Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – A History of the Madrasah

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The importance of protecting families and individuals from the spread of rumors and false rumors is discussed in the context of the Prophet sall campaigns and the need for children to learn in a particular way. The importance of learning in the Arabian society is emphasized, along with the need for proper MCQs and classes for children. The speakers also touch on mistakes made by countries and people in general, including missing information and mistakes made by people in general. The importance of learning and training for teachers and mucked-up teachers is emphasized, along with the need for people to read and write properly. There is a risk of conflict between Islam and American values, and the focus on learning in schools is fulfilling the needs of children.
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa

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Salatu was Salam ala UL Mursaleen. While earlier he was Safi, Rocco

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was seldom at the Sleeman Cathedral on Ilario Medina America

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called Allah Tabata Katara Quran emoji they will Furqan al Hamid

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Yeah, yeah hello Dina Manu goo fullcycle mwah, Li come now. Baku

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Hannahs will hija or are they eager to

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Shida soon have law?

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Law, sooner law,

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wire for you.

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My dear respected friends Assalamu alaykum Warahmatullahi

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Wabarakatuh.

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Allah subhanho wa Taala says in the Quran, or people who believe

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protect yourself

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and your families from the fire.

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That's a very specific, very special, very important command

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because that shows how ALLAH SubhanA wa Taala wants people to

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look after their families, maintain them in a particular way,

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grant them some stability, for the sake of the Hereafter for a

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movement for a believer everything is to do with the hereafter. So

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that is what's built into this verse, you need to protect your

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families, so that the hereafter is full of salvation, endless bliss.

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What I'm going to do today because mashallah, this is all about

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madrasahs, and MK Dubs and Islamic schools as such, especially for

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our children in this country. What I'm going to speak to you today is

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I'm going to, I'm going to look at the development of the whole

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maktab or madrasa process for the early centuries of Islam. This

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gives us an understanding that we are not alone in this. This is

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something that our forebears had begun something that they paid

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great attention to. And you'll see, when we look at the different

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incidents and account of this, you'll see how much of an

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importance was placed into this.

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The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.

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If we look at his command for children, because this is all

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about children, mockups generally are to do with children. Just

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before I get into that discussion, there's a few things here. The

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words we're looking at is madrasa. The word madrasa is in Arabic, a

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word that comes from the root of Doris, or Darwaza, that also means

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to study. madrasa means the place where study takes place,

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a place in which you do studies, that's why it's called madrasa

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have a very similar word in Hebrew, they call it Midrash. A

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lot of their scenes become sheens. There's this Midrash. So you have

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madrasah.

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They also call it Kutub.

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Again, from the word cateva. To right, gettable, so you have

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madressa and you have cooked up and different parts of the world

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will use these different terms. The word mother says a very

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generous a general term it just means a school it means any place

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where some kinds of study and teaching is taking place

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in our communities. A madrasa is a place where the dean is studied.

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You go to Arab countries and you say madrasa have this that and the

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other and it could be secular studies on a lower level, Jammie

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Jammie, generally University. So that's just to familiarize

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ourselves with it. However, Kitab is generally where young people

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study young children study. That's called Liquid tub.

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The Prophet sallallahu aneurysms guidance in this regard, if we're

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to trace it back to him, the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam, he

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commanded the La ilaha illallah is the first thing that should be

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instilled in any child straight after birth. So as soon as the

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child is born, we are commanded. And that's the Islamic tradition

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that we say the Athan, the word of Allah goes and enters the ear and

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thus reminds the child who has just come from having witnessed

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Allah subhanho wa Taala in the island of Aurora in the realm of

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the souls of the Covenant allow us to be rabbinical.

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So the first thing La Ilaha illa Allah and the last thing is also

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La ilaha illAllah. Whoever dies with La Ilaha illa Allah has their

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final words they enter into Jana. So that's how it wants to Allah

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subhanaw taala wants us to begin to start with the word of Allah

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and end with Allah and everything else then inshallah in between

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will be with Allah subhanho wa Taala as well.

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That's why Abdullah Hypno salah, he relates to the Allahu on the

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sahaba. And tambourine, they used to make their children

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read La ilaha illallah, seven times, when they first began to

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speak, when they could start saying words, the first thing they

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tried to get them to say, before you're about a me, Mummy, Papa,

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and all of these other things that we have is La Ilaha illa Allah.

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I'm telling you this from experience that is not something

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difficult. The word hola is such a easy, natural

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word that doesn't require the parsing of the lips. It requires

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just the emptiness of the mouth to say hola, hola. You can't even

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tell that my lips are moving to say a word. You can just hear the

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sound, Allah. And it's something that children can pick up very

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quickly even before they learn to speak as long as you repeated it a

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few times in them. Now we are speaking about madrasahs here,

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right I know you've come here to to this madrasa opening in which

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we're going to be

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the teaching Quran and various different sciences of Islam and so

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on. But we're going right back to the beginning. That if the

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beginning and the foundation can be like this, then everything else

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that proceeds from they will have that Baraka because the name of

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Allah is full of Baraka. According to scholars like Razali Imam

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Ghazali Rahim Allah he says that even if the name of Allah is

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taken, with absolutely no concentration or presence of the

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mind is just Allah you say, that will still have the benefits.

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That still has its benefit. That's how powerful this word is.

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Intrinsically. It's the Great Name of Allah, that Allah Hill out of

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them, according to many scholars, and it has real power. If we can

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get our little children you just have to sit down say hola, hola,

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hola. And they will say Allah, then when they actually start

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speaking, get them to c'est la ilaha illa Allah. So according to

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this narration, this is what the Sahaba used to do. They would get

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them to say so say de la ilaha illallah seven times.

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During the time of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in

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terms of separate madrasas. There was no such concept. There was a

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mother of the madrasa to sofa in which you had the Greek students

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like Abu Huraira or the Allahu Allah. The Prophet sallallahu

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sallam was the teacher 24 hours timetable, no kitchen facilities,

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no dormitories, it was just whatever happened, whatever came

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along. And the examiner was Allah subhanaw taala Willa equilibrium,

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Johanna Allahu lubomirski Taqwa. So that was a separate mother

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herself. However, because the whole lifestyle in those days in

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that initial period, especially the whole lifestyle, the whole

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ethos, the whole outlook, the whole motivation for life, as you

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know, from the stories of the Sahaba, it was all for the sake of

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Allah. So anything that the Sahaba they learned from Rasulullah

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sallallahu Sallam in the adult gatherings as such, and there will

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be children, some children present there as well. But they would go

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and impart this into the lives of their children in the towel

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Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam as I mentioned, because the entire

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ethos, the entire focus, they lived Islam, as you know, the way

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they learned their soldiers, were by practice, not just by

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memorization, not knowing what they mean, they actually learned

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it through practice. And that means all of that was being

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imparted into their homes as well. So there wasn't really much of a

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need, felt at the time to have separate places for children to

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study. However,

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it was.

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Children would sometimes attend the gatherings and sometimes with

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the delegations that came from outside from the expanded areas

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within the Arabian Peninsula, they would come and they would also

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study, they would also come with the delegation. So children were

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always part of the deal as such, Roma are the Allahu Anhu. It's

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him. Now. You see, when we move on from Rasulullah Salah some time to

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Abu Bakr, Siddiq, or the Allah on time Abubaker there was time was

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mainly focused on trying to bring back the order in the Arabian

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Peninsula after a number of people had a plasticize number of

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claimants to Prophet prophethood had come up. And then they were

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the battles on the two fronts, one in the Persian lands had been

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worried and so on. And then on the other hand, we had sham will obey

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the immune Jabra and others. So that's what he was laying the

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foundation for stability. After the Prophet saw somebody parts in

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this world. When Amara, the Allahu Anhu came up,

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and he became the Khalif that's when a huge amount of development

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took place. And part of that development is that no no longer

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are there people who are like Sahaba right, who whose full ethos

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may be that it is completely Quran and Sunnah in their homes as

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such Islam had spread far and wide. So now they required a

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special learning system. And that's why in Madina, Munawwara

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O'Meara the Allahu Anhu is the founder of the Makati the mucked

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up the plural muckety muck, the good mcurtin Whatever you want to

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call it, he is you can say the founder of the system

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in Madina, Munawwara for example in the Mohalla of Hypno hasm and

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also in console or mal there's a narration from what do you need?

