The Deen Show – UFOs Are THE JINN Will Tucker Carlson confirm – Experts on Aliens Confirming Jinn from the Quran

The Deen Show
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The conversation covers various topics related to the "naughty, dark, and dangerous" world, including the "naughty, dark, and dangerous" world, the "phenomenon," a non-urbanized, non-English term used by the Jinn, and the "monster factor" that causes people to feel attached to them. The speakers provide advice on reading the Quran and avoiding disclosing information, as well as providing resources for non-English learners to learn about Islam. They also suggest doing small experiments and avoiding disclosing information.
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Gin, what we were referred to as the gin. What happened was that he

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came home one night, went into his bedroom, and suddenly, these three

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dark, shadowy figures materialized through his wall into his bedroom.

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They were wearing the hats and the overcoats. There's enough going on

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in the skies, but not just the skies underwater that travel at

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insane speeds and go undetected. In a way, I refer to them as the

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gin, because a gin, you know, in Arab culture. You know, they're

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sort of like so now they're made out of quote, unquote fire or UFOs

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are real. We have proof. United States military has been studying

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them. She's just in a plane and filming out the window, and they

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had seen this thing, apparently. And she's trying to film it. And

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it

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shoots by the plane. This is the D

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we have very exciting episode for you, for those that have watched

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the recent not too long ago, episode with Joe Rogan and Tucker

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Carlson. Deeper level is

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what. Okay, so if they're spiritual beings, which I believe

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they are speaking about

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the supernatural, the unseen world of many call it the UFOs,

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unidentified flying object, aliens, I have a

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person here who with a team, not just by himself, but with a team,

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has committed to doing research and investigating this world that

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Tucker was speaking about with Joe Rogan books such as passport to

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begonia

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dimensions

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and then we have those creatures that they didn't identify. We're

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going to be identifying them here today with my next guest, who's

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written an essay

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called the gin hypotheses, a very good friend of mine, brother Eddie

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from the Dean show, who I've known for a number of years. From the

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very beginning, when he started it, I was among his early guests,

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and Masha Allah, our brother, Eddie, has been very active in

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promoting dawah, spreading the message of Islam, and he has now

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taken everything to the next level. Eddie has now, after a

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number of years on the Dean show, taking the Dawa efforts to the

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next level, which is that of establishing a Dawa center for the

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USA, he is about to launch it in its fullness, but it has already

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started in Florida, and he needs your support. This is an effort

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which began already some months back, and they need your support

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for spreading the message of Islam in the USA. So my brothers and

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sisters reach out to support him. We need your support now.

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Imran, Hussain, assalamu. Alaikum. How are you doing? How are you

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very good, bro, you watched this episode not too long ago where you

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had Joe Rogan along with Tucker Carlson, and they're describing,

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did you notice they're describing some creatures? Are they good or

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bad and

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and I think some of them are bad, yeah, but they didn't give it a

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name, yeah. What is it actually? I mean, now it's sort of, you have

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to ask, like, what is this? What did you think about that? Yeah,

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it's very interesting. Tucker Carlson's approach, from a

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Christian approach, which is to call it demons and angels. So the

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supernatural, as he's clearly blatantly referring to as it was

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very interesting, because up until now, when you hear about the UFO

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topic, or the UFO phenomenon, at least on the media and the TV,

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which has become very popular. You know, the government's been coming

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out with staff. There's been congressional hearings which we

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could talk about, you know, and all of this is happening. So it's

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interesting to see, because they, the angle they're taking is most

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likely, it's beings from other planets, extraterrestrials,

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aliens. Now, you know, Islamically Sure, there's that possibility.

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You know, the Quran doesn't directly speak about alien life,

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but there are Ayato verses in the Quran which allude to life being

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out there in the universe. So it acknowledges the possibility there

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is that scope within Islam to acknowledge the existence of alien

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life. So that's not a problem. However, when you look at what we

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know, what we're witnessing, as far as this phenomenon is

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concerned, and what's been discussed and what the

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whistleblowers have said, and what the government's coming out with,

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and what people have been experiencing over the centuries,

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as captured in these books by Jacques valet. You see that they

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when you look at the the aspects of the phenomenon, you see, well,

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it seems like it's something else. It seems like it's probably what

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we refer to as the gin. Now, we're not talking about Ghostbusters

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here, right?

