Yasir Qadhi – My Company Has Some Haram Dealings, Does That Make My Job Haram Ask Shaykh YQ – EP 263

			Brother Arshak from New York says that he works in a company doing some off doing some office work.
And he is saying that some aspects of his company and some of their policies and some of their
procedures are unethical, he goes into a lot of detail. But just to be like vague about this, he
says that they might change some numbers, you know, on their accounting in order for tax purposes.
And you know, it's overlooked. Everybody knows about this. So he says that his actual job is not
directly involved in anything that's shady. But he's wondering that, does he come under supporting
how long and hence he's worried about his is added to this brother Ridhwan says that he's working as
		

			an Uber Eats driver. And, you know, as a part of his job, obviously, he's delivering food parcels.
And no doubt, sometimes there's going to be some haram in those parcels. He's just picks up the food
and he delivers it. And that's his only source of income. So he's wondering the shutter rulings on
that. And brother Salmaan says that he's working as a manager in an ice cream factory, and one of or
maybe some of the flavors, they add some alcohol to their products. And so he is the manager and he
must oversee the entire factory, which includes this aspect of the alcohol. So he's worried is it
helpful to work in such a factory as a manager? One
		

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			Now I put all of these questions together. And of course, there's a lot more questions of such a
nature. And the overall problem comes that there are people that are working in industries, and
there is an element of how long going on somewhere in those industries, and they're all worried
about their sustenance, the purity of their risk, the purity of the hardness, if you like, or if you
want me to make a pun on it. How risky is the risk is the risk in risky business? So they're worried
that are they coming under the prohibition of Islam when Allah says in the Quran, what I will know a
little bit about Taqwa wallet, I will know if you know that one, cooperate and goodness and piety
		

			and do not cooperate in evil and transgression. And of course, this is a basic rule that understood
I mean, you should not help somebody do haram right? This is understood. And there are many
evidences for this. And again, just so that we are familiar with these evidences, for example, in
Sudan, and Asahi, caballero generis, that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam came out to us one
day, and you know, we were a group of people, a sitting there, and he said, Listen to me, You shall
see after me rulers, that are evil rulers, and whoever enters into those evil rulers, palaces and
agrees with them, and helps them in their volume in their injustice, then they have nothing to do
		

			with me, and I have nothing to do with them. And they shall not drink from my fountain. And whoever
does not enter and does not help them and does not do injustice with them and does not affirm their
lies, then that is the person who is with me, and I am with him. So this is a Hadith in zona, and an
essay, which basically the process was saying, look, the ruler might be evil. If you're helping the
ruler, you're also evil. If you're doing directly the loom of the ruler, you're also evil. So this
is the whole concept of helping one another in piety, not helping one another in sin and harm. And
our profit system also said the famous Hadith, which isn't, you know, the authentic books of the
		

			Sahaba, that the prophets or some said, whoever calls people to good and guidance shall get the
reward of those who follow him without diminishing their reward. And whoever calls people to bad to
misguidance the banana shall have the sin of those who are following him without diminishing their
own sins, they're all going to be getting the sins so and of course, in the famous Hadith as well,
that there are 10 people that are accursed when it comes to alcohol. And he mentioned everybody
involved with the trade, right? Even the one who's, you know, transporting it, and the one who's
selling it and the one who's buying it and the one who's pouring it. So basically the entire
		

			industry is accursed is not just the one who drinks it is the one who's giving the bottle of wine,
he goes here if this is wine and he gives it out, he's selling it, everybody is good. So clearly,
our Shetty wants to shut to the direct avenues of evil. Now, theoretically, that's a great concept.
And of course we understand it the point of the Shediac is clear. But the issue then comes that
there are many gradations of helping and what exactly does it mean to help in evil? How directly
must we be involved in that in order for it to be
		

			haram and it is a spectrum, no doubt about it that at one level you have pure halal. On the other
level level you have pure haram. And in the middle there are going to be gradation, some which will
be macro some which will be minors and some which will be a major sin. And if you read the Treatises
of our full kaha, one finds that this is something that even our modern Roma, they say that we need
to extrapolate more about what exactly does it mean helping in evil, because, as we said, the
examples that the books or films typically give are very crystal clear, for example, giving somebody
alcohol to drink or selling somebody alcohol, okay. But in our modern world, especially as a
		

			minority in western lands, pretty much all of our companies with almost without exception, dare I
say, without exception, there will be elements of haram in those corporations, there's going to be
elements of things that are not ethical or not moral according to our Shediac. So does our being
there actually make it? Absolutely, how long are we helping aiding and abetting a corporation in all
of its sin if our job is headed, and the fact of the matter is that this is a very detailed
discussion, and our modern odema have attempted to extrapolate and given fatawa on a case by case
basis, and of the institution of the court, and of the bodies that have attempted to do so is the
		

			American Muslim jurists Association AMDA, which has discussed this issue in some detail and given
some good generic guidelines. But again, these are all generic guidelines. And in a few years ago,
they held a conference in which they talked about, you know, this level of injustice or this level
of how long and what constitutes the harm upon the individual when the company might be doing
something that is haram. And they said, that we can broadly categorize helping one another in evil
doing evil, we can broadly categorize it into four categories. Number one, they said MOBA, Shara and
Matsuda, it is immediate and it is intended, you are directly involved, and you're intending to be
		

			involved, it is direct, and it is intended, for example, to give somebody a cup of wine with the
intention that that person will directly drink the wine. So you are directly involved, and you're
intending for that person to do this. This is category one, category two is that it is direct, but
you are not intending. It's not your intention to help but it is still direct. And an example for
this is somebody who sells the wine, and the person will drink it later on, you're not directly
involved or somebody who sells drug paraphernalia, you know, so there's how you, you know, consume
drugs, it involves certain, you know, things that you use, you know, certain things to burn certain
		

			things to ingest. There is no function of these items, except for drug usage. The person might sell
it and say, hey, it's not happening on my premises, right? But this is direct, but it is not
intended, right. So this is the second category or to sell a crucifix like there are Muslims that
sell crosses and they say, Oh, look, I'm not worshiping other than Allah, I'm simply selling and
then they're doing what they are doing. So this is a second category. The third category is that it
is intended but it is not direct. You intend to do something haram, but what you are doing is
something ambiguous and could be used for Halal but your intention is haram. So for example, you pay
		

			somebody money to use the money to purchase how to um to purchase drugs to purchase the the alcohol
let's say right. So, you might not directly be involved, but you intend to be involved right. So it
is intended but it is not direct. So this is the third category and the fourth category they said
neither is a direct nor is it intended out of these four they said the first three are all haram
okay. It is direct unintended, it is direct and unintended, it is intended, but indirectly. So, all
of the and I gave examples for those right. So, if you intend to do something, how long you want to
be involved in this how long then clearly it is not allowed. However, if you are doing something
		

			that inevitably will be haram and it has no purpose except how long like selling drug paraphernalia
or selling crucifixes there is no useful you know a thing that is going to happen with these drug
pervert nobody purchases these these items except to use for ingesting harmful substances. So for
you to get involved in this business, right, it is how I'm completely the fourth category lair MOBA
Shara Warlock sola It is neither direct nor is it intended. This is where they said the leeway this
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			They said generically, it would be allowed. And no doubt some would be more haram than others. But
generic more. Haram is a harsh word here, any more gray, let's say more ambiguous and maybe leaning
towards the Haram than others. But here is where generally speaking, they said in a minority
situation, we can be a little bit more lacks. Other scholars have looked at it from different
angles. And they have asked us to consider five different things. So to look at five different
things before you pronounce the verdict on whether you think your job is haram or valid, we think or
we look at it from multiple angles. First and foremost, again, there's some overlap with the
		

			previous I'm just fatwah. But still, this is another
		

			researcher that appeals to me. So the this researcher said number one, you look at whether you are
directly involved or not, clearly, if you are directly involved in aiding and abetting something
that is unethical, that is immoral, that is illegal, something that is haram and are shady or you're
directly involved in it. Clearly, this is something that we cannot get out of and say that it is
haram to be involved in how long is haram to help the Haram directly. You are directly involved in a
murder or the you know a robbery or elaborate you know Ponzi scheme, and you know it and you're
involved with it. And you're writing doctoring, the books and everything you're involved in a scam.
		

			Clearly, if you're in on a plot, then you share the sin of the plot as well. Or if you're removed by
some degrees, you are manufacturing knives, okay, you're selling glasses. And the knife can be used
to cut vegetables, and somebody can use it to commit a sin and murder. You're selling glasses.
Somebody can use the glasses for drinking and halal and somebody can use it for how long this is a
generic glass for example, right? So clearly, you look at the one who is directly involved in a very
different way than the one who's indirectly so this is the first thing you look at. The second
second thing you look at is what is your intention? What is your own frame of mind and intention is
		

			your intention to get involved in something that is unethical criminal Haram is that the purpose of
your career is that the entire career is based around it. Actions are judged by intentions, or
you're trying to make something halal. And things are happening beyond your control. It's not your
intention is not your goal, it's not there. And no doubt. When you try to maintain your purity, and
you try your best to be as helpful as possible, then something happens that is how long it is very
different than getting involved in a career that is inherently how long and you know, it is how long
and you have no problems with it being how long so we also look at your knee as well as the second
		

			thing we look at. The third thing we look at is the quantity of this haram. So what if it's indirect
and it is not? And so we're going one by one, right? So there's five things Number one, it must be
indirect. Number two, it cannot be your intention. Number three, we also look at the quantity of
haram. And this is a very key factor, especially in minority situations. Whether the business you're
involved with is predominantly unethical, it is lying, it is cheating, it is stealing, or it is
incidentally, you know, how long from our perspective. So for example, you know, a question that
came to a number of security councils around the federal Council's around the globe is a Security
		

			Council because the question security the mind my mind was going to Security Security Guard is
saying that I have been hired to protect a building to wander around the building. And there's
shops, and one of them is a bank. There's an ATM with a bank attached to it right now. My job is
security. And I'm wandering around, you know, as a security guard, and there's clothes
manufacturing, there's shoes, you know, like any supermarket or mall and there's also a booth that
has the bank in it. My job is not just for the bank, it is for the entire shopping mall. And pretty
much all of the federal councils around the globe have said that, well this is not an intentional
		

			direct predominantly how to hum enterprise, your job overall is halal. And there's an element here
that definitely is not praiseworthy, because we don't like you know, you know, the banks are
involved in riba but your job is protection of civic order. It's not to defend the institution of
riba right, we look at what you're doing and that is even the bank is haram but it is also how long
to rob the bank just because the bank is doing haram. It doesn't mean that which is giving riba it
doesn't mean that it is permissible to then go and rob so if the security guard is being a generic,
you know, officer of the law and upholding civic security, well then overall, we shall overlook
		

			this. Also, I'm the ice cream factory owner by the way, what a great job to be a manager of an ice
cream factory. I have to say Brother, I'm kind of jealous of you in a positive way Halal way I love
ice cream. So I can only imagine Mashallah. The Perks of your job just you know, eating and taste
testing all day on ham didn't I? Mashallah, what a beautiful job there is Masha Allah so our brother
who runs an ice cream manufacturing plant, right, Mashallah. He's a manager. Let's say the company
hired him. He works his way up and Michelle
		

			Now he is the, the manager of the factory. Now he is saying, I mean ice cream hamdulillah the bulk
of ice cream is * Alhamdulillah. Right 99% or 95% of the flavors of his company are hella, but
there might be one flavor that has added, let's say rum, right? So they add some containers of rum
into a vast, you know, amount of alcohol of sorry about ice cream. For us, that flavor would not be
allowed. I've given longer lectures about you know, having quantities of alcohol and you can listen
to that. But there's no question that when you add alcohol as a flavor to a food, and you want to
taste that flavor, that that is how long you add rum, or whiskey or brandy or any type of you know,
		

			alcoholic drink with the intention of the taste remaining, there is no question that that final
substance is held on for us to eat or drink. But now this person is emailing and saying that he is
the manager of a factory that is producing the ice cream. And understandably, the bulk of his ice
cream is completely halal. But as the manager, he has to sign away all of the you know, the the
import and export what's coming in what's coming out and he's overseeing and one element, one of the
vats out of hundreds of VAT is going to have the you know, alcohol in it. So we look at now the
quantity and whether it is predominantly highlight or whether it is incidental, and the photo of
		

			Amgen. And most of it, in fact, I do not know of any Federal Council that has given anything to the
contrary, that when there is a small amount of how long like this case over here, then we cannot say
that the entire job is how long he tries his best to get out of being directly involved. But
overall, he is the manager and there's going to be some level of involvement, he cannot just walk
away from everything to do with that he's going to sign the sheets, at the end of the day, he's
gonna, you know, make sure that everything is happening. So no doubt that that element is definitely
not good. But his entire job cannot be made how long simply because one of the flavors of one of the
		

			ice creams has a percentage of alcohol in it. So this we can say the same applies to the Uber
driver, right, or the Uber Eats driver. So the Uber driver, even the Uber driver, let's say, the
Uber driver, he is taking passengers, and sometimes the passengers are carrying alcohol with them.
So he is helping and transporting alcohol. But here's the point, not only is not that was not his so
go back to all three of these, right. So here we have actually in this case, he is directly
involved, but it is no intention, he didn't sign up to transport alcohol. And then it is something
that is incidental, and the quantity is miniscule. out of 20 passengers a day, maybe one of them
		

			might be carrying alcohol, and he doesn't even know about it. So it's neither his intention. And it
is also a negligible amount. That being the case, the fact we're given is that it is overlooked
because he's T didn't. So here's the point, if he signed up to be a truck driver for Budweiser, the
Budweiser is the Beer Company of America for those that are watching outside of America. So if he
signed up to be a truck driver for Budweiser that is completely haram, but he is now an Uber driver
or an Uber Eats and an Uber Eats, he's going to be delivering maybe 50 packages of food, right, the
bulk of the food packages are not going to have alcohol in them, maybe one or two are going to, but
		

			he is signing up to be just the delivery man. And his goal is not to deliver haram and alcohol, his
goal is just to be the delivery and to gain some money in this regard. So once again, I'm Jen others
have given the fatwa that we overlook a negligible amount here, it's a small amount, it's not his
primary thing. It's a incidental it is not Matsuda it's not intended and it is something that is
trivial. And so that which is incidental, does not take the same ruling as that which is directed
intended. And that which is small quantity does not take the same ruling as that which is the
predominant quantity. So this is the third thing that we look at. So the first thing we said is that
		

			we look at whether it's direct or indirect. The second thing we look at your intention, what is
exactly your intention in doing your job. And number three, we look at the quantity number four
another thing we look at so one of our brothers emailed in the initial email he asked
		

			that, you know, they're, you know, basically to be again to be very explicit here, they're kind of
fudging the numbers for the IRS or whatever, that they're making some things more or less for, and
he feels guilty like why am I involved in all of this? So
		

			and again, there's no question that you know, we have to be ethical as Muslims, there's no question
that as Muslims, we raise the bar and everything should be legit and 100% at the same time when an
entire industry is doing something that everybody knows it's kind of an open secret, you know, the
shady answers, mammoth be hillbillies, everybody's doing it. Then once again this shitty I will be a
little bit more lacks here. So for example, I mean, you know,
		

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			is known overall to do something that is not in the best. Following the technical letter of the law,
I mean, I'll give you an example, I had a friend, you know, in the fish business fish industry, and
you know, they have a whole bunch of laws about the length of the fish and the age or I don't know
what I don't know, all of these things are not. And it's well known, he said to me that, you know,
they have an 18 inch or 20 inch, or whatever it might be, if it's an half an inch or more, everybody
knows, you're not going to be that, you know, pedantic or that accurate, that nobody is going to
make a big deal. If we just overlook it. You know, the point is that, and again, I'm being very
		

			clear here, obviously, we want to obey every single rule as much as possible, at the same time when
something like this becomes the norm in an industry, right? So you're saying that in your industry,
or whatever it is, for I don't understand for whatever purposes, they, you know, increase the weight
of the, you know, the package or whatever, to get some, you know, whatever it might be, you're not
involved, you're saying you're doing your job in the office, but you know, that portions of the
company are doing things that are in that gray area. So here, once again, we say, actually, in this
case, you are not directly involved. In this case, it is not even your intention to do that. And
		

			also, in this case, it is something that your company, or whatever it is, it's doing something that
it should not do. But apparently, this is the norm in that particular industry that everybody knows
that goes on, and they kind of sorta turn a blind eye, nobody really gets penalized for, for doing
it. So for you to do your halaal job in your cubicle, and your company's doing something outside of
your area, and you're not directly involved with you cannot and nobody can say your job becomes
haram, because of something the company's doing that is unethical, you obviously should not get
involved in that, but to what level of cooperation. So by the way, for example, not directly
		

			related, but it is still directly related, you know, some of these more, you know, radical militant
groups, right, they would justify, you know, the mass, you know, a murder of entire populations, and
even the tech feet of Muslims living in non Muslim lands, they would say, You guys aren't Muslim,
they would say to us, this is 10 years ago, and all of these these movements were going on, they
would say to us, you know, you're not Muslim. Why, what have we done? We're praying Salam
Hamdulillah, Quran tahajjud por ser everything. Why are we not Muslim? Because you're living in a
land that has done haram, and has invaded and has plundered and pillaged, and you're giving taxes to
		

			them. And Allah says, do not help in any transgression, transgression, and what not? So notice here,
if you were to take this rule to that level, your existence on earth is aiding and abetting some
type of injustice, right? It can be also flipped or honus, saying, well, you're buying and selling
products that are indirectly supporting the system, you cannot be completely disconnected from human
society. And at some level, something can be extrapolated, where you're buying and selling to
somebody who's then helping somebody who's doing something to somebody who's doing a haram, you
cannot consider an nth degree of separation to make your actual job haram just because you live in
		

			America or live in a western land that might be doing something militarily your existence does it
become our own brothers and sisters, your your entire job and career does not become haram. So we
have to also see, you know, the level of distance between you and this hold on how prevalent is it?
Is it something that is generic and everybody so by the way, here, in the Hadith, the prophet system
said, Whoever enters in upon the volume and helps him is is sinful. However, the entire country of
that volume is somehow tacitly in the end of the day, you know, giving their taxes to him, allowing
him to exist, the profitsystem did not say the whole country is going to *, the whole country is
		

			jahannam. No, because there's levels of cooperation levels of distancing yourself from voting, and
the one who enters into the palace willingly knowingly wanting to help believing the lies,
supporting the ruler in the womb, cannot be compared to the peasant who's giving the taxes to this
tyrannical ruler, and he cannot do anything about that. And so this idea is actually an evidence
against those radical groups that the prophets or some only criticize the one who walks into the
palace and butters up, the ruler gets involved as entourage that is helping in evil, you cannot take
the entire, you know, US population and say you're all leaving the fold of Islam because of this. So
		

			that's another point we look at. And then the final point that we'll also look to the fifth point
will say is what are the alternatives? And is this your only source of income, ie how necessary is
this source of income for you and are there alternatives? So we also look at that aspect as well
because as the shehryar says, are borrowed or to do because they have that those that are in dire
need situations that have lower? You look at the data or you look at the the directness of the
situation, and you change the fatwa based upon that, so the person who's living on the streets, and
the only job he has is to be in the supermarket and to
		

			You know, be at the grocery store, and in the grocery store, they will sell pork and they will sell
alcohol, we will say to this person, there's no doubt that the default is your job should not be
done. But you're living on the streets, for example, you're not being able to pay your rent, okay?
In the meantime, do this job, and then make dua to Allah and try to find a high level job. So we'll
give a temporary constant concession, because the person has no alternative. So we look at the fifth
point as well. And that is how needed is this job versus, for example, a teenager who is living in a
comfortable upper middle class home, he just wants some money to, you know, purchase the latest ps4
		

			or Xbox or, you know, iPad or iPhone, or whatever the latest gadget is, and his parents say, yeah,
go ahead and find a job. And you know, we're fine with that. This teenager who doesn't need money to
pay rent, we would say to him, No way, you're going to be bagging, how long you're going to be
selling alcohol? And even if the grocery store has 90% halal, but the alcohol is or why would you do
that you don't need the money, go find a job that is, you know, not selling alcohol, because selling
alcohol is obviously you're picking up the bottle and you're scanning it and you're selling it.
Clearly, that's not something that God wants you to do. So all of these five points will be looked
		

			at and look yourself to your brother or your sister and your corporation in your career and try your
best to minimize and in the end of the day factor Allah Mr. Thought, don't fear Allah as much as you
can be reasonable, Don't be unreasonable, and understand the difference between intending haram and
the predominant career that is held on and aiding and abetting haram directly versus distancing
yourself and something happening in your vicinity. In your corporation, you're not exactly involved
with it, your job itself is held out there's many factors to look at. And if we were to go to the
nth degree, then in reality, every single one of our lives basically in the entire world, we can
		

			extrapolate something is happening that we're doing, aiding and abetting to the nth degree something
how long the Shetty has not unreasonable, fear Allah as much as you can be reasonable. Ask the
scholars of your locality and ask the other people in your field as well about your concerns and see
what they say. Generally speaking, as we said, miniscule amounts of incidental and unintentional
		

			things that are not allowed in the Sharia shall be overlooked as long as the bulk of your career is
halal. And you're doing that which is highlighted you're being paid for that which is headed then
for double Lahoma So Tom, and may Allah subhanho wa Taala make it easy for all of us to earn a *
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