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Not at all. Who relates that Ghana Bill Medina, Salah, her two more

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alanine they they were in Madina Munawwara three teachers. These

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were the first three mock them teachers the such three mock them

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teachers in Madina Munawwara you only Munna CBM they will teach the

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children for Ghana. Amara years Zuko Kula Haman whom Hamsa Tasha

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Kula Shahar, Amara, the Allah and given that would give them a

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stipend their pay their wage was 50 What was a

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15 Durham's a month that will be so they were being paid for it.

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Many people think that these automa they should just do

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everything for free.

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The money will just come from Allah somehow.

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Zuid Zuhal an abstention from the world is a personal thing. You

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can't force it on somebody else.

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If somebody wants to do it themselves, that's up to them. If

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a teacher wants to take all of his wealth and give it out in the path

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of Allah that's up to him. You pay them what the due amount is to be

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paid. Then you get product you get a good results and a good

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production.

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So the three they were omitted no Abdullah Al Kuzari. There was a

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banana al Wallaby and an abuse of yarn.

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There was one whose name was Ahmed he used to teach all day.

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This Ameer Abdullah Jose he used to teach all day until he had no

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time to do anything else. So then he went and complaints or Omar the

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alarm shortened his time because they probably had several classes

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10s of classes a day where they were teaching all day maybe

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children coming and going coming and going.

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So Omar will be alone shorten this time.

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Amara, the Allahu Anhu he would select the best and the most

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proficient and expert individuals to teach.

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Once there was a desert Arab Bedouin, he came along and he

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recited a verse of the Quran in Allaha burry, and in Allah but eel

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Meenal mashallah Kena what a SULI that's how he read it. In the

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Quran is actually what a Zulu. What it means is that Allah

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subhanaw taala

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verily, indeed, Allah has exonerated himself from the

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Mushrikeen he has got nothing to do with the machine, the policies,

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what are SULI if you read rosulip It means and from His Messenger,

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that Allah has nothing to do with His Messenger, great blasphemy.

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major mistake. So,

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Amara, the Allahu Allah when he found out he asked him, why has

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Allah exonerated himself from the messenger? So he explained the

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incident. And then Amara, the Allahu Anhu taught him that the

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correct word is what a su, which means, verily, Allah and His

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Messenger, they exonerate themselves from the Mushrikeen

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makes a massive difference just by changing a Dhamma for orchestra,

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a pitch for a zeal it's as simple as that, but it changes the

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meaning completely around.

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So Omar, the Allahu Anhu then made a an order he said, Now you law

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you Creole Quran Ihlara naman, beluga T. Nobody should teach the

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Quran except the one who knows the language, who understands it. Now,

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these people, I mean, what I can't understand what what I find it

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difficult to understand is that these were Arabs. And they made

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this mistake.

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And they could understand the meaning. So what were they

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thinking about? But then that tells us that we majority of our

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community doesn't understand Arabic at all. So can you imagine

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what kind of really crazy mistakes we must be making? If that's a

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missile mistake us that could sit by with them who understood the

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language? Can you imagine what kind of mistakes we make? And

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seriously, there are some severe mistakes that we make. Once in the

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mythos during hygiene, I believe it was during Hajj.

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There was a woman shouting out loudly she's leading her little

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group into us. She shouldn't have been doing that to start with, but

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she's saying Allahumma asila ne yo Mala Zilla in LA Z look

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with the DA is actually Allahumma of Villa Neoma Allahumma villainy,

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yo Mala Villa Illa will look. She's saying Allahumma Zeleny

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instead of

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We're learning

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right VA instead of Tsar and you know the mistake, she is the dua

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is oh Allah grant me shade on the day to end the day when there's no

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shade except your shade.

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Beautiful door. She's saying Oh ALLAH caused me to slip on the day

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when there's no slipping except you're slipping Yala.

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She was the distance from me so I couldn't really tell him I was

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like, Come on, man. What? Right in front of the camera? Where do I

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was accepted.

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Of course Allah subhanaw taala understands and hopefully

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overlooked the mistake. But it's sad case.

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Just for the benefit of the adults because while we're all focused on

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our children, unfortunately many of us didn't have very good MCQs

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many of many of our elders my age older than me, some even younger

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than me.

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Our Tajweed is quite unsatisfactory, to say the least.

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We read Quran in Urdu, meaning we in Arabic we are do accent,

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Pakistani accent, Gujarati accent, Bangladeshi accent, that's what we

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do. And we mess it up. For example, the word collarbone.

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Collarbone is different from Kilbourne

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for many people, what's the difference? So all the same?

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Collarbone, Kilbourne what the first one means a heart. The

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second one means a dog.

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What a difference. And there's so many words like this Arabic is

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very sensitive. It's a very accurate, very perfect language,

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very sophisticated, anything slipped from here today makes a

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big mistake. So now that we are interested in our children going

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to Madras, mashallah, we've celebrating that aspect, we also

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need to correct our touch, we'll have it tested by somebody and

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attend some classes. You guys have scheduled classes here for adults,

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okay, so let me promote that for you, then you have, they have

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three classes here. And you should definitely take them it makes a

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difference. Inshallah, within a month, if you've got the right

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teacher, you will improve, and the critical mistakes will be

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minimized. Otherwise, for the rest of our life, we're making

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mistakes. So

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that's why Almighty Allah wanted the best of the people to teach so

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that they knew what to teach and how to teach it.

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And

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he used to say, he used to encourage that people should teach

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the three while more facile first, which are the longest sort of some

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sort of gerat. He, they should teach those first, because they

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easier to read

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the last sutras there, sometimes, sometimes a bit more complicated

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term, if you if you master the last juice of the Quran, from ama

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dishonouring. To the end, you should be able to read any part of

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the Quran afterwards.

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And this is I'm telling you this from experience.

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I was teaching some children when I was when I was an imam in

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America. I taught some children, but I was very rigorous. I didn't

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let them go ahead unless they really knew that the jewel of ama

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one father came in he said that my daughter she's eight years old or

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something now, she's not progressing at all. You're still

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on AMA.

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Now I'd never done this before, but I said okay, come here, sit

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down. I call his daughter over. She just did an AMA, but properly

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solid. I picked up the Quran and opened it in the middle. She had

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never read the Quran before meaning, you know, the whole Quran

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she was always on Amma sabara which were not on Quran. Yeah,

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this Quran Ran is the last part of the Quran. Anyway, I picked it up

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and I said read from here.

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And she her name is Leila. Leila read from here. And she started

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reading. Not only this, she surprised me but she surprised her

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father. I said you can open up any part of the Quran she'll be able

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to read it.

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Any kid who know who who's got a decent ability to read in general,

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some people are a bit weak in reading in general, any language.

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Very clever, but they're a bit reading is for minority of

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students. But any shoeless is good. And you teach them Amal?

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Well, they should be yes, there's going to be some other few words

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here and there that will be complicated, but in general, they

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should they should be able to read the Quran. He gave special orders

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and he had copies of the Quran produced

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and this was later on.

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Later on in the during the whole of our time. They had copies of

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the Quran produced and spread around the Muslim lands.

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They were about 100,000 Moose house Quran basically we call them

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Quran but Quran is actually the wording. The real word for it is

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moose half in Yemen, Sham Iraq missile, etc. Well, he didn't know

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Abdul Malik, who's the what he did not have the money and Medicaid

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number one son, one of the Omega beliefs. He had special teachers

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for orphans.

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They focus in

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We're talking about disabled people and looking after

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Unfortunately, many of our Muslim countries right now, don't really

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worry about them right now. But this was in those times when in

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the, during the Obama years, you had, well, he did not Abdulmalik

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having special teachers for orphans as well.

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In order to maintain the tradition,

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he initiated the stipends. This was Omar, the Allah one, he

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initiated the stipends. So in 20, Hijiri,

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he center in the 20th century, he sent an order to all of his eMeals

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all of his governors, and the leaders of the different governors

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in the different parts of the Muslim world. And he said that

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you need to start giving stipends, for anybody who teaches. Some of

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the leaders wrote back and said, then they're not going to have a

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class, they won't do it sincerely, they're going to do it for the

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money. And you know, this discussion about whether you do it

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for money or whatever that's been happening. It's as old as

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humanity.

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Some said that they just gonna come for the stipend. He said, You

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give it to them, based on the categories of now look at the

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category of how you give how you pay somebody, he said, give it to

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them based on these three categories, shut off, Maru, and

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Sahaba sabia right, which basically means you give it to

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them based on their personal standing and dignity, their

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chivalry, how good they are, how fair they are, how decent they

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are, if they have common social decency, decency, that's what you

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call Maru. Sraffa nobility. And number three Sahaba, if there were

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Sahaba of the Prophet salallahu Salam. And you can see that each

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one of them has its own benefit, because always the

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whatever however, the teacher is their behavior, their conduct, it

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rubs off on the children. So if you've got somebody who's

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literally just working outside, until five o'clock rushes to get

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to the mucked up, gets there 315 You know, our mucked up generally

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start at five o'clock. And they want to do it just for an extra

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80 100 pound a week. And they're tired. And they just like, No,

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they just, they don't really pay attention. But I've been a

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principal of Manitoba and I can tell you that we've seen all of

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these things, then that is just really sad.

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Unfortunately, our dilemma is we don't have enough Alama who want

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to teach

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that we can be choosy and picky about who we take. Sometimes in

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where I was, I had to literally take whoever came in for an

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interview,

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whether they were good or bad, I just had to take them in because

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you had to sit somebody there. And that was the sad case.

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One of the reasons that I left the whole principle thing, somebody

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has to do it, but the reason I left is because I just couldn't

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get my vision through.

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Because you don't, there's just not enough training. It's sad

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because in schools to become a teacher, you have to go through a

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rigorous two three year program, get your PG C's and all these

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other. And when it comes to Mother Teresa, somebody's been in a

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madrasah for six, seven years, and then colors they can start

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teaching. Teaching is different from learning. You may be a good

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learner, you may not be a good teacher, teacher requires

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interaction with children.

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It requires a certain psychology, certain understanding of a mindset

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requires experience. And it's the whole science behind it. And I

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think now that Alhamdulillah in this country, we have at least

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three or four syllabus syllabi produced or being produced or

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newly produced, and I think, which is very good. Competition refines

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the process of Hamdulillah. The next thing we need to do is we

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need to, we need to up the game and have training centers for

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teachers for mucked up teachers. But you're not going to be able to

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do this until mucked up, stop paying good amount of money, then

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they can demand the best. It's a vicious cycle. We can't get

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teachers brothers, how much are you paying? seven pound an hour?

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Right? If you're lucky 10 pounds an hour. If you're lucky. I

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personally believe McTell should be paid a lot more than that.

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Because this is a very specialist work. You should pay 1520 pounds

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an hour this is what I believe

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this is what I believe, but they should demand the best and nothing

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but the best.

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Okay, so now

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Omar Abdulaziz he did the same. He further developed the system. And

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he said that take care of them.

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Take care of them of these teachers and the students so that

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they will

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study and teach properly. This is Amara

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Abdelaziz it figured this out already. Somehow we've

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retrogressed and then he said, if not above, so the Allahu Anhu said

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that there are certain things that are necessary.

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There are certain things that are necessary.

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Three things that are unnecessary. This is related by Imam Hakeem

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buying and selling of most house, they should be an industry that

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buys and sells basically produces most health.

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Korans, that's very important for our immune system to continue. So

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that's one thing number two, he said, the reading and teaching of

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the Quran.

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Sorry, if the mishaps are not sold, and you don't have copies,

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then how you're going to locate how you're going to teach this.

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And

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the other thing he said is that, while Abdullah Nasimi more

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unlimited.

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People should have teachers that teach their children way up who do

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Allah Donica agilon. And they also they paid for it. They're not paid

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for it. They're not answerable. You can't make them accountable.

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It's I'm teaching, it's my, it's my, you know, take it or leave it.

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And that's a really bad psychology to deal with. So if you they paid

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well, and there are a number of Muslims that I know around the

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country that charge well, but they teach well, because they can

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attract the best teachers, and they can attract the best parents

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who are concerned about their children, their pain, they they're

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going to, they're going to hold the teachers into account. That's

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why Omar Abdullah Abdullah Aziz, then he said, Well, Hola, Danica

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mccannon, Nurse Amin, if it is not for this proper setup and the

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system, having books available, and having good teachers,

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then people will remain unlettered, they will not know how

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to read and write.

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Say the people who say, the great Derby and great Hadith scholar. He

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was going past the Khattab, Omarosa

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and he said he remarked her Willa E. A Nashoba. Donna, these are the

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people that are our next generation they're going to

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carry on after us is related in the Takata human side.

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Mr. Malik, Mr. Malik says that

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I don't really like these dots in the Quran that differentiate the

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butter and thug.

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And the gem HA and HA, I don't like these dots and these other

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symbols that they have in the Quran.

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But I guess it's okay for children who said it helps them to read.

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And today, I guess there's nobody very few scholars in the world

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working, who could actually read read the authentic script that

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doesn't have any dots because the weight of man or the Allah one who

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had it written, it was without dots, we could not tell the

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difference between bad data and thought that it was just the

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shape, there was no dots above or below. That was something they say

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hydrogen, the use of added when Islam spread far and wide, and

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people were finding it difficult now to read. So then the judge

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came up with this idea. This is one of his accomplishments.

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And now we have all sorts of stuff written in there. I remember when

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I was in Syria, really shake up the Rosabel Halaby. He took all

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the mistakes, I made a little pencil mark on the side. And one

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of the students actually says, hola, hola, Cote. LaVilla What are

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you doing? You're writing in the Quran is really bad. And, you

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know, for us in our business that they, they they use, generally

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they use pencil, but Subhanallah there are some people use pen, red

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pens, scarring the Quran for life. I think that's completely wrong.

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They use big, big pens to to make the mistakes, what's his balloon

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zone?

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Now, you know, when people used to start reading, when they would

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learn a few students, when you finish the Quran, you should see

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what kind of joy and happiness people would express in those

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days. Hamdulillah we have that as well. But what I have seen is that

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it's not as much as it used to be before. And the reason is that we

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have martial arts, so many other MMA, so many movies, and all of

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this in our community that it's become like a norm. But believe

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me, I have taught in places where there was nothing. There was

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nothing Subhanallah there is one place that I taught one place I

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was teaching in America, one of the children.

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He'd studied with me Tarly Mohawk

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and his grandfather, then he left a mother, a son, his grandfather

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was on his deathbed. Nobody in his nobody in his family knew what to

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do. How to put him down how to what to say to him, you know,

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nobody, he remembered into animal health. All of this. I've studied

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that he got went and grabbed this animal help and he

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Ready through under martial law, he was able to save the day as

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such.

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They just don't know. There's a lot of places like this. I'll give

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you an idea when I went to America. In our area, there was no

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mucked up system at all. There was something called a set Sunday

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school, where no Ireland, just one of the concerned brothers of the

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community, you know, one of the Bachata concern brothers that he

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would go and teach them so you tell him a story. It read me read

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a bit of Quran. And if it's

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right, teach you a bit of Arabic. And then by next week, they

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forgotten also teach them again, crazy.

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So

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I'm saying that we are going to start a mucked up here. Nobody

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wants to come, oh, they're going to be so tired from school. Eight

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hours in school, how are they going to come and do this

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Alhamdulillah I had a few families about three or four families very

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dedicated. They said we'll send our children so that's fine. We

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started with about 1520 children.

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After six months or so, what happened is we kept a program in

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which we got all of the children to read

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the miracle for them. And the community. They were just like,

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Wow, how'd you do this. So then they started this in sending their

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children.

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So we got more it went up to 25 or 30 or something like this. But

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that's how you have to do it, you have to bring in the tradition we

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have the traditional Hamdulillah.

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So they would get really really excited, very happy when they

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would when they would see that somebody has achieved something.

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For example, when the Khalifa Al Mahdi,

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his son,

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he

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started to learn law oxime will be handled balance. He went on to

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start reading law oxy will be handled but by the age of five,

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which is quite good. By the age of five, the auction will be handled

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but he gave 100,000 bid homes in South Africa

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100,000 dirhams in South Africa. And seven, he gave 500

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slaves he emancipated 500 slaves. He was so excited. This was the

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respect that they had. This was the respect for the Quran that

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they had.

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Haroon Rashid

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he gave obey the Abner Armadyl have one of the teachers 70,000

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dirhams when his son

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Mohammed was taught sort of Al Hadid by him

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so they would actually reward their teachers like this as well

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have ignored he sham says that in our times a child could read 1/3

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of the Quran,

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tutor teacher without a single mistake.

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That's not bad at all. We have that today as well. In some

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places. There's some madrasahs like Medusa Korea in

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in South Africa. And I think darlin, Blackburn and other places

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where they get the children to read the entire Quran in one or

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two sittings, and they don't want more than one or two mistakes. And

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that's a possibility even today, Mashallah.

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a four year old, a four year old was brought into the court of

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Munna Rashid, Harun Rashid son.

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When he was the Hadith, he had read the Quran.

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He also knew some fic

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but he would cry when he was hungry.

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Still a child. He would cry when he's hungry.

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The call the Abu Mohammed Abdullah Abdullah Abdullah Mohammed Al Asad

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Rouhani. He says that

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I had memorized the Quran by the age of five.

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And at four, I went to the modulus of Abu Bakr Al McCray,

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a hadith scholar.

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I wanted to study Hadith with him, my father, my mother, whatever

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sent me to him and all the people surrounding he says no, he

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shouldn't be allowed here is a child he shouldn't be allowed

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here.

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Don't teach him so Abu Bakr said to me

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that really sort of caffeine.

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So I read through through Kathy rune

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then he said

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read sort of the cathode. So I read MacArthur is give me easy

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Soros right

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but then another person he said no read Walmart Salah to your Orpha

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so easy stuff, we will read one more salad, good job and you say

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why no limit of 15

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so I read that we

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Not a single mistake. That's not bad. Right? People get stuck in

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the beginning or morcilla to golfer.

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And after that it will buckle and mockery said, Let him stay late

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and listen, I'm responsible for him. So, you we've had this

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tradition from the past. And that is the only way this Omar has

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continued this way.

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Just to give you an idea, there are some there are a number of

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places that I have been in other countries generally, where the

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because the children have not had any upbringing in Islam, except

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the fact that they know that they're Muslim.

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And what Muslim means is that we go for Eid prayer. And in Ramadan,

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we, the adults fast, nothing more than that. They can you believe

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it. They don't even know the Kalam. They know they go for Eid

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prayer. They go to Ramadan, but they don't know the Kenema.

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It's never a focus. This one woman that we met, I had gone to give a

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talk in one of the universities in Arizona. And they told me that

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this sister only discovered other Muslims outside of her family when

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she came to university, and she became practicing. Because her

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father's a doctor in some remote place, and there's just no

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exposure to it.

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hamdulillah what we have is amazing.

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Many Muslim countries. My last point here many Muslim countries

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around the world, they incorporate the Islamic learning in their

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regular schools. This is a Muslim country, Arab country, they don't

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have a marked up system. There's no focus study. It's just part of

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the national curriculum. So you got like a Quran study this study

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or that study. And a lot of the time, there's not much focus on

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those lessons.

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There's not much focus on those lessons at all. The main focus is

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all of the other signs and whatever. So they can go to

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London, and they can go to America and other places, and Paris and

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other places. So there's not much focus on that. So that's really

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sad.

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Alhamdulillah in the subcontinent. And this is not everywhere in the

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subcontinent, by the way. But in a number of states. I can speak for

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India, I haven't been to Bangladesh or Pakistan, so I can't

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speak for them. But in India, some states have a very good system.

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And yet in other states, they don't have a very good system. For

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example, in Gujarat, and in many parts in Maharashtra, and also in

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Bangalore. They have school separate the normal secular

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schools separate, but then they have a full mucked up system. And

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it's always been the case. I personally believe that this is

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what was imported into the UK. This whole system was imported

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into the UK with our the first people that came here,

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unfortunately up it's different. You either school, or you're

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either madrasa.

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I went to one mother as a one young, young people's mother, and

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all the kids are doing solid leads.

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That's impossible. How do you get the jury that this age so well.

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And then I discovered that they only do mothers or they do nothing

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else six hours in madrasah. You can get them to learn everything

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if you're going to do that. So in sum like up where the big deal

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been than all that is, unfortunately,

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you either take the school tract, or you take the Dini track,

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you don't combine the two that creates a

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divorce between Allah Ma and the so called University crowd.

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And that is not healthy at all.

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Alhamdulillah in England, we haven't done this. We have school

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and we have madrasa.

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And that has to stay together. I mean, something like maths, bit of

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science, the language is important. But because of the

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colonial past, there is a suspicion. Many people understand

00:39:06 --> 00:39:08

the problem and they understand the dilemma. They are trying to

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change it and it is changing in some places. But I'm just

00:39:12 --> 00:39:15

mentioning these models to you. Because if you have any connection

00:39:15 --> 00:39:19

any of these places, maybe you can do something about it. That's why

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I'm mentioning these models for us.

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So

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in Bangalore, for example, I was at the headquarters of the maktab

00:39:30 --> 00:39:35

had the amount of headquarters, they want 6000 McDonald's around

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the state

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and it's all governed from this one to 6000 not 15 not 20 not

00:39:41 --> 00:39:47

106,000 They very good system they bring everybody in to train them

00:39:47 --> 00:39:52

they have the syllabus in the all the local languages. They This is

00:39:52 --> 00:39:55

India but mashallah very advanced PowerPoint offices, you know, that

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works and they do it very well. So Alhamdulillah we do have these

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models

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that ah Mashallah. And I think England is doing very well in that

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regard but we still we've, we've we've got a number of places where

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we can still help. So may Allah subhanho wa Taala

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grant all of those who came to this country and were mashallah

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had the,

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the concern for this, to set all of these mothers up, may Allah

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protect these mothers, may Allah subhanaw taala protect them from

00:40:27 --> 00:40:30

all of the challenges that are out there and that may come May Allah

00:40:30 --> 00:40:34

subhanaw taala allow us to really value them, build upon them. And

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may Allah subhanho wa Taala reward all of those have gone out into

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other areas to do this. That's why this madrasa here is fulfilling

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the needs

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any mother so you're open, you're going to fulfill a need and you

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have to identify these places where this will happen. So may

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Allah subhanho wa Taala rewards our brother ShipIt and his family

00:40:54 --> 00:40:58

who've started this place and may Allah subhanho wa Taala take it

00:40:58 --> 00:41:02

from strength to strength and may Allah subhanaw taala allow us to

00:41:02 --> 00:41:06

our children here to benefit from this and granted all the

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protection there is an accept us all for the service of Allah's

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Deen in some way or the other pocket without when I'm doing it.

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