Yasir Qadhi – The Role of Hawa (AS)Eve in eating from the Forbidden Tree

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			set on while they come Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh horrid hamdulillah Haytham Alhamdulillah Haitham Al
Hamdulillah. We began by praising Allah Subhana Allah to Allah, the One and the unique, he it is
alone whom we worship, and it is his aid that we seek. He revealed the Quran to our Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and he taught them how to speak as to what follows we begin today in
sha Allah a new topic within our Stories of the Prophets within the story of a Prophet Adam, Allah
His Salam, and today's entire lecture will be dedicated to the alleged role of our mother Hawa May
Allah azza wa jal send her sons, his Sadat and send them upon her, and what hasn't been mentioned
		

			about the role of Hawa when it comes to this issue of disobedience, this issue of eating from the
tree, now the Quran, the Quran, is actually very, very explicit in this regard, in that our mother
how war is never singled out and no blame is put on her directly. Any time the blame is put it is
put on the both of them for worse, wasa Lahoma, a Shavon Shavon whispered to the both of them for a
gala minha the both of them ate from the tree, all Rob BANA of alumna and fusina. They said both
Adam and Hawa we have wronged ourselves, we'll call a semi Huma shaytaan deluded the both of them
Fidella Huma shaytaan caused the both of them to slip, Allah says LM and her coma didn't I stop the
		

			both of you from eating from this tree? What upper left coma and I said to the both of you that you
should not eat from this tree. So the Quran has no concept of how we're taking an extra blame from
them. In fact, if anything, it is the opposite because even though the default of the Quran is to
mention the both of them together, sometimes Allah azza wa jal singles out our father Adam. Hence it
is as if we get from the Quran that our father Adam has the lion's share or the bigger share of
responsibility. And the most explicit verses of course, we will call her Wow saw demo robber who
fell over them disobeyed his Lord and went astray. Then Allah chose him and accepted his repentance
		

			and guided him again. It is very, very clear from the Quranic parrot paradigm, the Quranic narrative
that our family has salaam appears to have a larger share of responsibility. And this is what many
scholars have sealed concluded as well. The great Mufasa the alarm, even assured in his utter headin
within will, he writes that the money his Salam was the one who acted upon the worst was out of
shape on and ate from the tree and how wha ate with him, and Shavon primarily attempted to seduce
them, even though he wanted both Adam and how to eat because he knew that the woman typically
follows her husband and it is in the nature of a woman to follow her husband. And that is why Allah
		

			says wow saw dimora who even though he said this is all even actual even to Allah says for Akella
minha the both of them eight even and then Allah azza wa jal singles out Adam and so Adam was the
one who will harder for to know He Allah He to Allah yeah who he was the one who disobeyed the
commandment of Allah subhanho wa taala. And the both of them then ate from the tree and Hawa
followed the example of her husband, Adam Hawa followed the example of Adam. And so when Adam ate
Hawa followed, and this is in accordance with what Allah says in the Quran, or you who believe
speaking to the men, protect yourselves and your families from the punishment of Allah from the fire
		

			of *, and quote, and we also of course, in the famous Hadith, well known mutawatir Hadith, that
when moose and Adam met in the animal Barraza, and Musa says to Adam, are you the one who ate from
the tree? And are you the one who exited who causes us to be expelled from Jana? And Adam does not
say actually, no, it wasn't me. It was my wife, your mother. How
		

			What No, he doesn't say that he takes responsibility. And then of course, the issue of mother comes
up. So the Quran and the water water sunnah seems to indicate that
		

			our father Adam, if anybody had a greater show, now there is one tradition, we're going to come to
it. Now, we're going to come to so be patient we're going to come into at the end of today, or in
the middle of today's lecture. Contrast this with the biblical narrative with the Old Testament and
the New Testament, the role of Hawa of Eve becomes crucial, The story centers around her she becomes
the primary culprit. In fact, it is as if Adam is a, you know, bachata miskeen. He's like a poor
person who has no blame he's exonerated, and the bulk of the curse and the bulk of the anger goes
upon Hawa. This is one of the fundamental differences between the biblical paradigm and between the
		

			Quranic paradigm, I refer you to Genesis chapter three verses one to 16. And I'm going to read these
because this is a very important section. And of course, as we said, this is a meandering lecture
Alhamdulillah, no limits and ends and I go wherever I want to go, in terms of content and tangents
and what not. And I wanted to contrast the story of how of Eve in the Bible versus the Quran and
then mentioned some things at the end. So the Bible says, Genesis chapter three, now the serpent
serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the
woman, Did God actually say you shall not eat of any tree in the garden. And the woman said to the
		

			serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God has said, you shall not eat of
the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, nor shall you touch it, lest you shall
die. But the serpent said to the woman, You shall not die shortly You shall not die, For God knows
that when you eat a bit, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God and knowing good and
evil pause here, remember, the Christian or the biblical notion was that the tree gave them
knowledge. And the Quranic notion is that is that the tree was alleged to give them eternal life.
There's a contrast here, and we mentioned about how the church use that move on to the back to the
		

			Genesis now. So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that was a delight for to
the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and
she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate and quote, how many times the woman
did the woman did, the woman did. shaytaan seduces the woman, the woman is the one who begins the
eating, the woman is the one who convinces her husband, the woman is the one who hands the apple to
Adam, the entire blame is on Eve. So the image of Eve as the temptress as the seductress has been,
resulted in an extremely negative stereotype throughout most of Judeo Christian tradition. And in
		

			fact, because of this, all women were believed to have inherited from their mother, the biblical
Eve, the guilt and also the seduction, the temptress so they're both guilty, and they're also evil
because they can seduce Consequently, there was this notion that women were all untrustworthy, they
were morally inferior, they were wicked. And in fact, quite explicitly, as we will mention,
according to the Old Testament, God punished not just Eve but the daughters of Eve, God punished all
women because of the sin of Eve. And he punished them by menstruation, by pregnancy by childbearing,
and by many more things, this was a punishment for the eternal guilt of the cursed female because of
		

			what she had done to seduce her husband. It has Salam. And we can examine and look at this motif
throughout the biblical literature. The Old Testament for example, has in the chapter of or in the
book of Ecclesiastes chapter seven verses 26 to 28. This this verse here, that I find more bitter
than death, the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap, and whose hands are chained, the man
who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare while I was still searching, but
not finding, I found one upright man amongst 1000, but not one upright woman amongst them all and
quote, and then another part of the Hebrew Bible, which is found in the Catholic version of the Old
		

			Testament, again, Ecclesiastes chapter 25. No wickedness comes anywhere near the wickedness of woman
sin began with a woman and thanks to her, we must all die, end quote. So the sin began with a woman
she is the one who is guilty and the entire
		

			I your race of mankind is cursed because of her because of her, we are all going to die. This is
what the Old Testament says. And because of this, in the biblical commentaries, the, the, the the
Talmudic literature and the commentaries on the, the Old Testament and the Mishnah, you'll find a
lot of references to the negative nature of women. And you have in the Babylonian Talmud, in the
tract known as Eruvin 100, we find that Rabbi Isaac Ben aadmi states, Eve was cursed with 10 curses,
and then he lists them all unto women, God said that, I will greatly multiply which refers to the
drops of blood, menstruation and the drop of blood of virginity, meaning that her virginity is a
		

			mark of chastity on her, and when she loses it according to this track them. Speaking of this tract
here, that it will be a mark of basically, you know, dishonor in some ways, if he does it in an
illegitimate manner, the pain of bringing up children, and the pain of conception, and the pain of
giving birth. So he mentioned three different pains here. And he says that the verse in the Bible
that you shall be, that thigh desire shall be to your husband teaches that a woman yearns for her
husband when he is about to set out on a journey, meaning that the woman is attached to the husband
more than vice versa. Again, I'm just quoting you with the rabbi says Don't, don't take this as my
		

			statements here, and that he shall rule over the teachers that a wife solicits the husband, in order
to engage not the other way around, and her hair is wrapped up like a mortar. She is banished from
the company of men, she may only be married to one man at a time, and she is confined to house like
a prison and quote, this was a quick run over of 10 curses that God gave to women. According to this
ancient Rabbi that is found in the Babylonian Talmud, the point being that the notion of woman being
evil and the source of evil and a seductress and a temptress, it has permeated throughout much of
Judeo Christian culture. And this second class notion of women, it comes from this notion of Eve,
		

			having tempted Adam, and the entire legacy of mankind begins with this. And to this day, a segment
of the Jewish people in particular, the Orthodox, they begin their prayers in the mornings, they
have a morning prayer. And if you are a man, you begin by saying this, that to bless it be God, King
of the universe, that Thau has not made me a woman, bless it be God, because I'm not a woman, thank
God, I'm not a woman. And the woman is told to say that thank God for making me according to your
will, simple as that it's not my fault you made me in this manner. And another prayer that is found
in many Jewish prayer books that praise be to God, he has not created me a Gentile, praise be to God
		

			he has not created me a woman, praise be to God he has not created me a fool. So and quote, so this
notion of woman being inferior. Now, if you look at the Quran and Sunnah there is no equivalent, no
man is told, thank Allah, that you're not a woman, as if being a woman is evil. Allah says in the
Quran, that he is the one who decides who gets boys who gets girls, and he gives boys and girls to
whomever he pleases. Allah criticizes the Quran in the Quran for thinking that boys are superior to
girls. So look at this whole difference between the Quranic paradigm and the biblical paradigm. And
by the way, just for the, for the record, to be very clear, these Jewish prayers are only set by a
		

			segment of them the Orthodox and segues for some segments, they are not held by the conservative and
the reformed, we are not trying to paint the entire religion in this manner. But it is true to state
that large groups, especially in pre modern times of Jews, and Christians, they felt that women
overall were second class to men, and that they weren't as noble as men. And that is not our belief.
I recently gave a hold book, you will find it online gender roles in Islam, please listen to that
men and women are equal in terms of their nobility. Yes, they have different tasks and
responsibilities that has nothing to do with their nobility. They are equally human, and they're
		

			equally dignified, and they're equally accessing their ways to Jannah. Allah did not prefer one
gender over the other. But this is not the notion of many theologians of other faith traditions, and
frankly, sometimes even our own three tradition has failed to live up to its own understanding. So
the point is that the biblical Eve, the biblical Hawa, has played a far bigger role in this notion
of seducing Adam and in causing the downfall and this has given rise to a version of gender
inequality in Judaism and Christianity.
		

			That's we find in both amongst some Jewish rabbis and amongst many church fathers, many of the
Church Fathers of the New Testament of Christianity, they felt that Eve was the cause of the fault
of all humanity. And therefore, her daughters were sin, sinners like their mother. So St. Paul, for
example, who is really one of the main founders of your life. He has founded this modern notion of
Christianity for more than Jesus Christ Himself did. St. Paul says in the New Testament, in one
Timothy, chapter two verses 11 to 14, St. Paul writes, a woman should learn in quietness and full
submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man she must be silent, For
		

			Adam was for was formed first, and then Eve. And Adam was not the one who deceived. It was the woman
who was deceived, and she became a sinner and quote, so St. Paul, the real founder of the Trinity
and the concept of redemption, redemption and the abolishment of the law. St. Paul is the one who
says, Woman was the one who seduced Adam, that's where sin begins. And she is the source of evil,
another early church father, Saint Tertullian, he says, And he writes it in one of his treatises,
and he's one of the most respected of the first generation of church fathers. Do you not know that?
Each of you he's speaking to women, he's speaking to women? Do you know he's writing to women? Do
		

			you not know that each of you are an Eve, the sentence of God on this * of yours lives in this
age, the guilt must of necessity live too. You are the devil's gateway. You are the unsealed er of
the forbidden tree. You are the first deserter of the Divine Law. You are she who persuaded him whom
the devil was not courageous enough to attack meaning you're the one who seduced Adam shaytaan
couldn't do it. You destroyed so easily God's image man, on account of your desertion, even the Son
of God had to die and quote, so Saint Tertullian minces no words about his view of the role of
women. You are the devil's gateway, you are the unsealing of the forbidden tree. shaytaan couldn't
		

			attack Adam, he used you to attack Adam, this is St. Tertullian. St. Augustine, who is without a
doubt the most famous and respected of the Church Fathers of early Christianity, and his confession
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			an amazing testament to be honest of
		

			his own version of piety. By the way, these people
		

			there is no problem in in saying that before because they were pre pre Islam, we leave the refer to
Allah subhanho wa taala. We don't have to say anything. You know about their fate, we leave the
refer to Allah. These people were trying to be righteous in a time when there was no prophethood of
our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and they inherited a corrupted version of Christianity. And
Allah azza wa jal talks about their fate and the last verses of Surah Telma Ada, that those who are
righteous and sincere that it is possible Allah might forgive them. And I have read the confessions
of St. Augustine, and it is truly a very spiritual and moving book if you are studying early
		

			Christianity. And so that's why I mean, just because we disagree with this notion here. And, and
whatnot, we are not saying that everything about them is necessarily evil, no doubt they had many
mistakes, and this is one of them. St. Augustine writes that, what is the difference whether it is
in a wife or a mother, it is still Eve the temptress that we must be aware of in any woman, I fail
to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children, and quote
Subhanallah there is no use there's no fat either. Women are no fat either except as bearers of
children. What benefits us a seductress is that temptress we must be aware of a wife or a mother or
		

			a sister doesn't matter. He's saying what difference is it make about whether he she is a sister, a
wife, she is the temptress that's the one who seduced all of mankind, and then the greatest
theologian of medieval Christianity. So St. Augustine is the greatest early Christianity and St.
Thomas Aquinas is the greatest of medieval Christianity. St. Thomas Aquinas writing 1000 years after
St. Augustine, not 1000. How much 800 years after St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas. He writes, that
as regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten. For the active force in the
male sea tends to produce the perfection the perfect likeness of the masculine while the production
		

			of woman comes from a defect in the act of force or
		

			From material indisposition or even from some external influence, and the same goes for so many
other Christian theologians, including Martin Luther, the founder of Protestant Christianity, that
once again the notion of Eve being the seductress trance, you permeates throughout their writings
again and again in the Jewish Mishnah and Talmud ik literature, and in Christian Church Fathers and
theologians, women are denigrated, because of the image of Eve, the image of the temptress, the
image of the one whom even shaytaan had to use to get to our father, Adam, as I said, the Quran
could not be more different. And I really wanted to make this point in today's lecture, you really
		

			have to appreciate and we thank Allah, we have such a different version of this biblical story. And
we should not therefore have any problem in saying or any issue and saying that the Testament or the
New Old or New Testaments version of the story of Adam and how it His name is set up, really is a
corruption of the original story where the Quran does not lay blame to Adam at sorry to her at all,
individually. Never is the our mother who was singled out. If anything, they are both guilty
equally. And if anything, the mighty hustler takes the lion's responsibility. That is the Quranic
narrative. Now, is there any other evidence to suggest that how it has Scylla might have played a
		

			role?
		

			There is, and there's two main evidences for this in our own literature. The first of them is very
easily dismissed. And this is a number of reports from early Morpha. Soon not from the prophets of
Allah Allah who was not even attributed to him from early more fussy rune, such as Qatada such as
even even above such as others, who are well known to take from the surah in the yard. Now if you go
back to one of my previous lectures, I went over in some detail the notion of early authorities
taking from Israeli or taking from the Judeo Christian lore, I have just quoted you 15, not 50,
maybe a dozen quotations from the older New Testament and from rabbis and church fathers, it is very
		

			clear what the Israelis say. And perhaps the Sahaba and the tab your own had access to Israeli yet
that we do not have access to anymore because again, the compilation of Australia there's a whole
story altogether. The point being the Quran is very clear in this regard. Israeli it is very clear,
Judeo Christian sources very clear. Now it is it should come as no surprise that those Tabby rune
and yes, even the few Sahaba, who believed it to be permissible to take from the Iliad, have the
same notion found amongst them. And I will quote you perhaps the most famous narration reported an
authority and an old sword and how comes muster that I can be helped to show and others from
		

			slightly diminished debate from Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu Allah. And that had been Abbas said, No, this
is an ibis, saying this is an ibis is just telling his students this right. Ibn Abbas said, When
Adam ate from the tree that he was forbidden from Allah said to him, why did you disobey me? Them
said, how wa seduced me. How wa made it a plea of appeasing to me.
		

			So Allah said, I shall then punish her, that she shall only give birth in pain. And sorry, she shall
only carry the baby in pain and give birth in pain and bleed monthly, meaning the cycle. When Huwa
heard this, she cried out in anger and frustration and whatnot. And Allah said to her, and your lot,
your your Jani fate is going to be to constantly cry you and your daughters after you end quote.
Now, we need to be very clear here people and again, may Allah and you protect us some people that
are just so ultra sensitive and not very erudite or academic or open minded. They don't understand.
We explained. Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu Taala and how can we ever be frustrated irritated him he's a
		

			greatest scholar amongst the latest Sahaba he's a cousin of the prophets of Allah or Alec was salam,
Robbie Allahu taala. And we receive love and respect him, but we have to understand one simple
point. He felt that it is completely permissible to narrate Surah Aliette and this is something
everybody knows, by the way, just because some of our younger viewers who are overzealous and
wanting to consider everybody to be a deviant don't know this that's upon them. Every scholar of his
		

			Islam who studies tafsir knows this right? When we point this out, there is no disrespect for even
IBISWorld the Allahu and he had a methodology that methodology was I'm allowed to take from Judeo
Christian sources, okay? If we understand that methodology. Now we come across something that is
from Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu Allah or his students who took from Ibn Abbas right. So you had Qatada.
You had Mujahid you had, you know, say they've been Juba and others over the next years. And all of
them are in the same mindset and philosophy that it is okay to take from Judeo Christian sources,
and I quote it even Khaldoun, the great Allama, the great intellectual thinker from from Underoos,
		

			who said that many of the Sahaba and Toblerone, they felt that the Jewish law was an encyclopedia of
knowledge. And the Arabs did not have any knowledge at the before Islam. So because the Jewish
people had knowledge and the Arabs had no knowledge at the time, the first generation felt that any
knowledge from the Jewish civilization would be good and legitimate because there was nothing to
contrast to right. And so they felt it to be completely permissible and okay. And they interpreted
some a hadith of the process of in this regard. And I went over those ahaadeeth as well had the two
administrator well 100 I went over them in a previous lecture. So the fact that even Abbas says
		

			this, and it is found in tuxedo 30. So what we respect and love even Abbas budget is not something
we must believe in, on the contrary, because it goes against the Quran and it appears to be in
complete sync in harmony with the Bible. We should reject such narrations as being divine or
authentic. Now, did it even Abbas said yes, he must have said it. It doesn't mean it is from Allah
subhana wa Tada. That's the key point here that the Sahaba are allowed to hold opinions and their
opinions are respected, but they're not binding on the rest of us. And that's the point here and the
same goes for so many other narrations that we find from the early scholars who took from the
		

			Israeli Iliad. So, once again, if you look at this group of great erudite, some of the Sahaba and
many of the Taberner Winterbottom Varun, they are quoting this notion of Eve as the seductress Eve
as the temptress Eve as the one who told Adam to eat and I say all such narrations, we simply point
out with utmost respect to those who said them, they are not coming from ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada from
the Quran. They are coming from Israel in the yard, and we should not have anything to do with them.
Because it clashes it's not neutral. Our Prophet solicit and basically allowed us to narrate from
the Bani Israel when it's neutral when it has no when it doesn't go against the Quran. And I follow
		

			this methodology. And I myself will sometimes be quoting you something from Israeli and I'll tell
you this is from the Israeli yard. But when something from the Israeli yet causes this type of
gender tension, when it when it when it denigrates an entire gender. And it brings about this notion
of women being inferior, and women being the seductress and women being the temptress, well, then we
have to put our foot down and say no, the Quran doesn't tell us this, if anything, our father Adam
is more responsible, because Allah said so while saw the Mora who fell Hawa. So all of these reports
that are found in the books of tafsir we are they are there. We respect those who said them, but we
		

			simply say they are not a part of the tradition that we are obliged to follow. Okay.
		

			There is no one text that will bring about more issues. And that text is not narrative or even a
bass. It is not attributed to Qatada or Mujahid, or say they've been Jubail? No, this text is
attributed to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and it is an indirect reference to the
tempting of Hawa to our father, Adam, and this is where we get to the notion or this this the issue
of did our mother halwa tempt them or not from our tradition. As we explained the Quran and the
clearly mutter water sunnah does not have this but there is one Hadith that is found in the
authentic books body and Muslim. And it is reported by Abu Hurayrah probably Allahu taala. That he
		

			says that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, Lola Hawa were it not for Hawa, no woman
would ever betray to hon her husband, and were it not for the children of Israel, no meat would ever
spoil and of Hadith. Now, this hadith is is not wise, authentic, and it is reported in Bukhari and
Muslim which is the highest level of authenticity.
		

			But it has two facts in it, both of which have given our early commentators
		

			offers much food for thought. And much cause to pause and ruminate and pontificate and try to figure
out what do these Hadith mean, were it not for how wa no woman would ever betray her husband? And
were it not for the children of Israel, no meat would ever spoil. Now, as for the notion of Hawa,
betraying her husband and whatnot, I have already explained, I mean, I've already shown you for a
meaning that this notion is clearly found in the Old Testament and the New Testament right? Now,
whether the person said or not, we're going to come to this point here. As for the second phrase,
were it not for the children of Israel, no meat would spoil. This is also a motif that is found in
		

			the Old Testament, the phrase that meat would not spoil had not been for the children of Israel. It
has caused a lot of discussion amongst early scholars, because what exactly does that mean? I mean,
one interpretation is that before the time of the children of Israel, basically, the children Israel
lived 3000 years ago, right? So if one were to understand one interpretation of this hadith
4000 5000 10,000 years ago, meat would not spoil if you left it outside. That is one interpretation
that one may derive from this hadith. But even our early scholars found this interpretation.
		

			No, not appropriate. Meat would not spoil if left out in the air, and it was the children of Israel
that caused me to spoil. And
		

			this has mentioned that Qatar and others said that the Bani Israel were the first to store meat. And
because they stored meat, they learned that it became rotten, meaning according to this
interpretation, it's not that meat did not spoil before bananas rotten, it is that nobody stored
meat, they just left it and walked away, or they didn't store it or whatever. So they didn't know
that it became rotten. And the bunny started with the first to try to preserve it and make it dry
and keep it and so they learned that it becomes rotten, and others have other interpretations, some
of which are even more far fetched than the other. But clearly, this phrase has raised a lot of
		

			eyebrows, even in our early scholars had been Hajra has a paragraph trying to find different
interpretations of what exactly this hadith means. And he simply Neris a number of opinions and then
moves on. But it's quite interesting to note that this same notion of meat spoiling because it has
been left out. It is exactly found in the Old Testament, in Exodus chapter 16. I quote you, verses
14 onwards, and this is when the children of Israel were wandering in the in the valleys and there
were there were wandering in the Exodus and when they were expelled and there was still 140 years.
		

			The Bible says, when the deal was gone, thin flakes like frost on the ground appeared on the desert
floor. When the Israelites saw it. They said to each other, what is it for they did not know what it
was, Moses said to them. It is the bread the Lord has given you to eat. This is what the Lord has
commanded every one of us to gather as much as they need. Take on Omar as a unit for each person you
have in your tent. The Israelites did as they were told, some gathers more some gathered less. And
when they measured it by the Omar the unit, the one who gathered much did not have too much. And the
one who gathered little did not have too little everyone had gathered just as much as they needed a
		

			miracle happened. Then Moses said to them, no one is to keep any of it until the morning, finish it
up. You're not going to you have to put your trust in Allah. The next morning, you'll get another
batch do not store the meat. However, some of them paid no attention to Moses. They kept a part of
it until the morning, but it was full of maggots and begin to smell. So Moses was angry with them.
And then the passage goes on. This was the first time meat became rotten, became full of maggots and
began to smell because they disobeyed their Lord and they kept this man and Salwa. They kept this
meat when the Moses forbade them to keep meat. Now, it is interesting to note that this hadith in
		

			Bukhari and Muslim Narrated by Abu Hurayrah, the first phrase of it has Hawa betraying Adam, and the
second phrase has the Bani Israel causing the meat to go rotten. And both of these motifs again this
is I'm just saying factually, are clearly found in the Old Testament. So the issue then comes
		

			do we accept this narration or not? The vast
		

			majority of our scholars did. And the reason is because this is an authentic hadith with authentic
isnaad Back to Abu Huraira the Allah one and abora is saying the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
said, another group of scholars from Sunni Islam. They said that Abu Hurayrah Radi Allahu Allah,
Allah can sometimes his students mixed up. And as we said in a previous lecture, go back to that
lecture, even Mr. Muslim, the famous student of Behati and the great Adam and the great scholar of
Hadith in his guitar with to Muse which is one of the books that he wrote. He mentioned that people
would see that Abu Huraira has narrations sometimes, gabble bars narrations got mixed up with them,
		

			and gabble bar was the rabbi, the son of the rabbi, the grandson of the rabbi, his whole family was
rabbis. And Cabot bar was the senior most Rabbi convert in the time of the Sahaba slash Tabby rune.
And he would narrate to Abu Hurayrah, our heroes, his price student, and he said famously, that none
of my students knows the Bible, without learning Hebrew, then Abu Huraira because he had narrated
the Bible the Old Testament to him. So a number of scholars have said that this hadith might
actually not be a hadith, it's not from the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam this might be from
the Austro Iliad this might be from that mix up that has happened, as so many scholars pointed out
		

			that in the narrations of warriors sometimes we find Gabbatha Boris effects and there is a
legitimate mix up of potential contamination. Now, this leads us to a much larger topic which it's
not the the primary topic that we're doing in this series, and this is a bit academic, but I want
you to know what it is it is called mutton criticism. What is mutton mutton is the words of the
Hadith and it's not is the chain that goes to the words so every single Hadith has an it's not an A
mutton, the is not is so and so narrated from so and so narrative from so and so narrative from the
sahabi narrated from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, this chain of narrators is called an
		

			isnaad. Right at the end of the isnaad is the famous Imam Al Bukhari Imam Muslim imam tell me the
mama widowed or any of the 500 Plus authors who wrote books and treatises about Hadith and Sunnah
the compilers, the original compiler is at the end of this nut on the other side of the isnaad you
have the Sahaba who inherit from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam between the compiler and the
sahabi This is the fool is not and so this is the is not the bulk of Hadith criticism, 95% of it
deals with the snot
		

			is it authentic? Are the people trustworthy? Do they have good memories? Have they met one another?
Is there any defect missing link? That's 95% of it. Generally speaking, the concept of criticizing
the mutton the concept of saying okay, even if the Snark is authentic, is the mutton also authentic
or not? Generally speaking, mainstream Sunni scholars were very, very hesitant to open this door.
Why? Because they did not want to do what the other groups did, especially their counter part, which
is the Morteza school the two main schools of early Islam were the Morteza Li and the Sunni. And
from the mortar Zilla, you had many strands Twelver Shiism, and sadism and herbalism they took many
		

			of the notions of the mortal Zilla and they adopted them. And you had of course, soon ism as well.
So Sunni Islam, generally speaking, and we are all I am we're all belonging to Sunni Islam.
Generally speaking, they did not want to open the door of mutton criticism. Why? Because the more
arteza were the exact opposite. They cared more about the mutton than they did about the isnaad. And
they said of Hadith doesn't make sense, then we're not gonna accept it. But the problem comes if a
hadith doesn't make sense, according to whom, and this is where the Sunnah Sunnis felt very
uncomfortable with the Martha zili paradigm. They said, Who are we to reject with the Prophet
		

			sallallahu? I just send them might have said, if he said it, we must accept it. And that's a great
premise to start from because exactly that is true. Like a worker is so different the Allahu and if
he said it, it must be true. And so they generally speaking, I mean Sudanese did not want to open
the door for mutton criticism. And generally speaking, no matter how, generally speaking, whatever
the mutton was, they would accept it if the isnaad were authentic, unless they had to, and when did
they have to? Well, generally speaking, again, being very generic, this is a crash course in a very
advanced aspect of masala Hadith, which is beyond the scope of our lectures, but it is important
		

			that we understand this because again, the only we have to do
		

			As clarified that those people who did find this particular Hadith to be not authentic, they are
applying legitimate Sunni principles even if you disagree with their conclusion. The methodology is
not more diversity the more the methodology is Sunni to say that this hadith seems to contradict the
Quran, and it seems to contradict each other a hadith and the narrator or the narrators are known to
come from a contamination of Cabot bar ie the same source we know from so many instances and from
Imam Muslims book and whatnot authentic narrations we know that Gabriella Boras statements sometimes
creeped in and so what if this was one of them and we know this to be the case before anybody
		

			accuses or whatnot great scholars like your mama know we like even to me like imminent AHA em, they
pointed out in another nourish not this one. By the way. abou Herrera has a narration in Sahih,
Muslim, Abu Huraira Radi Allahu Allah and has an original Sahih Muslim. That is highly problematic
for many scholars of Islam, as I said, even in no way and even to me, I don't know him, they all say
this is from the Australia is not from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and that is an
aberration in which it is alleged, it is alleged that you know, the prophets of salaam said Allah
created the earth in six days. On Saturday, he created the mountains on Sunday, he created the
		

			oceans on Monday, he did this on Saturday. So he lists in this narration, something that is pretty
much straight out of Genesis, it's literally you can call it you can see Genesis and this and it's
very, very similar. And it goes against the Quran, and it goes against the seven days and it goes
against what not. And so a lot of our Allama said this hadith is not from the Prophet salAllahu
alayhi wasallam. It is from the Israeli yards. It is from Judeo Christian sources. Now, when they
say this, nobody should accuse them of rejecting or will do anything that the Prophet system is
saying, here's where we have to be again, we have to be more intellectual and academic. We have to
		

			calm down our emotions when somebody objects to a chain or a mutton. And they say the prophets have
some did not say this and they find a weakness. This is not a rejection of the prophets of Allah who
isn't it's a rejection of a statement being attributed to him. And the difference between the two is
the difference between Eman and Cofer. I repeat, the difference between the two is the difference
between Iman and Cofer. If somebody says, I don't care if the prophet system said it, I'm not going
to accept it. That is Cofer. I repeat, if somebody rejects something they know came from the mouth
of the prophet system this is called for. But if a scholar says no, no, this this this hadith, which
		

			is reported in this book, I don't think it came from the prophets of salaam because of such and such
a reason. And because of this, I consider to be weak or Israeli yet, and I don't accept it. This is
not cool for at all. You You could say he's wrong. You could say he's mistaken. You could say he's
applied wrong principles you can disagree, but it is not crucial to find a hadith week because of
the problem in the isnaad. That's the essence of Sunni Islam, or even a problem in the mutton if it
is done properly. And I'll give you some examples so that you understand mutton criticism. While it
is rare in mainstream Sunni Islam. It is found and it is done and it is a well known chapter in the
		

			books of Masada are the books of the sciences of Hadith. And there are many instances for example,
the sahabi could have made an honest mistake and it is authentically narrated, he said something and
he's attributing it to the past, but his memory is wrong. The classic example is the famous
narration is Sahih Muslim, that even Abbas Allah the Allahu Taala and the great Ibn Abbas the same
Ibn Abbas said that his Aunt May Munna it is his own holler Maimunah is his own aren't that the
prophecy is a married Maimunah while he was in a haram while he was in Haram, do you know after you
know the the Umbra when you go to the Haram before exiting the Haram according to this report that
		

			had been Abbas that the prophecies and married Maimunah while he was in a haram, the vast majority
of scholars even told the isnaad is like the sun. They say even Abbas is wrong. Because the prophets
Assam was not in Haram because Maimunah herself narrates that the processor married me when he got
out of Iran. So you have a narration of a nephew. And you have a narration of the eyewitness and the
one who actually was the one married Who are you going to accept this has nothing criticism. Okay.
You have in Sahih Muslim? You know the process that he prayed the Eclipse prayer once in his
lifetime right once in his lifetime he played the Eclipse prayer in Sahih Muslim with authentic is
		

			nods we have multiple narrations of how he prayed
		

			Multiple mutually exclusive, contradictory narrations. Some say he did two, some days, the three
record sounds dated for record. And he only prayed at once. How could he have done three record or
two record or four record in the same record? Clearly, something is not right and some of them and
so our scholars have sifted through. And there are 50 books written about this. But the point is,
this is where mutton criticism occurs. So, if somebody were to say, if somebody were to say that
yes, this hadith is in body and Muslim, and yes, the default is that we acceptable haughty and
Muslim, but in this particular case, this narration, both of its phrases, really seems to go against
		

			the rest of the texts. And the source has been known to be contaminated, ie the reports from cabinet
bar and the circle of Cavalia bar. And therefore, the stronger position will be that this hadith is
from the Israelis, the not from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, then this is a valid
opinion, and it has been opined by a number of especially modern authors from within Sunni Islam.
However, this is an opinion, and it is a minority opinion, there is no doubt that the majority of
opinion throughout our Islamic history has been that the hadith is from the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam, and therefore, if that is the case, then they have interpreted and accepted it to
		

			be valid. And so even hedger comments that the betrayal of Hawa to Adam was not a betrayal of
adultery, for no wife of any prophet even ruled and nor betrayed them in this manner. Rather, it was
the betrayal of enticing and the betrayal of encouraging her husband to eat from the tree. And so he
then says this admin hedgerows saying that because Hawaii did this to Adam, so too, if any woman
betrays her husband, it is as if she is not doing justice to her husband in this regard. And YBNL,
Josie, the famous scholar, he says, As for the betrayal of her wife, to her husband, he says, it was
because she did not advise him regarding the tree. And she should have stopped him from doing so.
		

			And quote here. And here, he says the same thing, that the betrayal of Hawa was that she did not
advise Adam, when he ate from the tree and quote, now to gently push back. And again, these are
great aroma. And I understand, you know, when I say these types of statements, many people they get
very flustered and whatnot, and who are you and how dare and what not. And the responses that we all
have the right after having studied to have opinions and positions, we present these opinions,
whoever wants to take them fine, whoever does not that is fine, to gently push back. And of course,
even though Josie and a theory are great giants of our tradition, but to gently push back and say,
		

			if this is considered betrayal, then all of us have betrayed everybody in this earth. If this is
Kiana, that her that, however, did not stop Adam and Hawaii did not stop. And so that's why we're it
not for Hawa, no woman would betray her husband, right? That's a very, very blunt statement. Did the
Prophet system say that, that women betray their husband because Hawa betrayed Adam? Or is this a
sentiment found in the old the New Testament as I have quoted you? So those people who say, this
phrase, and the other phrase meat spoiling because of the children of Israel? These are not some
things that in all likelihood, the prophets of Saddam said, then that is a valid opinion. And I
		

			would respect that opinion, and it is within the mainstream and it is applying the principles of
masala Hadith. And if somebody says, as is even hedger on on these great scholars, and we all love
and respect them, that no, it is a betrayal. But it is a betrayal that Hawa did not stop Adam and
Howard did not advise Adam the way that she should have advised him. And so that's the betrayal. And
so any woman who does the same has also betrayed her husband. Okay, that is an opinion. And we
respect that opinion. And I leave both of these opinions for you. And you can decide which one you
think is the more accurate one. And in the end of the day, as I said, you have therefore these two
		

			positions there. And the first position is that
		

			that this notion of how we're betraying our father Adam, and how was seducing Adam, and how was
telling them to eat? It is a purely biblical one found in the Old and New Testament and the Quran.
		

			Clearly, without a doubt, nobody can say this, that the Quran the narrative of the Quran has nothing
to do the biblical narrative. And the Quran does not place any primary blame on Hawa, there is no
singling out of Hawa at all, whereas the Old Testament blames Hawa almost entirely women, woman
Woman has done this almost exonerating Adam from the picture, as if you know, he has nothing to do
with it. And from that Western civilization went the way that it did. And because of that feminism
do what it had to do, feminism is a byproduct, because because of how they treated women in medieval
era, therefore, they had to make that up by going the way that they did. And every action has an
		

			equal and opposite reaction. And so from one extreme, they go to another extreme, but the point
being that, if you want to take this notion, and because of this say, this one narration that is
found from the cabin, bar circle does not really tally up to the rest of the Quran, to the entirety
of the Quran, and to the other traditions of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, that's a valid
opinion to hold. And if you want to say, well, we will accept it because the majority scholars have
accepted it because Bukhari and Muslim have accepted it, well, then that too, is a safe position as
well that if you wish to hold it, but one should be careful to not extrapolate from this and go down
		

			the route of Western civilization. Do not blame women for something that even if our mother had done
it, it is one person we don't believe in the original sin. And that's another point of this hadith
by the way, that word not for how was the rest of women? What have the rest of women got to do with
how by the way why should the rest of women have to do with our mother how well as Allah says in the
Quran, colonists and democracy but Raveena and as Allah says, the Quran locally Fulani, F's and Illa
WUSA and Allah says in the Quran letters it was it was an okra and now we find the Hadith that comes
from the pool of gab. And it seems to suggest all women share a trait of one mother, it actually
		

			goes against the Quranic message brothers and sisters, let's be brutally honest here. It goes
against the Quranic message that nobody shall bear the sin of another and no one shall be held
accountable because of another. So even if our father ate, it's not my sin that I have to worry
about. Even if our mother might have done something. It's not going to be cast upon women that
because of that, she's going to have the painful child childhood or childbirth and a painful you
know, giving this in a painful menstruation. No, this is straight from the Bible. It is not from the
Quran, or from the words of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. So anyway, to conclude, as I
		

			said, we have both of these opinions there. And I'll leave it to you to see which one you think is
the one that is more in line with
		

			the Quran and what we know of the Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and in the end,
Allah azza wa jal knows best and I say very clearly and unabashedly, whatever the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam said, and we know that he said it, it is true, anything he said, We believe in it.
But the question is, what how do we know what he actually said and what he didn't say and that's
where the sciences of Hadith come in. That's where we will find differences of opinion from the
beginning of time up until our times however, this will come to the conclusion of today's lecture
about the role or the alleged role of our mother Hawa and I will see you Inshallah, next Wednesday
		

			until then, just a couple little hit Send unwanted rahmatullahi wa barakato.
		

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