Why I Accepted Islam

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The guest on the show discusses their past as a Christian and their belief in the holy spirit, as well as their past as a hip hop member and their belief in the holy spirit. They also talk about the holy spirit's significance in worship and the history behind its implementation. The speakers emphasize the importance of fulfilling spiritual goals and avoiding comparison with other people's beliefs, as well as the need for educating people on their own religion and avoiding comparison with other people's beliefs. They end with a discussion of the history and potential of Islam, including its potential negative consequences and violence.

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			Hello
		
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			Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa Salaam Alaikum peace be unto you. Welcome to the show, which is
		
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			helping you understand.
		
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			And we have a special guest on the show today.
		
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			Thank you for coming.
		
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			I thank you for coming out How you doing? It's my pleasure. It's good, everything's fine. I'm
traveling around and stopped off in Chicago and found you under the law. So we brought you onto the
show today. We want to ask you a few questions. We heard that you weren't always milonga, have you?
How long ago did you set this? I became Muslim 15 years ago at the age of 20. At the age of 20.
Yeah. And before this, you were I was a Christian. Were you a practicing Christian? Not really. But
I was raised in that environment. I was somewhat of a practicing Christian as a Christian, would you
believe? I believed in the Trinity. And you know what this was? Yeah, definitely. Moses. You know if
		
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			you ever hear the Bible, yeah. My grandfather was a preacher. He founded a Christian cottage. So
okay, as far as knowledge, I had a lot of knowledge of Christianity. So you believed in the Trinity?
Yeah. The whole nine yards. Original Sin. Okay.
		
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			Yeah, the Lamb of God, the whole nine yards. Okay. So somebody was saying, like, man, from a point
of view of literacy, I was very literate. Yeah, this is my issue is I didn't believe it. So I didn't
practice. So could somebody say, look, this brother didn't know his Bible. This brother didn't know.
		
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			I went to church three times a week, three times a week. Yeah. Okay. So at what point in your life
did you make a turn? I would say early on as a youngster when I first started learning about the
concept of the Trinity, and just not being able to digest that God could be three or one of three,
that there was a Lamb who had to be sent to die for my sins. This is lamb. You're talking about
Jesus, Jesus, when I had studied even in, in the church, basically the Old Testament, that God
Almighty is the one who forgives sins, and he's the all powerful, magnificent, awesome God. So I was
like there two gods. There's a God of the Old Testament. And there's a new Pauline type God, which
		
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			appears in the in passages in the New Testament. So this started to not make sense to you. Yeah,
immediately. It didn't make sense to me. As soon as I heard it, it didn't make sense. Did you go up
to your higher ups, some of the priests, I went to my mother and I asked her, you know, we believe
that Jesus is the Son of God, He died for our sins. He's the sacrificial lamb. She said, Yes. And I
said, and that's the key. That's the key to salvation. Baptism is the key to salvation. And she
said, Yes. And I said, Well, what about the prophets who preceded him who didn't believe in Him?
They didn't. You know, they didn't you know, Abraham prayed to one God, Moses prayed to one God,
		
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			Jesus Himself didn't, didn't ever acknowledge that he was God, he prayed to God Himself. So what's
the deal? And she couldn't explain it to me. Okay, now, from here. What role did you start to lead?
Did you leave Christianity? Did you go and start to investigate? all that? I mean, most definitely,
we can say all religions have a lot of beneficial things about Yeah, especially in the area of
character and so on. So anyone who turns his back from any tradition, religious tradition, is it
gonna it's gonna collapse ethically, for the most part, so I wanted to kind of a gang lifestyle, hip
hop lifestyle drugs, or DJ or DJ Yeah, DJing and so on and so forth. And became really immersed into
		
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			that that subculture at that time, hip hop was definitely a subculture wasn't you know, like, you
see it now everywhere. So tell me this okay. So we got away from the concept of of God being a
trinity. Okay, this didn't make sense. And the whole thing was a difficult because you had a one way
ticket, a ticket now, as Christians believe if I take Jesus as my Lord and Savior is finished, I got
a free ride. How is some for some people it's hard to dis attend because it's like a lotto ticket.
No, no, no doubt that it was a tough decision to make theologically because I was raised that way
for so long. So I actually took three years to become I didn't become Muslim in in like, you know,
		
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			in a fly by night thing, I sat down and read the poor and read a few books about it. How'd you get a
hold of the Quran? I went to the library and checked it out. But was there something because was
there a stigma at at that time, like there is today about Islam, that again, because of hip hop, I
was pretty culturally literary. You know, I knew what the Quran was by listening to hip hop. So I
knew that it was who Muslims and I just wanted to go read something just, you were certain there was
always a feeling in the streets that Muslims were right.
		
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			There was a feel unfortunately that's changed now because many Muslims are engaged.
		
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			In bad things, yeah, in all areas, especially in the bad neighborhoods where they're selling pork
and beer poison to people, that image has been kind of hurt. But in those days, we because of
Malcolm X, specifically in this conversion, we saw Muslims as like our last anchor for, like
salvation and to get ourselves correct. We always said, Look, man, if you want to get yourself
correct, go with the Muslims over there. Yeah, just straighten you out. Uh huh. So this What
happened? You wanted to get straightened out? Are you looking to get straighten out or I mean, it
was kind of a mess. I had success as far as material success, but internally, I was very empty. So I
		
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			was, you know, asking myself why do you feel depressed? Why do you feel sad? If you have, you know,
girls, the money to DJ in the clubs, the Bloods, the gang I belong to? Everything is going well. But
why internally? Do you feel this emptiness? And then I realized that the only way to quench that
spiritual thirst was to race and discover who the creator was? Can God Be a man? Is that possible
for God to be a man? No, not at all. Why is that? Because God is unlike his creation, if we make God
like his creation, will start to warp is what worship is creation. But the one who has the right to
be worshipped has to be unique, different than everything else, he can be like his creation, because
		
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			Allah says mccrane wollemi, akula, Hakuna does nothing like God, you cannot make God's image. That's
why in the Old Testament, it says do not make my image Don't try to make the image of God. So if we
make him creation, the first color his question is, excuse me. The first question is, what color is
he? What does he look like? So you go to church, for example, you see, Ricky Martin is God, you go
to another church, it's, it's, you know, very white, you go to another church, and it's Axl Rose,
who's God? So when we make God a man, we immediately create injustice in society by making one man
better than another man. And tell me now, you said that God can't be a man.
		
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			That's quite simple. And Islam, it clearly differentiates God from his creation. Okay, how about God
having a son? Can God have a son? No, he cannot. Because the same argument applies if he has a son,
that makes him like his creation, then what color was the sun? What did he look like? What was the
shape? What language did he speak? Okay, so immediately when we throw that into the mix, we allow
other human beings to be in just two other human beings. That's the whole doctrine of Sham that you
see in the Old Testament where people say that the black man is cursed, or the white man is cursed,
because they were the sons of Noah. And then Jesus came, and this led basically to some, you know,
		
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			some very sick ideologies and philosophies. A few more points, and then we'll come to a close tell
us what is Islam? But before that, real quick, you mentioned the word Allah. What is this for
someone who's never heard this term along? What does this mean? Allah is the Arabic word for God.
And it's a little bit different than the English word because it cannot be given a feminine tense or
a plural tense, you just say a law you can say a lot like a woman or laws with an S or an S. And
also it means the absolute unique possessor of attributes and qualities, which nothing is even
remotely like him. Unique, awesome in his in his power, extremely merciful. This is Allah is one who
		
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			has the right to be worshipped. The name itself means the one who has the right to be worshipped. It
is right because we see people worshipping things all the time rather than worshipping drugs,
worshipping cars, worshipping girls worship and famous in their bodies. When we work out you see
autumn guys looking in the mirror is lifting weights. Now you didn't change man. There's not that
much blood being pumped into your muscles right now. But the idea of worship is innate to the human
being we've been created to worship. So if we don't worship the creator will worship something else,
and that leads to destruction. So Allah The name is the one who has the right to be worshipped
		
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			alone. subhana wa Taala it makes perfect sense. Tell us what does Islam say about this crucifixion?
And this, someone dying for your sin? Number one, we respect other religions and when we talk about
them, we shouldn't be rude or aggressively now. Allah says what so bernadina there are many left in
the Quranic says, You are forbidden to insult other people's God. Absolutely. So when we're talking
about this is this for the sake of information? But of course, as you know, the Quran clearly states
for malerkotla whoo, whoo hoo what I can show that they did not crucify Jesus. They did not. They
did not fulfill their dream of crucify, but it was only an image or a likeness of Jesus. So we do
		
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			not believe that he was crucified he was raised to the heavens, peace be upon him and he will be
sent back not as a prophet or the Son of God but as a human being and as a member of the Muslim
community toward the end of time. What about this original sin or someone dying for your sins, we
believe in original goodness.
		
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			Rather, we don't believe in original sin, we're not going to give a murderer an excuse for killing
somebody, we're not going to give a madman who goes out and harms people and molest little children.
Recently, I saw a man who killed a nine year old girl. That's why terrorism and Islam is forbidden.
It's forbidden to kill people. Those people could not use as a as an excuse that they were born into
Original Sin. We say no, you're born into original goodness, what you do with yourself. And there's
a book now by a guy named Mark Hauser from the University of from from Harvard, called the moral
minds. And he says, Every human being is equipped with what with a natural moral compass, which
		
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			leads them to be good people, if they if they develop that. So we don't believe in original sin. You
know, if you owe money, and I owe money, Hey, you got to take care of your own your own debt, I have
to take care of my own debt. It's not fair to blame you for my debt that will be injustice. And God
is not unjust. Yes, we can go on and on with all these. We're just trying to hit some points to give
you a beautiful taste about Islam. Tell us Brother, what is so unique about Islam because we hear
that so many people, women are coming to Islam to be more demand is so
		
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			what's so unique about this one thing is, first of all, the propaganda or the negative actions of
Muslims out there create in people's minds, the nightmare image of what Muslims are and who Muslims
are. But once I get close to our community, they you know, they eat some chicken bones with this man
hang out with us. They see how we are they see that we're, you know, people from the community,
we're here working for the good of America, we're not here to harm anyone to do anything wrong. It
kind of flips them out. And that causes them to say, Man, these people actually really nice, decent
people are very loving people, concern people, because Islam is pushing us not only to be good to
		
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			our Lord. But the other important aspect of Islam is to be good to immigration, no matter who they
are once a Jewish man, his funeral passed by the prophet as relayed by emammal body, and the Prophet
stood up. And the campaign said, How could you stand up? He said, this is a soul. This is a human
being. So when people see that we're not the terrorist, you know, archaea type this on TV, the
madman is gonna jump on a plane and do something wrong or harm someone. You know, they're shocked.
And then they want to learn and they see man they believe in Abraham, they believe in Joseph, they
believe in Mary they believe in in David and Solomon, I didn't know that, that they only believe in
		
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			some Arab guy, you know, and then they don't want to kill us. They, you know, they don't hate the
white men. So they see all of the true things about Islam, the simplicity of Islam, to worship God
to pray to be good to others. And they fall for it, man because they say, wow, this is the truth. So
these things touched my heart. And I already know these things. I can imagine someone who's really
got a sincere heart and open mind. I mean, this just goes down easy. Does Islam had anything to do
with terrorism? Not at all. Islam does not have anything to do with terrorism. And we we
categorically denounce without any any reservation or acts of indiscriminate violence all over the
		
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			world, in America, or in any foreign land. Any any act that's committed against innocent civilians
and innocent people is completely forbidden in this stuff. Tell us what the prophet said that a
woman who killed a cat, she tortured her cat like now we have michael vick, right? Nobody's in
trouble for torturing dogs. I was thinking the Prophet told the woman who tortured the cat like the
woman who has this quality, she doesn't repeat, she's gonna go to *, if that's the case of a cat,
Brother, what about human beings who live around us every day? You said, Prophet a few times. And
then he said, peace be upon him. So there's some word for someone's like prophet who they taught him
		
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			about this prophet. Can you explain what the prophet Mohammed and all of the prophets, we believe
had the same message when the dismissal of greed he died? He was alive in the seventh century after
Jesus peace be upon this has nothing to do with Elijah Muhammad or anything on Mohammed? No, none of
this No. x, Muhammad and 15th? None None of us. This is 1400 years ago, 1500 years ago, what did
this man bring, and what did he call the people to he brought a mercy as as as mentioned the Quran,
he was sent as a mercy to humanity. And he brought justice to people. He brought equality to people,
he brought the message of one God to the people. And he brought the idea that in order to be a good
		
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			worshipper of God, you have to be also good to the people. Both of these are combined. That's why he
said Seneca Amen, as Seneca mahalo can the best of you and faith are the best of you and character.
So he didn't just bring the fairest cynical understanding of religion, but he revived the message of
all the prophets to serve God and serve the people around you. If you can fulfill both of those, you
got to make me so that's the main message of Islam to worship your Lord with all your heart one god,
yes. And to do good to the people and be good to the people. And
		
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			we're gonna cut out just a couple more questions. Tell us now for the person that Okay, he's born
Christian. He's born in this faith or whatever. Like I said, we're trying to educate the people
because there's a lot of distortion out there about Islam, but tell us for the persons as you know
what I'm going to take a little bit from the Christianity I'm going to take a little bit from what i
think you know, is the best way to
		
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			God is this acceptable because you see that a lot of what you call this, if you prescribe organized
really I don't want to do for any organized religion. If you prescribe ecumenical, if you prescribe
your own religion for yourself, then you became God, you become a God, your God because you're the
one dictating what's right and what's wrong. But you have to submit, you have to admit, look,
there's certain things that I just don't understand and don't know. And I need to rely on a higher
power to teach me how to surfing. But if I go to the restaurant, right, if I go to the restaurant
and make up my own menu, I'm not gonna get served. I might, I might say, I want to look Hey, I want
		
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			some catfish, deep fried with some broccoli and some rice and they don't serve it. So I'll be
sitting there all night long with an empty plate. So although I might have visualized in my mind
something is not reality. Reality is you have to submit to what's on the menu. And what's on the
menu. Here is what God Almighty has prescribed because he knows better he knows better than we do.
We have to forfeit that. Allah Ya. Allah wa t Fabiana Khurana says this Gardiner no one knew about
you, but your situation he knows what's better for you. So we had to forfeit the desires brother
into arrogance and submit ourselves to our Creator and that's not easy. Check this out. Another
		
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			thing that's not easy all these religions claiming this is the way how do you get someone away from
all this? And how do you get someone to to acknowledge that this is actually a religion, a way of
life I like to call it from decrease I have no problem with someone compare religions go ahead and
compare that's fine. Go Go and read. But for us, we say very clearly, number one, the message of
Islam is clear and easy for anyone to understand. Number two, the message of Islam with regards to
other people is very clear and easy to understand. Number three, if someone researches the Quran,
researches the statements of the Prophet they will not find one inaccuracy in the Quran, or one
		
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			inaccuracy in the statements of the Prophet peace be upon him. And that right there is enough to
lead you you don't have in the front the gospel according to this person and the gospel according to
this person. This is the book of Allah
		
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			benefits before we call we want to know people want to know what's up if I'm going to submit I'm
gonna give up all the women and all the good times you know, I'm young I'm strong and I'm ready to
go. But now you're talking about submitting and you know, leaving all these good times. What's in it
for me in this life in here? Are those really good times? That's the first question. We used to come
home drinking one thought we had some good times. Got in right at 5am. You know, the club closed it
to felt like a wreck. Yes. Okay. And then later on in your life, you start getting sick because of
how you lived your life. So number one, are those really good times are those just perceived good
		
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			times. There's a woman who goes to the club and gets used by a different guy every week. This is
really a good time. A woman who walks around with no clothes on and people are salivating over her.
She's a piece of hamburger meat in the window. Is this really a good time to look at Britney Spears
look at Lindsay Lohan look at the finest women so so so called finest women in America b&c look at
their lifes, they're cracking in front of our very eyes go into drug rehab, having problems with the
chin, and we pray to God that God will help them to be good mothers. But we're seeing in front of
our eyes, those people who have had the best designs are those really the best of times the worst of
		
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			times. So let's ask ourselves, are these really the best in terms of we make our desires and our
passions that God was not the best of times? So by overcoming your desires and gaining some self
discipline, you gain the feeling that you never had before, of serving your freedom for the person
now that is penetrated his heart. And he's like, what do I do now? How does someone become a Muslim?
how easy it is to get in contact with someone but before they said, all he has to do is say, a bear
witness that there's no god but God and Muhammad is the Messenger of the Arabic, a shadow and
		
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			the comments for our for our visit. I just want to encourage people to get to know their Muslim
neighbors. Spend some time with us. And you'll see in sha Allah God willing, a good good
communities, a very, very beneficial community for the people here in America. And may God bless.
Brother, I like to thank you so much
		
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			for your for your efforts. Thank you. We hope to see you again on the show. I like to thank
everybody that's tuned in. Stay tuned for another episode next week on the show.
		
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			You
		
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			know God
		
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			receives his messenger