Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – LESSONS FROM THE LIFE OF IMAM ABU HANIFA

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The transcript discusses the life and culture of a famous Muslim man named Al Qaeda, including his history with social and political impacts, a rise in fame, and successful merchant practices. The discussion also touches on the use of opinion and proficiency in discussions, as well as the historical and cultural significance of the Hadith movement. The transcript provides examples of practical advice and insight for individuals to use when discussing certain topics.

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			Bismillah R Rahman Rahim
Alhamdulillah
		
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			Alhamdulillah here on behalf
Alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala I
		
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			didn't look earthy Ramadan lil I
mean, what other early he was sabe
		
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			odaka was a limited Sleeman
cathedral
		
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			Illa Yomi. Dean, a mother
		
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			Mother respected brothers and
sisters. Now we're under Ma.
		
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			This program today it's been
convened
		
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			to discuss the life of Imam
Altham. The greatest Imam.
		
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			We don't say this term the
greatest Imam just as a rhetoric.
		
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			It's not a rhetoric that's
actually the title that's been
		
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			bestowed upon him by
		
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			many of the scholars of the past.
And that's what he's been so
		
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			famously known by that title, that
area in Baghdad today where his
		
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			tomb is and where he was buried,
it's called out of the media. So
		
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			out of the media is actually
		
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			attributed to Imam out of home. So
have a means the greatest. So this
		
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			entire area is now called out of
Armenia, which is this area of
		
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			Baghdad, just like you have other
areas of Baghdad like and other
		
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			areas, like in Istanbul, you have
the UB area, because about a year
		
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			but on Saudi on the Allahu Anhu is
buried there. So that's what shows
		
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			that when an area can be renamed
by a person, then that shows their
		
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			greatness and that shows their
acceptance to a certain degree as
		
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			well.
		
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			Now, this man was a very
interesting, extremely interesting
		
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			individual. And we could probably
speak all day about him. Today I
		
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			have prepared, I haven't really
prepared any kind of systematic
		
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			discussion or some kind of
academic essay on him, I'm really
		
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			going to be speaking at random
about things that just stand out
		
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			to me and that are very
inspirational for me from his
		
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			life, and hopefully inshallah we
can benefit. We have a very short
		
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			amount of time. But in that time,
what I want to mention is that
		
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			the way he starts off his
obviously as a merchant, and not
		
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			as a scholar, but while he is a
merchant, it appears that he
		
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			gained so much knowledge just by
discussing with people. He's a
		
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			merchant in Kufa
		
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			and Kufa is a garrison town that
was established by the Muslims.
		
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			Kufa and Basra were two towns that
were established by the during the
		
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			time where a lot of the Allahu
Anhu for the Sahaba that had come
		
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			over from Madina Munawwara and
wanted to settle in Iraq after it
		
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			had been after they come under the
Islamic Islamic rule. So Kufa was
		
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			a bustling place today, it doesn't
seem like it's got the same bustle
		
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			and hustle. But in that day, that
was an extremely cosmopolitan
		
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			society and you can imagine a
place like London Basara was
		
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			probably a bit more like
Birmingham. Right? Some people
		
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			will understand what I mean. But
Kufa was Kufa had its issues Kufa
		
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			had its issues as well. In fact,
according to some people, they
		
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			consider Kufa Hello Shirataki when
the fuck right that the people
		
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			have disputes, because they there
was a problem earlier on when it
		
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			Radi Allahu Anhu. In fact, once
somebody said that to Abu Hanifa,
		
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			that that's the area he comes
from, and he was in Madina
		
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			Munawwara so he responded when we
had in Medina de Mara Diwan, and
		
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			he felt that from the people of
Medina, there are certain people
		
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			who,
		
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			you know, who are very strong and
hypocrisy. So, the thing about the
		
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			Mongol Hanifa is that during this
time as a merchant, it seems like
		
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			he picked up a lot of knowledge
just by discussing with people
		
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			because somebody comes to your
shop and you're selling cloth in a
		
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			cloth is something you show people
you discuss with them. And if
		
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			you're a person of interest in
your person who's interested in
		
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			discussion, in conversation,
you're going to be speaking to
		
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			these people. So he seems to have
become a great theologian first,
		
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			in the sense that he'd mastered
theology, he went to Basra over 20
		
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			times to go and debate with the
SEC terrariums. Anyway, that's a
		
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			long history. I want to move on
beyond that. What are the few
		
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			things that I find with him is
that when he finally turned to
		
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			studying the knowledge formally,
and he sat at the feet of hammered
		
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			and he began to study Fick, that's
he excelled in that Imam Abu
		
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			Hanifa was a natural genius.
That's what I would say. He was an
		
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			absolutely natural genius.
Whatever he picked up, he excelled
		
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			up extremely proficient, extremely
proficient. We're just really
		
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			happy to have
		
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			Come on outside. Let's put it that
way. Right. So, what happens is he
		
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			studies flipped and he musters it.
His teacher eventually passes
		
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			away. He takes his place he starts
teaching. This young this young
		
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			person comes along and begins to
study by him. After a few days
		
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			that young man disappears.
		
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			He disappears. Imam Abu Hanifa
Rahim Allah had seen a spark of
		
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			interest in this young individual.
He goes and inquires about him,
		
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			Where is he gone? Apparently, this
young individual was somebody from
		
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			a very poor background, it fought
his father had pulled him out of
		
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			the mother's out of the studies
after some days or whatever,
		
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			because he needed to earn a living
for him. So he put him to work
		
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			young, young person. So in Abu
Hanifa, discovered this, so he
		
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			said, you know, he went to his
father, he said, I'll pay for
		
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			whatever he is going to earn in a
day, I'll pay you that much. You
		
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			just let him study with me in Abu
Hanifa did not close his business
		
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			when he carried on when he when he
turned to formal study, he did not
		
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			close his business, he had
somebody else look after it, he
		
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			had somebody else take care of it,
you know, he had employees to look
		
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			after the business. So he
continued that he was extremely
		
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			generous of nature, you can
understand from this, that because
		
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			he wanted this particular student
who'd he'd seen a, you know, a
		
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			genius in, he wanted him to study
this was none other than Imam Abu
		
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			use of the second great Imam that
we have among our founding Imams.
		
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			He actually paid for his study. He
paid for his study to study with
		
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			him. So he took him away from his
father. They said he will study
		
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			with me, I'll pay you Subhanallah
and I wouldn't mind you know, if
		
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			somebody did that for me, you
know, gone study and they'll pay
		
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			my father will pay me I don't mind
Bismillah SubhanAllah. Anyway,
		
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			today today to actually do that
post PhD. Post, would you call it
		
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			a post doctoral research, they pay
you to sit and read and right?
		
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			Unfortunately, Muslims don't do
that. Unfortunately, we don't have
		
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			that heritage anymore. Right where
we can take our students and spend
		
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			money to develop them further. You
know, subhanAllah the universities
		
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			do that today. May Allah subhanaw
taala give us that trophy. So now
		
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			he because he is teaching fifth he
spends huge amounts of money on
		
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			the profits he makes from his
business he spends it on earlier
		
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			mark, Sophia and authority sorry
Sophia Marina used to be his
		
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			contemporary once one of the
students that remarkable Hanifa
		
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			met Sophia Lebanon Marina and
Sophia Marina Rahim Allah he says
		
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			to him, that what's wrong with
your Imam, he gives us so many
		
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			senses, so many gifts, that we're
embarrassed to take it. It's like
		
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			an embarrassment in the sense that
you know, one is you go and give
		
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			somebody a pen as a gift. You
know, better still you go and buy
		
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			somebody, you know, Galaxy Note,
right? I don't like iPhones. So,
		
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			you know, you give somebody a
Galaxy Note or something like
		
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			that. Another one is that you
know, you go and buy him a car.
		
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			That's a bigger gift. But one is
that you give him so much that
		
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			they even embarrassed to take it.
Like man, you're giving me so
		
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			much. How can you do that? It's
just too much. So so if you're in
		
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			an arena went and said that to one
of the students who Abu Hanifa
		
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			Imam Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah, the
students said to him, you're lucky
		
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			you only get damages others will
get even more than you. So he was
		
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			extremely generous, extremely
generous. And what I actually
		
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			wanted to do today, which I don't
think we have the time to do is
		
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			actually wanted to go through his
letter his Wuxia, his special
		
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			advices and his a pistol that he
had written to one of his star
		
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			students of manual but to us from
bizarro, we don't have the time to
		
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			go through him but one of them is
that he tells him You need to
		
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			spend on people, you need to feed
people you need to give them gifts
		
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			you need to you need to look after
them. That's really beneficial for
		
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			an algorithm to to build a build a
connection with the people and he
		
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			says that no person who has
miserliness can ever be a leader.
		
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			Leadership quality is that
generosity goes with it. So
		
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			anybody wants to be a leader or
assume any kind of leadership role
		
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			generosity has to be part of your
trait. Otherwise you can't and you
		
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			might want even showed us that in
practice himself.
		
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			Now, the other thing randomly that
I just want to mention in that
		
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			regard is when Imam Abu Hanifa he
used to go often to the Haramain
		
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			he used to go to the holy
centuries often and on one of
		
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			those occasions he met with Imam
Malik Rahim Allah Imam Malik was
		
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			this contemporary Imam Shafi was
interestingly born in the year
		
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			that Imam Abu Hanifa passed away
under in 50 Hijiri. That's when
		
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			you are well Hanifa passed away
that's the year Imam Shafi was
		
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			born right one great Imam
replacing another SRG but Imam
		
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			Malik Rahim Allah was his
contemporary. So on one occasion
		
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			they went he went to visit him and
after he left somebody asked him
		
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			Amharic, that what do you think of
this email? What do you think of
		
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			EMO Hanifa he says Wallah here are
eight origin and lo que la Mojave
		
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			Surya de the Herban la cama be her
Jetty he says that I've seen such
		
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			a man that if he said this pillar
is made of gold, he'd probably be
		
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			able to, to establish evidence and
prove that it is. That's how quick
		
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			of mind that's how shrewd he was.
That's how how his Intel
		
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			It was so profound, he was an
absolute genius. There's no doubt
		
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			about him. One of the points I
want to make in that regard is
		
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			that this whole discussion about
the Hanafi is being far from
		
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			Hadith. This is not the time to go
into it in detail, but just some
		
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			of the points that I've picked up
because recently I taught a course
		
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			on HANA fees and Hadith, how the
HANA fees and Hadith scholarship
		
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			will suit will Hadith theory, you
know, Hadith theory that's what I
		
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			that's what I thought what I
understood from there is that
		
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			let's take a few examples. You
have Imam Mohammed a che Bernie
		
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			Imam Muhammad a che Bernie has
been considered to be one of the
		
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			youngest and brightest people that
studied with him Abu Hanifa he was
		
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			very young when he studied with
him, you probably studied with him
		
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			in his teams in his late teens
before him Abu Hanifa passed away
		
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			he had actually come to us a
masala he had had a * the
		
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			night before. And he came to ask
an issue that does he have to pray
		
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			isha prayer or not if he had a wet
dream, and then when he got the
		
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			response, he went to the site and
he prayed. He went and he prayed
		
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			as he prayed is called our prayer.
Then he came in, he sat in the
		
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			machinists, and then he became a
student of Hanifa. And he is the
		
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			one who is now responsible for
transmitting the Hanafi school the
		
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			authentic narrations of the Hanafi
school called the Dahiru rewire
		
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			the six famous books and then
beyond that, the newer that etc.
		
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			So now, when you when you look at
a person like Imam Abu Yusuf,
		
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			sorry, Imam, Imam Mohammed a che
Bernie, he studies at a very young
		
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			age with remarkable Hanifa. Then
he goes to after Imam Abu Hanifa
		
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			as death, he goes to Madina,
Munawwara he studies under none
		
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			other than Imam Malik. And he
studies within not just for a few
		
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			days, he studies with him in a way
that he's able to relate them
		
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			water. So he has his own recension
of the motto from Imam Malik
		
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			called the water of Imam Muhammad.
You know, it's a bit different
		
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			from the why it's much of it is
the same, but there's some
		
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			difference where he's taken some
durations is is omitted others and
		
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			so on and so forth. But what's
most interesting is he comes back,
		
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			and he does not lose his faith in
the Hanafi school.
		
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			Generally speaking, when you've
had one teacher, then you go to
		
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			another profound teacher, there's
an impact, there's no doubt
		
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			there's an impact on that, right
of that second teacher on you. But
		
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			here you have that he is so
faithful to his Imam, that he
		
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			actually considers himself the
Hanafi and so on. And he continues
		
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			to teach that interview school and
relate from his teacher. Yes, he's
		
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			got the one book for me my Malik
Rahim Allah, but the majority of
		
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			his fitment is Messiah are related
from Abu Hanifa. That goes to show
		
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			that he must have seen something
quite amazing in Abu Hanifa Rahim
		
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			Allah that did that he did not
want to leave and abandon. He
		
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			found that to be more profound
than anything else. Number two,
		
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			let's take another example. These
are again random examples from
		
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			history. Another one is himanta
Javi. I mean, you know, he's a man
		
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			again of great learning. Great,
		
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			great proficiency again, he's a
chef he starts with the chef he
		
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			his mother's a Shafi scholar, his
uncle's a chef is called a
		
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			Mussolini, who is an imam Shafi
his right hand man, you aren't
		
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			sure wasn't he is the one who says
that people have not really
		
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			understood the the position of
Imam Shafi and his real status.
		
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			Imam Shafi was very, very young
when he passed away, but within
		
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			that time, he was able to acquire
so much Musa and he said that
		
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			people have not really understood
the status of Imam Shafi they
		
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			could not have because they did
not have the level of intellect to
		
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			understand the higher level of
intellect that Imam Shafi had,
		
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			they just knew him to be a great
scholar. When you see about 10
		
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			scholars you say mashallah,
they're all great scholars, but
		
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			only the scholars will know who's
really a great scholar Subhanallah
		
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			because it's only a doctor that
will know who's a good doctor for
		
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			us. They all doctors, they've got
a medical certificate on their
		
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			wall. Right, and we'll go to them.
So that's Mr. muslin. He said that
		
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			now, when you have somebody like
him, and then you, you have
		
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			Moosonee, you have the mother of
Imam, Imam, Imam, the Howey, who's
		
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			a Sharpie jurist, but then he
himself turns to the Hanafi school
		
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			and becomes such a staunch Hanafy
what does that tell you? You know,
		
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			you hardly see conversions from
the Hanafi stew elsewhere, you
		
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			hardly see it. It's a possibility
and they may have occurred Walla,
		
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			Harlem, but generally what you see
is so many people converting to
		
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			the Hanafi school. Right? There is
another example that I'd like to
		
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			give a very profound example, one
of the first and the founding Zulu
		
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			Hadith books of the Hanafi school
from which the likes of just sauce
		
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			busily Sarasi and all the later
all the latest scholars have taken
		
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			from the Boosey et cetera have
taken from is that is the book of
		
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			Isa ignore a burn Rahim Allah isa
ignore a ban is a student of is a
		
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			student of Imam, Imam Muhammad as
well. And Isa if not above, we
		
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			first did not want was not
interested in the Hanafi school.
		
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			He used to think that they go
against the Hadith. It's a common
		
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			common thing they go against
Hadith so
		
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			On one occasion Mohamed El Nino
summer. Muhammad Musa Omar was a
		
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			was another student of Imam Abu
Hanifa. He wants took him to sit
		
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			in the dark and he would
constantly refuse to go but one
		
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			day he sat with Imam Muhammad. And
after after the dose was over a
		
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			Muhammad Yunus Allah says that
this is our friend who reckons
		
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			that, you know, we go against
Hadith. So he says, okay, ask you
		
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			a question, what what question do
you have? So he came with a number
		
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			of questions. And the response he
got was so sufficient for him,
		
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			that from that day, he left
everything else and went and
		
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			started to study with, with the
Imam that was just quite amazing.
		
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			Now what you understand is
somebody who's opposing him, he's
		
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			he's come with his come with this
understanding with this
		
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			preconceived baggage that there's
a problem here they don't
		
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			understand. They don't really
follow Hadith, they just follow
		
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			their opinion, their PRs and
analogy is too far fetched. It
		
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			doesn't really relate to the
Hadith and so on. Yet when he
		
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			listens to the responses, he is
convinced, you have another
		
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			another simple example, which many
of you may have heard of aqmesh
		
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			was the Hadith Sulaiman lavish. He
was the he was a teacher of Abu
		
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			Hanifa Rahim Allah in terms of
transmission of Hadith. But then
		
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			when it came to fic, he studied
under him Abu Hanifa, because on
		
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			one occasion, what happened is he
came to him Abu Hanifa. And he
		
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			said to him, he asked him a
particular issue in Abu Hanifa
		
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			gave him a response. He says,
Where did you get that response
		
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			from? Where did you infer that
ruling from How did you
		
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			extrapolate that ruling? That
judgment? Where did you get it
		
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			from? So that immobile Hanifa very
casually, he says, I relate from
		
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			aqmesh, who relates from so and so
from so and so from so and so from
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam,
that he said this, that's when it
		
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			clicked to mush, that the Hadith
that he had related to Imam Abu
		
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			Hanifa was the response and was
the basis for the ruling that he
		
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			was looking for. That's when he
made that famous statement, where
		
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			he said that that we the Hadith
scholars, the Hadith transmitters,
		
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			are merely like pharmacists who
collect medicine, who stock
		
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			medicine, who dispense it based on
the recommendations of a doctor,
		
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			whereas the jurists, the fuqaha,
they are like the physicians, the
		
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			doctors that are able to
understand the issue, and to
		
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			extrapolate and to infer a ruling
and provide that ruling. That's
		
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			when he realized that's when he
realized that and he studied under
		
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			him Abu Hanifa, like that. So what
makes it that these people become
		
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			convinced after after being
opposed, they become convinced
		
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			that's that's the amazing part. So
after reading all of that, I
		
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			really, really thought about this
for a while. And what I realized,
		
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			what I realized was that the
reason why you had the opposition
		
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			in the beginning, and then the
conversion afterwards had to be
		
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			for one reason. Now listen to this
carefully. The mindset of the
		
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			founding Imams, the way Imam Abu
Hanifa through his great
		
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			intellectual acumen, and what he
had developed within Imams who use
		
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			of Imam Mohammed, Imam Zuko and
all the other Yeah, he's not a
		
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			visa either. And all the other
great scholars that he had around
		
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			him was this penetrating insights
on taking a hadith and actualizing
		
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			it on operationalizing it on
applying it to the situation, that
		
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			has been always the context of the
Hanafi school. That's always been
		
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			the drive of the Hanafi school,
that what they do is they take the
		
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			Hadith and it's not just about
preservation of the Hadith. That's
		
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			the difference. If you look at the
books of also like for example, if
		
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			you look at the whatever is
retained of the sola, sola hadith
		
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			of, of Isa ESA, if not a ban Rahim
Allah that's been retained
		
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			retained in the books of Imam just
sauce Arrazi. And Buster, we in
		
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			surrogacy, what you will notice is
that all of the Kosovo Hadith
		
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			rules, they all based on trying to
operationalize the Hadith. How do
		
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			we take this narration, this
hadith and apply it to this
		
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			situation? They're not bothered
about just preservation. They want
		
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			to preserve it through action.
That's the difference. So it's a
		
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			very practical school, the Hanafi
school has been considered to be
		
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			the most practical schools. That's
why it's been it's been the
		
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			mothers of the Abbasids. They
prefer the copies of the different
		
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			areas to be Hanafis. Whenever a
call the would come up a certain
		
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			mother. That's how the mother
would then that's when the mother
		
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			would then spread in the area. Let
me just die. Let me let me just
		
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			digress. Let me just digress
slightly, it when are we talking
		
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			about Basara during the time of
remarkable Hanifa, the teachings
		
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			of the Abu Hanifa had not reached
Basara. Yes, he'd gone there to
		
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			debate on a theological level. But
when you talk about jurisprudence,
		
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			the bathrooms, they had other
Imams that they follow, they had
		
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			other jurisprudence that they
followed. When this birth manual,
		
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			Betty finished studying with him
Abu Hanifa and he wanted to go
		
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			back to busser his hometown in Abu
Hanifa told him Let me give you a
		
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			few advices among that advices
that what I don't want you
		
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			Want to do is I don't want you to
go there and start teaching and
		
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			saying called Abu Hanifa Ganga
called Abu Hanifa. Gather that,
		
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			you know, Abu Hanifa said this and
I don't want you to go and start
		
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			spreading my mother like that
people will will take you out of
		
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			the Masjid. They'll chase you out.
But when ISA is not about actually
		
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			went to Bassam, he did not listen
to this advice. He had a lot of
		
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			zeal, he wanted to teach what he
had learned. So immediately, he
		
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			started teaching St. Cod, Abu
Hanifa haka, called Abu Hanifa
		
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			together, and so on. And they
chased him out of domestic because
		
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			he was coming with something kind
of foreign to them. Remember,
		
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			that's the time of the development
of the schools, development of
		
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			juristic learning. So they had
their own Imams they were they
		
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			were great scholars in, in
Barcelona as well, however, very
		
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			different to that. Imam Zoofari,
Abu Hussain, who is much older,
		
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			and he was also shooting Abu
Hanifa, from Barcelona. He was
		
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			also one of the Greek families of
buzzer when he finished studying
		
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			and he went to Basava. What he
first did was, he went and sat in
		
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			the other groups of, of
jurisprudence, the other muscle
		
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			groups that the other scholars are
teaching you, it's there, and he
		
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			would listen. And then when it was
time for discussion in those days,
		
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			it wasn't just like one person
teaching and everybody listening,
		
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			he used to be discussion. That was
the method even in mo Hanif has
		
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			mentioned this as well. So when he
when the time came to discussion,
		
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			he would acknowledge their
opinion. In fact, that's exactly
		
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			what he mobile Hanifa told with
mono bhakti that you go and
		
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			listen, if they ask you a
question, you should give them a
		
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			response they used to first then
tell them oh, there's another
		
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			opinion. And this is the Deal of
that opinion. Right? And this
		
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			works very well. When I first
moved to America, I was in a
		
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			community where there were no
Indians, no Pakistanis, and maybe
		
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			one or two Bangladeshis. So hardly
any Hanafis It was mostly Arabs
		
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			from different communities, some
of unease and a lot of converts.
		
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			Now initially, I'm there I just
come out of, you know, studying
		
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			the Torah to Hadith. I actually
had retained a lot of the, you
		
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			know, a lot of what had been
taught there about Imam Shafi his
		
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			opinion, Imam, Imam Malik's
opinion. And I used to give all of
		
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			that because I wanted people to be
able to relate. But later, what I
		
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			discovered discovered is that that
confused people. So what I would
		
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			do is if I would see that there's
somebody from North Africa there,
		
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			I would I was asked a question, I
would give a Maliki response
		
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			without saying it's Maliki. I
would say certain scholars say
		
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			this, but then there's another
opinion, and then I would give the
		
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			Hanafi opinion, and I'd say, and
the reason for it is this. And you
		
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			see, because when somebody's been
following something all their
		
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			life, that's what they've been
following. And you come with a
		
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			totally new opinion, like some of
these people do, and they want to
		
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			change you, right? And they want
no other way, but the highway,
		
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			right? The you're gonna really
confuse them, you will make them
		
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			oppose to you. So this way they
can, you've acknowledged that you
		
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			understand their opinion that
they've been following as the
		
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			Medicare in North African opinion
or whatever. But then you've shown
		
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			them another opinion, and you've
provided evidence for it. And this
		
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			is what I learned from Abu Hanifa.
In practice, this is what I
		
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			learned. So Imams, before he went,
he sat in the majorities, but he
		
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			used to just sit and then he used
to mention that, Oh, there's
		
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			another opinion on this issue. He
never mentioned the name of whose
		
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			opinion it is used to mention, oh,
this is. So there's another
		
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			opinion, it is like this, and this
is the deal for it. After a few
		
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			days, a few months, or whatever it
was, they became really curious,
		
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			where is this person getting all
of these amazing opinions from,
		
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			you know, these amazing
extrapolations and inferences?
		
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			Where's he getting them from? So
when they asked him whose opinion
		
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			is this, then he told him this is
the opinion of Abu Hanifa by this
		
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			time, because people had respect
had grown for those opinions. Now
		
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			they were able to accept this
opinion. That's how the eventually
		
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			in busser, the Hanafi school
spreads through busta Subhanallah
		
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			so this is all about wisdom you
Abu Hanifa one thing if you look
		
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			at his advices he gave all his
practical advices because he dealt
		
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			with people he was really really
practical. On one occasion
		
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			somebody came to him and he said
to him, he was scruffy is the Imam
		
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			Abu Hanifa said to him that you
know after the Darcy says you know
		
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			there's some money under this rug
here go and Ursula cannot go in
		
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			such a situation go and get some
nice clothes and so on. He says
		
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			I've got money is this and why do
you dress like this for why do you
		
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			dress like this for so then you
Mambo Khalifa advised him he says
		
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			that there's no point dressing
like somebody in a way that makes
		
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			people sorry for you, it makes
your friends feel like you know,
		
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			sorry for you that you know, they
need to help you out. So these are
		
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			very practical advices that he
would give.
		
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			Now, Imam Abu Hanifa was not just
the raw jurist, not just a pure
		
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			academic. And you know, in fact,
he was he was so great in his
		
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			worship, right and in his
generosity and in his, in his
		
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			wallet and in his Taqwa that
there's a number of stories that
		
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			are related to that which we don't
have time to go into. I'll just
		
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			mention one story. As you as you
know, he was a cloth merchant. He
		
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			was a cloth merchant. On one
occasion, he told his, one of his
		
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			workers that look, we need to go
and deliver this particular ream
		
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			of cloth to such and such a
person. There's a defect on this
		
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			cloth, you know, used to be hand
woven, so there's a defect in day
		
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			was in the middle somewhere.
Generally when a person takes it
		
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			from there, not necessarily check
every single part of it. Once the
		
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			deal is done, it's done. So he
says, I want you to make sure that
		
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			you inform them that there is a
problem here. Now the worker he
		
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			went on
		
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			He was probably in a hurry or
whatever he forgot. He just
		
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			delivered the cloth took the money
and came back when he Manuel
		
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			Hanifa inquired afterwards, did
you? Did you tell him? He says,
		
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			no, I forgot. So then when they
tried to go and look for that
		
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			person again, they couldn't find
him again. He was maybe some
		
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			travel or something. So now what
did you Abu Hanifa doing? We would
		
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			say, well, that's I tried my best
colors, finish, let's use the
		
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			money. But he donated that entire
amount. Not even like the amount
		
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			of the defect hidden, donated the
entire amount. Right? There's
		
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			numerous stories of this type.
There's numerous stories of this
		
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			type, I will suggest that you
know, you go and read some books
		
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			on it, you'll understand who this
great Imam is you'll you know, you
		
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			really understand who this who
this person is. So going back to
		
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			the point, what I my theory is,
and I think I have some backing in
		
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			this regard, is that the level of
proficiency and insight that the
		
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			Hanafi Imams had in Hadith, and
how they could extrapolate rulings
		
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			that others could not see. This is
what initially led people to say,
		
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			accused them of going just
according to opinion, and not
		
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			according to Hadith, but when the
when the issue was laid clear,
		
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			there is another example Jaffa
sodic. Same thing he says, How can
		
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			you dispute the hadith of my
grandfather, you know, from my
		
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			grandfather, he says how so? He
says, Well, you say this, he says
		
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			no, this is what I do. If if that
was the case, then I would never
		
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			have I would never have said that
you make muscle on the top of your
		
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			feet I would have said you make it
at the bottom because on the
		
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			bottom of your socks because
leather socks because that's what
		
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			gets dirty not the top part but I
go with the narration in this and
		
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			there are so many cases like that.
So when people recognize the depth
		
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			of knowledge and the depth of
inference and profound insight,
		
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			then they recognize okay, but when
they don't do that just
		
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			superficially because they can't
see it. They claim that they they
		
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			allege that these people are
against the Hadith. So when it
		
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			comes to his piety as well. He has
been mentioned for example by
		
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			Allah Maha Rani in his in his taba
Katana Olia in Sabah Katanga
		
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			earlier, he's mentioned him in
there as well. To finish off, what
		
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			I want to mention is that you need
to understand this month. It's a
		
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			very practical method. I know
there's one issue that we suffer
		
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			from, right and I'll be very
honest about it is that Jamal Bina
		
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			Salatin, the combining the press,
that's the toughest issue in the
		
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			Hanafi school, right the other
Imams, they it's very easy for the
		
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			followers or you Gemma, you know
you, you combine the Quran acid
		
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			when you're on a travel on a
journey, when you're traveling or
		
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			Maghrib and Isha and 100 views, we
can't do that, according to the
		
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			superior opinion within the
mother. That's the difficult part.
		
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			But in everything else, we look at
value and everything else. It's
		
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			had the greatest exposure, it's
had exposure in India, it's had
		
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			exposure in the Ottomans for 700
years, it had it's had exposure to
		
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			the Abbasids the majority of our
history has been filled with
		
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			dominated with the Hanafi school.
And today, at least half of the
		
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			Muslims around the world are
Hanafis at least, and they seem to
		
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			be the most closest to their
school in general wherever they
		
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			go, because it's such a practical
school. May Allah subhana wa Tada
		
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			fill the grave of the great Imam
and of all the founding Imams and
		
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			all the mache of all the great
fuqaha of the past until our day
		
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			may Allah subhanho wa Taala fill
their graves in newer May Allah
		
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			reward them abundantly on our
behalf for this great
		
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			extrapolation they've done And
subhanAllah one last thing you
		
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			know, Abu Hanifa was asked after
his death in a dream. He was asked
		
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			that you know what, what what is
it that helped you all your faith,
		
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			etc? He says no, what helped me
was everybody's criticism, and all
		
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			this or everything, all the
extension of their tongue and the
		
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			bad things that they said about
me. That is what really helped me
		
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			because that gives me what we can
do Heba about people when you
		
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			slander people and so on and so
forth. Well, he read Darwin annual
		
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			hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen