Abdal Hakim Murad – Shah Shahidullah Faridi Paradigms of Leadership

Abdal Hakim Murad
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John Gilbert Leonard, the founder of modern European Islam, struggles in politics and views on spirituality. He discusses various spiritual and spiritual classics, including experiences with nature, religion, and spirituality. He also emphasizes the importance of trusting oneself and avoiding hesitation in achieving acceptance. In a later story, a man wants to protect a marine from overwhelming effects and shaping it from the "retaliatory" elements.
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Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salatu salam, ala Rasulillah was early,

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he was so happy he won and voila.

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So in this series of paradigms of leadership, we have been

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more recently looking at some more recent figures, not because things

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get better, historically, usually a rule of entropy seems to apply.

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But because it tends to be easier for us to empathize with, learn

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from people who to some extent, inhabit a world that's a bit like

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our own. So we looked at Abdulhadi, ugly, in many ways, the

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founder of modern European Islam. And then we looked at SHEIKH AHMED

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Bullock, first imam of the mosque in Oxford. And

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even though they are not remember Buhari or sharp at the NOC bound,

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or Emmanuel finale, the recent pneus of their story somehow

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brings them to life more vividly. And so I'm going to continue along

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those lines today by speaking about a parallel life one, which

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in some ways intersects with

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that which reflects a different pattern. Not a pattern of light

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coming to the west, but of something moving in the opposite

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direction, rather less common process. So I'm going to be

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speaking about John Gilbert Leonard, also known as

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Shahidullah, for reading.

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It's

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not always easy to determine the details of his life, so to do the

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boring historians thing and to grumble about the sources, even

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though he dies in 1978, and one can still meet people who knew

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him.

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He never wrote or spoke much about himself. This is often a problem

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dealing with people whose minds are not on themselves.

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There's no autobiography. seldom does he make autobiographical

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remarks in his multiples art is public pronouncements.

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But there has been recently a very nice, well researched biography of

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him by Sikandar and Samina Agim, published in Karachi. And

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unfortunately, you can't get it here, even by the wiles of Amazon.

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It's really hard to get hold off, but maybe inshallah it will reach

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us one day, but you can buy it in bookshops in Pakistan, and I would

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recommend it.

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Also, over the years, as my

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interest in him has become known, I've been communicated with by

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some people who knew him or whose families knew him who shared with

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me certain anecdotes and Reports which have helped to fill in my

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picture of his life.

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So let us proceed with the biography and indicate aspects of

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his leadership. As we've said, it's not quite the Islamic world,

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but the way in which he was regarded as a leader by what came

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to be many, many 1000s of people and a legacy that continues to

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this day.

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So he is British, and his father

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was born in Sydney, but spends most of his life in England is

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William Leonard, born in 1888. Father served in World War One in

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the military police, but leaves the army early because of deafness

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goes into business and becomes a hugely successful businessman in

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the paper manufacturing trade.

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And also a property speculator becomes head of the European paper

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Merchants Association, which I believe is still in existence in

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1911. He marries the sheiks mother, Ruth Kathleen Leonard,

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and the union is blessed with three sons and a daughter. The

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last of them to die the daughter Kathleen died in 2001 in Paris

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where she was living in conditions of some prosperity.

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They had a very large house as you would expect in Willesden house

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was bombed during the war. It seems no longer to be in existence

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234 Willesden lane, so no possibility of a blue block there

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and unfortunately, your green block perhaps might be

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interesting.

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And so the middle son, the second son

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John Gilbert is born on the 11th of March 1915.

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And is two years younger than his older brother William. But the two

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are very, very close doesn't always happen with siblings, but

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in their case, it's an important aspect of their spiritual growth

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together. They're not twins, but in many ways, they are more than

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just siblings. We are told that when they were young, they used to

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go out for walks together that they had a propensity for nature.

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They didn't like going in their father's car with his driver they

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prefer to walk. All three boys were sent to Shrewsbury School. In

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the 1920s Shrewsbury School one of those ancient English public

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schools I think Michael Heseltine was there people like that and

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establishment public school.

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And he does the usual things in the school records indicate that

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he was in the school cricket team in the classical six. So he was a

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classicist to Grecian Latinus. To training the Officers Training

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Corps.

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divinity and Chapel were compulsory. So he knew his Bible,

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very much a product of the heyday of the British system. But there's

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also the roaring 20s, the age of postwar flapper, let it all hang

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out hedonism. And there are early signs that the two of them

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possibly through their communing with nature, but not through any

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kind of family urging, because it seems that the parents were not

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observant Catholics even there was a kind of default to Catholicism

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in the and of course, Shrewsbury is an Anglican foundation, that

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they start reading religious stuff together and theology.

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So later on, he writes things like this. God's oneness and faith are

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part of our nature. He's talking about the fitrah. Sometimes his

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inspiration arises in our hearts, that kind of inner invitation, men

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soul is inclined towards oneness.

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Because Oxford, becomes an undergraduate, serious minded

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young man and begins a correspondence with none other

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than vagin or as early as 1934. And he is only 19 at the time. But

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again, always happy to reply, again, or you may recall is the

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French comparative religion is to is converted to Islam and

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initiated into the shadowy 30 or by even a Gwalia, who we spoke

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about electoral two ago. So there's a connection there and

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again on continues to pop up in the story of significant 20th

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century

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European Muslims

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indicated the line that links on modern day European Muslims like

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shells on his release, his books are quite influential to most of

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us. So back to Ghana, back to actually back to Shahabi Rahman,

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Alicia Kabir, back to Abloh cardiologists at URI with his

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famous letter to the French in which he proposes that the East

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West conflict can be turned into some something more positive, with

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both sides retaining their own spiritual integrity. And that sort

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of dialogical authenticity has often characterized the works of

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many European Muslim authors. So And incidentally, genau still so

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influential. Prince Charles reads again, or Steve Bannon reads

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Ghana, all kinds of people, not just people on the Looney Tunes,

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right? But

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still imprinted, influential Chicago idea here.

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And the significance of general tends to be that unlike a lot of

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syncretistic, comparative religionists, proto New Age

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thinkers, again, always insistence that in order to make spiritual

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growth, you have to make a significant spiritual commitment

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to a single religion. This chop and change, new age thing, little

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bit of yoga, a little bit of Feng Shui, perhaps a bit of hippie

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Christianity mixed up together to suit the zeitgeist of the 1960s is

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absolutely not. What tradition with a capital T is all about, and

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generals works have achieved that more than I think they've achieved

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anything else. Just last week, I was on a train to Leeds got

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talking to a young Cameroonian guy called Ebenezer never met Ebenezer

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before and he was a great fan of Guinness. So we're talking about

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gain or what gain are made of modernism and Freemasonry and

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interesting so a lot of

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People still and because of the guy bought was bought up a

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Christian but you can't read Ghana and be Islamophobic going off to

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you is that if you're seriously interested in religion in the

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modern age, the practices of Islam where you have to go because

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they're more intact

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and this is a common theme for European Islam I think if you look

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at John Butz new autobiography, a Talibs Tale, which is interesting

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account of how he also brought up a Catholic, went to Stonyhurst,

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the Jesuit school and was actually thrown out of Stonyhurst

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lost his interest in Catholic Christianity after Vatican to the

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mid 1960s. When they changed the liturgy, the Latin Mass with all

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of its bling and splendor and reverence was gone to be replaced

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by various sort of slightly Protestant ties vernacular

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liturgies. And he said after that he knew that Catholicism wasn't

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spiritually serious. You can imagine what a fuss Muslims would

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make if some council of ministers decided oh, in future you're going

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to sit read your numbers in English. And the Imam is going to

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be facing the congregation. Not with the congregation facing the

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divine mystery and all kinds of other up to date. With it tree

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innovations, hearts would be broken. But thankfully, we don't

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have a Vatican or a papacy. Nobody has the right to fiddle with our

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core practices in that way. Pope Francis is putting the boot in

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spree spectacularly with the new

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Motu Proprio that he issued a few months ago that's got the latin

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mass society in tears. It's a big kerfuffle, if you look at Catholic

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websites, they feel that they're losing something that they've

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always had to be replaced by something

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mediocre and modern.

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But again, I was point was that you can't do that to Islam. Nobody

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does it to Islam, because the liturgy is intact, and that why

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it's the appropriate place for spiritually serious people in this

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age, because its its forms are intact.

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Anyway, so again, on interestingly, is an early

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influence. And at that time, Ghana wasn't translated into English and

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the books hadn't been written yet. This was the mid 1930s and general

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Dyson 20 years later.

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So, a serious minded young man in Oxford starts reading Orientalist

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texts as well, of different traditions. But particularly this

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is one of the golden ages of Islamic Studies, Sufi translation,

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particularly Margaret Smith and Reynold Nicholson here in

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Cambridge.

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Smith, I think was also at Girton for a while, kind of tweedy lady

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who could be seen cycling around on her way to church while writing

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books about Robert either way, but one of the first people to bring

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that to the light of a non specialist public. And Nicholson,

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of course, just 100 yards from the Harvey Road, translated the

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Masnavi into English, which has always been a kind of source of

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spiritual radiation attracting all manner of people. One of the great

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events of Oriental Studies really one of the few areas in which is

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impacted a very wide public has been Nicholson's translation of

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the machinery. But

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the main influence seems to have been Nicholson's earlier

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translation, which was off the cashflow module of eliquid weary,

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which becomes an important text for Leonard stroke for Edie for

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the rest of his life.

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This is an element of men whose weary dies in 1072, a very early

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Persian Sufi manual.

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So, for Edie, eventually with his disciples in Karachi, teaches who

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to query extensively

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reading it in Persian usually and then expounding it in order. So

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this is one of the things that he says later on, which varies mode

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of exposition is evident, usually start with relevant quotations

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from the Quran and the traditions of the Holy Prophet salAllahu

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alayhi wasallam and then proceeds to his own analysis,

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interspersed with numerous references to the dicta of the

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saints.

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He seems to have very definite views on every aspect of the

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spiritual way, but shows no narrowmindedness and always gives

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full mentioned to any differing opinions. He appears to be a

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master of dogmatic theology and McCallum and frequently quotes its

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judgments and argumentations throughout the book. So the

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advantage of this type of text is that it absolutely routes the

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higher discourse of the soul off in the outward armature of the

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religion

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and Hadith, Cullen, etc. You

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showing the two as two halves of a single beautiful hole

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to is in Oxford. And incidentally, casting your mind back to the

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story of only eight years later, but Bullock converts in Oxford

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during the war.

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But there's no evidence that I've been able to determine that they

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ever met each other.

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By Alicia, again, you might remember from the previous

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lecture, wrote the first book really that serious in an

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introductory introductory kind of way to Sufism in 1933, which is

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really quite early. This is the father of Idris Shah, and he comes

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to live in Oxford, but later he comes to escape the Blitz. So

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that's some way down the line.

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So comparative religion is his thing with a particular interest

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in these amazing Sufi classics. And while an undergraduate he

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starts to write a dissertation, which seems to have been on

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theosophy, quite a good choice, theosophy is writing high at the

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time, lots of people are reading.

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Madame Blavatsky, ISIS unveiled that strange kind of Vedanta type

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spiritualist reincarnation is some Christian thing that

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morphed in various ways divided into various ways, but it's still

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a going concern. And it seems that because again, or had actually

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written to refute the theosophist, that

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Leonard was also writing a kind of refutation of Madame Blavatsky.

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He came across the use of Ali's translation of the Quran.

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He decided that since all of the great spiritual writers of the

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world, the one thing they agree on is that ultimate reality is one

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that and that you cannot attribute any internal differentiation to

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it, that the Trinity was unacceptable as a spiritual

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teaching. He calls it unacceptable.

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Then he meets some Indian Muslims in London.

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First Muslims he meets, it seems.

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And then

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he reflects later on, on the fact that he didn't seem to share the

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general race and religious prejudice that was kind of the

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default in England at the time. So this is what he writes later, a

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rare autobiographical anecdote. We were three brothers one older and

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one younger. It is often the case that the middle child falls out of

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favor and does not remain the center of attention. However, it

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was certainly the case with me that no matter how much I was

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disregarded, when it came to Islam, my feelings were protected

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from the influence of my Western prejudice. So he's interested in

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these Indians, open minded listens, he's already had his

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heart melted and his curiosity piqued by his reading of good

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weary in particular.

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He is not an emotive type of person, and he doesn't become an

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ecstatic type of dervish ever he's always sober.

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So he has these long, nocturnal discussions in Oxford in his robes

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with his brother about religion, the meaning of life. Now, thanks

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to translations, one can access the primary texts of the great

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world religions to the Pali text society and these Orientalist

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translations and

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in that curious and earnest age, and this isn't just Brideshead

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Revisited, but there are some serious young minds in Oxford as

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well. They were discussing, well, what are we going to do? If we

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can't accept the triune understanding of ultimate reality,

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which is our birthright and what we studied at Shrewsbury? What are

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we going to do?

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We don't know the details of that process. But certainly we know

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that in October of 1936, he and his brother both take the train

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together to woking, the little mosque there and they take their

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shahada together.

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We didn't really know who it was with some stories say it was

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Abdullah Yusuf Ali was living in London at the time it's translated

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with the Quran. Others say that it was a mole and I've traveled Dean,

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there's lots of different accounts maybe doesn't matter so much. But

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they've taken their shahada immediately, of course, they face

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the difficulties. In London in Oxford. There's no Halal anything.

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Even the bread is always baked with lard, almost no mosques. It

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was a very challenging experience for these two earnest young,

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rather bookish converts. But they recognized having read their huge

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victory, that their real difficulty was the lack of a

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teacher, not just somebody to teach them the word

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but a spiritual guide.

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That's really what draws them into Islam.

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So later on, he writes this or when he speaks of the

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indispensability of a spiritual chef,

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it is certainly imperative in the sense that without it many latent

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qualities will never be developed. Or they will never bloom into that

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perfection of which they are truly capable. They will be human beings

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may be worthy ones in their own way, but they will have been

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deprived with the countless virtues and blessings of

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knowledge, which were their birthright, and which their God

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given nature demanded. There'll be like stunted trees still

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deserving, no doubt the name of the tree, but lacking the joy of

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harmonious expansion, and displaying themselves in that

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grant apparel, which is their gift from the court of divine beauty.

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In the Sufi tradition, and falling wedge weary, he's absolutely

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convinced that you can only really grow into what your Creator has

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made you to be, if you have somebody who can help you to grow,

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who can show you the way who can offer you a mirror in which to

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contemplate your own imperfections and to intuit the way you are made

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to be and can guide you interpret dreams, the traditional shake

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worried relationship, which becomes

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the guiding principle of most of the rest of his life.

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Okay, so let's pause at this point and do one of my usual meandering

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detours into another life.

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Which is not a Muslim life. So it can't be included in this series.

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But a if you'd like a more stunted life, that's not too harsh a word,

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I think. And that's the life of somebody called JG Bennett, much

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better known in esoteric spirituality circles. In the UK,

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when I was an undergraduate, there was a JG Bennett reading group in

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Cambridge, and they would sit on the floor and read his

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his writings and it continues to be a big thing for many, sometimes

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slightly silver headed

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seekers of a certain generation. So Gigi Bennett is more or less a

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contemporary authority. And they're interesting parallels. And

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he also serves as a kind of,

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perhaps even slightly tragic lesson in what happens when again

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alls advice to root oneself in a particular exoteric form, in its

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fullness, and in its rigor, and its discipline is not heeded.

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The very frequent Western desire to be free of organized religion,

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to look down upon the clergy and the formulas and the molars from a

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position of evident, but self satisfied superiority. The

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Enlightenment idea that we are happy when we are authentic, and

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we are authentic when we comply to our own cells, rather than to the

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forms that were originated in another place and time by other

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selves. This is one of the besetting problems of the New Age

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movement in particular, which says that to be spiritually free, you

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have to be yourself. That's the exact inversion of all traditional

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spiritual teaching, which is that the self in its present state is

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really bad news, a trap, an illusion, gravitation or a black

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hole for passions, to be resisted not not to be experienced as one's

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normative self, you might say, the abolition of the traditional

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understanding that there is knifes and raw, which is absolutely

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universal, anima, numa nephesh, lower, all the traditions have

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this, that there is a false self, which fails or TruSeq fits. It's

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the most. It's the first teaching really, but the new age thing, and

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a lot of Western spiritual dabbling has not been content with

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that and a certain ability to look down one's nose at formal

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religious practitioners has caused a lot of people to

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not to experience not to grow into into this fullness that 3d

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described so, Bennett

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lots of books by him, including an interesting one in which he

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depicts his discussions with various Sufi masters who he met.

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This is one of the editions of his autobiography,

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which is a spiritual journey, which doesn't really have

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a culmination or a conclusion or an ending, although he is a

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pneumatic type, that is to say he is intrinsically attracted towards

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spiritual things. He's not a worldling he's really interested

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in holy places, holy texts, holy people, and pins around you

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like a ball on a pinball table from spiritual magnet to spiritual

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magnets. So I want to, because I think the comparison is is useful.

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And so many people even today continue to get trapped by their

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determination to find freedom through their nurses autonomy,

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that that native talents are

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underused. So let me read a little bit from his actually rather

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interesting, although perhaps rather long. autobiography. Now,

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Bennett, during the First World War was kind of in charge of the

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police in Istanbul. After the Ottomans had left the British in a

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very traumatic time for Turkey, they'd lost the war. They'd also

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lost the Balkan provinces in 1912. But as a toric, was not yet there.

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So it's a truncated Turkey, a bruised turkey but you can still

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go to all of the Sufi ceremonies and meet the theologians. Ayasofya

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is still a mosque. So he's able to see this as a spiritual,

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interested, non prejudiced person, he finds some interesting

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encounters. So

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this is part of his account of the Mevlevi ceremony in Istanbul.

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This is the middle of the zikr or pointing of the soul towards God,

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it symbolizes the paradisal state of the soul when it leaves the

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body and enters the world of the Perfected man that insanity come

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in.

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Later, I learned how to perform the thicker myself and could

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verify the state of beatitude quite devoid of excitement which

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it engenders.

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The thicker is repeated three times. For the third and last

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time, the music changed into a strong and stately rhythm, much

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less dramatic than before. This time, the shape himself took part.

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For no reason that I could understand I began to weep. I

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noticed that most of the others looking on was sobbing to nothing

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new seem to have happened, but everything had changed.

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All too soon, the thicker ended and the dervishes instantly

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stopped about three times and slowly filed out. I watched each

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face as they went by. And it seemed to me that never before had

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I seemed such serenity.

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And then when he gets to know the dervishes, he recounts he recalls

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a kind of mystical experience that he'd had at least an out of body

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experience when he was in fighting in the trenches in the First World

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War, and was seriously wounded and had his out of body experience for

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six days in which he was kind of floating around looking at looking

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at his body as the surgeons were doing their work and out of body

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experiences are very generally reported in a variety of cultures

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after kind of huge traumatic shock to the metabolism. And that seems

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to have been what awakened him to the traditionally very obvious

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point, which is that we're not just bodies with a consciousness,

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but we're souls as well as bodies.

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And of course, the purpose of the prayer is to hold the two

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together, you might say we're very embodied in our forms of worship.

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I knew a Muslim girl who had kind of fallen away from the religion

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and was living with her boyfriend and undergraduate. And she was in

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a catastrophic motor accident and kind of died, but was brought

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back. And she told me how she'd have these out of body

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experiences. She'd be kind of during the surgical procedure

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looking down on her own body, and kind of gently descending into it.

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She was kind of really freaked out by this.

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And she continued to have those experiences after she'd been sent

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home. So he told her what to start the prayer again, you know how to

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do it. And she said, yeah, that kind of pool. She stopped those

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experiences afterwards. Because it's not it's not a good

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experience to have that the two are not supposed to be separate

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while you're still alive. Anyway.

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When I became used to their way of dealing with questions, I asked

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one wise old dervish about my experience of 21st of March 1918,

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when I was wounded in France.

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He listened very carefully and asked me one or two questions

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which reminded me of features of the experience that I had

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forgotten.

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He said, the more Cabela is the Mevlevi ceremony has the effect of

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bringing us into the same state where all fear of death

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disappears. We know that if we die at that moment, we shouldn't

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experience only bliss.

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So he finds that these people already know about this type of

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experience, and he can see from his own eyes and from his own

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experience, that this is a true, sacred tradition.

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The Muslim religion was beginning to interest me very much. As a

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boy, I had been revolted by the quarrels of the Christian

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churches. At my school we had two teachers of divinity, one very

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high church, and the other very low Church of England. The high

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churchmen was a mild but inept, old clergyman. But the low

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churchmen was a ruthless fanatic. He spoke of the Roman Catholic

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Church in terms that no schoolboy should be allowed to hear.

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We had more of a succession of missionary lecturers who spoke to

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us with such an accent of self righteousness.

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About the heathen, and they're miserable state that I and many

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others wanted to become heathens on the spot.

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When I spoke to my parents, my mother who hated hypocrisy said,

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most Englishmen are hypocrites, especially English priests.

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As a boy, my father had been at Lansing college and experienced a

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religious conversion. Afterwards it reacted against institutional

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religion, and had done his best to present us as children from

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acquiring any fixed beliefs against which we might afterwards

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revolt.

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So that kind of

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reflects against

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organized religions. And then he talks about

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he's thinking about Islam, but he sees the tearaway prayer as an

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ayah. Sophia and gives an amazing description of it and you see,

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looking at it from a gallery, it's 10,000 people in the mosque. And

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he says when everybody in the title with their heads hit the

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ground, you could actually feel that large building shaking

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slightly it was such such Majesty

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What could I make of it? I went out into the open air, or Istanbul

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was lit by oil lamps and candles festooned from minaret to minaret,

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from roof to roof everywhere. An incomparably beautiful city was

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dying. Okay, so he sees this is the end of the Ottoman world, and

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this religious thing is part of that. Can you join it, but it's

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dying? Soon there would be no assault on living at yielders the

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palace. I could not know how great the changes were to be how soon

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the face was to disappear with a women's veil. Soon them was in

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would call to prayer wearing a bowler hat by the Edict of a

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dictator and a hater of religion. Soon the dervishes were to

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disappear from the streets. The tech is to be closed and they're

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leading when exiled.

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I was witnessing the death of an epoch but I did not know it. I

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only knew that I was filled with a heartbreaking sadness. What was

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where was I to go? I just written to the warden of my college in

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Oxford to say that I would not take up my scholarship.

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I'd been recommended for the Staff College and yet I knew that an

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army career was impossible for me. I could not leave everything and

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become a dervish. The dervishes belong to the dying world. They

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were a reminder that once men had known how to live to the fall

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inwardly as well as outwardly, but it was only too obvious that the

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ancient fire died. So that's another theme that people think

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well, this oriental culture

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is coming to an end. Therefore I have to look for something else

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perhaps in the west and Bennett then has this complex Korea, he

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attaches himself to Gurdjieff in Paris and becomes Gurdjieff

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representative in England. And there's accounts in the book of

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frequent outrageousness of Gurdjieff, who had been with some

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Sufi teachers in Central Asia but wasn't compliant in any way. He

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wasn't a Muslim, he was have

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sort of mixed Armenian Russian children ancestry, and they would

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have these enormous sort of drunken, slightly promiscuous

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banquets in his flat in Paris where other spiritual wisdom was

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allegedly dispensed. So Bennett becomes his representative in

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England for this antinomian non organized religion, sort of

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spirituality gets quite hurt by it damaged

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and then sells good. Jeff's property Coombs brings to Idris

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Shah, who becomes another person who he thinks might be very

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significant. And then he gets into suborned and kind of bounces

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around with groups that allow people not to accept the second

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Shahada.

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So,

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but you can see throughout his life this is much later. This is

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the 1950s

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is wandering around the old dervish lodges which never closed

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of course.

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Then he says,

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I went at dusk to the great Sulaymaniyah mosque the youthful

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masterpiece of CNN of Caesarea, one of the world's greatest

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architects and mathematicians. My vision had grown more sensitive

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with the years and I stood upon the outer wall enraptured, with a

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subtle marvels of its domes and interlocking turrets cascading

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down and down in a harmony that seemed to unite the earth and

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heaven. How lifeless beside this prodigious building is our great

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St. Paul's on legate Hill, or the massive, meaningless Church of St.

