Crucial Conversations on Race
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Crucial Conversations on Race
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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen
wa Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah he was early, he was happy he was seldom at the Sleeman kathira My bad. So on behalf of the North Texas imams Council, I management ina jackal from the Islamic association of North Texas, we welcome each and every one of you to this very, very important presentation that we're having tonight crucial conversations on race, a conversation with Dallas Muslim leaders. And just so you have an idea. The the whole reason behind this is that as the Imams from the men's Council, and there's over 40 of us from between Dallas through Fort Worth,
we're talking about what's happening and the issue at hand is bluntly put police brutality and the systemic endorsement or turning a blind eye in a deaf ear to what is happening through government entities with regards to African Americans or anybody of color for that matter, but especially what we see happening to African Americans, the Imams who are naturally the inheritors of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam we love our people and our Jamaat our congregation, the majority of them are people of color, we feel what it is of pain that is happening we understand that there is tremendous concern within our community for what's going on. And therefore the need is there for us
to come forward and to be a voice and being the light on the law that inspires us tonight so that we can be a voice of inspiration, a voice of wisdom, a voice that guides insha Allah tala towards women to be best so that we have clarity during these times of turmoil and have trouble for tonight's program inshallah. So again, we are going to have five of our dear presenters and they are in hamdulillah all local scholars, I will inshallah tada begin by introducing each one of them as well as their topic, and they will inshallah, who has the agenda, enlighten us with what the lockwise agenda inspires them with. And before we begin, we just want to say just welcome located on to every
one of you that's taking precious time out of your lives to to join us on this, as well as to everyone who has helped make this happen. And for that we have a special shout out to digital learning partners, our dear brother in Ron Allah for making all of this happen and everyone else was with him a lot wiser did bless you and accept you as a whole a local man. I mean, so tonight as our first presenter we have our dear beloved demon haunted Shaheed, who was born in 1952 in Jackson, Mississippi, and hamdulillah he reverted to Islam 47 years ago, that's probably more than most of our us having lived our ages. So Allah hamdulillah has pushed him to be a Muslim for a very long
time. He's been married for 47 years to Mashallah. He has a Bachelor's from the University of Southern Mississippi. He completed the match training program at zayde house of Islamic culture in the United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi, and he was a student of the late leader Imam worthy Mohammed May Allah azza wa jal grant and mercy and be pleased with him Allah who I mean, he has been the resident Imam of Dallas, Mr. Al Islam since 2003 msgid that is so important within the Dallas Fort Worth area, a mixture that if you had not been there, you need to go and make sure that if you have not had the chance to support please do so Nikola Tesla tonight is an opportunity for you to do so. And
that hamdulillah he is blessed with being able to retire from that position to summer and he will become the Imam Emeritus inshallah Wesleyan. his presentation tonight will focus on some real life experiences from the 60s and how that also led into what we have of issues of white supremacy. So without further ado, we welcome you mmm Khalid Shaheed Bismillah
Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa Salatu was Salam ala nabina Muhammad and 71 tasneem. So they come to LA brings the love without mentioning Islam, which is the oldest mosque in Dallas area. We're here to discuss some very critical issues tonight. From the outcome in our community for technological task.
The country is hurting, we all are hurting in light of the recent killing of innocent people.
Very horrific killings of innocent people. Those things that I knew
sale cameras and cell phones are new.
Those trials have been taking place last one two years.
Last one years we've been burned at the stake as a people burnin state. We've been bombed.
We've been drowned. We've been shot.
We've been home.
These recent tragedies remind me of the pain and agony I had. During the sixth grade Mississippi. I knew to every family member I was engaged in registering people to vote, he was shot in his driveway. When ambulance came to pick him up. It wouldn't pick him up when taken to the hospital. He's black when they wouldn't come to his house, first of all, to the neighborhood, neighbor to the hospital. They will not treat him because he is an African American first. He was still alive. He went to America. I remember that. I remember Brendan Damon's family. I went to school with some of these children. They planted a bomb in his house and blew their house up.
I remember Jackson State University there in Jackson, where the racists came out to Jackson State University. There was a peaceful protest among students there. They came out with live ammunition and blue hose. The only buildings here with live ammunition they shot 14 students on diabetic. I remember the organization I was part of there in Jackson lab. I was 18 years old. They came one day with a tank top pick one officer
surrounded the headquarters with 200 troopers. I remember I've been pulled over twice I've never done anything illegal I always call myself.
Lean and clean lines are never been pulled over twice by them. They're in Jackson signal. I was very young. And guns pardon me by these races with absolutely no reason I've never been in prison never did anything illegal.
I know my mother telling us her children repeatedly with anguish over and over again. How her brother our uncle, our youngest brother was killed at the hands of Jackson police. He was shocked because he was too close up. All by swimming pool. It was white women swimming pool. And white women have been says and police. We know white women don't lie.
I remember the horrific conditions of segregation there. I remember been taught about hate there. Remember surgery at school of surgery neighborhood safer healthcare there.
We're here to talk about what I believe is the culprit of these things.
Dr. Shannon Jackson does a beautiful analogy. He talks about the elephant.
He says that. And he says that this comes from Africa. He says that we see the elephant in the curses shadows. I believe when we talk about
police brutality with person, the shadow, not that we shouldn't challenge these things we should I believe that we're talking about the the sinful systemic racism we have in this country. Just started with Kristin Shively, we talked about the systemic inequality and health care that goes back three and four years with Kirsten shadow. I believe that we talked about the systemic poverty we have in this country. Kirsten, shall you realize that when America was blowing westward,
from the 13 colonies going westward, they gave white people land grants, and the government taught them how to farm.
African American blacks was a massive pain in 1865. And so what we received nothing. We had no shoes, no clothes, no homes, no school, no education, no money, nowhere to go. Millions of us. For these things are cursing the shadow of an elephant. What is the elephant?
The elephant in my humble opinion and six eight years I've been on earth and I said is everything the elephant is white supremacy? Was Bice apparent white supremacy is a subliminal belief system. This is a belief system that degrades human faculties is the belief system that
subliminal for most cases have been. The greatest human factor is it tells people that that black people in other races, but particularly African Americans have been below and beneath white people in terms of value in terms of work worth.
It tells people that we're not entirely the same dignity scientists that does when a white policeman encounters a black person. He doesn't see him because his faculties have been degraded by white supremacy, which is like a virus. This create a worldwide pandemic, centuries and centuries old. So when a white policeman sees a black person, he didn't see him with the same respect and dignity and he sees a white person.
We say this is subliminal in most cases. It starts when
the ages of children. Dr. Clock did a study in 1947 with three black children to dog had a black and white dog. And these three black children very young, two and three years old. He has them showing the dog is pretty
sure it is beautiful. showing it on a smart show 99 each time these black children would choose the wet dog. These are shut down is ugly. shut out as dumb. Shut it down. Let's mean Easton is black children would choose a dog that looks like them. So I'm sending subliminal and degrades the fabric to the human being that's why screaming
in most cases, some subliminal.
This test is called the daughters of done again. 2005 just about same results. And recently, Anderson Cooper on CNN he did a report on a recent study done that has some similar results.
This is testing done in Italy this Dom test similar results in engineering. I believe that this test was done in South America Africa Middle East Europe anyway where we had the same results we call Western civilization copyright. I'm not dissing Western civilization's trying to explain what's in the world. It transported with it white supremacy.
That explains why when I was in school and Abu Dhabi walked off campus, our streets and neighborhoods still very small so like a 711 winning and still I was dismayed to see shells of skin bleaching cream. Can you imagine going to a certain level you see shells and skin bleaching cream. I was just laying and just shocked to see that.
And I went to some of the big box stores or a big box stores like Walmart called powerful over there. Go on there you see the same thing shells of skin bleaching cream because for white supremacist subliminal they believe that white skin is superior is the same as the doll chest. That explains why magazines that just came out years ago and pass on when you see a Muslim magazine Muslim African camera years ago in the background magazine, they will always have matrimonial ads people looking for a spouse, they will most cases they will say they want some fast skin that because they believe white skin was a period of spouses for our skin. That explains why they go
decade go ahead subscribing for this magazine call on Juma.
Arthur had this particular issue was on shape time. And at the very end of this awkward game. He said if it was if it was forgiving, do a visual depiction of shaytan said that this picture would look like a black man, black man with dark skin. Stop the law. I immediately call the writer and editor and shoot them out.
They apologize. We made a man's
calls a white supremacist white screen so subliminal. That explains why in 2016 went to a Muslim convention in Baltimore, Maryland in 2016. And Dr. Omar Simone was there and we talked about this then there was this lady that was there. And she had become hysterical because she just left one session your metabolic come to another session there. And when she came and said she was hysterical, and she was shouting him cry. And she said that she's shadow cracker. She said she had just left that measurement session where they referenced skin color is a Muslim condition in 2016 Can you believe that? And 2016
almost at a Muslim dimension.
Christians don't do things like that. You wouldn't have found that a Christian convention 2016 that was there because white supremacy is a belief system and Locke is it is subliminal and to grace, the fact that human beings
white supremacy worldwide, worldwide. So why isn't Western civilization covered the root word a transcript of white supremacy is worldwide, worldwide. Now that explains it. And as Muslim we have to understand we have to admit and understand
when we're not immune, the same problem we have in Britain society exists within Muslim society. This is a worldwide problem a worldwide pandemic white supremacy
I think the greatest icon is white supremacy is is Jesus the picture the white picture of Jesus, they claim to be Jesus like picture. Can you imagine people dark skinned people's American own world? Look into this picture of this man and figure this man is God or the Son of God who doesn't like them at all, but it looks like personally.
them can be an enemy of racist and slay them or whatever.
it degrades the opposite of human being. Can you imagine a white person seeing his image of a centuries of white man
looking just like the bigger this man, it's God of Son of God. It looks just like them. it degrades their faculties as well.
In 2018, was at this church in Birmingham, the same church where these three black girls was bombed back in the 60s, Dr. Almost Sumo was to go there. And it shouldn't go to the church. And then it says down since we're in the sanctuary, and we talk and he talks about racism and race problems, stuff like that, on the walls of the church, and you believe they had an image of a white Jesus on that wall of that church that was bombed by the racist. The pastor was not there that day. A week later, I got home I call the pastor, would you believe he descended that heaven in his own world? it degrades their sovereignty as a human being as twice as often subliminally. So hummed along, glad
we're taking this opportunity to address these crucial issues. And we have to realize
that as a community, we are not immune to these things, we have to admit that these things have been a problem of us as well. And the good thing is that humbler aukerman gives us measures to mitigate white supremacy in these issues. So Hello, thank you so much, my salon
zocalo Hayden, mm Khalid, that was truly powerful and deep. And I really hope that all of us who as we're listening, we try to personalize that not take it just as a story that somebody is telling. But to really try imagine being in their shoes, that you're the one who's having to deal with that. And especially seeing this as somebody like myself, who is not colored, I am Caucasian,
to really be able to understand because like, in my case, again, the majority of my gym are the majority of my congregation is colored. I love them. I've been with them ever since. And I know that as Muslims of Hamdulillah, we sometimes have the issue of our religion that we can sometimes be discriminated against, but then we also have this issue of our color. And unfortunately, sometimes even internally as as you so well stated it that there is and there can be these aspects, even within and we ask that the law has helped us as a whole alone.
Most people are good people. Yes.
Absolutely. I want to go ahead and introduce for to introduce our second presenter and it is our dear sister who said the Fatima lead, and she is an instructor at column. She teaches that the seminary as well as online at column connect and the sisters retreat. And at the faith intensive she is a teacher at the roots community space. Was there the Fatima graduated from Kennesaw State University with a bachelor's in psychology. She then went on to graduate from the Lamia program at column seminary, born and raised from Atlanta, Georgia, and hamdulillah. She continues to serve her community as a teacher at the Roswell community messaging. Her presentation tonight will inshallah
be Assam's response to racism and guidelines from the Sierra that we should implement in our communities to help cleanse our communities of racism without the Fatima without further ado, Bismillah Samaniego, Rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh who rubbish roughly somebody away so they look at a terminal the Sony yeska who Callie Robbie's with me Mr. Rob basically Mr appeasing Emma, out Billahi min ash shaytani r Rajim in a la jolla mobile ugly Well, if sanwa ito corbion her and then fracture he will moon kariobangi yaizu Kumar, welcome to duck garden. And start off this presentation here today by saying that, you know, first and foremost like I stand with all of the people who are
facing the many different in justices throughout the world, all of our you know, African American brothers and sisters, one thing that I always like to do, especially when I'm addressing this particular subject of racism, and their conversations on race is, you know, myself actually being very clear about my personal, you know, ethnicity and background that I am of African descent. I like to be an American, young woman, Muslim woman. And I do share certain struggles that African Americans do face in this country, but I do not share their complete struggles that they face. And it's important for me in terms of my own identity, my own ethnicity, to acknowledge that and to make
sure that I you know, make that very clear that I do stand with our brothers and sisters that have been facing all of these in justices throughout the world. I've seen racial discrimination, racial racism and discrimination throughout my life and different aspects of my life. Whether it be you know, as a community member where you are standing up in the machine and people refuse to pray next to you or, you know, there are kids who are playing inside of the machine and all the other kids went
Be yelled at, but the kids who are black or have darker skin tone, there'll be yelled at and told, you need to calm down, you need to stop playing, you need to stop, you know, doing whatever you're doing, or whether it be being a student of knowledge. And, you know, I'm still on my journey was much different from a lot of people being at the institution that I studied that, but for a lot of people that I've come across a lot of African American people, a lot of black people who studied and become became students of knowledge, even in their spaces where something so sacred as the Islamic tradition, they've faced so much racism, so much discrimination, in the sense that different
comments being made like, Oh, you study Wow, that's kind of shocking as in like, I didn't know that black people study Islam, or they will get up to recite Quran and it's like, oh, wow, I didn't know you could recite Quran, you know, or Wow, you sound so good. You sound like an Arab, you sound like a daisy person. So all of these different types of discrimination and, and racist comments that sometimes seem like seem like compliments, but they're very much so not, you know, they're very much so not compliments, they're very much. So removing one skin color, you know, sometimes, even as a student of knowledge, sometimes you tell people, you know, I'm a student of knowledge, this is what
I do. I study Islam. And it's like, wow, while you're not like the others, what does that mean? What does it mean that you're not like the others? What does that What are you saying? What are you implying, and or, if a person is doing a good job in the community, and that person happens to be Black or African American, it's brought up as if like, that person's skin color is no longer seen is like, okay, I don't see color, I don't see that you're black, I don't see that you're African American, I don't see your skin color, I just see that you do you do a good job, when really the first time that that person walked through the doors of that machine, all everybody saw was color.
And now that I'm doing a good job, you don't see color anymore. And so these types of experiences are things that not only have I witnessed, but myself have experienced throughout the community. And now as someone who serves the community, in different capacities, it doesn't mean that the racism or the discrimination stops there, that there are times where people will walk you to the machine. And it's as if they don't recognize is as if people of color are taking up space, is that if people of color are not allowed to breed the same space that they're breathing, it's as if machines that are African American machines that are predominantly have a congregation of African Americans are not
worth visiting, unless it's for what's called charity work, or not worth donating to a less is called charity work that we can raise millions of dollars in other communities. But when it comes to the African American community, they don't need it. We don't need to go there. Don't take your children there that's that place is that. And these types of discriminate discriminatory talks, or sayings or things that happen are very, very much so prevalent in our world today. I am much younger than everybody who's on this panel. And these are my experiences that I've experienced in my lifetime. That means that it's happening right now, that means that kids that I deal with youth that
I talked to, they experienced racism in the mustard in their community in the place that's supposed to have their back every single day. As a student of knowledge when i was when i and I'm still studying, you know, I'm still really studying a lot. When I read through the art tradition. When I read through the different ideas of the process, or when I read through the Quran, it really shows me that our community is very, very much so disconnected from the tradition is very much feel disconnected from the tradition. And I say that because when we talk about the process, and we talk about the type of person that he was, you know, a last one Tada. He explains it so beautifully.
Let's want ourselves and sort of Toba, that Khadija Coronavirus, Unum and unphysical that a messenger has come from amongst you. Aziz, when I lay him out, I met Tim, how do you spell la Come with me in a row for him that you're suffering your hardships the things you go through, they distress him, but the process I'm had an immense amount of empathy and sympathy for the people in his congregation, for the people in his community. And last month, he says he is deeply concerned for you and and full of kindness role for him, Rahim that for all believers that the process was full of kindness and mercy towards the believers. And so the process was somebody who had extreme
empathy and sympathy for the people in his community that people were going through things and it was a reality it was a reality that people were discriminated discriminated against. It was a reality that people had hardships that they face, many different hardships and struggles, but the process I'm gonna just say that's your problem. You deal with it. He didn't say oh, you have a problem there is that people are discriminate against you that people don't discriminate against me. So that's fine. Like, at least I got I have other things to worry about. The process of sort of he made sure it
He was very empathetic and sympathetic towards people. And I asked us our community today, are we empathetic and sympathetic towards the people in our community? Do we put ourselves in their shoes and try to see what they're going through? Do we sit down with them and have conversations and see Oh, this is what somebody's struggling with. This is someone's background. This is someone, you know, story. How many people in your community Do you truly know? The second thing is that Islam believes in human rights, human dignity, and justice bound boundaryless justice. And we know this, because last month, I says, Look, I'm not ready, Adam, that he's, he's honored to get bestowed honor
upon the children of Adam, are part of all of human humankind. And justice is something that we as a community are always supposed to stand for. We are never supposed to stand with our oppressor oppressed oppressors. We're always supposed to stand with our press, we are always supposed to stand for the rights of people. And so the last thing is that the process, um, you know, he was of the creation tribe. And the process I'm in that in his, in his having been from the creation tribe, it was very much so that he wasn't a part of the minority in terms of that tribal situation. And we know that Mexicans were very tribal. But the problem is, most of them did not just say, Hey, I'm
going to hold on to my tribe of Kurdish, and those who are being discriminated against, I'm not going to, I'm not going to stand up with them. I'm not going to defend them, I'm not going to be there for them, that the process on couldn't care less that he was from the Qureshi tribe. It was about the human rights of people. It was about the fact that every single human being deserves dignity. Every single human being deserves respect. Every single human being deserves justice. They deserve to have a life. They deserve to be human. They deserve to be treated as humans. So I asked you all today, that what are you willing to sacrifice? What are you willing to sacrifice to stand up
for your brothers and sisters? Are you willing to educate yourself? Are you willing to donate and contribute money and resources? Are you really willing to sacrifice your own privilege, and I ended off my my presentation here with some observations from Malcolm X after when he went for Hajj. And I find this to be the most some of the most beautiful things to quote just because Malcolm X saw the true essence of Islam when he went to Hajj and I pray that we're able to return to that true essence. Malcolm X says that during the past 11 days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same place plate drunk from the same glass and slept on the same rug, while praying to the same God
with fellow Muslims. And these Muslims eyes were the bluest of blue and the hair, their hair what a blog is a blonde and skin, the widest of light, and in the same words, and in the actions, and in their deeds. I felt the same type of sincerity from them, that I felt amongst my blog, the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana, we truly are brothers because their belief in one God had removed white from their behavior and their attitude. And perhaps if White Americans could adopt the oneness of God, they can, they can accept the oneness of men. And so I asked you all as our community that maybe if we can accept the oneness of Allah truly accept our faith, truly accept our
oneness, I will lost $1 then we can accept the oneness of mankind and truly stand with our community and stand with our own stand with our brothers and sisters who are facing in justices every single day. So Chronicle locomobi handicare Nationale de la ilaha illa Anta nafdac Federica when a tubular Lake Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
zamolo hadeland so true and so powerful. And we do really Assa de la hora Bula alameen allow us as Muslims to truly relate to what the prophets Allah while he was selling the messenger of mercy, what he not just talked, but what he lived what he showed. And to continue on. We have next Dr. Omar Suleiman, who is the founder and president of European Institute for Islamic research, and he is the resident scholar of the Valley Ranch Islamic center. And he is going to help us better understand what's happening right now in Dallas with regards to what we have seen take place with regards to the murder of George Floyd. The last in among so many, I don't want to say the last but the most
recent amongst so many who have been the victim of brutality from those who have sworn an oath to protect and serve Bismillah Chicana
Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh
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inshallah tada in the few minutes that I have and you know last night I ended up going about 10 minutes over eight to 10 minutes over my time on a on a webinar because my computer froze up so check spending if I can't hear you just call me I'll know that that means stop. So
but I do want to think I want to thank the the IMA for convening this. I think it's crucial and I want it to have a specific Dallas
you know, framework because I think it's very important because our policing situation is not normal.
Between Dallas and Fort Worth, you had two people, a Tatiana Jefferson in Fort Worth, and both of them john in Dallas that were literally murdered in their homes. Both of them john while eating ice cream and watching Thursday Night Football when a woman you know, Amber Geiger walked into his home and officer walked into his home and shot him dead, claiming she thought it was another apartment or she thought it was her own apartment. And Tatiana Jefferson, who a wellness call was put because she had left the front door cracked open in the screen door there to let some fresh air come into the home. She shares her driveway with a Muslim, by the way in Fort Worth. And you know, the police shot
her dead, the officer shot her death through through her own bedroom window. While she was playing video games with her nephew. Since then, both of her parents have died. before the trial has even gotten legs, both of her parents have died. And the heartbreak of those parents has to be taken into consideration and the pain that they felt. In those moments. This is the place where Jordan Edwards was was murdered. Jordan Edwards, some of you might remember a 15 year old boy. And the way that he was shot by an Iraqi war that officer Roy Oliver in a disgusting way
really sparked tensions here in Dallas. And there's so many more names that don't get mentioned. But I think that it's important for us to understand Dallas is a particular place that there's a dynamic here that exists in Dallas. There's a dynamic in Texas, where you have a governor that if there was anyone that were to abide by the orders of the president to escalate things further, this would be the first governor to do so governor Abbott's.
We have a situation of the worst racialized poverty in America actually. So a lot of people don't talk about Dallas, they mean one particular Dallas. According to the Urban Institute, Dallas has the worst racialized poverty in America, worse than Chicago, worse than Detroit, racialized poverty. And so when you talk about Dallas, you're talking about your cut out of Dallas. And that's often not the experience of others. And South Dallas alone, by the way, is bigger than Atlanta. So, think about the swats of racialized poverty that we have here and the importance of us to really get acquainted with what we have. And I want to say this from the from the onset, we should not burden the people
that have faced discrimination both within the Muslim community and in society as a whole, to educate us and to convey to us their pain. Every single person that lives in the society should do what we ask others to do about global Muslim conflicts, and take the time to educate ourselves about what what systemic racism looks like in this country, what Jim Crow was and what the effects of it are today. And we're blessed to have that a lot of what I mean we have over 20% of our community 23 to 25% of our community is black and can educate us about that, that our two shining icons that are often plastered Mohammed Ali, and Malcolm X and Hajj America, Chavez and, of course, the
underappreciated legacy of modesty, Mohammed, may Allah have mercy on them all. We have opportunities to learn from our past, we have opportunities to learn from our presence, when we have someone like you, Mohammed, amongst us may last a long time to preserve him. And I'll say this, because it's important that we don't burden them with telling us how in pain, how much pain they have felt, I have never personally seen Imam Khalid more hurt and more angry than I did. And to in fact, this the only time I've ever seen him kind of upset, was 2016 at that convention, and it breaks my heart every time I think about it. I've never seen Imam Khalid upset. And we have to not
continue to perpetuate trauma and compound trauma in our community by by letting these things go and just brushing them under the rug and saying it's not a big deal. When it comes to policing in particular, the issue is one of state violence. Muslims sometimes speak in generalities and they immediately turn this into well not all officers are bad. Not all white people are bad. Not all
Not all black people are are bad, right? And then just becomes a thing about race. But I want us to think about this in terms of systemic racism. And what that means.
I want you to imagine if you're from India, and someone who has absolutely no education about what's happening with the Muslims in India right now are in Kashmir. And there's a story of a lynching that comes out from India. And the immediate response of the Muslim community as a whole is, well, not all Hindus are bad. And this is just one bad apple. And we need to think about, you know, beyond the lynching that India is greater than this, and we should we should immediately talk about peace initiatives between Hindus and Muslims. That's not the issue. The issue is that it's a that there's fascism in India, against the Muslim community, and so you have to name it properly. Palestinians
are particularly sensitive to this with Muslims, not within the Palestinian community are not understanding the Palestinian situation, turning the Palestinian conflict into the occupation of Palestine into an issue of Muslims and Jews. It's not a religious conflict. It's an occupation. Right? No one said that all Hindus were back. No one said that all Jews were bad. What we said is that there is fascism in India and occupation and apartheid, with the Palestinian brothers and sisters at the hands of the Israeli government. No one made that claim. And so while Yes, Muslim Hindu relations are important, Muslim Jewish relations are important as a whole, but that's not the
issue. And so when we're talking about policing, and we're talking about systemic racism, no one's making the claim that all white people are bad. No one's making the claim that all white people are hurting. I'm condensate here just now. But what is being said, is that the system is or traffics in white supremacy, and it always has, and that's everything from the police department, to the criminal justice system, to mass incarceration, to poverty, and how all of that functions as one unit to continue to suppress a population that had had medica Chavez Malcolm X Rahim Allah said, after hedge, after hedge, Malcolm said after hedge in the in the Oxford Union, that that America is
a country that is built and nourished on the castration of black people in America. That is what it is built upon. That's what it's nourished upon. So it's important for everyone to take a few moments to understand that. So what are some of the specific calls in Dallas right now you can follow Mothers Against police brutality, faith in action, as two examples top the Texas organizing project I gave you three. And I'll just mention one demand. That is the case that is both being discussed nationally right now, as well as here in Dallas, the qualified immunity act if you search that the effort to push for the end of qualified immunity because federally nationally, cops are protected by
the state, unable to continue to perpetuate this violence against black people here locally as well. There is a push to for the Dallas Police Department to be transparent about who's walking around with all of these violations. How many excessive how many for violations of use of excessive force exists on all these cops records. So there's specific calls I encourage you to follow Mothers Against police brutality, faith in action. And in life closing mom spending gave me two minutes. So in closing, I just want us to say that it's important for us to look deep within right now ourselves as a Muslim community.
If at Hajj medica Chavez, Malcolm X Rahim, Allah post Hajj was amongst us, we would be trying to silence him, some of us would be trying to silence him using his Hajj experience and trying to say, well, that's not that's not who you are anymore. Malcolm post, Hajj was still extremely critical of white supremacy, extremely critical of policing did not change his tune on white supremacy. But Malcolm Rahim Allah saw a different reality a potential reality for America. He didn't see that reality in America yet. And I encourage you to read Malcolm's letter to Dr. site, even on my blog, you could look that up. It's his last letter where he's upset with Muslims not understanding the
plight of black people in America not paying attention to the plight of black people in America. So we owe it to Malcolm to do with him. to not do with him what America has done with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. were literally people were pointing to the ridiculousness of people tweeting at Martin Luther King Junior's children about today, tweeting quotes out of context of Martin Luther King, against his own children to quiet them about the current situation. We can't do that with Malcolm. We owe it to listen to our pioneers in this country. Both those that have passed and those that exists in the presence of people like him. I'm happy to have you the whole lot. Tada. And may Allah
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which is aquilo hate and that was absolutely amazing. And I will second all of what you said certainly measured Islam and the work of what Misha del Islam has done, knowing that those great people, those great legends of America, Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali malata, Allah be pleased with them and grant them mercy, Eman, WD Mohammed malossi. I'd be pleased with them and grant the mercy that is the community and the work that they have done as Dr. yasir Qadhi will tell us in just a minute, it is really essential to all of us being here in America today. And as our next presenter, Dr. yasir Qadhi who is the resident scholar of East Plano Islamic Center, as well as the Dean of the
Islamic seminary of America. He's going to help us understand in a brief way, which is going to be difficult, but the history of immigration, and how the African Americans and this, the Muslims have them, as well as the non Muslims of them how they paved the way for later immigrants, who if you're not born and raised in this country from generations ago, your parents either came on a boat like mine, or flew on a plane. And it is really to the credit of what our brothers and sisters from the African American community what they have paid of a price in order for us to be here and to enjoy some of these fruits. So Dr. Yasser, please go ahead and share with us just like unlocator is that
Kamala Harris Milan hamdu Lillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah. Allah, Allah, he was so happy he won. Well, I'm a bad.
I have to say first and foremost that I'm here primarily as a listener, as a student. And as an observer, I was asked to come on. And really, the spotlight is deserving of others, far more qualified than us. I have a short amount of time, I'm just going to make some brief comments. And allow me to be very frank here, because the situation has reached unprecedented levels. And this is a turning point, not a potential turning point. This is a turning point in American history. Anybody who understands what is going on, this is unprecedented in the future, is unknown. At this stage, it could go either way. But our faith tells us to be optimistic and show a lot of data. So I want to
begin by pointing out a very blunt reality. And excuse me for offending some of us here that might be listening, most of us and I'm one of those we came to these lines or our forefathers came in search of the American dream. And the fact of the matter is that most of us and I know for ourselves, we did, we achieved that dream. We got out of situations back home, in which we lived impoverished lives, Allah subhana wa, tada blessed us through many factors, that we did increase our socio economic level that we did provide our children benefits that they would not have had back home. And what a lot of us, many of us, most of us, maybe even all of us, to a certain extent, don't
realize is that us living that American dream, and having achieved it, it has come at the experience of an American nightmare for another group of people, we would not be here living the American dream, we would not be here having the success that we have had, if it were not for the sacrifices, the brutality, that another segment of humanity faced, not for 30 4050 years that we have faced, but for over 400 years, and that is our African American brethren. And too many amongst us. And again, let me just state it as it is too many amongst us, we have this feeling that hey, you know, my dad came here and started earning, you know, from the bottom of my father came and my mother came and
they started working odd jobs, and they they, you know, made their way to where they are today. Well, then that means that if you work hard enough, then you can get anywhere and achieve this dream that this country promises us. And all of us have this feeling that hey, we've faced racism, I'm not white, I speak for myself that yes, there were minor incidents that occurred. So we have this sense of entitlement and arrogance that, hey, we did it. And you know, we know what it's like to face racism. And we feel as if we're qualified to then speak on behalf of peoples whom we have never fully understood. And I'm doing I'll be the first to say that, yes, I am still learning and I'm
still confessing my own ignorance to this reality. Dear immigrant Muslims and children of immigrant Muslims, stop fooling yourselves. We are privileged in our own ways, I'm not saying we're as privileged as others who came from from England and whatnot. Okay, that's a different level of privilege, but
Just like we all understand that there's something called white privilege, and people who have it don't understand it. I am saying very bluntly, we have immigrant they see privilege, and we don't see it. We have immigrant Arab privilege. And we don't see it. We have certain perks that come with being who we are, and with our backgrounds. And the first step in this conversation that we're having, and I especially address the immigrants of the children of immigrants is that we need to at least acknowledge and understand that privilege that we all have, and begin to empathize with the fact that we would not be here and have this privilege had it not been for those who paved the way
before us. And I want to especially emphasize two factors that I have found in my own experiences, to many of us, immigrants and children of immigrants. And those of us who, you know, we have this, quote unquote, immigrant privilege, too many of us do not understand, first and foremost, the history of Islam in this country. And that is something that again, I have given, you know, much more longer talks and others have given many talks about and the history of Islam in this country. Of course, we should all be aware, I think most of us vaguely know, but we haven't really done the research that Islam was a movement that was brought to you by the slaves, 30% of the slaves, they
came to this land, it is estimated up to around 20 to 30,000 people but 30% of the slaves in all likelihood, were of Muslim origin. And we have plenty of documented evidences of their efforts over here. The first time the event was called the first time the Quran was written the first time somebody lowered their head on this American soil on this part of the world. The first time that people fasted the month of Ramadan, we have plenty of journals that are still stored at the Smithsonian, we have copies of Maliki books, I've seen myself at the Smithsonian, we have copies of the Koran written down 200 years ago, from the slaves that were brought here. Now, obviously, they
were not able to preserve Islam, multi generation because of the brutality of slavery. But just imagine the first event that was called and the first time Joomla. And the first time you read, and there are again, we have references in the sapelo islands in the 1830s. EAD is being established, and there was an owner of slaves there who had a soft spot, and he allowed them to bake special cookies. So he writes this in his journal, that there's a special thing that they did we let them do this on their festival. So these are the people that laid the way for us. And it's because of their efforts that these movements that came about like the Nation of Islam, and like the, the temple of
Islam, and like the more science temple, all of these, you know, movements again, us, you know, immigrants were very dismissive of them, because of their bizarre theologies, and no doubt, their theologies are atypical. But you know, what, Allah will be their judge. I'm not condoning their theology, but they paved the way for Islam to become something of a household name, had it not been for those pseudo Islamic movements had it not been for those, you know, movements that did have some very bizarre theology, we would not have had Mohammed Ali, we would not have had Malcolm X, we would not have had Kareem Abdul Jabbar, we would not have had all of these galaxy of stars. Now, again,
this is not a justification, but it is a contextualize ation, we need to understand that those movements, they pave the way were it not for the efforts of Allah xojo blessing a man Why did the Mohammed truly a legend and the hero somebody that every single one of us we should be making regular to our for the bravery and the courage of this man to single handedly take the movement founded by his own father, and to then sacrifice at much personal cost of his own leadership and to and to maneuver slowly, but surely his movement so that they are now mainstream Muslims, what an amazing legendary person, and Subhanallah most of us have no clue as to what he did, and how he got
to where he did. So this is the first point that I want to encourage all of us to do. And the second is that we need to better educate ourselves about the actual plight of our African American Brethren, and not just our Muslim African Americans, overall, the African American community. And again, I'll be the first to say that every one of us is guilty in our own bubble. And I'll be very honest and blunt with you. I mean, I have read hundreds of articles, dozens of specialized books about Islam in America and whatnot. This is my area of expertise. Last year, the documentary came out 13th. And I thought, Yeah, what am I going to learn, I know all of this stuff. And I was just my
jaw was just down to my I mean, I could not believe what I was seeing. And again, I was, as usual ashamed of my own ignorance that I thought I knew all of these statistics. I thought I knew so much of this one simple documentary, and I want everybody to watch this. It's called the 13th or 13th. It's a very powerful documentary that demonstrates the social impediments the league
barriers that are placed upon African Americans that are not existent amongst other communities. And you know, when you look back at this era, and my time is up here, when you look back at this era, and this is one of my favorite episodes of this era, when the Prophet salallahu it he was sending them was preaching to the people of Mecca. And I would eat a banana mohito, the father of Harley Davidson, when he came to a booth audit and said, You know, I'm interested in Islam, and I kind of I'm sort of attracted, but I have one condition, and that is that I want to be loyal. And the people like to be loyal, to be taken out of the gathering when I come and listen, because I don't want
people to say that I am sitting with the likes of Bilal. And so he was interested in Islamic theology. And he wasn't a big fanatic of the idols he was he was okay about, you know, worshipping Allah and whatnot. But he was not happy with this clause of equality. And it is mentioned in our books of Sierra that potentially many people many of the Muslims potentially were willing to take that condition and Allah subhana wa tada revealed not one, not two, three verses in the Quran that are recited to this day, whatever kind of inner loading of animal and a lot of xojo says that
be with those who you're calling upon a little bit of what I shoot you to know what yo they're making dua to Allah morning and evening while I do it NACA and home and do not dare remove your eyes from them and go to another group of people. And Allah says this sort of thing and I'm Fatah through the home for takuna mental body mean, if you were to expel them, a lot is speaking to our prophets of the law where sentiment is singular. You are going to be from those who are doing injustice or who do business with Hannah law with a powerful, powerful statement about human equality. It is an uncompromised principle. We are all equally human. And our professor of law has sent him the books
of the Sierra mentioned with this I conclude when this verse came down, he physically stood up and he walked across, and he sat down with Bilaal and with others, and he said, My Lord has commanded me to be with you. Dear Muslims, Allah has commanded us to be with the oppressed against the oppressor. Allah has commanded us to help those that are fighting against injustice. This is our battle now. It's not about to love them versus No, it is our battle as Muslims and as Americans, I ask Allah subhana wa tada to allow us to do all that we can to help out in sha Allah who tada in this regard, I asked Allah subhana wa tada to forgive our shortcomings and sins, ask Allah to eliminate all of
this, this, this this Jai helia that might still be in our hearts and to make us one strong oma. And lastly, on behalf of, of really all of us here ask forgiveness to him I'm harder than others that we haven't done justice well law here we have not done justice, to your community to the masjid Subhana Allah, please brothers and sisters, donate whatever you can, you know, and I promise and shallow to either as soon as this virus is over, that I will also pay your Masjid a visit and learn from your wisdom and your experiences qumola head on Santa Monica warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu
Hello toddlers, except from all of us and forgive us all. Because when we really look at who our role model is the standard Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam would have to admit that we fall way short, especially when we see how he sallallahu alayhi wa sallam really focused on those who were the minority that disenfranchise the marginalized, those who he had the most to lose for siding with them and caring about them in the most that he would have probably gained with the people if he would have just ignored them and stayed among his higher upper classes. And yet with that, we see that a lot of will it mean was dictating to him what the right courses, we asked a lot how to truly
keep us guidance so that we can we can make that happen until our dying days a local man, I mean, our final presenter tonight is our beloved Sheikh Abdullah duro, who is the manager of the Islamic center of capelle, as well as the fellow and head of convert resources at yaqeen Institute. And he's going to be helping us by capitalizing on the concerns, fears and frustrations that we have as Muslims in America from being other eyes or discriminated against. And we know that this is especially the African American community knows that this is something that is not new, regardless of what they are man, woman, younger old. And with that we say shake up the left please go ahead and
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snarf Mohammed hamdulillah hidden behind me. So all of a sudden I'm about to come into being in Mohammed and while he was in my buddy, first day, I want to thank Allah subhanho wa Taala and thank all of you viewers, and thank all of the speakers here. We had this meeting I think two days ago. You know the North Texas, Texas mountains
Council. And the meeting was based on this, it was a severe concern on what do we do as people, you know, leaders and communities influencers, Muslims, human beings that care about this, these atrocious actions, not only this, but the fact that it's been going on, you know, within the past year, a couple of years just at this rate of, particularly police brutality, and with the acknowledgment of that justice lagging, or not even being given in ways that are very elementary to be very fair. So I want to thank all of the speakers here, I want to thank my Sharla You know, when we wanted to find out how to do this in the way that people could benefit, you know, the people that
individuals that made the flyer from Digital Learning partners and making this platform here for us and you know, texting them while we're even talking and just this the expedition of things happening, I really want to thank all the speakers and then also Shakespearian Dean, who said that he couldn't be a moderator but we see that he's very talented Mashallah with the Islamic association of North Texas, Mashallah Milla bless him in all of you.
As he mentioned here, I just want to touch on something you know, after Mashallah, you know, the sheoak. And Mashallah mentioning very important points, and I won't belabor the topic, but firstly, when I mentioned,
the struggles that we face as Muslims that we have faced and continuously are facing, with our different demographics, backgrounds, thoughts, etc, experiences, it's not to be little, the non African American demographic within the Muslim community, not at all. But at the same token, it's to address a reality that is nothing new. And that reality is, as was mentioned, is that African Americans have faced this discrimination stereotypes that we have faced post 911. I mean, many of us may have been may have been in before 911. But after 911, it was was a rude awakening for a lot of us. And let's be honest, if the tone of our skin color outside of the African American demographic
was something of a darker tone, we faced a little, a little something different than those of a lighter skin color, because it could be passed off as a certain nationality. And that's something that we have to embrace and accept. But that reality with that being the case, I wanted to start off that with that premise is that it's not to be little your reality, Muslims that are from you know, different parts of the world and that have come here, but it's to address that importance or reality. And I do want you to know, initially as sister false Maven mentioned, you know, myself, I come from a Ghanaian background, both of my parents came from Ghana, and then they went to my father
came to Arlington, Texas and obtained his degree in architecture, then brought his wife that could barely speak English. And their dream was a white picket fence, move to Houston started there, and what restaurant, you know, many, plenty of famous people. But then I grew up, as you know, the first second generation American, the first one that is of my two siblings, and I had the double life, you know, I was an African at home with the dashiki. But then when I would go out, I was a rapper, I was into hip hop, I was into that lifestyle heavy. So that was something that I lived in, that was my normal life. And then when Islam came into the picture, and by the way, being introduced to Islam,
through that, that realm of hip hop, that was a cultural element. And that was the lens in which I viewed and heard about Islam. It was through people talking about their struggles, their frustrations, and that was being given through that medium. And as we see, people relieve their stress through different mediums. So when we see the rhetoric of what's going on, you know, in Minneapolis in certain places, with property being destroyed, and we divert our conversation to that, yes, we understand, and I don't think we even need to continue and be labor on is the violation of someone's property wrong. And to say that Islam does not propagate that we don't need
to mention that and harp on that issue. That's what I tell myself. And I tell people, surprise Allah. They didn't just wake up wanting to do that, we have to look at the cause of that. And it's something as Shaykh Khalid alluded to beautifully. It's something systematic, as as Malcolm X, after Hajj mentioned, you know, the foundations of this country, we at least as Muslims need to continuously study and review that. That's what is important. And that's my urging my call is that there is a consistent means or effort to educate ourselves of the fastest growing demographic of converts in this country, which has always been and that's of African Americans. So we owe it to
ourselves, to educate ourselves about their reality in this country because they are the fabric of this country and seeing that how they embrace Islam. So when I told you that I was someone that embraced Islam, I came into Islam and I recognized even before becoming Muslim, they didn't, you know, the when the police would look at me, they didn't look at me as an African. They looked at me as a black man, as a young black man. And I was telling the
Earlier that during the meeting, my son asked if he could walk to Kroger. And I told him, not no but blank. No, you are not going to Kroger as a young African American male at this time, because I was hesitant based on his reality of what is taking place. After that. I sat them in a room, I play for them to beautiful, historic epic speech by the mayor of Atlanta, which was given and I implore all of you to watch. And then I play I asked him who if they knew who Rodney King was, none of them knew who Rodney King was, played, for them the video of rodney king. And at the end of the video, it showed that those police officers were acquitted. I stopped the video and I asked him, I told him,
this may be your reality.
What do you have to say about that? It's very important that we embrace the reality and we work off of that. And that does not mean it's going to be roses, we are going to have differences of opinion, we are going to say very ignorant statements as Sr 40 was mentioned. And I was nodding my head, because I went through every single quote she mentioned, Mashallah, your BOD is perfect. And all, every single quote that she mentioned, coming off the member or out of the masjid, people make statements that they don't even realize it may be normal to them, and they don't mean to be racist in front of your face. But due to the fact that they've been so influenced systematically, even
outside of America, in their countries, dare I even say what some of the cuisine at the names of the cuisine has elements of colorism and racism. And that's in every part of the world. So I think we as Muslims need to transcend that within each one of our nationalities in our our cultures and realize, you know, that as a last panel, Allah said, this may be very elementary to us. We've heard it on the mimbar many times, but there's a huge inshallah, there's not a huge gap between theoretical that theory and practice. And this is something that all of us right now are trying to exemplify this by not just limiting it to a lecture, but really, just as we say, with Ramadan. What about those 11
months that follow? What are you going to do, to educate yourself, and to help and contributing to alleviating this ignorance from yourself and for others around you? That is very, very important. And that is why this is something that without the shadow of a doubt, as I've seen on some WhatsApp groups, you know, people being concerned if they were Muslim or not, this is something that totally coincides with what is known as the mocassin of this idea, the Islamic objectives, and from that is preservation of life. Not only the Muslim life, but life in general, and anything that leads to the compromise, compromising the integrity of someone's life, it is upon upon the Muslim to stand up and
to do something, and at least at least, and I'll start here, because the prophets of Salaam even ended here. But I'll start here to at least hate within your heart. And that is the weakest of faith as a province of a law. It wasn't easy, but the best thing is to do as I've seen many, many Mashallah of us Muslims doing and to continue it is to at least share as you're sharing this video, it's something commendable to share this knowledge with people to share this reality, to share the the pain of even those people that are quote, unquote, looting, the pain, what led to it, to educate ourselves on that, instead of educating ourselves on the effect and looking at the demolished
target, which Yes, someone was oppressed. But guess what, the person that probably looted It was probably one of their relatives, that was a cashier there or someone that worked there. So yes, we understand that. Let's go beyond that. And look at the cause of that. That's what we need to be concentrating on, not in just this lecture. But beyond that, to question yourself, what and for me, starting with myself, and my young, 15 year old, 13 year old, 11 year old and four year old, African African American children,
educating them, watching these documentaries, watching what she has to mention 13th and many more than that, on your Netflix in your television, as soon as you get off, to educate ourselves about this reality that has been here long before many of you have been here. And again, it's not to blame. It's just to educate to make the effort. Because as I mentioned in one of the hopes that we had on on our Facebook book as Islamic center of Carrollton
of capelle. Is that upon a lot many times as I mentioned, you know, what we're seeing with the murderer is neck on on Mr. Floyd's murderers, neon, Mr. Floyd's neck. This is nothing new in these areas, seeing the police brutality. I face it myself before becoming Muslim. Many of you as Muslims have faced it. But just as we don't want to just ridicule those that throw stones. We shouldn't immediately ridicule those that do an action based off of our
festering anger that have a cultural, geographical political in devastate Islamic context. So please, I hope and I plead for you all to please get educated on this, let this be something that motivates you. But please do not stop tonight, tomorrow tag it is fine share it, but what are you going to do about it? That's what with whatever is in your power summit last month, Allah bless you all. Again, I want to thank you all for coming. I mean, last month, Allah make us of those that are adamant on educating ourselves and acting upon that education just come along
with Joseph Akuma, located on above law for all of you who are listening and inshallah tada sharing, I really hope that we take to heart what it really means for us to be integrated, especially as Muslims because I think all of this conversation is really an internal one. It's really something of an expression of our hurt, even our disappointments internally, as Muslims. So one thing that we have non Muslims who are out there who are going to maybe judge us who are going to discriminate against us, but when this is happening from people who are praying next to you from people who are saying, Go ahead doing that Elijah lusha, Mohammed Rasulullah, when we are going to be able to raise
$5 million to bury our dead, but he admitted that Islam is struggling to raise half of that, a third of that, for a center that has been so pivotal in downtown Dallas, for the work that they have been doing. Brothers and sisters as a whole, let us understand that we have an obligation from Allah Hoda. Bula limited share, in no way be frightened or to in any way fear what it means to share what we have of wealth, what we have of privilege, what we have of resources, what we have of connections, to understand that in sharing, we only grow, that in doing better and more for Allah Hooda Buddha Allah mean that we are only going to become dear and near to him. So the handle with
Allah so as we close them or close with this door, please understand that all of those calls to actions that have been given or not so that you become emotional. And, you know, just go ahead and act off in ways saying and doing that which is going to perhaps upset a lot rather to be passionate. and passionate means that you're going to have all of that zeal and all of that energy, but it's going to be directed by Allah Hoda. Bula really mean such that you're going to monitor your thoughts, your speech, your actions, so that all of it is going to be fruitful, all of it is going to be productive, and all of it is going to be pleasing and accepted by him. So behind Allah has we
concluded a bill I mean, we asked you a bill I mean, that you bestowed the best of goodness upon our beloved sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that you said as our guide, the most beautiful role model and as a mercy for all humanity, you Allah, we asked you to Allah Allah mean for the Imams of those who are in positions of religious leadership, your Allah truly guide us to be humbled and to be miniatures of him Salalah Why do you send them your love, he asked you to blindly mean that you truly purify from us from the Muslims what there is of racism what there is of prejudice with there is a discrimination towards each other and towards anyone as a whole. Allah we ask you to believe me that
you truly make our massages, our houses of worship, inclusive, you're allowed that we love each other realizing that you have created all of us in the most beautiful form your Allah that from the White is to the black issue, Allah we are all your creation. And the most honorable in the best of us is not based on skin color, nor tribe or anything else, but rather based on our piety, our love of you. And that is shown by our adherence to the messages of the law when you send them yellow, we ask it a bit lightly mean that you help us to be less critical of each other. Our hope is to be more constructivist than anything of what we do. Allah help us and guide us to be a tool for
reconciliation, a tool for all that is good your ability to guide us, keep us in our progeny guide until the end of days and blesses to be a source of guidance for others. Allah we ask you that you answer these prayers, as you alone are the one that we believe in and that we call to worship and you Allah that you do not reject it because of our shortcomings or deficiencies in our rebelliousness alone or better I mean, which is a qumola hater or something Allahu wa salam wa barik ala nabina Muhammad was Salam alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh