Tim Humble – Buloogh al-Maram – The Book of Zakah, Lesson 13 – Hadeeth 502

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The speakers discuss the loss of property and buried treasures in Islam, with the understanding that loss property is in the ground and due at a rate of 20%. The speakers emphasize the importance of finding and returning items from a period of time, including the possibility of losing property and the need for evidence. They also discuss the use of "roar," the ruling on finding and returning items from a period of time, and the importance of not advertising lost property during a year. The speakers emphasize the importance of learning to manage language and language models, as it is crucial for understanding the language and language models. They also mention the use of "we are in the dark" in the context of the discussion and the importance of researching issues and understanding them in order to find solutions.

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			There we go that's better.
		
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			Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala Abdullah he was a soli Nabina Muhammad were
either early he was happy he married. We are continuing our explanation of Kitab azekah from this
amazing book of Imam and having a hijabi escallonia Rahim Allah to Allah Allah Kamara
		
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			and we're in the last few Hadeeth of this chapter before we move on to a
		
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			second
		
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			part of the chapter or like a sub chapter, which deals with the capital capital. So before we deal
with the capital theatre, we have a few Hadeeth that we
		
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			need to finish. Our first Hadees is the Hadees of Abby hora, author of the Allahu anhu. Under
Rasulullah sallallahu it He will send them a call with a decaires ella Holmes.
		
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			motiva con la
		
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			the hydrator ebihara todo De La Hoya and the Messenger of Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said
that in recap as
		
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			rica's there is a fifth
		
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			and this hadith is agreed upon by Al Bukhari and Muslim. So first of all, we need to have a
understanding of what Greek has is, so rica's is effectively buried treasure. So we're talking about
gold and silver,
		
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			and so on, that are buried in the earth, and are later discovered or found in the earth. This is
what we talk about when we're talking about outcasts.
		
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			And our records can be divided so that we understand the issue into two parts.
		
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			On one side,
		
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			things where the ruling of recurs applies, and situations where it doesn't apply situations where it
applies and situations where it doesn't apply.
		
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			Where does it not apply?
		
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			If we think about this, we actually see that there is an overlap between records and something else
in the religion of Islam.
		
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			Does anyone have any ideas what the overlap might be? What is there that might? You found some
something buried in the ground you found a bag of golden coins buried in the ground
		
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			might clap be classed as buried treasure? But it might be classed as something else? What might it
be clusters?
		
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			Okay, excellent last property right. So in other words, we have records and we have lost property.
		
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			How do they differentiate between records and between lost
		
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			property?
		
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			First of all, the first definition they gave is that which relates to the time of Jay Hillier that
which relates to the time prior to Islam is all recurse
		
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			it's not lost property. That which relates to us Raja Haley is something which is found from the
time of Elijah Hillier.
		
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			Likewise, something which is found
		
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			in the land of the non Muslims
		
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			Which doesn't relate something which doesn't relate to the Muslims.
		
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			This is another thing they mentioned.
		
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			And a third thing they mentioned is that which is found outside in the desert plains or in the
countryside somewhere that is far away from where the people live. It's not inside the areas where
people live that it can be lost property, whether it is found, you know, buried deep in the ground
in the middle of
		
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			a plane, or something like that.
		
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			These come under recast. But in general, if you have a Kareena or an indication that this is lost
property, the ruling of recurs does not apply. Now we apply the ruling of lost property.
		
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			We apply the ruling of lost property in Islam we don't apply the ruling of buried treasure. So the
first thing we need to understand with buried treasure is we need to understand that is it buried
treasure? Or is it lost property? and effectively, we are looking for some indication that it's lost
property in which case we don't consider it to be buried treasure.
		
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			Some of the examples that I gave that you know that it's very treasure, they said macadam and acid
and yahaya what came from the time of the
		
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			before the coming of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam
		
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			that which is found in the land of the non Muslims. We're going to come to that in a moment
		
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			and that which is buried from their buried treasure.
		
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			And likewise, the third one is that which they give the example you find it you know, it is far away
from civilization and it's in the middle of the is in the middle of the ground.
		
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			And this is the issue of briquettes and mo Kodama
		
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			rahima hula hoop either in a movie,
		
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			he mentioned that this is a matter of edgemarc. The scholars unanimously agreed on buried treasure
that there is one fifth do they unanimously agreed when it comes to buried treasure, that the amount
due is one fifth, that is 20%.
		
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			Okay 20% is due on buried treasure. We understood what buried treasure is in nakodar him a lot
earlier he mentioned that it comes from the word Rick's which means a hidden something which is
hidden like a hidden voice or a whisper.
		
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			So it's that which is buried in the earth and hidden away inside the earth. And it is due at one
fifth 20%
		
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			or 20%.
		
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			Now the issue comes
		
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			is this 20% zakka.
		
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			I'll have a hijaab involucral marohn. He brought this Ankita bazooka chapter of Zika.
		
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			So it indicates as though I'll have 11 hijaab. is indicating that this is from the zecca. But when
we look in the books of Philip, we find that it is not unanimously agreed that Rick has buried
treasure is from the zecca. If it's not from the zecca, what might this 20% be? We know that the 20%
is paid that's agreed upon everyone agrees all the Medallia all the scholars of Islam agree that
when you find buried treasure 20% is paid to Betamax to the Muslim Treasury. But they disagreed? Is
it zeca? Or is it dot dot dot? What do we think might be the alternative? If it's not zakka?
		
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			Okay, they agreed you have to pay it. So you're right, like, but the word sadhaka when it becomes
obligatory is zakka. Right? So zakka is like an obligatory kind of sorta, what else might it be a
little bit of a tough one, you might not have come across this one. But it makes sense. Because in
reality, that's what it is.
		
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			Not quite, but you're getting close closer. It relates to
		
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			fighting with the non Muslims or it relates to
		
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			close, very close, you say to hi Nima. If you change that word, how NEMA is what you take from your
enemy on the battlefield. What is the other one that you don't take from your enemy on the
battlefield? What happens if you go to war with the people and on the way you find a big pile of
their stuff?
		
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			You're at war with them. You take it?
		
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			I say yeah, and say alfei is
		
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			The
		
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			the difference between the honeymoon and the fate, the difference between war booty and fe is that
war booty, you take it from your enemy on the battlefield, you fight with your enemy, you destroy
your enemy, you overcome your enemy, you take the war booty and you go home. Faith is what you come
across
		
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			without fighting
		
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			for that, oh, Jeff, I lay him hide in what I recap, you didn't
		
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			fight for it with any horses or any camels.
		
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			Yeah mirtha Allah, what Allah gave to his messenger, you found it, you came across it, but as they
saw it fe effectively is what you come across, usually in the context of fighting, that you didn't
actually fight your enemy and take it. But instead, you you found it in the process. So the army
marches when they enter the enemy's land, they find an abandoned base and abandoned fort. And it's
full of the enemy's things. So they take this is alfei. So why did they say might come under alfei?
What were the reasons for it? The first reason is they said that if we look at Zika
		
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			Zika, typically is how much
		
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			on well 2.5%. There are examples of 10%. There are examples of
		
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			when it comes to sheep, which is one sheep out of every 41 over one over 40. So when you look at
these numbers, none of them come near to 20%. So they said if it doesn't this is way way above the
normal rate of Zakah. So we know that alfei is a homeless is the is the fifth that's what is paid
for alfei. So they said we believe that this comes in that the second reason they said is they said
there is no nisab and that's by no means there is no different difference of opinion among the
scholars that there is no nisab in recurse there is no minimum threshold. So it's not like okay, I
found one gold coin or I found 1000 gold coins buried in the ground.
		
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			It doesn't make any difference. So they said zeca hazard nisab Zack as a minimum threshold, you have
to have how much gold did we say is the minimum threshold for gold? Who remembers in grams? How many
do we say
		
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			85 grams of gold. How much do we say in silver
		
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			595 silver is a bit more 85 grams of gold and 595 grams of silver
		
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			and so on.
		
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			We talked about camels we said the minimum number we talked about sheep there is a minimum number
		
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			as 40 because there is no minimum number so they said well if there is no nisab and the amount is
20% then it seems to be closer to alfei than it is to as the cap.
		
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			They also said that with recast there is no specific type of wealth. So when we talk about the cars
the cars do on gold the guys do on silver because you own currency is the card you on diamonds.
		
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			We don't have an evidence for it. Yes if you're buying and selling diamonds then it comes under old
at ijarah business it comes under a trade goods but the fact that you have on a ring let's say
there's a lady she has a ring with an expensive diamond in it. The gold is counted for the purpose
of Sakaba the diamond is not valued for the purpose of zeca as for records if you find a bag of bury
diamonds in the ground, you have to pay 20% on it so they said it also doesn't match zeca from the
point of view of the types of wealth because the cards are gold and on silver and on currency and so
on. We had categories of zeca sheep and camels and cow we had some categories and we had other
		
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			things there is no Zika jus upon
		
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			IE there is no as a kaiju upon it as an individual unless you buying an LSU trading in it unless
you're buying and selling it there is no there is no psychology. So they said rica's also is wider
than zecca so it seems closer to alfei the same ruling for alfei wherever you find them
		
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			The enemies, you pay one fifth of it, regardless of whether you found, you know, whatever you found
out that it doesn't matter.
		
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			So they mentioned
		
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			they mentioned this, but really it comes back to
		
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			the word of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, this is the reality.
		
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			It comes back to
		
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			what the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said,
		
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			when he said l Holmes
		
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			did he was he referring with this L to the Zika or not? That's what it really comes back to. And it
seems analyzer General's best, it seems,
		
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			it seems
		
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			analyze our generals best that it is closer to being from the fate and allies Magellan knows best.
But in any case, really, does it really matter to us massively. It doesn't matter to us too much
because the ruling is not disputed. The ruling is if you find buried treasure, then you pay 20% of
that buried treasure.
		
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			How do you know
		
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			if something was buried? Or if something came from the time of jelly or not? That's an interesting
question. How do you know that something? Is
		
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			you in a Muslim country and you find this buried objects? How do you know that it came from a time
before Islam? The scholars say you have to look for a Kareena you have to look for an evidence or an
indication. Like the coins could be like if you find a bag of Roman coins.
		
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			Yeah, you know that they didn't come from you know, they weren't printed last week, they weren't
minted last week, by the Treasury or the whatever it is who made the coins in the Royal Mint? They
didn't make them last week if you find a bag of Roman coins. So if you have a Kareena if you're not
sure, ultimately, whether it's lost property or not, what's the default?
		
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			Is it records? Or is it lost property? Is it buried treasure or lost property? What's the default?
If I find something? Well, it could be might not be
		
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			the default is lost property.
		
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			That's the default. The default is that it's lost property and you treat it as such. So what do you
do with lost property, we haven't really
		
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			talked about it too much.
		
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			But lost property is effectively advertised for a year.
		
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			It is advertised for a year and if no one claims possession of it during that year. And obviously to
claim possession of it, they don't just come and say, Oh, you know, that bag of coins belongs to me,
they have to bring an evidence that it belongs to them. It's advertised for a year and Islamic
history. And if nobody comes, then it is claimed for that person. So what happens to the records,
then, once the 20% is paid 80% belongs to the person whose land is found on or if it's found on land
that doesn't belong to anybody, then the person who found it will take possession of it after
they've paid the 20%.
		
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			One more issue
		
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			or two that might be worth discussing. First of all, what is the ruling of going out and looking for
		
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			records. That was the ruling of going out like some people spend a lot of money and they go out and
they have like, you know, they they go looking for it with metal detectors and, and things like
that.
		
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			In this
		
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			there are some things that we have to say first of all, it's not permissible to look for treasure on
someone's land. That's the first one. So you can't go into your neighbor's back garden and start
looking for buried treasure. The second thing is the second thing is that if it is prohibited by the
state, if it's illegal in the law, then you can't go looking for it. And the third thing is if it
involves a waste of time and money
		
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			Which is the case in many situations, but not every situation. But in many situations, there is a
waste of
		
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			time a waste of money. People, you know, instead of seeking the permissible means of income, people
use it all the time on schemes that they have, whether it's treasure or anything else, you know, as
long as is my goal in life is, I'm going to find a big bag of golden coins buried in the ground,
		
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			you have to have, you have to,
		
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			you have to value your time is worth more than that, to waste time on something like this, and a
person might never find it in 100 years. But if it is permitted by the state, and it's not on
someone else's property, and a person perhaps has some expertise in that some understanding of it is
shot long to Allah, we don't think that it falls into the into that which is hot.
		
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			Nor recurs is anything you find of value.
		
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			I think this is a different issue. What you mentioned is people what we would call scrounging or
like, just looking for the country's in a desperate situation like a war zone, and people are just
looking for anything. But this often isn't required, it's not buried in the ground. It's not buried
in the ground, right. It's something that people go looking like, you know, in the streets on the
beach, like wherever they can just find in the countryside in the bushes, but it's not something
necessarily like buried deep in the ground. So I think the ruling and as changes, as for the ruling
have lost property which we've mentioned,
		
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			there is an exception to lost property, which is if the thing is of little value. If it's
insignificant and have little value, you can pick it up and keep it. Like for example, someone finds
a 50 pence coin on the floor,
		
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			a 50 pence coin on the floor, and they don't know who dropped it. In reality, you don't have to
advertise this 50% 50 pence coin for so just for the guys who are watching from Dubai, that is like
about three Durham's or something like that to two and a half drums, you imagine you find, you know,
		
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			50 pence coin on the floor, you don't need to advertise it for a year and then take possession of it
because it's something which is insignificant, some of the relevant they give the example of finding
a stick, like you find something on the floor, which is belongs to somebody you can see, but it's
something which is it has no real value, it's it's insignificant, there is no harm in you if you
don't know who it belongs to. There's no harm in you keeping it.
		
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			So, perhaps a lot of that comes under that.
		
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			But the issue of countries in which the situation is very difficult also you have issues of
necessity in there, which makes the situation a little bit different. So here we are talking about
the treasure which is buried in the earth. And if let's say there was a situation like that and
someone found treasure buried in the earth, the same ruling applies, is it lost property or not? If
it's lost property, the ruling has to be that of lost property. If it is buried treasure then 20% is
given to the beta man in the same usage as the Zika. And that could be another reason why I have
mentioned this here. Because even if you don't class it as Zika the usage of the wealth is the same.
		
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			As a lie xojo told us regarding the usage of Family Law, he only received family law he
		
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			assumed he
		
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			was the sort of
		
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			sort of harsh alright.
		
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			alone.
		
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			I fell in law he was really really cool. Obi Wan was
		
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			Kayla tikona. Do let me know Alinea iminco finally finally the I forget.
		
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			So in any case, the usage is the usage is
		
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			the same, broadly the same so it goes under it's used for the poor people and the needy and so on.
Okay, let's move on to our next
		
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			Hadeeth.
		
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			Our next Heidi is from American
		
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			family life.
		
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			corbelli uttama or Misaki
		
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			sorry
		
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			so again let's not get too distracted The question was about lost property again so we'll deal with
lost property in its place but the question generally was
		
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			about people taking loss property if nobody claims it in Islam The issue is that you have to wait a
hairdryer that's the difference in Islam you cannot take it before a hairdryer has passed and it's
been advertised in whatever ways is custom among the people that it has been advertised if it's in a
college you you know you put like an advertisement that there is a lost property office or there is
a you know, that certain items have been found without giving too much detail away somebody comes
and says yes, mine okay describe the bag the bag looks like this. Okay, describe what was in it was
in this and this and this and this, describe where it was left it was left in this place, okay, then
		
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			it belongs to you. Nobody comes in and brings that then after a year you take it into your the staff
can take it but they can't.
		
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			It can't be taken before that
		
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			to move on to our
		
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			next Hades.
		
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			Okay, before I go ahead.
		
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			It takes the same token.
		
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			Yeah, that's when we mentioned from the I A fairly La Jolla Rasulullah deal. Kotoba when he uttama
well, Misaki
		
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			weapon is Serbian, and zakka in navasota Cthulhu. For Coryell, Masaki, will amin la Howell more LFO
to coloboma, for record, we'll call him you know, a few civilian.
		
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			So the two are, at least, very, very similar, if not, and it's the same. It's used for the poor
people, the miskeen, the destitute, the one who is the wayfarer,
		
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			and so on. And as Elijah said, chaotic when I do attend Bane Alinea income, so that it doesn't
become it's not it doesn't become wealth that circulates among the rich among you.
		
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			Do Latin here means it circulates. So what happens is rich people find it and rich people keep it
and then it makes them more rich, right? So to stop it becoming something that just circulates among
the rich allies. So Joe declared or decreed that a fifth of it goes to the poor and the needy and
the wayfarer, so that it doesn't become something that circulates among the rich people. And you
imagine, you know, the wealthy person who is able to sort of, you know, find us or has a lot of land
or whatever, and they find it and they keep in it makes them more wealthy and it just, it just
serves to kind of circulate among the wealthy
		
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			know.
		
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			Good. Our next study is, as we said, from American tribe, and a B, E
		
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			and J. And this is a chain of narration that we've come across before Mr. Eben schreib narrates from
a B he his father who narrates from j d. And remember we said gente he means that the Jed the
grandfather of his father, not his grandfather, not our mother's grandfather, sure. iwbs grandfather
who is Abdullah even Amma even alas radi Allahu anhu woman, and then the result Allahu Allah who was
sent lemma con fee Ken's in Virginia who are Julian fee HIPAA.
		
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			The Messenger of Allah the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said about some treasure that was
found by a man
		
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			He said in vegetto ficaria tin mess schooner tin roof
		
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			what in widget houfy ikaria tin.
		
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			Mess cool netting for fee.
		
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			For fee, he said for fee for fee were 30 cars for fee he were theory cars and homes. A Harajuku no
magic is not in house. And he said, if you found it in a town in which people were living, then
treat it as lost property. And if you found it in a town in which people were not living, then there
is in it, and in all buried treasure, a fifth.
		
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			We've already covered most of the issues regarding this, Heidi so we'll move on to our last Heidi's
for today. And this is on a slightly different topic, but we bring them all together. What I'm
believing in Harris rhodiola, and another sort of Lhasa Lola who it was selama aha terminal meridian
		
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			al corbelli. Yeah, a sadhaka Raja Hua Buddha would
		
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			be level headed for the love and narrates the Messenger of Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam took
from Alma it,
		
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			he took from the minds or the from the old, like so we talked about the mind when they mined gold,
or they mined silver, or the mind other precious,
		
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			they might mined diamonds, or they might mine other precious things, valuable things, they take
them, they extract them out of the ground. And he took from these ma ideen that were pub le yet that
refers to a place which was near to Medina, between Mecca and Medina. And he said he took from them
sadhaka he took the car from them.
		
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			Now, we can see some parallels with this. And with Ricardo and also with other things that come out
of the ground, like a hobo birthmark, like fruits and
		
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			other seeds and things that come out of the ground, we can see some parallels here. But there are
also some, there are also some differences because all of them are coming out of
		
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			the earth. Some of the scholars they call it really casual morality, they call it the
		
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			the buried like as if it's the buried treasure that is that is dug out of the Earth from the main,
but the difference between between what is mentioned about Alma Dean and what is mentioned about
rakez is that recurs is something that originally came outside of the it came from people and they
buried it, whereas what is found in them it in in the mines and so on what is mind the ores, this is
naturally part of the earth.
		
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			And that is why the scholars defined it as that which Allah created within the earth for the benefit
of people.
		
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			And it comes under the name of meridian based on the word karma. And the word my it comes from this,
the meaning of it is like the word mocking. So it because it is more common feedback now, it remains
inside of the it lives inside of the earth analyzer Joe created it there. And it's not from the
earth itself in the sense that it's not earth like sand or dirt or stone, but it's something which
is something different which is extracted out of the earth for the benefit of people.
		
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			And there are two types,
		
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			shuffles and when it came to explain this hadith he said there are two types he said one are the
ores which are liquid
		
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			and the ores which are solid. So those which are liquid or those which come under the liquid are
things like petroleum, or oil, whatever you crude oil or whatever they call it that they take out of
the ground.
		
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			And
		
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			similar things like that.
		
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			And likewise from the solid oils like gold, and silver
		
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			and salt
		
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			and precious stones.
		
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			The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
		
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			took from the minds of
		
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			Allah carbury Yeah, which is a village or a town between Makkah and Medina.
		
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			And they used to have, they used to mine gold and silver there they used to have
		
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			deposits of gold and deposits of silver.
		
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			And the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam had set this aside for Bilal radi Allahu Akbar.
		
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			And the prophets, I seldom used to take the car from it.
		
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			Now, in this, we have an issue,
		
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			because the Heidi doesn't tell us how much Zakah is taken from it.
		
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			And the scholars differed about that how much Zakah
		
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			is taken from the mined ores like gold and silver, and diamonds and oil and so on.
		
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			The first opinion is elicos
		
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			the fifth
		
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			like a ruckus, because they said just like ruckus comes out from the earth. So, likewise, the mind
materials come out from the earth. So, there is a there is 20%.
		
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			Other said, Robert Rochelle, they said 2.5% why 2.5% because they said an example of mind, the most
common thing that is mind is gold and silver, and gold and silver, already we have an evidence in
zecca the gold and silver is 2.5%.
		
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			And there is another issue which the sheriff mentions in his explanation, which is that cefas I
mentioned that if the wealth if the mind is owned by the government, and the money is already goes
to the Muslim Treasury, then there is no zakkai Jew upon it.
		
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			So if this well, or the mine, or whatever it is, is owned by the state, and the money goes to the
beta male anyway, and it goes to the state's money.
		
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			It doesn't go to the individual who owns it. It's the it's owned by the state as a whole and the
money goes already to the poor people and the needy and other things that the state has to spend
upon. Then he said in this situation, there is no Zakah do upon it because it is already being used
for the same purpose and the purpose is for it to go to the beta not for it to go to the Muslim
Treasury and to be spent upon the needy and the poor and so on. However, this still requires some
research, because it's important to make sure that the if it is Zakah is the difference if it is
Zakah as it appears to be in the Hadith, then you have to be careful what you spend it on you have
		
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			to make sure that that amount is spent, as it should be in Masada hartville enfocado Misaki will
Amina la Wilmore aliphatic Ouma Federica aalameen our fee sub La La Habana Sabine.
		
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			It has to be spent in that way. The poor people and the needy people and so on.
		
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			There is one or two more issues
		
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			that we have to deal with.
		
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			And we could probably attach to here, which is are there any other types of Zika that we haven't
already spoken about in the class up to now?
		
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			What have we spoken about? Can we do a recap what have we spoken about? We've had 13 lessons on Zika
What have we spoken about? We spoke about camels, sheep and cows. So we spoke about cattle generally
like the cattle and the baby metal and
		
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			we spoke about gold and silver
		
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			and currency
		
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			We spoke about
		
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			trade goods.
		
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			We spoke about her with FEMA. We talked we spoke about the crops and the seeds, the crops and grains
and fruits. We talked about, we spoke about crops and grains and fruits.
		
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			We spoke about dates. Among those we spoke about dates, we spoke about grapes and raisins, because
we spoke specifically about that. What else did we speak about? We spoke about trade goods.
		
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			Yeah, so we we've spoken about many of the, of the points so far, are there any other and now we
spoke about buried treasure and we spoke about or that is mind?
		
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			Now the question comes, is there anything else that we haven't spoken about? The most common one
that people mentioned is honey
		
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			is the kaiju upon honey or not? The jumbo the majority of the scholars they said no from the HANA
fear the Maliki or the sherea. So the HANA fees the Maliki's the Scheffer ease, they said no. As for
the HANA Villa, so the mishor in the madhhab is that it's due in the multiple Hana Villa is that
there is the kaiju upon
		
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			and acid Okay, what is the difference? Where did this difference come from? The difference came from
the fact that there isn't
		
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			a Heidi from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam which stipulates zeca do upon honey.
		
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			There isn't a hadith
		
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			Okay, so how did le mal Akhmad consider the case jus upon honey then because of some of the things
that he saw from the earth of Mr. rhodiola and some of the others where he said that zaca he said
that some of the earlier people from all the Sahaba and those after them they held that zeca was due
upon honey
		
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			Mr. Smith said that the percentage is 10%
		
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			the percentages 10%
		
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			What about the one who sells honey doc?
		
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			This is comes under aerocity Java remember trade goods we said trade goods doesn't matter what you
sell. If you trade in honey is the same as trading in pens is the same as trading and clothing is
the same as trading and shoes is the same as trade. It doesn't matter. So we're talking about the
one who has either got now you're gonna ask me the word for it.
		
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			What do you call a place where they keep bees? Avi aviary, something like that?
		
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			A after a
		
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			five minute the name what you call the place you keep these anyway. beehives? Yeah, so there's a way
you if the person has either has beehives or the person
		
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			appy
		
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			pie or something like that. Okay, bee hives. If you have a place where you
		
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			keep beehives or if a person goes and extract honey from the mountains and the and the forests of
the trees. Just goes and collects it. So is there any record you according to Mr. Ahmed is 10% can
still lies the gentleman's best I still when I looked at the issue last time?
		
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			Well, anymore in the law laws which animals best I didn't see.
		
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			It's difficult without Hadeeth
		
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			for the this is the problem because there isn't because there isn't a
		
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			and there isn't a Hadeeth that can they see 90 kilos
		
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			Approximately they say 90 kilos I think that is the that is one of the or that is the opinion in the
Metalab if I'm not mistaken.
		
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			So it is a significant amount but again, without Hadeeth for it
		
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			allows a gentleman is best.
		
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			That brings us to the end of the chapter.
		
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			And if there are any general questions about Zika what we can do is take those now. And then
otherwise what we can do a shout out to either next time is to move on to the chapter of South
Dakota. I would rather do that in a new lesson. Because just easier to make a new chapter as a
cultural fit or as a new chapter. The counterfeiter really spoken about during the month of Ramadan
but not as part of Bloomerang. So we have to cover we have to cover the carto fatale inshallah. And
then after the cattle fitter, I believe we're going to talk about voluntary
		
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			charity to toe work.
		
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			And have them Roger also mentioned some of the virtues of giving sadaqa and the virtues of Zakat as
well. You mentioned those also in pulwama.
		
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			Do you have any questions?
		
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			That is a good question.
		
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			So a person pays a car through something like PayPal,
		
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			or even by card even by debit card, a percentage
		
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			is taken from them
		
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			by the service that transfers the money and is the
		
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			less than the amount reaches the person?
		
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			The question is does this come under? The ruling of Mr. Molina Alia, the necessity of the people who
work in collecting the Zika?
		
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			I don't know I would have to research that one. It's a very good question. It's an excellent
question.
		
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			It's an excellent question.
		
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			I don't recall an answer from some of the people have knowledge about
		
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			any other questions.
		
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			Is there any way
		
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			that we can go to the government usually, for example?
		
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			Yeah, very, very good question. So it's I mean, it's a beautiful question. I think it's a question
that deserves to be given some time on it. So the question is, where do we go back to if we're
studying Zakah? Where do we go back to, to understand the topic when we come across something that
we don't know. So here we've got different resources. So I'm going to divide these resources, first
of all, into two resources that relate to Heidi, and resources that relate to
		
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			so if we talk about resources relating to Heidi, so the explanations of books like blue hamara, so
like super solid, totally black,
		
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			and other books that explain bluehill Milan, for example, the explanations of the books of Hadith,
if the Heidi the simple Heidi, then the explanation, in fact, Alberti the explanation of Sahih
Muslim by Alabama No, we for example, if the Hadith is inserted, Abdel would then own and marbled,
and so on. So every book of Hadith has explanations, right. So the explanation of sila Bukhari that
is the most famous of all of them is fat Halle Berry. The explanation that is most famous in Samos
is of Sahih Muslim is Shahada. We are also a Muslim.
		
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			Abu Abu
		
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			in
		
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			Tell me the traffic or quality, and so on every so the explanations what we would call it as kutub
shore hat. And Heidi, the books which explained the Heidi.
		
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			That's one option, if it's just terminology, and the terminology is in the Hadith itself, then you
got another set of books, which are the books that deal with glory and Hadith, the unique words that
are found in the Hadith.
		
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			Or likewise even in the Quran, if you find a word in the Quran, you don't understand there are there
are books like the book of erotic Alice for honey,
		
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			which talks about the words in the Quran that are unusual? unusual, it's called
		
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			mosrite mo for that for that herbalist for honey
		
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			if it's in Heidi then a new hire a few horrible Heidi's there is a book called a new hire theory
		
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			LSR of theory but Heidi's theory but a thought or a thought.
		
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			A new hire this book by
		
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			this book has unusual words in Heidi
		
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			has unusual words that are in hiding.
		
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			So that's dealt with the topic from the point of view of Heidi's so I'm looking at Heidi dimboola,
Milan, I don't understand the word recast. I don't understand this word. So I've got some options. I
can go back to the the the books which explain how to so if it's bloga muram, the explanation of
bogomolov in global muram it says matava con la agreed upon, so I know I'm going to find it in fact
Halle Berry, the explanation of Sahil Buhari and I know I'm going to find it and know his
explanation of Sahih Muslim because he agreed upon and so on. In blowgun bolometers Abu Dhabi. So
what I'm going to do is I'm first of all going to look at the explanations of global moron. Then I'm
		
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			going to look at the explanations of sunon Abu Dawood until I found what I'm looking for. I might
also find it in books like a new hire, which deal with strange and unusual words in the Hadith and
explain what they mean.
		
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			That's from a Heidi's point of view. Now we ask, okay, if this is a fixed issue, where are we going
to find this from a fixed point of view, because remember, what we're doing here is a combination of
Hadith and Fiqh. Really, it's, we're taking it from a Heidi's point of view, but they are hiding
Telecom. So these same points are dealt with in the books of fic. And for the books of fic.
		
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			Again, you have maybe two different categories, you have, or maybe three, you have general books, or
fifth, which might not be specific to a particular method, but might explain, you know, each one,
but more likely, you're going to find it in the books of them,
		
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			you're going to find it explained in the books of the mothership. And it doesn't really matter which
method Have you it just whichever one you've studied, and you know, you're going to have a set of
books in that method. For example, if you studied the hammer you might have you might start with
		
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			Kathy and Teddy, for example. And at the end of it, you might have a morning, babe and odana and all
the books in between. And so
		
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			as you are, you know, you've got these books, these books have explanations, and the explanations of
these books in the same chapter, which deals with Zika also explain the same
		
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			issue. And they give an explanation of it and, and so on. Where you might find a difference perhaps
you might find the books of Heidi's are more general in explaining and the book of fiction might
explain in the context of the madhhab. If there's actually a difference of opinion on the
explanation itself. Like is there a difference of opinion on the word recast what it actually is?
Did some people include some things and some exclude so maybe in the books of the mothership that
might be you might find that as well.
		
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			There's another thing you can use in film, which are the books of Atari fat, the books which explain
		
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			terms in fact, there are many books that explain terms in In fact,
		
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			depending on what you're looking for, I'll draw Johnny for example, Tyree fat has a book called
Atari fat, others there are many books that you can find where they the book is a explains masala
hat terminologies. So it's not explaining words, like records in a way is more of a word like right
it's a word you can you can find its meaning and I
		
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			Arabic dictionary, but it explains masala heart terminologies that maybe people might not be
familiar with the last place you could look or maybe the first place because I will probably look
here first is to look in the dictionaries. So, in terms of
		
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			Arabic dictionaries, the classical the main classical Arabic dictionaries you have likely sign up.
		
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			And even if you want to add to it at the end,
		
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			if you want to add to the end, Xavi, this turtle arrows, also, and the other book the other famous
books of
		
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			the other famous
		
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			famous books of of dictionary, Arabic language dictionaries. In English, if you want an Arabic
language dictionary that summarizes those then Lane's lexicon is very good. Because it summarizes
the main what they call the medieval Arabic dictionaries than the classical Arabic dictionaries,
which were written from about 300 to about seven or 800 years after the Hadrian, these classical
Arabic dictionaries, it summarizes them in English. So across these places, this is where you will
find the one other place you can look, which comes on to fifth, which I didn't mention are books,
which are what they call,
		
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			I guess they call it modal very, like specific to a topic. So it's not 50 of the madhhab. But for
example, it's a risala doctora on zecca. It's a doctorate thesis on Zika. So on this thesis, you may
find a lot of detailed explanation that you wouldn't find elsewhere. So in Hades, you've got the
books that explain Hadeeth, whether it's the book you're reading, or whether it's a reference to a
book like piety or Muslim, you've also got two books that are that deal with unusual words in
Hadeeth. In fact, you have the books that deal with unusual words. In fact, you have the books of
the mothership and their explanations, and you have the books that are written on specific topics.
		
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			So for example, just looking at the masjid, you can maybe put that camera on. Yeah, so you can see
there's a bookshelf there, most of the books that I mentioned, you can find in that bookshelf over
there.
		
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			And you can find them.
		
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			You can find them labeled in the bookshelf over there. So you can find books that are specific
topics. And in there, you'll find books on zeca books on fasting books on
		
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			books on Hajj, for example, you can find books, which deal with thick words, and terminologies will
start a hat and things like that. You can find Arabic dictionaries, you can find books that deal
with strange words in Hadeeth. And the explanation of Heidi's are also there, and they're all
labeled. So within each one of these, you can find some explanation for what you're looking for. And
that's generally what you do. But what you might find is later on.
		
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			If you're looking for a quick answer you, you just probably want to go to the quickest thing you
have. So if you're reading blogger, Milan, you really want to go to either silver SLM, or totally
		
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			a simple, a really simple explanation of globalhab. And most likely, you're gonna find what you need
there. But if you want to go into it in detail, and you really want to know, you've got to go
through all those sources, you've got to go through the explanations, or Hadeeth, the explanations
of the book of the books of them, or their hub, the dictionaries, and so on. And that's what I
haven't done too much in this explanation of global model. I tried at the beginning, I used to do it
in the early classes in Bulova model. And why I stopped is, I found that it was hard on the people
who are coming, because people who come in generally wanted an overview, a simple overview of the
		
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			topic, but they didn't want necessarily to go into all that detail. So I started in the beginning in
the first few lessons going into a lot of detail. And it was hard on students. So later on, we
settled on a fairly simple explanation, based on Norton and we said generally we we stick to the
explanation of shale oil and
		
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			have it allowed to either
		
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			which, which is quite some very summarized and just really simple. But then later on, if there's an
issue that we want to deal with, like last time, we dealt with Aurora tea jar, we went into a bit of
detail into it, we started to go into some of the Maasai land some of the fatawa and things like
that about it because it's an issue that a lot of people face every day, but they don't really
understand how to how to manage it. So that's what I would that's how I would approach it, but will
lie You know, if you develop the skill to be able to do that that research skill will last you a
lifetime in action.
		
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			every topic in Islam, the ability to know where to go, even on the issue of he had
		
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			some of the scholars of Islam they mentioned this, that it's not the case that the island always has
the answer to a question. But the island is the one who knows where to find it.
		
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			Like he should have the answer, but if he doesn't have the answer to it, he at least the minimum
requirement is at least he knows where to find it. And he says volume this it's in much more effort
our chapter volume nine, page three and he knows where to find things. So the more you become
comfortable researching issues
		
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			and you try research with structure as well. Like don't just try and research like randomly Okay,
first of all start with the tidy flow, what is the linguistic definition of this word? From the
dictionaries and and classical Arabic dictionaries, poetry, things like that? Then ask yourself
okay, what is the Stila meaning the technical meaning in Islam? Is it different from the linguistic
meaning, then you start looking at five or six key things. The first thing that you look at is you
try to get the solar cell masala, you try to get the the overall picture. And a lot of what we do in
this lesson is only that, like we try we try to deal with just maybe the first or the second issue.
		
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			So the first one is to get
		
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			a general understanding and a picture of what it is. So a lot of times people actually make mistakes
in tesoro, messala forget the hokum they haven't understood, the person hasn't understood the mess
Allah in the beginning, let alone the hokum it's not the issue of they haven't understood if it's
halal or haram. They haven't understood the issue at all. They haven't got a correct understanding
of what it is. So for example, the person who mixes up repairs very treasure and lost property. And
they find lost property. And they say, Oh, it's buried treasure. It's not that they haven't
understood the hokum they haven't understood what buried treasure is. So this is the first thing you
		
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			understand what it is. So this is the definition. And also you get at a soul a general picture of
the issue. What is it? Then after that you go into the Hulk was the ruling.
		
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			Is it so we have the rulings of Islam, we have a wardrobe
		
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			we have obligation is the hubbub recommendation. We have
		
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			Kira here, or cara, which is something which is disliked. And we have Atari. And some of the
scholars add Alibaba, Alibaba, Alibaba, but really Alibaba has not really a hook. And Eva has what
happens when none of the others apply. But in any case, so now you understood the hook. Okay, what's
the next step? You understand? The delille? What's the evidence for that hokum?
		
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			And then later on, you understand, like how some of the scholars said malleco Mr. Alec, what is for
you and what is against you? In other words, among the other scholars of Islam, who had different
opinions about the issue where did their different opinions come from? Malika Omar I like what
you're saying here I'm sat here saying that there is no xikar Jew upon honey. Okay, you have to know
Malika Omar I like what do you have is the evidence and what do they have as evidence and so on
until you you know you reach the end of these different steps. So learning how to research an issue
in a lot of detail it could be really beneficial for a person to know so they start off okay, I'm
		
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			just going to get a tidy generally understanding I'm going to get a sort of general picture of how
it works. Now I'm going to get into the ruling I'm going to look at the deli I'm going to look at
what's listed lol this deli where How is this what is the reason that this deli is being applied to
this issue? For example, we mentioned that some of the videos like the the example somebody you
talking about for example and any issue any issue someone says is it permissible or not? Someone
says well it's haram to
		
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			say okay what's your daily he says fly on Verona lol a billy k for holy hot Didn't you see the camel
how it's created? Said however that's not a delete he said it's a delete it's in the Quran. He said
delete but the Delete is not the problem. It's not a delille for what you are saying it's not so
your problem is what you listed lol you the way you use that delille is wrong. You brought a deal.
It's a deli, but it's not a delille for the issue at hand. Have you not seen the camels how they
were created has nothing to do
		
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			Do it whether you eat or not. So it doesn't bring the right you didn't bring the right delille for
the right issue, then you need to look at malleco. Mr. Alec, what do you have on your side? And what
do they have on their side? And the more you do that will allow you realize you start to have a lot
of respect for the scholars of Islam. You know, generally when you start off in a very beginning
level, and all of us, we are at that level and you get excited about Messiah and you get really
like, you know, there's no, don't talk to me about this. Leave me with this call. He has no deli, he
has no deli. He has no deli. And you start to feel like you have all of the things which are Roger
		
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			how with you. But when you look at my leko Alec, what is for you and what is against you, you
realize that there is a lot of evidences people, these scholars didn't come up with things without
having evidences, there is a correct opinion and an incorrect opinion there is a stronger and a
weaker opinion. But you still learn to have a respect for the effort that was made. And you kind of
calm down a bit and say, yeah, you know, they have evidences, but from my limited knowledge and what
I've looked at what I've researched, it seems to me at this level that I'm at the moment that their
evidence is don't seem to be as strong as the evidences which are for them and so on.
		
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			Okay, we'll stop there. That's what made it easy for me to mention Eliza jemals bestel salatu salam
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