Why Rob Chose Islam

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The speakers discuss the importance of covering one's body, not just their clothing, in Islam. They emphasize the importance of finding expertise in the Muslim community to provide training for women, balance themselves, and find a place for praying inside houses. They also discuss the importance of protecting family relationships and finding a place for praying inside houses. They also emphasize the importance of understanding and love in marriage, not just because of physical beauty, but because of the acceptance of Islam. They encourage individuals to start organizing and to give their time to the community.

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			smilla rahmanir rahim hamdulillah salatu salam ala rasulillah salam aleikum, wa rahmatullah.
		
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			There are a few questions that are asking you know about my own life. And I don't usually talk about
myself. But I just wanted to say just to make it clear to you, that Al Hamdulillah, I embraced Islam
myself, after 20 years of being a non Muslim, born in the United States, and I've lived in Canada,
and Jamaica, and Saudi Arabia, I'm now living in South Africa. And basically, I'm not on the field
work, and a person doing research and involved in data. So that that's the best way to describe
		
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			myself, I wouldn't say conference, we're not using that term, we're saying revert, because we're
actually coming back home again, to the original fitter after a loss of Potala put us upon
		
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			what I would like to say, concerning the situation of the Muslims here. And some of the questions
that I have received
		
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			after this lecture, is that your response, you know, to what I have said, is similar to responses
that Muslims had in Canada, in South Africa and America, and especially throughout the Western
countries. And that is that behind the veil,
		
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			of our outward Islam, we are in a great crisis. And we need to look at this in a positive way. We
need to look at it as a challenge to our to ourselves as Muslims, and not to feel depressed and
overcome by it, because it is part of the shaytans way to try to stop Islam to put out the light of
Allah subhanaw taala. abuse is a reality. And for a long time, there's been denial in our community.
There are many people who are crying in their homes, and they're crying for somebody to stand up
against this, and any Muslim comes in contact with abuse. Then the province of solemn has said men
raw men come on Karen, fragile hair who big
		
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			any of you sees evil, then change it with his hands? Philomena stuff here for Billy sadly, we can't
do that. Then with his tongue. for 11 years, for the kalbi was Alec out after the man, if he can't
change it with his tongue by saying something, go to somebody else, do something to stop it, then at
least you feel it in your heart. But that is the lowest form of faith. And so I want to open up the
lines, especially with the brothers and sisters here in the Islamic organizations, and that those
individuals who are interested to set up a social service center, a practical social service center,
then inshallah, in the future, if Allah gives life, I will be willing to return to sit with the
		
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			brothers and sisters, to go over the details about how to set up a functional Social Service Center.
Right now there are individuals who are in the field, and the organization of Islam, brother, Abu
Hamza,
		
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			sister, Shiraz, and others who are standing up.
		
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			They are handling some of these problems, there are other people and other organizations also. So I
would say that some of the questions are so deep, some of the points of discussion are so personal,
that I wouldn't be able to read these things publicly. It has to be handled by a counselor.
		
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			And so I would request that you call to the organization of Islam. And if there are any other social
service agencies, they should make themselves known people who have the skills, they should come
forward now, to us and to the leadership to try to handle some of these problems. Another great area
of questioning, which I believe that the study circles that are going on in the different Islamic
centers, such as Islam and other places will handle, especially for the women in terms of the
address is the fact that
		
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			our dress of modesty, settled our covering the private paths, male and female, should
		
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			be practiced in the masjid and outside of the masjid. It's not something that we do when we just mix
a lot. And then we transform, we come these transformers, but we should have one personality. Just
as we said for the youth right below becomes Billy. Right Ali becomes owl. Remember that? It can
happen for the adults.
		
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			When Mohammed can become more
		
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			And he can change up when he goes to the business. Or she could change that also after she finishes
making salon, and so it is recommended check Nasir Dean al Abadi Rahim Allah, who wrote a book, a
job, Amara and muslimah did the hijab of the Muslim woman is one of the best summaries with clear de
Lille to show the limits in terms of the dress. And it shows that it is permissible for a woman to
expose her face. And her hands, however, are those women who are covering more than that, may Allah
subhanaw taala make it easy for them. And they are actually in line with the wives of the Prophet
Allah Salah. And it is permissible in Islam to do that. The clothing that we do wear if we are
		
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			covering our bodies, as the man is covering from above his navel to below his knee, and especially
in Pilates covering over is just our clothing should not be see through.
		
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			And it should not be skin tight. You know the spandex generation that I was talking about, where
people are actually covered up but they're naked. This is right in line with the Hadith of the
Prophet SAW someone who predicted that these days would come. So it should not be skin tight, it
should not be
		
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			real shining shining colors. It should not be a woman shouldn't be having perfume and going outside,
which is which is attracting to the men. And we should not be following along blindly and a
partially after the styles of the Westerners or of the capital. And really east and west it has
ended now it's global now. We shouldn't be following the non Muslims in their fashions. But we
should be strong enough to stick to our own fashions and our own styles in a sense pleasing Allah
tala and to be as simple and as humble as we can, in our dress. Also concerning work, this is a
question that is coming up constantly. And there may be different opinions that scholars have. The
		
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			ideal situation, if we have our own territories, and our own lands, is that basically, the
responsibility of providing for the family is really on the man. And so he is the one who is
burdened to go out to work, we don't necessarily look at work as being a privilege, or work as
being, you know, the means of worse of an individual because you go out and work in a factory. And
so modesty has to be maintained. And those families where the man is basically taking care of the
responsibility, and fulfilling his rights. These are the families that have the most success. When
the man takes part of his responsibility, and he puts it on his wife makes her go out to work. He
		
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			forces her to go out to work. And then he comes home and he thinks he wants to be the king of the
house. It doesn't work like that. Because that was his response to that nafa was on him. He was
supposed to do it. But we have the case of a man who goes out to work. And he comes back. His wife
comes back at 430 she had to work. She goes to the factory.
		
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			She arrives at 430
		
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			he arrives at 530 he kicks his feet up on the chair with my food.
		
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			Okay, now she turns around, she's been listening to the women's liberation all day at the factory.
And she says you cook the dinner?
		
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			And then it's world war three.
		
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			So problems develop, why are you forcing her to go out to work? That's not her responsibility. Even
if you look at Sharia, technically speaking, it's not even her responsibility to be doing household
chores. If you really look into the Sharia, you'll find that now we know with the division of labor,
more than likely she would be but it's not actually her responsibility. She has to take care of the
children, she nurtures the children, she she she takes care of the mix to the care that the children
are standing on their feet. Okay, so really, these are the families that are the most successful.
Also now what is happening, we need expertise in the Muslim community. We need to have doctor female
		
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			doctors. We need to have teachers we need to have a number of of professional jobs to be done by
women. How are they going to get this knowledge? We don't have the ideal situation. And so under the
law knows best and you may get different opinions on this. But if a woman is able to continue
wearing her her Islamic dressing or clothing, she's covering herself she's able to make her salaat
she is not sacrificing her Deen as she is going out to you know, to to do a study that is needed by
the community, not just to make money, then, you know with protection and you know and with support
of the community.
		
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			We have been allowing the sisters to do this because we had the case of people who were saying
		
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			They did not want to visit the sisters to go out to University at all.
		
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			In the second breath, the brother said, I want a female doctor for my wife, I'm Muslim. So I said,
Okay, brother, if you want a female Muslim doctor, who's supposed to learn this way you're going to
get her from, if she doesn't go to the university to learn medicine, you see. So therefore, we have
to use Hickman and we have to balance ourselves until we move towards the level where we have our
own society, our own state, you know, then we then our division of labor, you know, can be easier
for us, because we will have this type of setup. So we have to use wisdom when we are doing this.
But in the event that a woman has to sacrifice for Dean, that it is not worth going out to the cafe
		
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			alone, because there are many problems that are happening on the jobs, sexual problems, even non
Muslim women have been complaining about abuse, and *, and all types of things that are going on
outside of the society, the men also need to consider covering their hours. And this is a problem
that has happened in our community. And I see that it also could exist here, where the men are so
particular about the women covering the hour, and then they bend down to make salaat. And assured is
way up on their back, the pants are so tight, you can see their whole bodies. And you know, they are
wearing any type of clothing that they want to wear. So covering up the outer and modesty and
		
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			lowering the gaze is for male and for female, concerning the government in Afghanistan. And in any
part of the world. I would recommend that you get somebody from Afghanistan or somebody who's been
in Afghanistan to answer this question for you. Because it is not fair for anybody to to make a
comment about Muslims, if you don't have direct information.
		
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			You hear positive you hear negative? We used to say in America, though, that if the CNN, if those
people in so called authority are against you, then you must be doing something right. You must be
doing something right. So I would suggest for this question to be answered properly, we need to get
somebody who has been inside the country and really knows what is going on who can answer this this
question properly. You'll notice that in terms of the war against Muslim women, I didn't go into
details concerning what is happening with the West. Because I think it is very clear to us in terms
of the the media attacks, in terms of physical attacks in France and other parts of the world. What
		
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			is going on, we're seeing it all the time. But but the struggle of the internal Muslims, that is the
one that we haven't really brought out into the open. And so I pray that Allah subhanaw taala would
help us because, you know, as we say, in America, the cat is out the bag. And so we need to now deal
with the situation and come away from denial, and try to stay as close as we can to the soul of the
prophets of Salaam. And we have to ask a lot of Forgive us, because we live in in as Mr. darphin. We
are living outside of the Islamic states. And we are in a state of weakness. And we have to ask laws
to make it easy for us that we can move closer and closer towards the Sharia
		
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			in terms of you know, that the praying of the women inside of the masjid?
		
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			You know, this is a question that has come up. And a number of people asked about this. And we have
in in South Africa and I don't know if it's here to there are some masters who don't even have a
space for the women to pray inside. And really the process of themselves number of different IDs
that somehow Masako massagin will bore you to hoonah failed levina or comically subtle slam this
rewire comes in many different ways do not prohibit women from coming to the masjid but their homes
are better for them.
		
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			Now some scholars will just give you the second part of the Hadees and they say their homes are
better for them. Okay, but it is saying don't prohibit them from coming to the masjid. Now, we don't
have time to go into details and the classes can handle the details. But the key point is the
apostle is the masjid or the basis is the masjid should have a place for women. And if there is
peace in the land, if it is possible for them to come out they should be able to come out to enter
with their own entrance and to have a place in the masjid where they can pray. And especially in
these countries, it is preferable for women to go sometimes to to to to the judge Gemma to hear the
		
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			football to come around Muslims because our homes that are no longer islands of Islam. That
television that that one eyed beast inside of the house is actually making our homes like the like
places of kofa of disbelief. If however, there is fitna
		
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			if there is danger in the land if there is some for some evil
		
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			Which which can harm the to the faith of the women, or put them in danger, then it is permissible
for the leadership to ask them to stay home. And we see this in the time of Omar up top, and you'll
see it in some other points in Islamic history. But the basis is they should be allowed to go to the
masjid. And if it's possible to have classes in the center, right, it is fairly peaceful, it seems
to be fairly peaceful here in the city, then it is encouraged that there are as many activities for
the sisters as possible, so they can be educated, and they can be part of the Islamic movement, and
especially in Tao, our sister should be trained in the Dow as well. Because if a woman accepts
		
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			Islam, like last night, who's going to teach her, the brothers, many brothers would like to teach
her.
		
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			But the problem is,
		
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			that's where the shaitaan can come in. Right? That's dangerous. So she is she embraces Islam, if we
have sisters who are trained, who know the Tao, who know the fic, that then she can be processed
into Islam in the proper way and she's protected instead of our knifes llamada is soon to be
handling her on her first days within Islam.
		
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			Another question
		
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			is saying that
		
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			it is a female halifa possible and these are a little bit far away from the topic that I gave, but
basically,
		
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			the Philippines is basically handled by by the by by men. And
		
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			it is a position that requires the leading of salaat and that requires the leadership of the male
community as well as the female of the whole society to the focus of the society is on the leader.
And so, you will find that, that the FDA has basically made one of the conditions of the halifa is
that that he is male, also in terms of women involved in singing in the sheets, then then it is
		
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			the de de Islamic position that they should not be singing openly in public, if they are making
statements you know, which did not have a voice that is a singing voice. Then Then in some cases
there is allowed to be exchanged between male and female because it is reading such as something
Islamic or you know, it is not dealing with you know, singing and that changing of the voice. So it
is the Islamic position for them not to be involved in that
		
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			is another question, which is dealing with a sister who whose husband is a revert and still new in
the deen and he has fluctuations in his Eman. And she is unsure whether he will be a good strong
Muslim or not.
		
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			What I would like to say
		
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			is that
		
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			being born a Muslim isn't necessarily the criteria of success in this world. In some countries, some
people believe that if you're born in a Muslim family than your real Muslim, if you're not born in
the Muslim family, then you sort of like in one day and out the other day, a man rises and falls.
And all of us are subject to points where demand is high points where he met his law, the Sahaba
radula one image mine were not Muslims, who marble hot tub we used to drink alcohol and torture
Muslims. But he became one of the greatest Muslims in Islamic history. And so, therefore, it is not
a criteria whether that person is born as a Muslim, whether he will be successful or good husband,
		
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			he has to be treated like anybody else. He has to be given the see how and if there is a continued
problem with him. This is where the worldly comes in. The worldly in the marriage is not just to
sign the contract and to give away his daughter or his sister or his niece or whatever it is the
world he
		
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			should be watching that marriage that she's having a problem calling the will the
		
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			call and the email call a counselor talk about it. The important issue one of the important ways of
coming out of our problems today we need to discuss the problem. We need to establish Shura.
		
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			When we discuss the issues openly we open up the book of Allah open up the soul of the prophets,
Allah Salah users as the base and and deal openly. Don't hold things inside of yourself. Because
when you hold it in yourself, this is when abuse comes. And this is when the shaytaan will el to
Billa gives the person more strength to do evil because you don't stand up to that person. You have
to stand up. Allah is the one who controls life and death. And the family members should remember
when you give your daughter in marriage, you're not giving her away.
		
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			And as though she's dead, she's gone. This is in Hinduism.
		
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			They put the dirt on their head, and they're gone. This is not our concept.
		
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			It continues on the relation continues on. And you have to protect them. If there is a system who
has accepted Islam, it does not have a Wali, the prophet SAW them said assault on what he meant law
was the law that is so torn or the authority, the ruler, or the people in authority in the area
should assign people who are married to be the police, for the sisters who are our new Muslims. This
is a very important institution that must develop in the community to protect them. So the family
plays a role after the marriage, there was one brother out came from the Sudan actually. And he said
that in his village, when the men of his family what they used to do with the man was going to marry
		
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			somebody in their family, they bring him for dinner.
		
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			And then he sits down with the men, and she serves the food. Okay, so then he, his contact is made.
Okay, so he sees our suit serve on the food, and he on the brothers and the father is there. After
they're finished, and the agreement is made. Yes, he wants to marry her, yes, she wants to marry
him, then the men take him and they beat him up.
		
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			Now, they don't break his bones, but they just give him a little force, right? They give him some
force. And the father says, If you touch my daughter, this is what you're gonna get.
		
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			So he never forget,
		
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			never forgets for the rest of the marriage.
		
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			Western society tells us that polygamy in Islam is against the way of things please explain this
issue of Tata diesel jabs, of marrying more than one wife, a man marrying more than one wife, you
know, is something which is maloom, the delora it's something we should know, in Islam, it's based
Allah subhanaw taala has made it permissible for a man to marry or for women. But the condition is
justice, he must be able to do justice in the marriage. If he can't do justice, then he should only
marry one. And so this is the basis in Islam. And this is not a point of discussion, whether is
permissible or not, what is the point of discussion is whether the brothers are capable of doing it
		
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			or not. And in many cases, unfortunately, they're not capable. And abuse has happened within our
community. But this should not deny those relationships, that are really meaningful relationships,
which are, which you know, which are plural marriages, it is possible to have meaningful
relationships. And we have to now move closer toward the Islamic model of things. At the same time,
we have to be sensitive to to the problems of the society, the the economic problems, the
psychological problems, the cultural problems, before a move like that is made. This is where
counselors come in. This is where marriage education comes in. What happens many times, we have the
		
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			wrong concept of marriage. When we go into the marriage, we also have our own cultures. And we
expect certain things of a woman or a woman or a man in our cultures, but another culture, it may
not be like this. So we have to have marriage counseling. And it would be important to establish a
service with the people sit with the Imam or with somebody before they get married. And they're
counseled before they actually go into the marriage. And and try to understand something about the
culture of the person who you're married.
		
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			Is it permissible to take or give
		
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			a gift for a woman who is not a close or lift for a woman was not a close relative, alone in my car,
the province of Southern said that if you're alone, if you go outside, you know, if a man and woman
go outside together, then the third party is shaytani.
		
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			So whether you're in a car, or whether you're walking in the woods, whatever it is, the shaitaan can
penetrate your car, even if it is a BMW,
		
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			he can penetrate.
		
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			So therefore you should not be alone. Don't be alone. Always have the third party when you're
carrying somebody who's not Muslim, who was not within your, your close relationship.
		
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			You mentioned that woman should have their own property in the case of separation to have their own
here they will have 65% of the assets.
		
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			You know when when the divorce comes on. Now, this may be a problem because now there's a difference
between the Sharia law and the law in the society. And what happens now another point which is very
essential for success
		
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			in marriage, is that when we're being married, you should have in your contract should root
conditions. So you are allowed to write in certain conditions. And so what does that what happens in
some of our marriages is that the people wrote in the conditions that in the event of separation,
our wealth would be divided up according to Islamic law. And so they put this with a lawyer as a
conditional legal conditions, they signed for an affidavit that they signed for before they got
married. And that was, you know, they were able to use that encounter. I'm not sure whether that is
possible here. But it is something that needs to be explored with a lawyer.
		
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			Okay, there is another question that is saying, you said that one should not make a joke of divorce.
What happens if a husband and wife act in a drama together?
		
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			In a scene, the husband divorces his wife, please? That's the first time I ever heard that.
		
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			Maybe this is Australia, it's allowable in Australia.
		
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			Really tilaka serious? tilaka serious. And I would even avoid in a drama.
		
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			Because the Hadith is say you say in joke, it's serious. So you know if you know, have somebody else
in that drama to be the one you say it's a lot. Don't even say it in joke. This is how serious that
word is.
		
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			Another question is saying, How do you stand up against a government non Islamic who is starting a
war against women wearing the veil? Are there any human rights associations which Muslim women can
refer to help in similar matters? Okay.
		
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			This is a problem that we're facing this is where unity is important. And there may be different
approaches to Islam. There may be groups that emphasize different aspects of Islam, but we are all
on the other side nojima, then we should be able to at least unite and have a major umbrella of
organizations, or moms who can come together and put the deal questions on the table
		
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			and have unity for certain issues. And when it comes to any government attacking Muslims, the
community needs to unite and go on the streets, have your own lawyers have your pressure groups,
there is a group in America called care ca ai, R. And they are doing an excellent job in terms of if
Muslims are having problems on the job. And this is an organization that has lawyers, it has public
relations people. And so if for instance, there is a statement of discrimination against Islam at a
factory, then the care will then contact you the head of the factory, and will complain to them, and
will demand that those that statement be taken back. It will threaten court action, for
		
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			demonstration. And it is proven to be highly successful within the society. Because many times the
reason why Muslims are under attack is because nobody will stand up for them. Nope, there's no
organization to do that. So it is advisable for a defense organization to be set up, you know, where
Muslims can have that type of protection. And it's a legal thing. It's an open thing. It's nothing
that has to be hidden. It's not an underground terrorist group that's gonna blow up the building, or
anything like that. It's out front. Right? And it's very important to help our brothers and sisters.
		
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			It says brother, we have a problem when it comes to brothers taking their wives out. Can you comment
on this issue? Well, you know, really, brothers should spend more time with their families. And I
know it's nice to be with the boys and play ping pong and talk and you know, whatever it is, but
really, it is a responsibility. It's a responsibility of the husband to spend some time with his
wife and with his children. The prophet SAW Selim was the best example. Right? He used to run races
with with his wife especially IE surely law he used to sew his own clothes. Can you sew brothers?
The soul right used to sweep the floor. Right play with children be part of the house and he was
		
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			receiving revelation from above seven habits. And so if he can do that, why can't we spend time,
quality time? Put it into your schedule? To spend quality time with your family and allow supports
Allah inshallah will give you a great reward.
		
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			Another question is saying My sister was informed of her divorce to a solicitor without her
knowledge of a divorce and even without a previous problem.
		
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			How come in Islamic How come in Islamic court and in Arabic country accepts this? Is this divorce?
holla Okay, this
		
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			is really something that needs to be handled all the details need to be handled but but the talaq I
mean that it should be you know said it is a love said it is saying it and at least her while he,
you know all of herself somebody should have heard this.
		
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			But really for the details of this, you really need to sit down with the mom, you have to really
look at the situation and everything that is being involved.
		
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			It says I understand the concept of segregation, but should there be a wall so that sisters can even
see the Imam in Juma you know, really, to be honest with you, in the time of the prophet SAW Selim,
there was no physical barrier. That was the best generation because they had taqwa and self control.
Now, according to the society, you know, some people would have you know, a complete wall. Some
people would have a half one with a sister could see from the top she could see the Imam but but it
covers the bottom right in the masjid, we had we had a section where sisters could be totally
separated. And we had another half one where if they sit down, they could see the mount but what
		
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			about the bottoms were covered? Okay, that that's one way out of it. In one Masjid, I was into I
found out what the problem was. Because I was wondering, why are these brothers you know, you know,
pushing this issue. We were in this place called the Jami mosque and the sister was somebody who's
here from Toronto, knows what I'm talking she she's from the Jamia mosque. You see it tonight. And
so the mosque was a church before and the brothers the sisters section was high up on the right, way
up. Okay. And so the brothers, the gibbler is this way. So the brother said to me, brother, you got
to put up a veil on top of that, cover it off. It's a fitna.
		
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			I said, Okay, it's a fitna.
		
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			The Kibler is that way, you're telling me that's a fitna, right. Then one day I came, I saw him
sitting on the stairs, looking up at the system.
		
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			Okay, so the problem was, his Qibla was upstairs.
		
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			See?
		
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			And secondly, he needs a veil on his own eyes.
		
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			That was a solution to his problem.
		
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			You see, so many times what we do, we sort of like, you know, past, we blamed the sisters for
everything. But as you do lower your gaze, man, lower your gaze.
		
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			That's what we're supposed to do lower your gaze.
		
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			Now, the question is saying our brother, what character o'clock should we look for in a man to
ensure we won't be oppressed by them after marriage.
		
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			It's important for the Wali or somebody, whoever is responsible for the system to really sit down
with this brother who was about to be married, and have discussions with him. And it is allowed with
a chaperone or a third party, even for them to go somewhere and to talk, as long as somebody else's
there once the intention is made. Now from country to country, it might vary. But some of the Sahaba
You know, there's reports the Sahaba were even allowed to new one, he hid behind a tree, and he
watched her, you know, cleaning and cooking and stuff like that. So, so some contact is allowed.
But, um, you know, one of the one of the things that that we did, is that, you know, we had enough
		
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			discussions that we saw, we, the the person who was the one he disagreed with, with the brother. And
in disagreement, when he starts arguing with you, then you start to see something about his
personality.
		
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			Because many people can be very nice and calm, and, but when you disagree with them, they change.
		
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			So, that needs to be checked out. The person's history needs to be checked out, right? And you can't
just say, oh, martial arts, medical law, you know, he's here is so nice. And he says the Hadith so
nice, you can't do that.
		
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			Because you don't know the person's background.
		
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			The process of them said, Elijah, la mina shaytaan. haste is from the devil. So therefore, you need
to have, you know, before you're getting married, he needs to check out the history of the male and
the female even now, and I'm sorry to say it, we need to check out each other's medical history.
		
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			You have to take blood tests, unless you know that family completely, because unfortunately, with
HIV being around, it's spreading all over the place. And I had a case this is a real case with a
brother was out in the dunya. And he was you know, you know, playing around everything. And then he
became Islamic.
		
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			And then he was telling everybody you know, your pants is too low and repeated and here he was the
model Muslim brother now. Okay. And then he comes to me and he said brother Abdullah,
		
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			and he was a doctor. This is the fitna.
		
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			The test that he was under, he said, when I was out in society, I contracted genital herpes. He had
herpes, okay, which is contagious? And he said,
		
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			but I want to get married? And should I tell my wife before I'm married? So Brother, what are you
going to do? He's going to, he's going to go all the way and get her. And she's just about ready to
say I do. And he says, oh, by the way,
		
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			I happen to have a contagious disease. No, he has to on both sides, you need to be very clear and
open with the medical history. And again, this is where the will lead comes in, to help in the
marriage. It says we have lots of resources and organizations in Melbourne. How can we unite these
organizations beyond diversity? And where should the Unity start. And as I was saying, it's
important for us to have, you know, some sort of measureless assura. If there are certain issues
that affect the whole community, then I listen to Jamal, we need to be able to come together, even
though there may be different emphasis that we have. We're all part of the same oma part of the
		
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			Mila. And we need to be able to overcome some of the minor differences and certain issues, that
doesn't mean that we have to be together and everything. Because there are some groups that have
that are more serious about Islam than others. But at some point, we have to realize that we are
part of the same oma
		
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			and Allah knows best.
		
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			In terms of boys and girls, it being mixed in the classroom, really, you know,
		
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			when when the children are very young, what's generally happened Islamic schools, when children are
very young, especially like under seven years old or something, then some of the schools will mix
once they reach seven, and especially going up by eight, nine and 10. At that point, it should be a
complete separation, it doesn't work. It doesn't work, especially when you're in the teenage phase
of life. It does not work. And so the Islamic education, you know, is like that gives us the freedom
of being the classrooms and not have to deal with the physical changes that that each gender is
going through at that time. It says,
		
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			if your husband swears at your parents,
		
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			what does the religion say about that?
		
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			Or should you stay with him or not? Of course, he shouldn't be you know, doing that.
		
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			It's not necessarily I mean, of course, we have to see the gravity of the situation. It's not
necessarily grounds for divorce, but it's a serious problem, and a counselor should immediately come
in.
		
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			because something is seriously What if he's disrespecting your parents? Then how can you respect the
woman herself? If he disrespects her parents? That she's part of the parents, and this concept of
the woman or the man or the woman, especially, you know, when she's married, he owns her now. Like,
he owns a horse. That's not Islamic. she's a she's a free individual. She has her rights under the
law of Islam, and she has independence in Islam.
		
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			It says
		
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			Also,
		
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			my husband always argues about religion, if I get him a hadith to argue until I get him the proof.
Okay. It's nothing wrong with with him arguing, debating, of course, it shouldn't be an angry
argument. Okay, but if you want to de Lille, that's okay. There's nothing wrong with asking for the
Leo. But he should also
		
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			put himself in the position. If he says do something, then she could say, Can I have the legal?
		
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			Right, let me let me if that's what he's gonna do. For everything that you say. You see, one of the
key issues in marriage is understanding.
		
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			If there's understanding between the individual you love each other for a law,
		
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			and not just because physical reasons, not just because we're in the same tribe, or he has a lot of
money, or she has a lot of money, if you're in Islamic work, if you're praying together, and you
have an understand, you can overcome a lot of these problems. But if the marriage is based on
material things on physical beauty, then the shaitaan has free rein to the household.
		
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			And so we all have to review our marriages and and really try to come closer together two things
together islamically travel, you know, to O'Meara and Hodge together,
		
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			go to martial arts or together witness what is happening to the Muslims do something in in
organizations helping the children of Iraq or Afghanistan, two things together. islamically and then
love will come in between you. If the if the relationship was only based on the dunya How much money
did you make this week? Right. How pretty Do you look in the mirror, and all these things tend to
say Tada, we will easily have rain inside of your house.
		
