Abdal Hakim Murad – Ahmad bin Hanbal Paradigms of Leadership

Abdal Hakim Murad
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The speakers discuss the importance of the 4 pillars of Islam, including the importance of the origin of the um urgency of Islam, the need for a person to be a scholar and leader, the importance of following scripture and following the holy spirit, and the importance of following scripture and following the holy spirit. They also discuss the importance of knowing the meaning of " mas lifting" in political and political events, and the use of hesitant language in political and political events. The speakers emphasize the importance of following scripture and following the holy spirit.
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So we're once again embarked on, one of

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these stories about,

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men and women who represent in what turns

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out to be a huge kaleidoscope

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of different

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ways,

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represents the principle of leadership.

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We began with the fairly obvious observation that

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in Islam leadership is not something that we

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seek, because the ego

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tends to be attached to it. But

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that nonetheless,

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people may accept when it is thrust upon

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them, if it is used for the benefit

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of

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mankind and the spreading of the deen.

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What I want the individual that I want

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to talk about, this evening,

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is one of the great 4 Imams of,

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the fiqh, according to the Ahlus Sunnah wal

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Jama'ah.

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This is Imam Ahmad Ben Hanbal,

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Sheybani.

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We need to preface our remarks with the

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reflection

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that even though nowadays it's second nature to

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us as Muslims to assume that, yes, there

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are 4 Imams,

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Just as there are 4 Akhtar,

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and

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4 seems to be a particular

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number,

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4 of the great Rus'l

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and so forth.

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4 of the perfect women.

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But,

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nonetheless,

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the emergence of Islamic law was a much

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less methodical

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principle and process that that tidy number might

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suggest.

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The great catastrophe in the history of the

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Ummah

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happens, of course,

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in the year 632,

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when the holy prophet dies

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unexpectedly,

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he returns to his lord.

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Passes on to Al Rafiq al-'A'allah,

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leaving the community in

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consternation,

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confusion.

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Suddenly,

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the principle

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that had been amongst them,

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resolving their disputes,

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providing them with blessing and holiness,

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speaking to them of the meaning of life

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and what is before life and what is

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after life, the oracle of everything

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that they needed to know about this world

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and the next,

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suddenly was no longer there.

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But continuity

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was essential

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if the individual Muslim souls

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and the conveyance of the Dawah

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and the great Amr, the

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politics

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of the early community,

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its unity against

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the polytheistic

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tribal

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jahili rivals, was to be preserved.

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In a sense, all of the great olema

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of Islam, all of the great leaders of

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Islam,

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are great insofar as they recognize

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that what they are doing is

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attempting to mitigate

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that initial catastrophe.

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The great disaster of Al Wafert and Nabawiyah,

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the prophetic

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death, which left some of the Sahaba

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unable to speak, unable to walk. They were

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suddenly

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and calamitously

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bereaved.

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But the Ummah had to continue.

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And the 4 Khalifa

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were the ones who held the torch

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and provided

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the context

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for the spiritual

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continuity

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and the Fiqh continuity

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and the political stability and legitimacy of the

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Ummah

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to ride those storms, and they were very

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grave storms,

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in order that the message would not be

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lost.

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Subsequently, we find all of these great leaders,

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men and women,

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saints,

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scholars,

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Sufis,

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intellectuals,

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Quran experts,

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Mujahideen,

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princes,

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Khalifa.

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Their greatness in the sight of

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Allah

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is measured entirely in terms of their

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success in reducing and mitigating

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that catastrophe,

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the prophetic demise.

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And in conserving,

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not just in the forms of people's lives,

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but in the hearts

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of the Ummah,

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the principle of the Sonnah.

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There was ever for you in Allah's messenger

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an excellent example.

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Not the ego based chest thumping of Abu

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Lahab and Abu Jahal.

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Nor the mindless pride

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of the ignorant

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imperial rulers of the time,

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nor the wild vengeance based

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code of the

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Bedouin Arabs,

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but something completely different and completely new.

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Something in line with the fitra,

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and hence something in which human beings found

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peace.

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So this life and this peace which he

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brought to the Ummah

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is what

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the leader of the Ummah

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always seeks to maintain.

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Not doing it for his own self,

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but for Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.

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And it is said that unlike

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in

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the modern academy,

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where the purpose of the teacher,

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if it's not just to serve the economy,

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but is to serve the student,

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that in the Islamic vision,

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the function of a scholar is not to

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serve the student,

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but to serve truth.

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And with the students,

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the teacher preserves the knowledge

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that has been conserved from the age of

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prophecy.

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That is what we serve, we serve truth.

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And it is the privilege

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of the bearers of truth

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to be a link in that chain, and

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safely

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to take it through the storms of our

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generation, and to pass it on unaltered,

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unpolluted,

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uncontaminated

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to the next generation of believers.

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But the scholar is not the servant of

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the student. The scholar is the servant of

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truth.

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So these 4 Imams emerge in the context

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of an Ummah that has demonstrated

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extraordinary

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intellectual vitality,

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while being restrained

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in various ways

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by the need to remain loyal to the

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prophetic vision, to the sunnah.

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And the people of the sunnah are called

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Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamara,

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the people of the sunnah and of the

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community.

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And so a scholar is a scholar for

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the sunnah, for the truth of the sunnah,

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and for the community.

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And in that sense, he is a public

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figure.

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The 4 Imams represent different ways in which

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the Sahaba, Ridwanullahhim,

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heard and understood and conveyed

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the multifaceted

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brilliance

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of the prophetic excellence.

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Of he who,

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was described as Allah Khulukin Azim.

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Verily, you are on a mighty trait of

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character, the immensity of the prophetic

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personality,

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the immensity of the word which he carried,

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the immense size and profundity and complexity

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of the legacy of Hadith,

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the extraordinary transformation which he brought to the

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depths of people's hearts,

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turning wild

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men into saints.

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All of that immensity

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was understood differently by the Sahaba who stood

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humbly around that great mountain

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and tried to

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record it as much as they could.

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And so the 4 madhhabs represent not random

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accumulations of early rulings, but rather different visions,

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different fragrances, different bandwidths in the spectrum

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cast by the prophetic refraction.

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And, of course, even in the time of

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the 4 imams, it was not clear that

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there were to be 4 imams. There were

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others.

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Imam Alleth bin Saad,

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Imam Sufyan,

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Imam Tabari,

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I guess, Imam al Auzari,

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Abu Thawr, and others who had madhubs of

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their own.

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Continuing in this way, the fact that amongst

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the Sahaba, radhilahu anhum, there were madhubs.

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The imam that, it is our privilege to

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speak about this evening,

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is the imam

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who was reached by

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a particular

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possibility amongst the Salaf

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that was

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intensely concerned

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to maintain

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the plainness

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of the revelation

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without the possibility of contamination

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by human deduction.

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And this reflects a necessary argument.

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To what extent can the mind autonomously

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determine truth, values, ethics, laws?

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To what extent is it something that can

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only be known safely

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through revelation?

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The Adha Sunnah,

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by being the Adha Sunnah, conclude that the

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source of knowledge is revelation.

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But they take different views on the extent

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to which reason

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can interpret that revelation.

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What if there are difficulties in understanding a

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hadith?

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What if there are difficulties in reconciling different

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hadiths that seem to be saying different things?

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What if there are difficulties involved

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in squaring the reports of the Sahaba

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with what seems to be in the Hadith?

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What if there are linguistic arguments? There's plenty

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of ways in which the mind is indispensable.

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The scholar is not some kind of database.

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The scholar is a complete human being with

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a great processing capacity.

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So, Al Imam Ahmad Radilahu Anhu

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and the Hanabi'lah who followed him,

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were amongst those scholars

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who took the view that one needs to

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be,

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skeptical

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about the capacity of reason to work things

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out unaided,

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and to try and follow the scripture

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to the extent that one can by looking

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at its outward

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plain sense.

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This turned out to be a minority interpretation

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amongst the olema.

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It's part of the greatness of the Ahlul

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Sunnah wal Jama'ah,

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that unlike other religions where there was an

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insistence on following just one interpretation.

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At one point in the Christian middle ages,

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there were 3 different popes fighting each other.

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But in Islam, the Imams

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don't fight each other, but respect each other.

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The Ikhtilaf

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is regarded as something that is

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due to the intensity of their sincerity in

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following the sunnah according to their understanding of

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the sunnah.

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So,

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al

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Imam Ahmad

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has not been followed by as many as

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have followed Imam Malik, or Imam Al Shafa'i,

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or Imam Abu Hanifa.

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But nonetheless, because of the breadth and wisdom

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of the Sonni tradition,

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his position

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has always been uncontroversially

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regarded as a valid one,

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and this is part of the greatness

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of Islam.

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Ahlul 'alm. Ahlul Tawseaha. The people of scholarship

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are people who try to make things broad.

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So there has always been this possibility in

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Islam of following,

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we wouldn't call it a fundamentalism, which is

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a loaded term, but rather

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a firm determination

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to follow the plain sense of scripture,

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irrespective

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of what ratiocination

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might determine.

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Another thing that we find with the madhab

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of Imam Ahmad, and it's related to this,

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is that he took immense care

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to maintain

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not only the Athar,

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the Akbar, the Hadiths and the sayings of

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the early Muslims,

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but also the spirit of those texts.

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This is not a superficial interpretation of Islam.

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And as we'll see as we progress through

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the story of this great imam, he was,

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of all of the 4 imams, the one

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who is closest to the Sufis,

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and the one who loved to keep their

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company.

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And also of the 4 imams, the one

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of whom we have most

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reports preserved of his,

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awareness of the sanctity of anything connected with

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the holy prophet, sallallahu

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alaihi wasallam.

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So when he was buried, he insisted that

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the 3 hairs from the holy prophet's head,

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which he had conserved

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for their blessing,

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would be buried with him, 1 on each

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eye, 1 on his lips.

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And his son

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conserved many very moving accounts of his tremendous

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reverence

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for anything that was a relic of the

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holy prophet,

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So not some kind of superficial,

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latter day fundamentalist with no idea of holiness,

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but somebody who conserved the Hadith because he

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knew the spiritual greatness of the one,

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who the Hadith is describing.

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We have plenty of information about his life.

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We know that he was born in the

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year 164,

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that's pretty well known, and died in the

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year 241.

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We know that his mother was from the

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town of Marl, which is in Central Asia,

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and came to Baghdad when she was pregnant

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with al Imam

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Ahmad.

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And on both sides of his family, he

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is of Arab stock, unlike say, Imam Abu

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Hanifa, who is of Persian

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origin.

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From,

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the Sheibani tribe, a tribe well known for

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their

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martial virtues and for their high aspiration

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for their Himma.

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The home of the family was

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somewhere around what's now

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Basra, but probably a bit south of it.

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So sometimes you heard Kuwaitis boasting of the

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fact that Ahmed bin Hanbal grew up in

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Kuwait,

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which is not unlikely. Of course, the name

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and the country

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were not in existence at the time. But

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that's the kind of

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region,

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Saidna Umar

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had built, the great city of Basra.

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The Sahaba and the Ali Khalifa were great

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civilizers, builders of cities.

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Kufa,

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Fostat,

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and and Basra,

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Wasat, other places.

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So sometimes, Imam Ahmed is called al Basri,

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because that's the kind of area where he

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grew up. And certainly, when he went to

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Basra, he would always make sure that he

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would pray in the mosque of

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of Merzin

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in Basra.

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He was asked about that, and he said,

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it's the mosque of my ancestors.

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His father,

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Muhammad,

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was a

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soldier.

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Some say an officer, so he remembers

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how he would see his father sometimes wearing

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kind of military clothes or armor.

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But he never really

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saw him,

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because his father died young at the age

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of about 30.

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But his father manages to leave the family,

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a small property in Baghdad, which generates an

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income, which,

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covers

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the family's needs.

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Subsequently, although, as we'll see, Imam Ahmad was

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one of the Imams who have really preferred

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asceticism

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and and a simple life of poverty.

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So being an orphan in this way gave

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him a kind of sense of self reliance

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and accustomed him to a life of poverty.

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And,

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he's similar in this respect to Imam al

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Shefey.

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Good lineage

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combined with poverty lead to a certain type

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of human nobility.

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And this is probably one reason why in

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later life, he was so intensely drawn to

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the company of the Zohad, the ascetics, and

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of the Sufis.

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Moves to Baghdad. Baghdad is really the center

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of the Islamic world, the greatest city in

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the world at the time.

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Every tendency, of course, is present.

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Every possible sect and denomination, every possible religion

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is there. It's a kind of

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microcosm of the of of the planet.

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He engages in the usual traditional studies, so

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he memorizes the Holy Quran.

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He is a master of the Arabic language,

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and would spend a certain amount of time

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in the, kind of, royal

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bureaucratic offices, the Diwan,

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the scriptorium.

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One of his tasks, quite often there, was

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to

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read soldiers letters to their wives and write

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down their replies. These are the soldiers who

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are not able to read and write. And

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one of the things we find in the

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lives of all of the 4 imams,

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is that they were very connected to the

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reality of ordinary people's lives. These are not

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ivory tower,

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academics. These are people who are really determined

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to understand the reality of the people for

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whom they're giving fatwas.

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One of the senior scribes

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said, we're told,

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If this young man lives long enough, he

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will be a proof for the whole people

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of of of his age. It was clear

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that there was

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a tremendous future

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in wait for him.

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So many things could be studied in Baghdad,

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from astronomy to mathematics,

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to inheritance law, to royal administration,

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irrigation,

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but he chose Deen.

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And in din, of course, there were different

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tracks.

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There was the track of fiqh

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and also the track of hadith. You could

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say those are the 2 main,

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subdivisions.

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And Iraq, of course, already contained the madhab

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of,

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Abu Yusuf and Sheibani, the 2 great inheritors

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of Abu Hanifa.

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And it's said sometimes that his first teacher

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was,

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Abu Yusuf.

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But soon he switches and prefers hadith, and

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he becomes known particularly,

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as a great,

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scholar and

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assessor and compiler of Hadith.

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Sometimes people say he's just a Muhadith

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and doesn't know Fek, but that's wrong. We

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have plenty of accounts from his contemporaries indicating

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that,

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he did study firq. His pupil, Al Khalal,

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for instance, said he studied firq. Walakindam yatafit

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ilay. He didn't give it much attention, but

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but he knew it.

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Until the year 18 6, he continues writing

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the Hadiths that are available in the Hadith

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circles of Baghdad.

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Then he goes to Basra,

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to learn more hadiths there. And in the

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following year, he goes to the Hejaz,

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and then to Yemen. And all of this

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is the traditional rekhnefitolobil

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hadith,

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the traveling in search of hadith.

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And then returns to Baghdad,

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3 more years,

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and make further trips to the Hajj. We're

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told that he made

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the Hajj 5 times altogether. Three times he

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went walking.

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In the Hejaz, he meets, Imam al Shefa'i,

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whom he sees in

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Baghdad as well. Remember these 4 Imams, they're

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kind of, even though the

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generations, it's a stretch period, more than a

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100 years, but still they are part of

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the same intellectual

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community. And Imam Shefirai

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respected his views absolutely in Hadith, and would

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frequently consult him.

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So he would say to Imam Ahmed, if

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you think a hadith is sound,

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teach it to me.

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So we have this image of this

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enthusiast for Hadith, this lover of Hadith.

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And you can only really understand that when

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you think that hadith is

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a difficult discipline based on long isnaads and

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the memorization of inconceivable quantities of material.

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How could a young man be so

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focused just on that?

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That he he through the hadith, he saw

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the chosen one

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Each hadith

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fills in a piece of the jigsaw,

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and the more of the jigsaw you

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have, you see the face of the Mustafa

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It's the holy prophet that they're seeking. They

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want to overcome that catastrophe of the prophetic

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death, and to help the Ummah as much

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as possible,

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and to serve the aim, to serve the

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knowledge. So this accounts for the extraordinary enthusiasm.

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He wanted to go to some other places,

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to the east he wanted to go to

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Rai, but he simply couldn't afford

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it. We're told that on some of his

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journeys, he would sleep on a brick.

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He went to

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Yemen because he needed some hadiths from there.

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He couldn't afford any kind of even a

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donkey, and he walked all the way to

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Yemen.

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On the way, and while he was there,

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he ran out of money and had to

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look for work.

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So he was working with some porters, people

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who were just carrying

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things.

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The historians say, He just hired himself out

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to some porters

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until he reached Saint Art. So he's just

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carrying whatever

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for a few coins just to keep him

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going.

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He did this because it was his principle

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out of his,

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sense of

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dignity

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and appropriateness in deen.

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That because he was doing these things for

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scholarship, he didn't want anybody to pay him

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or subsidized him. So even if he was

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traveling with a group of people, and they

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saw that he was hungry, he wouldn't accept

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any money from them. He would go off

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and find a job of some kind.

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He goes to Saint Ath

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to get hadith from the great Imam Abdulrazaq,

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one of the great early hadith

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narrators, the author of the Musanaf.

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And again,

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Abdulazizi's

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disguise in rags.

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He's thin,

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and the imam wants to help him with

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some money.

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So, Abdul Azak says to this

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starving student,

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take this thing

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and benefit from it,

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because our land is not a land in

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which people can easily earn or trade.

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And he handed him some coins,

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but Ahmad just said, I'm fine. I'm alright.

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So in San'a, he stays in intense poverty

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for 2 years, hearing hadiths

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from Ibn al Musaiah,

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from Imam al Zohari,

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from that line, and from Imam Abdul Azak.

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And he continues

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to travel,

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and he is said to have had a

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box.

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And he would travel, walk these huge distances,

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with a box on his back, which had

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his books in it.

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And people would comment on this.

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And he never

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stopped

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studying

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and taking his books with him, even when

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he became the great imam of Baghdad, Imam

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Ahmed Ben Hanbal.

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He was asked why he just couldn't stop

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ever writing down hadith, and he said,

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ma'al Mahbbara,

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il al Mahbbara.

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I'm with my

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ink pot

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until I go to the hole in the

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grounds, the the grave. It rhymes in Arabic.

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He's living in what's called the Asratedwin,

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the age in which

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the writing down of hadith is becoming a

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huge flourishing

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activity of the civilization.

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Even though he'd memorized his hadiths,

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he would only teach them from a physical

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text, from a book.

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Even if he knew something

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and didn't have the book,

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he would write the hadith down,

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and then teach from that piece of writing.

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This was his style of teaching.

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He

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got to meet all kinds of different people,

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especially traveling around in Iraq, which was this

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amazingly cosmopolitan place where you could meet people

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from every possible

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denomination. It said that he spoke Farsi quite

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well.

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And some of his family were in Khorasan,

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and occasionally would visit him, and he could

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speak to them in in Farsi. So, again,

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a cosmopolitan person, not some kind of limited

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monk.

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So he's basically just doing this.

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He doesn't hear from Imam Malik,

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Imam Ibn al Mubarak, and some other very

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early transmitters, because they just died too soon.

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And then

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he's still not teaching.

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He passes the age of 30,

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35.

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Doesn't teach Hadith. At the age of 40

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his life changes, he sits down and he

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becomes the great Muhadith, the great Hadith teacher.

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'jelatha

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litahhadith.'

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because he was following the colonic

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verse about

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maturity.

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So that at the age of 40, one

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reaches one's full maturity.

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And this was

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from his scrupulousness.

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He knew the enormous amena, the responsibility

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of teaching the prophetic legacy, and he wanted

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to make sure that he was doing this

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in his prime, at a time of real

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maturity.

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So by this time he's finally got his

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circle in Baghdad,

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he's already famous.

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Even when he was just collecting hadiths

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and hearing ISN ads, he had a reputation.

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So when he finally sat down in Baghdad

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to teach,

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huge crowds came.

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It said sometimes 5,000 people would come

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just to hear some hadiths

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from him, and people would come from from

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all over.

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And this is said to be one reason

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why his

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hadith spread very widely, because there's just so

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many people there,

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to listen to them.

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It's recorded that not everybody

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attended these sessions,

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just to memorize some hadiths.

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Some of them came because of his famous

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spiritual presence. It was a very

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holy, sacred, Mubarak environment,

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is seshun.

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So, ibn al Josi, a great later

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historian,

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Reports of 1 in the audience,

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So somebody who was present said,

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I used to go to Imam Ahmed Ben

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Hanbal

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regularly for 12 years, while he was teaching

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the Musnad

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to his children.

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But I didn't write down a single

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hadith.

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I only

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went

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because of the guidance that he was given,

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giving the akhlaq that he showed and the

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adab.

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I'm just observing

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the beauty of the man as he taught

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in his ascetical,

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god filled way,

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was a spiritual transformation for this person.

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It was his habit to teach the most

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able students in his house,

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but also to give these enormous public lectures

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in the mosque in Baghdad,

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usually after the Asar prayer. That was his

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his life.

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His sessions were also famous for their their

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gravitas.

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Remember, Imam Malik used to take a rusl

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before,

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sitting to

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give hadith.

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Imam Ahmad never in his life

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was reported to have told anything like a

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joke in his classes.

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Never said anything humorous or witty.

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Because he considered his classes to be worship,

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and one should not be light hearted during

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Ibadah. So it's an intensely intense,

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serious

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environment.

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1 of his pupils recalled,

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I've never seen a more precious or unusual

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gathering than the majlis of Imam Ahmed.

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He had tremendous mildness,

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never went too fast,

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was extremely humble,

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was dominated

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by tranquility

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and dignity.

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And when in the afternoons, after the Asar

00:30:50 --> 00:30:52

prayer, he sat down for his majlis,

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He wouldn't speak

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until somebody asked him a question.

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It was in this kind of dignified

00:31:01 --> 00:31:02

state, and people would venture to ask him

00:31:02 --> 00:31:04

a question, then he would speak.

00:31:05 --> 00:31:07

So in these sessions, we're told that he

00:31:07 --> 00:31:09

would do 2 different things. Firstly, he would

00:31:09 --> 00:31:10

be dictating hadith.

00:31:11 --> 00:31:14

Secondly, he would be giving fatwas and judgments

00:31:14 --> 00:31:15

of various kinds. He wouldn't

00:31:16 --> 00:31:18

allow anybody to write these down,

00:31:19 --> 00:31:20

and it said that's because he

00:31:21 --> 00:31:24

didn't want to see anything written which contained

00:31:24 --> 00:31:26

his own fatwas. That was his tradition.

00:31:28 --> 00:31:30

So everything seems to be going fine for

00:31:30 --> 00:31:31

him. He's this

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king of the scholars in Baghdad,

00:31:35 --> 00:31:37

this incredibly holy person.

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But then the great catastrophe of his life

00:31:41 --> 00:31:42

happens,

00:31:42 --> 00:31:44

which is what's known in Islamic history as

00:31:44 --> 00:31:47

the mihna. Mihna is like an inquisition.

00:31:50 --> 00:31:50

Baghdad,

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despite being the center of the world,

00:31:54 --> 00:31:57

is also the center of many of the

00:31:57 --> 00:31:58

fitness of the world.

00:31:59 --> 00:32:01

As well as different kinds of Shia, you

00:32:01 --> 00:32:02

have

00:32:02 --> 00:32:05

rationalists. You have the beginnings of Arabic philosophy.

00:32:05 --> 00:32:06

You have the Muatezilah.

00:32:08 --> 00:32:10

And this argument between Akkal and Nakkal,

00:32:11 --> 00:32:13

reason and the transmitted text of revelation,

00:32:14 --> 00:32:16

is kind of pulling the city apart.

00:32:18 --> 00:32:21

And this comes to a head with this

00:32:21 --> 00:32:24

event known as the the Mirna. This begins

00:32:24 --> 00:32:26

with the Abbasid caliph, Al Ma'mon,

00:32:28 --> 00:32:31

and continues with his 2 immediate successors, Al

00:32:31 --> 00:32:32

Martasim and Al Wathak.

00:32:35 --> 00:32:36

Macron

00:32:36 --> 00:32:39

may not have been a card carrying member

00:32:39 --> 00:32:40

of the Mu'tazilite sect,

00:32:41 --> 00:32:44

but he certainly was convinced of the idea

00:32:44 --> 00:32:47

that somehow Allah's book, the Quran,

00:32:48 --> 00:32:50

is something new that's created.

00:32:52 --> 00:32:55

This is an idea that had appeared earlier

00:32:55 --> 00:32:58

in the Umayyad period that's associated with somebody

00:32:58 --> 00:32:59

called Jahan Bandirham.

00:32:59 --> 00:33:01

Jahan Band software.

00:33:02 --> 00:33:05

Effectively a denial of the divine attribute of

00:33:05 --> 00:33:05

speech.

00:33:07 --> 00:33:07

Moctezilites

00:33:08 --> 00:33:10

didn't think that God speaks.

00:33:10 --> 00:33:11

It's an anthropomorphism,

00:33:12 --> 00:33:13

and also it suggests that

00:33:13 --> 00:33:15

there's been something with God,

00:33:16 --> 00:33:17

before

00:33:19 --> 00:33:21

anything existed, and this creates a kind of

00:33:21 --> 00:33:24

cluster of entities rather than a single single

00:33:24 --> 00:33:26

one God. So then what Hazlalite said, for

00:33:26 --> 00:33:27

the sake of Tawhid,

00:33:27 --> 00:33:29

we have to say that the Quran comes

00:33:29 --> 00:33:31

into being in time. There was a time

00:33:31 --> 00:33:33

when it just wasn't around.

00:33:35 --> 00:33:35

So the Motezilites

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on this argument, and this is one of

00:33:38 --> 00:33:38

the

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more understandable

00:33:41 --> 00:33:41

doctrines,

00:33:42 --> 00:33:44

start to gain in strength in the city

00:33:44 --> 00:33:47

of Baghdad. They infiltrate the entourage of the

00:33:47 --> 00:33:48

caliph,

00:33:48 --> 00:33:51

and Macron seems to, kind of, be interested

00:33:51 --> 00:33:52

in this this idea.

00:33:54 --> 00:33:56

Sometimes, Abu Harsim,

00:33:57 --> 00:33:58

the great

00:33:58 --> 00:34:02

Mo'Tazalite theologian, said that, Ammona would almost stand

00:34:02 --> 00:34:03

up when he came in.

00:34:05 --> 00:34:07

So in the year 212 of the Hijra,

00:34:07 --> 00:34:10

an official caliphal proclamation goes out saying that

00:34:10 --> 00:34:13

the official doctrine is the Halkul Quran, the

00:34:13 --> 00:34:15

creativeness of the Quran.

00:34:16 --> 00:34:18

This is an official doctrine, but at first

00:34:18 --> 00:34:20

it's not kind of imposed.

00:34:21 --> 00:34:22

That comes in 218,

00:34:23 --> 00:34:25

when the scholars obviously are not buying

00:34:25 --> 00:34:26

the strange idea,

00:34:27 --> 00:34:29

and the caliph tries to physically impose it

00:34:30 --> 00:34:30

forcibly.

00:34:31 --> 00:34:33

And gets his soldiers, and his entourage, and

00:34:33 --> 00:34:36

the city police to require the fuqaha and

00:34:36 --> 00:34:37

the Hadith scholars

00:34:37 --> 00:34:39

to subscribe to it.

00:34:40 --> 00:34:42

And those who don't, are told that their

00:34:42 --> 00:34:44

testimony won't be accepted in courts of law.

00:34:45 --> 00:34:47

They can't hold any kind of public office

00:34:47 --> 00:34:48

like a judgeship.

00:34:48 --> 00:34:51

So they're kind of cancelled, we'd say nowadays.

00:34:52 --> 00:34:55

Everybody's views on this is assembled in a

00:34:55 --> 00:34:57

huge book, which is sent to Matt Morn,

00:34:57 --> 00:35:00

who looks through it And then orders ultimately

00:35:01 --> 00:35:03

that dissidents, if they won't change their view,

00:35:03 --> 00:35:04

should be arrested,

00:35:05 --> 00:35:06

threatened with

00:35:06 --> 00:35:07

execution.

00:35:09 --> 00:35:12

This is very unusual in Islamic history because

00:35:12 --> 00:35:14

the caliph doesn't really have the authority to

00:35:14 --> 00:35:14

do that.

00:35:15 --> 00:35:17

For all of the Western polemical talk about

00:35:17 --> 00:35:18

Islam and

00:35:19 --> 00:35:21

theocracy, the reality is that the ruler doesn't

00:35:21 --> 00:35:23

really have much religious authority.

00:35:23 --> 00:35:25

His name is on the coinage, it's recited

00:35:25 --> 00:35:28

in the Khutba, he can declare jihad. He

00:35:28 --> 00:35:30

is responsible in some way for the establishment

00:35:30 --> 00:35:31

of the Khodur,

00:35:32 --> 00:35:33

but he can't really

00:35:33 --> 00:35:36

interfere in or impose a theological or fekri

00:35:36 --> 00:35:37

perspective.

00:35:37 --> 00:35:38

That's God's business

00:35:39 --> 00:35:40

as interpreted by the olamat.

00:35:42 --> 00:35:44

So he's doing something that's rather strange, and

00:35:44 --> 00:35:47

it's the only example of a major

00:35:48 --> 00:35:51

doctrinal dispute attempting to be resolved in Islamic

00:35:51 --> 00:35:53

history through force.

00:35:54 --> 00:35:56

Nowadays, all of the regimes are trying to

00:35:56 --> 00:35:57

correct the masses,

00:35:58 --> 00:36:00

Aqidah or whatever, but this is not the

00:36:00 --> 00:36:01

function of the state historically.

00:36:02 --> 00:36:04

But Malmon seems to have thought it was.

00:36:04 --> 00:36:05

So

00:36:06 --> 00:36:08

the scholars threatened with execution,

00:36:10 --> 00:36:12

kind of say that they accept this new

00:36:12 --> 00:36:14

teaching, or they have some way of finessing

00:36:14 --> 00:36:15

it so that they can get away with

00:36:15 --> 00:36:16

it.

00:36:16 --> 00:36:19

But some of them refuse, and they are

00:36:19 --> 00:36:19

arrested,

00:36:20 --> 00:36:22

beaten up, thrown into jail.

00:36:25 --> 00:36:27

One of these is Imamal

00:36:27 --> 00:36:28

Boetti,

00:36:28 --> 00:36:30

an associate of Asherbe,

00:36:30 --> 00:36:31

a very rigorous

00:36:32 --> 00:36:35

and beloved scholar who actually dies in prison.

00:36:37 --> 00:36:38

Nuhayin Benhammed,

00:36:38 --> 00:36:40

another Hadith expert,

00:36:40 --> 00:36:41

also dies.

00:36:43 --> 00:36:44

Macron is on campaign

00:36:45 --> 00:36:48

during this strange period, a place called Tarsus,

00:36:48 --> 00:36:49

Northern Syria.

00:36:50 --> 00:36:51

And claps his hand and says, let all

00:36:51 --> 00:36:52

of the scholars,

00:36:53 --> 00:36:55

come to me whether they're free or whether

00:36:55 --> 00:36:56

they're in chains.

00:36:58 --> 00:37:00

So they're going to this kind of council

00:37:00 --> 00:37:01

on route.

00:37:02 --> 00:37:04

The angel of death gets there first,

00:37:04 --> 00:37:05

and the caliph

00:37:05 --> 00:37:07

dies. But before he dies, he tells his

00:37:07 --> 00:37:08

brother Mu'tasim

00:37:08 --> 00:37:09

to maintain

00:37:10 --> 00:37:10

this

00:37:11 --> 00:37:11

policy.

