Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Mufti Saeed Ahmed Palanpuri An Obituary

Learn Rahmanir Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa salatu

salam ala CB mursaleen, while he or sapi as you are in my bad

around the whole time in England last night, which was just early

morning time in India, we receive the news of the passing of one of

the most prominent and

very academic scholars of the Indian subcontinent. He was at his

passing, he was the teacher and the Sheikh of Sahil Buhari in

DeLong, the Obon, which is the greatest seminary and the largest

Seminary in the Indian subcontinent, and Subhan, Allah, I

just want to just discuss a few things about him just so that

since he just passed away, I mean, he's passed away 25th of Ramadan,

according to India, time, according to India, dates of

Ramadan. So that's already mashallah very honorable to start

with. But when a person dies, there's always the more we can do

for them, the better. So, the idea is that you understand who this

person is, and of course, the loss. Because whenever you have a

person of great knowledge and so on, right, depart this world, that

means the deprivation because the question that arises that is there

going to be somebody else to

to fill their place, right? Everybody's going to die, so we

understand that everybody's going to die. So one thing is like,

okay, he's old, now he's going to die, he did die to old age. But at

the end of the day, this is definitely a deprivation for a lot

of people because of the amount of inspiration that he had provided.

I mean, me personally speaking, I would say that kind of known about

him for at least 30 years. The reason for that is

the masjid I later became Imam at he used to actually come there for

many, many Ramadan, he came there for many Ramadan from India, he

would come for the whole Ramadan. And lots of people would go from

various different come from various different place, places to

come and listen to his lectures.

So I didn't obviously understand much at that time, and he knew

about him, and he was a great scholar, whatever, I didn't really

get to sit with him much until obviously much later. So just a

few things about him. I mean, he's, he's originally from the

north northern part of Gujarat, kind of more further north from a

lot of the majorities in the UK, or in the West, in general, from

place called pollen pool. That's where he's from, as far as I know,

from a religious family. And then he studied locally first, and then

in other places. And then eventually, he became a teacher at

one of the famous seminaries of Goodra.

In run there, and I think he taught there for about 10 years

now, during that time, I think he is a man of I mean, he's, he's a

man of

huge strengths, academic strengths, right? He's not scared

of anything, he's takes everything by the neck and meet, you know, he

tries to deal with complicated matters. So that must have been

noticeable and quite clear from a young age from the time he was

teaching. So I remember him telling us I think it was either

last year or the year before that

he was actually invited to teach at Nadal or da, right. And that in

itself is a big thing. Because you have to remember both Nadella and

some of the biggest mothers as Nadeau and download Dubai and sun

and pour the oil in up semi in Eastern European semi in western

up and the UPS. I mean, they consider themselves to be kind of

the holders of the knowledge holders of the whole academic

aspect, because that's where the big mothers are. That's where the

whole freedom fighting, you know, most of the great acaba came from

so that's understandable, you know, hygiene doddle. Qasim nano

twee Rashid Ahmed can go he and kalila Hamid Salam booty Rahima

home, Allahu taala, all of them, they all came from, you know,

within several miles to one another, mostly from that side.

And then you had another one the other side with shut Ahmed Shaheed

and a lot of others. So there's a huge history down there. right not

to say there isn't history in other parts of the country,

there's a huge history, but in terms of the more recent academic

excellence, it's there, right? So

for him to be invited, that's already a big thing. But he didn't

go there was several reasons he said he didn't go and then after

that, he he was invited by I think it was monument zoo nominee, to I

think it was shakable has anyone who invited him to another event

for monarch and do not mind he actually made mashallah with him.

And then he went to download the Obinze. Now for a Gujrati for

Gujrati to be

accepted in Dar Salam duben. Right, is not that easy, and

especially in those days, it's not that easy. The reason is that up

had many of the students and up had students from all over the

place, I mean, these mothers has had students from Bengal, Bihar,

Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, and all these other various different states.

And they had I would say that maybe some people would argue that

maybe it had a bit of a superiority

complex because of being the guidance of the dean in the area,

so many people would not stand a chance down there. Obviously, many

people have broke have gone through the so called ceiling and

become very prominent teachers. They're both from Bihar and other

places as well. Now for a Gujarati I mean, Gujarati is a respected

because they generally have the money and they do a lot of the

donation, right in India. So they're generally respected

anyway. So they're not looked down upon entirely like that by anybody

anyway. Right. But for them from an academic perspective to for

somebody to excel like that. Montana, move the service, move

the sidebar, and where he gets

a position there. Now, he's got a huge challenge. And I remember

once he told us, I think, again, this was, I think, one or two,

this was a few years ago, he mentioned this, he said that when

he first went to Durban, for him to establish himself as somebody

serious and somebody to, you know, that they to take take seriously

and not just like, a guy from another state, right, who somehow

got a job here. To prove his point. He said, he started working

on a very complicated book. Right. And it's, it's by one of the

biggest philosophers, called Maulana Qasim, Nan is also

actually the founder, one of the founding members of Darwin, duben,

right. He's a very intellectual, right, huge philosopher, really

complicated some of his work. So it is called RB Hyatts. And all

discussion is about the life of the Prophet sallahu, some in the

grave or lives of prophets in the grave. It's a very complicated

book, the way he explains it using the examples and the parallels and

resemblance and the metaphors and things like that. So it's

something which many people fail, you know, would find it quite a

task to read through and understand comprehend. So most

people don't really said that he started working on either a

commentary or translation or something like that. He says, I

did that Ria and I still remember his words. He said, I did that Ria

and right I did that, just to show people that I'm serious, right,

that they try to take me seriously. But you know what, he

didn't have to worry too much. Because I remember the first time

I visited Darwin, Durban was, I think in 1992, right, I'd gone to

study one year. In that case, we're in Gujarat and I took a trip

to download Durban. And I remember after discussing with the students

there, they basically said that the lesson that everybody attends,

because remember, dollar day, when has 1000s of students. Now it's

got even more than it had in that those days. It's like a university

setting where there's no register for class as in smaller seminaries

we have registered, so you have you better be in class, whereas

you get in trouble there. If you want to study you study, right?

Yes. If you do certain things wrong, they have certain

disciplinary measures. But otherwise, there's no force,

there's nobody's gonna force you to come into class. Right?

Generally, at least in the top left, because there's, I think at

that time, it was several 100 people, a few 100 People in Dota,

two Hadith in the in the Buhari class, right, in the last year,

the graduation year. Now, I think there's a few 1000. So I still

remember the class that would be full to the brim, everybody would

attend, just because they wanted to was the lesson of sunnah

telemovie, which is what most dependable he taught for many,

many years. So in that class, everybody will attend many of the

other classes, sometimes, you know, there will be missing

students, but that one, everybody attended. Why? Why did they attend

his classes? What's going on? What is it about this man, I've

observed them quite closely, because I've had quite a few

Alhamdulillah been on the turf quite a few times. And he had, he

had a bit of a liking for me, I would say Alhamdulillah. Right,

especially later on, and so on. He's told me off as well. I

remember once he told me of I went from a several years after that

first incident, I was in San Antonio, and this was in 1999. And

I went from Santa boo to visit him. And I was told that by his by

his son that you could, you know, you could go go go and try to see

him. But he told me off. Why do you come at a time when, you know,

can you not see that same and I hadn't seen the sign? Right? So I

do get a bit upset and everything like that, but hamdulillah all of

that, you know, just you can't it? This is a huge individual. This is

a huge individual. And it was right that I had gone at a time

when it was not visitation time. And anybody who's productive has

times. So thereafter that whenever he would come in England, I would

meet him whenever I would go to the fixed seminar, and he would

attend and you know, my show leader is give me some time.

hamdulillah so what was about him is that it was very bold, very

intellectual, and he did not shy away from difficult tasks and

difficult topics, he will literally go off the difficulty.

That's why one very complex work that we have, right is the Hoja

Tula Hill Bhairava. Right, which is basically the book by Shaohua.

Lulu are one of the spiritual and academic forefathers of the

education and the scholarship of the Indian subcontinent. So he's

written a several volume commentary of in English we

actually covering this book right now with a small group of Allah

ma. And you know his mashallah his edition is probably the best

audition out there though. Is that audition a very good because it's

a very complicated book to start with. And he mashallah he's gone

very far, to basically unraveling it explaining its difficulties and

so on. He's gotten

numerous books to his name's got serious to his name, Hadith

commentaries, other small things written books on Mantic is written

books on hikma on philosophy, right, you know, to dumb it down

for students. So what is the secret? Why would students attend

his class? Right? And why would so many, so those were scholars,

right? And in England when he would come, there'll be so many

people that would attend his classes, this would be both Alama

and none are Allama. None scholars. Why? Because he would,

and this is one of my greatest admiration for him, he would take

the most complicated topic, dumbing it down, right, in a way

that was palatable, comprehensible for the layman. And he would

explain it, he would not be frightened about that. Lots of

others, they don't deal with sensitive topics, he would deal

with centering Yes, sometimes he did cause controversy by that he

he would deal with numerous topics, especially against the the

art and so on. Sometimes he was, you know, very vocal about these

things. And, you know, it could ruffle feathers with some of these

things. But mashallah, the amount of contribution that he has

provided where he takes the most even I remember once I sat in

Buhari does have his just a few years ago, right? And it's very

simple Deus he didn't the complicated stuff, he would just

make easy, right? He just had his style, you know, he had a style of

what you would call

very huge clarity of mind, very clear thought process,

able to distinguish things, categorize things, he had a huge,

beautiful taxonomy, you'd, you know, really understand typology

very well how to separate things out and say, Okay, this fits here,

you would be able to just unravel things and take them into their

component. They break them down into the components and then

explain like that way to make it very easy to understand. I think

that's why that's one of the reasons why the Scholars, the

scholars, and the students would really love him.

So Alhamdulillah I think the last time that I met him once was in

the last year this year, unfortunately, the program was

cancelled a fixed seminar, so I wasn't able to see him this year.

But the one before that, I met him and then after that in last

Ramadan, in mercy Koba in Stamford Hill, so before I left Australia,

I went to visit him and Hamdulillah he had just completed

with somebody else working on again, biannual Quran of

Hakimullah at Monash every time he is supposed to be an amazing WCF

is short, relatively short, like shorter than my evil Quran, etc,

full of

just amazing subtleties, from various different subjects whereby

the soul and Quranic difficile anecdotes and things like that.

Not very easy to read in some cases.

So with somebody else mana, Mufti Sayeed has just released the first

volume last year and if a subsequent volume has come out, so

he gifted me the first volume of Assan, biannual Quran, where he's

kind of the language is made it easier for people to be able to

benefit from the wisdoms of hacky Mahna Mahna Mahna Shawneetown. Me.

So as I said, he would take complicated matters, and you will

deal with them. And there's not too many elements that too many

odema that do that. And I think that's probably where he was in

terms. I remember once in Ramadan, I said to him, can I study a book

by you because this is wonderful. Obviously, I was on your mind and

that message at that time? So he says, No, he says, the Ramadan is

the time for the Quran. And he says, I'm Kecia Hafiz, which

basically means that mirror you know, my, my memory, my

memorization of the Quran is not very strong. So I have to do a lot

of effort for it in Ramadan. Right?

So that's why No, I'm not going to teach you I'm just going to do

this. And we can have images you can ask me any question you want.

He loved questions. He loves to sit and discuss things. So I think

it was generally after the hearing and there was Masha lots of local

minima that would benefit from him like that. Lots of other people

that would benefit from him like that. So a lot of wonderful

anecdotes, because his reading was quite far his understanding of the

man hedge and just basically where things were going was was quite

good as well. So we ask Allah subhanaw taala to reward him

immensely, and inshallah he's left behind a lot of students, right,

all the graduates the 1000s 1000s of graduates who loved them, you

know, every year that would graduate from there and then the

people that he infused around the world with with inspiration, and

all the books that he's left behind, mashallah definitely

somebody who's going to go down into history, somebody who lots of

biographies are going to be written about and just please pray

for him and for his family, and play a pray that we can also

follow in the wonderful work and the footsteps, the wonderful

footsteps that he led and Masha Allah did death in Ramadan as well

as a wonderful thing. So may Allah subhanahu X accept him and excel

Him and raise this status in the hereafter as well. With that one

and then hamdulillahi rabbil aalameen