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Tell us what would you do? How would you respond to me we've seen some in the media, you know, you're coming out of a mosque or Masjid or an event and, you know, a family gathering. And then outside of the mosque, you had someone holding a sign saying, Go back home.
How would you respond to this?
If I go back home, I go to Houston, because Houston is my home. I was born here in Texas. So if I go back home, that's where I go back home. Yeah. And submission to God is universal message. So wherever a person lives or creature lives, that's their home. Yeah. And in other words, the submission to God is something that should be done regardless of where
person is, how's your relationship with Jesus. Now, as opposed to them.
If you read the New Testament, and you simply don't know what's going on, you find a character that you believe intended, good, but is very mixed up.
And that would be the view of Jesus. Now, now with Islam, you can then understand what Jesus was about, which was, essentially, he believed that it was his role from God to show Israel how to be the example for the world to follow in submission to God and taking care of their fellow creature. And eventually, when he felt that he was rejected by Israel, if you check, say, for instance, Matthew 2143,
he told the leaders of the Jewish community that the kingdom of God should be taken from them and given to another nation or
our community that would in fact, do what they were told to do. And then for instance, if you check, john, you'll see that there was to come a comforter, who would be a perfect guide. A
lot of Christians, for instance, might say that this refers to God, the Holy Spirit. But then again, if you check the same source, you see that this computer had to be told what to do. In other words, he didn't speak of himself, he spoke about someone else told them. In other words, he could hardly be a God who doesn't know what to say, or has to have someone tell him what to say. You've written a book called The Last Christian Yes. What's this book primarily focus on? Okay? It it isn't. The theme that it is involved in is trying to differentiate the Jesus of history, the person who actually walked the earth and the Jesus of faith. The first half the book is largely concerned with
trying to explore how the Jesus of faith came to be. The second half is trying to put together the Jesus of history. The book is called the last Christian because Jesus, the historical character, you know, is not the same as the Jesus of faith. So in that sense, he's a Christian. Also, problem you have in trying to reconstruct the historical Jesus is you can find indications or you can find things that indicate what the historical character was, but very often, you can say, Well, I know I got something here, but it's hard for me to say how firm it is. So it'd be much like you're building a structure or house where say, Well, I know I got a piece of straw here, this piece what I even
think I have a board here. And that's, in that sense, he's his last Christian because you can't completely reconstruct the historical Jesus. Now, what you do find is that all the indications of the historical Jesus do not conform with the Jesus of faith, you know?
Amazing. We're gonna we're going to take a break and then we're going to take some questions from our live audience when we come back. Okay, we'll be right back here with more here on the dean show.
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Welcome back to the deen show. And we're here with the author of the last Christian David. Mr. David, thank you again for being with us. We're gonna go ahead. We're here in Texas, y'all. And we're gonna go ahead and get some questions from the live studio audience here. In addition, follow me. All right, it's not the Oprah show. This is the Jean show. And we have our brother, Mujahid.
Please step up here.
A question for David.
Yes, David Solomonic.
Within the 50 years, as I hear you have extensive history in regards to speaking to people about God in the message of God. How did that differ whenever you embraced Islam?
It's very rare that we actually see Muslims going to places and, you know, knocking on people's doors or kind of doing the sort of kind of evangelical work, let's say, Do you find that it's a bit different now to talk about God, or the format? And not necessarily going to the people maybe like you had in the past? How did that change? How do you deal with that? Now, a big difference, if you're going to be like a Christian missionary, or preacher and that sort of thing. When you talk about God, you're primarily talking to people because you want to get them into heaven, because you want them to believe in the divine sacrifice, God's divine Son, when you're talking to people in
Islam, you're trying to
tell them the message of all the prophets, which is also the message of Jesus, that they should make Gods central to their life, and they should show or prove it by taking care of the fellow human being. And you would then
when you talk about Islam, you'd simply tell them that essentially what you have in Islam is you have a tried and proven living community that has done just that, that has a record of how to do that. And that is what you speak about. You speak about Islam. Thank you.
We're going to move on to the next question.
young, young young brother, please come up, step up here and go ahead and ask you a question. Two,
David, go ahead. It's not like them.
I've heard there is an Old Testament recording that says, to tell to be able to distinguish a true prophet and a false prophet and the False Prophet, or will be the one who tells false prophecies, they prophesize about something that doesn't come true. Now. So we have this issue, or this conflict of the teachings of Paul, and Jesus Christ, peace be upon them.
What are some of the prophecies of Paul? And did they come true? Okay.
at some time, during Jesus's
time on Earth, his ministry, he came to the conclusion that Israel was not going to accept Him as their Messiah. And He then said, according to say, Matthew 2143, that God's kingdom would be taken from Israel, and we'd be given to another nation or another community that in fact, would do what they're told to do. Now, Paul, who would either was either who was Jewish scholar, or partisan or zealot, this didn't go down very well with them.
According to the record, as one finds it in the New Testament, he first was a persecutor people who follow Jesus, then he had a nervous breakdown. And after his nervous breakdown, he said that Jesus came to him in a series of visions and dreams, and he told them, you know, his message, and you find that in this message, you have a different Jesus from all the indications of the Jesus who actually walked the earth. Now, Paul, the thing remember about Paul is that Paul said, Everything he taught or preached or believed or said or did came from Jesus now, in two occasions, for example, Book of First Corinthians chapter seven, Paul tells the people that Jesus is time when he's gonna be coming
back is so short, doesn't matter that if they rejoice, don't rejoice, Mary, Mary or don't marry, buy or don't buy doesn't matter. Now, this is 1900 years ago, this didn't happen. You'll find in the fourth chapter of First Thessalonians that he was telling his audience that people from Destiny, that before everybody there was dead, Jesus was coming back, this didn't happen. Now remember, he said that Jesus
told him everything that would happen in the future. And Paul, certainly at some time during his lifetime believe that Jesus was God. So Paul was saying that God told him this and that it didn't happen. So either you should believe God told him this or that is Paul making a mistake. And where this is a test of a profit is you'll find in Deuteronomy, chapter 18. It says, at a profit, if he's if he speaks in the name of God, and He tells you something's going to happen doesn't happen. It's a false prophet giving a false prophecy. And don't listen to him. Here in Texas. Thank you very much. And we're gonna go to the next we have time for one more question. Young man, young man, please come
up and ask you a question.
So now when it comes to the Wait, hold on before you start you were in Texas, I haven't heard nobody say y'all
How you doing? No.
Yes. You mentioned earlier that some people may see throughout your your time as a Muslim, that people have seen Islam to be foreign.
What are some things that you think that practices that Muslims Muslims can undergo in order to eliminate that? or what have you seen through your lifestyle that Muslims have practiced or that the procession had been from non Muslims concerning this? Okay? The question of perception is you, you have a community that is distinct, or different. And Muslims should just simply concentrate on being if they're distinct or different and being distinct or different, in a good way, which is what Muslims are supposed to do. Supposed to make God central to life and take care of their fellow human being.
And as long as they practice that
Thank you very much. And that is it. For now. We're gonna take a break. And we're gonna be back with more. here live the deen show in Texas, y'all sit tight.
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And if we're gonna worship something, I figured I might as well worship the Creator, instead of any of the creations.
Now, upon investigating the villages, I remember finding out the meaning of what Islam is what a Muslim is. Those who surrender their self to God is a Muslim. Those who cement that submit to God, God's will. That is, Islam was pure. It was just, you just pray to God, your Creator.
Back here on the deen show live in Texas. And we're here with David, the author of the last Christian. We have a few more minutes before the show comes to an end. And I have just a few more points I want to cover. Did you get a chance to watch these senate hearings with the Pepe King peter king? only for a few minutes? Yeah, I really didn't get to watch that much of it. They were
coming together discussing the radicalization of youth. So basically, when you see some of the politicians who are really supposed to be working to create understanding, you know, between the people bringing people together, but we really want the politicians and people out there to understand us better because maybe they have good intentions but they miss misunderstanding us. Okay, so here's here's what I what I would say. Yeah. The question is about whether Muslims are or not good citizens. The Constitution defines what a good citizen is in the preamble. It says, We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice ensure domestic
tranquility, to provide for the common defense promote the general welfare, to secure for sale for posterity. The blessings of liberties do establish and ordain this constitution United States and a Muslim they can say that as a good Muslim. And most Muslims can say that most Muslims will embrace it. Most Muslims are good Americans. That's right. I like that. Mashallah. So before we come to an end, tell us now where can people if they want to read your book, The Last Christian, where can they get this? Okay?
simply remember, the title is Christian, go online, you can go to either amazon.com or Barnes and Noble. The people who actually publish this book are authorhouse
Like I'm the author, and I live in house, author house, go online, they sell the book as well. They also sell it as an E book. Hopefully a Texas company, Texas, global traders will also soon be selling the book. It's remember my name, David Goggin, and the title is Christian and you can simply buy it online. That'd be the quickest, easiest way to do it. I like to thank you and any closing comments, for those who are out there, and the way of life that they're living? They're not happy with it's confusing, and they want to step out of the confusion. And they're just a little bit timid, you know, culture class, sometimes they see Muslims as people who they just can't identify
with, but they can identify with Islam. What advice do you have for them.
Islam is practiced way supposed to be means peace, it also means the best form of life. And others if a person makes God the center of their life, and by doing so they take care of their fellow human being. They make the world a better place. And that is what Islam is all about. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. May God Almighty the creator award you for being with us. Thank you so much. And thank you again for tuning in to another episode of the deen show. You might not like spicy food, either, do I? You might not like dressing a certain way you like dressing your way, as long as in a modest way. Don't worry about it. You can do it. In Islam. It's all good. As long as it's
pleasing to the Creator, the heavens and the earth. And as you heard our guests say, making God the central point in your life, just worshiping God, not worshiping Jesus, not worshiping statues, icons, idols, monkeys, elephants, none of these things, only worshiping the creator and doing good doing good to your neighbor, doing good to your parents, doing good to your fellow brothers and sisters in humanity. This is what Islam is about. And you met an American. You met an American we've interviewed Romanians, Hispanics, Islam is the fastest growing way of life in the world. And thank you for coming to the source to learn about the most misunderstood yet fastest growing way of life
in the world, Islam practiced by over 1.5 billion. You can be a Muslim too. You can be a Muslim too, because a Muslim is simply one who takes that free choice that they have of either submitting to the creation of God or submitting to God and you know what the right thing to do is submit to the one Jesus submitted to that's the one God the one create tour and do good deeds do righteousness. And this is what Islam is calling you to get a free copy of the Quran call the number on the screen one 800 662 Islam read the verbatim Word of God
and continue to come back here to the deen show. Until next time, we started with people we end with peace Peace be unto you. So I'm gonna see what everyone's talking about. You find one contradiction it can't be from God.
But the rational idea the rational explanation is you do your best to give up worshiping God is why I will never give up spreading this hope that you take the necessary steps you don't know if you're gonna live till tomorrow.
So you got to find that urgency to do the right thing right now.
If you say that you do not believe in Jesus you have stepped outside of Islam you cannot be a Muslim is attended our phase two
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