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Peter's in Rome.

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In the supreme work of art, sin and Myanmar fulfilled his promise

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to Solomon the magnificent that he would outdo the Byzantines

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architects of center Sofia,

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I went inside and heard the voice of the boys in Chanting verses of

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the Quran.

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Once again, the purity of the acoustics brought tears to my

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eyes. But now I was aware of a sound within the sound and realize

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that the architect had built a spiritual temple within an earthly

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temple.

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Okay.

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So the decades has been hanging around in love with Islam and in

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love with the saints who he knows the saints but still something

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within him a certain Western pride a certain determination not to

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submit, has kept him outside the threshold.

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Then last quote I want is when he goes to Syria and Mitch Abdullah

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Davi Stanny, who's one of the great

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renewals of the NOC Bandy tariqa in the 20th century, and again, he

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has experience after experience with Danny Stanley that shows is a

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real saint, who knows more than one would naturally do so. The

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chef was waiting for me on the roof of his house. It was high up

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above the city commanding a superb panorama. Abdullah destiny was of

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middle height with a white beard but looked far younger than the 75

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years attributed to him. I felt at ease from the start, and very soon

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I experienced a great happiness that seemed to fill the place. I

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knew that I was in the presence of a really good man.

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After the usual salutations, and compliments with the excellence of

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my Turkish, she astonished me by saying, Why did you not bring the

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lady sister who is with you, I have a message for her as well as

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you. It seemed unlikely that anyone could have told him about

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Elizabeth, his wife, we'd walked straight to South house and my

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guide had left me at the door without speaking to anyone. I

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replied that as he was a Muslim, I did not think he would wish to

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speak with a woman. He said very simply, why not? Such customs are

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for the protection of the foolish, they do not concern me. Next time

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you pass through Damascus, will you bring her to see me?

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I promise to do so if the opportunity came.

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We sat for a long time in silence watching the ancient city. When he

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began to speak, I found it hard to come out of the Deep River into

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which I had fallen. He was saying I was expecting someone today. But

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I did not know it would be you. A few nights ago, an angel came to

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my room and told me that you would come to visit me that I was to

00:37:01 --> 00:37:04

give you three messages. You have asked God for guidance about your

00:37:04 --> 00:37:08

wife. She is in God's keeping. You've tried to help her but this

00:37:08 --> 00:37:11

is wrong. You disturb the work that God is doing in her soul.

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There is no cause for anxiety about her, but it is useless for

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you to try to understand. Second message concerns your house,

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you've asked God for guidance as to whether you should go your way

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or follow others. You must trust yourself, you will be persecuted

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by the Armenians. But you must not be afraid you have to attract many

00:37:29 --> 00:37:33

people to you. You must not hesitate even if other people

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are angry. It felt silent again, I was astonished at the two

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messages. It was perfectly true that I had prayed for guidance on

00:37:41 --> 00:37:45

just those two questions. If he was right than the way before he

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was clear.

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So

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and then there is other things that he talks about. The point is

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that throughout the book, he is relating

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his experiences with some of the greatest saints of the 20th

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century and seeing that Abdullah dynasty and he knows what he has

00:38:03 --> 00:38:06

been praying for, this wasn't even an appointment, he just went on

00:38:06 --> 00:38:09

the hope that you'd see him but the chef was waiting for him and

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knew that he should have brought his wife and again and again, he

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sees these kinds of Chifley phenomena. But still he doesn't

00:38:17 --> 00:38:21

take the plunge. He's kind of dancing around on the brink

00:38:21 --> 00:38:25

doesn't dive in. Although it said towards the end of his life. In

00:38:25 --> 00:38:28

his last year of his life, he actually started to perform the

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numbers in various ways and recognized Finally, some people

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say to get union rather obvious point that the inner kernel has to

00:38:38 --> 00:38:41

be protected by an outer shell, and that everybody needs

00:38:43 --> 00:38:43

Sharia.

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So,

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this is important, I think because there are so many people out there

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who are really reading Rumi attracted to spirituality, looking

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for truth, sometimes people who have had experiences of their own.

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But because of the nature of the age and the cult of individualism,

00:39:05 --> 00:39:10

find it very hard to submit to an outer form, in other words to

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accept the second Shahada.

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So here is

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Shahidullah for Edie later on, reflecting as somebody is asking

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him a question, what about sticking to moral values without

00:39:27 --> 00:39:31

numbers and religion will just be good and spiritual without doing

00:39:31 --> 00:39:38

this deemed stuff? Reply. This is a misconception. Some people do

00:39:38 --> 00:39:41

that in Europe, especially in certain historical times there

00:39:41 --> 00:39:45

have been ethical movements, but this is illogical in a way. The

00:39:45 --> 00:39:48

moral values which they know we say that he is good, he doesn't

00:39:48 --> 00:39:51

commit evil doesn't steal, doesn't murder or he doesn't cheat people

00:39:51 --> 00:39:54

doesn't lie. But how do we know that this is good?

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The only knowledge we have that it is good not to steal not to commit

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murder not to lie not

00:40:00 --> 00:40:04

To cheat not to deceive is through religion. The basic morality is

00:40:04 --> 00:40:07

known only through religion, man was unable to discover these

00:40:07 --> 00:40:11

things on his own. And all societies refer their moral code

00:40:11 --> 00:40:14

to certain teachers in the past. This is a reality,

00:40:15 --> 00:40:18

you must realize that the moral view which we have in America and

00:40:18 --> 00:40:21

Europe, these other places, I will diverge from Christianity.

00:40:22 --> 00:40:25

Having derived the moral values from Christianity, they now say

00:40:25 --> 00:40:28

that we don't believe in the ceremonial part of it, but only

00:40:28 --> 00:40:29

take the moral part of it.

00:40:30 --> 00:40:33

This is not the teaching of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi

00:40:33 --> 00:40:37

wasallam, and you are taking one part and rejecting the other that

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is unjustified. The fact is there are purposes in these things.

00:40:41 --> 00:40:44

Worship is not just an unpleasant duty, which God has for no reason

00:40:44 --> 00:40:49

or other told us to perform. That is not so the basis of all this

00:40:49 --> 00:40:52

is, as I said, the knowledge or understanding of the ultimate

00:40:52 --> 00:40:56

reality. What is the ultimate reality? Who is the Supreme Being?

00:40:57 --> 00:40:59

What are his characteristics or attributes as far as we can

00:40:59 --> 00:41:03

understand that? What was his purpose in creating us? What does

00:41:03 --> 00:41:06

he wish us to do? What is our ultimate destination, and so

00:41:06 --> 00:41:10

forth. In order to understand this, we have books that we read,

00:41:10 --> 00:41:14

it's been prescribed by God according to our human nature. He

00:41:14 --> 00:41:18

knows our nature much better than we do ourselves. We have to keep

00:41:18 --> 00:41:22

reminding ourselves of God. And we must keep on expressing our sense

00:41:22 --> 00:41:25

of obedience, and our sense of respect.

00:41:26 --> 00:41:29

So this is again, something which is natural in man, and he has to

00:41:29 --> 00:41:33

keep on reminding himself of his loyalty. God says, If you accept

00:41:33 --> 00:41:37

me then bow down before me. Otherwise the human values wither

00:41:37 --> 00:41:40

away. And at some point, people say that we accept moral values

00:41:40 --> 00:41:43

and leave the rest. So it's necessary to remind yourself of

00:41:43 --> 00:41:49

this. So he's very much aware of the Bennett's type of anti Nubian

00:41:49 --> 00:41:53

spirituality, even practicing some forms of vicar was ethos and so

00:41:53 --> 00:41:56

forth. But without being able to cross the ego to the extent that

00:41:56 --> 00:42:00

one follows the outward, Muhammad and forms.

00:42:02 --> 00:42:08

So the two brothers looking for a che England is not going to supply

00:42:08 --> 00:42:13

them with one. But they have the bug, the issue, the yearning.

00:42:14 --> 00:42:17

So the older brother William starts traveling, rather as

00:42:17 --> 00:42:21

Bennett did, he goes to Turkey into Syria, looking for Mevlevi

00:42:22 --> 00:42:24

after all, you reading roommate you want to find a Mevlevi shape,

00:42:24 --> 00:42:29

but by this time, Ataturk has closed it. The main lodge that

00:42:29 --> 00:42:33

Bennett wants attended in Istanbul is a police station, and so forth.

00:42:34 --> 00:42:37

In Syria, the middle of his of that, but it's under French

00:42:37 --> 00:42:40

occupation, there's a lot of persecution of the Sufis that.

00:42:41 --> 00:42:45

So William actually went to Switzerland and metric of shoe on

00:42:45 --> 00:42:49

well known comparative religionist, who died about 20

00:42:49 --> 00:42:54

years ago and the first members of Sean's community.

00:42:56 --> 00:43:01

Together, they went to Egypt, where it may be presumed that they

00:43:01 --> 00:43:07

met going on again or when he took on Islam, decided he was going to

00:43:07 --> 00:43:13

live in an Islamic context, attend Thickers he married daughter of

00:43:13 --> 00:43:17

Arlene family of Cairo, and never I think left

00:43:19 --> 00:43:23

left Egypt again, he had no particular interest in doing so

00:43:23 --> 00:43:25

they are associating with these

00:43:26 --> 00:43:30

intellectuals who are interested in some sort of perennial truth

00:43:30 --> 00:43:34

underlying all religions. But they're not really seeking a

00:43:34 --> 00:43:38

complex metaphysical philosophy, but neither of them are

00:43:38 --> 00:43:41

metaphysicians. And if you read, Shaheed Allah's works, you can see

00:43:41 --> 00:43:46

it's very much practical and inspirational. It's about taking

00:43:46 --> 00:43:50

the disciple directly to God without dialectics.

00:43:52 --> 00:43:55

Neither are they looking for something that will unite the

00:43:55 --> 00:43:59

religion somehow. They're only looking for God. That's their

00:43:59 --> 00:44:01

intention, they want to come to God.

00:44:02 --> 00:44:07

Now, the father in England had been friends with a posh Indian

00:44:07 --> 00:44:08

than the wife of Bahawalpur.

00:44:10 --> 00:44:13

He owned property in North London quite close to the Leonard house.

00:44:14 --> 00:44:18

Some members of his quality suite are also in London. This is a

00:44:18 --> 00:44:23

Saudi Mohamed Han. That was in 1966. And if you look at old BBC

00:44:23 --> 00:44:27

footage of the coronation in 1953, you can see him there looking very

00:44:28 --> 00:44:29

splendid.

00:44:30 --> 00:44:32

If you can imagine a traditional

00:44:33 --> 00:44:38

Indian or Pakistani, bridegroom's outfit, you know, the thing is

00:44:38 --> 00:44:42

pointy shoes, turbans. Therefore, if you multiply that by 10, you've

00:44:42 --> 00:44:45

got the Nawab of Bahawalpur, kind of the queen is looking a bit

00:44:45 --> 00:44:47

dowdy by comparison, this guy's

00:44:49 --> 00:44:50

upstaging the bride

00:44:52 --> 00:44:55

and the families is still going, although of course, Bahawalpur

00:44:55 --> 00:44:59

absorbed into Pakistan. Palace is still no I think, Noor mahal

00:45:00 --> 00:45:01

interesting kinds of place.

00:45:02 --> 00:45:06

And the words grand Sal is still around Salahuddin.

00:45:07 --> 00:45:10

He invites the interesting boys to India,

00:45:12 --> 00:45:17

Egypt, their mind Furnitureland, Syria, Turkey, come to India. And

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19

that's what they do. For some reason they don't travel together,

00:45:19 --> 00:45:20

they travel separately.

00:45:22 --> 00:45:25

But they don't know where to begin, then the web doesn't really

00:45:25 --> 00:45:29

move in the kind of circles that they want to meet. He's in clubs

00:45:29 --> 00:45:31

and so forth and playing Polo.

00:45:32 --> 00:45:36

That's not what they want. So they begin a process of kind of

00:45:36 --> 00:45:39

wandering around as seekers without having any contact or

00:45:39 --> 00:45:45

addresses. Now, interestingly, 3d goes off to an ashram in Bangor,

00:45:45 --> 00:45:51

all sorts of ashram, which is run by Rabindranath Tagore and his

00:45:51 --> 00:45:54

experiences to go and his community is an interesting

00:45:54 --> 00:45:59

milestone in his development. The place is called Shantiniketan,

00:46:00 --> 00:46:04

which the Tagore family had founded, which is now morphed

00:46:04 --> 00:46:06

still under the influence of the kind of presiding spirit of

00:46:06 --> 00:46:11

Tagore, it's a university now near Calcutta. And this is where to go

00:46:11 --> 00:46:15

at some of his well known works to go after all the very first non

00:46:15 --> 00:46:19

western ever to win the Nobel Prize for Literature, friend of

00:46:19 --> 00:46:24

Yeats, and Elliot liked him and sort of liked him and short

00:46:24 --> 00:46:28

stories, poetry, and also an artist and a kind of

00:46:29 --> 00:46:33

syncretistic Indic. philosopher, he actually wrote the national

00:46:33 --> 00:46:37

anthem of India and also the national anthem of Bangladesh,

00:46:37 --> 00:46:40

which is interesting. If anybody's written to national anthems, it's

00:46:40 --> 00:46:44

kind of counterintuitive, but that was what he did. Now, what's

00:46:44 --> 00:46:49

really interesting is that in that period, pre partition and pre BJP

00:46:49 --> 00:46:52

and pre contemporary tensions,

00:46:53 --> 00:46:58

the overlap space between the Hindu and the Muslim and all of

00:46:58 --> 00:47:01

the other groups, particularly in Bengal, which has always been the

00:47:01 --> 00:47:04

kind of intellectual center of India as well as for a long time

00:47:04 --> 00:47:07

the political center because East England India Company made

00:47:07 --> 00:47:09

Calcutta the company

00:47:11 --> 00:47:16

then Google is where you get all of the good stuff, silk, opium,

00:47:17 --> 00:47:19

whatever the company wants to traffic in.

00:47:20 --> 00:47:25

So the East is where it's at. And the two goals are big landowners.

00:47:26 --> 00:47:29

But very interesting representatives of a kind of

00:47:29 --> 00:47:32

Indian that you don't encounter so much these days.

00:47:33 --> 00:47:34

To go as father

00:47:36 --> 00:47:41

knew a lot of Sufi poetry by heart. Persian was really the

00:47:41 --> 00:47:45

language of the Indian elite, even the Hindu led at the time. And

00:47:45 --> 00:47:49

hard to imagine that now but a lot of poetry, a lot of newspapers in

00:47:49 --> 00:47:51

Persian, were being founded by Hindus

00:47:54 --> 00:47:59

and was also the founder of something called the Brahmo Samaj,

00:47:59 --> 00:48:04

which is a kind of Indian post Hindu Unitarian movement,

00:48:07 --> 00:48:10

which was originating in the teachings of somebody called

00:48:10 --> 00:48:12

Rammohan. Moy right in the 18th century,

00:48:14 --> 00:48:18

who had been again of Hindu background, but he studied in the

00:48:18 --> 00:48:22

madrasa in Patna new a lot of animal qalam, apparently, dressed

00:48:22 --> 00:48:27

as a Muslim love the Sufi traditions of tolerance. The idea

00:48:27 --> 00:48:31

of that elite at the time, the so called Mobile Brahmins, was that

00:48:31 --> 00:48:34

in the Sufi context, you find a sort of tolerance that in the very

00:48:34 --> 00:48:40

tight, rule bound universe of immobile, sort of traditional

00:48:40 --> 00:48:44

Hindu religion, you can't find even somebody from a slightly

00:48:44 --> 00:48:48

different caste or attributed to a different temple. So often fierce

00:48:48 --> 00:48:53

rivalries where Sufism with its apparent with unification, very

00:48:53 --> 00:48:56

ecstatic outlook seemed to be a wonderful alternative to that.

00:48:58 --> 00:49:00

In the 20th century, it tended to be something like communism or

00:49:00 --> 00:49:04

secularism or republicanism. But the 18th and 19th century for the

00:49:04 --> 00:49:07

Hindu elite. It was Sufism that looked like the interesting

00:49:08 --> 00:49:13

alternative or escape hatch from the iron cages of the caste

00:49:13 --> 00:49:13

system.

00:49:15 --> 00:49:15

So

00:49:17 --> 00:49:19

Rammohan Moy Roy founds this movement, which is still very

00:49:19 --> 00:49:22

active and is considered to be the first kind of Hindu reform

00:49:22 --> 00:49:25

movement. He was interested in Unitarian Christianity who didn't

00:49:25 --> 00:49:29

think the Trinity was interesting, but he liked the Unitarians

00:49:30 --> 00:49:34

devoted his retirement really to the study of Rumi's Masnavi and

00:49:34 --> 00:49:38

also the the Vedanta wrote a book Tophet and we're heading

00:49:39 --> 00:49:42

interesting so somebody who is still a Bradman, writing a book in

00:49:42 --> 00:49:46

Persian called Tophet and was heading the gift of the

00:49:46 --> 00:49:51

monotheist. So against caste, against the God man syndrome and

00:49:51 --> 00:49:55

the exploitations commonly attributed to it against

00:49:55 --> 00:49:59

polytheism more or less against reincarnation, although not

00:49:59 --> 00:49:59

necessarily to

00:50:00 --> 00:50:04

So this mutates in various ways, splits in various ways and becomes

00:50:04 --> 00:50:08

something called the ADDIE Dharma, which is now the ninth largest

00:50:08 --> 00:50:11

religion in India. It's recognized as separate religion. Bangladesh

00:50:11 --> 00:50:14

also recognizes it as a separate religion. It's not considered to

00:50:14 --> 00:50:20

be Hindu any longer. So monotheism, no god men, no caste,

00:50:20 --> 00:50:22

it obviously reflects this Sufi influence.

00:50:23 --> 00:50:27

And his belief really was to cause further belief was that Hindu law

00:50:28 --> 00:50:32

and institutions were corrupt, and only English law or Islamic law

00:50:32 --> 00:50:34

could ever unite India.

00:50:37 --> 00:50:44

Also, this kind of Vedantic Sufi half is thing. The syncretism was

00:50:44 --> 00:50:48

motivated by a fondness for the bowel musicians this kind of

00:50:48 --> 00:50:52

wandering, multifaith Minstrel, sometimes quite outrageous, which

00:50:52 --> 00:50:55

you still encounter in parts of Bengal.

00:50:56 --> 00:50:57

So

00:51:02 --> 00:51:07

to go had a number of friends so this is when we're struggling to

00:51:07 --> 00:51:11

understand why somebody who's converted to Islam through Sufism

00:51:11 --> 00:51:15

and is full of the zeal of a convert wants to go to this Brahmo

00:51:15 --> 00:51:18

Samaj sort of sub Hindu place where there aren't many Muslims.

00:51:21 --> 00:51:25

It's interesting to note that one of the poets who are associated in

00:51:25 --> 00:51:28

this Persian speaking world with Tagore Allah Mustafa wrote things

00:51:28 --> 00:51:31

like this. There are great similarities and contents and

00:51:31 --> 00:51:34

ideals of what poet Emperor Rabindranath has expressed in his

00:51:34 --> 00:51:38

lyrics. Any Muslim can accept these concepts without hesitation.

00:51:39 --> 00:51:42

No other person of Bengali language has ever uttered these

00:51:42 --> 00:51:45

expressions of Muslim heart. We did not find any hostility towards

00:51:45 --> 00:51:49

Islam in the vast literature produced by Tagore. On the

00:51:49 --> 00:51:52

contrary, there is so much of Islamic content and ideals in his

00:51:52 --> 00:51:56

writings that he can be called a Muslim without hesitation. It's

00:51:56 --> 00:51:59

not too much to say that the concepts of idolatry, pluralism,

00:51:59 --> 00:52:02

atheism, reincarnation, renunciation, etc, which are

00:52:02 --> 00:52:06

considered as totally opposed to Islam are also non existent in his

00:52:06 --> 00:52:07

writings.

00:52:11 --> 00:52:16

To go particularly fond, not only of the messenger V, but of Hafez

00:52:17 --> 00:52:20

and if you go to that university now you can see the bell which

00:52:20 --> 00:52:24

called everybody to their morning prayers, morning meditation really

00:52:24 --> 00:52:28

has carved into it a famous bait or nine by half his

00:52:29 --> 00:52:33

mother or daughter, Monza leejohn on she on the ice, turn her down.

00:52:33 --> 00:52:36

Giraffes Faryab Midata que para bandied Maha mailhot.

00:52:38 --> 00:52:42

What security enjoy is there for me at the beloved waystation when

00:52:42 --> 00:52:45

every moment the bell clangs fasten on the camel, that is

00:52:45 --> 00:52:50

belts. Life is like a caravan. We're heading for the next world.

00:52:50 --> 00:52:54

And the belts or the bells associated with a caravan our

00:52:54 --> 00:52:58

vicar recollection prayer, meditation, anything that reminds

00:52:58 --> 00:53:02

us that this is not our permanent abode. That's the kind of thought

00:53:03 --> 00:53:06

so a very different world where the the kind of Brahmanical elites

00:53:06 --> 00:53:11

that nowadays for moody, used to prefer reading Persian to reading

00:53:11 --> 00:53:15

Sanskrit would often dress like Sufis, and it's very kind of

00:53:15 --> 00:53:20

transitional universe and of course, taken a broad historical

00:53:20 --> 00:53:25

picture. It was that transitional space that allowed large transfers

00:53:26 --> 00:53:32

of, of Hindus into Islam over the centuries. It's these guys these

00:53:33 --> 00:53:38

stepping stones that are enabling it. So at the age of 22. Here is

00:53:38 --> 00:53:41

the young kind of well, it's not the hippie age, but he's a seeker

00:53:42 --> 00:53:46

gone to India, on what later became the hippie trail. And he

00:53:46 --> 00:53:51

spends three months at this Shantiniketan place. And later on

00:53:51 --> 00:53:55

in life he was asked about his time with Tagore. This is what he

00:53:55 --> 00:53:55

said.

00:53:57 --> 00:54:00

He knew all about the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was

00:54:00 --> 00:54:03

not ignorant of him at all, because his father was a great

00:54:03 --> 00:54:07

expert on Persian poetry was a linguist a cultured person. His

00:54:07 --> 00:54:11

special study was Persian poetry Hafez and Rumi. So who is well

00:54:11 --> 00:54:15

acquainted with the whole attitude of true Sufis, this Sufi influence

00:54:15 --> 00:54:17

had come into goes work is a reflection of what he learned

00:54:17 --> 00:54:18

after someof.

00:54:19 --> 00:54:23

One might say he did express his respect for the Prophet sallallahu

00:54:23 --> 00:54:26

alayhi wasallam. I think Tagore started readings from all the

00:54:26 --> 00:54:30

sacred books every morning before Ghandi came into prominence, he

00:54:30 --> 00:54:34

had a temple of worship, but not of any particular religion. And in

00:54:34 --> 00:54:38

that every morning, they all used to assemble that. And a Hindu used

00:54:38 --> 00:54:41

to read from the Bhagavad Gita, a Muslim used to read out of the

00:54:41 --> 00:54:44

Quran, or the Christian used to read out of the Bible and so on.

00:54:44 --> 00:54:47

This was done as a ceremony every morning.

00:54:48 --> 00:54:52

But it seems that he thought that to go is a bit of an ego.

00:54:54 --> 00:54:57

And also that he had this idea that he somehow himself had the

00:54:57 --> 00:55:00

right to transcend the particulars of religion.

00:55:00 --> 00:55:04

Imagine, which were all part of a perennial and universal truth and

00:55:04 --> 00:55:08

didn't really need to be bound by any of those paths. So later on,

00:55:09 --> 00:55:11

for Ed says this

00:55:12 --> 00:55:17

is a great claim. And all the religions are parallel paths to

00:55:17 --> 00:55:21

the same destination. It's a great claim, whether he can prove this

00:55:21 --> 00:55:25

claim is another matter. Anyway, it is a wrong claim because nobody

00:55:25 --> 00:55:29

rises above while he is living in the body. He is subject to the

00:55:29 --> 00:55:32

limitations of the body he's living in the mental world is

00:55:32 --> 00:55:35

subject to all limitations of the human body, how can you claim to

00:55:35 --> 00:55:40

have risen above anyway, he may be forgiven, to go spoke of one God

00:55:40 --> 00:55:42

and of the love of God and he stated that he respected the

00:55:42 --> 00:55:46

prophet in the Quran, although he maintained that he respected the

00:55:46 --> 00:55:50

others too. So these people and how they will be treated, we can't

00:55:50 --> 00:55:54

place them in any category. There may be people of that are off

00:55:54 --> 00:55:57

people who are sitting on the division divided, dividing wall

00:55:57 --> 00:56:01

with * on the side and Paradise on that side. They are wishing to

00:56:01 --> 00:56:04

enter the Janet, but they have not yet done so.

00:56:05 --> 00:56:11

And later on about the idea of perennialism. He says this. Some

00:56:11 --> 00:56:14

unconventional people claim that all religions are one that

00:56:14 --> 00:56:18

teachings principles are all the same. It is true to some extent

00:56:18 --> 00:56:21

that the basic principles of unity and righteousness are the same.

00:56:22 --> 00:56:25

The basic mistake is that they are not aware that in each era, Allah

00:56:25 --> 00:56:29

has colored his message with a different hue. The present age is

00:56:29 --> 00:56:32

imbued with the beneficent of the noble Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa

00:56:32 --> 00:56:37

sallam. The old books of piracy or Hindu religion may be correct, but

00:56:37 --> 00:56:40

the outpouring of divine inspiration is not found there any

00:56:40 --> 00:56:43

longer. They are like dry rivers.

00:56:44 --> 00:56:49

So Lenin quits the ashram he sees it as idealistic, but driven by a

00:56:49 --> 00:56:54

kind of well meaning aesthetic syncretism that proposes a truth

00:56:54 --> 00:56:57

transcending the religions that actually seems rather miss misty

00:56:57 --> 00:56:58

and vague.

00:57:00 --> 00:57:06

So he is propelled still by this issue. Somewhere else in India,

00:57:06 --> 00:57:09

he's going to find what he seeks. And

00:57:11 --> 00:57:15

I want to read some Rumi today, going to indulge myself

00:57:17 --> 00:57:20

where you see the apparent

00:57:21 --> 00:57:23

universalism and Rumi and what it actually means.

00:57:25 --> 00:57:30

Marhaba aisb wholesaled IMO a tabi Jun, LAN Latoya.

00:57:32 --> 00:57:37

Welcome. Delightful, sweet beloved love.

00:57:38 --> 00:57:42

Oh, the cure for all my illnesses.

00:57:44 --> 00:57:49

A de via Nakba, to normal same on a tour of la toma, Jolene awesome

00:57:49 --> 00:57:58

art. You are the medicine for my pride and for my strictness. You

00:57:58 --> 00:58:01

are my Plato, you are my

00:58:03 --> 00:58:04

Galen.

00:58:05 --> 00:58:10

Just macaque as a flock you should call the rocks Ahmad or Chuck

00:58:10 --> 00:58:10

should.

00:58:12 --> 00:58:17

This body which is of clay, through love has reached the

00:58:17 --> 00:58:17

heavens.

00:58:19 --> 00:58:24

The mountains have begun to dance, even though they remain conscious.

00:58:26 --> 00:58:30

And Charlotte asked khatoun, Belfer asked healthy Jews Marshall

00:58:30 --> 00:58:32

bhave Joomla soft.

00:58:34 --> 00:58:37

passionate love is a burning spark.

00:58:39 --> 00:58:40

And when it

00:58:42 --> 00:58:47

blazes, it burns everything, except that the beloved is unhurt.

00:58:47 --> 00:58:49

Everything else is on fire.

00:58:51 --> 00:58:56

darlin noggin John Tartikoff to show need a stereo East ah our

00:58:56 --> 00:58:57

rush not padded.

00:58:59 --> 00:59:02

Love if contained

00:59:03 --> 00:59:11

and not expressed with the tongue is an ocean which has which is so

00:59:11 --> 00:59:13

deep that it has no bottom

00:59:15 --> 00:59:20

shadow her a Scotsman that go young Bertha von sadly armet

00:59:20 --> 00:59:22

bagels rot on not among

00:59:25 --> 00:59:26

the passion of love.

00:59:27 --> 00:59:32

If I was able to speak of it constantly

00:59:33 --> 00:59:38

100 days of judgment would come and I would still not have time to

00:59:38 --> 00:59:40

complete what I want to say.

00:59:42 --> 00:59:47

Asha V pi dust Azaria deal needs to be more each will be more

00:59:47 --> 00:59:48

ideal.

00:59:51 --> 00:59:56

Love to be a lover comes from the suffering and the wailing of the

00:59:56 --> 00:59:59

heart. There is no earthly sickness that

01:00:00 --> 01:00:03

and rival the pain of that is in the heart.

01:00:05 --> 01:00:09

bility ash as hammer Dean hardwood asked our Shavon Ron was heavy

01:00:09 --> 01:00:11

will lead to dust.

01:00:13 --> 01:00:18

The religion of lovers is separate from all other religions. For

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lovers madhhab and Miller are God Himself.

01:00:24 --> 01:00:27

Sounds like the kind of thing to Gore and Bennett and so forth

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would quite like they're following the religion of love separate from

01:00:32 --> 01:00:33

the other religions.

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But of course we know from Rumi that he prayed and preached in the

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Great Mosque in Konya and was, somebody said mon Bundy or an

01:00:45 --> 01:00:50

Edgar Johnny daarom been hog era he Mohammed a Mokhtar Ron and the

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slave of the Quran. For as long as I draw breath, I'm dust beneath

01:00:53 --> 01:00:55

the feet of the chosen one

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followed a tradition.

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So this is what motivates shahidul Not to leave this nice but rather

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wooly ashram

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to continue so he goes next to the town of murals perhaps because

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some of the Baja while poor, the web's courtiers are living there.

01:01:19 --> 01:01:24

But it's also possible that you remember from last time Idris

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father's Shah Silva Akbar Ali Shah has written the first Muslim

01:01:28 --> 01:01:32

oriented book on Sufism in English has a house that Val Manziel so it

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may be that there were connections there that he was

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looking for.

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In any case, he then goes to Delhi and goes to the Mazhar and his

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Ahmed in Alia.

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And here he says he found tremendous spiritual strengthening

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and peace. He'd been in a state of commotion, looking and not finding

01:01:52 --> 01:01:55

and here, he finds himself grounded and centered again.

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He goes in the direction of Bahawalpur. So he's heading west

01:02:02 --> 01:02:07

now to a place called Dara Navab. And this is a big kind of Chishti

01:02:07 --> 01:02:10

stronghold in the subcontinent. And there he meets up with his

01:02:10 --> 01:02:15

older brother, who has also been wandering around in the realm of

01:02:15 --> 01:02:18

RP meet somebody who becomes a lifelong friend and

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his successor, Captain Wahid Bosch, and they, the three of them

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discussed Sufism late into the night and agreed that whoever

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found the true mercy of the true guide first would tell the others

01:02:33 --> 01:02:37

well, eight bucks, knows the terrain somewhat and he suggests

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Maulana Ashraf Ali Tanvi, the great Deobandi scholar head of the

01:02:43 --> 01:02:48

Dale band school and a great Sufi Chishti, slobbery lover of Rumi

01:02:48 --> 01:02:51

looks promising. So they take the train to Sahara and pour, the

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Hanvey meets them at the station. And they talked him at length in

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order via an interpreter.

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The older brother, federal Kappa, this time is called Farrokh is a

01:03:04 --> 01:03:08

little bit it likes him, but it's a little bit taken aback by what

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he takes to be his strictness and his formalism. So they're both in

01:03:13 --> 01:03:15

a state of indecision, shall we shouldn't we?

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And then Shahidullah has a dream in which you see somebody else

01:03:20 --> 01:03:21

with a little girl.

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And this, somebody else's your share is with me. You're part of

01:03:28 --> 01:03:33

Dean as well as dunya. This is a very famous vision in the Tariqa.

01:03:33 --> 01:03:37

So the leaves are important leave their band and continue to Roma,

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but they didn't know what to do. They go to Lahore,

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course with various famous Musonda, Dr. Gundry box, they live

01:03:46 --> 01:03:49

there, they look for teacher, they can't find anybody there for

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several months. So then they decided this is not working. It's

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difficult in India.

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We're not really part of either world. We certainly don't go to

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the club and clap for a bearer. But neither really are we part of

01:04:03 --> 01:04:06

the Indian thing with fish out of water. They decide to go back to

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England. The mission is not accomplished. So they go to take

01:04:10 --> 01:04:16

ship in Bombay buy their tickets. And then while they're waiting for

01:04:16 --> 01:04:19

the ship to sail, they go to the Muslim Quarter and they go into a

01:04:19 --> 01:04:23

mosque to pray us together. Obviously, everybody notices them

01:04:23 --> 01:04:25

because they're both over six feet tall.

01:04:26 --> 01:04:29

So people are kind of looking and then somebody comes over to them.

01:04:31 --> 01:04:32

After the prayer

01:04:33 --> 01:04:37

in engaging them in conversation, the Imam talks to them. And he

01:04:37 --> 01:04:40

says, Oh, well, I have a teacher. You should meet him before you

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leave India say Mohammed xLP shot of Hyderabad.

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He's in Hyderabad at the time. So they basically tear up their

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tickets and take a train instead of the boat and they go to

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Hyderabad, long, difficult journey. And that's where they

01:04:57 --> 01:05:00

meet him and of course for Ed recognizes that

01:05:00 --> 01:05:05

must be exactly the man that is seen in his dream. And luckily xLP

01:05:05 --> 01:05:10

sharp knows English, actually really well. He's been to Aligarh

01:05:10 --> 01:05:15

is part of that part of modern Indian Muslim world

01:05:16 --> 01:05:23

as it is already well known, he's quite close to Jinnah. He knows a

01:05:23 --> 01:05:28

cabal pretty well as part of that Indian Muslim elite Shotcut ally.

01:05:29 --> 01:05:35

Highly educated, very neat and dapper, very disciplined, divides

01:05:35 --> 01:05:41

his day very precisely, an expert on music and poetry, initiated and

01:05:41 --> 01:05:45

authorized to take disciples in the four major hubs. The four

01:05:45 --> 01:05:48

great therapists of the subcontinent the NOC Bundys

01:05:48 --> 01:05:52

Srishti, Saba is the CADRE and the sovereign awardees.

01:05:54 --> 01:05:59

So finally, you know, just when they thought they were defeated,

01:05:59 --> 01:06:03

and who knows how they would have continued in England, Providence

01:06:03 --> 01:06:06

has brought them to what they had intended.

01:06:08 --> 01:06:10

They wanted it beta, of course, this

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the man is a saint, and they see the signs of that all the time,

01:06:14 --> 01:06:19

and they feel so improved by just his loss. One of the important

01:06:19 --> 01:06:23

principles of the Chishti Salisbury principle is just the

01:06:23 --> 01:06:27

shape looking at the meridian Shahidullah was also able to help

01:06:27 --> 01:06:31

people just just with a glance, so they're really benefiting, they're

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staying in his house.

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But they're not offered the bait. The chef is watching them, testing

01:06:37 --> 01:06:37

them.

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Who exactly are they?

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And he thinks, Well, maybe they're like other seekers, or people who

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come to the pier, because they want something. Maybe they want to

01:06:50 --> 01:06:51

see miracles.

01:06:52 --> 01:06:56

Or maybe they want the prestige of belonging to a famous terracotta

01:06:56 --> 01:06:59

he's well aware of the fact that most people who think they want

01:06:59 --> 01:07:05

God actually are in it for some ego thing. So he just kind of

01:07:05 --> 01:07:09

maintains a watching brief. Are they looking for God? Or are they

01:07:09 --> 01:07:12

just looking for a way of being

01:07:13 --> 01:07:20

but on the third of October 1938, he grants the BR important moment,

01:07:20 --> 01:07:25

because he realizes that Shaheed or not is only interested in God.

01:07:25 --> 01:07:28

That's his intention, he wants to be close to his Lord.

01:07:29 --> 01:07:30

So

01:07:32 --> 01:07:36

let's read from one of Shahid Allah's later writings here so

01:07:36 --> 01:07:40

that you hear from him directly rather than from

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me Yeah, about the

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the need for a teacher but the reason why some people find it

01:07:48 --> 01:07:49

difficult.

01:07:54 --> 01:07:57

I found chiefly that it's a sort of arrogance of temperament that

01:07:57 --> 01:08:00

some people call themselves the devotees and slaves of the noble

01:08:00 --> 01:08:04

prophet. But they're too arrogant to accept any living person as

01:08:04 --> 01:08:07

anyone greater than themselves. They want to keep their neck stiff

01:08:07 --> 01:08:10

all the time and don't want to bend it before anybody living.

01:08:11 --> 01:08:12

This is arrogance and pride.

01:08:14 --> 01:08:19

They say why should you venerate these people? And then they go to

01:08:19 --> 01:08:23

extremes and say you worship them which of course we don't. Nobody

01:08:23 --> 01:08:26

worships has any respect, which is due to a master nothing more than

01:08:26 --> 01:08:30

that. One has to humble himself before living teacher. I don't

01:08:30 --> 01:08:33

mean to say that he has to become completely humiliated and

01:08:33 --> 01:08:36

disgraced and degraded. That is not the idea. He humbles himself

01:08:36 --> 01:08:39

to the extent that he admits before him that I don't know and

01:08:39 --> 01:08:44

you know, that I'm incompetent and you are competent. This much, that

01:08:44 --> 01:08:47

is all just to accept that somebody knows more than you

01:08:47 --> 01:08:51

somebody who can teach you except that he is a grade above you that

01:08:51 --> 01:08:51

all

01:08:52 --> 01:08:55

people will have this pride within them hide it in so many arguments

01:08:55 --> 01:08:58

that really it's the pride that they don't want to accept anyone

01:08:58 --> 01:09:00

who is greater than themselves.

01:09:01 --> 01:09:05

But those words of course still still apply. We've all got our

01:09:05 --> 01:09:09

noses in the air so he stays in Hyderabad with the chef for almost

01:09:09 --> 01:09:09

a year.

01:09:11 --> 01:09:14

A lot of discipline. This is a hard School of Sufism.

01:09:16 --> 01:09:20

Early morning thicker. A lot of Ziad that, a lot of fasting

01:09:22 --> 01:09:25

he spends all of Ramadan in the marshes house they read to just

01:09:25 --> 01:09:30

have the Quran every night. The oddest commemorations really

01:09:30 --> 01:09:33

important for the church to to this day, that discipline of

01:09:35 --> 01:09:38

obliging oneself for me to remember God every 10 minutes.

01:09:40 --> 01:09:45

And of course, that the difficulty of living in a country with people

01:09:45 --> 01:09:48

who are impoverished is very often sick.

01:09:49 --> 01:09:52

Often loses weight quite disastrously is almost a skeleton

01:09:52 --> 01:09:56

at times that people are worried about him about the two of them.

01:09:58 --> 01:09:59

No air conditioning temperature, maybe

01:10:00 --> 01:10:04

50 Plus, in the summer, he's not going to go to similar to hang out

01:10:04 --> 01:10:08

with chaps at the hill station. He's gone native.

01:10:10 --> 01:10:13

And then of course, the Second World War starts and he goes to

01:10:13 --> 01:10:15

join the army in Bahawalpur.

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And they are both commissioned as lieutenants.

01:10:22 --> 01:10:25

This helps him a little bit to recover from some of the recurrent

01:10:25 --> 01:10:26

fevers which is had

01:10:28 --> 01:10:33

and he uses the opportunity in the army to learn Arabic, Persian and

01:10:33 --> 01:10:34

Oriental.

01:10:35 --> 01:10:39

Later on when he married his wife helps him to master order as well.

01:10:39 --> 01:10:42

So towards the end of his life, he wasn't speaking English very much.

01:10:42 --> 01:10:45

Although he said he used to pray in English interestingly, mcdyess

01:10:45 --> 01:10:48

in English, but his classes were all in order. He also learnt

01:10:48 --> 01:10:50

Punjabi and pastoral, apparently

01:10:52 --> 01:10:54

1945 The war is over his demobbed.

01:10:56 --> 01:10:59

Then of course, partition and synergy, I've got a few

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photographs of him, you might want to pass these around. I didn't

01:11:01 --> 01:11:05

bother with the PowerPoint, but they're quite evocative, just a

01:11:05 --> 01:11:12

few 3047 partition, he moves to Karachi, where he starts a

01:11:12 --> 01:11:16

business is the tradition to sell off, of course, not to be a

01:11:16 --> 01:11:19

dependent monk, but to work.

01:11:22 --> 01:11:25

starts in paper, of course, that's the family business, blanket

01:11:25 --> 01:11:30

factory. His father who is observing all of this with both of

01:11:30 --> 01:11:34

his son's with kind of horror, father's really rich, since isn't

01:11:34 --> 01:11:37

the money, but he refuses it, he sends it back again, from the

01:11:37 --> 01:11:43

bank. Then his father sends him 50 taxes so he can start a taxi

01:11:43 --> 01:11:46

business. Then he realizes that,

01:11:47 --> 01:11:53

given local corruption, if he actually pays his Pakistan tax

01:11:53 --> 01:11:57

bill, on the taxes, he's going to make a loss. The only way he can

01:11:57 --> 01:12:00

run that business is if his corrupt and he refuses to do that.

01:12:00 --> 01:12:02

So the taxes just get given away.

01:12:04 --> 01:12:09

At this point, Pakistan exists he renounces his British citizenship

01:12:09 --> 01:12:11

and becomes a Pakistani national.

01:12:13 --> 01:12:15

So what's happening to the older brother? Well, the older brothers

01:12:15 --> 01:12:19

is William Matthew Leonard known in the family as Pat.

01:12:20 --> 01:12:24

He's also taken the bait art a little bit later than the younger

01:12:24 --> 01:12:24

brother.

01:12:28 --> 01:12:31

But there seems to be difficulty in having it right away, because

01:12:32 --> 01:12:36

it seems that Saki Shah regards there as though as being a genuine

01:12:37 --> 01:12:41

by our connection between him and shoe on still, and he won't accept

01:12:41 --> 01:12:45

him as a disciple if there's still that connection. So Pat has to go

01:12:45 --> 01:12:51

to Switzerland and formally sever his connection with Shawn and his

01:12:51 --> 01:12:52

order.

01:12:54 --> 01:12:59

And he comes straight back to India. In 1940, he finally takes a

01:13:01 --> 01:13:06

while, Saki Shah, who is by this time very much in Muslim League

01:13:06 --> 01:13:10

activism and as a delegate is in Lahore for a big all India Muslim

01:13:10 --> 01:13:14

concrete Congress event. There is a girl from Meerut,

01:13:15 --> 01:13:16

but like his brother,

01:13:18 --> 01:13:21

is living in very considerable poverty and circumstances to which

01:13:21 --> 01:13:25

his metabolism finds it difficult to adjust means that he's really

01:13:25 --> 01:13:25

sick.

01:13:27 --> 01:13:31

Malaria and pneumonia. Malaria is not really curable, you can just

01:13:31 --> 01:13:32

manage the symptoms.

01:13:34 --> 01:13:39

And there's brother Shahidullah, never really accustomed himself to

01:13:39 --> 01:13:43

the local food. He's digested and never quite gets used to it and is

01:13:43 --> 01:13:49

often in a state of indigestion and as I said, becomes very thin.

01:13:50 --> 01:13:56

So, Pat is finally taken to hospital in Lahore. 1945. really

01:13:56 --> 01:14:00

ill seems to be on his deathbed and his younger brothers

01:14:00 --> 01:14:05

constantly. It is his bedside, not not eating, not leaving the

01:14:05 --> 01:14:07

hospital for days doing vicar.

01:14:08 --> 01:14:08

And then

01:14:09 --> 01:14:14

his condition worsens. Finally Shahidullah has persuaded you

01:14:14 --> 01:14:18

can't stay indefinitely, just by your brother. So it goes out but

01:14:18 --> 01:14:23

then a phone call, calls him back and his brother Farrokh has died.

01:14:24 --> 01:14:29

And so he sits by the bed with his brother's body there and wondering

01:14:30 --> 01:14:33

whether maybe he has made a mistake coming to India is such a

01:14:33 --> 01:14:34

horrible disaster.

01:14:36 --> 01:14:43

But then he has a vision. He sees the only app around his bed in the

01:14:43 --> 01:14:47

presence of the Holy Prophet and this is a true Dream Vision stays

01:14:47 --> 01:14:49

with him for the rest of his life and that's a kind of consolation

01:14:49 --> 01:14:50

for him.

01:14:53 --> 01:14:58

The two are kind of known in Lahore and a local civil servant

01:14:58 --> 01:14:59

who has a kind of reserved

01:15:00 --> 01:15:05

To grave spot in that bizarre complex, foot weary office in his

01:15:05 --> 01:15:09

space, and so far oak is buried there, pretty close to hedge wiry,

01:15:09 --> 01:15:11

and to this day if you

01:15:12 --> 01:15:17

if you know how to find your way through the complex, which is very

01:15:17 --> 01:15:23

subtle place, you can find the two of Faruk, Saab, the Englishman,

01:15:23 --> 01:15:27

Pat Leonard, who is buried as a Muslim, Pierre and people come

01:15:27 --> 01:15:28

from the era.

01:15:29 --> 01:15:36

So that's a that's a blow. Because they'd been very close 3046 At the

01:15:36 --> 01:15:41

age of 31, he gets married. His marshes daughter Rasheeda.

01:15:41 --> 01:15:47

Remember the dream. So the marine Ozma Sharif, this had been on the

01:15:47 --> 01:15:50

cards for some time. And it's clear that this was the little

01:15:50 --> 01:15:55

girl that had originally seen with xLP shark in his initial dream in

01:15:55 --> 01:15:56

Delhi.

01:15:58 --> 01:16:01

And it had been on the cards for some time, but clearly a sign of

01:16:01 --> 01:16:06

the chef's respect for him. And later, she used to say that once

01:16:06 --> 01:16:10

were in the house, she was coming downstairs. He looked at her twice

01:16:11 --> 01:16:13

before the amount looked at her twice. And so she went to her

01:16:13 --> 01:16:15

father complaining, say, Well, who are these people who have in your

01:16:15 --> 01:16:19

house and kind of looking at the daughters of the house. And after

01:16:19 --> 01:16:23

they were married, he'd explained, he'd looked at her a second time

01:16:23 --> 01:16:26

to make sure that she was the same woman that he'd seen in the dream

01:16:28 --> 01:16:31

is always a very attentive husband. When they had a garden he

01:16:31 --> 01:16:35

would always pick flowers from the garden and put out flowers for her

01:16:36 --> 01:16:37

every day.

01:16:40 --> 01:16:44

And in his will he provided for his wife he appointed designated

01:16:44 --> 01:16:47

five Marines, who after his death would take care of her and she

01:16:47 --> 01:16:51

actually is very competent takes over most of the functions of the

01:16:51 --> 01:16:54

tourney after his death she doesn't 99 to

01:16:56 --> 01:17:01

the next event is not in 51 when Saki Shah prepares to go to their

01:17:01 --> 01:17:07

Hajj and the disciples accompany the masjid basura to Baghdad they

01:17:07 --> 01:17:12

take the train for the zero. I've recorded Gilani them.

01:17:13 --> 01:17:19

And then in Medina, specific practices very sober look, this is

01:17:19 --> 01:17:23

a sober kind of study of out. So Keisha advises just one Z Ara to

01:17:23 --> 01:17:29

the tomb every day, no more. Stand in silence. Don't ask for

01:17:29 --> 01:17:33

anything. All of that today because our hours are canceled

01:17:33 --> 01:17:37

except just for silhouette. And from us or until Asia, they will

01:17:37 --> 01:17:39

sit in the sofa that was their practice.

01:17:41 --> 01:17:47

Then, from ombre to natok Minar artifacts,

01:17:49 --> 01:17:54

all kinds of dreams, openings, joyful prayers. Zaki Shah,

01:17:54 --> 01:18:01

however, dies on Arafat on the day of Arafat. So, a climax but also

01:18:02 --> 01:18:03

calamity.

01:18:04 --> 01:18:08

So they return. And he immediately has to take on responsibilities

01:18:08 --> 01:18:10

because his wife is the only surviving member of the Schiff's

01:18:11 --> 01:18:13

family and of the sencilla.

01:18:16 --> 01:18:20

That there's no designated successor. familiar situation.

01:18:22 --> 01:18:25

We know that xLP Shah had frequently requested Shahidullah

01:18:26 --> 01:18:27

to lead the vicar circles.

01:18:29 --> 01:18:33

After his death, he was very reluctant to accept any kind of

01:18:33 --> 01:18:36

leadership responsibility. Remember the kind of guiding theme

01:18:36 --> 01:18:41

of these lectures that you know total Imara don't seek authority,

01:18:41 --> 01:18:42

the prophetic command.

01:18:43 --> 01:18:48

But then he has a dream of puppet and Sharif, where he says the

01:18:48 --> 01:18:52

great Baba Fareed showing him how to take br From people which is a

01:18:52 --> 01:18:55

specific way quite unlike a selfie chars method.

01:18:56 --> 01:19:00

And that's one reason why he has the soubriquet fair ad because he

01:19:00 --> 01:19:02

has a particular connection to

01:19:03 --> 01:19:07

Mother Fareed, and he maintains this style of taking br Which is

01:19:07 --> 01:19:09

Baba for each throughout his life.

01:19:11 --> 01:19:15

A number of other Toyoko members have dreams and visions. And so

01:19:15 --> 01:19:19

reluctantly, he agrees is going to take on this massive

01:19:19 --> 01:19:20

responsibility.

01:19:21 --> 01:19:26

Conditions for BI you have to guard the three ions. I am Arkell,

01:19:28 --> 01:19:33

knowledge, the mind, love these are the three eyes with which you

01:19:33 --> 01:19:38

perceive which have to be regulated. Now don't be shy didn't

01:19:38 --> 01:19:42

have much of a permission or a vocation for large numbers of

01:19:42 --> 01:19:47

disciples. But with Fareed it was very different and 1000s upon

01:19:47 --> 01:19:51

1000s of people mainly in Pakistan, but also in India. In

01:19:51 --> 01:19:54

rank poor in what's now Bangladesh there is still his disciples there

01:19:55 --> 01:19:59

suddenly becomes a mass mass movement.

01:20:01 --> 01:20:05

Quite often they'll come as is common to discuss worldly matters,

01:20:05 --> 01:20:08

marriage issues, what should I do with my business, he was noted for

01:20:08 --> 01:20:12

his patience with such people carried on a very extensive

01:20:12 --> 01:20:16

correspondence, some of the people from the elites, but generally it

01:20:16 --> 01:20:20

was the poor people that seem to have found his gatherings

01:20:21 --> 01:20:26

effective. So, the center of gravity now, because of partition,

01:20:27 --> 01:20:30

which has disrupted so much in Muslim India has shifted from

01:20:30 --> 01:20:35

ultrasound to puck pattern. And the kind of small house was opened

01:20:35 --> 01:20:39

for him there. Great simplicity was always his watchword. Most of

01:20:39 --> 01:20:43

his life he lived just in a single room, sitting on the floor.

01:20:44 --> 01:20:48

He's not been back to England for this time, but in 1956, his mother

01:20:48 --> 01:20:52

Ruth is very sick. So he goes back to England to see her as his first

01:20:52 --> 01:20:58

trip for 16 years. And he reported that on her deathbed, she did make

01:20:58 --> 01:21:02

her shahada thankful shortly afterwards, and she offered him

01:21:02 --> 01:21:06

some jewelry, but he refused it. He only took one small thing,

01:21:06 --> 01:21:09

which is kind of Memento just to have something to remember her by.

01:21:11 --> 01:21:13

returns to these responsibilities.

01:21:14 --> 01:21:14

And

01:21:16 --> 01:21:19

Sunday mornings were his great time for teaching,

01:21:20 --> 01:21:25

much of which took the form of D'Arcy Hadith Hadith commentary.

01:21:25 --> 01:21:28

He would also like to read the famous letters

01:21:30 --> 01:21:34

the mucked about is Saudi, the 100 letters of Sharafuddin mannery

01:21:35 --> 01:21:39

very early Sufi of North India has been translated by

01:21:40 --> 01:21:44

Paul Jackson into English. He was a disciple of Nissan that didn't

01:21:44 --> 01:21:45

hold out and

01:21:46 --> 01:21:51

very popular form of teaching in the Chishti world. Another text he

01:21:51 --> 01:21:58

liked was the RF RF of Abu Huff's. So rewarding may detect obviously

01:21:58 --> 01:22:02

for the sort of idea. And one of the great four or five best known

01:22:02 --> 01:22:06

introductory manuals to the fullness of Islam the outer form

01:22:06 --> 01:22:07

the inward meaning.

01:22:10 --> 01:22:14

After they're thicker, they will often read from the writings of

01:22:14 --> 01:22:18

Zopi sharp, and then he will provide a commentary of his own

01:22:20 --> 01:22:21

form of the vicar.

01:22:24 --> 01:22:28

Again, this is one of the books which you can't really get in this

01:22:28 --> 01:22:30

country, but which is a collection of

01:22:32 --> 01:22:36

talks that were taped and then transcribed, so the form is fairly

01:22:36 --> 01:22:37

informal.

01:22:40 --> 01:22:42

In some nice things about liquor.

01:22:45 --> 01:22:48

In surah tomb was in Mill Allah has himself commanded the Holy

01:22:48 --> 01:22:53

Prophet to remember him with chorus Murghab pika, what a battle

01:22:53 --> 01:22:59

electrotype de la remember the name of thy Lord and isolate

01:22:59 --> 01:23:01

yourself to Him in total isolation.

01:23:02 --> 01:23:06

This means to remember the name of your rub, Master Lord, he has

01:23:06 --> 01:23:10

mentioned that word NAME particularly, is not just simply

01:23:10 --> 01:23:14

said to remember a lot, but to remember the name. So, this is

01:23:14 --> 01:23:17

significant, there is some hidden purpose in taking the name,

01:23:18 --> 01:23:20

whether you take an aloud with your voice or you say it with the

01:23:20 --> 01:23:24

inner voice, which we have, we can say something with an inner voice

01:23:24 --> 01:23:27

with no outward expression. Still the name is there where words are

01:23:27 --> 01:23:32

formulated, we can formulate words in the heart to there is a

01:23:32 --> 01:23:35

definite purpose in the name. That is why to begin with people are

01:23:35 --> 01:23:39

given this teaching of repeating the name of Allah. simply

01:23:39 --> 01:23:43

repeating it as a word or a sound, of course is not the aim. The aim

01:23:43 --> 01:23:46

is to fill one's soul with his feeling of his presence, to become

01:23:46 --> 01:23:50

perfectly conscious of his presence. This is possible in this

01:23:50 --> 01:23:54

way because when we call upon Allah He is present. It says in

01:23:54 --> 01:23:59

the Quran, would only SDG bloco call upon me, and I will reply.

01:24:01 --> 01:24:04

In the Hadith, the noble Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam has

01:24:04 --> 01:24:07

made it clear to us. In fact, he has given it in the words of Allah

01:24:07 --> 01:24:12

that Allah says that I am with that person who remembers me. And

01:24:12 --> 01:24:17

I hope either Karani was of this kind that I'm with that person who

01:24:17 --> 01:24:22

remembers me. That means to say that he then comes, you call him

01:24:22 --> 01:24:24

so he comes, he is present.

01:24:25 --> 01:24:28

It is not only our own effort, if it were our own effort, then we

01:24:28 --> 01:24:31

can call and call and we would never gain anything by it. But

01:24:31 --> 01:24:35

it's not like this. When we call then he comes and by this attempt,

01:24:35 --> 01:24:38

we try to fill ourselves with his consciousness. This is really done

01:24:38 --> 01:24:40

by him, not by us.

01:24:42 --> 01:24:45

What is required is there are so many expressions. One speaks of

01:24:45 --> 01:24:47

self sacrifice self Abnegation.

01:24:49 --> 01:24:53

Abnegation of course means to deny oneself. Although usually self

01:24:53 --> 01:24:57

Abnegation means to deny oneself the things which one likes. Here

01:24:57 --> 01:24:59

I'm using the word in a different sense.

01:25:00 --> 01:25:02

If that is to deny oneself altogether,

01:25:04 --> 01:25:06

people talk about some other expression like self annihilation

01:25:06 --> 01:25:11

and self obliteration. what one has to do is to try to remove

01:25:11 --> 01:25:14

these thoughts of self that I want this and I want that I feel this

01:25:14 --> 01:25:17

and so on. Try to feel a lot only.

01:25:20 --> 01:25:23

Of course, at first you will feel yourself at Allah because a person

01:25:23 --> 01:25:26

has a feeling of his own existence. This is something

01:25:26 --> 01:25:29

natural to a person, he cannot rid himself with this feeling that I

01:25:29 --> 01:25:34

am, this is his basic being. In fact, some philosophers have said

01:25:34 --> 01:25:36

that this is the basis of all knowledge, it is true because

01:25:37 --> 01:25:40

before all knowledge comes this feeling of this knowledge that I

01:25:40 --> 01:25:41

am I exist,

01:25:43 --> 01:25:46

there comes a stage as a member because Allah has pointed out, in

01:25:46 --> 01:25:49

fact, all the Sufis have pointed out, that when a person gets so

01:25:49 --> 01:25:52

totally absorbed in the object of his remembrance, and has really

01:25:52 --> 01:25:54

filled himself with his consciousness, that he forgets

01:25:54 --> 01:25:59

even this basic consciousness of I Am, even goes beyond this, he has

01:25:59 --> 01:26:03

no awareness of his own existence. This is the perfection of this

01:26:03 --> 01:26:05

process of trying to become absorbed, absorbed in the

01:26:05 --> 01:26:09

consciousness of his presence, the awareness of His presence. So this

01:26:09 --> 01:26:11

is what vicar means.

01:26:12 --> 01:26:13

And there's more

01:26:15 --> 01:26:17

from this is from actually one of his, his classes.

01:26:19 --> 01:26:22

He wrote a number of books, some of them based on his many

01:26:22 --> 01:26:26

discourses, tarbiyah, TL or sharp, which is basically a compilation

01:26:26 --> 01:26:31

which he put together of his teacher xLP chars, teachings, he

01:26:31 --> 01:26:34

has what is probably an English is best known book in aspects of

01:26:34 --> 01:26:37

faith, which does sometimes appear in some bookshops in the UK.

01:26:38 --> 01:26:42

And also these multiples that are printed as spirituality and

01:26:42 --> 01:26:46

religion. A very basic introduction to Islam book called

01:26:46 --> 01:26:50

everyday practice in Islam, how to pray, how to fast, why to pray,

01:26:50 --> 01:26:51

why to fast and so on.

01:26:53 --> 01:26:55

But also help the trustee community

01:26:56 --> 01:27:00

by writing to the British Library and obtaining manuscripts

01:27:01 --> 01:27:04

of trustee texts, which he then translated into, although

01:27:07 --> 01:27:11

we've seen that his finding his existence in

01:27:12 --> 01:27:13

the subcontinent,

01:27:14 --> 01:27:16

very taxing physically.

01:27:19 --> 01:27:23

At the age of 59, he has his first heart attack is hospitalized for

01:27:23 --> 01:27:23

two months.

01:27:24 --> 01:27:27

He used to describe illnesses, there's a cat of the body, it's

01:27:27 --> 01:27:30

kind of something that you give and it's the sort of purification

01:27:31 --> 01:27:35

insisted on continuing with his practices and seeing his

01:27:35 --> 01:27:36

disciples.

01:27:39 --> 01:27:44

And just as an example of the, his insistence of following the

01:27:44 --> 01:27:47

prophetic example of living with the poor,

01:27:48 --> 01:27:52

when he first moved to Karachi, he moved to a room above a baker's

01:27:52 --> 01:27:56

shop. And Karachi is pretty hot. But above a baker's shop is like

01:27:56 --> 01:28:00

being in the oven. But he stayed there for a very long time is an

01:28:00 --> 01:28:04

extraordinarily difficult circumstance. So you can imagine

01:28:04 --> 01:28:05

it takes a toll on his health.

01:28:07 --> 01:28:10

Notice MDA ill again, taken to hospital again.

01:28:12 --> 01:28:15

While he's there, he's apparently more concerned with his wife's

01:28:15 --> 01:28:19

health than than his own goes into intensive care.

01:28:20 --> 01:28:24

And then one of the last things that he says is, who are all those

01:28:24 --> 01:28:27

men dressed in white are the Tablighi is

01:28:28 --> 01:28:32

then he realized that the time has come for him to depart. This is

01:28:32 --> 01:28:32

it.

01:28:41 --> 01:28:44

People also realize that the last Hellcat the last circle of

01:28:44 --> 01:28:48

teaching he'd ever given, he actually ended it with the word

01:28:48 --> 01:28:51

holder half is I'd never done that before. So people thought well,

01:28:51 --> 01:28:56

this is some kind of Valediction. So on the 17th of Ramadan, he

01:28:56 --> 01:29:01

dies. Next day is buried in the Sufi Hassan cemetery in Karachi.

01:29:03 --> 01:29:10

And he appoints Suraj Ali Khalifa dies in 2009. Janessa is obviously

01:29:10 --> 01:29:14

a big thing in Karachi, attended by a lot of people. And according

01:29:14 --> 01:29:18

to one of the people who wrote to me there was a 13 year old boy in

01:29:18 --> 01:29:22

Karachi, who saw a dream in which the Holy Prophet was leading a

01:29:22 --> 01:29:26

janazah prayer. When he woke up he learned that his neighbor Shaheed

01:29:26 --> 01:29:30

a lifer, Edie had died. And he went to the Junos and he saw it

01:29:30 --> 01:29:35

was in exactly the same form. So there's the outward sort of

01:29:36 --> 01:29:39

contours of his life.

01:29:42 --> 01:29:48

things to bear in mind that his was a way of subtle not of soccer,

01:29:49 --> 01:29:54

that is to say of sobriety. He was a very calm person. He was not

01:29:54 --> 01:29:59

inclined to intoxicated ecstatic dancing expressions of religion.

01:30:01 --> 01:30:04

Even though he lived in very considerable poverty, to the

01:30:04 --> 01:30:09

exasperation of his parents, he said, do not reject the world but

01:30:09 --> 01:30:10

abstain from it.

01:30:12 --> 01:30:17

Very gentle in his techniques. If people had problems with drink

01:30:18 --> 01:30:23

addiction, and so forth, neglecting prayers, He would wind

01:30:23 --> 01:30:27

them very gently away from those things rather than being stern

01:30:27 --> 01:30:31

with them and risking driving them away. And usually His instruction

01:30:31 --> 01:30:35

to people his advice would take the form of indirect hints, rather

01:30:35 --> 01:30:36

than commands.

01:30:39 --> 01:30:41

Here's another thing from an email

01:30:42 --> 01:30:47

from somebody who heard things from his father who was his

01:30:48 --> 01:30:48

disciple

01:30:52 --> 01:30:55

which again indicates this kind of moderate and

01:30:57 --> 01:30:59

sober type of religion

01:31:00 --> 01:31:03

and the dangers of alternatives. One other story which my father

01:31:03 --> 01:31:06

related to men, which I find particularly significant, in light

01:31:06 --> 01:31:09

of the lecture shahidul offer really gave about the importance

01:31:09 --> 01:31:12

of a shaping protecting a marine from the overwhelming effects are

01:31:12 --> 01:31:16

the practices of disorder. My father, who was a small boy at the

01:31:16 --> 01:31:19

time, had an older cousin in his early 20s, who would often visit

01:31:19 --> 01:31:22

shahidul light and sit quietly in the corner and observe as others

01:31:22 --> 01:31:24

interacted with the shape.

01:31:25 --> 01:31:27

Finally, after many visits, Shahidullah asked him what he

01:31:27 --> 01:31:31

seeks. My father's cousin told him, I want to experience

01:31:31 --> 01:31:35

closeness to Allah, please, would you remove the veil that separates

01:31:35 --> 01:31:36

me from him?

01:31:38 --> 01:31:40

Shahidullah replied in the negative, wanting him that he was

01:31:40 --> 01:31:44

too immature spiritually to bear the burden of that closeness.

01:31:45 --> 01:31:48

My father's cousin persisted through several subsequent visits,

01:31:48 --> 01:31:50

and finally shahidul, like relented.

01:31:51 --> 01:31:54

It's unclear exactly how it happened. But the short of it is

01:31:54 --> 01:31:59

that Shahidullah removed the veil. For the subsequent several days,

01:31:59 --> 01:32:02

my father's cousin went into a major zorb state, repeating again

01:32:02 --> 01:32:05

and again, only that the majesty of what he was seeing was too

01:32:05 --> 01:32:09

great for him to bear. I'm paraphrasing here. After several

01:32:09 --> 01:32:13

days of this, my father's cousin's mother sick with worry, visited

01:32:13 --> 01:32:16

Shahidullah and asked him to undo whatever it was that he had done.

01:32:18 --> 01:32:21

Shahidullah summit my father's cousin went on, did the unveiling,

01:32:22 --> 01:32:25

returning the young man to his former state.

01:32:26 --> 01:32:28

My father was a small boy at the time. So the memories are a bit

01:32:28 --> 01:32:31

broad in their strokes. But it's another story I thought worth

01:32:31 --> 01:32:32

sharing.

01:32:34 --> 01:32:38

So yeah, it's a kind of very classical, medieval image of

01:32:38 --> 01:32:42

sainthood. There's no kind of modernism or fundamentalism or

01:32:42 --> 01:32:45

anything about this, it plunged absolutely into the heart of the

01:32:46 --> 01:32:47

normative tradition.

01:32:51 --> 01:32:55

And the poverty in particular, impress people or not when his

01:32:55 --> 01:33:00

father died, he wouldn't touch the inheritance, which he made over to

01:33:00 --> 01:33:04

his sister instead, who calculated that the dividend from the

01:33:04 --> 01:33:08

investments was around 2 million pounds a year. So it's really

01:33:08 --> 01:33:13

turning down the 14. He always wore simple dress and there's

01:33:13 --> 01:33:16

going to weddings. And if you look at pictures of him, you can see

01:33:16 --> 01:33:19

that he doesn't wear the kind of big turban thing

01:33:20 --> 01:33:25

that is common amongst chefs in some cultures. Usually he dressed

01:33:25 --> 01:33:26

very simply.

01:33:27 --> 01:33:31

He accepted music is an atrocity tradition, and he listened to it.

01:33:31 --> 01:33:35

He enjoyed reading the novels of PJ Woodhouse apparently Jeeves and

01:33:35 --> 01:33:35

Wooster.

01:33:38 --> 01:33:40

Another thing that he taught was that one should not emigrate to

01:33:40 --> 01:33:44

the west for the Sandia to said,

01:33:45 --> 01:33:48

they should stay in Pakistan and benefit it they will be happier.

01:33:49 --> 01:33:52

So he himself had emulated the Hijra at the migration of the Holy

01:33:52 --> 01:33:54

Prophet to and for Islam.

01:33:55 --> 01:33:58

He says, if you put your child in a pool of water, he will

01:33:58 --> 01:33:59

definitely get wet.

01:34:01 --> 01:34:03

So watch out for sending your children to schools in the West.

01:34:04 --> 01:34:06

And he says those who studied in the West should return as soon as

01:34:06 --> 01:34:08

possible in order to benefit their people.

01:34:10 --> 01:34:15

Meticulous in his following of the Sunnah. And even people point out

01:34:15 --> 01:34:20

that his his beta came at the age of 40. And his death came at the

01:34:20 --> 01:34:23

age of 63. So there's prophetic parallels. They're

01:34:24 --> 01:34:29

very, very clearly humble like the Holy Prophet, he would ask advice

01:34:29 --> 01:34:30

from children.

01:34:31 --> 01:34:35

Very strong spiritual attachment to the Holy Prophets on a wet

01:34:35 --> 01:34:40

amongst his most beloved devotions, vicar, particularly

01:34:40 --> 01:34:41

Mondays and Thursdays

01:34:43 --> 01:34:48

emphasize the importance of constant making a small efforts,

01:34:49 --> 01:34:52

Mujahidin had he said that even delaying a small desire for 10

01:34:52 --> 01:34:54

minutes is very helpful.

01:34:55 --> 01:34:58

So I won't eat that bar of chocolate now but in 10 minutes

01:34:58 --> 01:34:59

time even that he says is good for you.

01:35:01 --> 01:35:04

or changing one's resolution. If you have a habit that you always

01:35:04 --> 01:35:08

walk in a particular way, change it walk in a different way that

01:35:08 --> 01:35:11

helps you to wake up and be more alert. He says, People these days

01:35:11 --> 01:35:14

a week can carry little. So you have to give them these basic

01:35:14 --> 01:35:15

disciplines.

01:35:16 --> 01:35:20

Again, the poverty, sometimes he wouldn't teach them a book because

01:35:20 --> 01:35:21

he couldn't afford to buy it.

01:35:24 --> 01:35:28

love of nature when he moved out of this room above the bakery,

01:35:28 --> 01:35:31

which apparently was just six feet long.

01:35:33 --> 01:35:35

Some of the disciples said actually, he couldn't stretch out

01:35:35 --> 01:35:38

on it. That's one of their recollections. So then he moved

01:35:38 --> 01:35:41

into a kind of bungalow, he had a garden he had a love of nature.

01:35:44 --> 01:35:49

Famous for the answer ability if his prayers sometimes people

01:35:49 --> 01:35:53

observed that they would go to the chef with the intention of asking

01:35:53 --> 01:35:56

a question but to his philosophy he would answer the question

01:35:56 --> 01:35:59

before they asked it which again is very standard if you've

01:35:59 --> 01:36:01

associated with Alia

01:36:03 --> 01:36:08

so I'm going to end just with one of his disciples eulogistic ores

01:36:08 --> 01:36:12

that they have there have not been at this place in Karachi is still

01:36:12 --> 01:36:16

a big event. This people are still they're still publishing.

01:36:18 --> 01:36:21

But this is a eulogy by one of his disciples.

01:36:22 --> 01:36:27

Rosa shump Daraa Ashley Mola, John in Zakharova, soft sofa who Tora

01:36:27 --> 01:36:32

Bora is eternity Emani more this should be aura had no borders

01:36:32 --> 01:36:36

Auntie aura had no board, or bizarre hair Malda insaan Hulk had

01:36:36 --> 01:36:37

done that.

01:36:39 --> 01:36:42

Which they translate like this day and night he burnt his frail self

01:36:42 --> 01:36:46

in the love of his Lord. He burned his own self in order to improve

01:36:46 --> 01:36:51

our faith. His love had no limit, limit his composure, no bounds,

01:36:52 --> 01:36:55

visibly a human but constantly immersed in God.

01:36:56 --> 01:37:00

It's very kind of unlike say that armored Bullock story or the other

01:37:01 --> 01:37:03

convert stories which we've looked at here we have the case of

01:37:03 --> 01:37:08

somebody who makes a permanent hitter at eastwards and immerses

01:37:08 --> 01:37:13

himself 100% in the local culture, even loses his British passport

01:37:13 --> 01:37:17

because he just wants to be with with these people in his adopted

01:37:17 --> 01:37:21

country, Pakistan, it's an interesting kind of counter

01:37:21 --> 01:37:24

migration, perhaps sociologists would call it

01:37:25 --> 01:37:29

so yeah, I'm still working on this. I still get random emails

01:37:29 --> 01:37:36

from people some of whom have died not long ago, that inshallah one

01:37:36 --> 01:37:40

day there'll be a more substantive biography, although probably

01:37:40 --> 01:37:44

that's the last thing he would have wanted. So my alley, what are

01:37:44 --> 01:37:44

the

01:37:46 --> 01:37:49

hundreds and we don't usually do questions after this. And this has

01:37:49 --> 01:37:53

gone on for too long as usual. Thank you for your attention in

01:37:53 --> 01:37:58

Sharla. There's baraka and Hodor be decree him tangible Rama by

01:37:58 --> 01:38:03

mentioning the pure ones mercy two cents. Thank you all very much. So

01:38:03 --> 01:38:04

Monica,

01:38:05 --> 01:38:08

Cambridge Muslim College, training the next generation of Muslim

01:38:08 --> 01:38:09

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