00:37:17 --> 00:37:18

This is

00:37:19 --> 00:37:21

probably now more in the hands of his

00:37:21 --> 00:37:21

chief,

00:37:22 --> 00:37:25

wazir, Ahmed Ben Abi Doad, who is a

00:37:25 --> 00:37:26

dyed in the wool convinced Mortezelite,

00:37:29 --> 00:37:31

who tries to impose this thing on the

00:37:31 --> 00:37:32

scholars.

00:37:32 --> 00:37:33

And this idea

00:37:34 --> 00:37:36

the Quran came into being, is created, was

00:37:36 --> 00:37:39

written, and put above all of the doors

00:37:39 --> 00:37:41

of the mosques in the empire, so that

00:37:41 --> 00:37:42

people would have to

00:37:42 --> 00:37:46

walk beneath them. Very difficult in Islam to

00:37:46 --> 00:37:49

use religion or liturgy to impose a doctrine.

00:37:50 --> 00:37:52

Remember, at the time of the English reformation,

00:37:52 --> 00:37:53

in this country,

00:37:55 --> 00:37:57

the state was at liberty to change the

00:37:57 --> 00:37:58

form of worship.

00:37:59 --> 00:38:01

So the Apostle's Creed

00:38:01 --> 00:38:03

had to be read in all of the

00:38:03 --> 00:38:05

churches under Henry the 8th and Elizabeth the

00:38:05 --> 00:38:05

first,

00:38:06 --> 00:38:08

and it was obligatory to go to church.

00:38:08 --> 00:38:09

So if you didn't accept some of the

00:38:09 --> 00:38:11

things in the Apostle's creed, you could be

00:38:11 --> 00:38:12

arrested.

00:38:13 --> 00:38:15

Because they could just change their Ibadah. In

00:38:15 --> 00:38:17

Islam, you can't do that.

00:38:17 --> 00:38:20

No matter how outrageous the khalifa, he can't

00:38:20 --> 00:38:21

say, please pray now in a different way

00:38:21 --> 00:38:22

and insert something.

00:38:23 --> 00:38:25

So the only way in which the state

00:38:25 --> 00:38:25

can really

00:38:26 --> 00:38:28

impose a doctrine is by these strange maneuvers

00:38:28 --> 00:38:31

of threatening the scholars, or putting up big

00:38:31 --> 00:38:32

signs in the mosque,

00:38:33 --> 00:38:36

announcing this new doctrine. But they can't

00:38:36 --> 00:38:38

really press it into the heart of religion.

00:38:38 --> 00:38:40

Their power is very limited.

00:38:41 --> 00:38:41

So

00:38:42 --> 00:38:45

Mu'tasim, who's a soldier more interested in,

00:38:47 --> 00:38:48

battles,

00:38:49 --> 00:38:52

allows this ibn Abi Du'ad, this vizier, to

00:38:52 --> 00:38:53

continue with this policy.

00:38:55 --> 00:38:56

Imam Ahmad is in prison

00:38:57 --> 00:38:58

in Baghdad,

00:38:59 --> 00:39:02

and they're deciding what to do with him.

00:39:02 --> 00:39:05

He's asked to repent again. The caliph's messenger

00:39:05 --> 00:39:07

says, just just say something.

00:39:07 --> 00:39:10

It's embarrassing for the Sultan, just say something,

00:39:10 --> 00:39:11

but he refuses.

00:39:12 --> 00:39:14

And Imam Ahmed Ben Hanbal is flogged

00:39:15 --> 00:39:15

repeatedly

00:39:16 --> 00:39:19

and is in jail for 18 months,

00:39:19 --> 00:39:21

and he will not shift.

00:39:21 --> 00:39:24

He won't say anything other than, the Quran

00:39:24 --> 00:39:26

is God's speech. God has always had speech.

00:39:28 --> 00:39:29

So after these 18 months,

00:39:30 --> 00:39:33

when the masses are really pretty sympathetic to

00:39:33 --> 00:39:34

the Imam,

00:39:35 --> 00:39:36

they let him out again,

00:39:37 --> 00:39:38

and he hasn't

00:39:38 --> 00:39:40

changed his position.

00:39:41 --> 00:39:41

Immediately,

00:39:42 --> 00:39:43

although he's

00:39:44 --> 00:39:44

sick

00:39:45 --> 00:39:47

and wounded from being flogged

00:39:48 --> 00:39:49

for so long,

00:39:49 --> 00:39:52

he goes to the mosque, sits in his

00:39:52 --> 00:39:54

mosque, but until he's better,

00:39:54 --> 00:39:56

his wounds have healed. He doesn't

00:39:56 --> 00:39:57

teach.

00:39:58 --> 00:40:00

And then when his wounds are just scars,

00:40:00 --> 00:40:02

which he carries for the rest of his

00:40:02 --> 00:40:02

life,

00:40:03 --> 00:40:05

he begins again, Mem Appad Mahanbal

00:40:06 --> 00:40:08

teaching Hadith in his mosque.

00:40:09 --> 00:40:12

Mu'tazim dies, Alwathir, the new caliph,

00:40:12 --> 00:40:14

still can't get out of this rut, starts

00:40:14 --> 00:40:17

this inquisition again, but not so

00:40:18 --> 00:40:18

violently.

00:40:21 --> 00:40:24

Ibn Abu'ad manages to get ibn Hanbal, kind

00:40:24 --> 00:40:26

of, under house arrest.

00:40:26 --> 00:40:29

Just waits there until Al Wathir

00:40:29 --> 00:40:31

dies. So there's a period of about 5

00:40:31 --> 00:40:32

years until 232,

00:40:33 --> 00:40:35

when Imam Ahmad is is not teaching.

00:40:36 --> 00:40:38

Finally, Al Wathak dies.

00:40:39 --> 00:40:41

Imam Ahmad has not

00:40:41 --> 00:40:42

changed his position.

00:40:42 --> 00:40:44

The whole city turns out

00:40:44 --> 00:40:45

to welcome,

00:40:46 --> 00:40:48

Imam Ahmad as he goes in triumph to

00:40:48 --> 00:40:49

the mosque

00:40:50 --> 00:40:51

to teach Hadith

00:40:52 --> 00:40:54

Again, it's a great moment in the life

00:40:54 --> 00:40:56

of the city. And you have to remember

00:40:56 --> 00:40:57

that those were times

00:40:57 --> 00:40:58

when the scholars

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01

recognized that they need to be independent of

00:41:01 --> 00:41:02

the state, even if it meant that they

00:41:02 --> 00:41:03

got flogged.

00:41:04 --> 00:41:06

This is just the way of the,

00:41:07 --> 00:41:08

of the olamat.

00:41:09 --> 00:41:10

They are the representatives

00:41:11 --> 00:41:12

of the people

00:41:14 --> 00:41:15

to the ruler,

00:41:15 --> 00:41:18

not the other way around. In Christianity, it's

00:41:18 --> 00:41:20

the other way around because the bishop crowns

00:41:20 --> 00:41:21

the king, and

00:41:21 --> 00:41:23

the institution of the church is linked to

00:41:23 --> 00:41:24

the royal family,

00:41:25 --> 00:41:26

and together they rule.

00:41:27 --> 00:41:29

In Islam, the triangle works differently.

00:41:30 --> 00:41:31

The ruler is there,

00:41:31 --> 00:41:34

but the scholars are with the masses

00:41:34 --> 00:41:36

and represent the masses to

00:41:37 --> 00:41:39

the Sultan. I was reading just yesterday,

00:41:40 --> 00:41:42

the life of Mohideen ibn Arabi.

00:41:43 --> 00:41:44

He was once in Seville

00:41:45 --> 00:41:47

and went to a dinner with his disciples,

00:41:49 --> 00:41:50

and accepting hospitality.

00:41:50 --> 00:41:52

Muslim culture is a big thing.

00:41:52 --> 00:41:55

And his host says, thank you, Athan Wissahlen.

00:41:57 --> 00:41:58

I'd really like you

00:41:58 --> 00:41:59

to tell

00:41:59 --> 00:42:00

the ruler

00:42:01 --> 00:42:01

about

00:42:02 --> 00:42:04

a favor that I'd like to be done,

00:42:04 --> 00:42:07

because something wrong has been done, and I'd

00:42:07 --> 00:42:09

like him to to sort that out.

00:42:11 --> 00:42:13

And Ibn Arabi agrees,

00:42:13 --> 00:42:15

but doesn't stay for the meal,

00:42:16 --> 00:42:17

and takes his disciples out.

00:42:19 --> 00:42:20

Why is that?

00:42:20 --> 00:42:22

Because he doesn't want

00:42:23 --> 00:42:25

to be beholden to anybody. He's going to

00:42:25 --> 00:42:26

go to the sultan, going to tell him

00:42:26 --> 00:42:28

to sort himself out, but he's not going

00:42:28 --> 00:42:29

to be paid for that.

00:42:31 --> 00:42:32

That's the that's the way the olamat used

00:42:32 --> 00:42:35

to be, absolute detachment and concern for the

00:42:35 --> 00:42:36

masses.

00:42:38 --> 00:42:38

So

00:42:40 --> 00:42:41

we have the Imam

00:42:42 --> 00:42:43

still

00:42:43 --> 00:42:44

not accepting

00:42:45 --> 00:42:45

payment.

00:42:48 --> 00:42:50

So sometimes he would go out into the

00:42:50 --> 00:42:52

countryside, the Sawad around Baghdad,

00:42:52 --> 00:42:54

and ask for permission,

00:42:54 --> 00:42:56

once the harvest had been brought in, to

00:42:56 --> 00:42:58

see if he could walk around and find

00:42:58 --> 00:43:00

any grains of wheat that had been left

00:43:00 --> 00:43:02

behind. So he would be gleaning

00:43:02 --> 00:43:03

after the harvest.

00:43:04 --> 00:43:05

Sometimes,

00:43:05 --> 00:43:07

this great imam would earn a bit of

00:43:07 --> 00:43:09

money just by working as a copyist.

00:43:10 --> 00:43:12

Didn't have photocopiers then, so you'd get somebody

00:43:12 --> 00:43:13

to write things up.

00:43:14 --> 00:43:17

Sometimes he worked as a weaver.

00:43:18 --> 00:43:20

Did not accept gifts from caliphs or from

00:43:20 --> 00:43:21

governors,

00:43:23 --> 00:43:26

and he really didn't like it if his

00:43:26 --> 00:43:27

students or his colleagues

00:43:28 --> 00:43:31

ever accepted gifts, particularly from people in political

00:43:31 --> 00:43:32

authority.

00:43:32 --> 00:43:33

The modern

00:43:33 --> 00:43:36

idea of the kind of state Mufti with

00:43:36 --> 00:43:36

his

00:43:37 --> 00:43:40

limousine, would have been, you know, for him

00:43:40 --> 00:43:41

the opposite of Islam.

00:43:43 --> 00:43:46

This of course is one way in which

00:43:46 --> 00:43:47

the olema retain

00:43:47 --> 00:43:50

the love of the masses and incentivize the

00:43:50 --> 00:43:51

masses to practice

00:43:52 --> 00:43:54

religion. They have confidence in their

00:43:54 --> 00:43:55

leaders.

00:44:01 --> 00:44:04

Once Imam Shefaye went to him

00:44:04 --> 00:44:06

with a message from the ruler saying, we

00:44:06 --> 00:44:08

would like to appoint you to be a

00:44:08 --> 00:44:10

qadi, a judge in Yemen.

00:44:14 --> 00:44:16

But Imam Ahmad refused to do it because

00:44:16 --> 00:44:17

the salary

00:44:18 --> 00:44:20

was from the ruler and might contain some

00:44:20 --> 00:44:21

Shuba.

00:44:22 --> 00:44:23

Perhaps the money from the state

00:44:25 --> 00:44:28

contained money that had been taken from people

00:44:28 --> 00:44:28

unjustly,

00:44:29 --> 00:44:32

through unlawful taxation, or from bribes, or all

00:44:32 --> 00:44:33

kinds of corrupt

00:44:34 --> 00:44:35

sources of income

00:44:35 --> 00:44:38

flow into the coffers of the state. And

00:44:38 --> 00:44:39

this again, was one of

00:44:40 --> 00:44:42

the ways of particularly these olema who are

00:44:42 --> 00:44:44

engaging with the Sufis and the state of

00:44:44 --> 00:44:46

Wara and and Muhasaba,

00:44:47 --> 00:44:48

that they don't want

00:44:49 --> 00:44:49

anything

00:44:50 --> 00:44:52

to come into their bellies that is bought

00:44:52 --> 00:44:54

with money that might have come from extortion

00:44:54 --> 00:44:55

of any kind.

00:44:56 --> 00:44:57

So this day, in the city of Istanbul,

00:44:58 --> 00:45:00

the Sufis love to pray their Jumr in

00:45:00 --> 00:45:02

the mosque of Sultan Bayazid.

00:45:04 --> 00:45:06

Maybe not the Blue Mosque or the other

00:45:06 --> 00:45:08

mosque, Sultan Bayezid. Why is that?

00:45:09 --> 00:45:11

All of the Sultans knew that their income

00:45:11 --> 00:45:12

came from

00:45:13 --> 00:45:15

dubious sources very often.

00:45:15 --> 00:45:17

Sultan Bey said, when he built his mosque,

00:45:18 --> 00:45:19

said, I'm going to make sure that the

00:45:19 --> 00:45:22

money that is used to build my Sultanate

00:45:22 --> 00:45:24

mosque will absolutely only be from

00:45:25 --> 00:45:25

morally

00:45:25 --> 00:45:26

correct sources.

00:45:27 --> 00:45:29

There'll be no expropriation or stuff that I've

00:45:29 --> 00:45:32

taken from my enemies or bribes, or anything

00:45:32 --> 00:45:34

like that. Only halal money. And from that

00:45:34 --> 00:45:37

time to this, the Salihin of Istanbul have

00:45:37 --> 00:45:38

liked to pray their Jum'ah

00:45:40 --> 00:45:42

in that Bayezid mosque. And to be imam

00:45:42 --> 00:45:44

of the Bayezid mosque, and why is there

00:45:44 --> 00:45:47

something that is a source of particular pride

00:45:47 --> 00:45:49

for the, for the pure hearted. And I

00:45:49 --> 00:45:51

know scholars there who maintain that tradition are

00:45:51 --> 00:45:53

still very much, very much alive.

00:46:01 --> 00:46:02

So

00:46:03 --> 00:46:05

incidentally, Imam Ahmed is not doing it for

00:46:05 --> 00:46:06

him, but he

00:46:06 --> 00:46:09

he doesn't consider it haram to take

00:46:09 --> 00:46:12

a state salary. This is from his warah.

00:46:12 --> 00:46:14

He's not going to say there's some ruling

00:46:14 --> 00:46:16

in the sharia that proves that you can't

00:46:16 --> 00:46:17

be a judge and take money from the

00:46:17 --> 00:46:18

local governor.

00:46:19 --> 00:46:20

That's not there.

00:46:20 --> 00:46:21

But he's not going to do it himself

00:46:21 --> 00:46:24

because of this warat. Warat means scrupulousness.

00:46:27 --> 00:46:27

So

00:46:28 --> 00:46:30

in the city of Baghdad, this scrupulousness,

00:46:30 --> 00:46:31

this muhasaba,

00:46:32 --> 00:46:32

this asceticism,

00:46:33 --> 00:46:34

this holiness,

00:46:35 --> 00:46:36

comes,

00:46:38 --> 00:46:39

really in tandem with his great love for

00:46:39 --> 00:46:41

the Sufis. And I mentioned that

00:46:42 --> 00:46:44

more than the other great Imams, he is

00:46:44 --> 00:46:47

particularly concerned to spend time with them.

00:46:49 --> 00:46:52

In particular, he loved Maruf al Kalki, who's

00:46:52 --> 00:46:54

buried in Baghdad, and is one of

00:46:54 --> 00:46:55

the great,

00:46:56 --> 00:46:59

Auliya of Baghdad. He was originally a Christian,

00:46:59 --> 00:47:01

converted to Islam, and worker

00:47:01 --> 00:47:02

of miracles,

00:47:03 --> 00:47:04

and

00:47:06 --> 00:47:07

really a great

00:47:08 --> 00:47:11

a great individual. Sometimes somebody went to Imam

00:47:11 --> 00:47:11

Ahmad

00:47:12 --> 00:47:13

and said,

00:47:13 --> 00:47:15

this Ma'ruf is a convert. He doesn't have

00:47:15 --> 00:47:16

much 'alma.'

00:47:17 --> 00:47:19

Then Ahmed became angry

00:47:20 --> 00:47:22

and said, is true knowledge anything other than

00:47:22 --> 00:47:24

what Ma'ruf has achieved?

00:47:25 --> 00:47:27

Hadith and so forth, 100,000 hadith is memorized,

00:47:27 --> 00:47:28

200, who knows?

00:47:29 --> 00:47:32

But real knowledge is the direct knowledge of

00:47:32 --> 00:47:32

your creator.

00:47:33 --> 00:47:36

Hadith is something that needs to be done

00:47:36 --> 00:47:38

and gives you the fragrance of the chosen

00:47:38 --> 00:47:38

one

00:47:39 --> 00:47:41

But real Ma'rifah, knowledge of God,

00:47:43 --> 00:47:44

that's an end in itself,

00:47:45 --> 00:47:46

not a means to an end.

00:47:48 --> 00:47:49

He also loved

00:47:52 --> 00:47:54

the Sufis because of their Murabata. This was

00:47:54 --> 00:47:57

a practice in medieval Islam that you would

00:47:57 --> 00:47:59

spend some time, maybe every year, at the

00:47:59 --> 00:48:01

front line defending the Dar eslam

00:48:02 --> 00:48:03

from the byzantines,

00:48:03 --> 00:48:05

in most cases. You'll go to Rebat, a

00:48:05 --> 00:48:08

frontier fortress, maybe on some frozen hilltop

00:48:08 --> 00:48:09

somewhere in Asia Minor,

00:48:10 --> 00:48:11

to defend the Darul Islam.

00:48:12 --> 00:48:14

And Ma'ruf al Karkhi was famous for this.

00:48:14 --> 00:48:17

Bishr al Hafi also, Bishr of the barefoot,

00:48:18 --> 00:48:20

Great saint of Baghdad was also known as

00:48:20 --> 00:48:20

the great

00:48:21 --> 00:48:21

Mujahid

00:48:22 --> 00:48:23

and and Murabit.

00:48:26 --> 00:48:27

Yeah. Bishra al Hafi,

00:48:28 --> 00:48:30

always useful to remember these people. And Imam

00:48:30 --> 00:48:32

Ahmed is always zealous to keep the

00:48:32 --> 00:48:33

company.

00:48:34 --> 00:48:37

Even though Bishra was a, Hanafi in his

00:48:37 --> 00:48:40

madhab, and Imam Darukotni praises him for the

00:48:40 --> 00:48:42

reliability of his hadith

00:48:43 --> 00:48:46

narrators. He calls him jabal, thicka, a mountain.

00:48:47 --> 00:48:49

It's a kind of technical term in describing

00:48:49 --> 00:48:49

the

00:48:50 --> 00:48:53

the the immensity of a scholar's knowledge. Thicker,

00:48:53 --> 00:48:53

reliable.

00:48:54 --> 00:48:57

But Bishr al Hafi, mainly known today as

00:48:57 --> 00:48:59

one of the great Sufis of of Baghdad.

00:49:02 --> 00:49:04

Once, Bishr al met a drunkard on the

00:49:04 --> 00:49:05

road who

00:49:06 --> 00:49:08

came up to him, hugged him.

00:49:09 --> 00:49:11

Said, yes, say ye thee, oh my master.

00:49:12 --> 00:49:13

Bishuram,

00:49:13 --> 00:49:14

according to the eyewitnesses,

00:49:15 --> 00:49:17

doesn't push him away. You know, if a

00:49:17 --> 00:49:19

drunk came up to me in Cambridge and

00:49:19 --> 00:49:20

hugged me, I said,

00:49:21 --> 00:49:22

get away.

00:49:23 --> 00:49:24

Bishu doesn't do that,

00:49:25 --> 00:49:27

and allows him to hug him, and kiss

00:49:27 --> 00:49:29

him, and lets him finish till he gets

00:49:29 --> 00:49:30

fed up.

00:49:30 --> 00:49:31

And then

00:49:31 --> 00:49:32

Bishop

00:49:32 --> 00:49:35

starts to cry. People are watching this weird

00:49:35 --> 00:49:38

event. His eyes fill with tears and he

00:49:38 --> 00:49:39

cries. And he says,

00:49:41 --> 00:49:43

here is a man who loves another man,

00:49:43 --> 00:49:45

because he thinks there's some good in him.

00:49:46 --> 00:49:48

But perhaps the lover is saved, while the

00:49:48 --> 00:49:50

one who is loved is unsure about his

00:49:50 --> 00:49:51

final destination.

00:49:52 --> 00:49:55

So he's not embarrassed by the encounter, still

00:49:55 --> 00:49:58

less does he become all superior about it.

00:49:58 --> 00:50:00

He's just moved that the man has loved

00:50:00 --> 00:50:03

him, even though Bishop thinks that he himself

00:50:03 --> 00:50:05

is not worthy of that love. So he's

00:50:05 --> 00:50:05

kind of

00:50:06 --> 00:50:06

humbled

00:50:07 --> 00:50:08

by this man's love.

00:50:10 --> 00:50:11

We've changed a lot, but this is how

00:50:11 --> 00:50:13

they were. And these are the people Imam

00:50:13 --> 00:50:14

Ahmad

00:50:14 --> 00:50:15

loved.

00:50:17 --> 00:50:19

His Zahid, we mentioned, but of course

00:50:19 --> 00:50:21

the marriage is a sunnah.

00:50:22 --> 00:50:24

So he marries, it seems

00:50:24 --> 00:50:25

twice.

00:50:25 --> 00:50:27

His first wife is Abu Abbasa,

00:50:28 --> 00:50:30

who bears him his son, Saleh.

00:50:31 --> 00:50:34

She dies under sad circumstances, and then marries

00:50:34 --> 00:50:35

another woman, an Arab woman

00:50:35 --> 00:50:36

called Rehana.

00:50:37 --> 00:50:40

She is the mother of the better known

00:50:40 --> 00:50:40

Abdulla

00:50:41 --> 00:50:42

Ben Ahmed Ben Hanbal.

00:50:43 --> 00:50:44

She too dies.

00:50:45 --> 00:50:46

And he says,

00:50:46 --> 00:50:49

may Allah have mercy upon her. We lived

00:50:49 --> 00:50:50

together for 20 years,

00:50:51 --> 00:50:52

and we never quarreled once.

00:50:53 --> 00:50:55

That was it. After that he didn't marry

00:50:56 --> 00:50:56

again.

00:50:57 --> 00:50:59

Yeah. So in his home life, he was

00:50:59 --> 00:50:59

also this

00:51:00 --> 00:51:01

exemplary person.

00:51:05 --> 00:51:07

He is also in Baghdad

00:51:07 --> 00:51:10

promoting the correct belief about,

00:51:12 --> 00:51:14

how you assess other people.

00:51:14 --> 00:51:16

Since the time of the early fitners, this

00:51:16 --> 00:51:18

has been a divisive issue.

00:51:19 --> 00:51:22

What about those Sahaba who took opposing sides?

00:51:22 --> 00:51:23

What about the Khawarij?

00:51:24 --> 00:51:24

What about

00:51:25 --> 00:51:25

the Mu'tazilah?

00:51:26 --> 00:51:27

Who's a believer? Who's not a believer? This

00:51:27 --> 00:51:30

has big implications, because it means who you

00:51:30 --> 00:51:31

can marry, inheritance.

00:51:33 --> 00:51:34

It's a life or death issue.

00:51:37 --> 00:51:40

His belief is that the Sahib al Kabira,

00:51:40 --> 00:51:42

the person of mortal

00:51:42 --> 00:51:44

sins, is still a believer.

00:51:45 --> 00:51:47

For the Kharijites, they said, a person who

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49

commits a mortal sin is an unbeliever.

00:51:50 --> 00:51:51

You commit murder

00:51:51 --> 00:51:54

or adultery or something, you're kafir. That's the

00:51:54 --> 00:51:55

Kharijite

00:51:55 --> 00:51:56

position.

00:51:57 --> 00:51:59

Hassanal Basri had said, such a person can

00:51:59 --> 00:52:00

be judged to be a monathak.

00:52:02 --> 00:52:02

Motesilites

00:52:02 --> 00:52:05

had this strange idea of there being a

00:52:05 --> 00:52:07

kind of space between belief and unbelief.

00:52:07 --> 00:52:08

The manzilabeinor

00:52:09 --> 00:52:09

manzilatein,

00:52:10 --> 00:52:12

person could be called a Muslim,

00:52:12 --> 00:52:13

but not really.

00:52:14 --> 00:52:14

So he's

00:52:15 --> 00:52:17

we call him a Muslim, but he's still

00:52:17 --> 00:52:20

going to * forever, because the Moatazalite logic

00:52:20 --> 00:52:23

was that if you deliberately disobey God in

00:52:23 --> 00:52:25

a matter of mortal sin,

00:52:26 --> 00:52:28

God's going to send you to * and

00:52:28 --> 00:52:29

has to, because

00:52:29 --> 00:52:32

he's just. And in their view, his justice

00:52:32 --> 00:52:34

means that he has to punish sinners. That

00:52:34 --> 00:52:37

Moatazilite got is very kind of constrained by

00:52:37 --> 00:52:39

these abstract ideas of what he can and

00:52:39 --> 00:52:41

can't do, which is one reason really why

00:52:41 --> 00:52:42

the Ummah eventually

00:52:43 --> 00:52:45

walked away from their position.

00:52:46 --> 00:52:47

For the 4 Imams,

00:52:48 --> 00:52:51

a mortal sinner is still a believer,

00:52:52 --> 00:52:53

and what happens to him in the afterlife

00:52:53 --> 00:52:54

is left to Allah.

00:52:58 --> 00:52:59

So Imam Ahmad says,

00:53:12 --> 00:53:14

This is Imam Ahmed's position.

00:53:14 --> 00:53:16

It's the position of Sunni Islam.

00:53:16 --> 00:53:17

We do not

00:53:19 --> 00:53:19

judge

00:53:20 --> 00:53:20

anybody

00:53:21 --> 00:53:24

to be in heaven or * because of

00:53:24 --> 00:53:25

any action that they do.

00:53:26 --> 00:53:28

We have hopes for the righteous person.

00:53:29 --> 00:53:29

We are fearful

00:53:30 --> 00:53:33

for the unrighteous person who commits sins, but

00:53:33 --> 00:53:35

we still hope that Allah's mercy

00:53:35 --> 00:53:36

will prevail

00:53:37 --> 00:53:37

in his case.

00:53:39 --> 00:53:39

So this

00:53:40 --> 00:53:42

is part of the the beauty and the

00:53:42 --> 00:53:45

inclusivity of Sunni Islam, that the true believer

00:53:45 --> 00:53:46

is naturally

00:53:47 --> 00:53:49

repelled by the idea of making takfir of

00:53:49 --> 00:53:50

anyone.

00:53:50 --> 00:53:52

And the person of weak iman,

00:53:52 --> 00:53:53

or the heretic,

00:53:54 --> 00:53:55

or the Khariji,

00:53:55 --> 00:53:56

or the Munafak,

00:53:57 --> 00:53:58

is very quick to say,

00:53:59 --> 00:54:00

this is wrong, this is kufr.

00:54:02 --> 00:54:04

And that's one of the hallmarks of the

00:54:04 --> 00:54:05

traditional scholar.

00:54:06 --> 00:54:08

Real real reluctance to say,

00:54:08 --> 00:54:10

that anybody is kefir.

00:54:14 --> 00:54:15

How did he do his Fiqh?

00:54:16 --> 00:54:19

After all, so far our account has apparently

00:54:19 --> 00:54:20

been of a Hadith scholar,

00:54:20 --> 00:54:22

but he's the founder of a madhab,

00:54:22 --> 00:54:24

which is madhab a fiqh.

00:54:24 --> 00:54:27

So what's characteristic of his fiqh that becomes

00:54:28 --> 00:54:29

alfaqalhanbali?

00:54:31 --> 00:54:33

He used to like to begin his fatwas

00:54:34 --> 00:54:35

with the word haddathanah.

00:54:36 --> 00:54:38

In other words, it's going to begin with

00:54:38 --> 00:54:38

a hadith.

00:54:39 --> 00:54:41

He was famous for that. If on an

00:54:41 --> 00:54:44

issue that he was asked about, he couldn't

00:54:44 --> 00:54:45

find a hadith,

00:54:46 --> 00:54:49

he would find if the Sahaba ever had

00:54:49 --> 00:54:51

an Ijmaq, a unanimous position amongst themselves.

00:54:53 --> 00:54:55

If they took different views, or there wasn't

00:54:55 --> 00:54:58

anything evident in their views, he would take

00:54:58 --> 00:54:59

a view from the Teberin,

00:55:00 --> 00:55:01

the disciples of the Sahaba.

00:55:03 --> 00:55:03

Or sometimes

00:55:04 --> 00:55:06

a view from an early scholar such as

00:55:06 --> 00:55:08

Malik or Al Hawza'i in particular.

00:55:11 --> 00:55:13

If there's nothing to contradict it, he will

00:55:13 --> 00:55:13

accept

00:55:14 --> 00:55:16

a mursal or even a weak hadith. That

00:55:16 --> 00:55:18

is to say, the one that's disconnected in

00:55:18 --> 00:55:21

its chain in a particular way, or a

00:55:21 --> 00:55:22

weak hadith.

00:55:22 --> 00:55:25

But that hadith can't contradict the verdict of

00:55:25 --> 00:55:26

a companion.

00:55:27 --> 00:55:29

So because of this strong hadith centeredness,

00:55:30 --> 00:55:32

the Hanbalis are more inclined to

00:55:33 --> 00:55:35

find as many hadiths as they can, even

00:55:35 --> 00:55:37

if they don't meet the full degree of

00:55:38 --> 00:55:38

authenticity

00:55:39 --> 00:55:41

than the other madhhabs. And this is why

00:55:42 --> 00:55:43

a lot of modern fundamentalists,

00:55:44 --> 00:55:47

when they study Imam Ahmad's way, don't really

00:55:47 --> 00:55:49

like him, because he seems to

00:55:50 --> 00:55:52

find ways of using weak hadiths, which very

00:55:52 --> 00:55:53

often

00:55:53 --> 00:55:54

they will,

00:55:54 --> 00:55:55

refuse.

00:55:55 --> 00:55:56

Imam Ahmad's

00:55:57 --> 00:56:00

Madhab and his firkuh has been more seriously

00:56:00 --> 00:56:01

and dangerously misunderstood

00:56:02 --> 00:56:04

than the madhab and the firk of any

00:56:04 --> 00:56:05

of the other Sunni Imams.

00:56:07 --> 00:56:09

So for Imam Ahmad, the word sunnah

00:56:10 --> 00:56:13

means the Hadith, including weak Hadith

00:56:13 --> 00:56:16

and the fatwas of the Sahaba.

00:56:18 --> 00:56:20

What about PS and logical deduction?

00:56:21 --> 00:56:23

Can you look to see what is the

00:56:23 --> 00:56:25

reason for a prohibition that is present in

00:56:25 --> 00:56:26

scripture,

00:56:27 --> 00:56:28

and use that reason

00:56:28 --> 00:56:31

in order to deduce a fatwa for a

00:56:31 --> 00:56:32

case that's not present in scripture.

00:56:35 --> 00:56:38

He says, you can, and the Hanbalists allow

00:56:38 --> 00:56:40

sorts of analogical deduction,

00:56:40 --> 00:56:42

but only if absolutely necessary.

00:56:43 --> 00:56:45

Unlike the Hanafis, who tend to use kias

00:56:46 --> 00:56:47

in their Ijtihad

00:56:47 --> 00:56:48

very considerably.

00:56:50 --> 00:56:52

There's something also very practical about his firk.

00:56:52 --> 00:56:53

He doesn't like the Iftirad,

00:56:54 --> 00:56:55

the supposition.

00:56:57 --> 00:57:00

What if? He will only give a fattwa

00:57:00 --> 00:57:02

on something that has actually occurred,

00:57:03 --> 00:57:06

unlike say, the method of Abu Hanifa.

00:57:08 --> 00:57:10

He doesn't allow any kind of Istihad

00:57:11 --> 00:57:12

or kriyas

00:57:13 --> 00:57:15

or rationality in anything that's to do with

00:57:15 --> 00:57:17

worship as such with Ibadat.

00:57:18 --> 00:57:19

But in Muhammedalet,

00:57:20 --> 00:57:21

public law, public transactions,

00:57:23 --> 00:57:24

he would

00:57:24 --> 00:57:27

actually allow a good deal of latitude. This

00:57:27 --> 00:57:28

idea we have of the humble is as

00:57:28 --> 00:57:29

being

00:57:30 --> 00:57:30

strict,

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33

isn't really accurate at all.

00:57:36 --> 00:57:39

So the basis for the ruling of things

00:57:39 --> 00:57:41

in Aybadde is that everything is forbidden, unless

00:57:41 --> 00:57:43

you can find a text that indicates that

00:57:43 --> 00:57:45

you can do this thing.

00:57:45 --> 00:57:46

Whereas in

00:57:47 --> 00:57:48

ordinary human transactions,

00:57:48 --> 00:57:49

relations,

00:57:49 --> 00:57:51

deals, and so forth, the basis of them

00:57:51 --> 00:57:53

is that they are sound, unless you can

00:57:53 --> 00:57:54

find a text

00:57:54 --> 00:57:56

or possibly a ps,

00:57:56 --> 00:57:59

that indicates that those things are forbidden.

00:58:00 --> 00:58:02

So actually, the Hanbali Mathab turns out to

00:58:02 --> 00:58:04

be quite flexible, particularly when relating

00:58:05 --> 00:58:05

to issues

00:58:06 --> 00:58:07

that are

00:58:07 --> 00:58:10

new, for which there wasn't a hadith.

00:58:10 --> 00:58:12

So a lot of fatwas in modern Islamic

00:58:12 --> 00:58:15

banking, for instance, are actually from the Hanbali

00:58:15 --> 00:58:15

position.

00:58:16 --> 00:58:18

Because of this idea that things, unless they're

00:58:18 --> 00:58:19

explicitly forbidden,

00:58:19 --> 00:58:22

are just fine. Some of the olemmat would

00:58:22 --> 00:58:25

say that that as humanity moves away from

00:58:25 --> 00:58:27

the world covered by the hadith,

00:58:28 --> 00:58:31

humanity encounters more and more different situations.

00:58:32 --> 00:58:34

Will actually mean that religion has less and

00:58:34 --> 00:58:35

less to say to those situations.

00:58:35 --> 00:58:37

It's new, it's not in the hadith, it's

00:58:37 --> 00:58:40

kind of Mubah. But that's a generalization, because

00:58:40 --> 00:58:43

on important issues the Hanbalists will always struggle

00:58:43 --> 00:58:44

to find some kind of text based

00:58:45 --> 00:58:46

reason to have an Ijdihad,

00:58:47 --> 00:58:48

rather than just leaving it as a kind

00:58:48 --> 00:58:49

of secular space.

00:58:52 --> 00:58:55

If there's no noss though, no text

00:58:56 --> 00:58:58

on an issue, he will often seek to

00:58:58 --> 00:58:59

determine

00:59:00 --> 00:59:02

the maslaha or the public interest.

00:59:03 --> 00:59:06

Rather like Malik does, but possibly a little

00:59:06 --> 00:59:07

bit less. And of course,

00:59:07 --> 00:59:08

Malik's

00:59:09 --> 00:59:10

focus on the practice of the people of

00:59:10 --> 00:59:13

Medina is not something that is central to

00:59:13 --> 00:59:14

Imam Ahmad's

00:59:14 --> 00:59:15

system.

00:59:16 --> 00:59:17

But here again,

00:59:17 --> 00:59:20

when we have the stereotype of the Hanbali's

00:59:20 --> 00:59:21

as being irrational

00:59:21 --> 00:59:22

and just

00:59:22 --> 00:59:23

text

00:59:23 --> 00:59:26

based. In order to determine where the public

00:59:26 --> 00:59:28

interest is, what is the Maslaha,

00:59:29 --> 00:59:31

you need some kind of rational

00:59:32 --> 00:59:34

analysis of that thing. Is it in the

00:59:34 --> 00:59:35

interests of the Ummah

00:59:36 --> 00:59:38

that there should be shari'a compliant hedge funds,

00:59:38 --> 00:59:39

for instance?

00:59:40 --> 00:59:41

Just suppose

00:59:41 --> 00:59:44

anybody would be weird enough to ask such

00:59:44 --> 00:59:44

a question.

00:59:45 --> 00:59:47

Imam Ahmad wouldn't say, just Mubah not mentioned

00:59:47 --> 00:59:49

in that. He'd say, where's the Maslaha? Where

00:59:49 --> 00:59:52

is the interest? And determining that interest does

00:59:52 --> 00:59:53

involve the Hanbali thinkers

00:59:53 --> 00:59:54

necessarily

00:59:54 --> 00:59:56

in a certain amount of of

00:59:57 --> 00:59:57

of ratiocination

00:59:59 --> 01:00:01

and reasoning it out. But there is a

01:00:01 --> 01:00:02

wing of the Hanbalis,

01:00:02 --> 01:00:04

represented famously

01:00:05 --> 01:00:07

by somebody called Nejmeddin Tawfi,

01:00:07 --> 01:00:09

a later Egyptian Hanbali.

01:00:10 --> 01:00:12

Which takes the view that just about anything

01:00:12 --> 01:00:14

in Sharia can be adjusted or defined,

01:00:15 --> 01:00:17

if you can figure out where public interest

01:00:17 --> 01:00:17

lies.

01:00:18 --> 01:00:20

So quite a lot of modern reformers like

01:00:20 --> 01:00:22

to use Najmuddin Tawfi and that type of

01:00:22 --> 01:00:23

Hanbalism.

01:00:23 --> 01:00:25

So again, we have to get away from

01:00:25 --> 01:00:26

the idea that this is a super strict

01:00:26 --> 01:00:28

madhab, that these are fundamentalists,

01:00:29 --> 01:00:32

and into a rather different and more nuanced

01:00:33 --> 01:00:33

understanding.

01:00:36 --> 01:00:37

I mentioned

01:00:37 --> 01:00:39

his tremendous love of

01:00:40 --> 01:00:43

the chosen one, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. He

01:00:43 --> 01:00:45

was really a follower of the inward, as

01:00:45 --> 01:00:47

well as the outward sunnah. This is one

01:00:47 --> 01:00:49

reason for his love of the Sufis, because

01:00:49 --> 01:00:51

he saw in them the holiness of Islam,

01:00:51 --> 01:00:53

rather than just the outward compliance.

01:00:54 --> 01:00:56

He had a particular attachment to the city

01:00:56 --> 01:00:57

of Medina.

01:00:58 --> 01:00:59

I mentioned,

01:01:00 --> 01:01:01

the fact that he asked to be buried

01:01:01 --> 01:01:04

with 3 hairs from the holy prophet. His

01:01:04 --> 01:01:06

son, 'Abdallah, reported a lot of things that

01:01:06 --> 01:01:07

he'd seen in his father. He used to

01:01:07 --> 01:01:09

keep, for instance, hair from the beard of

01:01:09 --> 01:01:12

the holy prophet, salallahu alayhi wa sallam. Sometimes

01:01:12 --> 01:01:13

put it in water,

01:01:14 --> 01:01:15

take it out, and then drink

01:01:16 --> 01:01:17

the water for the

01:01:17 --> 01:01:18

blessings.

01:01:18 --> 01:01:21

In the city of Medina, the bowl, qaza,

01:01:21 --> 01:01:23

from which the Holy Prophet used to drink,

01:01:23 --> 01:01:24

was conserved.

01:01:24 --> 01:01:26

When he passed through Medina, he would

01:01:27 --> 01:01:29

ask to see it and would take Baraka

01:01:29 --> 01:01:31

by drinking from it himself.

01:01:34 --> 01:01:34

So,

01:01:36 --> 01:01:38

we're getting now, I think, what is a

01:01:38 --> 01:01:41

rather different image of this great imam,

01:01:41 --> 01:01:44

from the conventional one, that says the Hanbalists

01:01:44 --> 01:01:47

kind of lead on to Iben Tamia, and

01:01:47 --> 01:01:49

Iben Tamia leads on to Mohammed bin Abdulwaherb.

01:01:49 --> 01:01:52

Mohammed bin Abdulwaherb leads on to ISIS, and

01:01:52 --> 01:01:52

it's all

01:01:53 --> 01:01:55

from this. That's not the case at all.

01:01:56 --> 01:01:58

Real scholars on the math of Imam Ahmad

01:01:58 --> 01:02:01

and traditional Hanbalists would say, we have nothing

01:02:01 --> 01:02:02

to do with any of that stuff. This

01:02:02 --> 01:02:05

is a method of mercy, and of prophetic

01:02:05 --> 01:02:08

love, and of closeness to the to Allah's

01:02:08 --> 01:02:09

people, to the Auliya.

01:02:10 --> 01:02:13

But before we finish, we should of course

01:02:13 --> 01:02:15

think a little bit about the greatest book

01:02:15 --> 01:02:18

that Imam Ahmad left us with,

01:02:19 --> 01:02:21

which is he wrote several books or compiled

01:02:21 --> 01:02:22

several books,

01:02:23 --> 01:02:24

including his katabazuhud,

01:02:24 --> 01:02:26

which is a very useful collection

01:02:27 --> 01:02:28

of hadiths,

01:02:28 --> 01:02:30

mainly about renunciation

01:02:31 --> 01:02:32

and leaving dunya.

01:02:34 --> 01:02:36

But his great book, of course, is his

01:02:36 --> 01:02:39

famous Musnad, which is one of the 8

01:02:39 --> 01:02:42

or so really great hadith collections, and very

01:02:42 --> 01:02:44

important for all of the madhhabs.

01:02:45 --> 01:02:48

And really a brilliant monument of scholarship.

01:02:49 --> 01:02:53

Hamdulillah, the sunnah project, which has connections

01:02:53 --> 01:02:56

here in Cambridge, and Alsar as well, brought

01:02:56 --> 01:02:57

out quite recently

01:02:58 --> 01:03:00

a complete new addition of the Musnad of

01:03:00 --> 01:03:01

Ahmed bin Hanbal.

01:03:02 --> 01:03:05

The first really good edition that there's ever

01:03:05 --> 01:03:07

been. They found hadiths that were in the

01:03:07 --> 01:03:10

earliest manuscripts that hadn't been published before, unfortunately,

01:03:10 --> 01:03:12

because of the decadence of so much middle

01:03:12 --> 01:03:14

eastern publishing. But this is we have it

01:03:14 --> 01:03:15

in our library at CMC,

01:03:16 --> 01:03:16

really beautiful,

01:03:17 --> 01:03:18

respectful

01:03:20 --> 01:03:22

Imam Ahmad. And the book is just so

01:03:22 --> 01:03:23

beautiful.

01:03:24 --> 01:03:25

About 27,000

01:03:26 --> 01:03:29

hadiths in it, so bigger than Bukhari Muslim.

01:03:29 --> 01:03:29

It's

01:03:30 --> 01:03:32

heavy. 13 volumes or something in the new

01:03:32 --> 01:03:33

edition. You

01:03:33 --> 01:03:34

would risk,

01:03:34 --> 01:03:36

sort of lower back pain if you try

01:03:36 --> 01:03:38

to carry the whole thing.

01:03:40 --> 01:03:41

But what's

01:03:42 --> 01:03:42

characteristic

01:03:42 --> 01:03:43

about

01:03:43 --> 01:03:46

this book, other than unlike say, the Sahihab

01:03:46 --> 01:03:49

Bukhary, is that those other books are often

01:03:49 --> 01:03:50

arranged

01:03:51 --> 01:03:52

according to subject.

01:03:53 --> 01:03:53

A Musnad

01:03:54 --> 01:03:56

is a collection of hadith

01:03:57 --> 01:03:58

that is arranged

01:03:58 --> 01:04:01

according to the name of the companion who

01:04:01 --> 01:04:02

narrated that hadith.

01:04:04 --> 01:04:06

And he actually begins with the 10,

01:04:07 --> 01:04:09

companions who are guaranteed

01:04:09 --> 01:04:11

paradise while they still live, the Asherah Mubasharah

01:04:12 --> 01:04:13

Mubasharina

01:04:13 --> 01:04:13

Biljena.

01:04:14 --> 01:04:16

Then he goes on through all of the

01:04:16 --> 01:04:18

Sahaba. So there's Musnad of Baisha

01:04:18 --> 01:04:19

and a

01:04:19 --> 01:04:20

of Abu Huraira.

01:04:22 --> 01:04:24

And that makes it a little bit specialized,

01:04:24 --> 01:04:26

difficult to use.

01:04:26 --> 01:04:27

You can pick up buhari,

01:04:29 --> 01:04:31

and say, well let me see some hadiths

01:04:31 --> 01:04:33

about Udo, and there they are.

01:04:33 --> 01:04:34

Of course, if you want to know how

01:04:34 --> 01:04:35

to do wudu, you look at a book

01:04:35 --> 01:04:37

of fiqh, because you might misunderstand

01:04:37 --> 01:04:38

the hadith.

01:04:41 --> 01:04:44

But in the Muslim of Imam Ahmad, if

01:04:44 --> 01:04:46

you want to find a hadith about Wodaw,

01:04:47 --> 01:04:49

you have to find, well, the new edition,

01:04:49 --> 01:04:50

which has a lot of

01:04:51 --> 01:04:52

indexes,

01:04:52 --> 01:04:54

and then you can look it up. But

01:04:54 --> 01:04:55

it's kind of

01:04:55 --> 01:04:57

it takes some time. So it's a very

01:04:58 --> 01:05:01

specialized scholar's work. It's kind of encyclopedic, but

01:05:01 --> 01:05:04

according to a specialized principle for those for

01:05:04 --> 01:05:07

whom knowledge of the ISN ad is vital,

01:05:07 --> 01:05:09

and those whose memorization is so amazing

01:05:10 --> 01:05:13

that they will actually remember hadiths by the

01:05:13 --> 01:05:13

isnad.

01:05:14 --> 01:05:16

Ah, this is the hadith of Abu Sayid

01:05:16 --> 01:05:18

al Khudri. And they'll think that before they

01:05:18 --> 01:05:21

actually think of the subject of the hadith.

01:05:21 --> 01:05:23

You can hardly find such people nowadays.

01:05:24 --> 01:05:24

But this

01:05:25 --> 01:05:28

is how they were with their amazing eidetic

01:05:28 --> 01:05:31

memory. So it's a recollection of a time

01:05:32 --> 01:05:33

of gigantic,

01:05:34 --> 01:05:34

scholarly

01:05:35 --> 01:05:35

erudition

01:05:36 --> 01:05:36

and wisdom.

01:05:37 --> 01:05:40

And it is a book that continues to

01:05:40 --> 01:05:41

be

01:05:41 --> 01:05:43

a vital treasury

01:05:43 --> 01:05:44

of

01:05:45 --> 01:05:46

the prophetic sunnah.

01:05:47 --> 01:05:48

So

01:05:50 --> 01:05:53

we've really come to the end of this

01:05:54 --> 01:05:57

quick visit to the life of Imam Ahmad,

01:05:58 --> 01:06:01

which was a quiet scholar's life, apart from

01:06:01 --> 01:06:03

the the great tumult at the time of

01:06:03 --> 01:06:04

the

01:06:04 --> 01:06:05

the fitna.

01:06:07 --> 01:06:09

But the important thing to bear in mind

01:06:09 --> 01:06:12

is that we need to push away the

01:06:12 --> 01:06:14

conventional stereotype that says it was the beginning

01:06:14 --> 01:06:17

of stupid fundamentalism in Islam

01:06:17 --> 01:06:20

and a rejection of rationality and compassion. On

01:06:20 --> 01:06:21

the contrary,

01:06:21 --> 01:06:23

this is a highly spiritual person.

01:06:24 --> 01:06:25

And his madhab

01:06:26 --> 01:06:27

was very often the madhab of the Sufis

01:06:28 --> 01:06:28

subsequently,

01:06:29 --> 01:06:32

who is maybe the greatest best known Sufi

01:06:32 --> 01:06:34

in Baghdad, Abdulqad al Jilani,

01:06:34 --> 01:06:36

who is humbly in his doctrine and in

01:06:36 --> 01:06:37

his fiqh.

01:06:38 --> 01:06:40

One of the greatest early

01:06:40 --> 01:06:42

Sufis of what's now Afghanistan,

01:06:42 --> 01:06:44

Khwaja 'Abdallah Ansari

01:06:44 --> 01:06:45

of Herat,

01:06:46 --> 01:06:46

Hanbali.

01:06:47 --> 01:06:48

The first

01:06:48 --> 01:06:49

Sufi tafsir

01:06:50 --> 01:06:51

in Persian

01:06:51 --> 01:06:53

is by Rashiduddin Meibodi,

01:06:54 --> 01:06:55

a Hanbali.

01:06:56 --> 01:06:58

So, yeah, we need to get out of

01:06:58 --> 01:07:00

this idea that this is something that's

01:07:01 --> 01:07:02

form formalistic,

01:07:03 --> 01:07:03

legalistic,

01:07:04 --> 01:07:04

exoteric,

01:07:05 --> 01:07:07

uninterested in the living heart of religion. It's

01:07:08 --> 01:07:10

simply not the case. There is always in

01:07:10 --> 01:07:11

Islam a very close symbiosis

01:07:12 --> 01:07:15

between the Ahlul Hadith, the real Hadith scholars,

01:07:15 --> 01:07:18

and a kind of prophetic devotion and a

01:07:18 --> 01:07:19

love of the Auliya.

01:07:19 --> 01:07:21

And when you think about it, you couldn't

01:07:21 --> 01:07:24

really separate the 2. A mark of real

01:07:24 --> 01:07:25

love for hadith is a love for the

01:07:25 --> 01:07:28

Auliya and those whose lives are transformed

01:07:28 --> 01:07:30

in this holy and beautiful way by

01:07:31 --> 01:07:32

recollection of the chosen one

01:07:35 --> 01:07:35

So,

01:07:37 --> 01:07:39

that essentially is the story. And we just

01:07:39 --> 01:07:40

have to ask Allah

01:07:41 --> 01:07:42

that the current misunderstandings

01:07:43 --> 01:07:44

of the way of Imam Ahmad,

01:07:45 --> 01:07:46

which are a kind of compounded

01:07:47 --> 01:07:48

ignorance based on a misunderstanding

01:07:49 --> 01:07:50

of the nature of the hadith, and the

01:07:50 --> 01:07:52

nature of how we read hadith,

01:07:52 --> 01:07:53

and the

01:07:54 --> 01:07:57

nature of Ikhilaf and difference of opinion is

01:07:57 --> 01:07:58

in Islam. Those misunderstandings

01:07:59 --> 01:07:59

are overcome,

01:08:00 --> 01:08:01

insha'Allah, so that

01:08:02 --> 01:08:05

the beauty and the ironic inclusivity of classical

01:08:05 --> 01:08:08

Sunni Islam, which these imams worked so hard

01:08:08 --> 01:08:11

to maintain and defend, is restored again. So

01:08:11 --> 01:08:13

that being Ahlus Sunnah wal Jema'ah is once

01:08:13 --> 01:08:15

again this beautiful, spiritual,

01:08:16 --> 01:08:16

inclusive,

01:08:16 --> 01:08:17

authentic thing

01:08:18 --> 01:08:19

that genuinely conserves

01:08:19 --> 01:08:22

the reality of the prophetic sunnah, rather than

01:08:22 --> 01:08:26

just certain poorly understood aspects of its form.

01:08:26 --> 01:08:27

So may Allah

01:08:27 --> 01:08:29

have mercy on Imam Ahmed

01:08:30 --> 01:08:31

and grant us the benefit of

01:08:32 --> 01:08:34

understanding the life of Imam Ahmed and bless

01:08:34 --> 01:08:35

all of the true Hanbalis

01:08:35 --> 01:08:37

in this age. Make us all lovers of

01:08:37 --> 01:08:39

the Hadith and love of the true fatwa.

01:08:46 --> 01:08:50

Cambridge Muslim College, training the next generation of

01:08:50 --> 01:08:51

Muslim thinkers.

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