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The speakers discuss the importance of learning in religious sciences and the sharia framework for the use of laws. They emphasize the need for educational schools and a reading circle for overall success, and emphasize the importance of a Texian-centric approach to learning. The speakers end with a thank you and a recognition of the MSA.

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			So, How are you? Yes, please. Please introduce
		
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			yourself. Please introduce your your topic and why
		
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			you will speaking about it.
		
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			Also, while you're introducing yourself, maybe
		
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			say what you're currently yes. You should say
		
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			what you're currently doing, obviously.
		
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			And,
		
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			please just, like, highlight your MSA service,
		
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			briefly.
		
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			Okay. I see somebody commenting, so that must
		
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			mean that I'm live.
		
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			This is quite odd for me,
		
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			teaching or talking or whatever without actually
		
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			really engaging with people either
		
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			visually or verbally.
		
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			But we ask that Allah make it beneficial
		
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			and easy for me and
		
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			everybody else as well.
		
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			If you were in a little bit earlier,
		
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			you might have just overheard
		
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			rather Anwar,
		
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			giving me some instructions later to introduce myself.
		
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			My name is Zakaria Hanicker,
		
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			and
		
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			I think I can call myself an MSA,
		
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			now.
		
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			I've been there for for quite a long
		
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			portion of my own life, not that I've
		
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			been alive too long.
		
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			But for that. So,
		
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			introduction,
		
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			a normal guy, really. I went to school.
		
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			After that, I studied
		
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			a 2 year course at Tarun Nairim, then
		
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			I went to UCT. I did a BSc
		
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			mathematics
		
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			and, did major in Arabic as well.
		
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			Day after, I went to the Darul Al
		
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			Holm, Al Arabiya, Islamiyah, and Strand.
		
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			I complete the ALIM course there,
		
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			and I stayed on as a teacher at
		
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			the school,
		
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			I
		
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			also teach part time at the Mizan Institute,
		
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			and I'm currently
		
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			doing
		
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			a master's in Islamic studies. No. Master's in
		
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			Arabic,
		
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			actually, at UWC.
		
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			Having completed the honors in the same thing
		
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			last year.
		
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			None of that really matters.
		
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			If the knowledge that or if it hasn't
		
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			benefited me, you know, in my life and
		
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			in my being, and if other people are
		
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			not able to benefit from that, may Allah
		
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			make it worthwhile,
		
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			Yes. Not to forget,
		
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			most importantly, in relation to this series,
		
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			what I need to introduce about myself is
		
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			the fact that I was part of the
		
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			MSA, and I still consider myself part of
		
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			the MSA.
		
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			I was at university in when was it?
		
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			20
		
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			started at 2011. So I think from the
		
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			1st year,
		
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			I was a member and I became an
		
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			exec member of the MSA in that same
		
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			year.
		
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			At UCT,
		
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			the following year, I became the chairperson of
		
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			MSA UCT, and at the same time, the,
		
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			the chairperson of the MSA of the Cape
		
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			for a while. I I can't actually remember
		
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			how long it was in the. But I
		
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			think in some degree, I remained,
		
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			active with the MSA,
		
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			whether it be,
		
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			in the Western Cape well, mostly in the
		
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			Western Cape,
		
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			and then
		
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			also spreading to MSA schools, which was started
		
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			by,
		
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			a good friend and colleague of mine,
		
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			So yeah. And that brings us to now
		
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			your MSA alumni.
		
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			Into the topic.
		
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			The topic that,
		
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			I kind of chose and was brought thrust
		
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			upon me as well was
		
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			that of,
		
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			the or rather the topic title is the
		
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			introduction to the religious sciences
		
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			or the.
		
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			Now I must mention,
		
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			that
		
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			though happy to speak on this topic,
		
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			I myself have a critic of the title,
		
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			and that is what on earth are the
		
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			religious sciences on? What what is meant by
		
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			the religious sciences?
		
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			Are the sciences that are
		
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			religious and sciences that are non religious? What
		
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			on earth does it mean? So
		
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			what I understood from the title and what
		
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			I intend speaking about, Idi al Haydala, is
		
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			are those sciences
		
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			that would generally get studied by somebody who
		
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			will be considered in society as an Islamic
		
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			scholar,
		
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			like as a sheikh or Maulana or something
		
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			like that,
		
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			who who generally consider himself a student or
		
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			dean. So that's what I'll be speaking about
		
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			in a bit. Right?
		
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			The the main thrust of this talk is
		
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			for me to run through what gets studied
		
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			in those courses
		
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			by actually telling you the subjects
		
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			and a little bit about what those subjects
		
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			entail.
		
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			We'll get into that in due course. Getting
		
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			on with my critique of the title,
		
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			I
		
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			I actually you know, the critique was I
		
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			was that
		
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			what is religious
		
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			sciences?
		
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			As a Muslim,
		
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			from our perspective, it should be that all
		
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			sciences are religious.
		
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			All knowledge, in fact, is something that is
		
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			religious as long as it is something that
		
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			can take me closer to Allah.
		
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			As long as it's something via which I
		
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			can attain closeness to Allah and attain the
		
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			objective of my existence that being expressing my
		
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			nature of being a slave of Allah, Subhanahu
		
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			Wa Ta'ala.
		
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			Whether it be by
		
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			giving me more knowledge of him, Subhanahu Wa
		
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			Ta'ala, or giving me knowledge of things by
		
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			which I can benefit myself,
		
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			in relation to my spiritual actions, or whether
		
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			it be that I can benefit myself in
		
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			relation to actions
		
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			that can, enhance my dunya in such a
		
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			way that I can, you know, devote myself
		
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			more in a more focused manner to Allah
		
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			in a personal capacity as well as in
		
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			a a societal capacity and a, in a
		
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			communal sense, in that if I attain knowledge
		
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			that benefits my society,
		
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			and I benefit my society thereby,
		
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			with the with the intention of pleasing Allah
		
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			through that, then that knowledge essentially takes me
		
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			closer to Allah.
		
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			And,
		
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			with that understanding, that knowledge is not separate
		
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			from the religion of Islam.
		
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			This the idea of there being, you know,
		
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			like, religious sciences and, like, non religious sciences
		
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			or, like,
		
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			science
		
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			and natural science, physics, and all of that
		
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			stuff,
		
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			whatever it may be,
		
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			that that idea that there's a religious knowledge
		
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			and secular knowledge is something that's not native
		
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			to Islam. It's not something born from an
		
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			Islamic mindset.
		
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			That's never the way that Muslims conceded over
		
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			the world. That was actually thrust upon us,
		
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			and we somehow succumb to it,
		
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			and adopted that mindset.
		
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			But, that is it's it's more a a
		
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			product of,
		
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			you know,
		
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			secularization,
		
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			the enlightenment,
		
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			would go together and Colonialism,
		
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			which thrust that upon us. In Islam, we
		
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			never had contradictions between,
		
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			religion and science, religion and rationality. We never
		
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			had those
		
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			problems. Those were problems, you know, that were
		
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			precursors to the enlightenment, but it was about
		
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			the church. It was about Christianity and their,
		
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			their contradictions with science, etcetera. Those were not
		
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			our problems.
		
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			Throughout,
		
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			Islamic
		
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			history, there have been people interpreting the Islamic
		
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			sources,
		
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			that being the Quran and the Sunnah, in
		
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			light of the knowledge of the world that
		
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			they had available to them.
		
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			And, that's why we find oftentimes, you know,
		
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			when when science makes a discovery, we find
		
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			somebody coming out with a quote that says,
		
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			you know, so many 1000 of years ago
		
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			or sometimes 100 of years ago, you know,
		
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			a Muslim scholar said something even Khaldun said
		
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			something about, you know, something like evolution.
		
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			Just today, there were things going about. Even
		
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			Sina saying something about,
		
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			quarantining, etcetera.
		
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			Even Sina himself who was a to some
		
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			degree, would be considered the Islamic philosopher, Islamic
		
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			scholar.
		
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			So so we didn't have this this idea
		
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			of separation of of religious sciences and secular
		
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			sciences. It's knowledge
		
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			knowledge that can benefit you by taking you
		
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			closer to Allah whether
		
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			directly
		
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			or,
		
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			as an intermediary to that closeness to Allah
		
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			by you applying it and benefiting your society,
		
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			that was considered to be beneficial knowledge.
		
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			So, yes, I I was just touching on
		
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			the on the idea that,
		
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			it's a product of
		
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			of the enlightenment,
		
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			which was infused with secularism
		
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			that separated religion and state,
		
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			and then colonialism that imposed that on the
		
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			rest of the world,
		
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			that actually
		
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			led to us now as Muslims in our
		
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			time also buying into this division of knowledge.
		
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			You know,
		
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			this brings to mind the scholar of a
		
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			of a great, Ottoman Sheikh Islam, Jamustaf Asabry,
		
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			who lived
		
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			at the end of the, of the Ottoman
		
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			Empire, he said that, you know, what when
		
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			he was in Turkey, but when, you know,
		
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			things got a bit hectic with,
		
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			Ataturk, etcetera,
		
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			he moved to Egypt. And what he found
		
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			in Egypt is that many of the scholars
		
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			of the Azar at the time were influenced
		
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			by Western thought, and, they were, in a
		
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			sense, adopting
		
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			Western ways of thinking of the world,
		
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			that were not necessarily coherent with,
		
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			Islamic philosophy. And he he commented on this
		
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			saying that
		
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			that he found that the Egyptian society
		
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			or what was what is being done to
		
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			the Egyptian
		
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			what could only rather he said what what
		
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			could only be done to the Turkish society,
		
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			to Turkish people by force
		
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			in that, modernization was being forced on them,
		
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			was being done to the Egyptian populace by
		
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			will,
		
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			through them adopting
		
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			those, other philosophies and ways of, of thinking
		
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			as opposed to looking into Islamic thought to
		
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			actually, solve their problems.
		
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			To show the the this unification of of
		
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			knowledge that, that was always present in, Islamic
		
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			society, in Islamic history and tradition,
		
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			some quotes come to mind of, of al
		
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			Imam al Ghazali or some readings
		
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			that I have, head of Imam al Ghazali
		
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			is Ichiya al Muuddin as well as other
		
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			works, where he speaks about different types of
		
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			knowledge. He speaks about medicine. He speaks about
		
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			mathematics. He speaks about astronomy.
		
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			He speaks about,
		
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			you know,
		
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			physical sciences. He speaks about all of these
		
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			various things, obviously, in a more primitive sense
		
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			than what they exist
		
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			as today, but he speaks about them as
		
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			being potentially beneficial knowledge.
		
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			Even Sina categorized knowledge knowledge into that which
		
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			relates to, you know, the natural
		
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			order natural sciences. He spoke about mathematical knowledge
		
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			or rational sciences, and then there's sciences, that
		
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			are metaphysical or or theological.
		
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			And,
		
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			he categorized knowledge like this not to say
		
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			that some of them are bad and some
		
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			of them are good or some of them,
		
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			you know, should be left alone. No. In
		
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			fact, he excelled in,
		
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			in in medicine, you know, as is being
		
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			promoted
		
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			and identified by people in our time and
		
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			has been identified before. But at the same
		
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			time, he was the same person that felt
		
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			that the metaphysical knowledge, the theological knowledge is
		
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			of greatest virtue because it's most directly linked
		
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			to taking you to giving you a better
		
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			understanding of Allah and,
		
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			in taking you closer to him
		
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			In fact, that
		
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			metaphysical knowledge
		
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			is what separates people of,
		
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			you know, the Abrahamic faiths, people of religion
		
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			from people who have completely,
		
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			materialistic worldviews.
		
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			In that, we have a source of knowledge
		
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			that is, that's divine,
		
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			that is outside of us as human beings
		
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			and our minds and the physical world and,
		
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			you know, the mental realm,
		
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			and then our and then our rationality.
		
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			You know, both Muslims, non Muslims are all
		
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			endowed with. They can, you know, have intellectual
		
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			pursuits to the physical, into the material world,
		
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			as well as think of rational things just
		
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			as much as people of religion can. But
		
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			the added thing that we have to our
		
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			epistemology
		
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			is that we have the Quran and the
		
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			Sunnah, which are sources of divine knowledge.
		
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			In that,
		
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			obviously, the Quran is the word of Allah
		
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			and the sunnah of Rasool
		
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			Allah and his hadith and his statements,
		
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			they are also
		
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			a form of,
		
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			divine knowledge as Allah says in the Quran.
		
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			He does not speak of his own accord,
		
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			rather it is a revelation that has been
		
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			inspired,
		
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			to him, that he has been inspired with.
		
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			So,
		
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			yeah, there's no dichotomy. That's my critique of
		
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			the title before we get into it, Introduction
		
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			to the Religious Sciences.
		
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			And that is simply,
		
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			as Muslims, we buy into a unified idea
		
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			of knowledge, not the separation of, of religious
		
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			and secular. We don't have the dichotomy. There's
		
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			no, there's no
		
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			fight between
		
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			rationality and religion for us.
		
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			Many scholars have written on this. The the
		
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			the, you know, the Asherites in in Muslim
		
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			thought, they harmonize between
		
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			a religion or or, you know, beliefs and
		
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			rationality.
		
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			Ibn Taymiyyah
		
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			he,
		
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			you know, one of his major works was
		
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			on the,
		
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			you know, refuting
		
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			the incoherence or refuting the contradiction between,
		
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			the texts or, you know, the the religious
		
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			texts and rationality.
		
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			And so the idea that there was no
		
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			contradiction
		
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			between
		
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			what can be known rationally
		
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			and, what our religious texts tell us as
		
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			something that also permeated Muslim society from its
		
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			inception.
		
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			And that's just with the understanding
		
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			that,
		
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			you know, that's with the understanding
		
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			that
		
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			everything in existence comes from Allah essentially.
		
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			Allah
		
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			is the sole source of everything in existence.
		
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			You know, when we study nature, we study
		
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			in the creation of Allah. When we study,
		
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			we study belief that we reveal to us
		
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			by Allah. When we study mathematics, we're studying,
		
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			you know, laws by which Allah
		
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			everything. It's all from Allah. And so, that's
		
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			the reason we we don't make this decision.
		
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			Then moving on to why the topic.
		
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			I probably spent too much time on that
		
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			already. But, anyways, why the topic?
		
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			A number of thoughts, you know, come to
		
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			my mind as a as somebody that was
		
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			at university, very much part of university culture,
		
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			etcetera,
		
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			but at the same time,
		
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			very much bought into Islamic worldview,
		
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			Islamic learning, etcetera, is that oftentimes Muslims
		
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			are disconnected
		
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			from their own tradition of knowledge.
		
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			And
		
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			the you know, one of the reasons for
		
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			that may be that we've never actually been
		
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			brought up in a society where all of
		
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			our learning was infused with Islamic thought,
		
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			from the time I don't know about other
		
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			societies, but here in the Western Cape, I
		
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			went to primary school. It wasn't Muslim primary
		
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			school.
		
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			There were Muslim teachers. I don't even know.
		
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			I think there were probably only Muslims at
		
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			the primary school, but, essentially, this primary school
		
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			was no different,
		
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			in terms of the syllabus
		
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			apart from having maybe Islamic studies from,
		
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			any other school. You know, we studied math
		
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			in the same way. We studied, national sciences
		
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			in the same way. Yes. There was a
		
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			great benefit to the fact that we had
		
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			teachers that were conscious of our loads of
		
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			hunger. Definitely, there's benefit in that. But,
		
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			essentially, in the syllabus and the underlying philosophies
		
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			of what we're taught is no different way,
		
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			from any other school.
		
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			Then I went to a, you know, normal
		
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			public high school.
		
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			Wasn't a Muslim high school,
		
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			but still one that I appreciate very much,
		
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			the life, etcetera,
		
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			and the values
		
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			that were installed, which were very much come
		
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			came from a religious people and so were
		
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			good,
		
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			because it essentially stemmed from the from the
		
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			religious thought and teaching.
		
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			And then I went to, you know okay.
		
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			That's when,
		
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			you know, a stark change happened. Change happened
		
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			rather
		
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			In terms of formal learning,
		
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			why I make that distinction is because, you
		
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			know, throughout this entire period, I was learning
		
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			from my parents as well. I was learning
		
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			from my family, from my society, and they
		
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			were very much people that didn't separate between,
		
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			Islam and
		
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			secular or anything like that. They were very
		
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			much
		
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			both my mother and my father were people
		
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			that, you know, constantly,
		
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			drove
		
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			this unified idea of the world,
		
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			to myself and and my family as a
		
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			whole.
		
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			Then I went to Darunayim,
		
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			studied a bit over there. Islamic studies was
		
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			very beneficial, and that's where,
		
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			there was a stark
		
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			focus
		
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			on,
		
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			the Quran,
		
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			this divine knowledge. Before that, yes, that was
		
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			the I went to Madrasa,
		
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			etcetera. But,
		
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			that's where the sole focus of my day
		
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			was centered around that type of knowledge. Went
		
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			to university,
		
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			again,
		
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			probably because of, you know, my father's and
		
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			mother's background in in MS activity, etcetera, and,
		
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			you know, whatever they instilled in us of
		
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			of,
		
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			values
		
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			led to partaking in the MSA. So university
		
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			wasn't a solely secular,
		
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			pursuit despite it being, despite me studying mathematics.
		
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			But, essentially,
		
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			I was going to Western University.
		
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			The syllabus in high school was a was
		
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			a secular syllabus. The syllabus in primary school
		
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			was secular syllabus.
		
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			And so
		
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			we don't actually have
		
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			pedagogies
		
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			that are underpinned by Islamic thought.
		
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			We don't actually learn about
		
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			physics
		
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			as
		
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			learning about the creation or the laws of
		
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			Allah's creation. We don't
		
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			try to see Allah through them.
		
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			People have individual pursuits in doing that, but
		
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			it's, it's generally that individual pursuits are not
		
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			built into the syllabus. It's not the philosophy
		
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			of how we learn everything. And so
		
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			for that reason, we feel disconnected from it.
		
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			And only really if you go to, like,
		
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			a Darul al Anwar or something, then you
		
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			get exposed to the depth of the Islamic
		
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			tradition.
		
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			And even then, at times, it's it's not
		
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			a full picture
		
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			depending on on on where you study.
		
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			And one actually has to
		
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			seek out the tips of that to appreciate
		
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			it. And,
		
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			as I mentioned, some of the subjects are
		
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			perhaps I'll show you a book at my
		
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			library. It's very ugly. That's why I have
		
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			a nice book behind me. Not it's not
		
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			ugly. It's just not organized.
		
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			In fact, it's really beautiful.
		
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			Maybe I'll show you one book that, later
		
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			that that may inspire you in some way.
		
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			But,
		
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			yeah, so that is the first point to
		
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			add as to why I chose the topic.
		
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			Because oftentimes, as, you know, normal Muslims that
		
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			don't necessarily,
		
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			you know, fling themselves into the Darulun, etcetera,
		
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			and and it's not possible for everybody, We
		
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			don't we feel disconnected from the the the
		
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			tradition oftentimes because we actually know it.
		
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			We just know what gets exposed to us,
		
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			maybe on YouTube, some lecture that we heard
		
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			or what the imam says on a Friday.
		
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			And oftentimes, he doesn't really,
		
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			you know, even touch the surface of the
		
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			depth of that tradition of Islamic knowledge.
		
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			As a as a result of that
		
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			as a result of that that lack of
		
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			connectedness and knowledge of the depth of that
		
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			Islamic tradition, we oftentimes have a lack of
		
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			appreciation for Islamic scholarship and Islamic scholars.
		
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			What that, you know, that obviously has lots
		
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			of negative implications on the way we think
		
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			about the world.
		
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			Because
		
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			if we don't appreciate them and appreciate the
		
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			level of scholarship and the depth of the
		
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			tradition from which they're coming, then they would
		
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			not be our natural resort when looking for
		
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			solutions
		
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			for the world around
		
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			us. And, I'm not saying that
		
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			Islamic scholarship in our time has no blame
		
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			in this regard.
		
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			Oftentimes, we have become stagnant.
		
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			Oftentimes, Islamic institutions have become stagnant in some
		
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			regard with a,
		
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			you know, apprehension to change syllabi and update
		
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			syllabi and
		
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			adapt to subjects that are more important for
		
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			our time than what they may have been
		
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			in,
		
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			century
		
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			or centuries old syllabus. So I'm not saying
		
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			that Islamic scholarship or Islamic institutes have no,
		
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			blame in this regard, but the reality is
		
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			there are still scholars in this world,
		
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			you know,
		
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			easy to to access for that matter. Scholars
		
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			that are well read, well grounded in the
		
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			tradition in its entirety
		
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			that should be able to guide our thought.
		
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			Guide our thought not in relation to some
		
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			centuries old stuff, but guide our thought based
		
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			on those sources in relation to the problems
		
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			that we have today,
		
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			the social problems that we have today,
		
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			the philosophical problems that we have today.
		
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			And it's important for us to actually appreciate
		
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			that scholarship so that we can seek out
		
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			solutions from that tradition that those scholars represent.
		
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			So,
		
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			yeah, there's also another
		
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			misconception
		
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			or,
		
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			you know, wrong thought
		
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			that I think is prevalent in society for
		
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			which I also chose this topic is that
		
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			oftentimes we think that Islam is disconnected from
		
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			our modern or postmodern world that we live
		
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			in.
		
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			But
		
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			the reality is actually when we when we,
		
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			you know, dive into the depths of our
		
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			tradition, oftentimes we find many discourses that Western
		
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			society is only engaging in now
		
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			with things that,
		
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			you know, scholars
		
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			long ago in the Muslim world have been
		
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			thinking about.
		
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			And I mentioned some thoughts
		
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			of and even a bit earlier.
		
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			But you'll find that there's a pleasure trove
		
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			of thoughts that Muslim
		
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			thinkers had that we can develop,
		
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			or that will at least remove some of
		
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			our apprehensions
		
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			to engage,
		
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			in scientific problems with the fear that, you
		
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			know, this may contradict,
		
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			this may contradict,
		
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			my religion or something like that. No. All
		
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			knowledge comes from a unified source
		
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			comes from a unified source, and so we
		
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			should never really run into any problem as
		
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			long as we are thinking about things correctly.
		
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			And this was the the mantra or the
		
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			motto of,
		
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			many Islamic schools of thinking that really incorporated,
		
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			rationality
		
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			that there is no possibility
		
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			for
		
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			there is no possibility for
		
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			a contradiction
		
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			between
		
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			rationality
		
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			and revelation
		
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			because of the unity of the source on
		
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			which it comes.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			In addition to that,
		
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			I just think it's important for us to
		
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			reconnect with our own tradition as opposed to,
		
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			being,
		
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			you know, subject to the inferiority
		
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			complex imposed upon the whole world really through
		
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			colonization
		
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			in that, you know, through colonization,
		
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			they colonized us intellectually as well, you know,
		
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			made us buy into the types of schools,
		
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			and and that's prevalent throughout Europe. The Muslim
		
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			world India started having with colonization, India started
		
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			having different types of schools separate from the
		
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			religious schools with the dosing of army that
		
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			used to be the the seat of all
		
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			types of knowledge.
		
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			People would go, they learn astronomy, mathematics, all
		
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			of those things would be studied in that
		
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			type of school. But now they got shifted
		
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			to other schools on account of colonialism.
		
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			Universities started forming that had that had bought
		
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			into western thought world technologically.
		
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			So
		
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			I think we need to free ourselves of
		
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			the shackles
		
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			of that inferiority complex that we have towards
		
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			western knowledge because it's what we've grown up
		
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			in and all that we've known.
		
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			In fact, much of our thought throughout our
		
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			life gets shaped by those, philosophies. We
		
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			we may be insulated from it somewhat on
		
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			account of the fact that we still have
		
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			some connection to the Quran, etcetera, But oftentimes,
		
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			that's still relegated to certain spaces in our
		
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			lives.
		
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			And so to read ourselves with that, I
		
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			think just knowing a little bit about the
		
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			fact or just knowing that there is a
		
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			vast tradition of Islamic knowledge
		
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			should perhaps peak our interest in looking
		
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			into what that has to offer for us.
		
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			So just before I get into actually mentioning
		
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			the subjects,
		
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			I see that there's a question that we
		
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			have here,
		
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			and, I think I'll take that question.
		
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			Question
		
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			is.
		
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			Yeah. Sounds odd saying that myself.
		
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			Just a second here.
		
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			Can you perhaps share
		
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			of those colors we could turn to?
		
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			So
		
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			I think oftentimes,
		
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			we may or many of us may have
		
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			accessed some of them via the Internet, etcetera,
		
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			like Sheikh
		
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			Ablakim Murad, brilliant mind. Sheikh, Omar Farooq Abdullah,
		
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			Sheikh Amin Gulwadia in in in the states,
		
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			Sheikh Hamza Yusuf, doctor Yasser Sheikh Yasser Kaldi.
		
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			You know, just just to name a few
		
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			of the international scholars. But oftentimes, we don't
		
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			necessarily have access to them,
		
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			in Elmwood.
		
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			So in terms of
		
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			so, you know, speaking to South African student
		
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			base, what are some of the people here
		
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			that we can,
		
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			that we can access? I don't know all
		
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			of the scholars up currently in Johor, in
		
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			all of those places, so forgive me for
		
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			if there's a lack of representation.
		
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			But
		
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			in in in in the Western Cape, I
		
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			can tell you honestly, I've been to university.
		
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			I studied mathematics. This is not just because
		
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			he's one of my teachers, but Mullana Taha
		
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			Karan is a man of
		
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			immense knowledge.
		
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			I've sat in conversations that he had with
		
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			Sheikh Abdul Hakim Murad, with Sheikh Yasir Qaldi,
		
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			with, you know, some of the the biggest
		
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			thinkers in in the Muslim world, and,
		
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			I can tell you that
		
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			we
		
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			we don't need to feel that we we
		
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			lack those scholars.
		
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			Is somebody that we can turn to. Many
		
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			of the students of
		
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			Now I'm just a weak student, but there's
		
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			others that are that are, you know, much
		
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			more learned.
		
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			Mohammad
		
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			doctor Yousuf Patel,
		
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			a number of others. And some of them
		
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			that even come through the the MSR.
		
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			Even
		
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			even our our our brother, Anwar,
		
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			continuing studies as well. He he was a
		
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			for a period student at the school of.
		
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			And then these other, you know, bigger, more
		
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			serious scholars that, like,
		
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			like.
		
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			Like,
		
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			I know I just pointed that out to
		
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			me. Sheikh Al Khardawi, Sheikh,
		
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			amongst other scholars. There's a right teams of
		
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			of previous scholars that we can access, like
		
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			Mohammad Saeed,
		
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			and, Sheikh Taha Abdul Rahman. But, you know,
		
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			those are in Arabic for the most part,
		
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			and so they're not accessible,
		
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			too much of our viewership. But, you know,
		
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			even so, they really their writings can be
		
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			accessed through other scholars,
		
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			and through other students of Dina. As a
		
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			student of Dina, I would be more than
		
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			willing to avail myself, especially to university students
		
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			that want to,
		
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			you know,
		
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			just know a little bit more about the
		
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			Islamic tradition. I'm sure Radha Anwar would as
		
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			well, and and I'm sure I can get
		
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			a number of others more learning than me
		
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			as well,
		
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			with me.
		
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			Upcountry,
		
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			like I said, I don't know too many
		
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			of the scholars, but I do know some
		
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			guys,
		
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			like a very open minded and, and and
		
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			and well versed scholar,
		
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			Molena
		
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			Abu Ureyra,
		
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			Bobat.
		
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			Probably
		
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			I don't know if most of the people
		
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			know him, but those are some of them
		
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			that I've encountered that that seem to be
		
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			very,
		
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			open minded and and well versed with the
		
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			tradition.
		
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			So so, yeah, those are just some of
		
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			the scholars. Although, Alan, we need to engage
		
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			with him more.
		
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			If anybody has any questions, whatever, you can
		
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			post them, and then I'll try and and
		
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			answer.
		
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			Okay. So now getting into the actual sciences,
		
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			I'm flies. I don't know if I'm just
		
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			waffling.
		
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			Anyways,
		
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			getting into the sciences. So now you hear
		
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			what I'm talking about there in terms of
		
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			the religious sciences? I'm talking about
		
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			when you go into a
		
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			when we speak about the Islamic tradition of
		
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			scholarship,
		
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			specifically pertaining to those matters,
		
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			they,
		
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			directly linked to
		
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			Islamic
		
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			thought,
		
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			Islamic
		
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			action,
		
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			whether that be spiritual action or
		
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			physical action,
		
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			these are the subjects that that generally get
		
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			studied.
		
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			The first would be
		
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			luwah or language.
		
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			Now you may think that's absurd.
		
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			Why don't you mention the Quran first?
		
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			Quran is obviously the
		
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			the the, you know, the most important thing
		
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			that gets studied.
		
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			However, the Quran is an Arabic book.
		
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			Allah
		
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			mentions that in the Quran,
		
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			that that it is an Arabic Quran. And
		
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			so
		
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			what gets studied
		
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			foremost or firstly in these institutes is language.
		
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			Now
		
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			language has a number of,
		
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			of subjects that actually allow one to understand
		
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			the Arabic language, understand how it works, understand
		
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			the intricacies of that language.
		
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			Most important to them,
		
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			are 4,
		
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			that would be
		
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			vocabulary,
		
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			like
		
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			the the meanings of words.
		
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			The second would be,
		
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			this
		
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			Arabic grammar.
		
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			Thirdly would be almusarf or almuntasrif,
		
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			morphology,
		
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			and fourthly would be bilagha
		
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			or literik. So just to give a beef
		
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			brief introduction as as opposed to just mentioning
		
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			the names,
		
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			it's actually just understanding what words mean,
		
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			because
		
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			it's a it's an extremely important thing.
		
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			If the Quran is an Arabic book,
		
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			we actually have to look at what are
		
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			acceptable meanings for words in the Arabic language
		
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			to know what are valid ways to interpret
		
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			the Quran, how to how we can actually
		
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			understand the Quran, what Allah is saying to
		
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			us as a, you know, non native Arabic
		
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			speaking people.
		
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			We wouldn't have a natural
		
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			understanding from our society of what Arabic words
		
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			mean. And even people that grow up in
		
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			in
		
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			Arabic societies won't necessarily
		
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			understand
		
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			the use of Arabic that apply to the
		
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			prophetic period.
		
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			So even they will have to study,
		
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			the
		
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			the or
		
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			the the meanings
		
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			or, you know,
		
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			potential array of meanings that a single Arabic
		
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			word can have in classical Arabic.
		
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			Is the sub the science of grammar
		
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			that that deals really with how words interact
		
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			with each other, how Arabic words interact with
		
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			each other and convey meaning in that way.
		
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			So to form coherent meanings from from sentences,
		
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			if you want.
		
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			Then the science of Sarf
		
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			Arabic is a very structured language.
		
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			So the science of Sarf deals with how
		
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			word forms change and how those changes in
		
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			the form of a word,
		
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			affect the meaning of a word. In fact,
		
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			this is one of the, the subjects that
		
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			actually make
		
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			Arabic easy to learn, in my opinion.
		
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			And that's like for example, if you learn
		
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			a certain template of a word like a
		
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			template fa'ilun
		
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			which is the form of an active particle
		
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			you can take any set of Arabic letters
		
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			and put it on there and you'll know
		
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			that it will be the active particle of
		
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			the word or of the image that's attached
		
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			to that set of letters. For example, nasora
		
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			means to help. If I put it in
		
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			the form, fa'alun
		
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			nasirun, then it means a helper.
		
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			Fa'atihon,
		
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			fa'atiha means to open. So fa'atiha means an
		
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			opener or fatah can also mean to conquer.
		
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			Fatihomile,
		
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			conqueror,
		
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			the active particles. So those forms of structures
		
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			of words you learn in the science of
		
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			surf, and that actually helps one to understand
		
00:38:06 --> 00:38:09
			when when one is hearing, reading, listening to,
		
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			or speaking Arabic. And,
		
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			and, yeah, it actually facilitates great understanding of
		
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			it. Then,
		
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			teaches us how figures of speech, etcetera, are
		
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			used in Arabic language because not everything in
		
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			language is literal.
		
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			In fact, it's part of the beauty of
		
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			the Quran that allows
		
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			many of these,
		
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			aspects of rhetoric to beautify speech, and we
		
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			recognize that from things like,
		
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			I mean, English language has the same,
		
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			not necessarily the same aspects of Malaga, but,
		
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			it also has its salivary dialect. So that's
		
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			what this learned. And that's just a precursor
		
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			to getting into study of the other Islamic
		
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			sciences and
		
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			and Islamic sources.
		
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			It's rather a key to that because those
		
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			sources are primarily in in Arabic.
		
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			However, in addition to that, in terms of,
		
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			language, there's a number of other sciences. There's,
		
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			literature, adab, there's insha, there's istirqaka. Our word
		
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			meanings are derived.
		
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			There's arud and qawafi, things that pertain to
		
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			poetry and poetic meters, etcetera. There's Arabic poet
		
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			classic Arabic poetry because that's, you know, Arabic
		
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			the the meanings of Arabic words, if you
		
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			want to justify
		
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			that a meaning of a word is valid
		
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			for an Arabic word, you don't actually quote
		
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			the dictionary.
		
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			That's what I arrange the meanings of the
		
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			words. You actually quote a verse of poetry
		
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			or aya of Quran to show that the
		
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			word,
		
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			has a specific connotation or meaning. And when
		
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			you're using that to interpret the Quran,
		
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			for for example, I have verse a in
		
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			the Quran. I want to know what a
		
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			specific word means in this verse.
		
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			I'll either have to show a meaning that's
		
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			established elsewhere in the Quran through other ayah,
		
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			or I will take
		
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			a piece of Arabic poetry that shows me
		
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			that that meaning for that word is potential
		
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			one.
		
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			So Arabic poetry is an important subject as
		
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			well.
		
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			You know, this critique of literature, this, you
		
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			know, Arabic
		
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			writings, all all of those get put,
		
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			but the primary ones are the first four
		
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			that I mentioned.
		
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			Thereafter, as I mentioned,
		
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			Luwai language, Arabic language specifically, is just a
		
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			key to getting into the Quran.
		
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			So from there, we move to,
		
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			sciences
		
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			directly related to the Quran. And, actually, the
		
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			Quran is a source of all Islamic knowledge
		
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			to a large degree.
		
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			So
		
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			the sciences related to the Quran directly would
		
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			be, firstly,
		
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			That would be,
		
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			the interpretations or valid interpretations
		
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			of the Quran
		
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			and
		
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			the sciences related to that,
		
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			the sources or the principles related to understanding
		
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			the Quran. So, for example, in, Usulut Tassir,
		
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			you'll learn certain
		
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			you learn
		
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			principles as to how to be consistent in
		
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			interpreting the Quran. For example, just to give
		
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			one,
		
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			a principle would be,
		
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			One principle would be that
		
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			we give consideration to the generality
		
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			of the wordings as opposed to the specificity
		
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			of the context of revelation.
		
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			So, for example,
		
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			an ayah comes in the Quranic context and
		
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			even in terms of its reason for revelation,
		
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			it comes in relation to a specific incident.
		
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			And there's times in the Quran where Allah
		
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			uses words that show that the verse is
		
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			specific to that incident. And sometimes, though it
		
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			comes in context of that incident, Allah uses
		
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			general words. So how do we understand that?
		
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			From Usul Qasir, we would study how to
		
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			understand that. And so as the principle that
		
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			I mentioned,
		
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			says, we'll look at the generality of the
		
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			wording that Allah used to be. We understand
		
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			that Allah doesn't, and even this is part
		
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			of the Surah to see that Allah doesn't
		
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			word anything in in a specific way without
		
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			ease. When Allah wants things to be specific,
		
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			he words it specifically. When Allah wants things
		
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			to be, general, he was it generally, or
		
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			there's something that indicates to us from the
		
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			Quran and from the that
		
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			it must be understood,
		
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			specific in a specific way,
		
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			and other
		
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			principles in tafsir.
		
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			Then there's the study of tafsir itself and
		
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			if you mean I'd honestly, I don't wanna
		
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			show you what my library is right now.
		
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			But,
		
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			they are
		
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			copious
		
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			amounts of interpretations of the Quran.
		
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			One that I that I read quite often
		
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			now, is the the tafsir of.
		
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			That's 1 tafsir. The tafsir is 30 volumes.
		
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			There's other tafsir of similar size. You know,
		
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			there's
		
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			tafsir mobile that they use, but often 10
		
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			volumes. There's, tafsir of Razi that's like, oh,
		
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			I don't know, 2 volumes.
		
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			You know, just the other night, I was
		
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			preparing for a for a Quran clause,
		
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			And I went to Razi, and I thought
		
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			to myself, and I actually just read the
		
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			whole night.
		
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			But the scope is the amount of. Like,
		
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			you know,
		
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			I would love to be able to show
		
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			you
		
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			how much the is written on interpretation of
		
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			the pronounce that you can actually gain that
		
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			appreciation,
		
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			but, you know, I'm not able to do
		
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			that. However, I can tell you there are
		
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			lots of works written on both classical mufasin
		
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			and from contemporary
		
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			mufasin.
		
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			And,
		
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			basically, it's what people
		
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			it's
		
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			people
		
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			understanding the Quran,
		
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			writing down the lessons that they derive from
		
00:43:45 --> 00:43:46
			the Quran
		
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			based on
		
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			principles that give them consistency
		
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			in the understanding of the Quran in light
		
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			of the Arabic language and in light of
		
00:43:53 --> 00:43:55
			other principles. So there's a variety of categories
		
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			of tafsir, of explanations of the Quran. Sometimes
		
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			they focus on linguistic aspects or linguistic beauty
		
00:44:00 --> 00:44:01
			of the Quran.
		
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			The
		
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			the. Sometimes they focus on,
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:07
			perhaps laws that can be derived from the
		
00:44:07 --> 00:44:10
			Quran. Sometimes they focus on maybe
		
00:44:10 --> 00:44:12
			ethical matters that can be derived from the
		
00:44:12 --> 00:44:14
			Quran. Sometimes they focus on all of them.
		
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			Sometimes they focus on, you know, verses that
		
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			pertain to material aspects of the world and
		
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			and what we can derive from them. Sometimes
		
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			they they, they look at matters pertaining to
		
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			belief. Sometimes they look at matters,
		
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			pertaining to history.
		
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			There's even different genres of of ways that
		
00:44:30 --> 00:44:31
			Mufasilin
		
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			make tafsir. Sometimes they
		
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			interpret the Quran in light of of what
		
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			prior scholars have said. Sometimes they interpret the
		
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			Quran in light of other sciences like language
		
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			and rhetoric, etcetera,
		
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			Though that's always a consideration,
		
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			sometimes they,
		
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			interpret interpret the Quran
		
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			via illusions. So maybe not necessarily the direct
		
00:44:53 --> 00:44:56
			meanings of a verse, but rather lessons that
		
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			can be derived from verse.
		
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			So, you know, those are some of the
		
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			different subcategories of tafsir that exist. In this
		
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			the subject of Quran.
		
00:45:07 --> 00:45:09
			Quran, as opposed to dealing with the meanings
		
00:45:09 --> 00:45:11
			of verses, like, the actual interpretations of the
		
00:45:11 --> 00:45:13
			verses of Quran, this deals with
		
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			this deals with sciences related to the Quran.
		
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			So what does what does what makes something
		
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			Quran?
		
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			How do we know when something's possible in
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:23
			the Quran? How does,
		
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			chapters of the Quran ordered? How are the
		
00:45:25 --> 00:45:26
			chapters of the Quran,
		
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			you know, how are verses in a chapter
		
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			ordered? The history of the of revelation,
		
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			the history of the compilation of the Quran,
		
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			the history of, the preservation of the Quran,
		
00:45:38 --> 00:45:40
			matters pertaining to the different modes of recitation
		
00:45:40 --> 00:45:43
			of the Quran. Also perhaps at times some
		
00:45:43 --> 00:45:44
			aspects of,
		
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			of rules pertaining to interpretation.
		
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			How do we incorporate incorporate the context of
		
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			a revelation of a verse into our understanding
		
00:45:52 --> 00:45:53
			of that first?
		
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			How do we deal with translations of the
		
00:45:56 --> 00:45:56
			Quran?
		
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			Are translations of the Quran considered the Quran
		
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			as well? So those are some of the
		
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			questions that get answered in its object called
		
00:46:02 --> 00:46:03
			the Ulmul Quran.
		
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			And, obviously,
		
00:46:07 --> 00:46:09
			then all of the other sciences are in
		
00:46:09 --> 00:46:09
			fact a
		
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			an explanation of the Quran.
		
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			And I'll I'll clarify what I mean by
		
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			that in a moment. Then there's also sciences
		
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			pertaining to the preservation of the Quran. This
		
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			would be the or the science of Tajweed.
		
00:46:24 --> 00:46:27
			How do I properly articulate the Quran?
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:31
			That's the science of Tajweed. It's a science
		
00:46:31 --> 00:46:32
			on its own.
		
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			Then there's the science of, the different modes
		
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			of recitation,
		
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			the different ways that words can be pronounced,
		
00:46:37 --> 00:46:40
			verses can be pronounced. Obviously, then with the
		
00:46:40 --> 00:46:41
			study of
		
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			how those different modes of recitation
		
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			arrived at us. It's a very critical study
		
00:46:45 --> 00:46:47
			of that. And it is the science of,
		
00:46:48 --> 00:46:48
			orthography
		
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			or ways in which the Quran can be
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:52
			readily written,
		
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			and
		
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			what is correct in that regard. So those
		
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			are some sciences related to the Quran. So
		
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			I first spoke about language, and I spoke
		
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			about those that are directly related to the,
		
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			Quran.
		
00:47:05 --> 00:47:06
			Oh, where am I gonna go to for
		
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			you?
		
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			After that,
		
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			we have sciences related to Hadith,
		
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			Hadith being prophetic narrations.
		
00:47:17 --> 00:47:18
			Anything that
		
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			that reaches us of these statements, actions,
		
00:47:24 --> 00:47:25
			tested approvals,
		
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			physical
		
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			or characteristic descriptions of Rasool
		
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			Allahu.
		
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			And at times, the science also includes, you
		
00:47:34 --> 00:47:37
			know, had specifically Hadith, but at times, the
		
00:47:37 --> 00:47:39
			books of Hadith also include things that that
		
00:47:39 --> 00:47:43
			pertained or statements, actions, etcetera, of the companions
		
00:47:43 --> 00:47:45
			of Rasulullah and the generation
		
00:47:46 --> 00:47:47
			that followed them, the Tabi'in.
		
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			So what do we study
		
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			in the science of hadith?
		
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			Because, you know,
		
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			this is a science that has come under,
		
00:47:58 --> 00:48:00
			you know, a lot of scrutiny in our
		
00:48:00 --> 00:48:01
			time specific,
		
00:48:02 --> 00:48:02
			but
		
00:48:02 --> 00:48:03
			it is essentially
		
00:48:04 --> 00:48:07
			the second most important source of Islamic knowledge,
		
00:48:08 --> 00:48:11
			after the Quran, in fact, giving its authority
		
00:48:11 --> 00:48:12
			by the Quran itself.
		
00:48:15 --> 00:48:16
			That's al Hadith. So so what are the
		
00:48:16 --> 00:48:18
			sciences pertaining to hadith? I'm first gonna get
		
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			to the the technical aspects of it, and
		
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			then we'll look at the actual content of
		
00:48:22 --> 00:48:24
			hadith. So what we do is we study
		
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			mustallahooldhadith.
		
00:48:27 --> 00:48:28
			Mustallahooldhadith
		
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			is a subject that pertains to the technical
		
00:48:31 --> 00:48:32
			terms used in the science of hadith. It
		
00:48:32 --> 00:48:34
			may sound like a simple thing, but there's
		
00:48:34 --> 00:48:36
			actually lots of technical terms. Hadith are categorized
		
00:48:36 --> 00:48:39
			in lots of different ways according to, you
		
00:48:39 --> 00:48:41
			know, the chain of narration,
		
00:48:41 --> 00:48:42
			according to authenticity,
		
00:48:43 --> 00:48:45
			according to the number of people that transmitted
		
00:48:45 --> 00:48:46
			that narration.
		
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			For you know,
		
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			maybe I think I need to introduce the
		
00:48:50 --> 00:48:52
			idea that a hadith,
		
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			though it may be a statement or a
		
00:48:54 --> 00:48:56
			action of Rasool and that's reported to us,
		
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			it's always accompanied by a chain of narration.
		
00:48:59 --> 00:49:01
			So when I have a piece of information,
		
00:49:03 --> 00:49:04
			for example, Rasulullah
		
00:49:05 --> 00:49:06
			said,
		
00:49:06 --> 00:49:07
			x.
		
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			I don't accept it just like that.
		
00:49:13 --> 00:49:13
			I
		
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			will say, oh,
		
00:49:15 --> 00:49:18
			how what makes that a valid hadith is
		
00:49:18 --> 00:49:19
			that I can say, Umar
		
00:49:20 --> 00:49:21
			said that Rasulullah
		
00:49:22 --> 00:49:23
			said this,
		
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			but it doesn't just stop there. The chain
		
00:49:25 --> 00:49:28
			continues. So somebody narrated it from Omar Radiallahu,
		
00:49:28 --> 00:49:31
			who narrated it who in turn
		
00:49:31 --> 00:49:33
			narrated it to someone else, who in turn
		
00:49:33 --> 00:49:34
			narrated it to someone else, who in turn
		
00:49:34 --> 00:49:35
			narrated it to someone else.
		
00:49:36 --> 00:49:38
			So in the books of hadith, we'll have
		
00:49:38 --> 00:49:40
			a chain a complete chain of narration of
		
00:49:40 --> 00:49:43
			that hadith from Rasool Allah alaihi wa sallam
		
00:49:43 --> 00:49:46
			till the author of that compilation of hadith.
		
00:49:46 --> 00:49:48
			And then we'll have chains of narration from
		
00:49:48 --> 00:49:50
			the compilation of that hadith book until
		
00:49:51 --> 00:49:52
			us. So for example,
		
00:49:53 --> 00:49:56
			in this book here, I have
		
00:49:57 --> 00:49:59
			this is just just a book that I
		
00:49:59 --> 00:50:00
			one of these books, but
		
00:50:01 --> 00:50:02
			here's an example of a,
		
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			a chain of narration that I have. So
		
00:50:05 --> 00:50:08
			I can say, for example, I narrate from
		
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			I, Zakariya Anika,
		
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			narrate from my teacher, Mulla Taha Karan, who
		
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			said that,
		
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			Sayyid Al Imam Abu Hasan ibn al Hayy
		
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			al Hasan I nedawi, said from his teacher,
		
00:50:25 --> 00:50:27
			Hayd al Hassan who said
		
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			who said that his teacher said, his teacher
		
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			being,
		
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			said Nadir Hussain,
		
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			who narrates from his teacher Shah Muhammad Ishaq.
		
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			And then a alternate narration for the same
		
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			book would be and I also narrate from,
		
00:50:43 --> 00:50:44
			Sheikh Nasir Ahmed
		
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			Albulland Shahri,
		
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			who narrates from Sheikh Islam,
		
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			Hassan Ahmed,
		
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			Al Madani, who narrates from the Arabic is
		
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			very ugly. But,
		
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			who narrates from this teacher essentially,
		
00:51:00 --> 00:51:02
			I can I can when I narrate to
		
00:51:02 --> 00:51:03
			you a hadith, I can give you a
		
00:51:03 --> 00:51:05
			chain of narration from myself
		
00:51:05 --> 00:51:06
			till the compilation
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:09
			wherein that hadith is found? We, in turn,
		
00:51:09 --> 00:51:11
			will have a chain of narration, which, in
		
00:51:11 --> 00:51:13
			turn, will have a a chain of narration
		
00:51:13 --> 00:51:14
			for that narration
		
00:51:14 --> 00:51:16
			from the the compiler of that book and
		
00:51:16 --> 00:51:17
			Torah.
		
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			So that's very important to know to understand
		
00:51:20 --> 00:51:21
			sciences that relate to Hamid.
		
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			So we have
		
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			and, yeah. So I must mention also that
		
00:51:26 --> 00:51:28
			Muslims have are very critical.
		
00:51:29 --> 00:51:31
			Traditional Islamic scholarship is very critical
		
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			in we are very critical in the science
		
00:51:34 --> 00:51:36
			of hadith because there's a great impetus
		
00:51:37 --> 00:51:39
			to only accept those things that can correctly
		
00:51:39 --> 00:51:41
			be attributed to our Surah lessons. In fact,
		
00:51:41 --> 00:51:43
			we have probably the most,
		
00:51:44 --> 00:51:44
			detailed
		
00:51:45 --> 00:51:47
			science of authenticating
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:49
			reports from a person,
		
00:51:50 --> 00:51:50
			that being Rasoolullah
		
00:51:52 --> 00:51:55
			There's no historical method that's more critical than
		
00:51:55 --> 00:51:58
			our method of, Hadith criticism. So we have
		
00:51:58 --> 00:52:00
			the science that just deals with the terms,
		
00:52:01 --> 00:52:03
			that pertain to the science of Hadith.
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:06
			So for every type of Hadith is a
		
00:52:06 --> 00:52:09
			name. Either Hadith is, it's a canonical relation
		
00:52:09 --> 00:52:12
			narration. If it's narrated by, like,
		
00:52:12 --> 00:52:14
			more than 10 people, for example, in every
		
00:52:14 --> 00:52:16
			single rung of its chain of narration,
		
00:52:17 --> 00:52:19
			or chain or hadith is,
		
00:52:20 --> 00:52:22
			or or harib if it's only narrated
		
00:52:23 --> 00:52:24
			if at any point in the chain of
		
00:52:24 --> 00:52:26
			narration, there's only one person,
		
00:52:26 --> 00:52:28
			that narrates it, for example.
		
00:52:29 --> 00:52:30
			Then we have,
		
00:52:32 --> 00:52:34
			following on from that, we have studies of
		
00:52:34 --> 00:52:34
			the,
		
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			the science of.
		
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			Is when I take one of those chains
		
00:52:41 --> 00:52:43
			of narration and I subject them to scrutiny.
		
00:52:43 --> 00:52:45
			I check, did everybody in this chain actually
		
00:52:45 --> 00:52:47
			meet the person that they say they narrate?
		
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			And now you may think to yourself, oh,
		
00:52:49 --> 00:52:51
			how on earth am I gonna find that
		
00:52:51 --> 00:52:51
			out?
		
00:52:53 --> 00:52:54
			We are able to find that out because
		
00:52:54 --> 00:52:56
			we have another sense that I'll mention in
		
00:52:56 --> 00:52:58
			a moment that comes under the sense of.
		
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			But we we check,
		
00:53:00 --> 00:53:02
			did everybody meet the person that they're narrating
		
00:53:02 --> 00:53:03
			from? Or,
		
00:53:05 --> 00:53:06
			if the person lived in the same period
		
00:53:06 --> 00:53:08
			of time as indeed they actually meet them,
		
00:53:08 --> 00:53:10
			did they actually okay. So we we can
		
00:53:10 --> 00:53:11
			assert that they meet each other. But do
		
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			we know that that person actually had hadith
		
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			from them, that they didn't just meet in
		
00:53:15 --> 00:53:15
			the marketplace?
		
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			That's the detail to which we actually go
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:21
			and scrutinize the change of narration of hadith.
		
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			Then
		
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			to do that, we actually need to study
		
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			the biographies of every single narrator of hadith.
		
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			We think, how on earth am I gonna
		
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			do that? In our tradition of Islamic knowledge,
		
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			and I think this is something that most
		
00:53:33 --> 00:53:36
			people don't know, we actually have sciences that's
		
00:53:36 --> 00:53:37
			specific to this.
		
00:53:41 --> 00:53:42
			Yeah.
		
00:53:43 --> 00:53:45
			I'll mention that in a moment, but
		
00:53:45 --> 00:53:47
			we have sciences that's specific to that. A
		
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			science called the Al Muir Real, the sciences
		
00:53:49 --> 00:53:50
			of,
		
00:53:51 --> 00:53:53
			literally men, but it includes females as well.
		
00:53:53 --> 00:53:56
			Obviously, female narrators of hadith, and there's many
		
00:53:56 --> 00:53:57
			of them. Karima Mawazia,
		
00:53:59 --> 00:54:00
			Amra,
		
00:54:00 --> 00:54:02
			Aisha radiya. Some of them are the most
		
00:54:02 --> 00:54:04
			promising. In fact, the most
		
00:54:06 --> 00:54:06
			precise
		
00:54:06 --> 00:54:07
			narration
		
00:54:07 --> 00:54:09
			of Sahih al Bukhari, just for those that
		
00:54:09 --> 00:54:11
			like this kind of thing, the most precise
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:13
			narration of Sahih al Bukhari
		
00:54:13 --> 00:54:15
			that we have today comes via a lady,
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:17
			by the name of Karima Al Marwazia.
		
00:54:20 --> 00:54:21
			Right.
		
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			And then in addition to actually having the
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:25
			biographies
		
00:54:25 --> 00:54:26
			of those scholars
		
00:54:27 --> 00:54:29
			documented, of those narrators of hadith documented,
		
00:54:29 --> 00:54:32
			we have signs a science called,
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:34
			vindication and verification.
		
00:54:35 --> 00:54:36
			So we have,
		
00:54:36 --> 00:54:39
			what we call hadith critiques or narrated critiques
		
00:54:40 --> 00:54:41
			that lived close to the time of those
		
00:54:41 --> 00:54:43
			people or slightly after them that assist their
		
00:54:43 --> 00:54:46
			biographies, that give rulings on them. This person
		
00:54:46 --> 00:54:48
			is a reliable person. This person,
		
00:54:49 --> 00:54:51
			he has a good memory, but, you know,
		
00:54:51 --> 00:54:52
			he used to do odd things. He used
		
00:54:52 --> 00:54:55
			to stand and urinate something that's considered socially
		
00:54:55 --> 00:54:57
			acceptable, so we're not gonna accept Hadi from
		
00:54:57 --> 00:54:57
			him. Or,
		
00:54:59 --> 00:55:00
			this person,
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:02
			he's a good person. You know? He's never
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:03
			done anything unjust. We don't know him to
		
00:55:06 --> 00:55:08
			have sinned or anything like that. But his
		
00:55:08 --> 00:55:10
			memory his memory is okay. It's not not
		
00:55:10 --> 00:55:11
			to say he did make mistakes, but we
		
00:55:11 --> 00:55:13
			can't be sure. His memory is not, like,
		
00:55:13 --> 00:55:15
			on the level of those people that,
		
00:55:15 --> 00:55:17
			hardly ever heard. So
		
00:55:18 --> 00:55:20
			we have then rulings that are given to
		
00:55:20 --> 00:55:23
			people or people assist based on these biographies.
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:25
			And, yeah, just because I think, you know,
		
00:55:25 --> 00:55:27
			this is a sign set that not many
		
00:55:27 --> 00:55:28
			people know about.
		
00:55:29 --> 00:55:31
			And on account of not knowing about it,
		
00:55:31 --> 00:55:33
			I think they they quick to criticize Hadith
		
00:55:33 --> 00:55:35
			and our dependence on Hadith and the importance
		
00:55:35 --> 00:55:37
			that we give to Hadith. I'm just gonna
		
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			show one example of a book that I
		
00:55:39 --> 00:55:42
			have in my own personal library that speaks
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:43
			about biographies of people, and this is just
		
00:55:43 --> 00:55:45
			one amongst me.
		
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			That's the first part of the book.
		
00:56:06 --> 00:56:08
			That's the second part of the same book.
		
00:56:22 --> 00:56:24
			Yes. Three other volumes of the same book,
		
00:56:26 --> 00:56:28
			and then there's 5 4 volumes of the
		
00:56:28 --> 00:56:29
			book that's out of my reach right now.
		
00:56:32 --> 00:56:33
			But, essentially, yeah, I don't know. I I
		
00:56:33 --> 00:56:35
			can't lift the book up
		
00:56:35 --> 00:56:37
			all at once to show you, but,
		
00:56:38 --> 00:56:40
			that's just one book
		
00:56:40 --> 00:56:42
			that we have that documents
		
00:56:42 --> 00:56:44
			the biographies of people.
		
00:56:45 --> 00:56:47
			And and this is, like, only the the
		
00:56:47 --> 00:56:49
			the people that come in the 6 main
		
00:56:49 --> 00:56:51
			compilations of Hadith. So so, really,
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:56
			scholars went to town with being precise in
		
00:56:56 --> 00:56:57
			documenting the biographies
		
00:56:58 --> 00:57:00
			of people that narrated hadith. Why? With the
		
00:57:00 --> 00:57:02
			sole person of critiquing every aspect of their
		
00:57:02 --> 00:57:03
			life
		
00:57:03 --> 00:57:06
			to decide whether we whether that person is
		
00:57:06 --> 00:57:07
			worthy of us taking
		
00:57:08 --> 00:57:10
			his word that what he said actually came
		
00:57:10 --> 00:57:11
			from Rasoolullah
		
00:57:11 --> 00:57:13
			or came from the person that he narrates
		
00:57:13 --> 00:57:13
			from.
		
00:57:15 --> 00:57:15
			Yeah. So
		
00:57:16 --> 00:57:18
			that he will come out as married.
		
00:57:19 --> 00:57:20
			That's just one
		
00:57:21 --> 00:57:22
			amongst many. We have
		
00:57:23 --> 00:57:25
			really this the the the stands in Islamic
		
00:57:25 --> 00:57:26
			Cloudry.
		
00:57:30 --> 00:57:33
			Right. And then, obviously, then only after we
		
00:57:33 --> 00:57:35
			can assert that things are reliable and authentic.
		
00:57:35 --> 00:57:37
			And and I can tell you there's no
		
00:57:37 --> 00:57:40
			signs of authentication or static authentication of transcriptions
		
00:57:40 --> 00:57:42
			that can rival what we have in relation
		
00:57:42 --> 00:57:44
			to HADI. I think that must be said.
		
00:57:46 --> 00:57:47
			The brother says here,
		
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			The chain of narration is the weapon of
		
00:57:57 --> 00:57:57
			the believer.
		
00:57:58 --> 00:58:00
			If he doesn't have a weapon with him,
		
00:58:00 --> 00:58:01
			then with what has he fired?
		
00:58:02 --> 00:58:05
			So some of the scholars have said, other
		
00:58:05 --> 00:58:06
			statements, you know,
		
00:58:07 --> 00:58:07
			that
		
00:58:08 --> 00:58:09
			the
		
00:58:09 --> 00:58:11
			the chain of narration is part of our
		
00:58:11 --> 00:58:13
			deen. In fact, this is time isn't permanent.
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:16
			You know, it's the means by which Allah
		
00:58:16 --> 00:58:17
			chose
		
00:58:18 --> 00:58:18
			for
		
00:58:19 --> 00:58:20
			for Islamic
		
00:58:21 --> 00:58:23
			for revelation to be preserved. The Quran as
		
00:58:23 --> 00:58:25
			well as the statements of Rasulullah,
		
00:58:26 --> 00:58:29
			via people. Allah chose for it to be
		
00:58:29 --> 00:58:30
			preserved via people,
		
00:58:31 --> 00:58:33
			as is the norm that Allah
		
00:58:33 --> 00:58:35
			uses means generally when he does things.
		
00:58:36 --> 00:58:37
			And so we're very critical
		
00:58:38 --> 00:58:40
			of reports because we want to know what
		
00:58:40 --> 00:58:42
			actually comes from Rasool. So when a scholar
		
00:58:42 --> 00:58:44
			says this hadith is authentic,
		
00:58:44 --> 00:58:45
			that means
		
00:58:45 --> 00:58:47
			they really really critic
		
00:58:48 --> 00:58:49
			the lives of the people that are in
		
00:58:49 --> 00:58:51
			those chains. Then we actually get into the
		
00:58:51 --> 00:58:53
			study of the hadith. So here we study
		
00:58:53 --> 00:58:54
			the text of the hadith, what it's saying,
		
00:58:55 --> 00:58:56
			and we derive lessons there from,
		
00:58:58 --> 00:59:01
			what laws can be derived there from how
		
00:59:01 --> 00:59:03
			the hadith the actual the Quran, we use
		
00:59:03 --> 00:59:04
			the hadith, interpret the Quran,
		
00:59:04 --> 00:59:07
			to understand the Quran in light of, you
		
00:59:07 --> 00:59:07
			know,
		
00:59:07 --> 00:59:10
			only explanations of the Quran because the Quran
		
00:59:10 --> 00:59:10
			itself means
		
00:59:12 --> 00:59:14
			that to both teach the Quran and to
		
00:59:14 --> 00:59:16
			clarify its meanings to us.
		
00:59:16 --> 00:59:19
			And then we also have studies where we
		
00:59:19 --> 00:59:21
			not just critique a hadith based on the
		
00:59:21 --> 00:59:23
			critic of its chain of narrations, but we
		
00:59:23 --> 00:59:25
			critique hadith by comparing them to each other.
		
00:59:25 --> 00:59:25
			So we'll see.
		
00:59:26 --> 00:59:27
			Here, I have 5 narrations.
		
00:59:28 --> 00:59:29
			4 of them seem to be saying the
		
00:59:29 --> 00:59:31
			same thing and one says another thing. Even
		
00:59:31 --> 00:59:33
			though the chain seems to be fine, because
		
00:59:33 --> 00:59:33
			it's contradicting
		
00:59:34 --> 00:59:36
			more authoritative people than him,
		
00:59:37 --> 00:59:39
			We we say that, no, that hadith is
		
00:59:39 --> 00:59:41
			at high it has a healing defect or
		
00:59:41 --> 00:59:42
			there's some,
		
00:59:42 --> 00:59:44
			deviance from the norm in that hadith, and
		
00:59:44 --> 00:59:46
			then we discard that hadith or call it
		
00:59:46 --> 00:59:48
			weak or fabricate it.
		
00:59:49 --> 00:59:50
			SubhanAllah.
		
00:59:50 --> 00:59:51
			Those are just the first, you know, two
		
00:59:51 --> 00:59:54
			sciences, and our time is back to the
		
00:59:54 --> 00:59:56
			upper limit. Then we have sciences of Aqaid,
		
00:59:56 --> 00:59:58
			and I'm I'm through them now because time
		
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			doesn't
		
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			I was not gonna go over an hour.
		
01:00:01 --> 01:00:02
			Here we have
		
01:00:04 --> 01:00:06
			Islamic beliefs. What do we believe in relation
		
01:00:06 --> 01:00:07
			to Allah, the qualities of Allah,
		
01:00:08 --> 01:00:10
			Allah subhanahu, is doing in this world?
		
01:00:12 --> 01:00:14
			What do we believe about messengers? What do
		
01:00:14 --> 01:00:15
			we believe about angels? What do we believe
		
01:00:15 --> 01:00:17
			about the afterlife? What do you believe about
		
01:00:17 --> 01:00:19
			the end of times? What do you believe
		
01:00:19 --> 01:00:21
			about all of those things that are unseen
		
01:00:21 --> 01:00:21
			to us,
		
01:00:23 --> 01:00:23
			as well?
		
01:00:24 --> 01:00:26
			That all comes under the subject of aqid,
		
01:00:26 --> 01:00:27
			how they are derived from the Quran and
		
01:00:27 --> 01:00:29
			from the sunnah of Rasulullah
		
01:00:31 --> 01:00:34
			then we have a subject called Almal Kalam,
		
01:00:34 --> 01:00:35
			which is a rational defense
		
01:00:36 --> 01:00:38
			of those beliefs.
		
01:00:38 --> 01:00:40
			So this is a a a subject that
		
01:00:40 --> 01:00:42
			was that also often tell people don't know
		
01:00:42 --> 01:00:44
			about. But our Islamic scholars, the likes of
		
01:00:44 --> 01:00:46
			Imam al Ghazali, the likes of Fakhruddin al
		
01:00:46 --> 01:00:49
			Razi, great thinkers in Islam, Imam al Haramain
		
01:00:49 --> 01:00:50
			al Juwayni,
		
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52
			they wrote extensive
		
01:00:52 --> 01:00:55
			works and, you know, applied their minds extensively,
		
01:00:57 --> 01:00:57
			to
		
01:00:59 --> 01:00:59
			defending
		
01:01:00 --> 01:01:03
			the beliefs that Muslims hold from a rational
		
01:01:03 --> 01:01:03
			perspective
		
01:01:03 --> 01:01:06
			without using Quran to justify it, without using,
		
01:01:07 --> 01:01:10
			the Hadith of Rasul to justify those beliefs.
		
01:01:10 --> 01:01:12
			How do we defend the beliefs that are
		
01:01:12 --> 01:01:14
			asserted by the Quran in Sunnah using only
		
01:01:14 --> 01:01:15
			our rationality?
		
01:01:17 --> 01:01:19
			So they would come up with arguments that
		
01:01:19 --> 01:01:21
			later got taken on by, you know, say
		
01:01:21 --> 01:01:23
			Thomas Aquinas and and other, you know, Krishna
		
01:01:23 --> 01:01:24
			thinkers.
		
01:01:24 --> 01:01:25
			They would
		
01:01:25 --> 01:01:27
			think up how do I prove the existence
		
01:01:27 --> 01:01:28
			of Allah
		
01:01:29 --> 01:01:31
			using only my mind? So they they would
		
01:01:31 --> 01:01:32
			say, well, I'm just gonna give you an
		
01:01:32 --> 01:01:33
			example. They'll say
		
01:01:34 --> 01:01:35
			that everything in existence,
		
01:01:36 --> 01:01:38
			it doesn't it's not a rational necessity.
		
01:01:39 --> 01:01:42
			All the material things that we see in
		
01:01:42 --> 01:01:44
			the world. The universe existing is not a
		
01:01:44 --> 01:01:45
			rational necessity.
		
01:01:47 --> 01:01:49
			It would not lead to any rational contradiction
		
01:01:49 --> 01:01:51
			if the universe didn't exist.
		
01:01:52 --> 01:01:54
			Right? But the universe does exist.
		
01:01:55 --> 01:01:57
			So if something that's not a necessity and
		
01:01:57 --> 01:02:00
			that doesn't have its own intrinsic existence, it
		
01:02:00 --> 01:02:02
			begins to exist, there must be a being
		
01:02:02 --> 01:02:02
			that brought it into exist
		
01:02:03 --> 01:02:05
			into existence. And if that being
		
01:02:06 --> 01:02:08
			is also a contingent being, meaning it required
		
01:02:08 --> 01:02:10
			something else to be made into existence,
		
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11
			then
		
01:02:12 --> 01:02:13
			there there has to be something before that.
		
01:02:13 --> 01:02:15
			And either there's a never ending chain of
		
01:02:15 --> 01:02:16
			things, which is impossible because there has to
		
01:02:16 --> 01:02:17
			be a first.
		
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			Right? So that option is ruled out. They
		
01:02:22 --> 01:02:24
			would conclude there must be a first being
		
01:02:24 --> 01:02:27
			that existed but was not grown brought into
		
01:02:27 --> 01:02:27
			existence.
		
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			And so it has not a, contingent existence,
		
01:02:31 --> 01:02:32
			but a necessary existence.
		
01:02:33 --> 01:02:33
			So,
		
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			that's just, you know, proving the existence of
		
01:02:35 --> 01:02:37
			Allah, then they'll put some of the qualities
		
01:02:37 --> 01:02:37
			of Allah
		
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			Well, if that being brought things into existence,
		
01:02:40 --> 01:02:42
			he must have ability the ability to create,
		
01:02:44 --> 01:02:45
			etcetera etcetera.
		
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			So it's a rational defense of those beliefs.
		
01:02:47 --> 01:02:48
			Then,
		
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			there's a study of
		
01:02:52 --> 01:02:54
			deviant beliefs. Beliefs
		
01:02:54 --> 01:02:55
			that
		
01:02:57 --> 01:02:58
			beliefs that
		
01:02:59 --> 01:03:01
			were brought into Islamic thought via rationality,
		
01:03:02 --> 01:03:04
			and sometimes via misinterpretations
		
01:03:04 --> 01:03:06
			of Surah Al Quran and Hadith for that
		
01:03:06 --> 01:03:07
			matter,
		
01:03:08 --> 01:03:10
			and setting them right. So those who form
		
01:03:10 --> 01:03:12
			different firoq. Maybe, for example, in the epistemology,
		
01:03:13 --> 01:03:14
			there's a group of
		
01:03:14 --> 01:03:17
			people that felt that there could be contradictions
		
01:03:17 --> 01:03:19
			between rationality and religious sources. And in that
		
01:03:19 --> 01:03:22
			instance, they would give preference to rationality, for
		
01:03:22 --> 01:03:24
			example, or they started interpreting,
		
01:03:24 --> 01:03:26
			things that didn't need to be interpreted
		
01:03:29 --> 01:03:31
			in a in a in a very like
		
01:03:31 --> 01:03:33
			in a more materialistic or naturalistic way.
		
01:03:36 --> 01:03:38
			They would form a different sect
		
01:03:39 --> 01:03:40
			as opposed to the
		
01:03:41 --> 01:03:44
			the Muslim orthodoxy if you want. And that's
		
01:03:44 --> 01:03:46
			that study is called the study of firoc.
		
01:03:46 --> 01:03:47
			Like, you know, the main one that got
		
01:03:47 --> 01:03:49
			studied was Mu'tazila or the rationalist.
		
01:03:50 --> 01:03:51
			And Muslim scholars,
		
01:03:52 --> 01:03:54
			the from the, you know, the jama'ah,
		
01:03:55 --> 01:03:58
			they then went and refute those wrong interpretations.
		
01:03:59 --> 01:04:01
			There's also a study of different religions.
		
01:04:02 --> 01:04:03
			And
		
01:04:04 --> 01:04:05
			more recently,
		
01:04:07 --> 01:04:10
			incorporated into this, bracket of studies or sciences,
		
01:04:11 --> 01:04:12
			there is the study of,
		
01:04:12 --> 01:04:13
			philosophies.
		
01:04:14 --> 01:04:15
			Actually, it's not more recent. Muslims have always
		
01:04:15 --> 01:04:18
			been studying, different philosophies, but I think it
		
01:04:18 --> 01:04:21
			got revived. It's it's given more preference now
		
01:04:21 --> 01:04:25
			than religions also. As opposed to studying Christianity
		
01:04:25 --> 01:04:27
			in our time, people who study
		
01:04:27 --> 01:04:28
			postmodernism
		
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			or modernism
		
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			or,
		
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			you know, Marxism, secularism,
		
01:04:34 --> 01:04:35
			socialism, all of these isms,
		
01:04:36 --> 01:04:36
			in
		
01:04:37 --> 01:04:40
			that's permeates the thinking of people in our
		
01:04:40 --> 01:04:40
			time.
		
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			So Muhammad Saeed Ramadan al Boute also has
		
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			a very important book on the subject.
		
01:04:51 --> 01:04:54
			The various Unitarian schools of thought,
		
01:04:55 --> 01:04:58
			Wafaa Safaa, Al Muhasa'a, and modern philosophies.
		
01:04:59 --> 01:04:59
			So
		
01:05:03 --> 01:05:05
			given that's that's part of our tradition,
		
01:05:06 --> 01:05:09
			it's not always prevalent in our modern syllabi,
		
01:05:09 --> 01:05:11
			which is very important that it should be
		
01:05:11 --> 01:05:13
			incorporated into them so that we can actually
		
01:05:13 --> 01:05:15
			interpret the world through an Islamic lens as
		
01:05:15 --> 01:05:17
			opposed to trying to Islamize,
		
01:05:18 --> 01:05:20
			thought that's not native to Islam or that
		
01:05:20 --> 01:05:22
			doesn't come from the Islamic sources.
		
01:05:25 --> 01:05:26
			I I could have forget. It should have
		
01:05:26 --> 01:05:28
			probably come earlier, but there's a study of
		
01:05:28 --> 01:05:29
			logic as well.
		
01:05:29 --> 01:05:30
			I will monitor.
		
01:05:32 --> 01:05:34
			Logic is extremely important
		
01:05:34 --> 01:05:36
			because it guides how we use our rationality.
		
01:05:36 --> 01:05:37
			It's like,
		
01:05:38 --> 01:05:39
			in fact, I studied
		
01:05:40 --> 01:05:41
			logic not in,
		
01:05:42 --> 01:05:43
			not at the.
		
01:05:44 --> 01:05:46
			I studied as part of my master degree
		
01:05:46 --> 01:05:48
			in logic and computation, and the laws are
		
01:05:48 --> 01:05:50
			practically the same transitivity in all of those,
		
01:05:50 --> 01:05:52
			how to form arguments, how to form
		
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			coherent logical arguments. Obviously, if you're going to
		
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			be defending
		
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			your creed logically,
		
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			you need to know how good logical thought,
		
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			is structured. So
		
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			logic is a is an important subject that
		
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			gets studied.
		
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			And then more broadly, we, we study as
		
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			well Islamic thought.
		
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			Something that may form of may form part
		
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			of Islamic thought, for example, is how we
		
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			conceive of the self.
		
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			Are we just matter? Are you
		
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			your body, or do you have a body?
		
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			Yeah. Are we just if we admit that
		
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			I'm more than my body, am I just
		
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			mind and matter, or am I more than
		
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			that?
		
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			Questions like that, you know, would fall apart
		
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			of Islamic thought. So
		
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			am I, for example
		
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			do I have you know, what am I
		
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			made up of? Do I have a a
		
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			heart, a spiritual heart, a soul,
		
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			you know, a basic self, a rational self.
		
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			You know, how all of those parts work.
		
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			That's part of, Islamic
		
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			Then we have, the study of,
		
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			I don't know. I'm I'm probably gonna go
		
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			quite a bit over time here. In,
		
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			what we do within
		
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			is we come we the pursuit in is
		
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			to come to a conclusion
		
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			as to what Allah's law is in relation
		
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			to every human action.
		
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			Right? So every single human action will have
		
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			a law from Allah attached to it. So
		
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			what we what we're trying to find out
		
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			is what does Allah say regarding a?
		
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			So what a faqid does
		
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			is he, you know, jumps into the Islamic
		
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			sources, all of them,
		
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			and he tries to conclude
		
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			what is what does Allah say? What is
		
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			the hitaw of Allah? What is Allah's instruction
		
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			to human beings in relation to action a?
		
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			The and that applies to every single action
		
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			that human beings can do.
		
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			So that's the pursuit in firq. How do
		
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			we actually,
		
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			study that? So firstly, what we do is
		
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			we study usool al firq, the principles that
		
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			govern firq. So what we do here is
		
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			it's almost like, you know,
		
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			Islamic legal epistemology if you want or,
		
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			Islamic legal theory if you want. So we
		
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			look at the what are the firstly, we
		
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			look at,
		
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			what are the sources of Islamic law? If
		
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			I want to know if I want to
		
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			be able to say Allah says that this
		
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			thing is permissible,
		
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			or Allah says that this thing is compulsory,
		
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			or Allah says that this thing is haram,
		
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			or Allah says that this thing is,
		
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			disliked, or Allah says that this thing is,
		
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			you know,
		
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			it's it's something that is praiseworthy. How do
		
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			I come to the how do I conclude
		
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			that this is what Allah is saying? So
		
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			we look at what are valid sources of
		
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			assumption.
		
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			And, obviously,
		
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			the the most important source of Islam everything
		
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			Islam is the Quran. And then we look
		
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			at what does the Quran assert as other
		
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			sources.
		
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			So the hadith. And then what do the
		
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			Quran and hadith assert as other sources?
		
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			Scholarly consensus of all of the scholars over
		
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			time and then analogies. And then there's other
		
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			sources as well. For example,
		
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			the statements of companions.
		
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			The,
		
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			you know,
		
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			that is a different upon, but the legislatures
		
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			or the the laws of prior nations,
		
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			the concept of public interest,
		
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			that's what that that people speak about very
		
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			often in that time. All of those, we
		
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			study the the sources of law. Then we
		
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			study with we study the framework in which
		
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			we use those sources of law. So, for
		
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			example, when I have a Quranic ayat, how
		
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			do I understand this Quranic ayat? Do I
		
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			just go to some figurative interpretation of the
		
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			eye, or do I first understand it literally?
		
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			And then if there's no evidence to say
		
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			that it shouldn't be understood literally, I I'll
		
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			leave it like that. Or if there is
		
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			a,
		
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			a
		
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			or a,
		
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			another evidence that tells me that I need
		
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			to understand it,
		
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			differently,
		
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			then move to that understanding. So we we
		
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			study the frameworks in which we use these
		
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			sources of law.
		
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			And then we also look at what are
		
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			the conditions for a person that does this
		
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			action.
		
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			What qualifies a person to do the process
		
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			of deriving laws from the sources of Islam?
		
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			That's what we're studying in Uxwudufir.
		
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			Then we study
		
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			framework in which to assist the laws that
		
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			are arrived at via us. In fact, in
		
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			our derivation of law, we don't use the
		
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			Maqas, Sharia. We don't use the the the
		
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			the objectives of the law.
		
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			We use
		
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			the sources of law,
		
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			the the adila firkhiyah as opposed to the
		
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			maqasid,
		
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			the the source of Islamic law as opposed
		
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			to the intents of the lawmaker.
		
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			And then we check that that law that
		
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			we arrive at is correct
		
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			by assessing it in light of the Maharsid,
		
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			ensuring that it doesn't go against any of
		
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			the,
		
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			any of the, Maharsid or the high objectives
		
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			of the Islamic law. There is a certain
		
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			framework in which we do use the Maharsid
		
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			Sharia
		
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			in the derivation of law. But then we
		
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			don't call it the Maqas, we call it
		
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			Maslaha. And Maslaha
		
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			also has a very defined,
		
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			sphere in which we go through. Like, for
		
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			example, we won't take our subjective understanding of
		
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			justice
		
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			as opposed
		
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			to something that the Quran clearly mentions. For
		
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			example,
		
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			the Quran mentions that,
		
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			you know, in inheritance, for example, a male
		
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			gets double the share of a female.
		
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			Obviously, the Quran also assigns the responsibilities
		
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			that he has in relation to that share
		
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			that he gets. So we should apply things
		
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			holistically.
		
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			But, we won't say that, no, our understanding
		
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			of justice is that,
		
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			that both human beings, they should get the
		
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			equal share.
		
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			No. So we won't go to to that
		
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			understanding
		
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			of, you know, that's completely subjective understanding. It
		
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			fits into the hierarchy of of of sources
		
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			of law in a specific place. If we
		
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			take it out to that hierarchy of,
		
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			of evidences,
		
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			then we,
		
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			you know, face the risk of
		
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			making the sharia subject to so subjected to
		
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			our own,
		
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			you know, subjective thoughts. And that's actually the
		
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			the idea of the dawn of.
		
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			Then what we study is,
		
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			we study
		
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			legal maxims. So we we study trends in
		
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			the law. So we'll see, for example,
		
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			in in all laws,
		
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			Allah is ensuring
		
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			that no harm,
		
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			is either done to the self or to
		
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			others.
		
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			So that becomes a legal maximum now. So
		
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			this legal maximum also help us to assist
		
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			when we are arriving at laws for new
		
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			things. For example,
		
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			what's what's in Newcross? Here, we have the
		
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			coronavirus now. Should we should we,
		
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			still be going to the Masjid
		
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			en masse.
		
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			In light of the that says,
		
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			or no no harm should be inflicted upon
		
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			the self or others,
		
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			we would understand that saying or maintaining the
		
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			normal law goes actually against the trends or
		
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			the general trends of the law, and it
		
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			also goes against the intent over the Mahbazir
		
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			of the sharia. And, therefore, it doesn't seem
		
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			to make sense in this context. That's just
		
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			one aspect of the thinking of
		
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			a fakir or jurisdiction
		
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			in such matters. Then we have also the
		
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			study of,
		
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			fiqh according to the schools of,
		
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			of law. So for example,
		
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			we are Shafi'i community in the Western Cape,
		
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			so we generally study Shafi'i firk. And why
		
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			we actually have these badaip is because
		
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			in terms of the usool al firk, there's
		
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			certain
		
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			sources or certain,
		
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			points in that usool that people prefer upon.
		
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			For example,
		
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			one little example would be that,
		
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			Imam Malik says that
		
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			if I have find a single person making
		
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			a statement about the,
		
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			about the sunnah of Rasool
		
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			Allah and then I have all of the
		
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			people in Madinah doing an action different to
		
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			that. The action of the people in Madinah
		
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			is a better representation of the sunnah than
		
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			that
		
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			that hadith narrated by one chain, for example,
		
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			or even by 2 or 3 chains.
		
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			Whereas, Imam Al Shafi'i says no.
		
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			Muslims spread all over the world.
		
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			So there may be somebody that has a
		
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			hadith that's now in,
		
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			Kufa
		
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			or Basra or somewhere else,
		
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			and the people of Medina,
		
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			don't necessarily have that hadith with him. So
		
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			we should give preference to the hadith over
		
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			the actions of the people of Medina.
		
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			So they actually look at that
		
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			that hierarchy in that way. And and because
		
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			we have differences in principles via which we
		
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			derive law, that's why we actually have differences
		
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			of opinion in relation to those that are
		
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			arrived at, via the principles of the equation.
		
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			So that's why I would define my. So
		
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			scholars study
		
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			law according to those different
		
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			sets of,
		
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			principles.
		
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			Then there's obviously the comparisons of those various
		
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			laws that we put into detail. And there's
		
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			a number of other laws, like, what are
		
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			the etiquettes of
		
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			of being a jurist, how do I pronounce
		
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			this? How do courts work, etcetera?
		
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			What is the fiqh of,
		
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			of,
		
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			when you how do I derive fiqh when
		
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			new things occur? For example, the whole, you
		
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			know, this industrial revolution, the whole way that
		
01:15:41 --> 01:15:44
			people interact or transact with each other changes.
		
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			How do I then update the law, etcetera?
		
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			So has
		
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			built into itself the I the the ability
		
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			to update itself in relation to how the
		
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			world is structured.
		
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			Then we have the study of history.
		
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			Again, I'm just gonna mention the subject because
		
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			I'm way over time already. We have the
		
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			study of the the prophetic biography and then
		
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			history history of different sciences, how they developed
		
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			and how they crystallized and how they were
		
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			formed, as well as history of the world.
		
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			You know? History of,
		
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			and and, generally, it's it's it's what gets
		
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			studied in the Arun Lusi 3.60 from the
		
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			time of the companions of Rospondyluson
		
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			until the end of the Ottoman Empire, we
		
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			should give a lot more emphasis on what
		
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			happened after that and outside of the festival
		
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			that must be acknowledged.
		
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			And then
		
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			but to forget,
		
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			very importantly, there's the there's the subject of,
		
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			Tasawoff,
		
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			the subject of, of Tezgia, the subject of,
		
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			you know,
		
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			the the the the internal sciences that don't
		
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			relate necessarily,
		
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			to our rationality. They don't necessarily relate to,
		
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			the the material world around us, but they
		
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			relate to our our,
		
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			you know, our conduct, our inner self. How
		
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			do we train ourselves? How do we how
		
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			do we journey closer to Allah
		
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			with our spiritual selves? How do we purify
		
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			ourselves of, of our, you know, of our
		
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			basic desires, inclinations, etcetera?
		
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			How should our conduct be? How do we
		
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			imbibe within ourselves those conducts, etcetera? And and
		
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			there we study books like,
		
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			the,
		
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			as, as well as a number of other
		
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			texts that relate to spirituality,
		
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			those hidden aspects of human beings.
		
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			I probably did an injustice to the various
		
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			sciences, but that's what I what I had
		
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			jot it down for the moment.
		
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			If I could just take, like, 3 minutes
		
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			to if I could just take, like,
		
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			3 minutes to to to wrap up.
		
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			It's important to note that what I've mentioned,
		
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			those are just some of the topic headings.
		
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			If one actually goes
		
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			ventures into an Islamic library, you can find,
		
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			you know, the library in Turkey. It's, you
		
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			know,
		
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			a number of floors filled with books.
		
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			So I I can't even explain to you.
		
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			I have to actually just go to an
		
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			Islamic library to see the depth of Islamic
		
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			scholarship. It's something that we really need to
		
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			appreciate. We need to rid ourselves of that
		
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			inferiority complex that our,
		
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			you know, religious heritage does not have something
		
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			to contribute to the real world that we
		
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			live in. That will actually allow us to
		
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			solve problems with a greater connection
		
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			to the Quran, the guidance of Allah Subhanahu
		
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			wa Ta'ala, with a greater connection to the
		
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			sunnah of Rasool Allah. In fact, this should
		
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			should should be the basis of our thinking
		
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			as Muslims.
		
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			So, you know, just as a solution, how
		
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			do we remedy this?
		
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			How do we remedy this?
		
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			I see, well, Anwar just made me touch
		
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			on that. Now he's the one that gave
		
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			me the time.
		
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			But, anyways,
		
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			how do we remedy this? I don't have
		
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			all the solutions,
		
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			But I can tell you what scholars are
		
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			attempting to do,
		
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			and what I think we should attempt to
		
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			do as well as a community.
		
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			On one front,
		
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			scholars are or on the front of what
		
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			scholars are attempting to do is, number 1,
		
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			they're getting more engaged in studying
		
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			western philosophy.
		
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			Why?
		
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			So that we can understand
		
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			the underpinnings
		
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			of how the world in our time operates.
		
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			So that we can understand what permeates through
		
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			the thinking of our,
		
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			of the world we live in today. And
		
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			then to critique
		
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			those
		
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			those philosophies or those thoughts in light of
		
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			Islamic thought that originates from the Quran.
		
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			Right?
		
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			That's on one front. On another front,
		
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			well, they're
		
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			just trying to access
		
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			the tradition
		
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			of Islamic scholarship to a greater degree. On
		
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			account of of of colonialism in many parts
		
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			of the world,
		
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			Islamic education was very much focused on preservation.
		
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			So you'd find people just memorizing the Quran,
		
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			just memorizing hadith, not actually looking into the
		
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			depths of interpretations
		
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			of those things, not looking at those things
		
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			in light of thought as opposed to just
		
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			mere,
		
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			action and a ritual action for that matter.
		
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			So scholars are trying
		
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			to,
		
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			get to grips
		
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			with how to view the world through an
		
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			Islamic lens by understanding
		
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			the way the world works and this understanding
		
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			how people think in our time,
		
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			and bringing that back to a more Quran
		
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			centric approach or,
		
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			Quran hadith centric,
		
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			approach to dealing with these things.
		
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			Ask with,
		
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			you know, the world becoming a global village,
		
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			Scholars also collaborate with each other,
		
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			all around the world just this afternoon. Actually,
		
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			every day since the beginning of the lockdown,
		
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			we've been having 4 hours of class with
		
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			Munat Baikaran, with,
		
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			scholars scholars from all over the world,
		
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			listening to a hadith, and then when they
		
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			give some interpretation of the in light of
		
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			the world that we live in.
		
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			So so scholars are trying to do that
		
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			within their own circles.
		
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			In addition to that, how I think we
		
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			can remedy the situation going forward
		
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			is that we need to create
		
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			pedagogies
		
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			or syllabi or schools
		
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			in which
		
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			our Islamic worldview
		
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			and our religious worldview can permeate how we
		
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			learn everything.
		
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			So for example, we need to have schools,
		
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			not just a school that takes
		
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			a western syllabus and then adds to that
		
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			Islamic studies,
		
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			and there's only Muslims at the school. No.
		
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			That's not what I mean.
		
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			What I mean is we should try and
		
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			have schools that children from a very young
		
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			age, they learn,
		
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			logic
		
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			that
		
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			that
		
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			that the before logic, that that they learn
		
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			the Quran, they learn to understand the Quran.
		
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			I mean, how many of us have been
		
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			are deprived of having understood the Quran for
		
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			most of our lives?
		
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			It's only those that actually really find some
		
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			time in their life to take out a
		
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			year or take out 2 years that actually
		
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			go through the meaning of the Quran, you
		
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			know, with a teacher that can actually explain
		
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			to that has read the Tasik of this
		
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			Quran. It's a it's a privilege.
		
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			So we need to make that more normal
		
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			in the lives of,
		
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			our
		
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			coming generations, people in our own lives to
		
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			start with, but then in the pedagogies of
		
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			of coming generations,
		
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			we need to have people learning, We need
		
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			to have people learning science
		
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			with the with the understanding that all of
		
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			this comes from Allah. We need to always
		
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			be engaging our learning with, how does this
		
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			bring me closer to Allah, and how do
		
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			I see Allah through this?
		
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			How do I see Allah through the creation?
		
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			And then when it comes to matters of
		
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			assigned subjects of more
		
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			more philosophical subjects, I need to take guidance
		
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			from the Quranic source, from the Quran, from
		
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			the hadith. I actually need to read them
		
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			and understand them and then let that shape
		
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			up.
		
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			And, we also need to,
		
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			yeah, we we actually just need to engage
		
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			what our tradition actually
		
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			mention,
		
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			what what what our tradition has to say
		
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			on these things. So we need to untap
		
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			that we need to, like,
		
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			tap into that, untapped source
		
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			of Islamic thought. To be honest with you,
		
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			I teach and
		
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			I'm, you know,
		
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			delving into Islamic thoughts at a deeper level
		
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			myself now. So it's something that's a that's
		
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			a work in progress. But once that gets
		
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			established,
		
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			in our syllabus, then perhaps,
		
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			we will have scholarship that's a lot more
		
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			relevant to the world that we live,
		
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			in and that can provide solutions more immediately
		
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			to the problems that we face. Because, you
		
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			know, oftentimes, problems that we face in the
		
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			world,
		
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			oftentimes, we go to different isms like
		
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			I I I I don't wanna
		
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			critique any,
		
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			aspect of activism or anything like that. That's
		
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			that's not my intention. But oftentimes, we buy
		
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			into
		
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			other movements,
		
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			and we try to Islamize our participation
		
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			in those movements rather than actually having
		
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			our our thought process solution,
		
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			building mechanisms
		
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			based on that thought from the very inception.
		
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			So that's something that, very important that we
		
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			need to do. Two questions that are just
		
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			coming in. How do MSAs engage with these
		
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			concepts at a very basic level? Obviously, taking
		
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			into account the primary purpose of the MSA,
		
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			how do we capacitate MSAs and the union
		
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			specifically?
		
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			Brilliant question.
		
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			Brilliant question. The first suggestion that I have
		
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			in relation to that is
		
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			try and get a panel of
		
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			and and and this will comes from discussion
		
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			with.
		
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			Try and get a panel of scholars that
		
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			are in touch
		
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			with the world the struggles of the world
		
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			that we live in, and, you know, have
		
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			them as a as an advisory,
		
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			committee
		
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			to direct the MSA's activism to ensure that
		
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			we never stepping out of line of what
		
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			acceptable is.
		
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			Secondly,
		
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			you know, that's an external thing, but how
		
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			do we actually upgrade the people that come
		
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			through the MSA? Here, I think we need
		
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			to go back to the system of Halakhon.
		
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			Okay. When I say Halakhon, maybe think of
		
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			old things. We need to have reading circles.
		
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			We need to have learning circles, and it's
		
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			so easy now. We can use Zoom. We
		
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			can use whatever.
		
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			Let's read articles and discuss with each other.
		
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			Let's no, dear. I have understandings from them.
		
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			Yaqeen institutes you. Brilliant work in this regard.
		
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			Let's read the articles. Let's, let's discuss it.
		
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			We don't have to restrict ourselves to that.
		
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			Many we have, you know, bright people within
		
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			the MSA that are dealing with challenges in
		
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			society. Let them engage,
		
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			you know, with
		
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			scholars that are available to them, and then
		
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			let us become those who produce knowledge, based
		
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			on this,
		
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			Islamic epistemology, if you will.
		
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			So so two things over there.
		
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			Have scholars that we can rely upon and
		
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			engage with them. And secondly,
		
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			I think for those of us that have
		
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			already been through our schooling, we need to
		
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			get into reading circles,
		
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			with with people of various levels. So I
		
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			would advise that if you can have somebody
		
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			that that that understands Arabic in a reading
		
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			circle, that that will be brilliant. Somebody that
		
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			already has exposure to the tradition to some
		
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			degree, that will be brilliant and benefit, to
		
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			enhance the circle to clarity. But those leading
		
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			circles are extremely, extremely important.
		
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			Are those classes open to the public? It
		
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			is open to the public,
		
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			but because
		
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			you can contact me, privately if you'd like
		
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			to. However, everything in the class is in
		
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			Arabic,
		
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			and it's like that's at a very, very
		
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			fast paced reading of the hadith.
		
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			But anybody's welcome because it's a reading of
		
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			hadith primarily. So there's blessings in that if
		
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			anybody wants to listen in public, you can
		
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			you're more than welcome.
		
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			Or would it be too intense? Or there's
		
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			a little no prior knowledge.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			The intensity comes from the fact that it's
		
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			all in Arabic and it's the the place
		
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			is very, very fast. So
		
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			yeah. However, if somebody would just like to
		
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			listen to the hadith, anyway, you can,
		
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			contact me somehow through somebody in the image,
		
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			and then I can hook you up inshallah.
		
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			But yeah. I hope, you know, my Allah,
		
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			Barakay and what this long discussion that we
		
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			had. I'm sorry for going over time
		
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			because I was prepping without you know? Well,
		
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			I should have mentioned my time. But, anyways,
		
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			I hope it was beneficial, and I hope
		
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			it stimulates us engaging with our tradition more.
		
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			And I hope it it
		
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			it it plays some part
		
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			in giving us confidence in what we have
		
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			and the the the desire to actually tap
		
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			into that.
		
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			If there's no more questions, then I'll end
		
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			there for now.
		
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			I must lastly, I must just thank the
		
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			the MSA for putting this thing together, all
		
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			of the talks. I haven't been able to
		
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			listen to all of them yet, but what
		
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			I have has been very beneficial.
		
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			I encourage,
		
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			everybody listening to actually subscribe to the MSA
		
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			channel and, the MSA
		
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			channel. And to watch this space, we'll have
		
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			more,
		
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			similar discourses taking place. Maybe this can be
		
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			the starting point of our of our reading
		
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			circles. We engage a variety of topics relevant
		
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			to us as, Muslim youth,
		
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			in South Africa and as global citizens.
		
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			That would be very beneficial.