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Hello, Ghostbusters. They're here.

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They catch the ghosts

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because people think they'll put you in a category like of

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Ghostbusters, yeah. Oh, you've been watching too much of these

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movies, yes. But what was fascinating about that interview

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is Tucker's actually he's talking about.

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What governments have put out there unclassified. Now that was

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classified, and you actually have seen and then whistleblowers who

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work for government agencies, so they're documenting these things,

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and now you're researching this also. And this is not something

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now that is

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connected to Ghostbusters somewhere in the desert talking

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about this stuff. I mean, the government's acknowledging it this

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congressional hearing, hearings on the congressional serious

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hearings, yep, hearings that they're having. People what

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testify, yeah, under oath, yeah, yeah. We had one recently. We had

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David grush, who was one of the recent whistleblowers to come out

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prior to him, Lou Elizondo, who hasn't been in a congressional

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hearing yet, but he was one of the first. But he was one of the first

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whistleblowers to come out. His book is coming out in the next

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couple of days on the topic, on the subject, which is going to be

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interesting. Then there was David fravor, a captain of one of the

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fighter jets in America, who basically had an encounter

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himself, and described Danny uni testified to what we saw under

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oath. So we had this serious congressional hearing. You have

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serious academics, Jacques Vallee. You know, he's probably the most

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well respected guy in ufology. These, Dr Jacques Vale, yeah. So

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what are they? They're taught, what do they name these creatures

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as aliens? What are they? Yeah. So it's interesting, because with

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Vale, when you look at his research and you study his work,

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you see, well, he doesn't favor the the ET hypothesis. He doesn't

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reckon, after all of his et, right, extraterrestrial, yeah. But

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there's a film, so you got UT. So they think, oh, that's just a

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classic, yeah, yeah, classic films. I mean, good films. But

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listen to what we're talking we're not talking about that now. We're

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not talking about Hollywood. We're talking about the real deal.

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That's Hollywood. Yes, absolutely. So this is real. I mean, this

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stuff's been, at least researched in a very real way. What is this?

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One, passport magone. This is one of his first books, Dr Jacques

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Vallee and Harry, who is Jacqueline? Who is he? Jacques

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Vallee was a computer scientist. It goes way back, you know, 40

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years he's been researching the subject. He's a PhD. As far as I

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know, a doctor like I said, the most well respected ufologist. Is

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he coming from a religious background? I know, a very sort of

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secular, empirical perspective, yeah, yeah, computer scientists,

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you know. So he's looking at this in a very objective what triggered

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him to look into this? I think it was a fascination for him. It was,

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it was an interest to him, you know. So he looked at, he studied

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it 40 plus years, I think, and his conclusion is, ultimately, he

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doesn't reckon his extraterrestrials or aliens from

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another planet. He's not a Muslim. He's definitely looked into some

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Islamic sources. Definitely looked into Christian sources, and what

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the Christian tradition has to say about angels and demons. He

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mentions the jinn in the introduction of his book

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dimensions. He mentions the word jinn. Now we're identifying what

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these creatures are, jinn, the jinn, and this is mentioned in the

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Quran, yes, and detail in the Islamic sources. So he mentions

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that. He mentions it from his research there. And you can tell

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he's done his research because he's looked at the Islamic

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tradition, at least to some extent. And he, you know, brings

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the idea of jinn into this whole phenomenon, you know, but it's

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interesting. Tucker Carlson, he doesn't mention the jinn. He's sat

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with a lot of different people who are experts. Why are you

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surprised? Because he's coming from a Christian perspective. One,

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yeah, secondly, he's, obviously, he's well connected, and he's

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getting information from the inside, from people. Do you think

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he heard this term Jim before we're listening, watching us? I

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believe so. I believe he has. I believe people like Jim Simi van,

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for example, who is an exci agent, he's got videos online, and he

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clearly, you know, unequivocally, says that he reckons this

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phenomenon is related to the jinn, and this is a non Muslim, non

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Muslim,

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yeah, there's video of he's saying, this is the jinn, in a

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way, I refer to them as a jinn, because a jinn, you know, in Arab

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culture, you know, they're sort of like us. They're made out of

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quote, unquote, fire. He's done his research, and now he's looked

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into the Islamic sources, and that's what we did with the

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program that we did. We had a qualified Jinn expert, someone

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who's done series on the jinn, and then we're listening to Tucker

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Carlson explain and describe what this is. And then he says, No,

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this is the jinn. He's talking about the jinn, yeah. And what's

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interesting it is Jim simevan, I reckon the reason he started to

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research into the jinn was because of the experiences he himself had.