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			It said My husband is married to another sister secretly
		
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			from
		
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			And people
		
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			secretly from me, and people, if he is a man, why didn't he tell me?
		
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			We have five children. We're on welfare. He's working part time.
		
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			Okay, really, you know,
		
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			technically speaking, it's not a condition of marriage, that he has to inform his first wife.
However, it shouldn't be a secret marriage. Because in marriage, there is a LAN, there is
announcement. So it should be known, it should not be a secret marriage, why would he marry any way
secretly? Why is he doing that? So it is not Islamic, for him to be having a secret marriage, nobody
supports secret marriages, it's not part of nikka and Islam. However, it isn't really a condition,
it's not a condition for him to ask, you know, to, for his wife, to, to, to, to to agree, you know,
when he marries another wife, however, it is the wisdom, it is the understanding of Islam, that he
		
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			should discuss this with his family, even discuss it with their family, or whatever, and, you know,
have good reasons why he's doing this. If he's doing it secretly, that something must be wrong. And
really, the worldly again should step in our to handle this problem.
		
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			In terms of the there's a sister who knew somebody who recently was abused, and this is where I
would advise you to contact the authorities, or those in the organizations who are dealing with the
Islamic issues.
		
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			Okay, a lot of the questions are repeating themselves. It says
		
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			I'm a girl and I have one year from finishing school. I want to go back to my country and not to
stay in this country. I came without without a Muslim before and I don't have one now, is it
permissible? Okay, um, you know, it is if it is, you know, it is the Islamic way that she travels
with the Muslim. Some cases, there is a type of Aurora
		
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			type of a type of necessity that happens, where she could be taken to the airplane by by somebody,
and then the other people meet her on the other side of the airplane. However, it is, you know, the
most preferable the Islamic way that that somebody from from the family should come to travel with
her, when she travels back when she travels with maybe a group of sisters or something like this,
that this is the preferable Islamic way bla bla bla.
		
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			But one question is saying how to stop this type of social service organization that I was I was
speaking about, and this is hunter law in this community, from what I understand it has already
begun. There are people who are doing counseling now, putting the mountains on their back, listening
to the problems, and this is where professional people, if you're Muslim, you're a social worker, or
you're a doctor or lawyer, you should contact the leadership in esna. And other organizations, give
your give some of your time to the community.
		
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			Some of the lawyers in our area, we even give free counseling to some of the Muslims, okay, some of
the doctors would even give free care to some of the Muslims, we have to, you know, dedicate some of
our time to our community, because in many cases, it was the community to help you to get where you
are. So professionals should come forward are to deal with these problems, you know, that are
happening with with our, in our community.
		
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			Also, in terms of, of generally, in the dollar.
		
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			I encourage that the brothers and sisters also to begin to, you know, in a in a more in an organized
fashion. I know it's happening already, to to try to work together, the 100 of the group in Islam
has no signs and they're coming out on the public. This tower needs to go open. And we need to have
more programs in the open and go even into the reservations to the Aboriginal people. And to spread
this this message to everywhere in this island in Sharla. The last point I wanted to make this was a
very beautiful statement that the brother has said, and I wanted to end with this. And the brother
said Salaam Alaikum. I am a man destined to change my ways. I have for too long thought wrongly
		
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			about women. They are the Jews of Islam. I asked for forgiveness and I promise to treat my wife as
an equal, nothing more and nothing less. And hopefully she won't use her Tai Chi on me.
		
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			And you know, he thanked the organizers for this session tonight. And I pray that the loss of pounds
Allah would accept you in this statement that you have made May Allah accept your towball for
anything that has gone wrong and May Allah forgive us off what we
		
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			We are saying and what we are doing and bring us together as a community. May Allah have mercy upon
this woman and protect the honor and dignity of the women of the home of Mohammed Salah Salaam
Subhana Allah who would become deca duchateau en la Ilaha. illa Anta the stock photo corner to bow
Lake, WA Salaam wa Alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh