Channel: Yusuf Estes
Very interesting Talk given at Christchurch, NewZealand.
I'd like to begin, first of all by saying that the speech tonight will be in the form of English.
Although I have to simultaneously translate from my native language
The year use the term common sense. Did you get that today? Anybody observed this common sense?
And I think having any sense at all these days is not really that common is it?
Seriously, the more I, the more I look into some of the things that are going on, the more I'm wondering, where's the sense behind any of it?
15 years ago,
I was of the opinion that all Muslims were basically
hijackers and kidnappers terrorists. And,
you know, basically, they didn't believe in God, worshipping a black box out in a desert somewhere kissing the ground five times a day.
I never dreamed that I would meet a Muslim. And then when I did, I thought the best thing for this person was to convert them to Christianity.
And if anybody would ever told me that I'd be hanging out with Muslims at all, I would have told them they needed
common sense. That didn't work.
it was amazing. challenge me somewhere along the road. And that challenge was a came backwards, actually, to me, I didn't see it coming.
Because the person said to me that he would
come to my religion if my religion is better than his religion.
I figured, hey, Christianity, you don't have to pray five times a day, you don't have to stand and worship God in a certain way. And you don't have to go in Mecca for something is called pilgrimage. And you don't have to fast the month of Ramadan. And you don't have to pay something called Zika. And basically, you don't really have to do anything, as far as a daily routine or anything like that.
But then he hit me with a common sense question. He said, I'll vote to your religion, if it's better than mine. But would you come to mind if it's better than yours?
And all I could think about was Yes, but yes, but I'm sure that minds better.
He said, I'll come to your religion, though. If it's better.
Then he said, but you'll need proof.
And I was thinking, hold on second. Religion is not about proof. It's about faith.
He said, but in Islam, we have both.
And I'm saying, You mean you can prove there's God?
He said, Oh, yeah. Without doubt, we can do that. We can offer proof.
I said, Yeah, but scientific proof. He said, yeah. I said, No testable, proof evidence that God exists. He said, Islam has been offering that for 1400 years.
So if that's the case, why are there still atheists out there?
And there's a good common sense question in
either they haven't been exposed to this evidence that he's talking about.
Or, or they're not using common sense, one or the other.
But I'll come back to what happened.
I decided that if he had any kind of proof, I needed it myself certainly would help in the work that I was doing preaching, etc.
And that's when I began this exploration
to try to better understand what it is that Muslims are talking about. And a phrase that's used by Muslims all the time La Ilaha.
Muslims understand it pretty fast.
I believe and this is my contention that the problem lies on the side of the Muslims to feel like they really haven't done a job to get that message.
Even instilled within themselves much less try to convince somebody else is that pretty much true.
Again, here you
don't forget you're gonna be asked the same thing on the Day of Judgment.
Same thing. Am I right or wrong?
That's what I thought.
Sometimes the truth does hurt.
Especially when somebody puts it right in the face the common sense truth is we
as Muslims, I consider myself one now. haven't really done job. That's why I'm happy to be here on
part of voice of Islam. I think this is a great effort. It's interesting that the some of the best efforts that I've seen in the Western world arbeiten Muslims that are like myself, people who came to Islam, people who chose to spend the rest of their lives trying to apologize for the rest of the Muslims who didn't do the job.
But I think that's been hard enough on the Muslims, I think it's now time to talk about what that message is, and hope that are delivered in a common sense way.
The first thing to do though, before you go into a subject like this is to be sure everybody is agreeing on the terms and understanding what's being meant by what's being said. That's why I always do a little bit of etymology, least five minutes worth in any program that I do, be sure you understood what I meant by what I said.
The first word I want to break down for you is the word a law. I was on a television program here today in Christ Church with a woman by the name of job, some of you probably know who she is, she was bringing up the subject of a law, she's saying to her looks like a law, and God could be the same.
And I said, No, it's not right. And she was surprised that I said that. And I said, not that your understanding of the word, but the word itself, the word God doesn't equal the word alone.
The reason for that is because you don't have a word in the English for a law.
You if you're using English, and trying to talk about the God of Abraham, and the God of Adam, and the God of Jesus, peace and blessings be upon them.
You don't have the same word that these mighty prophets had. Because they had the Semitic languages, Hebrew, and Aramaic, and Arabic, all have a word that they can use for a proper noun, for the one and only God.
Did you know that that was a fact?
But I'll help you to give evidence. Because anytime we're going to talk about common sense, you got to have evidence or proof what you said, it has to be something you can at least test to see if there's some reality to it. So and we found this to be true right here in Christ Church.
And that's in the hotel or motel where we're at, we pull the drawer out, beside the bed, reach in and take out the what?
Everybody knows that don't you just know that there wasn't any second thought. We weren't talking about a map of the area. There's a Bible in there placed by the Gideon society. And when you open it up, you turn by pages.
And you look, and it tells you the languages that they've translated the Bible into. first of them is the Afrikaans language. And then the second one says, Are via Arabic.
The verse it's been translated is john 316.
And now who doesn't know what's john 316 anybody doesn't know.
Almost everybody in the room, even the Muslims know what it is For God so loved the world. Now you know, the rest of it, okay? Look at it in Arabic, if you can read Arabic in it says, real clear, Allah.
Allah, Ali, lamb lamb.
Right there. So that verse for Christians, is very clear to use this word a lot. But the word for God, the Word for a god is ILA in Arabic. Whenever something is worshipped, whether it be a rock, a stick, a stone, of bone, or any object of affection, that is sacrificed to supplicated to or asked from or giving thanks to all of these things. God, like you could use it.
the little letter G, God, but when you use a capital G, or D, you're still using the exact same word. There's no difference. And you said, Yeah, but it's capitalized on my voice. And if you're talking to somebody, how can they tell it's capitalized? Are you going to jump up every time you say, God, what was that?
And if you start a sentence, you have no option you have to start it with the capital letter G.
And the reason isn't that there's anything wrong with your thinking there's nothing wrong with the concept of God. The problem is English doesn't have the word never did have. So you're just substituting a word you already have and capitalizing it.
The word used in the Arabic for Jews, on the first page of Genesis is a law in Arabic language. And there are Arab Jews. And it's spelled I'll eat lamb lamb ha, Allah 17 times on page one, in their Bible, in their book, same book that they attribute to Moses, the first five books are attributed to Moses.
So now that we got that established, means whenever you hear a law, you're talking about the word used
in the Arabic, the word used in Aramaic, that's the language of Jesus is almost identical Allah and if Israel I don't hear a difference, when I'm pronouncing a silent age, on one hand, not on the other a lot. And
essentially, again, same word. So I got that out of the way. Next word is Islam. When I'm talking about Islam, what am I talking about?
Most people consider this them to be the proper noun,
representing the religion or more of all Muslims, going back to Muhammad peace be upon.
But in fact, the reference used within the Quran itself, and even in the Bible, you might be surprised, is talking about the verb form from Asilomar
and this is to surrender, submit, obey, insincerity and in peace, Almighty God, Allah.
This indicates immediately to entities, one who's submitting,
and one who's being submitted to
one who is surrendering. And the one that they're surrendering their choice to allowing allows will dominate in their life. If you're familiar with the Bible, there's a phrase used by Jesus peace be upon him in two of the Gospels, where he talks to them about a prayer which we today called the Lord's Prayer. And it says in their real clear day, to invoke God by saying Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Now, if you're a Christian, you're supposed to be praying that every day.
And yet, you will find that there's no difference between this expression and the meaning of the word Islam. If you're asking for God's will, that's what Muslims are talking about when they say Islam, to do God's will, instead of doing what you want to do, to give up these worldly desires, lust,
and chasing after you after the almighty dollar, in favor of obeying the Almighty.
If you get that concept already, if that's in your mind, then you can understand the word Islam much better.
I realized that we have the newspapers telling us how to think every day, we have journalists, who are telling us how to use our brain horn, basically not use it. And this is really why we have drawn conclusions that we've come up with. And Muslims are no different than anybody else in this respect. Because there are journalists on both sides, whether from the west or the east, presenting these concepts, presenting these ideas in such a way that we have a tendency to believe that that's all there is to it. It's just that and nothing more.
One is to show you something and then I think it'll help you to know better.
You have a choice. You can consider your journalists and your editors to be either ignorant, in which case you shouldn't waste your money on their papers, or consider them to be devious, in which case, you should work to get rid of these folks and replace them with somebody a little bit more honest. That's your two choices. Because
when you see something that's real clear, and there's no doubt about it, but yet they're telling you something else. Then what is the motive behind that?
The example I'm gonna give you right now, don't you think about when they use terms like
and then talk about, in contrast to those who are the Islamics.
Now, I've seen it to the extent that when I was down in Florida on a talk show, when we came off and by the way on the talk show the questions that the host presented to me, were not truly questions.
They were statements, loaded statements that didn't provide
did not provide for any opportunity to give a straight answer. Let me give you an example of that somebody says to you,
can you answer a question for me? Yes or No, our audience is listening today. And we just like you to give a yes or no answer to a simple question. Okay. Is your mother out of jail yet?
My mother has never been No, no, yes or no? Yes, sir. No, just real quick. But she's never been Yes, sir. No, so you're not going to answer the question. I see. That Well, okay. She's out of jail. Well, glad she got out.
There's no way you can deal with a question like that. And this is exactly what this woman on this show was doing to me some years ago in Florida,
on the way out the door and by the way, she had all this stuff written down. She'd had a book which attacks Islam, and she had this questions about this book,
written by Steve Emerson.
Now, by the way, he's from Oklahoma City, and he has his own reasons why he hates Muslims. And that's why he calls himself an expert on terrorism. But to hate something doesn't make you an expert on it. It really doesn't.
We were going out the door
of the studio where we did the program, that radio show, the woman turned to me and said, Oh, when we were on the air, I forgot to ask you I wanted to find out if you were one of the moslems or one of the Islamics.
The Muslims are laughing because it's hysterical. If you know Arabic,
let's say hysterical, then First of all, there isn't really anything such as in Islam, ik your Latin Ising, the term Islam,
meaning that somebody who follows Islam
and some would actually have you believe that there's a difference between somebody following Islam, and I'm one of those Muslims.
But if you know just the beginning of the Arabic language, you know how big of a lie that really is? Because in English,
we would add er, after a verb to show you the one who performs the verb, yes or no? Yeah, okay. Let's do some examples, though. Walk Walker,
talk talker, think thinker, stinks thinker, like that.
But in Arabic, they don't, it's not structured the same way. Just like Hebrew is not structured like that. You have a prefix of the letter mean, which was pronounced move like this move. So if somebody or guns they give the other one, they're called the atom, not a downer.
Funny in in
So another one is if somebody is traveling
in Arabic, the word is suffer. And our word Safari comes from the Arabic word suffer. But if you said in English, this man is a sufferer, by the way, somehow Marcela do suffer. But this is a story. But if this sounds funny,
he's a must suffer.
If he says speaking is multicolumn if he's praying, he's moved slowly. And you don't catch that until you know this, this rule. So if anybody is slammed, they're not an Islamic.
There are Muslim move Islam. So it's like somebody's asking you, you know, Are you a human or are you a homosapien?
And they're saying with a straight face, and it's like,
you don't get common sense out of those kinds of questions.
So there's the problems.
But one more word for you to think about. And then I'll go to the topic Exactly.
The word is caught on. Now even the Muslims mess up on this one when they try to translate it. And it's not really the fault of anybody. It's just one of those things, the English language changes
on a regular basis, but sometimes radically, sometimes to the extent that within two or 300
Yours a word has lost its meaning and became some other meaning. And in some cases, even in 50 years, a word is totally the opposite of what it used to be.
the word gay
doesn't need to explain anything
you already understood.
What did I mean?
If you look to the dictionary 50 years ago, it was very clear that someone was happy, jovial,
very, very pleased, he is gay.
And if you couple that with a phrase that used to be used differently, somebody's looking for something, you know, and they're digging around for it and house and go off here into the hall closet. And I found it so I'm very happy. So he says,
I just came out of the closet and I'm gay.
What kind of uh, you know, stop, think what do you just said?
Sean, just talking about language itself.
And the word for Mr. Use the Bible for the benefit of those that are Christian, you probably realize this real quick.
We're in the Bible does it say to beat children,
to make them come to Jesus? Does it say that, to beat on the children and make them come to Jesus? How many know what I'm talking about? Anybody, suffer the children to come unto me, such as the kingdom of heaven. suffer, Su FF er, is used right down. But this that word meant, not the way we understand the word suffer today is.
Again, it's because of the language change. Now, if you get the Revised Standard Version of the Bible, in the preface to it, it explains that word and many other words that just don't fit any longer. And that's why they had to call for a change to the translation. A re translation of the
King James version was done in 1952, I believe. And that was one of the key reasons because words just don't mean the same thing that in fact, they'd found a lot of other older manuscripts. And we're better prepared to offer renderings to meanings.
So this word Koran has been misunderstood even by Muslims. And they call it the Holy Book of Islam.
In fact, if I would have started out by saying Holy Book of Islam, I think everybody here would have just assumed I was talking about the Quran, right?
But holy book in Arabic is kuttabul muchness.
And what book Now am I talking about? That's the Bible. Yes or No, that's exactly what Arab Christians called the Bible.
So the problem comes in off the English translation, over 100 years ago, using the word for standing and doing poetry or recitation from memory. They used to call it a reading, and a person would stand and read.
Just as you might expect, someone to do the
the Light Brigade or recite the constitution or any kind of reading, Mary had a little lamb, Its fleece was white as snow And everywhere that Mary went, the lamb was sure to go that's a reading. So somebody would say read. So first word coming in the Granny's echo. Which means what?
I just got through explaining to you wasn't that and you said it anyway. Didn't you? Just got through telling you that and you said it anyway. Because of what? Because you have had it repetitiously presented to you over and over and over and over, and it was an order read as the imperative of this verb you read? That's the way it's offered in Arabic. To whom? Who was being ordered to read.
Mohammed, did he know how to read?
And who is the order in him to read the angel Gabriel sent by a law now you're gonna tell me a lot didn't know that Mohammed did not read.
I thought we were gonna talk about common sense.
Echo is there reason eflora Bismillah Arabic Allah Holla Holla Colleen sannomiya Allah icaro Well, rabuka Grom
Love Your llama bill? Calum allama in Santa Milan, Milan.
This acre are not. And you're translating that as what?
He was saying in reply, la onna me, Cory. I'm not a reciter.
That's what he said, read the hoodie.
He also said on ami, which is illiterate, but for sure you have to understand the word core is the recitation is the actual recitation that Mohammed peace be upon him heard from the angel, then he recited it, his companions recited it, and they passed it on an oral tradition, mouth to ear over the many centuries.
Our visitors, our guests here tonight, do not know that.
Many of you learned it when you were little, you just accepted it. But when translation you're given a total wrong picture about this, you make it sound like he's sitting there reading and writing. And he came up with this whole thing sitting in a cable somewhere and went, let's see, let's make up a religion today. Oh, let me begin by
women have to get all covered up, man, let me start with
this not how it did, it didn't come this way. How it came was the angel Gabriel jabril in Hebrew, and in Arabic is called jabril. He comes
to Muhammad peace be upon him over a period of 23 years with little bits and pieces until the very end. And at the very end of the whole thing. And the month of Ramadan, the angel recites the entire course on cover to cover to Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. And then he in turn repeats it in front of the people so they can hear it, because obviously they're not hearing the angel.
Now, the significance gets real critical when you understand that in later years.
One of the companions of Muhammad became the leader of the Muslims, and ordered this to be put down sort of like the official rubber stamp from the government kind of a thing. This is how it's to be done. People today, not knowing Arabic and not knowing the story, have a tendency to think that it's actually something that came up 30 years after Muhammad did and they wrote it down. And some people even stretched it further that and said it was 200 years later and this kind of thing. And that's not the way it was. In fact, it comes like this, that they brought reciters together who sat there and recited while somebody wrote down and they were just double checking to make sure they wrote the
same thing that was being recited because the Quran is recited.
Today, just as it was recited 1400 years ago.
Now, I would challenge anybody to consider this just for a minute. To go back, let us just go back six 700 years to the time of Shakespeare. anybody here ever read Shakespeare?
Have you read it?
Yeah. And now those of you who have studied Shakespeare as a, as a topic in university or anything like this, you might, you might already be aware of it. But there are some folks out there don't know this. There are many versions of Shakespeare's work. Did you know that many, because in fact, some of what comes out really wasn't from Shakespeare. It was some of those who had done these plays, Thespians, who had later written down some things and they had shared this with others and did different forms of the same place. That's why they're different versions.
You might be surprised to realize that the same is true of Homer and the Iliad and the Odyssey, that in fact they do attribute those works to his students not really to him. How many of you heard that before? Yeah, we do have some students of the language. Okay.
Now the Quran is not like that. There are not any versions of the Quran except when you do translations of the language and we don't consider that to be the Koran anymore. As soon as you say the Quran in English has mistakes we're gonna go there's no such thing as Quran in English. What there is is people's interpretation that they wrote down and that's not the port on so this is another mistake that Muslims have made and it's it's understandable how you would do it because you're trying to tell people look, here's the copy of the crown. Would you like the Quran? Like take it home and read it? Yeah, sure would. Well here you go. here and it says more is poor and right
across the top you get home open it up Salim dish, how could that be wrong?
It's impossible. Remember I said it's recitation. Quran means the recipe.
That's a translation to another mind which
is complete all 6327 verses or is of the Quran are today the same as they were at the time that came to Muhammad. Nobody has taken anything out or added anything to since his the peace be upon
that true Muslims.
That way you understood it. That's what this is what I understood.
Now I have visited many Muslim countries, Turkey,
the Gulf countries like Arabia and Kuwait,
Pakistan, India, which is a Hindu country, but has a lot of Muslims over there.
Then I visited a lot of non Muslim countries as well. Or to Europe, UK just came off a long tour in UK, and Canada and even Mexico. And believe it or not even a place called Texas
and every single place including right here in New Zealand, I have met people who have memorized this book this core on cover to cover
word by word letter by letter in its entirety, from mouth to ear, mouth to ear.
How many of you here in this room have actually met a person know a person or perhaps yourself have totally memorized the entire Quran? Raise your hand.
Well, there you go.
And that's this New Zealand right? This is not Arab country is.
Many people are shocked to find that out. This is a very important subject. Because today there are more than 10 million human beings living on this earth who have totally memorized this book, this Quran this recitation
and over 88% of them
are not Arabs, non Arab speakers, yet they memorize an Arabic language.
Check this out. One and a half billion
people on the earth today have memorized at least portions of the Quran. Exactly in the Arabic language, even if it's Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim, Al hamdu, lillahi, Rabbil alameen and so on. How many of you here have memorized
There you are.
And is there going to be any difference if I recite it right now? And the way you learned it? Wherever you learned it, whatever country you learned it in, even here, whatever, is there going to be a difference? Better not be
you'll have a bunch of Muslims up on stage dragging me out of here.
I mean, it's really a serious subject. When you talk about the Quran to a Muslim. This is not just some version of some King came up with or it's not some version some group came up with or little group of churches said why don't we do our own translation or Jimmy Swaggart is good news for modern man. It's not like that.
In fact, it's the only book on earth that if we lost all the books on Earth, we could bring it back exactly word for word dot four dot dot for jot tittle for tiddle. I think some of you know where I'm pulling that from, straight out of Matthew 517, that not a jot or tittle will be an inwise lesson, talking about the commandments of the Old Testament, this what Jesus said. So
any case, I think I made my point about the Quran.
The recitation, it's God's recitation to human beings. And it does have phrases clearly addressing all human beings. And it's not fair. It is not fair that Muslims have kept this silent from the western people. It isn't fair. Because if somebody entrusts you with a message to deliver to the people, and you don't deliver that message, then you are not, you're not trustworthy. You have not lived up to your responsibilities. It is a fiduciary within Islam, that Muslims must convey this message. Even if it's a single verse from the Quran, they have the obligation to do it. And as long as Muslims did this, they were successful. For over 1000 years Islam reign very successfully.
The education, the science, the medicine, many of the things we take advantage today find the roots in the scientific disciplines within the Islamic empire, going all the way back to Islamic Spain,
to Egypt, Morocco, some of the oldest human
adversities on this earth. still in existence today. And we don't even know about that here in the West. We just we just don't know. It's no clue.
Yet there's a verse
Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim Yeah, you're in Santa Tucker Robert comala Calico comin in widen wahala come in has selja? What? region? They're in one.
Now stop there, because the next one it talks to the believers as well.
A lot, but it says all mankind
dressed to mankind? How could you as Muslims, not kill mankind this message?
and wonder why you're having so much trouble in the world today? Don't you believe that it's a law that's giving you the problems.
And why? because you haven't done what you're supposed to do.
You don't have to convert anybody. In fact, you can a lot. And he wants you to do that law if you have a name. But he did ask you to deliver a message and you didn't do it. These people don't know that. Let me translate it the best I can. Not much in translation, but give it a shot. All Mankind.
Fear your guardian Lord, who created all of you from a single person, Adam, and from him brought forth his mate. And from these two, brought forth many, many people's
men and women.
And in the same recitation of Quran, Chapter 49, or 200, Allah says again, that he's the one who created all of us from a single man from the single brought forth his mate. And from these two, talking about Adam and Eve, he brought forth many tribes and nations and made you different from each other. Why, who in this room, not Muslim knows why God created us different in these tribes. And you don't know that unless you know what Allah said in the Quran.
He said, so you recognize each other.
Not that you have an one upmanship over somebody else, because you're white, and they're black, or you're brown and they're yellow. Or you're tall and they're short.
But because Allah Almighty God deemed it to be that way, but never that there would be any of this racism, something very hated to a lot to the it's called a severe, it is so hated to a law because it's a form of oppression. And Allah hates oppression. And he hates when people are press. And those who are oppressors are called wrongdoers in Arabic, volume. And volume is so hated to a lot. And a lot by the way, a lot of wrongdoing of this nature we do to ourselves, La Ilaha, Illa de su panic.
Army. There are many stories from the Quran, they give us ways to deal with the problems we have today. But even the Muslims are not reading their own book and not applying it. Instead, they're listening to some knucklehead telling them that Islam says this. And Islam says that some even are listening to non Muslim sources tell him your religion says you should go out and kill so many people and you'll go to Paradise and have 70 dancing virgins and stuff like this. What is this?
Show me the page in the Quran where it says this.
This is nonsense.
And certainly the Western media is having a heyday with that kind of stuff. They want to scare people.
I don't know what kind of fun they get out of that. But if you imagine that there's a billion and a half people out there that are staying up all night long coming up with diabolical plots today, terminate the whole world.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
You got a couple of folks out of several 1000 who have bizarre ideas, no doubt about that.
But that doesn't represent the rest of them does. It's the exception, not the rule.
But again, the Muslims are not making this clear to the
general public. They're not.
What's happening is there are Muslims who are standing up and saying the truth, but there's no vehicle to get the message out. Since for instance, September the 11th 2001.
We've had so many of the scholars of Islam, immediately releasing statements sending faxes and putting up websites totally condemning this action, totally.
With the victims, saying that this is not anything to do with Islam and whoever did this. These people have nothing to do with. There's so many people have
Is that true or false?
They have been doing it and doing. But yet the common folk in the non Muslim world don't know that.
Muslims are blaming the media. And in this particular instance, it's not the media's fault. It really isn't. You know why it's not their obligation to go in search for that kind of information, especially in Muslim countries, and publish that, when they have their own folks that have stories for them to publish. It's the responsibility of the Muslims
to take a little bit out of that money that you're chasing after so hard every day, and invest that so that folks can know and understand what's really going on.
And by the way, that's one of the great things about voice of Islam, because they're doing exactly that.
In Singapore, there's another group over there, the Muslim reverts over there or converts to Islam. They're doing essentially the same thing. They're working, it's paying their hours and time, money, resources, trying their best. And it's working, because the government at least recognize it said, Okay, these guys, they're saying something makes sense. They're working, trying to make ways for people to live together, and especially for our youth in the future, regardless of what you think about me.
And it really isn't important, you stop and think about it, because I'm going to be gone tomorrow, I'll be somewhere else inshallah. But regardless what your concept of me or any of the Muslims are today, think about the future of your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren, don't you want them to have a better life than what we have? We always say we want them to have a better life. But does that just mean money? Does it just mean I want them to have a bigger house a bigger car? Is that what we meant? Because if it is, then we're wasting our time anyway. Because you can't control that.
That's not in your hands to control. But for sure, it is in your hands to control the environment, what they're going to have tomorrow to grow up in
really being hard on the Muslims on this one, because even our own youth are very confused, because they don't have a real contact with the true Islam. As long as we have people out here who are distorting this picture. And we have people out here that are maligning the picture, whether they're Muslim or non Muslim, and we have people that are actually taking them away into something totally different.
than you're going to keep having problems. And it's not fair. It's not fair to our children. It's not fair to the other people's children. It's not fair to the future of mankind to continue in this way. And until the Muslims wake up to this fact, it's not going to change. That's a real common sense statement, yes or no.
who disagrees with that? Anybody? And by the way, don't forget I'm from Texas.
You either with us, or you will notice given speech.
I can't believe we've been elected me as governor. But anyhow,
that invoke form, by the way,
the common sense message in Islam, and then I'm done. This is it. Here we go.
ilaha illa La, la in Arabic means no,
no, it negates totally, and absolutely denies. This is a heavy word la in English, or lamb oliphint.
True or false?
You've been awful quiet today.
That's the message there isn't any god worthy to be worshipped. Oh, there are Gods out there. People worshipping these idols worshiping Good luck charms, worship their army, let's say carry around for good luck and people that are looking to their horoscopes and wondering what the stars have in for them today. Go into their medium to read their hand. That's a funny one. Once your hand read how many remember that joke once your hand read you hold it out. They paint it red.
People worship money
yes or no.
There's even one country that on the money itself. You guys are playing around with your coins right.
Changing your coins. You
Well, there is a country. And I've seen their bills. And it says right on the bill, that that's their god it says right on In God we trust.
All others pay cash.
The message the Muslims are supposed to be given to the people is clear that we worship the one only God that created the heavens and earth, the universe in six days.
That's what it says in the Quran, who led the Colossus Malati. What are feasts? I am
Luma stone arch. And then Robert rose up above his throne
is the same guy that created human beings from Adam and Eve is the same God that brought the children of Israel out of Egypt and part of the water so that they could go across
the Red Sea, the same God that ground Pharaoh, the stories in the Quran.
It's the same God
that reinforced Suleyman, Solomon, the same God that created from a woman,
And this baby
spoke from the cradle, this baby actually fulfilled prophecy. And it says in Koran, that he was the Messiah, and Messiah is from the Hebrew myth,
and the Arabic myth.
That's what it says in the Quran. And if you translate it to Coney Greek, that's where you get the word Christos. From which we derive the word Christ, for which the city that we're in right now is named.
It's nothing but a translation. And then interpolation of the word Christos, which is translated from Miss
saya. And by the way, if you want to know what it really means, it means the anointed
because this is the verb. This is a demonstration of the verb right here, see what I'm doing.
It's this wiping anointing because they used to use anointing oil made from olive oil. zaytoun, put their fingers in the oil. And then when they had a king,
for Israel, they would anoint his forehead. And that was the ceremony. And that's what is being referred to in the Old Testament that he will come the Anointed One, the Messiah will come.
And that's exactly who the son of Mary really was. He was that Messiah. And he did come and he did miracles.
And it's not over yet.
Quran tells us real clear, he's not dead.
If you think Jesus is dead, you don't understand Islam. Muslims know full well, he's alive. He's with God. And he will be back in the last day.
There are prophecies for Mohammed making it clear that eventually,
before all things come to pass before the end, that in fact, Muslims and Swanee will join together to fight a common enemy. Who are the nasrani anybody knows what that means? Christians.
That's good news. That's really good news.
I'm happy to hear it.
Having been both
having understood both sides, I like this idea is a great concept.
He did not predict that we would be attacking the Christians and Christians attacking us and blowing up the buildings and it was not he said we would fight together against common enemy. There's more on the subject. But this is enough to give you an idea that Muhammad peace be upon him is showing us something good.
Something really good
as regard those who will ask the questions about salvation in Islam, because now you get curious, well, what does Islam say about salvation? For a Christian, you pretty much have to have Jesus on a cross. You don't have any salvation. That's pretty much what Paul is saying. Paul is telling you that real clear, without Jesus on a cross basically, we don't have anything.
Muslims are saying that you have to have the correct belief that there really isn't one god you have to follow the commandments. That if you don't follow those commandments, you're not really demonstrating any belief in God to start with, especially if you break the first commandment.
This is blasphemy to worship other gods beside God.
Muslims are also saying that you have to have faith and works together.
You have to have faith and works. Because Faith without works, is dead.
Does the Bible say?
Read the book of James, see exactly what it says. At the same time, Muslims believe that your honor that your actions and your deeds will not save you.
Your actions are not going to save you. In fact, your actions are nothing in front of God, they will not save you, those actions are not going to do it.
You have to have the correct belief to go with it. And even with the correct belief, and even with a mountain of good deeds, a person still cannot enter Paradise without Rama, the mercy of a law.
Two examples and then I'll leave the Sunday club of Muhammad peace be upon him said that there would be a man that would be brought on the Day of Judgment. He never had any bad deeds, but he had a mountain of good deeds. And he'd be honest, the angels would ask him would you like to enter Paradise based on your deeds? And he said, I don't have any bad ones. Good. Sure. Oh, my good deeds. They said or the mercy of God. He said, Now just let me enter my good deeds,
then they would bring out Amazon, which means a scale or a balance, and take God's mercy.
God's mercy that he gave you just for one of your eyes. And the weight of that to be set on one side would totally offset all the weight of his mountain of good deeds.
That's how much mercy that I'll ask him. That's just for one night. What about the other one? The fact that and do this sometimes, just hold your hand over your eye and look around you lose depth perception real fast like that? How about what's the mercy to be able to see death? Amazing in it.
And then another example, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him turn to his companions after one of the prayers and he said,
nobody's going to enter Paradise, except by the grace of Almighty God Illa, except by the Rockman of Allah.
have to have the grace. They said even you, he said, Even me.
So your deeds won't cut it either. Does the Bible say that?
Says right in the Bible, that before the Lord, your good works are filthy rags. The only way you're gonna get to Paradise is by the grace, the Salvation comes from God, and that mercy and that grace comes to the one who believes correctly, did the good deeds and then hoped for God's salvation. That's what it says. And by the way, just in case you thought that you don't have to follow the commandments anymore. If you're a Christian, and I'm sure you know, you do have to, but just in case you forgot, it's in Matthew 517. And that's where they said that Jesus said, think not, don't think that I came to destroy the law means the 10 commandments actually means all the commandments, the
law is the tour of the Old Testament, that was a word used, actually, I did not come to destroy the Torah, the law, but rather to fulfill it. And not until all things are passed, everything's accomplished, shall a single Iota be in any ways less than two, and whoever breaks the least commandment, and teaches this, he'll be the least in the next life. But whoever keeps the commandments and teaches that he'll be the highest in the next life. And unless your righteousness exceeds that the Pharisees, you will never enter Paradise Pharisees were the religious leaders of the time. And Jesus is saying they're going to hell.
salvation in Islam, watch this. I was talking with the lady on the TV show today about this subject.
She asked me about hell to describe and she said, it sounds so real. I said, it's real does, we know that there are levels in hell, and it gets worse and worse as you go lower and lower, and it's so horrible, that even the rocks there are rocks in the hell that are fire, the making the fire from these rocks, even these rocks are afraid of the worst place. And I asked her, do you know who's in the worst place in the hell?
Allah says he's going to start the fire of hell with a certain group of people.
How many of you know that it's going to actually be from the Muslims that are going to be there?
Yeah, that's true.
Yes, sir. Believe it or not, the worst part of hell is going to have Muslims in it. That's a teaching isn't that's not something that make you want to join up.
That's what it says. They will be the people who preach the message but didn't follow it.
The scholars, the teachers, the Mufti, the Imam, the one that stands up in front of everybody tells him what's Islam but he doesn't follow it himself. And another
example he gave will be running around trying to collect their bowels and pull them back in because the how horrible it is. And people say, Well, you know, you're the one who told everybody about Islam. You were saying this and that he said, Yeah, but I didn't follow it.
Islam doesn't promise you salvation by a magic saying, you say like a law, the law and you're saved that is not the salvation
unless there's belief in it. commitment to it. If you really believe there's only one God, you want to worship Him, and you're trying your best, you may be a Muslim already in didn't know it. You may be I don't know. But that's not up to Muslims to judge. All judgment comes with Elisa who be a fan of Hackney, there is no better judge than a law.
So I covered one of the areas that most people asked me about a question answer series.
Another thing people will ask you asked me, How did you go to Islam?
And I tell you the same thing I've heard many Muslims say that who also did what I did. They say, God guided me. What can I tell you? Sure. Mine can't. I was training. Firstly, Christianity. Remember? I didn't have wind up here. I don't know. Why am I standing here in Christchurch in New Zealand talking about this? I don't know. This is what God guided me to do.
People will also ask what you think your saved. Muslims don't think it like it that way that hey, I just said the magic word. I'm good to go. The matter what I did, I'm forgiven. We don't have that. That is not our attitude. Have you thought that was our attitude? It isn't?
In really, I don't think that anybody who's responsible in their religion would think that anyway, I don't think any religious teaching something like that.
Oh, you get a few evangelists types who go out and say a lot of crazy stuff. We even have a few of our own idiots out here saying things but we know who they are.
For us, as Muslims, we constantly ask God's mercy are constantly turning to him for forgiveness.
And I think all of us Muslims need to do that right now to ask God to forgive us for not doing a better job in conveying the message to the people. Because it's becoming so clear, it's crystal clear to me anyway. That one of the biggest problems Muslims suffer from around the world is Allah is not happy with us.
He's not happy with us at all. Because we have not done the job. We were entrusted with a simple job, a real easy thing can be
Just recite it. If the people don't want it, that's fine, you did your job.
And the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said something amazing. He said the last day is not going to come until Islam has entered every house on this earth, whether it's made from the fur of animals, or out of the stones and rocks.
Doesn't mean they'll all be Muslim, but it will get the message we'll get there. It's amazing in it.
You want to know what's amazing, you know, I'm talking about do
you want to know what's amazing?
That has happened already.
But it wasn't Muslims that put it in every house was it? It was cnn Fox network?
Who put the message out there Islam is the only thing you've got left now Muslims is districting out people's perception. And let's start with ourselves. What do you think? Can we do that? But start with yourself.
And that's when you can overcome a stigma real easy, just that people see the real life of a true Muslim. And then they'll have no doubt. But as long as you continue to lead people in the dark, it'll always be the same or worse. Let's work together.
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Continue to do this. And it's your generation that's responsible right now for what's going on. Forget about what happened in Turkey in 1922. Forget about it. It's its history.
Forget about what happened back in the days of the fitna between the Shia thing and Ollie and forget about that. That's not getting us anywhere today. Look to the one thing that's the most important of all, and one quote to you from second Bukhari, what the prophet peace be upon him said, Whoever says La Ilaha Illa, Allah,
whoever says, There's no God to worship except Allah. And Muhammad is His Messenger, and establishes the prayer and pays This
is a Muslim.
That's what it says. Now, after that, it's up to them to disprove what they said. But as long as that's what we say, then we'll be alright. Let's work together on that subject. And now for our general audience for the rest of us so you can better understand what I'm saying.
I'm asking the Muslims to take responsibility for something.
And to do a good job to make clear to all their Muslim neighbors, their non Muslim neighbors, and open up, open up the mosques and open up their houses and whatever to do what we did here tonight, who can sit together? Now of course, I'm doing all the talk and you don't have a chance to ask questions, you don't have a chance to give any feedback. But when you with your friends and Muslim friends, you'll have a chance to ask questions. Sit with him. I know ladies like to ask the women a lot of questions. Want to know why you guys get a dress like this? The funny part about it is
all women cover.
All women cover,
according to what they consider needs to be covered.
Well, the difference is the Muslim women are following what Allah has ordered them to cover. That's the difference. It's not unlike the pictures you see of the women of the time of Jesus, or Solomon, or David, or Abraham, you see the pictures of their dress. Even when you see a nun today walk down the street, even if you're not Catholic, you see, or you say Hello, sister, how are you today? You know, you don't say why do you dress like that?
Then come in your mind does.
perceptive is a perception that we have is largely based on the environment we grew up in. Prophet Muhammad said an amazing thing. He said that every single child is already born in the perfect state of a relationship with Almighty God.
They're already in surrender, submission, obedience, sincerity and peace with God every baby is in that state. How many of you have used this innocent as a newborn? Baby? You've used that, haven't you? Yeah, you know what the expression is? Yes. Only he said it with one word, everything I just said he said it in one word. It's loud. It's loud. Every baby is born in Islam.
On the natural inclination, or fitrah, this word in Arabic, he said they're all born on the fitrah of Islam.
But it's their parents that will raise them up to become any other religion.
He also made it clear that if any baby dies, they go to Paradise, regardless of the religion or lack of it, of the parents.
He also made it clear that if anybody from the time of Adam, until the last days, if they want to submit to God in that state of being that baby like beautiful relationship, surrendering to God,
they also would die in the same way.
Doctor garden judge? Certainly that's the condition of true Islam. So now I'll ask you the question.
Based on the interpretation that I gave to the Arabic word, Islam, doesn't it make common sense?
For you to think about?
And I'll close with a little prayer. And if you don't like it, don't say Amen. And if you do like it, you can say man up to you.
But it's my prayer and I'm praying for the Muslims to be guided by a law. And I'm praying for the non Muslims to be guided by whatever name they give God, I'm not asking them to even change anything, but by whoever you think God's name is, for him to do the same thing to give guidance to prove to guide us to the straight path to guide us in a way that we can live together in peace. Amin
salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa
One of the things about Islam, Islam is very inclusive. To the extent that there's hardly anything you're going to think of that Islam has not covered. You want to know anything about the life of the human being from the time they're born to the time they die from the time that they wake up to the time they go to bed, every aspect of a life is covered, including sitting in Christchurch,
on a stage trying to answer questions
that's covered in Islam, because in Islam, it's a directive to all of us that when you don't know the answer, you must say, I don't know. You are not allowed to guess. I don't know is considered a correct answer.
Now in the Islamic universities, they won't accept that.
But Allah will accept that the Jew don't know. And that is a correct answer. So the other thing is if you lie, this is worse than you can possibly imagine for a person to knowingly fabricate, prevaricate
or misrepresent the truth, or even leave it out intentionally. To give you the wrong idea. Allah says in the Quran, yeah, you live in Amanullah, Taka lava kulu, Colin sadita are you who believe,
and always speak the truth. Additionally, he tells us also in the Quran, that if you're a believer, you have to say the truth, even if it's against yourself.
We do not have in Islam, this right to remain silent business like we do in the United States. If you are guilty, and you're brought forth in Islamic court, then you should admit your guilt. Because God knows you're guilty anyway. And lying to the people won't gain you anything at all with the law. It's not a concept that we're real familiar with in the West, but it is the Islamic concept.
So having stated that, I'll endeavor to try to tell the truth as much as I know and what I don't know, I'm gonna have to say I don't know.
But what we can do is try to find an answer for your question. And that's how you can stay in touch with us through our websites into our email, ask [email protected]
The first question is presented here is a question that says is john 316, a lie?
is in the English translation. What a lot told us about the Bible, that the original Bible came from Almighty God.
The original words were also recited to previous prophets.
And each of them had things that were for their particular time and their peoples. But the last revelation came for all people in all times in all places.
That would be the only differences. But God never was a man.
And God never was the son of man.
How many people disagree with what I just said.
I wasn't quoting from Islam, I was quoting from the Bible with book numbers.
It says real clear in chapter 23, verse 19, God is not a man
that he should sin. or air depends there's different translations use a different verb. But it says God is not a man. And that continues and said, and he's not the Son of man.
That's what I had reference to. So in any case, the point is, within the Bible itself, you're going to find
some very interesting comparisons, if you consider them to be contradictions, and that's up to you. But I'm not going to give you a hard time about your Bible.
I will tell you that the Quran says that if this were from other than the law, you would find within it many contradictions. There's a challenge for you right there. But before you try to contradict something, be sure you're reading it in Arabic.
Because real easy to show your contract Oh, I'm always going over these translations and finding many things that are problematic very much.
Or as the Muslim you have any Arabs with us that know the Arabic language, raise your hand. You know that Arabic? classical Arabic. You're ready. Give me one word in English. For Dean
can do it. One word? No, there's no one barraba
what the reboot hoonah. You know, you don't want to try to translate that one.
Another question came
same person they asked, Can you elaborate on how Allah can be both just and merciful, are all merciful? And what they meant by just was the word justice. Okay not as in lacking anything, because then you might say, well, that's just this, but it's not the mean. To be just absolutely fair, Allah has both names. He has 99 characteristics mentioned in Islam, and one of them is our man,
which is the All Merciful or compassionate or most gracious, there are many ways that we try to but it none of these words really, in English, bring forth what rahama really means. In fact, he doubles it up because it gives you another word similar from the same root. Rahim. Allah man Rahim. And it's so if you know the words, it's like, oh, wow, it's fantastic.
And great digressing a moment. But I want to share this with the Muslims to give them a little benefit to for those who don't know, the Arabic. The rest of the verse that I stopped on from Sir aneesa continues by saying that fear your Lord, by whom you demand your mutual rights, and do not cut the ties of the womb, that sort of says, but in Arabic, it says
Or hum, what is our hum?
It's the womb in uterus, that uterus is so clinical, isn't it. But in Arabic, it's beautiful, because it's saying that the place where you're conceived inside of your mother is called the place of mercy, the mercy seat, this is where you are, can see this place of mercy within your mother. So you start out in God's mercy and His grace, exactly what it says, is so beautiful. When you know the Arabic
How can God be just and merciful at the same time? Well, he's totally fair. But look at how he's fair and see if you like it. You're a human. We're all human in this room, I guess, except for the gym that I don't see. But in any case,
this is what he's making clear to you that if you do a bad deed, he is only going to record one bad deed for you.
At the same time, if you do a good deed, he's recording 10
or 70, or 707,000, or as much as he likes for you. And he considers that fair, do you who would like to throw that away and say, Nana, just give me one.
And when he measures it is according to your intention, because it's very clear in the amount of Binya, this is the saying of Mohammed, peace be upon him that every action is going to be regarded by the intention.
Some people don't have much of an intention when they do something, it works out good. But they don't have much intention on it.
Others tried really hard, they had a good intention, but it just didn't work out. But he's still going to regard their what the action based on this intention. So that's how you can get higher and higher and higher. So if you do a bad deed, though, you're only going to get one but if you do good deeds is could be worth a lot to you an awful lot. And also, he's merciful, so merciful it to the extent that if you really meant well, you believer you tried, that could count for so much, and wipe away so much sin. And if you say well, I don't think that's fair.
Maybe you don't have as much sin as that.
But for all of the Muslims, we like that idea. But he's fair in that he never oppresses the fact that he's generous with somebody doesn't mean he's not fair, because he's going to treat everybody fair in that he will give and give and give as much as he likes to those whom he deems worthy. But he never oppresses. And this is a good way to explain it. I believe.
That's a good question. That was somebody thinking that said that. I like that. It says if you do the fasting, but you don't wear the scarf, is it acceptable?
I think that's a Muslim asking this question.
I want to ask you, it's rhetorical so the sister wrote it. Don't Don't. Don't say anything. Just think about this.
Is it acceptable that you do this a lot, but you don't wear the hijab during the salon?
I think you've got your answer. That was most of them asking that one they know what I meant.
Next question, how could the earth have been created in six days?
When the same rocks and fossils took billions of years to form
I read it in Arabic.
It says, Hola, hola, sumati or sumati? Well, our V said that I am.
I am is the plural of young.
And the word young is also Hebrew.
How many of you heard a Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement? That's Hebrew
yamo. qiyamah is the Arabic The day of standing literally means the day standing or the Day of Resurrection, Muslims believe in resurrection. All will be everybody will be resurrected.
The word yom in the Semitic languages means day seminar does it as it is in English. But you might think that the word day only means 24 hours. How many of you think the word day only means 24? hours? That's all it means? How many think that?
You thought they meant 24 hours? Let me ask you a question. You speak English? Did you ever hear anybody say back in my day? Which day? Do you think they meant?
That they will come? Or you're gonna ruin the day that? You see when they say it like that? What do they mean? They mean a period of time, don't they?
It's very clear the word de is also used as a period of time. This has been explained by the Hebrew scholars Long, long ago, even before even before Muhammad peace be upon him ever came on the scene. That word was well explained to mean what period of time could be anything because as it says, In the Quran, and Christians know this as well, that a day with Almighty God could be whatever he says it, it could be 1000 years. Yes. It's in the Quran.
So how long is the day to you? and I were saying 24 hours. But who told us to think like that.
I got news for you, Jesus peace be upon him never said a day is 24 hours? Because they didn't divide it up.
I don't know. And guess what? I don't care.
Oh, no, it's here. I know, those rocks are there, you say they took a long time. And somebody else said it's a day still is still a rock and still hurt you if you step by under somebody hit you with it. So don't really matter.
But it's interesting, because the person who's asking, obviously, is being challenged or challenging themselves, maybe to try to better understand what does this all mean. And I do have a solution for you, I think that will help you. And that's let us go to scientists. Let us go to people that hold PhDs. In these subjects, especially now you're going to be talking about the structure of the earth. So let's go to those who are familiar with that and ask them, How is the earth built? How is it formed? And then let us look to the Quran and see if there's agreement or disagreement with what we know today. And in fact, if you go to the books that are being used in academia right now, on the
subject, you're going to be very surprised to discover that 1400 years ago, a lot of describe things in the Quran we just found out in the last couple of decades.
For instance, the deep roots of the mountain range that are in Europe, that reached down hundreds of miles into the ground, are spelled out real clear in the beginning of June, when it says our Tad, the plural of tent pegs, the stake going down into the ground. It says that these mountains are these deep roots just like that they only found that out recently.
And we want to talk about human beings. What about how we're created, and how we started out and it's spelled out in the Quran again, and things that you can only know under a microscope, nobody can tell you, except that they've had a microscope or else divine revelation 1400 years ago, the Quran described the moment of conception and what you look like at the moment, the zygote attaches itself to the wall of our home, though the ROM in there, which is the uterus describes it as a lot. Then it describes it as the shape of it going through the tube lump,
in shape and out of shape. All of the stages of the trimesters by trimester are mentioned in the Quran. Before we even knew what that was
about talk about the universe and how it's working and what things are going on that we're only finding out right now with the Hubble telescope and you find it in the Quran. Check it out, even to the extent that it tells you in
A cron that people are never going to go outside of Earth's atmosphere until they have a great and mighty power to do so. It would be super fun chapter 55 verse 33, look it up. You will owe you assembly a mankind and Jim tried to go outside of Earth's atmosphere go try, but you will never do it. It'll be done, except by great and mighty authority or power. And by the way, when they put those Rocket Ships into outer space,
do you know what kind of power it takes to get them up there? What kind of power does it take to get your car to go up the hill? What kind of power does it take to go up a mountain? Yeah, ask yourself, I got four wheel drive, I'm gonna try to get up to up a mountain. And I'm paying for this gas, this fuel to get up there. It's costing me right? What is it now? $1 55 a liter? Is that what you're paying?
Yes, that's pretty good deal then.
It is when you consider that NASA
there's an even measure their fuel by the gallons or the leaders, they measure it by the ton. They talk to you in terms of how many hundreds of tons of fuel it takes to lift that rocket ship up there to put those satellites out there so that CNN and Fox network can tell you what terrorists Muslims are.
And you pay for it.
Question we need Islamic banking in New Zealand? How can we establish it?
My friend, you have just
labeled one of the clear reasons why Western mentality does not want to hear about Islam.
That's the truth. How many of you know Islamic banking does not permit usury or interest.
Whoops. And the Bible says neither a borrower borrower nor a lender be. It doesn't mean don't lend people your coat or your clothes or your your car or things like that know what it means is don't charge people for the use of money because that's what Jesus drove the people out of the temple for doing that very thing, yes or no.
The very thing that's so forbidden in Islam allowed declares war. And he says be on be on alert from the war from your Lord and from the Prophet peace be upon him. If you're going to deal in this anymore. Islamic banking means that you have to have a way that the banker invest along with you. And then he makes a profit if you make a profit, but he makes a loss if you make a loss. And they're not too many bankers want to do that are there? Huh? No.
And the answer that I have for you is I have no clue. But by the way, there are a whole lot of things we need to work on first. And you don't really need to buy a house right now we got a lot of bigger problems to worry about. We got Muslims and non Muslims around the world dying, innocent people are dying.
And you're worried about buying a house? Shame on you.
It says what exactly does it say in the Quran about the women's dress? Why does Allah order it? And can you translate this things? That's probably a Muslim asking the question, first of all, let me tell you where it is. Then you go read it in Arabic yourself and see chapter 24, verse 31, Chapter 33, verse 59, are both very clear on that subject. When I write it down, I'll say it again. So on a nude,
but read chapter 24, with verse 30, read verse 31st, because it tells the men about their obligation, then the women in their obligation, then also when you're reading chapter 33, which is sir,
and verse 59, it starts out Yeah, you and Nabil, and Allah is saying, Oh, my Prophet,
tell your wives, tell your daughters, until the believing women that whenever they go out, they need to draw their job over themselves, and read it for yourself. And if you want to know why did God ordered that for the women?
The answer is in a question. Why did God create a tree in paradise?
And put fruit on it and then ask Adam and Eve not to eat it? When you understand the why behind that you'll understand the why to every other question you'll come up with.
Okay, this is a person who has asked me a question, which proves that I did not completely defined the word a law, as I should have. When I was doing the etymology, I got off on my subject and I left out part of it, which I ordinarily do, and you are perfectly correct in in bringing my attention to it. The word a law
and the word God have another point where they become dis similar. The word God you can always put an S on it and it becomes
You can also put e SS becomes goddess female.
This cannot be done with the word Allah because it is it a perfected state.
It does not have gender
nor can it be made plural.
Immediately a critic especially if the North American Arabic language to say no wait a minute I read the Quran and it said right there are many places God says we our and us. Yes or no. not new. does the law say nothing? Yeah, it says it said we that's we in urban kitchen. Oh, yeah. And hello? Yeah. The nurse at the end of the word holla means we created yes or no. Yeah, it's we is in the
US is in there an hour isn't there?
yet. I just got to say it can't be maidpro. What does it mean?
If you're not Arab? Ask yourself what in the world does that mean? And this is serious. This is not just a joke. I'm not just putting words. It is serious. means you have to understand something. Hmm. Because the same thing is true of the word Allah Houma. Yes. Also plural.
It's like the word in Hebrew Elohim, which is also plural. In the Old Testament, he clearly says God is one Elohim. But
even the New Testament says real clear God is one. What is the greatest commandment?
They're asking Jesus, Mark 1229. And he responds back and tells them to know Israel, the Lord your God is One Lord. One very clear.
How do you explain this reference to the plural usage? Well, it's the Royal wing, the Royal our, the Royal us. That's all it is just like a king or a queen, who makes any type of Proclamation. We declare the following. They always start out with a word we and it means myself. Just like when you use the verb to be you say this is?
Because it's one this is that is he is she is? Because they're one, when it's a group more than one. These are those are, they are, except when you speak to someone direct. If I speak to you directly, I say you are my friend.
And when I refer to myself, I say I am I don't say I is, and I don't say you will see that, well, some parts of Brooklyn. But
But seriously, that's all it is. It's referenced to the Royal pneus of Almighty God, just as it is, when it says he in the Koran or him. It does not mean gender, it doesn't mean that God is an atomically, comparing himself to a man, because God is way above and beyond anything like that. He is not male, nor is he female. And he makes it real clear. And by the way, he also has no
as I said, no gender there's also no genealogy. God has no descendancy doesn't come from some other gods, and nor does he have other gods underneath him. He's God alone. The status of Jesus, you didn't ask me about that. But the status of Jesus in Islam is not that He is a God, not that he's the son of God, not that he's one in a triangle, but rather that he is a very high, high, high positioned prophet.
He is a miracle. Without a doubt, he is created without a father and you don't there's no other case in history. In such a with such a circumstance. However, have you ever considered before you start to worship Jesus because of that? Have you considered the creation of Eve, she had no mother?
Well, you don't worship her.
And Adam had no mother or father, but you don't worship Him.
Yet we say about them, peace be upon them because they are very mighty and wonderful. And by the way, that the Quran says that Mary is the best of the women he created. That's what Allah says. So
I kind of branched off on that because you asked me a good question. I thought I should jump into some of those. That was the difference between the Quran Majeed and Quran green. Majeed? I think our word majestic probably comes from the word Majeed has a very similar meaning. And Kareem means a glorious, very glorious or kinda, I don't want to say generous because that's, Kareem also, but this is more like
I think a Muslim probably is that one I don't know. Next, how do we learn? Learn?
How do we know? Oh, how did we know that alone that Muhammad did make up the
Well, if he made it up, then you'd have to ask yourself a question that was answered by his wife immediately when he came back because he asked his own wife because he was very shocked at the encounter with the angel. By the way. When he came to his wife, he didn't tell her what happened right away. He just said, cover me up, cover me up. And they were saying what's the matter what happened? And finally he tells her What happened? And she says, You've never told the lie in your life.
Okay, why would you start now at the age of 14 start to lie.
And you've always tried to help bring the families together to join people together. And he never broke any trust. He was known by a nickname given to him by the people of his time as what translates to English the spirit of truth. He was called the spirit of truth, a static, yes or no.
I mean, the trustworthy, most trustworthy, and the one who is the mighty counselor of bringing families together. He was the one who comforted the families and all these things he was called, long before he was ever called the this Prophethood by law. And by the way, I think those who have studied the gospel know exactly where to find that, in the Gospel of john, that he was called those things by Jesus that he would come and he would be known as the spirit of truth. He would be the Comforter, and it's called unkown, a Greek pair of Fritos. And a pair of Fritos in the clinic, Greek, there's a letter difference, but when you move that letter, you'll find that it says the
praised one. Exactly in what how do you say praise one in Arabic.
And that's what it says in chapter 61 of the Quran. It says that Jesus predicted the coming of Muhammad and his name would be Othman.
Good point to bring up good stuff. What's the difference in the Quran and the Bible.
The Quran still exists in its original format, completely and is recited as it was revealed. The Bible is no longer recited that way in its original format, or it used to be I have books on the subject by Jewish scholars. There's a great one, it's easy to read in English by
visit professor, I believe as well, it would be Richard Elliot Friedman. It's called who wrote the Bible. And you can learn a lot from he's talking only about the Old Testament, by the way. It's very, very interesting. And it helped me a lot to understand better. What happened to the original Bible? And who actually tried to bring it back was uzair or Islam.
Next one, it said why Muslims
something Christians, Jesus and vice versa.
I can't I don't know what that word is. Why Muslims hate
Christians, and Jews and vice versa. Okay. Do the Christians in here all hate Muslims? I don't think so. You wouldn't come tonight.
That'd be a dumb thing to do with the night neons let's go out and be with the people we hate.
So I don't think it's a valid statement. And the question I can think of questions got a problem you
do, do the Muslims here hate all the Christians?
We hate all the Jews as a couple you're upset with but
but be honest, what now? Here's, I'm dumb. I'll admit, I'm dumb. I thought I knew stuff. When I got to Islam. I found out how much I didn't know about anything. I had no, I didn't know any geography. And I didn't know any world political history whatsoever.
And when I went to these countries and sat there and listened, I went
How did I miss all of this?
But for sure. One of my big education's came in New York City. I'm the delegate to the United Nations World Peace summit for religious leaders. And when I was there with the rabbis, they sat there and educated me real quick to something I had no clue about.
The rabbi's in New York told me on no uncertain terms that what is going on now in Palestine is not in accordance with the teaching of their book and
They hate what's happening to the Muslims. They're the Arabs there. And they said it is oppression. And it's wrong. That's what they said to me.
They made that crystal clear. And they said, We hope that you don't think that about us. And I said, I don't have an opinion on anything. You know, you guys are enlightening me to things that I didn't know. They started to bring the proof and evidences from their books, and they're saying this is wrong. It's wrong to go in and do these things. This is not the time. This is not the way this is not the place. This is inappropriate. They use those words themselves. Now, on the other side of the coin, I have met Muslims, who, in Arab countries, were saying some very horrible things against the Jews and Americans, but not Christians. They didn't say Christians, they said against all the
Americans, because they see America as being a dominant world power that's trying to control everything, they don't realize that we're just trying to, you know, help.
Like we help the Indians in the United States, but people help the Maori or on British Columbia help folks or just help them
help get some control over those wild birds that were going everywhere. And all those big trees isn't. Bring over a few What is it? Dogs, some cats and some rabbits, and the next thing you know, goodbye, landscape. Yeah, yep. You
know, help me boy. Yeah.
Good questions on you guys. You guys are sharp.
Do you think that fundamentalism in Islam is a response and a mechanism to modernity?
Okay, first of all, fundamentalism is something that's used with reference to Christianity and Islam. It's very inappropriate to use English words, referring to the to the Christian religion and try to bring that over to Islam. Because it doesn't work. It just doesn't work.
This like talking about revivalism in Islam or something like that it doesn't work. You have to understand the word Islam is ongoing. It always means the same thing, submit to God. How could you say, well, that's a fundamental submission to God, whereas this is a non fundamental submission to God. And what about a secular submission to God and what you're going, what are you talking about? You either submit to God or you don't.
Islam doesn't have this, this concept of secularism within it, if you believe in God, and you're trying to do what he wants you to do, that's it, there you are. And you can still be an American and be a Muslim.
It's possible, you can still be a Muslim and live here, you can be a Muslim and live in a place. That doesn't change your political views don't become a democrat or republican or something like that. That doesn't make sense.
And when people use those kind of terms, maybe they're translating something from Arabic to say this, maybe they're just trying to put another concept on your head.
But what people are doing, it's fanatical, if you want to talk about that these are fanatical actions. It's not fanatical Islam.
What would really the most fanatical Islam is that there could be would be a Sufi.
If you stop and think about it, that's all it could be a real fanatical Muslim, would have to be a Sufi who just sits there, you know, in a corner somewhere, just worshiping Allah all day long and doesn't eat and he doesn't sleep, he just keeps buying a brand and sitting in a car. I don't think anybody's afraid of that guy.
That would be an extremist.
But what's happened is that there are people who are doing bad things and you're trying to give a label to it and incorporate Islam with it.
Like saying a good Christian extremist that blows up people what, he doesn't do that, that doesn't work. So some of the terms that people are using,
negate the statement.
And as far as modernity, Islam is more modern than than any other way of life because it always allows and encourages and exhorts even the Muslims, to look to their surroundings, to their circumstances to the nature and use it to the best way. That's the commandment of Allah.
Most of us in the West were ignorant to the fact that most of the science we have today, the way that we understand it in a way we use it came from Muslim scholars.
There will be those who will immediately say No way, I don't want to believe that. Okay, that's cool. But it doesn't change the fact.
But we know in medicine today, if you really want to study it, go back in
Look, you'll find comes from a very important book that was written by the Muslim scholars in Muslim Spain about six 700 years ago. It's not a joke. That's fact,
operations even on the brain were done back then. There are many, many disciplines that we find that we're using today that you can go back and look, what's the problem is the Muslims themselves have lost touch with this, and don't realize their own legacy. And unfortunately, that cripples the rest of us from being able to continue it. But just to give you one example, before I leave the subject,
at the time when Europe was considered to be in the dark ages, during the time of the black plague,
that was a horrible time for Europe, at that exact same time is when Spain was in its heyday. And they used to send their students, the children from Europe, to go to Spain to learn from the big universities there. And when the children came back, by the way, side note,
when they came, even if they had the diseases that never spread amongst the Muslims ever, it was almost like magic. And it made the Muslims investigate to find out what was causing this. And this is when hygiene became clear in the European countries to understand what hygiene was and how important it was. Because the reason for this spread of these plagues was because there was no hygiene amongst those European people.
But the Muslims always had it a wash five times a day minimum, to do their prayers.
And another rule in Islam is if there is a plague, you're not allowed to leave nor enter the area. That was 1400 years ago that was stated. So as soon as the people carried this teaching back to Europe, the thing ended.
If you doubt what I said, just yo check it out. The other thing is when they came back home, the parents were real proud of the fact that they could say Arabic words. Like what law he
asked the question about Shiites and Sunnis the difference of conflicts, etc. Different groups. And also the question I read in books, Muhammad was a man of war, and concern conquered lands in order to assassination. Is that true? And you have a response to this?
First of all, there are many different groups of people calling themselves Muslims. Is that true?
Yeah. And each one that has the label on it, especially if they insist on that label is running the risk of going to hell.
That's what the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said 1400 years ago, he said, as the Jews and Christians divided up into 71, or 72 groups, meaning in Arabic idiom, it just means as one group divides up another divides even more, and the Muslims will divide even more than that. And he used the word 73. And he's saying here, no matter how much they divide, Muslims will always divide more. And all of them will be in Hellfire,
except for the ones who are on the original Koran, and the teachings of Muhammad. That's what he said. So for the benefit of those who adhere to their group names, regardless of what it might be, you're running that risk, because some time your ideology will be accepted, or for what one man said, regardless of how saintly you think he was, you're taking what a man said, as opposed to what God said. And that is a very serious problem. So again, the writer here the asking me has nailed a very important note to the wall for you, and don't divide up. Because that division is your disruption here in this life, and in the next life as well. The last one that he had referenced to
about Muhammad was a man of war, and he conquered lands. And he ordered assassinations. Is that true or false? It's true.
He engaged in war Yes or no? Yes. And they conquered lands. Yes. He ordered people to be assassinated. Sure did.
Would you like you know, the circumstances are you just want to take that and run with it.
Because you can take things and say them, you can say them about people. You can even go to the Bible and say things about Jesus in a way that that I won't accept for you to say it as a Muslim, I will not accept for you to say it. But it's by the way that you present a question.
They engaged in war.
Well known. The battles are well documented exactly how they came about. But it's also known that the Muslims were forbidden to ever engage in any war until the order came from a law and then it had these certain conditions. It had these rulings that came with it limitations that even in the Geneva Convention
You don't find something as amazing as what is said in the Quran itself.
Now, probably you don't want to hear that part. So if you want to run away before I give you the answer, go ahead. Because it's very clear that for 13 years, the Muslims suffered atrocities at the hands of their persecutors in Mecca.
their own families, their own people hated the fact that the Muslims were worshiping one God, that was the bone of contention. Anything else they could have accepted? They even said it if you'll just worship our God for one year, you know, we'll give you anything you want. And they offered Muhammad many things you want women will give you women? And he said no. So for the benefit of those who said, Oh, he's a womanizer, well, then why didn't he accept that.
And they offered him wealth. And he didn't accept that. And they offered him a high position, he could be a ruler or a governor for them. And he didn't refuse that. He said, Well never stop worshipping God without partners. And that was what made those pagans upset, because they wanted to have the multiplicity of deity. That was what the real bone of contention was about. And then they began torturing the Muslims. They even killed them. The first martyr for Islam was a woman. And she was killed in the most horrible way that doesn't even need to be described here tonight, you can't believe what they did to this poor woman, then her husband, and they did it in front of their son.
And the son was also tortured.
And what was it about because they stopped torturing him as soon as he said, Okay, our worship gods are okay, I'll accept that. All it say that mom's not a prophet, or whatever it was. Soon as he did that, they let him go. And he's one that told the story. So that was the only bone of contention.
They put sanctions against the Muslims and grow them off their own property out of their own houses that are their own land. They stole their properties. They killed them, abused them, raped the women and put them out in the desert to die. And they lived out there for two years. Still, they had no order from a law to go back and fight and they didn't find the group of people came from a place called yathrib. And offered them sanctions there said come to us and we'll be a place that you can come and you'll be all right, and we'll protect you.
And they went, it became renamed as Medina which means city. And that's where Muhammad peace be upon him and his companions returned to that area. And the people there became helpers to them. They're called answer, which means helpers. And then while they were in Medina, they wanted to make hygiene, which is the pilgrimage and they went back home to do it because you have to go to Mecca to do it. And then how do you go to Hajj Do you go with swords to hedge you go riding in on your horses if you have any horses with you don't go riding him out on on your big mountain come in here with the your regalia and all that, because then when you go for Hi, Joanie, wearing two towels, the true false.
Two towels, he mentioned a guy wearing 2000, he walks three or 400 miles.
And when he gets there, and there were maybe a couple 1000
I don't know the exact number now. But they were turned away by those same people again, and they said, All we want to do is just go in front of the car, and just go around and do the ceremonies that Abraham used to do. We just want to do that. They said no, and and drove them back. They said, Come back next year. And when they went back next year, the people didn't uphold their agreement.
And again, they were turned back.
And there's details about this is well chronicled the details of what happened in those events. But the prophet peace be upon him said we got to go back. They even signed an agreement with the people that view this, let us come next year. And they said, Okay, here's the agreement we want. We want that give us any of the people that you have, that are captives.
Okay, take them. Plus, we want to keep all of the captains we have from you.
Yes or no? Yeah. And they did in even a lopsided deal like that. And they signed it agreed to it, and they come back, they still didn't honor and wouldn't let them come and do the Hajj.
And then finally, you find the verses in the Quran and let's read it in the correct order. chapter two, verse 107, at 189. I'm going to start there instead of where most people go in verse 191. Because it said yes, a Luna aka, they're asking you Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam about the moons and tell them the sighting of these moons is so they know how to do the highest because it's referring to height. And it's by the way, every time this same subject comes up about combat, you'll see it always has to do with hydrogen. Right before that. Go check. Verse 36. In chapter nine, search elbow, you'll find the same condition again, we
And it talks about Hodge, and talks about that because of what happened. This is a specific incident. It tells you clearly. And it says that then it goes on to the subject about after this is about entering their doors of the house by going in the back door. Is that better because they had a superstition about it? And again, the answer's no, go into houses by proper doors, piety, piousness righteousness with the law is not about how you enter your houses, but it's what's in your heart. Then the next question that people had asked about is when are we going to get to fight for our rights, this was implied by the answer that comes, that tells them that they can now they can fight
and it tells them, the word in Arabic for combat is kitao. And it was used like that kitao. And it says that they can engage in it, and fight them where they fight you and turn them out from where they turned you out.
And it's very clear that it's talking about their own place that they've been driven out of, and by whom is these pagan idolaters.
And it tells you, if they stop, you have to stop.
Then it goes on and says and kill them, if they're killing you, that this killing is better than the terrorism
that these people are spreading. So this is very relative to today's situation, we see that Islam is the enemy to terrorism. And then it continues again, and it says, but if they stop, you have to stop otherwise you become the transgressor and barely allowed is not love the transgressors. So it makes it clear, it makes it very clear that the rules that were set forth for war in Islam predated the Geneva Convention by 1400 years, still better, because Muslims in a real war with real Muslims not talking about some wild band of thieves and steal a car and go out here and hold up a place we're not done. But that's forget that stuff. But it's very clear that when there is this war, like
Muhammad peace be upon him and his followers engaged in it was not to convert people, because it's very clear in the Koran that they cannot convert people. It's very clear, but it is so that people have the right to have their religion, the many wars that a lot of people don't know this, but Muslims also fought so that Christians and Jews could have their right to worship. And that's also again in Muslim Spain, go back and read about it. That was the Muslims who defended them.
It may be something to do with the monotheism. I can't answer that. I don't know why God has the things the way he does. But certainly, there's always been the opportunity for Jews and Christians to live together in peace and harmony, because the law says that he does not forbid you to live in peace and harmony with these people that are not driving you out of your land or not killing you.
But even when you have captives, you're not allowed to torture them.
You're not allowed to
do the things that we see is being done every day. You can't hold people and not give them the opportunity of any kind of defense, you're not allowed to do that. In Islam. It's very clear.
So these things that we're seeing that are happening today on both sides don't represent Islam. They don't represent Christianity either.
But it's not right for the Muslims today to accuse all Christians of being guilty about what some people did. Nor is it right, the other way around. Make sense, but read stuff in its entirety don't read part of something. Now as far as the part of conquering lands, the lands were turned over to the Muslim state by the new people themselves, because when Islam spread, the people accepted Islam give you the best example is Egypt. When the Egyptians accepted Islam, there were there was no big fighting going on or anything like that. The Egyptians accepted Islam because they liked it. Most of them were Christian. They accepted Islam, tore down their churches and rebuilt, facing the direction
of the Kaaba in Mecca. Using the same materials and the proof I've seen it a minion there and seeing those ancient materials are still standing. And if you go to Allah czar University, the woman section of the mosque there has these huge pillars and up at the top, it still has the cross on them, they had rubbed it out, but you can still see the via very vague shape of it on there. And also it must be the armor class, which is there in Egypt. In one section that they were doing some construction on they even showed me and pointed to it and I use our cameras to photograph but they said the Christians of the time, wanted to rebuild their churches as mosques and they did
So that's what really happened.
So yes they conquer you would say that's conquering, but you that's not going in and chopping people's heads off if they don't say except Islam. Never once did that such a thing happen ever read the real history of Islam? You see that's never good happened not one time Did they ever say either except that there's only one God, I'm gonna cut your head off. However, I encourage you to go to the Encyclopedia Britannica, World Book encyclopedia,
go to Encyclopedia Americana any of them and look up the word crusades and see what happened. Then look up the word Inquisition and see what happened.
During the Spanish Inquisition, that's exactly what they said, either say God is three, or they tortured the people to death, yes or no.
Even the Vatican in mid side,
I traveled halfway around the world to be with you.
And a lot of people spent a lot of their own hard earned money and time
to put this program together.
And only Allah knows how much sacrificing and how much work it took to be able to get this, this event to take place.
And a lot of you sacrificed your time to come and be with us tonight.
And I just want to express my appreciation to Almighty God, for giving me the opportunity to address you. I hope what I said didn't misguide anybody, or hurting anybody. It was my sincere desire, from the time that I left my home, to come here to do nothing more than to share Islam. And yeah, I'm heading toward a commercial again, you're right. But I really hope that there was benefit here tonight. And if there was any good here tonight whatsoever. I'll give all credit to a law. And I'll accept responsibility for my own mistakes, ask a lot of Forgive me, and let me do better next time.
The subject we've been talking about tonight is a very big one. And in one meeting like this, you really can't get very far, not really. But at least we touched some of the topics. And we hope that it will open up dialogue in the future. We hope that the Muslims in your community will pick up where I left off. We hope that they will share this message more with their families and then with their neighbors as well. That's my sincere desire. And I'll close with just a little prayer like I did before and just ask the Lord to guide us, guide us to truth and open our hearts and remove the biasness remove the racism, remove the hatred and replace it with true love for mankind. True love
for God and let alone decide in the final analysis.
Till next time, peace Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah.