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The transcript discusses the history and significance of Islam, including the origin of the term "monster" and the importance of finding out who is in love with someone. The segment also touches on the importance of peace and finding peaceful means for Islam, as well as the misconceptions of Islam and its negative consequences. The segment also mentions a documentary called Islam on terrorism and the need for cooperation in common values. Finally, the speakers emphasize the importance of promoting Islam and promoting people to come together.

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			His name is I believe Adam book, I actually empathize with the people of Gaza. You know, they have a
term called jihad, which is a holy war. It's a two part war. One is the spiritual struggle
internally and one is the external struggle, which literally means killing people on behalf of your,
your belief. But people think there's some something that Muslims inherently they hate Jews or when
the Prophet Muhammad went to Medina, he uplifted Jews and women. How did he do that? Let me quote
you, Paul, a Jewish scholar by the name of Dr. David Borenstein, he wrote, Islam saved the jury,
Miss Islam save the Jewish people. So the number one reason that he gave is that the Jewish people
		
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			they were at the brink of extinction, who told you that the Arabs were going to kill us? We had
great relations with the Muslims in the Arabs back in the day. You know, his family lived in Hebron
and has had a family in Jerusalem that always had, you know, Jewish minorities. He said we had great
relations, we shared the same values. We had a similar culture, you know, we all treat each other
with respect, there was only the only one that made me I always had
		
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			hopes in Jordan Peterson but
		
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			that he failed and Palestine is free. People like him are going to be ashamed that they did this.
Now I really have hopes in Patrick Patrick. On the contrary, the Muslims and the Arab people were
for us, our friends and our patrons, the ones who protect us and provide a safe haven. This guy
right here. He's not trying to build a Dallas engineer country. I'm not talking to you right now.
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			Fidel Sulaiman has a master's in Islamic Studies is an international speaker or filmmaker and
presenter of Islam. He started the bridges foundation in 2005. With the aim of connecting people of
different backgrounds to help them understand Islam and Muslims. He has made three films about Islam
the series are called the fog is lifting Islam in brief and Jihad get this jihad on terrorism and
which has been translated into 31 languages. Now, something that's very interesting that we're going
to be talking about, he's actually been implementing because recently there has been a lot of talk
about the discussion, the debate of the year and the PBD puck cast with Patrick Ben Davis. So he's
		
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			been actually implementing Patrick's vision of Muslims and Christians and others working together
against what Patrick calls the greater enemy. What he has to share is very interesting to say the
least. But first, first, we're going to have him react to something else that was just I think,
yesterday or day before yesterday, what was broadcast on the PDB PBD podcasts regarding Islam,
Muslims, and G hot so let's get into this clip. And we'll get right into bringing our next guest
out.
		
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			For the faith of Islam, show, welcome to today's show, the deen show.
		
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			20 expert, but I've been there a bunch and I know people and I have friends and this is this is you
know, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East not even close. And so you asked like Who are
your allies? PPD is coming out with a book called choose your enemies wisely. Look, I actually
empathize with the people of Gaza. You know, they have a term called jihad, which is a holy war.
It's a two part war. One is the spiritual struggle internally and one is the external struggle which
literally means killing people on behalf of your your belief, but us salam alayka we start with the
greeting of peace, peace be unto you. How are you doing? Wow, I
		
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			love our cattle.
		
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			Long time no see. Yes, yes. Good to have you on the program again. Yeah. So you got to see this clip
down. Oh, yeah, I'll before before we get into Patrick's vision, you got to see the discussion
debate of the year. And we were going to do some commentary on that and give some practical actually
you going deeper into this? With the whole alphabet movement and everything else. This came up. This
is your specialty. This is what your documentary revolves around his term jihad. Yeah. How did you
react to this? This is I believe, Sam, when I was down there, I actually got to meet Patrick, really
nice guy. And we had a good time together. And then actually, I met Vinny. Vinny is also someone who
		
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			is part of the podcast met him real nice guy. He actually has a show me his tattoo. He has an Arabic
He has, I think it was if I'm not mistaken. 100 Allah tattoo. Oh, praise to God. Yeah. Last week
alone. 200 Palestinians were killed
		
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			them both Amin, amin, and this one I believe I didn't meet him. His name is I believe, Adam. And
we're going to assume Adam, like most people, they just hear what they've been kind of programmed
through through the media and much of the hate industry, the Islamophobia industry. So they catch
these things, these talking points. How do you address this? How would you react to Adam and others
who got to hear this misinformation, they have a term called jihad, which is a holy war. It's a two
part war. One is the spiritual struggle internally, and one is the external struggle, which
literally means killing people on behalf of your, your belief. But funny thing is that he said that
		
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			Jihad means holy war, actually, holy war is a Christian term first heard in the Crusades, Pope Urban
the Second, who launched the Crusades by calling all Christians in Europe, to war against Muslims in
order to reclaim the holy land. And he cried out the US volt, God wills it. So the word holy war, by
the way, in Islam, war is not holy. God acknowledges in the Quran that Muslims hate war, God said in
Surah Al Baqarah,
		
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			which is chapter number two, Sign number 216. Could you be alive communicators who
		
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			combat has been prescribed upon you, even though you dislike it? So God actually acknowledges that
Muslims, this like war, and then he says, but it may be that you dislike something while it is good
for you. And maybe that you like something that is bad for you, for Allah knows, and you know, not
so God prescribed, not holy war, combat to tell all Muslims, but there is actually a combat code
which is along with you. And it's a long talk about that, but warrant Islam, is haram forbidden,
except it is in the form of jihad. What is react to cut it short, jihad is war on terrorism.
		
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			And that's why we need to know what is terrorism. You know, that in 2005, Eddie 150 monarchs and
presidents met in a summit in the United Nations to define terrorism. And after three days, the
summit ended without a definition. You know, why? Because when they accept the definition of
political scientists, at least 50% of them have to go to jail immediately. Wow. Yes, of course,
according to political scientists.
		
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			Terrorism is targeting non combatants to support a political or an economic agenda, targeting not
killing because you may target people and you don't kill them. Maybe you just injure them, just
targeting them, makes it terrorism. And it's non combatants, not civilians, because some civilians
are combatants, and they are called militia. Those are actually legal targets but
		
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			targeting non combatants to support a political or an economic agenda. And And this means that most
of the terrorism that is carried out is carried out by states state terrorism not actually
individuals or groups alone. Look at chapter number four suit anisette sign number 75 It says women
Allah can lead to hurt Ilona FISA, de les he well most of us in in originally when he said it will
will then it means God is blaming Muslims if they don't go to combat in this case, and what is the
matter with you that you do not combat in the way of Allah and for the ones deemed weak and
oppressed among men, women and children. Those who are non combatants suffering from oppression,
		
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			those are what they are suffering from terrorism. So Jihad means war on terrorism. God is telling
Muslim
		
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			How come you don't fight terrorism? Jihad equals war and terrorism, but the real one, not war for
oil, and then call it war on terrorism. So I wish that this person, this man who appeared saying so
would educate himself better about jihad. He has to understand how come the word jihad scares people
in the West, but people use it to name their children, even girls, you can find a three year old
girl with rosy cheeks, and her name is jihad. She doesn't My name is you have, why would Arab people
or Muslim people call their children girls? Jihad is definitely something beautiful, something nice.
He has to understand what it means, because this gap in understanding it is really dangerous. That's
		
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			it.
		
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			What's your comments on this? This is the statement of the last front of Mr. Simple to mankind
Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. You seeing this up on the was this this is way
before the Geneva Conventions? Yes, exactly. And these are actually the commandments of Prophet
Muhammad to the
		
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			actually of Abu Bakr Siddiq to the army of husana, which was a 16 year old chief of an army whom
Prophet Muhammad wa sallam wanted to
		
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			mobilize him and with his army, and then the Prophet died. So they were mobilized by Abu Bakr
Siddiq, the first Khalif and he told them exactly these instructions, which are on a poster in the
United Nations. It actually it is I think, the the Red Cross in in Geneva.
		
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			You see Adam here on the PPD podcast, he starts off with he sympathizes with the Palestinian people,
but they have this term that you just define jihad. So what we got here, the facts you had does not
mean holy war. Yeah, you number two, you you mentioned the the Pope. This actually was coined during
the Christian crusades, people can go look this up, correct. Yeah. What was the Pope's name? What
was the poet's name? The second Urban the Second? Yes. And then Okay, so we got this out of the way
now if somebody had just like, you know, you you come to someone and you think that you think
Hanukkah is Christmas? And then someone said, no, they celebrate this holiday? It's Christmas? No,
		
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			it's not Christmas. It's totally something different. Right. So you so now you've defined the
clearly clearly clearly what it is. The term is translated, what is it linguistically transmit, to
struggle and strive. Jihad linguist has three main meanings, linguistic meaning, which is to do an
extra effort, any extra effort is you had, and that is also a spiritual meaning, which is to strive
against oneself against your ego against your so he mentioned he met, he met him. He mentioned that
part. Yeah, so go ahead. Yeah, he mentioned that one. Yeah. So there's also a spiritual meaning. And
there is something called
		
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			the biggest jihad which is to say a word of truth in the presence of a tyrant. The Prophet Muhammad
peace be upon him said, the biggest form of jihad is a word of truth in the presence of a tyrant.
What do tyrants do tyrants kill? Prophet Muhammad is encouraging people to stand against tyrants and
say the truth, even if this can lead to their own demise, because we all are gonna die one day. But
if people are silent when they see corruption, this will lead to more corruption. So a community or
a society of silent people is a community or a society of devils, then we have to speak. And there's
the last time a type of jihad is combative, jihad, and there is a code for combative for combat,
		
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			it's called the code of combat.
		
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			Gotcha. Okay, so then, so this this whole idea that it seemed like what he was saying, He's
misinformed there is that like, Muslims have this jihad, this one spiritual part, fighting off, you
know, the devil and fighting off the neffs, you know, the inner self, the ego and all that stuff.
It's good. But then they got this thing there. It's, you know, it's this holy war. And that's what
you got to kind of like, these people with this premise. Like, I think it's simple. He just said
that holy war, which is to go and kill people everywhere. No, I'm sorry. How can you be a good
person and you struggle against your neffs against your ego against your evil inclinations, and you
		
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			go go kill people everywhere. It's exactly what Robert Spencer said, You have killed them, wherever
you find them, wherever you find them were in supermarkets. If he just continues to say the whole
sign. The whole sign says that until the war is over, so this isn't war, and whatever you find them
it's about
		
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			People want their country was occupied. God is telling people and is encouraging Muslims not to
accept occupation. This is the problem of Muslims. What people don't understand that our problem is
that we do not believe that God promised anybody, the Holy Land, our land. So are we supposed to
just accept when we find people coming from Europe 7080 years ago, fleeing the persecution, and we
welcome them, actually, the Jews were welcomed by the Palestinians. Were giving them shelter, we're
giving them places to live. And they had no problems until they found that, oh, there's an agenda.
Here. Here's started the problem. Are we supposed to accept what other Scriptures say? No, I'm
		
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			sorry, I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that. Don't tell me that God promised you 3000
years ago that my land will be ordered. And then you kick me out in the sea. This is complete. This
is insane.
		
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			One more thing before we get into the alphabet movement, and your experience is now working together
actually going to Christian conferences. And yeah, you know, giving giving your feedback, your
advice and listening how we can work together. I want you to get your comments on this. This is from
actually a good friend of mine, Dr. Seville, because this is the current situation that's going on
and people think there's some something that Muslims inherently they hate Jews or whatnot. I want to
get your reaction to this. We don't hate Jews, actually, when the Prophet Muhammad went to Medina,
he uplifted Jews and women. How did he do that? Let me quote you, Paul, a Jewish scholar by the name
		
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			of Dr. David Borenstein, he wrote, Islam saved the jury, Miss Islam save the Jewish people. So the
number one reason that he gave is that the Jewish people they were at the brink of extinction.
Around the birth of Muhammad, peace be upon the Persians, Egyptians, the Romans and others. They
were all praying the Jewish people, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, he gave the Jewish groups in
Medina autonomy. The second reason that he gave is the Spanish Inquisition. So when the Jewish
people when they kick when they were kicked out, they went to the Muslim land, the Ottoman Empire,
and yes, Palestine. So again, Muslims and Islam, they give them the freedom and the protection in
		
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			the land to the Jewish people. It's a forgotten history. By the way. You don't hear much about this
in the schools nowadays. Do you and universities What are your comments on that? Is is this
something that just made up by Muslims? No, no, no, no, this is history. This is history. Well,
youth have always found a safe haven with Muslims in the Muslim world. By the way, the closest to to
the Muslims in Aqeedah, in Belize, are the Jews actually not the Christians? The Christian theology
is completely different from us. But their Jewish theology is very close to us when it comes to the
hate and stuff like that a lot. But so we didn't have a problem, even what we eat, you know, I eat
		
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			freely when I eat in a Jewish restaurant. I don't care. I don't even ask if it's halal or not. I
don't care if it's if it's kosher, then that's fine. So we don't have a big problem with each other.
We have a problem with occupiers. We have a problem with with oppressors whether the oppressors are
Muslims or Jews or Christians. So is the difference here the when you differentiate Jewish because
there's a lot of I've interviewed a lot of Jews, Miko. Pillet is one of them. I always mentioned his
name, because I consider him a friend. He's Israeli Jew.
		
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			The Israeli media is playing this shameful role of collaborating with occupation, the government,
the army, the secret services don't want you to tell. And the consumers, the readers, and the
viewers don't want to hear and don't want to know. And then someone will ask what happened here? How
come the society is living in this denial? I try to whistling the darkness. I don't see it as any
influence on the country, you see that? Everything goes to the opposite direction. So what's the
point? I remember I asked my father the same question one day, he said, Well, I don't want them to
be able to say that they didn't know how they cannot say they didn't know famous rabbi who lived in
		
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			Jerusalem. He was one of the anti Zionist rabbis, like Rabbi Weiss that you interviewed. And he was
interviewed by a student of his and the students said to him, if
		
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			if you were in charge, today will be the first thing that you would do.
		
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			And this rabbi said, the first thing I would do is I would ask the Palestinians to come back.
		
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			And the student says, Why, what are you talking about? They're terrorists, they want to kill us. And
the rabbi, his name is Rabbi Omraam Rabbi Imran Blau. And the rabbi said, Who told you that? Who
told you that the Arabs were going to kill us? We had great relations with the Muslims in the Arabs
back in the day. You know, his family that that Hebron and
		
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			This half family lived in Jerusalem that always had, you know, Jewish minorities. He said we had
great relations, we shared the same values, we shared a similar culture. You know, we all treat each
other with respect there was only only when the Zionists came
		
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			the beginning of the 20th century, that the terrorism began, that the violence began it was
initiated not by the Palestinians, not by the Arabs and the Muslims. But by the Zionists. He wrote
the general sod, you have Rabbi Weiss, for by Shapiro and others who have come out and they're
against the Zionist movement, this movement now that this is what everything's revolving around.
Here's many Jews believed wrongly that Zionism is either part of Judaism or is compatible with
Judaism, or is even the main part of Judaism. All of those are actually false. Zionism was created
to negate Judaism. Zionism was created to replace Judaism. The differences between Zionism and
		
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			Judaism are vast, they are vast and profound. The propaganda that designers have turned out for the
past 100 years, have confused and conflated Zionism and Judaism such that when the average person
walks down the street, he thinks that the State of Israel is the Jewish state, he thinks that
Zionism is Judaism. And he doesn't know the difference. This group of Jews here are students of the
students of the late sokola, Rabbi, Rabbi Boyle, Teitelbaum, who was the greatest disseminator of
the clarity regarding the difference between Judaism and Zionism. So, yeah.
		
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			I actually interviewed,
		
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			I met the Rabbi, we met, we go to Muslim countries now, because it's a requirement as the chief
rabbi of Palestine or the title bound said, we are required to let the world know that these
Zionists and their state does not speak for the Jewish people. And they are not in any way, I have
the right to use Judaism, to oppress to steal the land from the Palestinian people, the people who
are good to us and we babysat each other's children we live together, they have no right to steal
from the Torah doesn't permit you to steal designers wants to confuse to make it as as a religious
conflict, nothing to do with religion, that on the contrary, the Muslims in the Arab people work for
		
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			us, our friends, and our patrons, the ones who protect us and provide a safe haven. And they should
not be full, full, full victim of this evil movement of Zionism, with God's help, if you will remove
this impediment to peace. Zionism, a new a relatively new ideology. So 100 more years than the Jews
and Muslims and Christians were living for hundreds and hundreds of years. And it was never a
problem. I interviewed him I had a show called The Islamic show on channel 30, in the Washington DC
area 25 years ago, when I was the Muslim chaplain of the American university there. So I interviewed
him, he's a friend. And those people aren't fair.
		
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			What advice would you would you give just for the average person, I've also had
		
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			a Christian lady on as she represents the organization called if Americans knew, you know, not to
mention to the $3 billion a year a billion just spent, you know,
		
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			to, to, to send when you have people here on the streets, you have people here, you know, overrun
with poverty, some places look like they've been taken back to the, you know, to stone, I mean,
they've been really infected by wars, some places here in the US and people here need that money.
And she makes this point also other things, you know, she was somebody who was also an an ardent
supporter on one end, and then she really, you know, opened their eyes and she got past the
programming that was happening. So what do you say to people, you know, if they want it because
they, they're just being programmed, usually what they see on TV, the media and whatnot, and they
		
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			have an agenda. So what would you tell for people to get a better understanding of what's going on?
Because I think anybody who looks into and sees you know, open air prism, deprive the basic human
necessities bait, you know, people who are living conditions worse than animals, you know, people
		
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			with any kind of God consciousness, awakening a heart, you know, they would stand up, you know,
modern day apartheid, what would you say? How would they get? What's the best way to get informed
what the best way to get informed is? Listen, when you want to know how a certain dish tastes, you
have to ask someone who tasted that dish. You can go and ask people who never
		
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			saw that dish or tasted that dish. You have to go to Muslims, go to any mosque near you and enter
the mosque and ask Muslims and you will see how they welcome you how they tell you the truth. I
don't shy from telling people that yes, there is combating jihad. I didn't say that jihad is only
Jihad enough's against one's ego No, no. Why i By the way, Islam is beautiful already.
		
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			He doesn't need any plastic surgeries or makeup. I'm not going to beautify Islam. It is beautiful
already. And one of the most beautiful things about Islam is that it is based on evidence, Islam and
I know that well, Islam is a religion of justice. And justice should be established through peaceful
means. But if Muslims fail to establish justice through peaceful means, unfortunately, they have to
resort to war. Guys, this is common sense. I'm not saying something strange here.
		
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			So I wish that every American, go to the nearest mosque and ask people about Islam. Ask us about
Islam. Don't ask people about us.
		
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			Yeah,
		
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			there's one verse I always think about chapter 60, verse eight, so beautiful, just trumps all of
this with a lot of Islamophobia. Our God Almighty Allah is saying in the Quran, that God does not
forbid you from dealing kindly and justly with those who have not fought you because your religion
or driven you out of your homes is such a powerful, beautiful, yes.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Tell me now. So you got to see this PD PBD podcast with Patrick and David, and you wanted to give
some insights, personal insights, that you because you've been dealing with this a lot. Now, can you
share some of your experiences? Yeah, yeah. What actually well,
		
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			which would you mean, the one that had a debate?
		
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			Yes, the one that had the debate, his bigger vision of Muslims and Christians and others working
together because you have the sexualization of the children. And you've had many cases now that this
is being pushed, pushed down the throats of
		
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			Muslims, and it's a deliberate attack, and you've actually gone gone even deeper, and you've gotten
to some of these conventions, and you've actually had some success also, in this area, helping
people who yet just go ahead and share it's coming from you. Okay. Okay. Let me tell you what, I've
been involved in this issue of the alphabet movement and seeing what they are doing and how they
infiltrated some of our
		
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			children, actually, by making them sympathize with them by throwing on them false information and
misconceptions that we can actually mention now. But the issue is, the only two factions that are
standing strongly against this
		
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			destructive ideology, are the Christian right wing, and the Muslims. Christians, right wing have a
big problem with Muslims. I went several times to their conferences, I spoke to them, and I told
them Listen, guys, I'm not telling you that we love you. I'm not asking you to love us, but for the
sake of our children, you need us and we need you. So we need to make a bridge. Let's make peace
now. Truce now. And let's forget about that, you know, I, you know, in one of these conferences, I'm
there and someone one of the, the head of a big organization, she's texting me that Jesus is the Son
of God. And you have to accept that before we work. What's that? You understand me? I'm not gonna
		
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			accept that. And I can debate with her on that. I started Christianity like I studied Islam also.
But I'm not there for that. Guys. Let's put these things aside now. And see how can we do things
together? You see when Muslims mobilized?
		
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			In Canada, protests in Canada, about a million people went out in many cities, it was it was a
success. So how can What if we join hands together and do something together? Because we are now on
the defensive? When someone is on the defensive, he's never going to win a war. You have to also
start
		
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			things like for example, go and making surveys about the countries that banned the therapy of same
* attraction.
		
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			We have to see what happened since they banned it. How many people became suicidal because of the
ban of same * attack? Because they told us that they banned it, they banned it because it's a
failure. And it makes people suicidal. Actually, I have a case of a boy who is becoming suicidal
because he cannot find a therapist. So that's the problem. We there is a lot of things that we can
do together.
		
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			That has triggered this is important this is this is a great story. Can you share that this so you
had this this person who came to you and he wants to start a family? He want he has these urges, he
has these desires? Yeah. And then what happened? He wants to suppress these desires because God
Almighty has
		
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			Given a certain avenue of how you can express these desires, and that's through marriage, there's
two men and women coming together. But he was going in the opposite direction. So now he wanted, if
I'm correct, he wanted his mother to help him to go and get him this kind of therapy. Yeah,
therapist. Yeah. But then what happened from there? Well, actually, this boy reached puberty last
year. And he told his mom, I have good news and bad news. The good news is, I had a dream. The bad
news is I have a crush on my male friends. But don't worry, Mom, I went to the internet. She was
always raised by her single mom. And I went to the internet, and I found that there is a therapy and
		
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			the therapy is about 50% success rate and it is going to be okay said No, listen, they are about to
ban the therapy. So I don't have a problem that you go and live the gay life. He told her no, don't
say that. It's my dream to marry a woman like you, and have a child and a girl and named her after
you, mom. She said, Listen, I don't need any hassle. I don't need problems. They are criminalizing
the therapy. Please, I don't care. Go live the gay life. He said, Listen, if you don't find me, a
therapist, I will take my life.
		
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			So it looks like banning the therapy is also making people suicidal. And because I told us, it's
it's their therapy fails, actually therapy doesn't fail in every case. Now they bring you cases
where with whom the therapy has failed? Well, which therapy works 100%? The question is, does it
work? With some people? No, it doesn't work with some people, everything? Well, cancer therapy works
with 20% Who dares to, to ban cancer therapy. So actually, I want to tell you this, because you know
what, I'm going to tell you even a more interesting story that happened to one of my friends, one of
my friends who raised his children in an Islamic school. And when they went to universities, he felt
		
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			that they're changing. They're, they're becoming more westernized speaking things, like sympathizing
with the alphabet movement and stuff like that. So he was really worried. And his wife told him
listen, they don't necessarily mean what they say sometimes children just test our limits. So he
wanted to see if they really mean it or not. So he called his children. His daughter was actually
married. You told her I want you to come on Tuesday at six, leave your husband at home, don't bring
him with you. Okay, he called the other two kids. They were both in university. He told them Come on
Tuesday at six, the three of you, I want you there's an important information to tell you he is
		
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			separated from their, from their mother action. So they expected that he is going to tell them that
he's going to get married or something like that. They expected that. So they went his daughter is
making tea, that what did you want to say? Because I want to go home? He said no, come here and sit.
They said, he said, Listen, I want to tell you this. I've been having same * attraction since a
long time. And I haven't came out until today. Now I am coming out to you. Your father is gay. And
he is going to get married.
		
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			And the children fell, one of them fell, and the other one started to cry. And his daughter told
them this is not a joke. He said, Why are you reacting like that? I never expected this homophobic
reaction from you. You always sounded open minded. And they broke up and they told him no it so he
told them listen, I was it's not true. I was just testing to see if you really changed your
principles and your values or not.
		
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			But that was mind blowing what he did when he told me this. I found it mind blowing actually.
Anyway, the issue here is I studied the issue. And I found that there are six main misconceptions
that they use to infiltrate our youth, our children, mainly, number one, that Muslims miss
understood the story of our salute, and that homosexuality is not haram. The problem of Talmud is
that they were bandits cutting off roads, attacking travelers or traveling in caravans and *
them. The second problem is our the second misconception is that the Quran has a mistake.
Archaeologists proved that there was homosexuality among the pharaohs. And Prophet Lutz said in sort
		
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			of Aarav I think we're logged on is currently allow me to not
		
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			be I mean, I had him in an island in a lot when he said to his people, do you commit such obscenity
with
		
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			which no one in all communities has preceded you? How come he says so when the pharaohs had it?
		
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			The third misconception, they say, it's not about *, it's about love. What if I wake up one day
falling in love with one of my male colleagues. And this is, in my opinion, the most dangerous one,
because it depends on emotional influence. who can control his heart though, the fourth
misconception is that it is not against fitrah. It's not against against innate nature, because it
exists among animals. And so this means that it's natural. Five, therapy of same * attraction is a
failure, and it doesn't work and it makes people suicidal. And it is immoral, because torture is
involved in it. That's what they say, which is completely false. And I can prove it, six. And the
		
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			last misconception is,
		
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			this community deserves a special treatment, because they are oppressed and persecuted in many
countries. And this is also a false statement. So this number one, we need to answer all these six
misconceptions for our children, so that they don't be don't get fooled by anyone else.
		
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			And also, we need to understand what can we tell our children in order to protect them from these
ideologies. And there is a discourse or rhetoric for children under 11 years, and for children over
11 years that can increase their level of critical thinking. And also, what can a parent do if his
child came back and told him that he is transgender? Or she is transgender? What can you do?
		
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			And, or maybe identifies himself as a dog or a cat. So we need to know that also, our children are
asked by Islamophobes do Muslims hate LGBT? How can you answer this a proper answer? So this is very
how to answer Muslims themselves, who asked Are we at the end of time because of the spread of these
ideologies, because many Muslims today are very desperate, and they say we must be at the end of
time, while people said so at the time of the Crusades.
		
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			When they established for 90 years, a kingdom called the Kingdom of Jerusalem crusades in in the
middle of the Muslim world, people said, This must be the end of time and it wasn't the end of time.
Just a good respectable generation appeared and push them out. And also after 150 years from that
day,
		
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			the Mongols invaded the Muslim world, and they slayed over 1 million Muslims in Iraq, they killed
and they slaughtered the Khalifa and the remote meaning that they are basically leave Calif. And
Muslims at that said at that time, many of them said, This must be the end of time, your claim must
be tomorrow. And it wasn't the end of time, just a good reprieve and respectable generation appealed
and pushed it out. The issue is today, we are being infiltrated by such ideologies, the spread of
atheism, the spread of these sexual
		
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			misconduct and stuff. The issue is, we may we may be at the end of time, and maybe not. At every
era, there is such things that happen fitna that happens, we can be the chosen ones that Allah chose
to face such ideologies. And Muslims have to understand that Islam cannot just protect itself
against these ideologies. No, Islam can defeat them.
		
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			Islam is strong enough to defeat them. We just need to do one thing. Stop whining and start working.
Because we all the time whining
		
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			and complaining, and no one is doing and now we need to start working, planning and working. That's
what I believe.
		
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			Last thing before we conclude, so now what I'm getting here is that these these, this experience now
with the Christians, was it at the end of the day.
		
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			Do you think this this is something that together is going to have a much stronger impact? And when
they see that, you know, we're not the enemy. I mean, you know, you have others who are others that
they sit and they they defend and whatnot and the some of the others we don't mention their names,
they can look into it, who actually cursed Jesus who actually cursed his mother and whatnot. I mean,
I just can't wrap my mind around this. I mean, were people who, at the end of the day we call upon
Jesus what he
		
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			called himself a messenger of God and the Bible is called he was a servant, a messenger of God. And
we confirm that you know, we Muslim can end up in the Hellfire saying one disrespectful thing about
Jesus peace be upon him. Many Christians have woken up to this fact they don't think they really
know this. I think it's so important that they know that how can you be the enemy? When you love and
revere Jesus? How you don't you don't say any disrespectful thing about it. We need someone to build
the bridge between us and them. Believe me, I always had
		
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			hopes in Jordan Peterson but
		
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			that he failed and Palestine is free, people like him are going to be ashamed that they did this.
Now I really have hopes in Patrick Patrick. But yes, I think he can build the bridges between us.
Let's not say that we need to love each other now, because looks like the gap is very big. At least
Let's cooperate in what is common. We have common values, family values, Let's cooperate together to
save our children. And postpone for now the childish things, these these differences will never end,
there will always be people who believe in Jesus as Lord. And there will always be people who don't
believe in Jesus except as a messenger, and a prophet and love him as well. So let's leave these
		
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			things aside now. And we really have to work quickly, I want to tell you something, we have a big
problem that is gonna
		
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			explode in our faces very soon, which is the rainbow
		
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			people, religious people from the Christian side, and from the Muslim side, tell their five, six
year old kids that no, they cannot buy them a bag with a rainbow on it or wear a t shirt with a
rainbow on it. Because it's haram. It God hates this. But this means that you are creating a complex
in the child by telling him that God hates beauty because it's the most beautiful combination of
colors. So we need to work together to redeem the rainbow. The rainbow has to be diluted. It should
not mean anything. Not the there movement nor anything but how to do so we need to cooperate. And we
cannot do that. That as long as they are distancing themselves from us like that. Let's see if
		
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			Patrick today, Patrick. I wish he can do Patrick green David how he's replaced. You think the Jordan
Peterson Yeah, it seems like many see that he pretty much he sold himself because he had one way of
thinking. And then he jumped over to this certain I think it was daily wire. You got a big paycheck.
And now his whole his whole direction change.
		
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			Unfortunately, yeah. All right. Thank you very much. May God Almighty the Creator Allah bless you.
And if people want to see some of your documentaries, there many non Muslims out there watching and
they want to learn more about Islam. Where can they see these documentaries? Oh, no one have a
channel actually, this is not a gas station that I worked for. This is my organization bridges
foundation. So if you go to YouTube, five bridges foundation channel, it will appeal to you. An ugly
person will appeal to you is myself and subscribe. And there's a lot of playlists. One of them is
called the fog is lifting playlist, it has the three documentaries we need. Part one is called Islam
		
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			in brief, and part two is called jihad on terrorism. 10 people appeared speaking on this in this
huge documentary five of them are non Muslims, two of them are Jews, and all of them are defending
combative, Jihad scholarly. And that is Islam in women, which is you gotta you got you got you got
Jews in there also on this documentary who are defending jihad? Yeah, of course, of course. I have a
lot of Jewish friends, by the way.
		
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			So this dispels much of those myths already. We've, I don't think someone can watch this and still
have hopefully that, by the way. One of them is a very interesting person called Dr. Philippe sands.
He is the international law professor and UCL in London. And he you know what? He volunteered to
defend 10 Guantanamo
		
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			prisoners.
		
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			Wow, Jewish attorney Jew. I tell you more than that, well, in his house, we're filming with him. And
he said, if people are saying that, this is terrorism, they have to go and see the Jewish
organizations who are blowing buses and hotels in philosophy in which is now called Israel. So I
said Cut, cut. Listen, beautiful, but can you please repeat that but instead of saying Jewish
organization says Zionist organizations, he said get out all of you. You cowards. They are attacking
Islam. I didn't say anything.
		
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			Imran by the way go tell them that I'm as you as what? What's his name? What's his what's his name?
Philippe sands?
		
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			He's amazing. Yes, yeah. Is he? Is he is he a self hating you? Definitely you know what they called
self hating Jews. I'm sorry for the word but it's called that shit list s h it self hating and
Israel threatening.
		
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			And I think when the same self hating and Islam threatening and we should have our list of people
because you know what these days a lot of those appear and they surfaced on Twitter attacking the
oppressed and saying we stand with Israel and they're supposed to be Muslim. We need this Shi T list
		
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			the good people come together who are really striving towards justice and peace and hopefully people
can benefit from this program we just did we'll see you in the future inshallah God willing Thank
you very much drama Charla Thank you very much. Thank you. So I'm pleased to be with you. I'm sure
all of you know, Eddie from the D show. And I'm sure that you've all heard about the Dean center.
Now you don't want to miss out on this opportunity. The brother has been around for a long time.
When I became Muslim. That was a show that I used to watch. It was one of the shows that I actually
was interviewed on. And since then I've kept in touch with Eddie and we've cooperated and
		
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			participate in many things together. hamdulillah by the blessing of Allah Now you guys have to do
your part. This is for the OMA, there are so many people in this world who need the message of
Islam. But the question is not what you're going to do. What are you going to do with your money
with what you have? What are you going to do to help the Ummah to help someone who's been around for
20 years doing Dawa, you've enjoyed the shows you've enjoyed the interviews you've enjoyed. Now it's
your turn support that the center
		
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