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He hasn't come out openly with his full experiences, but he had

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experiences. He had something attached to him that also affected

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his family in a negative way. Now this concept of attachments or

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possession is there amongst the jinn too. We know this. This is

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one of the main things we know about when we think about the term

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jinn, or the concept of jinn is attachments and possession. Now

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here we have a non Muslim Xia agent who has engaged, who's

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interacted with this phenomenon, and say, has said that he has this

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type of attachment experience with this phenomenon. There's a place

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in Utah, for example. It's a very famous place now, Skinwalker

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Ranch. There's a whole new History Channel documentary on in our

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zone, there's different seasons, they have spoken about the

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attachment phenomenon, that when people go the military officials

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have gone onto the ranch, and they've left with what they call

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an attachment, something that's affected them afterwards, gone

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home with them, affected their family members and so on and so

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forth. What ranch? It's called the Skinwalker Ranch. What does this

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play? It's basically.

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A ranch in Utah, in America. Yeah, and it's apparently a hotspot for

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UFO and paranormal activity, for the gin, for what we'll refer to

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as the gin. It's a hot spot for the gin. Yes, that's, I'm

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convinced it is right, because the, again, the phenomenon people

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have witnessed there, the previous owners, current owners, etc. I

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mean, it's, it's linked. I mean, it's very, for example, creatures

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like dogs, you know, huge dogs appearing and walking, being dogs

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being shot out with massive guns and nothing happening to them, and

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then just suddenly the tracks disappearing and thinner. Weird

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stuff, you know, cows, the cattle on the ranch is just going crazy,

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being stacked on top of each other in a little shed, and no one knows

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how they got in there. Weird, strange things. They're

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documenting this, yeah, they call it the Trickster element of the

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phenomenon, you know. They call it, they say there's these. This

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phenomenon has this trickster element. It plays tricks on you.

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Wow. And we know the jinn play games with humans. They lie to

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people, deceive people. And deception is another thing.

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Jacques valet mentions in his research that this phenomenon

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deceives people, you know, prior to, for example, I think the 40s,

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you know, these beings, when they would abduct people, they would

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tell them, we're from Mars and stuff. And then later on, as

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people researched this and knew life didn't exist on Mars, then

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they started to change their story, oh, we're from this

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planetary system, or we were from here or there, you know. So

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there's deception involved in this whole phenomenon. Now, it's one

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thing, us talking about it, we know it. But then again, pointing

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back to Tucker Carlson, and then him giving the evidence. And then

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he he said, Tucker, that this is one of the biggest tricks that

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they played on the American public, is to convince people that

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these are aliens when they're from other planets, they're not. Can

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you elaborate on that? Yeah, if we get that cover, bro, that book,

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that mogoni passport to mogoni, this one, I mean, the cover is

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quite telling his or if you, if you look at this cover, you've got

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this, this being, and he has these different masks, yes, right? And I

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think it's very interesting symbolically, at least, because

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what it shows is that even ballet reckons that this the same

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phenomenon that's been appearing to people throughout the

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centuries, but taking on different guises or different appearances.

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Now, why would it choose to appear, say the jinn. Why would

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they choose to appear to people today in the 21st century as

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aliens from other planets? It's a very interesting question to ask.

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Well, one potential answer is, think about the psyche of the of

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the 21st century man. How it's very secular, very atheistic, very

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technological, right? So if you want to appear to people today and

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get people to submit to you. You need to appear as a race that's

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far superior to the human beings. You need to appear in a way that

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will be more readily accepted. And like we were saying earlier, you

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know, the concept of ET extraterrestrial life is more

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acceptable than to believe in spiritual or supernatural beings

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these days. And again, when you look at, for example, some of

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these. One of the pilots that testified under oath, not David

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grusch, fraver, Commander fravor. You know these things, these

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objects that they're seeing, are running circles around the best

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technology America has, wow, right? So, I mean, when you run

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circles around the best technology on this planet, what state is that

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going to leave you? And you're going to be in awe. You're going

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to be like, Wow, these beings, whatever they are, they're

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superior to us. So it creates this sense of submission. And we know

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the jinn throughout history, if you look at Arabic literature, is

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all that Jinn have appeared to humans throughout history in the

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form of gods and higher deities and higher beings, so that they

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would fall into worship to them, you know? And then this all goes

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back to the origin stories, bro. You know, when shaitan wanted to

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misguide the progeny of Adam, right? Because he felt he was

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superior to Adam. I am better than him, as he says in the Quran, as

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Allah captures, you know, it's almost like this phenomenon

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continues to show this symbolically, I am better than

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you. And what better way to sort of make the 21st century man

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submit to you than to appear in a, you know, highly technological

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civilizational form that's better than human beings, you know. Maybe

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that's one answer, you know. But, and I think it's very interesting,

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because if you look at Valley's work going back in history, these

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phenomena take took on different appearances according to the time

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and place, and appeared slightly more advanced than the technology

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of the time. Now it's not just you doing this, this research, you got

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a team with Brother Farouk mcdemo. He's a marshal arriva. Brother

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studied at Medina. He has studied this far longer than I have. He's

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always studied this over maybe two decades. So what are you guys not

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now? You're having discussions around the round table with your

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team, talking about this unseen world of the gin. Like, what do

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you what are you coming away with? I can imagine the conversation.

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Yeah. So one of the when we first started interacting, one of the

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first things we asked or discussed was, well, do we want to bring

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this out to the public or online? Do we want to speak about this? Is

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there any benefit in the DAO for the for this subject? And

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initially we didn't feel it was the right time, but now that

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there's been congressional hearings, that there's been

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whistleblowers, that there's serious academics studying this.

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Dr DW pisoka is another religious studies professor who studied

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this.

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A decade or so back, you had a professor from Harvard who was the

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head of psychiatry who did the whole book called abductions, on

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the abduction phenomenon. You have a recent paper that's been.

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Published on ResearchGate by three academics, two from Harvard as

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well, who are talking about this whole phenomenon. And they

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actually entertained in their paper, the crypto terrestrial

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hypotheses. And one of those categories, again, mentioned

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interesting that these are non Muslims. Are looking at the

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phenomenon, studying it, and they are seeing parallels, you know. So

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we thought, Now is the time to speak about this. Because if

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Christians are speaking about this, Tucker Carlson is coming

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out, giving the Christian perspective on this. As Muslims,

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we have the answers, you know. And if you look at the phenomenon, and

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you look at the jinn, and you put them side by side and compare

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them, you see that there are some striking similar similarities.

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There's hardly any differences. I am yet to come across something

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that cannot be explained via the jinn hypotheses. So in the essay

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that I wrote, it's an introductory essay, I cover sort of five key

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areas of comparison between the jinn and the UFO phenomenon, and

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to see the parallels between them, and they're quite a bit evident. I

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mean, like you guys were discussing on the previous show,

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Marshall, it's very it's evidence right there in front of you. You

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can see the links. Tell me when you look into some of these

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hearings and you're watching the in front of Congress, is it

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they're testifying? Yeah, you know what? What are some stories that

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stuck out, that are just mind blowing? You talk about this

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attachment and going to decision, so they don't mention the

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attachment in the congressional hearings. It was very specific to

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do with what they had heard from inside sources and what had, if

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they had, you know, this claim that they had crushed craft and

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all of this type of stuff right now, one thing to mention is, just

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because Congress or the US government is speaking about this,

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that's not the reason we're speaking about that's not the

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primary reason. The reason is, well, this has been happening

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throughout history. We studied the literature on this. Every culture,

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every civilization, has spoken about beings, these supernatural

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beings who are not divine, but there's somewhere in the middle

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between man and God and that they have, you know, affected people

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and human beings. So this phenomenon has been expected or

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experienced cross culturally, you know, throughout the generation.

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So there's not something new. And especially when we saw the

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interest in this subject by the non Muslim community out there,

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you know, who have not only heard this online or on the media, but

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have had experiences themselves. Many people have had these

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experiences. They don't believe in God, but they have these

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experiences. You know, it's an opportunity for us to show them

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what Islam has to say, and for them to therefore, hopefully come

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closer to Islam and discover the truth of Islam. Do you feel

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because you mentioned some books, these other books here. These are

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now books from Muslim authors. If somebody's out there and they're

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fat, because so many people, I forgot what was the exact number,

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but it was like a very high percentage, 50 or more percent,

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that you have Americans who believe in life on other planet

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and aliens, basically. So people, there's a fascination with this

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topic. I mean, you have this Dr Abu Asmaa, Bilal Phillips, yes.

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This is a translation of Ibn taymiyya essays, or the jinn. And

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this is a phenomenal book to read, by the way, because once, if

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you're a non Muslim, I mean, if, even if you're a non Muslim, yeah,

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and for Muslims as well, especially because what this does

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is it broadens your horizons of what the Jinnah. Because when we

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think about identity, what comes to mind, we think of possession.

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Yes, we think of fear. That's pretty much it. When you realize

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that the jinn could take on different forms, that they can,

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you know, they could travel in different ways. They can do

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manifest in different ways, affect people in different ways. When you

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learn about the world of the Jinnah, which is this book, you

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know, World of the jinn and the devils, yes, and by the way, the

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sheik in this book, he dedicates four pages to the link between

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jinn and UFOs in that book. And how does he make that link? He

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just says he, according to his research of the UFO phenomenon,

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that he thinks it's the jinn, it's the jinn. Okay, so he said, so

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it's not something I'm coming up with, or brother Faruq, or just

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something. So it's not UFO, it's the jinn, but the UFO phenomenon

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is now what they're attributing it to, unidentified flying. It's

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unidentified, but we're identifying it now as the Gen

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Yeah, absolutely. And now there may be questions people have,

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well, these are craft flying through the air. You know? How do

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you explain exactly? So these are what called the loose ends, right?

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Or the supposed loose ends. Now, the first thing to understand is

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that it's not just craft flying, flying through the air. When we

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talk about the UFO phenomenon, some of the stuff we discussed,

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like the attachment stuff, the deception stuff, the abduction

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stuff, there's a lot more to it right now, when it comes to craft

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flying through the air, there's some ways you could explain this

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one. Jinn could have their own technology, right? And I know it's

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going to sound crazy, but we know Allah refers to them, the Quran,

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as builders and divers. And Allah specifically referred to the jinn

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here as builders and divers. Now that's interesting. If they're

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builders, then they build things. We know they were build things for

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Sulaiman, you know, in the past. So they can build things. If you

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look at the historical records, the Arab records, you see that the

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stories of the jinn making things. So for example, in there's a very

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good book called The intelligent world of the jinn. It's an

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academic piece, but it was very interesting. The author mentions a

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story in there that the jinn would make swords, but they were not

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like human swords. They were far better than human swords, and they

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had special powers, and they could do certain things, etc. So this

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was an interesting example, because.

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Shows, once again, Jin trying to outdo the technology of human

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beings, and succeeding in that. So if they can outdo the technology

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of human beings, as far as swords are concerned in history, well,

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now we have fighter jets. So they could just make these, quote,

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unquote, UFOs, these craft that can outmaneuver and outdo the best

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technology, as far as fighter technology is concerned today. And

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it's possible for them, because they are builders. They can build

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things. You know, we have examples of this. So it could be possible

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that these craft are just crafts that the jinn had built, and they

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are controlling somehow. Again, the rest of the speculation, Allah

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knows best how that works, but it's a possibility. It's not that.

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It's an impossibility. Secondly, we know that sometimes there's

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counts of these craft appearing and just suddenly dematerializing

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and disappearing. A lot of times, people don't see material craft.

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They see balls of light, orbs, you know, floating through the air. So

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these could just be Jinn themselves, just taking on

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different forms, inanimate forms, for example, you know, again, is

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that maybe that's a possibility. Just like they can take on forms

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of human beings or animals, they could potentially take on the

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forms of inanimate things,

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Sheik al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, he mentioned some examples in his

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books, as well, of certain Sufi sheikhs appearing to the disciples

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in the middle of nowhere and helping them out and then

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disappearing, you know, jinns speaking through birds, you know,

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and all of these. So they can do there's all of these stories about

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them. So I guess those are two ways of to sort of square that

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circle, if you like, and just couple more questions. He

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mentioned in this interview that he describes them in the ocean, in

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the air, traveling at such fast speeds, when we connect that to

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the Islamic sources, what we have, yeah, does that connect 100% two,

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two narrations come to mind. So in the Quran. There's the verse I

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just mentioned, which is that Allah refers to them as builders

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and divers, right? So they do divers is an attribute that

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subscribe to them. The link to the water. We know there are

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narrations where the throne of shaytaan is over the water. I

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thought about that, yeah. So there's the other that's another

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link.

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You know, there's something else coming to mind. It's just gone

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now, but there are several links late. So when you watch that

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interview where you just like now and your team and you, you wrote

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this essay, the gin hypotheses you you've been studying this for

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years, when you watch this interview with Tucker Carlson,

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were you like at the end, just like this gin expert I had on,

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yes. Who made the series? Did you say this is the jinn 100% 90 900%

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I am currently, and I'm I'm open to changing my mind if I have

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other evidence. So for me, what will change my belief on this is

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if I could see something about the phenomenon, the UFO phenomenon,

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which cannot be explained via the jinn, and currently I haven't come

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across anything. Yeah. So therefore, for me, that hypothesis

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holds, right? And although, like I said, Islamically, sure, there's a

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possibility we can accept that there's extraterrestrial life, but

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I think if you look at what's going on, this is the best

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explanation. I think me as a layman in the topic, just from

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what I know identified as a jinn. And I think most Muslims, 100% who

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also know Islam, and

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the little that we know, we identify this the gin is not hard

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to connect. No, no, I will. And the narration, sorry, it's just

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come to mind with the process. And I'm saying that the Jinn of three

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kinds, you know, those that appear as dogs and snakes, meaning, take

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on physical forms, those that fly through the air, yes, and those

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that come and go. So fly through the air. I mean, what UAP and UFOs

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do? They're flying through the air at fast, rapid speeds. You know,

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we know the story of the throne, when Suleiman Islam asked for the

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throne to be bull and the Kareem, you know, the jinn boy within the

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blink of an eye. Yeah. So they have certain abilities and

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capabilities that we don't have, that we're seeing being displayed

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by these UFOs today. All right, so as we conclude now, two two

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messages now for we'll start with the Not Yet Muslims and non

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Muslims. Come to the Muslims what I was thinking and tell me for

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them. Now, can you see this as a way for them? Now, okay, reading

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these books and coming closer to even, what advice would you give

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them to look into not just this, but Islam? Because, all right, we

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have other descriptions of unseen things. If Islam is right on so

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many things, you know development. You know when we have the human

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embryo, for instance, you know the mountains actually stabilize, and

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other other things that are there in the in the Quran, that it's

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unfathomable that you have a man who cannot read or write, Prophet

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Muhammad, peace and blessings. He's He's just coming up and

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guessing all of these things. It's not really a guess, right? Yeah,

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it's too much. Then you have the Hellfire paradise. But over here

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now we have this for the for the alien lovers and what? Yeah, so

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now he's talking about this unseen world of the jinn, but then we

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have the unseen world of the Hellfire that's coming paradise

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that should be even taken more serious, yeah. So connecting it

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all. What advice would you give? Yeah, I mean, two pieces of

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advice. One, I would say, is read the Quran and see what the Quran

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says about the jinn. There's an entire chapter dedicated to the

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jinn beyond that chapter, Allah, God addresses the jinn throughout

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the Quran.

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Surah Rahman, for example, men and jinn are both addressed. Their

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purpose is the same as.

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Which is to worship God. So that's what we were created. Whether we

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do this or not, that's a different question. So read the Quran and

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see what the Quran says about the jinn. The second thing I would say

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is, and I know there's many people out there that have experiences,

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phenomenal experiences, with certain beings or creatures or

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weird paranormal experiences, right? I would say, do little

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experiments for yourself. Play the Quran in your house. Because we

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know playing the Quran, especially the second chapter of the Quran,

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Baqarah, is profound. It has a powerful effect when people do

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Rukia, which is the removal of jinn from a person that's attached

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to a person, it's reciting Quran upon them. Do a little experiment.

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If you're having issues with this stuff, you're experiencing this

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stuff. Play the Quran. Play the Quran and see how that what

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impact. So do that physical experiment for you. Go find it

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online, the Quran. Just type the Quran on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. 100%

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try it. Play it and see if that makes a difference in your life.

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See the activity cuts down and disappears. You know, that would

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be proof for yourself right by staring you right in the face, you

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know. So that's why I would advise non Muslims to do it. And at the

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very least, even if you don't believe in God, when you read the

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Quran, you'll find a very powerful angle to this whole topic. You

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know, because scientists are starting to research this now look

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into this, and they're scratching their head, and they don't know

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what's going on, yeah, because we know there are maybe elements they

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could study, but there are certain aspects of this phenomenon which

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are beyond the physical. They're not gonna be able to understand it

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completely. So you have to take a multidisciplinary approach to the

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subject, you know, you have to look at the science, you have to

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look at the philosophy, you have to look at, you know,

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anthropology. You have to look at religion as well. You know, don't

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just dismiss religion. Look at what religion has to say and look

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at what Islam has to say in specific, particular so that's for

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the non Muslims. That's what I would say. Look into Islam. And

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now closing for the for the Muslims. Now you have the Quran,

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the Sunnah, I can't imagine now. And you have, you have so many.

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This is another thing that just mind blowing, along with the

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living miracle the Quran. Then you study the life of Prop Muhammad,

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peace and blessings be upon him. And then you have, let's say, a

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book like fortress of the Muslim, yes. And you have so many, what we

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call supplications, dua, yes, for protection, against attachment,

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possession, right to be protected. Your eth God, right? So what would

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you say to the Muslims to take this more serious? Yeah, so few

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pieces of advice for the Muslims, because I know sometimes we have

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the tendency of going down these rabbit holes with these subjects

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and topics, right? So I wouldn't recommend anyone to do too much of

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a deep dive into dive into this topic. The reason we're discussing

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this and sharing this because it's public now everyone's talking

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about this. We need to show them what Islam has to say in regards

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to this topic, right? At least one perspective. So don't go too far

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down this rabbit hole, right? It's not going to benefit you too in

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any way. Secondly, yes, you have to protect yourself, because

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shaitan is there. Was was there, right? He is continuously

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affecting us. We have a Kareem that's attached to us, you know,

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that's attached to us from the very beginning. Every single one

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of us has that that wants to misguide us and take us away from

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the straight path. So we have to protect ourselves through athkar,

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like you mentioned, get the fortress of the Muslim. Read

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AYATUL kursi, you know, recite that regularly, especially when

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you sleep at night, the colds, three goals. Recite those, protect

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yourself, because you don't even realize how much we're being

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affected by shaitan on a daily, hourly basis, every single day,

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you know. So it's important to protect ourselves from this

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perspective. And thirdly, third thing I'll say is, if and when,

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quote, unquote disclosure happens, say the government comes out and

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says, Yes, you know, there's life out there. I want Muslims to know,

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look, because, you know, there's some people throwing this thing

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out there. Oh, what is this going to mean for world religions? If

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alien life is discovered, or these other beings are discovered, is it

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going to crumble people's faith? Well, not for Islam, not for

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Muslims, because we only have one explanation. We have two

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explanations. We have the jinn explanation as a potential

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explanation. And yes, Islam allows for the concept of beings on other

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planets that Allah has created. Allah has created and scattered

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throughout the heavens and the earth. So either way, whatever

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they say, you know, whether they say it's aliens or they say it's

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another being that's been living here, we have an explanation. We

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don't need to worry. It shouldn't shake anyone's faith in any way,

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shape or form. You know, it's just, it's what's if anything is

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profound, that Islam has the answers even to this mystery that

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we're facing today, absolutely. And where can people read this

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essay that you've done on the jinn Yeah, so this is on the Sapiens

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Institute website. If you just type in Sapiens Institute Jinn

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hypotheses on Google, it should come up. But where you can go to

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the sapienstitute.org website and you can read the essay there. So

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that's probably the best source that's currently there. But we

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have also a website that we've started, iREP dot world. So I R,

00:29:26 --> 00:29:30

E, P, Islamic research into exotic phenomena. Dot world. So that's

00:29:30 --> 00:29:33

just a startup right now. We're just trying to put something out

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there for people, Muslims and non Muslims that had experiences that

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can't contextualize them within come and learn about Islam and

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hopefully find answers as well. Isn't that what that remind me

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that lovely brother, sapiens. Hamza sources, yes, give him my

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love, yeah, mashallah, yeah, he misses you, bro, yes, mashallah,

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I'll definitely give me Islam. All right. Thank you for sharing. May

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Allah, bless you. Islam. You too. Welcome. Saram Kat.

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