Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – A History of the Madrasah
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa
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My dear respected friends Assalamu alaykum Warahmatullahi
Wabarakatuh.
Allah subhanho wa Taala says in the Quran, or people who believe
protect yourself
and your families from the fire.
That's a very specific, very special, very important command
because that shows how ALLAH SubhanA wa Taala wants people to
look after their families, maintain them in a particular way,
grant them some stability, for the sake of the Hereafter for a
movement for a believer everything is to do with the hereafter. So
that is what's built into this verse, you need to protect your
families, so that the hereafter is full of salvation, endless bliss.
What I'm going to do today because mashallah, this is all about
madrasahs, and MK Dubs and Islamic schools as such, especially for
our children in this country. What I'm going to speak to you today is
I'm going to, I'm going to look at the development of the whole
maktab or madrasa process for the early centuries of Islam. This
gives us an understanding that we are not alone in this. This is
something that our forebears had begun something that they paid
great attention to. And you'll see, when we look at the different
incidents and account of this, you'll see how much of an
importance was placed into this.
The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.
If we look at his command for children, because this is all
about children, mockups generally are to do with children. Just
before I get into that discussion, there's a few things here. The
words we're looking at is madrasa. The word madrasa is in Arabic, a
word that comes from the root of Doris, or Darwaza, that also means
to study. madrasa means the place where study takes place,
a place in which you do studies, that's why it's called madrasa
have a very similar word in Hebrew, they call it Midrash. A
lot of their scenes become sheens. There's this Midrash. So you have
madrasah.
They also call it Kutub.
Again, from the word cateva. To right, gettable, so you have
madressa and you have cooked up and different parts of the world
will use these different terms. The word mother says a very
generous a general term it just means a school it means any place
where some kinds of study and teaching is taking place
in our communities. A madrasa is a place where the dean is studied.
You go to Arab countries and you say madrasa have this that and the
other and it could be secular studies on a lower level, Jammie
Jammie, generally University. So that's just to familiarize
ourselves with it. However, Kitab is generally where young people
study young children study. That's called Liquid tub.
The Prophet sallallahu aneurysms guidance in this regard, if we're
to trace it back to him, the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam, he
commanded the La ilaha illallah is the first thing that should be
instilled in any child straight after birth. So as soon as the
child is born, we are commanded. And that's the Islamic tradition
that we say the Athan, the word of Allah goes and enters the ear and
thus reminds the child who has just come from having witnessed
Allah subhanho wa Taala in the island of Aurora in the realm of
the souls of the Covenant allow us to be rabbinical.
So the first thing La Ilaha illa Allah and the last thing is also
La ilaha illAllah. Whoever dies with La Ilaha illa Allah has their
final words they enter into Jana. So that's how it wants to Allah
subhanaw taala wants us to begin to start with the word of Allah
and end with Allah and everything else then inshallah in between
will be with Allah subhanho wa Taala as well.
That's why Abdullah Hypno salah, he relates to the Allahu on the
sahaba. And tambourine, they used to make their children
read La ilaha illallah, seven times, when they first began to
speak, when they could start saying words, the first thing they
tried to get them to say, before you're about a me, Mummy, Papa,
and all of these other things that we have is La Ilaha illa Allah.
I'm telling you this from experience that is not something
difficult. The word hola is such a easy, natural
word that doesn't require the parsing of the lips. It requires
just the emptiness of the mouth to say hola, hola. You can't even
tell that my lips are moving to say a word. You can just hear the
sound, Allah. And it's something that children can pick up very
quickly even before they learn to speak as long as you repeated it a
few times in them. Now we are speaking about madrasahs here,
right I know you've come here to to this madrasa opening in which
we're going to be
the teaching Quran and various different sciences of Islam and so
on. But we're going right back to the beginning. That if the
beginning and the foundation can be like this, then everything else
that proceeds from they will have that Baraka because the name of
Allah is full of Baraka. According to scholars like Razali Imam
Ghazali Rahim Allah he says that even if the name of Allah is
taken, with absolutely no concentration or presence of the
mind is just Allah you say, that will still have the benefits.
That still has its benefit. That's how powerful this word is.
Intrinsically. It's the Great Name of Allah, that Allah Hill out of
them, according to many scholars, and it has real power. If we can
get our little children you just have to sit down say hola, hola,
hola. And they will say Allah, then when they actually start
speaking, get them to c'est la ilaha illa Allah. So according to
this narration, this is what the Sahaba used to do. They would get
them to say so say de la ilaha illallah seven times.
During the time of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in
terms of separate madrasas. There was no such concept. There was a
mother of the madrasa to sofa in which you had the Greek students
like Abu Huraira or the Allahu Allah. The Prophet sallallahu
sallam was the teacher 24 hours timetable, no kitchen facilities,
no dormitories, it was just whatever happened, whatever came
along. And the examiner was Allah subhanaw taala Willa equilibrium,
Johanna Allahu lubomirski Taqwa. So that was a separate mother
herself. However, because the whole lifestyle in those days in
that initial period, especially the whole lifestyle, the whole
ethos, the whole outlook, the whole motivation for life, as you
know, from the stories of the Sahaba, it was all for the sake of
Allah. So anything that the Sahaba they learned from Rasulullah
sallallahu Sallam in the adult gatherings as such, and there will
be children, some children present there as well. But they would go
and impart this into the lives of their children in the towel
Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam as I mentioned, because the entire
ethos, the entire focus, they lived Islam, as you know, the way
they learned their soldiers, were by practice, not just by
memorization, not knowing what they mean, they actually learned
it through practice. And that means all of that was being
imparted into their homes as well. So there wasn't really much of a
need, felt at the time to have separate places for children to
study. However,
it was.
Children would sometimes attend the gatherings and sometimes with
the delegations that came from outside from the expanded areas
within the Arabian Peninsula, they would come and they would also
study, they would also come with the delegation. So children were
always part of the deal as such, Roma are the Allahu Anhu. It's
him. Now. You see, when we move on from Rasulullah Salah some time to
Abu Bakr, Siddiq, or the Allah on time Abubaker there was time was
mainly focused on trying to bring back the order in the Arabian
Peninsula after a number of people had a plasticize number of
claimants to Prophet prophethood had come up. And then they were
the battles on the two fronts, one in the Persian lands had been
worried and so on. And then on the other hand, we had sham will obey
the immune Jabra and others. So that's what he was laying the
foundation for stability. After the Prophet saw somebody parts in
this world. When Amara, the Allahu Anhu came up,
and he became the Khalif that's when a huge amount of development
took place. And part of that development is that no no longer
are there people who are like Sahaba right, who whose full ethos
may be that it is completely Quran and Sunnah in their homes as
such Islam had spread far and wide. So now they required a
special learning system. And that's why in Madina, Munawwara
O'Meara the Allahu Anhu is the founder of the Makati the mucked
up the plural muckety muck, the good mcurtin Whatever you want to
call it, he is you can say the founder of the system
in Madina, Munawwara for example in the Mohalla of Hypno hasm and
also in console or mal there's a narration from what do you need?
Not at all. Who relates that Ghana Bill Medina, Salah, her two more
alanine they they were in Madina Munawwara three teachers. These
were the first three mock them teachers the such three mock them
teachers in Madina Munawwara you only Munna CBM they will teach the
children for Ghana. Amara years Zuko Kula Haman whom Hamsa Tasha
Kula Shahar, Amara, the Allah and given that would give them a
stipend their pay their wage was 50 What was a
15 Durham's a month that will be so they were being paid for it.
Many people think that these automa they should just do
everything for free.
The money will just come from Allah somehow.
Zuid Zuhal an abstention from the world is a personal thing. You
can't force it on somebody else.
If somebody wants to do it themselves, that's up to them. If
a teacher wants to take all of his wealth and give it out in the path
of Allah that's up to him. You pay them what the due amount is to be
paid. Then you get product you get a good results and a good
production.
So the three they were omitted no Abdullah Al Kuzari. There was a
banana al Wallaby and an abuse of yarn.
There was one whose name was Ahmed he used to teach all day.
This Ameer Abdullah Jose he used to teach all day until he had no
time to do anything else. So then he went and complaints or Omar the
alarm shortened his time because they probably had several classes
10s of classes a day where they were teaching all day maybe
children coming and going coming and going.
So Omar will be alone shorten this time.
Amara, the Allahu Anhu he would select the best and the most
proficient and expert individuals to teach.
Once there was a desert Arab Bedouin, he came along and he
recited a verse of the Quran in Allaha burry, and in Allah but eel
Meenal mashallah Kena what a SULI that's how he read it. In the
Quran is actually what a Zulu. What it means is that Allah
subhanaw taala
verily, indeed, Allah has exonerated himself from the
Mushrikeen he has got nothing to do with the machine, the policies,
what are SULI if you read rosulip It means and from His Messenger,
that Allah has nothing to do with His Messenger, great blasphemy.
major mistake. So,
Amara, the Allahu Allah when he found out he asked him, why has
Allah exonerated himself from the messenger? So he explained the
incident. And then Amara, the Allahu Anhu taught him that the
correct word is what a su, which means, verily, Allah and His
Messenger, they exonerate themselves from the Mushrikeen
makes a massive difference just by changing a Dhamma for orchestra,
a pitch for a zeal it's as simple as that, but it changes the
meaning completely around.
So Omar, the Allahu Anhu then made a an order he said, Now you law
you Creole Quran Ihlara naman, beluga T. Nobody should teach the
Quran except the one who knows the language, who understands it. Now,
these people, I mean, what I can't understand what what I find it
difficult to understand is that these were Arabs. And they made
this mistake.
And they could understand the meaning. So what were they
thinking about? But then that tells us that we majority of our
community doesn't understand Arabic at all. So can you imagine
what kind of really crazy mistakes we must be making? If that's a
missile mistake us that could sit by with them who understood the
language? Can you imagine what kind of mistakes we make? And
seriously, there are some severe mistakes that we make. Once in the
mythos during hygiene, I believe it was during Hajj.
There was a woman shouting out loudly she's leading her little
group into us. She shouldn't have been doing that to start with, but
she's saying Allahumma asila ne yo Mala Zilla in LA Z look
with the DA is actually Allahumma of Villa Neoma Allahumma villainy,
yo Mala Villa Illa will look. She's saying Allahumma Zeleny
instead of
We're learning
right VA instead of Tsar and you know the mistake, she is the dua
is oh Allah grant me shade on the day to end the day when there's no
shade except your shade.
Beautiful door. She's saying Oh ALLAH caused me to slip on the day
when there's no slipping except you're slipping Yala.
She was the distance from me so I couldn't really tell him I was
like, Come on, man. What? Right in front of the camera? Where do I
was accepted.
Of course Allah subhanaw taala understands and hopefully
overlooked the mistake. But it's sad case.
Just for the benefit of the adults because while we're all focused on
our children, unfortunately many of us didn't have very good MCQs
many of many of our elders my age older than me, some even younger
than me.
Our Tajweed is quite unsatisfactory, to say the least.
We read Quran in Urdu, meaning we in Arabic we are do accent,
Pakistani accent, Gujarati accent, Bangladeshi accent, that's what we
do. And we mess it up. For example, the word collarbone.
Collarbone is different from Kilbourne
for many people, what's the difference? So all the same?
Collarbone, Kilbourne what the first one means a heart. The
second one means a dog.
What a difference. And there's so many words like this Arabic is
very sensitive. It's a very accurate, very perfect language,
very sophisticated, anything slipped from here today makes a
big mistake. So now that we are interested in our children going
to Madras, mashallah, we've celebrating that aspect, we also
need to correct our touch, we'll have it tested by somebody and
attend some classes. You guys have scheduled classes here for adults,
okay, so let me promote that for you, then you have, they have
three classes here. And you should definitely take them it makes a
difference. Inshallah, within a month, if you've got the right
teacher, you will improve, and the critical mistakes will be
minimized. Otherwise, for the rest of our life, we're making
mistakes. So
that's why Almighty Allah wanted the best of the people to teach so
that they knew what to teach and how to teach it.
And
he used to say, he used to encourage that people should teach
the three while more facile first, which are the longest sort of some
sort of gerat. He, they should teach those first, because they
easier to read
the last sutras there, sometimes, sometimes a bit more complicated
term, if you if you master the last juice of the Quran, from ama
dishonouring. To the end, you should be able to read any part of
the Quran afterwards.
And this is I'm telling you this from experience.
I was teaching some children when I was when I was an imam in
America. I taught some children, but I was very rigorous. I didn't
let them go ahead unless they really knew that the jewel of ama
one father came in he said that my daughter she's eight years old or
something now, she's not progressing at all. You're still
on AMA.
Now I'd never done this before, but I said okay, come here, sit
down. I call his daughter over. She just did an AMA, but properly
solid. I picked up the Quran and opened it in the middle. She had
never read the Quran before meaning, you know, the whole Quran
she was always on Amma sabara which were not on Quran. Yeah,
this Quran Ran is the last part of the Quran. Anyway, I picked it up
and I said read from here.
And she her name is Leila. Leila read from here. And she started
reading. Not only this, she surprised me but she surprised her
father. I said you can open up any part of the Quran she'll be able
to read it.
Any kid who know who who's got a decent ability to read in general,
some people are a bit weak in reading in general, any language.
Very clever, but they're a bit reading is for minority of
students. But any shoeless is good. And you teach them Amal?
Well, they should be yes, there's going to be some other few words
here and there that will be complicated, but in general, they
should they should be able to read the Quran. He gave special orders
and he had copies of the Quran produced
and this was later on.
Later on in the during the whole of our time. They had copies of
the Quran produced and spread around the Muslim lands.
They were about 100,000 Moose house Quran basically we call them
Quran but Quran is actually the wording. The real word for it is
moose half in Yemen, Sham Iraq missile, etc. Well, he didn't know
Abdul Malik, who's the what he did not have the money and Medicaid
number one son, one of the Omega beliefs. He had special teachers
for orphans.
They focus in
We're talking about disabled people and looking after
Unfortunately, many of our Muslim countries right now, don't really
worry about them right now. But this was in those times when in
the, during the Obama years, you had, well, he did not Abdulmalik
having special teachers for orphans as well.
In order to maintain the tradition,
he initiated the stipends. This was Omar, the Allah one, he
initiated the stipends. So in 20, Hijiri,
he center in the 20th century, he sent an order to all of his eMeals
all of his governors, and the leaders of the different governors
in the different parts of the Muslim world. And he said that
you need to start giving stipends, for anybody who teaches. Some of
the leaders wrote back and said, then they're not going to have a
class, they won't do it sincerely, they're going to do it for the
money. And you know, this discussion about whether you do it
for money or whatever that's been happening. It's as old as
humanity.
Some said that they just gonna come for the stipend. He said, You
give it to them, based on the categories of now look at the
category of how you give how you pay somebody, he said, give it to
them based on these three categories, shut off, Maru, and
Sahaba sabia right, which basically means you give it to
them based on their personal standing and dignity, their
chivalry, how good they are, how fair they are, how decent they
are, if they have common social decency, decency, that's what you
call Maru. Sraffa nobility. And number three Sahaba, if there were
Sahaba of the Prophet salallahu Salam. And you can see that each
one of them has its own benefit, because always the
whatever however, the teacher is their behavior, their conduct, it
rubs off on the children. So if you've got somebody who's
literally just working outside, until five o'clock rushes to get
to the mucked up, gets there 315 You know, our mucked up generally
start at five o'clock. And they want to do it just for an extra
80 100 pound a week. And they're tired. And they just like, No,
they just, they don't really pay attention. But I've been a
principal of Manitoba and I can tell you that we've seen all of
these things, then that is just really sad.
Unfortunately, our dilemma is we don't have enough Alama who want
to teach
that we can be choosy and picky about who we take. Sometimes in
where I was, I had to literally take whoever came in for an
interview,
whether they were good or bad, I just had to take them in because
you had to sit somebody there. And that was the sad case.
One of the reasons that I left the whole principle thing, somebody
has to do it, but the reason I left is because I just couldn't
get my vision through.
Because you don't, there's just not enough training. It's sad
because in schools to become a teacher, you have to go through a
rigorous two three year program, get your PG C's and all these
other. And when it comes to Mother Teresa, somebody's been in a
madrasah for six, seven years, and then colors they can start
teaching. Teaching is different from learning. You may be a good
learner, you may not be a good teacher, teacher requires
interaction with children.
It requires a certain psychology, certain understanding of a mindset
requires experience. And it's the whole science behind it. And I
think now that Alhamdulillah in this country, we have at least
three or four syllabus syllabi produced or being produced or
newly produced, and I think, which is very good. Competition refines
the process of Hamdulillah. The next thing we need to do is we
need to, we need to up the game and have training centers for
teachers for mucked up teachers. But you're not going to be able to
do this until mucked up, stop paying good amount of money, then
they can demand the best. It's a vicious cycle. We can't get
teachers brothers, how much are you paying? seven pound an hour?
Right? If you're lucky 10 pounds an hour. If you're lucky. I
personally believe McTell should be paid a lot more than that.
Because this is a very specialist work. You should pay 1520 pounds
an hour this is what I believe
this is what I believe, but they should demand the best and nothing
but the best.
Okay, so now
Omar Abdulaziz he did the same. He further developed the system. And
he said that take care of them.
Take care of them of these teachers and the students so that
they will
study and teach properly. This is Amara
Abdelaziz it figured this out already. Somehow we've
retrogressed and then he said, if not above, so the Allahu Anhu said
that there are certain things that are necessary.
There are certain things that are necessary.
Three things that are unnecessary. This is related by Imam Hakeem
buying and selling of most house, they should be an industry that
buys and sells basically produces most health.
Korans, that's very important for our immune system to continue. So
that's one thing number two, he said, the reading and teaching of
the Quran.
Sorry, if the mishaps are not sold, and you don't have copies,
then how you're going to locate how you're going to teach this.
And
the other thing he said is that, while Abdullah Nasimi more
unlimited.
People should have teachers that teach their children way up who do
Allah Donica agilon. And they also they paid for it. They're not paid
for it. They're not answerable. You can't make them accountable.
It's I'm teaching, it's my, it's my, you know, take it or leave it.
And that's a really bad psychology to deal with. So if you they paid
well, and there are a number of Muslims that I know around the
country that charge well, but they teach well, because they can
attract the best teachers, and they can attract the best parents
who are concerned about their children, their pain, they they're
going to, they're going to hold the teachers into account. That's
why Omar Abdullah Abdullah Aziz, then he said, Well, Hola, Danica
mccannon, Nurse Amin, if it is not for this proper setup and the
system, having books available, and having good teachers,
then people will remain unlettered, they will not know how
to read and write.
Say the people who say, the great Derby and great Hadith scholar. He
was going past the Khattab, Omarosa
and he said he remarked her Willa E. A Nashoba. Donna, these are the
people that are our next generation they're going to
carry on after us is related in the Takata human side.
Mr. Malik, Mr. Malik says that
I don't really like these dots in the Quran that differentiate the
butter and thug.
And the gem HA and HA, I don't like these dots and these other
symbols that they have in the Quran.
But I guess it's okay for children who said it helps them to read.
And today, I guess there's nobody very few scholars in the world
working, who could actually read read the authentic script that
doesn't have any dots because the weight of man or the Allah one who
had it written, it was without dots, we could not tell the
difference between bad data and thought that it was just the
shape, there was no dots above or below. That was something they say
hydrogen, the use of added when Islam spread far and wide, and
people were finding it difficult now to read. So then the judge
came up with this idea. This is one of his accomplishments.
And now we have all sorts of stuff written in there. I remember when
I was in Syria, really shake up the Rosabel Halaby. He took all
the mistakes, I made a little pencil mark on the side. And one
of the students actually says, hola, hola, Cote. LaVilla What are
you doing? You're writing in the Quran is really bad. And, you
know, for us in our business that they, they they use, generally
they use pencil, but Subhanallah there are some people use pen, red
pens, scarring the Quran for life. I think that's completely wrong.
They use big, big pens to to make the mistakes, what's his balloon
zone?
Now, you know, when people used to start reading, when they would
learn a few students, when you finish the Quran, you should see
what kind of joy and happiness people would express in those
days. Hamdulillah we have that as well. But what I have seen is that
it's not as much as it used to be before. And the reason is that we
have martial arts, so many other MMA, so many movies, and all of
this in our community that it's become like a norm. But believe
me, I have taught in places where there was nothing. There was
nothing Subhanallah there is one place that I taught one place I
was teaching in America, one of the children.
He'd studied with me Tarly Mohawk
and his grandfather, then he left a mother, a son, his grandfather
was on his deathbed. Nobody in his nobody in his family knew what to
do. How to put him down how to what to say to him, you know,
nobody, he remembered into animal health. All of this. I've studied
that he got went and grabbed this animal help and he
Ready through under martial law, he was able to save the day as
such.
They just don't know. There's a lot of places like this. I'll give
you an idea when I went to America. In our area, there was no
mucked up system at all. There was something called a set Sunday
school, where no Ireland, just one of the concerned brothers of the
community, you know, one of the Bachata concern brothers that he
would go and teach them so you tell him a story. It read me read
a bit of Quran. And if it's
right, teach you a bit of Arabic. And then by next week, they
forgotten also teach them again, crazy.
So
I'm saying that we are going to start a mucked up here. Nobody
wants to come, oh, they're going to be so tired from school. Eight
hours in school, how are they going to come and do this
Alhamdulillah I had a few families about three or four families very
dedicated. They said we'll send our children so that's fine. We
started with about 1520 children.
After six months or so, what happened is we kept a program in
which we got all of the children to read
the miracle for them. And the community. They were just like,
Wow, how'd you do this. So then they started this in sending their
children.
So we got more it went up to 25 or 30 or something like this. But
that's how you have to do it, you have to bring in the tradition we
have the traditional Hamdulillah.
So they would get really really excited, very happy when they
would when they would see that somebody has achieved something.
For example, when the Khalifa Al Mahdi,
his son,
he
started to learn law oxime will be handled balance. He went on to
start reading law oxy will be handled but by the age of five,
which is quite good. By the age of five, the auction will be handled
but he gave 100,000 bid homes in South Africa
100,000 dirhams in South Africa. And seven, he gave 500
slaves he emancipated 500 slaves. He was so excited. This was the
respect that they had. This was the respect for the Quran that
they had.
Haroon Rashid
he gave obey the Abner Armadyl have one of the teachers 70,000
dirhams when his son
Mohammed was taught sort of Al Hadid by him
so they would actually reward their teachers like this as well
have ignored he sham says that in our times a child could read 1/3
of the Quran,
tutor teacher without a single mistake.
That's not bad at all. We have that today as well. In some
places. There's some madrasahs like Medusa Korea in
in South Africa. And I think darlin, Blackburn and other places
where they get the children to read the entire Quran in one or
two sittings, and they don't want more than one or two mistakes. And
that's a possibility even today, Mashallah.
a four year old, a four year old was brought into the court of
Munna Rashid, Harun Rashid son.
When he was the Hadith, he had read the Quran.
He also knew some fic
but he would cry when he was hungry.
Still a child. He would cry when he's hungry.
The call the Abu Mohammed Abdullah Abdullah Abdullah Mohammed Al Asad
Rouhani. He says that
I had memorized the Quran by the age of five.
And at four, I went to the modulus of Abu Bakr Al McCray,
a hadith scholar.
I wanted to study Hadith with him, my father, my mother, whatever
sent me to him and all the people surrounding he says no, he
shouldn't be allowed here is a child he shouldn't be allowed
here.
Don't teach him so Abu Bakr said to me
that really sort of caffeine.
So I read through through Kathy rune
then he said
read sort of the cathode. So I read MacArthur is give me easy
Soros right
but then another person he said no read Walmart Salah to your Orpha
so easy stuff, we will read one more salad, good job and you say
why no limit of 15
so I read that we
Not a single mistake. That's not bad. Right? People get stuck in
the beginning or morcilla to golfer.
And after that it will buckle and mockery said, Let him stay late
and listen, I'm responsible for him. So, you we've had this
tradition from the past. And that is the only way this Omar has
continued this way.
Just to give you an idea, there are some there are a number of
places that I have been in other countries generally, where the
because the children have not had any upbringing in Islam, except
the fact that they know that they're Muslim.
And what Muslim means is that we go for Eid prayer. And in Ramadan,
we, the adults fast, nothing more than that. They can you believe
it. They don't even know the Kalam. They know they go for Eid
prayer. They go to Ramadan, but they don't know the Kenema.
It's never a focus. This one woman that we met, I had gone to give a
talk in one of the universities in Arizona. And they told me that
this sister only discovered other Muslims outside of her family when
she came to university, and she became practicing. Because her
father's a doctor in some remote place, and there's just no
exposure to it.
hamdulillah what we have is amazing.
Many Muslim countries. My last point here many Muslim countries
around the world, they incorporate the Islamic learning in their
regular schools. This is a Muslim country, Arab country, they don't
have a marked up system. There's no focus study. It's just part of
the national curriculum. So you got like a Quran study this study
or that study. And a lot of the time, there's not much focus on
those lessons.
There's not much focus on those lessons at all. The main focus is
all of the other signs and whatever. So they can go to
London, and they can go to America and other places, and Paris and
other places. So there's not much focus on that. So that's really
sad.
Alhamdulillah in the subcontinent. And this is not everywhere in the
subcontinent, by the way. But in a number of states. I can speak for
India, I haven't been to Bangladesh or Pakistan, so I can't
speak for them. But in India, some states have a very good system.
And yet in other states, they don't have a very good system. For
example, in Gujarat, and in many parts in Maharashtra, and also in
Bangalore. They have school separate the normal secular
schools separate, but then they have a full mucked up system. And
it's always been the case. I personally believe that this is
what was imported into the UK. This whole system was imported
into the UK with our the first people that came here,
unfortunately up it's different. You either school, or you're
either madrasa.
I went to one mother as a one young, young people's mother, and
all the kids are doing solid leads.
That's impossible. How do you get the jury that this age so well.
And then I discovered that they only do mothers or they do nothing
else six hours in madrasah. You can get them to learn everything
if you're going to do that. So in sum like up where the big deal
been than all that is, unfortunately,
you either take the school tract, or you take the Dini track,
you don't combine the two that creates a
divorce between Allah Ma and the so called University crowd.
And that is not healthy at all.
Alhamdulillah in England, we haven't done this. We have school
and we have madrasa.
And that has to stay together. I mean, something like maths, bit of
science, the language is important. But because of the
colonial past, there is a suspicion. Many people understand
the problem and they understand the dilemma. They are trying to
change it and it is changing in some places. But I'm just
mentioning these models to you. Because if you have any connection
any of these places, maybe you can do something about it. That's why
I'm mentioning these models for us.
So
in Bangalore, for example, I was at the headquarters of the maktab
had the amount of headquarters, they want 6000 McDonald's around
the state
and it's all governed from this one to 6000 not 15 not 20 not
106,000 They very good system they bring everybody in to train them
they have the syllabus in the all the local languages. They This is
India but mashallah very advanced PowerPoint offices, you know, that
works and they do it very well. So Alhamdulillah we do have these
models
that ah Mashallah. And I think England is doing very well in that
regard but we still we've, we've we've got a number of places where
we can still help. So may Allah subhanho wa Taala
grant all of those who came to this country and were mashallah
had the,
the concern for this, to set all of these mothers up, may Allah
protect these mothers, may Allah subhanaw taala protect them from
all of the challenges that are out there and that may come May Allah
subhanaw taala allow us to really value them, build upon them. And
may Allah subhanho wa Taala reward all of those have gone out into
other areas to do this. That's why this madrasa here is fulfilling
the needs
any mother so you're open, you're going to fulfill a need and you
have to identify these places where this will happen. So may
Allah subhanho wa Taala rewards our brother ShipIt and his family
who've started this place and may Allah subhanho wa Taala take it
from strength to strength and may Allah subhanaw taala allow us to
our children here to benefit from this and granted all the
protection there is an accept us all for the service of Allah's
Deen in some way or the other pocket without when I'm doing it.