Waleed Basyouni – Is It Permissible To Travel Without a Mahram – Ask The Imam

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The speakers discuss guidelines and narratives related to traveling without a considerate exception, including the use of a pod or a car, and the safety of the environment. They stress the importance of learning to manage traveling in a safe and safe environment, particularly in regards to deays of safety and travel restrictions. The speakers emphasize the need for individuals to learn to manage travel in a safe and safe environment.

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			We have a question about women traveling without
		
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			a mahram and sometimes, you know, people who
		
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			need to go to Umrah and sometimes it's
		
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			just, you know, the husband is busy, the
		
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			son is busy and the woman just wants
		
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			to go on a vacation and she travels
		
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			without a mahram.
		
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			What are the guidelines and what is the
		
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			differentiation between these two situations that I mentioned?
		
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			Bismillah, alhamdulillah, salatu wa salamu ala alihi wa
		
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			sahbihi wa man walahu baad.
		
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			The Prophet, salallahu alaihi wa alihi wa salam,
		
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			said in this hadith sahih, it's absolutely authentic,
		
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			the Prophet said, la yahlul umraa tin tu'minu
		
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			billahi al-yawm al-akhir an tu'safira masirata
		
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			thalathi ayyam min ghayri, or thalathi ayyam min
		
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			ghayri mahram.
		
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			The hadith came that the Prophet, sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wa sallam, said that it's not allowed for
		
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			a woman who believes in Allah on the
		
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			Day of Judgment to travel without a mahram.
		
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			A mahram is a male, independent, some say
		
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			adult, you know, relative, that she's not allowed
		
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			to marry forever, uncle, and so forth.
		
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			So, she's not allowed to travel without a
		
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			mahram.
		
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			And the hadith is general, you know, any
		
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			woman, old, young, you know, healthy, not healthy,
		
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			this is general.
		
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			Also, the hadith is specifically mentioned three days,
		
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			so is that the destinations or the time,
		
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			for three days?
		
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			As a matter of fact, these three days
		
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			carry no meaning, because there is another narration
		
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			that said two days.
		
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			There is another two days or a distance
		
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			of two days of traveling.
		
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			And whatever you're going to travel in two
		
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			days, or that traveling takes you two days
		
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			to arrive in your destination, then Allah.
		
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			And one narration, one.
		
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			And all these narrations in Sahih Muslim, and
		
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			also Sahih Muslim there is another narration without
		
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			mentioning any days, is not allowed to travel,
		
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			period.
		
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			That's led the ulama to say that this
		
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			one day, two days, three days, is not
		
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			meant for itself.
		
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			And Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam only mentioned
		
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			this because he was asked about different destinations.
		
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			Some of these destinations take three days, some
		
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			of these take one day, sometimes he was
		
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			asked general questions.
		
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			Also, Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam was, you
		
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			know, mentioning it to different people because, you
		
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			know, it fits the person who is asking.
		
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			But it really have no, it's not a
		
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			condition.
		
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			This description is not a condition.
		
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			So that's why Nabi salallahu alayhi wa sallam
		
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			mentioned that, and he said, there is ijma,
		
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			there is agreement, like, between the majority of
		
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			the scholars that women are not allowed to
		
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			travel without mahram.
		
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			But ulama, rahim Allah, debated among themselves on
		
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			the following.
		
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			They said, what if some of them made
		
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			an exception to Hajj and Umrah?
		
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			And there's some of that, Malikiya, rahim Allah,
		
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			some of the Shafia.
		
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			They said if it's Hajj or Umrah, some
		
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			of the scholars among the Hanbal as well.
		
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			But Hanbal and Ahnaf is more strict about
		
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			this.
		
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			They said not allowed at all.
		
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			The opinion that in the Hanbali Madhab is
		
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			not allowed to travel for Hajj or Umrah
		
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			or any other without mahram.
		
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			Some other scholars said no, that it is
		
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			allowed for Hajj and Umrah.
		
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			And Hajj and Umrah, specifically, and one of
		
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			the evidence that they used that Aisha radiallahu
		
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			alayhi wa sallam, she traveled with Asma, her
		
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			sister, and at that time she didn't have
		
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			a mahram, Asma.
		
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			And Sahaba did not object to that, and
		
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			Aisha radiallahu alayhi wa sallam did that.
		
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			And they said the Hajj and Umrah is
		
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			wajib, and Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala ordered
		
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			us to atimul hajj wa umrah lillah.
		
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			So it's like going to the masjid, going
		
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			to the Hajj and Umrah, and it requires
		
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			traveling.
		
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			The others said no, it is not wajib
		
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			unless you have a mahram to travel with
		
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			you.
		
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			So, and other than Hajj and Umrah, you
		
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			will find the four madhab agree into it.
		
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			Ibn Taymiyyah rahimallah, and some fuqaha' among the
		
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			shafi'iyya and others as well, Ibn Taymiyyah
		
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			took the position that Hajj or Umrah or
		
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			any traveling that's considered ta'a, because the
		
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			fuqaha' made an exception for hijrah.
		
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			A new Muslim who live in somewhere, and
		
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			now she's going to travel to go to
		
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			a land where Muslims are, or community, they
		
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			said it's allowed.
		
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			Or in a case of, certain cases like
		
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			this, so very specific cases.
		
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			But to free herself, or to protect herself,
		
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			or you know, an abuse for example, and
		
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			she travel to save her life, they said
		
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			it's allowed.
		
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			Ibn Taymiyyah said, no, we can make an
		
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			analogy on Hajj and Umrah, to any kind
		
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			of traveling that's considered ta'a, like traveling
		
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			to seek knowledge, travel to see her parents,
		
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			anything that is considered a good deed.
		
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			And he leaned toward that, even without mahram.
		
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			But they said with the following conditions, even
		
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			with Hajj and Umrah, that is safe to
		
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			travel.
		
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			And if you look, and they said safe
		
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			by, even in their time, there is no
		
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			100% safety.
		
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			And some people today, oh there is no
		
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			safety, what if the airplane landed or something
		
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			happened to it?
		
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			Same thing, even in the old days, a
		
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			caravan would go out, there's nobody can guarantee
		
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			safety.
		
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			The risk is much higher in the old
		
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			days, but still the fuqaha said, safe, relatively
		
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			safe.
		
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			And today, definitely relatively safe.
		
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			Airport are a safe place, airplane are a
		
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			safe place, you know, nobody can harm somebody,
		
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			hurt somebody, or harass somebody, most of the
		
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			time, it is protected, you know, environment.
		
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			And anyway, also they said that her mahram,
		
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			wali, is okay with that.
		
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			It's not like I leave a sticky note
		
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			in my fridge, by the way, I left.
		
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			You know, it's just not how it works.
		
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			We live together, you know, I'm okay with
		
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			that.
		
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			It's not you're going to the market.
		
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			Yeah, I'm going for a week, by the
		
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			way, to Umrah.
		
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			You can't do that, you have to tell
		
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			your husband, tell your dad, your father, if
		
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			you're still living with him, and your mahram.
		
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			So that's number two, the second condition.
		
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			I think also one of the third, I
		
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			add this, actually, that she knows how to
		
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			travel.
		
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			Like I've seen some sisters that didn't know
		
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			how to travel.
		
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			They don't know how to manage traveling.
		
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			Those people are more at risk than someone,
		
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			like for example, she doesn't speak English at
		
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			all.
		
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			You know, this would be a problem for
		
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			her to travel, unless there is absolute need.
		
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			I would be more strict with someone like
		
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			that, than someone who knows how to manage,
		
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			how to handle themselves.
		
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			You know, that would be much easier in
		
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			this case.
		
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			So there is a need, and part of,
		
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			I would say, personally in today, also a
		
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			need can be added.
		
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			So Ibn Taymiyyah, he restricted it to ta
		
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			'a.
		
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			And among our sheikhs, Shaykh Abdul Razzaq Afif,
		
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			he also allowed it.
		
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			Shaykh Ibn Jibreel allowed it for ta'a,
		
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			for visiting relatives.
		
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			It's hard for me to take days off,
		
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			to take my wife, for example, all the
		
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			way to Pakistan, or to Egypt, you know.
		
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			But she wants to go visit her mom.
		
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			I want the kids in the summer to
		
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			go, but I don't have vacations.
		
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			I don't have days.
		
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			So in this case, they can travel and
		
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			come back.
		
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			But there is a need.
		
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			There is a need, and the need is
		
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			for them to learn deen, to be in
		
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			a Muslim country.
		
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			The need is for them to pray.
		
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			But it's not she's going on a cruise,
		
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			for example.
		
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			I'll come to this.
		
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			So you see all the ulama put it
		
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			in that category.
		
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			And some scholar put also a need, like
		
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			what?
		
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			Like work.
		
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			My work, it's a need.
		
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			It's required for me to travel, to a
		
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			conference, for example.
		
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			Also, my school, required for me to travel.
		
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			Or a need like, for example, this is
		
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			a seminar I want to go attend.
		
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			Even if it's not a religious seminar.
		
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			But I need that for my career, for
		
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			my work, for myself.
		
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			I need to learn something, you know, that's
		
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			important for me.
		
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			So that's also a need.
		
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			What if I go for a vacation, okay?
		
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			And I will go without mahram, say, blah,
		
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			blah, blah.
		
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			I believe you should not travel without mahram.
		
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			Unless in a very, very, very special like,
		
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			in a very special cases.
		
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			And at the end of the day, you
		
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			have to understand you're dealing with Allah subhanahu
		
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			wa ta'ala.
		
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			You're dealing with something that default is not
		
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			allowed.
		
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			And now you're breaking the rules.
		
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			You really, when you stand before Allah, you're
		
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			going to answer this question.
		
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			And you're ready to answer this question.
		
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			And I give you a real scenario.
		
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			Some sister told me.
		
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			They are in real depression.
		
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			Or they have a depression, okay?
		
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			And they want to travel to a friend
		
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			who lives in, let's say, in L.A.
		
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			and I live in Houston.
		
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			And I want to go spend a couple
		
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			of days there just to change my...
		
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			Would I consider this a need?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			And I consider this a need because there
		
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			is a need for the person also to
		
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			get out of that dark, you know, situation,
		
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			hardship, blah, blah, blah.
		
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			So that will be the people who say
		
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			there is a need.
		
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			We might have that room as well, but
		
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			each case judged by itself.
		
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			There is another group of scholars in modern
		
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			days, okay?
		
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			And I'm saying modern days and I mean
		
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			that because I don't know in the old
		
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			days somebody could give a blank check it
		
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			is allowed to travel without mahram.
		
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			But in modern days there is some scholars
		
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			said if it is safe and the one
		
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			is okay with that, she's allowed.
		
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			No need for the word need.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			They said she's allowed to travel.
		
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			As long as you fulfilled these...
		
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			These two conditions, safe and the mahram is
		
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			okay.
		
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			So she want to go, you know, have
		
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			a two days in a resort, for example,
		
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			in the Grand Canyon and it's safe there,
		
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			that's fine.
		
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			And among them Sheikh Yusuf Qardawi, he said
		
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			that.
		
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			But I'll tell you the truth, I don't
		
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			know base for this position in the traditional
		
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			books of fiqh.
		
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			Some of his argument, he said today traveling
		
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			and the environment is completely different than the
		
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			old days.
		
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			And also he said that's why Nabi Salaam
		
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			said in the end of the days woman
		
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			even will travel a great deal of distance,
		
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			fear only her, by herself and the sheep.
		
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			And he said the hadith talk about when
		
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			the environment change and there is safety, there
		
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			is the rule change.
		
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			Because again, traveling without mahram, it's not haram
		
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			for itself, it's for what can lead to.
		
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			It can be harm, it can be this.
		
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			That's why I said the case of need
		
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			allowed us for her to travel.
		
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			So I do believe that's an opinion by
		
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			a mufti.
		
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			I don't necessarily support that opinion.
		
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			But I saw I don't necessarily hold people
		
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			to the same standard of mine.
		
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			Like I have a family member who might
		
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			travel without mahram.
		
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			And I tell them my opinion.
		
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			But if they choose not to follow, it's
		
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			between them and Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
		
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			So I hope that give us a little
		
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			bit of understanding of the situation.
		
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			And I will end with one point that
		
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			a lot of people ask me about.
		
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			A school, my daughter got accepted in a
		
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			school in New York.
		
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			Hypothetically.
		
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			Yeah, hypothetically.
		
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			So if you're going to follow the rules
		
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			of traveling without mahram, you take her to
		
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			New York, for example.
		
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			Or you take her to Egypt.
		
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			She's going to stay in Egypt, or Morocco,
		
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			let's say.
		
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			You take her, then you come back.
		
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			Does she need a mahram while she's staying
		
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			in New York?
		
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			While she's staying in Egypt?
		
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			If there's a community.
		
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			There's no one in the four madhabs that
		
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			she has to.
		
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			Because there's a community, right?
		
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			It doesn't matter community.
		
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			It's a safe place, safe place.
		
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			So the rule is about the traveling.
		
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			But no one said that you're not allowed
		
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			to live in a place where your mahram
		
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			don't live.
		
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			That's not a rule.
		
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			That's not, at least as far as I
		
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			know, not exist in the books of the
		
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			book.
		
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			Or it's not the famous least opinion among
		
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			the four madhabs.
		
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			As I remember right now.
		
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			But they talk about the issue of traveling.
		
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			But when you arrive to that destination, all
		
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			what they require is this place to be
		
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			safe.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			And your mahram is okay with that.
		
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			That's a very good question.
		
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			A lot of people ask about that.
		
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			So she go to the dorm.
		
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			She go to live in a dorm.
		
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			You know what?
		
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			That's fine.
		
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			Even for me, she's allowed to travel by
		
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			herself as long as she knows how to
		
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			travel.
		
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			Because that's a need.
		
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			But if you even take the most strict
		
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			position.
		
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			And you take her there.
		
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			And you leave your daughter there.
		
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			You can come back.
		
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			You can come back.
		
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			That's also according to the, as far as
		
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			the fuqaha, it is allowed.
		
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			That's all I have in regard to this.
		
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			Thank you.