Waleed Basyouni – Is Saying Your Mother is Haram on Me a Divorce- Ask the

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The transcript describes a situation where a man committed a sinful act, but did not commit it. The woman committed it because she was divorced, and the man committed it because he wanted to avoid divorce. The woman committed it because she wanted to avoid divorce, but the man committed it because he wanted to avoid divorce.

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			Assalamu alaykum Shaykh Wa alaykum as-salam wa
		
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			rahmatullahi wa barakatuh How are you?
		
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			Alhamdulillah So, a brother approached me the other
		
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			day and he's asking about a situation he
		
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			got himself into.
		
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			He wanted something to happen and he chose
		
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			a way of enforcing it by saying to
		
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			his children, you know, your mother is haram
		
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			on me if you do this.
		
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			You know, like, tahram alayya ummukum idha fa
		
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			'altu kada.
		
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			He's asking, would that be considered as a
		
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			divorce or what should he do to remedy
		
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			the problem.
		
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			And what did the kids do it?
		
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			No, the kids did not do it.
		
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			The kids abstained from doing it because of
		
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			that statement.
		
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			Bismillah, alhamdulillah, wa salatu wa salam wa rahmatullahi
		
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			wa barakatuh First of all, he should not
		
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			do that.
		
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			You know, I think when people say my
		
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			wife is divorced or haram on me if
		
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			this, you do this or you don't do
		
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			that, that's not the best way to show
		
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			your respect and love and appreciation for marriage
		
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			and for your wife or your spouse.
		
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			You know, it's not worth it to make
		
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			the whole entire relationship in jeopardy or equal
		
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			to just one thing that you request.
		
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			Hey, clean the dishes, otherwise, you know, my
		
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			whole marriage is haram or like do this
		
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			or do that.
		
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			Or your mother is divorced if you do
		
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			this.
		
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			Don't eat with me.
		
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			Some people do stuff like that, unfortunately, in
		
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			some culture, which is kind of strange to
		
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			a lot of Western culture.
		
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			But such a statement is not correct.
		
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			And if he said that, then violated what
		
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			he made the promise over.
		
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			Like, let's say he said, she's haram on
		
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			me, OK, your wife, my wife is haram
		
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			or your mother is haram on me.
		
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			If I do that, then he did it.
		
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			Or if you do that, then they did
		
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			it.
		
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			That means he fulfilled the condition.
		
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			Yeah, the condition was fulfilled.
		
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			So in this case, what's the ruling?
		
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			Some scholars said that this is a divorce,
		
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			OK?
		
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			Some scholars said, no, it is not a
		
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			divorce.
		
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			Divorce is just a yameen, just like an
		
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			oath.
		
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			Like when you say, wallahi, I will do
		
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			that.
		
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			But he committed a sin because he made
		
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			an oath with other than Allah.
		
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			But it's still an oath.
		
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			He have to pay the penalty for it.
		
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			And the penalty for oath, as Allah subhanahu
		
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			wa ta'ala said, walak yu'akhidkum bima
		
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			aqadtumul ayman fa kaftaratuhu it'aamu ashrati masakin
		
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			You basically feed 10 miskeen, or to give
		
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			them a set of clothes, 10 of them.
		
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			If you can't, or to free a slave.
		
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			And if you can't, then you basically, you
		
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			fast three days.
		
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			So a lot of people think fasting three
		
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			days.
		
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			No, the first thing is to feed.
		
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			It's in order.
		
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			In order.
		
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			So to feed 10 a meal per day,
		
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			or you give them 10 poor people to
		
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			give them clothes, sets of clothes, either for
		
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			winter or summer.
		
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			Or basically, and if you can't do that,
		
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			there is tahir al-raqabah, which is not
		
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			something available today, freeing a slave.
		
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			But if you can't do that, you don't
		
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			have the mean to do that, you go
		
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			to the fasting three days.
		
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			So that will be the penalty for it.
		
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			According to those who said it is a
		
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			mean, it is an oath.
		
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			Some scholars said that became a zihar.
		
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			Wow, to that level.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			A zihar is a big issue here.
		
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			It's a main sin.
		
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			And the penalty for a zihar, a zihar
		
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			is when you say, you're like my mother,
		
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			haram on me to touch.
		
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			And if that's the case of zihar, according
		
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			to some of the ulama, the penalty for
		
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			that in order to go back, they have
		
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			to, he has to free a slave before
		
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			they touch one another.
		
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			And if you can't, which is not available
		
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			today, two consecutive months, 60 days straight.
		
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			And if you break it in the middle,
		
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			he start over again.
		
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			And before he touch her.
		
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			And if he can't, so he will feed
		
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			60 miskeen.
		
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			So that will be the penalty for that,
		
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			this is the border or the lines that
		
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			Allah has put for us.
		
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			And we should not cross it.
		
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			You should not cross to make the wife
		
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			that Allah made halal for you to say
		
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			it's haram on me.
		
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			So this is the opinion of Allah.
		
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			Some ulama said it's divorce if he intend
		
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			divorce.
		
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			And he intended this is divorce.
		
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			I asked and he said it was not.
		
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			And the opinion that I lean towards, because
		
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			in some cultures it's very common, what's the
		
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			choice of Shaykh al-Islam b.t.m.
		
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			when he said it's not considered a divorce.
		
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			Divorce only when he say I divorce you.
		
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			And she is divorce.
		
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			And in this case here, that basically he
		
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			just say if he break the promise, if
		
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			the condition fulfilled, he make the kaffarah of
		
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			yameen b.t.m. which is an oath
		
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			that he broke, which is as I said,
		
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			10 miskeens or feeding them or providing clothing
		
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			for them or clothing them or he cannot
		
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			fasting three days.
		
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			And b.t.m. said and if he
		
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			does the zihar, it's better.
		
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			Just to be in the safe side.
		
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			But insha'Allah, in this particular case, since
		
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			the condition are not fulfilled, nothing on him.
		
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			But he need to repent to Allah and
		
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			to control his tongue and not to say
		
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			things like this in the future.
		
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			May Allah protect all our families.