:31:49 --> 00:31:51
			now, firstly,
		
00:31:53 --> 00:31:57
			of man, just like a thunder the
Alon had Quran has produced those
		
00:31:57 --> 00:32:01
			main Quran 's and sent to the
different cities had judge also
		
00:32:01 --> 00:32:05
			distributed copies of the Quran to
various cities not a different one
		
00:32:05 --> 00:32:09
			the same one right. But with his
like, you know, the I've done this
		
00:32:10 --> 00:32:13
			right so his copies that's why
Obaidullah ignore Abdullah ignore
		
00:32:13 --> 00:32:16
			Earth but states that the most
half of Medina the one the
		
00:32:16 --> 00:32:19
			official copy in Madina, Munawwara
was originally kept in the
		
00:32:19 --> 00:32:21
			prophet's mosque and read from it
every morning. That was the
		
00:32:21 --> 00:32:26
			original copy of Madina, Munawwara
but in the civil so in the civil
		
00:32:26 --> 00:32:30
			strife surrounding of Monroe, the
hola horns assassination, someone
		
00:32:30 --> 00:32:33
			absconded with it, somebody took
off with it. Right. Mahara
		
00:32:33 --> 00:32:37
			xenophobic reports from his
father, who was among her judges
		
00:32:37 --> 00:32:41
			gods that had judge commissioned
several mishaps and sent one of
		
00:32:41 --> 00:32:45
			them to Madina. Munawwara now
Earthman read the alarms family
		
00:32:45 --> 00:32:49
			remember they had a personal copy,
right of authenticity and that he
		
00:32:49 --> 00:32:52
			was actually martyred while he was
reading and there's a blood stain
		
00:32:52 --> 00:32:55
			on there, right? There's supposed
to be a blood stain on the
		
00:32:55 --> 00:32:58
			apparently with man with the
allowance found family actually
		
00:32:58 --> 00:33:02
			found this distasteful the head
judge was actually sending a copy
		
00:33:02 --> 00:33:05
			there later. This was much later
obviously, right. But when they
		
00:33:05 --> 00:33:08
			were asked to bring forth the
original, that it may be then
		
00:33:08 --> 00:33:12
			recited from so they could replace
the Medina and one and they could
		
00:33:12 --> 00:33:16
			give the personal copy. They
obviously didn't agree to do that.
		
00:33:16 --> 00:33:18
			And in fact, some of them said
that he had been destroyed on the
		
00:33:18 --> 00:33:21
			day of or thunder the
assassination. Allah knows best,
		
00:33:21 --> 00:33:24
			right? That's what the report
says. More Harris was informed
		
00:33:24 --> 00:33:28
			that oath commands are the alarms
master copies still survived in
		
00:33:28 --> 00:33:31
			the possession of his grandson,
Heidi Dibner armory, Ben Earthman.
		
00:33:33 --> 00:33:38
			However, we can assume that the
most half that had judged sent was
		
00:33:38 --> 00:33:41
			adopted for public recitation in
the Prophet salallahu Masjid in
		
00:33:41 --> 00:33:46
			lieu of the original right. That's
why it knows about Allah says
		
00:33:46 --> 00:33:50
			Elijah had sent the Quran to major
cities including a larger into
		
00:33:50 --> 00:33:54
			Medina and was the first to
dispatch the moose have two towns.
		
00:33:54 --> 00:33:59
			He wanted to get the Quran out
there for people to read. ignatia
		
00:33:59 --> 00:34:03
			says when the Abbas Rula al MADI
became Khalif, he sent another
		
00:34:03 --> 00:34:07
			must have to Madina Munawwara
which it is being read from even
		
00:34:08 --> 00:34:12
			now. So this is an Abu Shabazz
time that the one in Madina
		
00:34:12 --> 00:34:15
			Munawwara was the one sent by
Maddie not the original which one
		
00:34:16 --> 00:34:18
			which disappeared somewhere,
right? The most of her hijab was
		
00:34:18 --> 00:34:24
			removed in place. So Maddie was an
ambassador, right? Which, who
		
00:34:24 --> 00:34:27
			basically took over from the
Romanians. Now remember, hijab is
		
00:34:27 --> 00:34:31
			with the Romanians. So what they
did when the Abbasids came in MADI
		
00:34:31 --> 00:34:36
			he put his most half there and and
hijab is one that was removed and
		
00:34:36 --> 00:34:42
			kept in a box next to the pulpit
at least. So lots of this kind of
		
00:34:42 --> 00:34:45
			changes and things like that took
part in history now there's
		
00:34:45 --> 00:34:47
			another thing I want to mention
this you guys will find this
		
00:34:47 --> 00:34:48
			interesting
		
00:34:49 --> 00:34:53
			I'll head hedges role as regard to
the Quran was just not confined to
		
00:34:53 --> 00:34:56
			commissioning further mishaps. He
didn't just get some additional
		
00:34:56 --> 00:34:59
			mishaps created Abu Mohammed Hey
Manny reports that had judge once
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:04
			called for a gathering of the
whole five. And for those who
		
00:35:04 --> 00:35:07
			recited the book professionally,
that a proper carries, and for
		
00:35:07 --> 00:35:11
			those who are Hafeez of the Quran,
he also took a seat among them
		
00:35:11 --> 00:35:14
			because he was from the former
group which is he was a half east
		
00:35:14 --> 00:35:18
			of the Quran. Okay, there's a
harvest of the Quran. And then he
		
00:35:19 --> 00:35:23
			he started this whole committee to
you know do to do what? He then
		
00:35:23 --> 00:35:27
			asked them to count the number of
the characters in the Quran. Every
		
00:35:27 --> 00:35:29
			single letter of the Quran
counted, I want to know how many
		
00:35:29 --> 00:35:33
			letters are in the Quran. Once
finished, they unanimously agreed
		
00:35:33 --> 00:35:44
			on the round figure of 340,750
characters. There are 340,750
		
00:35:44 --> 00:35:45
			characters in the Quran.
		
00:35:47 --> 00:35:50
			I'm assuming character here
probably means words.
		
00:35:51 --> 00:35:57
			Or letters. I'm not sure if you're
in 40,750 characters characters
		
00:35:57 --> 00:36:01
			supposed to be letters right? His
curiosity became far from expended
		
00:36:02 --> 00:36:06
			after that, he then sought to
discover at which character lay
		
00:36:06 --> 00:36:12
			half the Quran. Now I want you to
take that number and divide 347 50
		
00:36:12 --> 00:36:15
			by two and wherever that comes,
that's going to be the middle word
		
00:36:15 --> 00:36:17
			of the Quran. And you know what
that middle word of the Quran is
		
00:36:17 --> 00:36:19
			most of you will know this, what
is it?
		
00:36:21 --> 00:36:26
			Exactly the it is in Surah 18
verse 19, at the character far in
		
00:36:26 --> 00:36:31
			well, yet a lot of that sort of
will gaff while yet the locked
		
00:36:31 --> 00:36:36
			off, that's actually where it is.
Then he asked where each 1/7 was
		
00:36:36 --> 00:36:39
			in the Quran, so that it will
facilitate for those people who
		
00:36:39 --> 00:36:42
			wanted to finish the Quran in
seven days, so count for me,
		
00:36:42 --> 00:36:46
			according to not how many pages
it's written on, but the exact
		
00:36:46 --> 00:36:51
			letters telling me exactly where
each seventh ends. Now I could
		
00:36:51 --> 00:36:55
			read all of this for you. But you
can find this in in the book. I'm
		
00:36:55 --> 00:37:00
			not going to mention all of this.
So his next aim was to uncover the
		
00:37:00 --> 00:37:03
			location of each third in the
Quran and fourth in the Quran. I
		
00:37:03 --> 00:37:06
			don't know if he did it or not.
But that was his intention. He man
		
00:37:06 --> 00:37:08
			he mentioned that her judge would
follow the progress of the
		
00:37:08 --> 00:37:12
			committee every night. He used to
check what's going on every night,
		
00:37:12 --> 00:37:15
			the entire undertaking required
for months.
		
00:37:16 --> 00:37:19
			Now, the author of this book,
Sheikh Mustafa allows me he says
		
00:37:19 --> 00:37:25
			that he tried to verify this
counting of these characters. So
		
00:37:25 --> 00:37:30
			he said that he used a plain text
copy of the Quran, digital plain
		
00:37:30 --> 00:37:33
			text copy of the Quran, without
diagrammatic diacritical marks,
		
00:37:34 --> 00:37:38
			and there was a small software
that he used. And the count that
		
00:37:38 --> 00:37:52
			he received was 332,795 332,795.
Not really too far from 340,750.
		
00:37:53 --> 00:37:56
			That is just what about seven?
		
00:37:57 --> 00:37:59
			About seven
		
00:38:00 --> 00:38:07
			740. And that's 330 to 330 to
30,000, about 7000 words,
		
00:38:07 --> 00:38:12
			different 7000 characters
different rather. Now, you might
		
00:38:12 --> 00:38:14
			think that's a big difference.
Actually, it's insignificant
		
00:38:14 --> 00:38:18
			difference. The reason is, he says
number one, you have to have a
		
00:38:18 --> 00:38:22
			methodology of what you're going
to count as a letter, right? Are
		
00:38:22 --> 00:38:26
			you going to count wherever a word
has a shredder like
		
00:38:30 --> 00:38:31
			sub
		
00:38:32 --> 00:38:36
			in the corner is written as solid
and above the bar the shredder on
		
00:38:36 --> 00:38:38
			top which represent which
represents idea that this has two
		
00:38:38 --> 00:38:42
			letters there? Are you going to
count as two letters or that word
		
00:38:42 --> 00:38:45
			is two letters? Or are you going
to count as three letters because
		
00:38:45 --> 00:38:50
			originally it's three letters sub
is sub, and then both side Barbra.
		
00:38:50 --> 00:38:53
			So what was her judges
methodology? What about the
		
00:38:53 --> 00:38:58
			initial lf that is read but not
written or written but not read?
		
00:38:58 --> 00:39:01
			Did he count those? What was his
procedure? What was his
		
00:39:01 --> 00:39:03
			methodology? So there's going to
be a difference in that, right?
		
00:39:05 --> 00:39:09
			That's why it's very, very similar
given that we don't know exactly
		
00:39:09 --> 00:39:11
			whether he counted the ellipse or
not, or whether he counted the
		
00:39:11 --> 00:39:14
			double letters or not as two
letters, a one letter, it's
		
00:39:14 --> 00:39:17
			actually very, very close. Now.
There's nothing that we're going
		
00:39:17 --> 00:39:20
			to how the Quran spread further
into the public. I mean, you know,
		
00:39:20 --> 00:39:25
			we've spoken about these official
copies, right that were inscribed,
		
00:39:25 --> 00:39:28
			you know, that were commissioned
by the rulers and the governors
		
00:39:28 --> 00:39:31
			and things like that starting with
one of the Allah one. Now, what
		
00:39:31 --> 00:39:34
			happened is that if you or I
wanted a Quran to be written for
		
00:39:34 --> 00:39:37
			myself, right, how would you do
it? There was no printing press.
		
00:39:38 --> 00:39:40
			There were no shops selling the
Quran. In fact, it was prohibited
		
00:39:40 --> 00:39:46
			in the beginning to take any
payment to have any kind of money
		
00:39:46 --> 00:39:49
			transfer with regards to the
Quran. So
		
00:39:50 --> 00:39:52
			the way they would do it is you
would bring the parchment, right,
		
00:39:52 --> 00:39:56
			you would bring the paper, right,
you would bring the paper to the
		
00:39:56 --> 00:39:59
			member of the masjid right in
front of the machine, maybe after
		
00:39:59 --> 00:40:00
			some
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:03
			A lot of something you say Is
there anyone who's a scribe here
		
00:40:03 --> 00:40:05
			who can write because I don't know
how many people knew how to write
		
00:40:05 --> 00:40:08
			eventually we must have increased
but is there somebody who can
		
00:40:08 --> 00:40:12
			write because I mean, writing the
Quran is something, even if you
		
00:40:12 --> 00:40:14
			can write today, I mean writing
the Quran, you know, you want to
		
00:40:14 --> 00:40:17
			write in this, you want it to be
written nicely so that you can
		
00:40:17 --> 00:40:21
			keep it forever, right. So, you
know, I may be able to write
		
00:40:21 --> 00:40:23
			English, but my writing
handwriting isn't that great. So
		
00:40:23 --> 00:40:27
			I'll probably get somebody else to
do it. So the idea is that you
		
00:40:27 --> 00:40:30
			would stand in the front with some
papers, and you'd say that can you
		
00:40:30 --> 00:40:33
			help. So then somebody like
signing would come and say that
		
00:40:33 --> 00:40:36
			here, you know, I'll write it for
you. And then this would be done
		
00:40:36 --> 00:40:39
			over the course of many, many
days, different scribes would
		
00:40:39 --> 00:40:42
			volunteer, this was all voluntary
in the beginning, right? So over
		
00:40:42 --> 00:40:45
			several days or weeks or whatever,
different, you know, based on
		
00:40:45 --> 00:40:48
			their time, the different people
would come and they would inscribe
		
00:40:48 --> 00:40:51
			it for you and you thank them,
right. You may maybe even give
		
00:40:51 --> 00:40:55
			them a gift or something. However,
as Islam spread, the demand grew,
		
00:40:55 --> 00:41:03
			okay. And that's when they became
professional copyists. Right
		
00:41:03 --> 00:41:06
			became professional copyists,
which means scribes,
		
00:41:06 --> 00:41:09
			calligraphers, you can call them
maybe, or people who just copied
		
00:41:09 --> 00:41:13
			them right calligraphers. So,
however, there was a big
		
00:41:13 --> 00:41:16
			difference of opinion. It looks
like maybe the majority in the
		
00:41:16 --> 00:41:19
			beginning didn't agree to this,
right. However, slowly, slowly,
		
00:41:19 --> 00:41:23
			they started agreeing. If no
Masuda deal on the sahabi I'll
		
00:41:23 --> 00:41:29
			come masuk should I know Hi, Abdul
Musa. All of these are targeting
		
00:41:29 --> 00:41:33
			they were dead against it that you
cannot charge for this. Yes, have
		
00:41:33 --> 00:41:36
			copies do that as a job but you're
not you can't charge your How can
		
00:41:36 --> 00:41:36
			you charge for the Quran?
		
00:41:38 --> 00:41:40
			The others, they said we're not
charging for the Quran. We're
		
00:41:40 --> 00:41:44
			charging for the ink. You know,
somebody's gonna have to get the
		
00:41:44 --> 00:41:49
			ink. We're charging for the time
that is spent in doing this, the
		
00:41:49 --> 00:41:53
			ink and so on and so forth. So
that's why some of the early
		
00:41:53 --> 00:41:56
			adopters of that was ignorant I
bursa the Allahu Anhu said, aw
		
00:41:56 --> 00:42:01
			Jubail, YBNL Hanafi and Muhammad
Abdul Hanafi, who is actually the
		
00:42:01 --> 00:42:05
			other son of alira, the Allahu
anhu, from from the brother of
		
00:42:05 --> 00:42:09
			Hassan Hussain, but from another
mother, right from Hana fear. So
		
00:42:09 --> 00:42:13
			he was a great scholar. So all of
them, they didn't find it too
		
00:42:13 --> 00:42:16
			distasteful. So that was for
copyist, you know, to get somebody
		
00:42:16 --> 00:42:18
			to write it out for you. Now,
		
00:42:19 --> 00:42:24
			slowly, slowly what happened is
that Quran per copy started
		
00:42:24 --> 00:42:27
			writing Quran so if you had one
written for you, you might want to
		
00:42:27 --> 00:42:31
			sell it to someone else, because
maybe you got to your gifted one
		
00:42:31 --> 00:42:33
			or something like that, or you
just needed the money. Were you
		
00:42:33 --> 00:42:36
			allowed to sell it or not? So
again, the same kind of difference
		
00:42:36 --> 00:42:38
			of opinion. In fact,
		
00:42:40 --> 00:42:43
			you had the people like Abdullah
Nakamura, the Allah wanna his son
		
00:42:43 --> 00:42:49
			Salim ignore me, Abdullah. He
called it a very distasteful and
		
00:42:49 --> 00:42:53
			dreadful trade to be able to sell
the Quran, right? It says no,
		
00:42:53 --> 00:42:56
			you're not allowed to sell that
give it for free, or whatever the
		
00:42:56 --> 00:42:56
			case is.
		
00:42:58 --> 00:43:01
			But others they said it's allowed
because again, you're not selling
		
00:43:01 --> 00:43:03
			the Quran because the Quran
doesn't belong because our
		
00:43:03 --> 00:43:06
			discussion was that the Quran
belongs to Allah, it's Allah's
		
00:43:06 --> 00:43:09
			words, how can you sell those?
Right? So the other said that no,
		
00:43:09 --> 00:43:12
			you're not selling the Quran, you
can't sell the Quran and what
		
00:43:12 --> 00:43:15
			you're selling is the paper on
which it's on the parchment, it's
		
00:43:15 --> 00:43:18
			on. That's what you're selling,
you're saying the parchment, the
		
00:43:18 --> 00:43:20
			ink and the word, that's what
you're selling, not the Quran
		
00:43:20 --> 00:43:24
			itself. That's why later it became
permissible even today, we hear
		
00:43:24 --> 00:43:28
			from some people, you can't sell
the Quran. So then eventually, the
		
00:43:28 --> 00:43:30
			opinion became that you can
		
00:43:31 --> 00:43:35
			you can't sell the Quran, but you
can buy one, which was that if
		
00:43:35 --> 00:43:37
			somebody is selling one, he
shouldn't be sending it, but you
		
00:43:37 --> 00:43:41
			would be allowed to buy one. But
don't sell one. So to discourage
		
00:43:41 --> 00:43:45
			selling. Nowadays, you see, for
personal copies, that's
		
00:43:45 --> 00:43:47
			understandable. If you got a
person from me, why would you want
		
00:43:47 --> 00:43:51
			to sell it, you know, just give it
away to someone. But the problem
		
00:43:51 --> 00:43:56
			is that the, you know, the
bookstores, the publishers, they
		
00:43:56 --> 00:43:59
			need to make some money as well
this needs to be a business model
		
00:43:59 --> 00:44:01
			so that they can earn a living
through it. I mean, if they were
		
00:44:01 --> 00:44:04
			producing and sending to the
printers and the printers were
		
00:44:04 --> 00:44:07
			producing, you know, Quranic
copies, and you'd have to just
		
00:44:07 --> 00:44:11
			raise the Lord charity to do this
and just not efficient. So that's
		
00:44:11 --> 00:44:15
			why the Anima have allowed it.
Some other machinery Denethor he
		
00:44:15 --> 00:44:19
			suggests that don't call it
setting still. When you're setting
		
00:44:19 --> 00:44:22
			you know anything else you can
call it selling but when it comes
		
00:44:22 --> 00:44:27
			to you know, trans exchanging
Quran for money, call it a hadiya
		
00:44:27 --> 00:44:30
			I'm giving this to you as a gift,
you're giving the money to me as a
		
00:44:30 --> 00:44:34
			gift. So I just add them and just
at least it sounds like better
		
00:44:34 --> 00:44:38
			it's other it's etiquette. That's
what they said. I think that's a
		
00:44:38 --> 00:44:42
			that's a good opinion. That's why
you will hear that when what is
		
00:44:42 --> 00:44:45
			the Hadiya for this? What is the
give I said it's not a hottie I'm
		
00:44:45 --> 00:44:47
			not giving you an idea of
something, you know, I'm selling
		
00:44:47 --> 00:44:51
			something to you, but what it's
just done other than right, in
		
00:44:51 --> 00:44:56
			terms of etiquette, some to get
around this there are some you
		
00:44:56 --> 00:44:59
			know, people who wanted to you
know, help the community they
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:03
			stablish reading libraries, so
it'd be a central location where
		
00:45:03 --> 00:45:05
			they would put copies of the Quran
there and people will come and
		
00:45:05 --> 00:45:09
			read them from there. Right? So
this is how it is nowadays it's so
		
00:45:09 --> 00:45:13
			easy Subhanallah you know,
there's, maybe I'll tweet this out
		
00:45:13 --> 00:45:16
			again. But when I visited
Uzbekistan, there's one Jami,
		
00:45:16 --> 00:45:22
			there's this Halal bookstore, who,
before the Quran is we're just not
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:25
			allowed to be produced in the
country, you know, for about 30
		
00:45:25 --> 00:45:28
			years or something. And they were
just a few copies that used to be
		
00:45:28 --> 00:45:30
			brought in from outside it was
like some kind of restriction or
		
00:45:30 --> 00:45:33
			something. But since that's been
lifted the last four or five
		
00:45:33 --> 00:45:35
			years, these doddle Hill are
produced Korea, they've got their
		
00:45:35 --> 00:45:39
			own printing press. And I
witnessed the day they there's one
		
00:45:39 --> 00:45:43
			day of the there's one day of the
month or every few months, or one
		
00:45:43 --> 00:45:47
			month, I think, where they
actually give the Quran at a very
		
00:45:47 --> 00:45:52
			cost price, like a few dollars.
And you have to look this on
		
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			online. And I'm not joking, the
police has to be called in to
		
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			manage the crowds of that large
line, a huge crowd of people that
		
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			come to just pick up a Quran
because people don't have them the
		
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			way we do. Today. I can say I've
got I don't know 1015 Maybe 15
		
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			copies of the Quran mass
Alhamdulillah right, it's a
		
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			blessing, it's a blessing. But in
those places, I saw men women and
		
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			others coming in, you know, people
who don't even necessarily look
		
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			religious, but they're coming with
such fervor to just copy and I was
		
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			able to hand a few to them.
absolute honor for me, right?
		
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			These are still in places like
that that have been deprived you
		
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			know, for a while have copies of
the Quran people came you know, so
		
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			far and wide every month they do
this they wouldn't do this for
		
00:46:33 --> 00:46:35
			another book. They might come one
day there's a famous author that
		
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			comes but that's it right? But
here every month they're coming
		
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			because mashallah these people are
trying to help them by giving them
		
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			for a very small price.
		
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			Things have said things have moved
on what all we're going to discuss
		
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			now is a few other before we
finish we just got a few add up a
		
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			few other etiquettes of the Quran
it is most the hub and recommended
		
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			to kiss the Quran. I mean there's
a lot of questions about this. But
		
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			because it's the revered Words of
Allah subhanaw taala it is
		
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			recommended to kiss it and there's
nothing wrong in doing that there
		
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			are them I've mentioned that
there's also a good idea and
		
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			preferable to perfume the Quran
now how do you perfume the ground
		
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			don't get like a bottle of it and
like just pour it over then mess
		
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			it up. There's ways of doing that
Alhamdulillah white thread and
		
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			Tara were working to wrath has
worked on this beautiful elegant
		
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			copy of the translation of Mufti
Turkey sub of the Quran, right
		
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			which has been published you can
get it on white thread press as
		
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			well. However, white thread and
tourist together are producing a
		
00:47:40 --> 00:47:40
			new
		
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			edition of the the Asian
subcontinent style 13th and 15th
		
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			line Quran but written in the
medina script. So it's a really
		
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			beautiful script or Samantha has
script right which you will see in
		
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			the medina but written in the way
that the Asians are generally used
		
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			to reading it. Make dua Inshallah,
that it's nearly completed work
		
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			make dua that it gets completed
quickly after Ramadan some time,
		
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			but inshallah we hope, we hope we
hope to also produce a perfumed
		
00:48:09 --> 00:48:13
			copy in sha Allah, there are
techniques out there to have
		
00:48:13 --> 00:48:16
			perfumed books so when you have
them and you open them there's a
		
00:48:16 --> 00:48:19
			there's there's mashallah there's
a fragrance that comes out of it.
		
00:48:19 --> 00:48:22
			We hope to be able to serve the
Quran Shala like that with your do
		
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			ours as well.
		
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			It is it the Quran should be kept
in a high place, it should not be
		
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			kept on the ground next to you.
Sometimes there's some places in
		
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			the world where they don't, for
some reason, they don't consider
		
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			it significant. Right? So you go
you see this when you're going
		
00:48:40 --> 00:48:43
			sitting in Missy, the number we or
Masjidul haram, that there's
		
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			people will just leave the most
half lying on the ground next to
		
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			them, right? That's actually very,
very disrespectful. This is not
		
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			just any book. In fact, I probably
would not even leave an Islamic
		
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			book on the ground just like that.
Right? I would always put it up,
		
00:48:58 --> 00:49:01
			right even though it's not
necessary. I mean, never a hadith
		
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			book on the ground either. But
even a general book discussing,
		
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			you know, I would not leave it on
the ground. It's not respect. This
		
00:49:07 --> 00:49:11
			is where we walk. Right? So I
wouldn't do that the Quran for
		
00:49:11 --> 00:49:14
			sure. Never. That's why many of
the alumni mentioned this that you
		
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			should keep it up Hi, any angel
who I'll kursi angel who will, you
		
00:49:19 --> 00:49:23
			know, put it on, put it on a
platform of some sort. It would be
		
00:49:23 --> 00:49:25
			completely wrong to make it your
pillow.
		
00:49:26 --> 00:49:28
			Right? Unless the thing is
somebody's gonna steal it from you
		
00:49:28 --> 00:49:31
			at night then you sleep next to it
like that, but you can't make a
		
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			pillow out of it because that's
disrespect of the Quran. Right?
		
00:49:35 --> 00:49:38
			Likewise, Allah ma also Sheikh
Nordin iter has mentioned in his
		
00:49:38 --> 00:49:41
			book as well that it's mcru Ryan,
many of you will know this, but
		
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			it's some people they just think
it's just going over the top two
		
00:49:45 --> 00:49:48
			acts to stretch your legs out
towards the Quran.
		
00:49:49 --> 00:49:52
			Right we never do that in our
homes and you know, we never do
		
00:49:52 --> 00:49:56
			that. Hamdulillah you know, to
stretch the legs out to the Quran.
		
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			This is disrespectful. And the
more we respect the Quran, the
		
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			better. There is
		
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			It's also nice to have. Some
scholars have recommended that you
		
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			brush your teeth before you read
the Quran, do a sea work, brush
		
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			your teeth before you read the
Quran?
		
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			And
		
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			what about if some, if you've got
an old copy a torn copy a worn out
		
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			copy or pieces that have come off.
For example, some, you know,
		
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			children, they start off with the
AMA, the juicer AMA, and sometimes
		
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			they really mess it up. And then
it's all tatty, and, and scattered
		
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			all over the place would you do
with that? So some say that the
		
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			best way to do it is to try to
with some kind of water or
		
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			whatever, erase the ink. Now
nowadays, the ink is not going to
		
00:50:35 --> 00:50:38
			erase with water, you might need
some chemicals for that. But
		
00:50:38 --> 00:50:42
			that's one way and then to burn
them. Right after you've erased
		
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			the ink and the wording, then you
burn them. Okay. This is according
		
00:50:46 --> 00:50:48
			to some opinion, the Hanafi is
they look at it differently. They
		
00:50:48 --> 00:50:51
			say that you should bury them
somewhere. Right. And that's why
		
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			in Pakistan, in some cases, they
actually put them into caves, they
		
00:50:55 --> 00:50:57
			stack them into caves, right?
They're never going to be used.
		
00:50:57 --> 00:50:59
			They say that otherwise you bury
them somewhere where people aren't
		
00:50:59 --> 00:51:03
			going to walk. That's why some
cemeteries here, except Islamic
		
00:51:03 --> 00:51:06
			literature like that which they
put into these pits in the ground.
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:12
			They generally disregard
discourage bear burning, because
		
00:51:12 --> 00:51:15
			like burning the words of ALLAH,
unless you're able to remove the
		
00:51:15 --> 00:51:18
			lettering first, okay, if you
remove the lettering, you could
		
00:51:18 --> 00:51:21
			probably even recycle the paper to
be honest, right for use for a
		
00:51:21 --> 00:51:25
			good use. If you can't find any
other way. Other suggestions are
		
00:51:25 --> 00:51:30
			that you put something heavy with
it, and you drown them. But you
		
00:51:30 --> 00:51:33
			you're not going to do that in the
River Thames here. Right? That's
		
00:51:33 --> 00:51:35
			going to be very disrespectful,
right? Because they eventually
		
00:51:35 --> 00:51:37
			bring them up. Right and there
were some people who've done that
		
00:51:37 --> 00:51:40
			and they brought out all these
neurons and that and that and I
		
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			probably is probably illegal as
well to do that. Yeah.
		
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			And the last point the most
important point I know most people
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:50
			know this but there's some people
who still doubt this. The Quran
		
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			should not be touched right
without wudu right without wudu
		
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			very important. And this is based
on a hadith lie Mr. Su Limassol
		
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			Quran Illa Taha, which is I've
we've mentioned it before it's
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:09
			transmitted by Imam Malik in his
motto and others that only the
		
00:52:09 --> 00:52:12
			pure person should touch the
Quran. So, there you go, that
		
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			gives us some understanding of
that inshallah.
		
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			In the next few days, we have
Inshallah, the really interesting
		
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			topic of agile Quran, the
inevitability of the Quran, how is
		
00:52:22 --> 00:52:25
			this Quran a miracle, right? So
inshallah we're going to be
		
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			covering that in some of the
subsequent days. Just ask Allah
		
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			Allah bless you all as Salaam
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