The Deen Show – Muslim Professor Thrown into a Dungeon in Jerusalem after being a Defender of Jewish rights
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The Dean Show discusses the culture and history of Jerusalem, including the use of black seed, the conflict between Muslims and Christian leaders, and the need for strong security. The speakers emphasize the importance of speaking out against transcriptionists and the use of global Islamophobia to spread the message that antis possession is wrong. The operation on the holaced holster holster culture is designed to prevent the collapse of the operation and ensure no one speaks out. The speakers also mention a civil rights Alliance for America and encourage people to speak out against the current president.
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So people can go research this, on their
own. Saladin Ayubik, the conqueror of Jerusalem,
also known as Saladin. So I I'm actually
a human rights professor who starts almost all
my human rights courses depicting
images and stories of the holocaust. Jews also
who are praising you for the work you're
doing,
speaking out against the, injustices.
And we speak about the injustice of the
holocaust and injustices such as antisemitism
as no different as injustices of Islamophobia encountered
here in America. For centuries under Islamic rule,
Jerusalem was a place of freedom,
a freedom of worship.
Going to,
Jerusalem,
and next thing you know, you guys are
in a dungeon somewhere.
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Before I get into the future,
current day, I'm gonna just remind you that
there was a point in time in history
where a Christian,
Jewish, Muslim,
under Muslim rule, you can go to Jerusalem
and not have to get worried about
taking a trip and then getting thrown into
a dungeon
and having your property
taken away unjustly.
Like what we are going to be talking
about
here, it is just incredible, it is mind
blowing, you have a professor of human rights
and his research assistant
there here on the Dean Show, to relay
them visiting this city
when ruled by Muslims.
You had justice established,
you had the three
religions living there in a relative peace. And
you didn't have things like this, what we
are going to be talking about, happening
with my next two guests here on The
Dean
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Bro, this is the Dean show.
Professor Hassan Khaled
is a research assistant.
How are you? Assalamu alaikum. My pleasure to
be here, dear brother. Thank you, for having,
the time coming on to share your story.
Now I opened it up talking about, is
this true? There was a time in history
when you can go to Jerusalem,
be it the Christian,
Jew, and you didn't have all this chaos
that's happening, all the oppression.
Is this confirmed history? Absolutely. For centuries, under
Islamic rule, Jerusalem was a place of freedom,
a freedom of worship,
Jews, Christians, Muslims living side by side.
And now, the experience is quite different.
Just going to the Al Aqsa Masjid
is a huge hardship,
truly a different world. Okay. So people can
go research this, on their own. Saladin Ayubibi,
the conqueror of Jerusalem, also known as Saladin.
He is best known for his role in
the 3rd crusade when he led the Muslim
forces to victory over the crusaders
and recaptured Jerusalem in 11/87.
And they also helped to preserve peace in
the Middle East for many years. That's not
gonna be, really what we're gonna be talking
about, but I opened that up because now
it's one thing us talking about people getting
detained, imprisoned, oppressed, and tortured,
but you guys are 2 living, live examples.
You got a Canadian citizen, American citizen
going to,
Jerusalem,
and next thing you know,
you guys are in a dungeon somewhere.
Absolutely. So, yeah, we were Can we can
we describe it as a dungeon? Absolutely. It
was that's an exact
description in one word of the experience that
we endured.
Mhmm. Absolutely. Okay. I mean, were you guys
doing something illegal? I mean, why are you
guys in the dungeon?
So we we we were conducting research on
the occupation. We were,
embedded with youth activists that we encountered at
Aqsa Masjid. I was there for the year,
my research assistant by my side.
And the thing that we did
that was,
of great concern to Israeli forces
was that we called out for the liberation
of Palestine.
We put it on video. We were organizing
youth to engage in peaceful protest to undo
the occupation. Violent. Absolutely. Pure. Peaceful.
Following the tradition of those who, spoke out
at Tahrir Square in 2011,
who came out en masse and spent days
protesting
the autocracy in Egypt. What was there? There
there was something similar. It was, at the
fence at the border. This was years
ago. And you had,
doctors, you had people in wheelchairs, you had,
I mean, just everyone coming out. What was
that called? It was called, there was another
name. It was a protest that happened by
the by the border, by the fence,
and then they were getting shot. Yes. Yeah.
In Gaza, they were being sniped and being
attacked, and, they were speaking out. This is
a peaceful peaceful protest. And many people were
killed.
Many of the officers at the border,
killed and and made. The name of it?
I don't I don't recall the the name
of the protest.
But yeah. And it was very, very well
covered in
in Gaza. Absolutely.
And many, many protests just like that protest
has, have been completely stifled
and squelched,
by authorities. One of the things they're extremely
worried about is their it's,
one of the more it's
one of the more fundamental priorities of security
forces
to make sure that Palestinians are not treated
with sympathy
in global media. What was was it your
first time there visiting?
It was my second time visiting. It was
brother Khaled's first time. It was my first
time visiting. So how was day to day
life? When you get there,
as soon as you get there, what's the
feeling on the ground experience that you had
just before you get thrown in a dungeon?
What was it like? Well, actually, it was,
to me, it was an incredible experience. There's
obviously the first
moments where you come in
and you're just,
you know, the the the star filled,
glory of Jerusalem, you know, it just is
such a comforting experience praying in Aqsa and
feeling that peaceful moment after praying turakas.
It is just
priceless.
And,
even though you begin afterwards
to start to see
the frightful torture of a people who are
just trying to live but their dreams are
being squashed
day after day. And so you see the
forces, the checkpoints,
the I mean, just trying to go to
Jerusalem, we were in a car with, one
of our friends
and they just stopped the car and they
didn't like
how we how we looked, I guess. They
just ripped me out from the back seat
and started beating me up.
And that's definitely not an experience I've had.
Hold on. Hold on. So,
repeat that. This is like some people didn't
get it. I mean, hold on. Why would
someone okay. You're driving, minding your own business.
Yes. You weren't breaking any laws, were you?
Absolutely not. Speeding? Even if you're speeding? No.
No. Actually we're in traffic. And so we're
just all in the yeah. Is this just
random?
Well,
I mean, it's presented as though it might
be random, but obviously it's not. There's constant
ethnic profiling
of, of Arabs and Palestinians.
And, you know, we're dressed in in in
ways that are easily identifiable as Muslims.
And so
this particular woman who is, you know It's
a woman. Yeah. She identified us, asked us,
questions,
and then she called
Israeli forces to come to the site. So
she didn't do it herself. Then the men
came, they spotted us and and,
they ripped me out of the back seat
where I was seated
and behind or between 2 cars in the
parking lot. Mhmm. They beat me, pushed me
down to the ground in a humiliating fashion
and,
completely searched the car inside out.
Afterwards, releasing us back into the car. Nothing.
No charges.
And we were back in the car within,
you know, some 20 minutes.
And and you and Imran were just waiting
as they were beating me
between the cars. Yeah. They also got me
out of car as well, and they'd bashed
me towards another car. And I raised my
hand like this, and I stayed until they
got done with doctor Hassan.
Mhmm. Was a little treat
Wow. By then. And these things happen a
great deal, like even in Al Aqsa,
We on one of those days like the
where,
there are occupiers who enter
the the enclave of the Masjid,
I was I was beaten as we were
protesting with other Palestinians within the Masjid because
constantly there are there are occupiers who enter
the Masjid sometimes on a daily basis and
huge numbers on religious Jewish religious policies. Happening.
What are you doing? What do you what
are you saying? What do you
what do you do? We we what we
do is we just congregate together as the
forces
escort these occupiers through the Al Aqsa Masjid
and we declare and praise Allah Subhanahu Wa
Ta'ala.
We we ask we also might shout leave,
This is not your land or this is
not your mosque. When they pull you out
of the car and now the
they're beating you. What are you saying? Like,
you have no idea why they're doing this.
What do you do? What are you saying?
What do you I I I It's going
through your head. I'm I'm praying to Allah
Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. I'm praying to God. And
I'm asking Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala for support.
I'm also questioning them. I'm telling them that
this is truly unjust.
What you're doing here is exactly
why this occupation is completely unjust and I
tried to engage in a conversation
with the police. They one they brought one
guy
who speaks Arabic
and he said
like, shut up.
They just couldn't tolerate hearing me repeatedly point
out what are we doing. This is completely
unjust.
And so all we have You're pretty much
yelling in injustice.
Exactly. Exactly.
And and you could see that it's aggravating.
The human being
for some reason, our conscience
still is gnawing at us that even the
biggest oppressors
can't withstand
hearing from someone who clearly is being oppressed
the word that they are the oppressor.
Yeah.
So this this was also an extraordinary finding
for us in our research that
that speaking out
doesn't just help
other people to
to to sort of garner sympathy
for those who are oppressed. It's also for
the oppressor to know that we see them
as a source of our oppression and that
they're occupiers. They don't perceive themselves as occupiers.
They could perceive themselves as on the side
of justice that they are victims
who then destroy the lives of Palestinians including
ourselves for doing no nothing.
Just being in our car and being singled
out because of how we look or the
way in
which we pray and worship. Mhmm. Now the
mayor how would you answer this? Have you,
with your students, your professor,
university?
You probably have some Jewish students.
Some people now,
they fall for the programming saying that, okay.
And how do you address this?
That okay,
you guys wanna eliminate Jews. You hate Jews.
You're antisemitic,
etcetera etcetera. I mean, what do you say
to that? So I I'm actually a human
rights professor who starts almost all my human
rights courses depicting images and stories of the
Holocaust.
Human rights history can be recounted as beginning
with the holocaust in which millions of people
were killed for no reason but for their
religious belief.
And that human rights stands for the principle
that the sovereignty of a nation
should never extend to killing people for no
reason as, what took place in the Holocaust.
And it's because of my Jewish mentors when
I grew up who motivated me to go
into human rights.
They are the same people
who cheer me
when I speak out against the occupation.
I teach global Islamophobia
and in that course we have, Jewish Americans
and we speak about the injustice of the
holocaust and injustices such as antisemitism
as no different as injustices of Islamophobia encountered
here in America as well as in Palestine.
And I bring to our class really fascinating
global Islam phobia, a holocaust survivor. She just
recently passed away. Her name was Dora, 96
years of age. She passed away. She would
come.
She has repeatedly been part of the instruction
of the course
and even though she was experiencing many disabilities,
she came to our,
to our course,
basically a semester before she passed away
despite all the hardship to speak out. And
these are people who are supportive of us
and who come to press conferences speaking out
against genocide.
And so we believe that the work we're
doing
is also spreading the message that antisemitism
is wrong. But then if antisemitism is wrong,
it's no different than the mass Islamophobia that
we see in this land of occupation.
Why should should a people
like the Palestinians
have their land revoked from them and have
not the possibility of their dreams
constantly being taken away and ripped away from
their lives because they're subject to arrest and
attack and being singled out at checkpoints.
That isn't the life that people, including Jewish
Americans, have fought for in the civil rights
movement and in fighting against the Holocaust.
This is an important point. So you had
Jewish mentors
who helped motivate you to get into human
rights
and who are now praising you for speaking
out. There are Jews also
who are praising you for the work you're
doing, speaking out against the, injustices,
what's happening
on the ground in Jerusalem and Palestine? Absolutely.
My doctoral supervisor when I did my PhD,
Jewish American,
and, I have mentors at at the university
where I taught Jewish Americans
and as I grew up I was taught
by creative
educators
with a Jewish background who are constantly being
supportive as you mentioned
speaking out against this occupation.
In fact, my doctoral
supervisor
has suggested that the very existence of the
state and how it's organized is completely unjust.
So she's she's this is before
She's Jewish also. She's Jewish.
And this was before the attacks in Gaza
against Palestinians
And so
people who look at human rights and the
history of human rights, it's undeniable
when you look at events on the ground.
Yeah. You have all the, human rights organizations
also. It's across the board, isn't it? Absolutely.
Calling this a, apartheid state,
illegal occupation?
Absolutely. And and people who have been conducting
scholarship like Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky who
are very familiar about the laws and, what
has been happening on the ground for decades.
There's no question in their mind that the
reason why these attacks continue
is because
of a media charade
that this is just a democratic state, innocent,
victimless.
It is doing no wrong. In fact, it's
committing some of the most heinous human rights
violations on the planet and one of the
last nations
to persist in its colonialism. Mhmm. As most
of the countries of the world have
effectively enabled
their their colonized nations to declare independence.
Yeah. How about Palestine?
Before we get, more into the dungeon descriptions
of the dungeon and what happened in the
dungeon
with both of you, just tell me, this
is very interesting. Most people don't know this
because, they've uncovered that many of these politicians
over there,
they're not even Semitic.
You're actually Semitic. You guys are both Semitic.
I mean, Palestinians are Semitic. Absolutely. So they're
being anti Semitic coming from Europe. They have
last names, Golsky, Josky,
Polish names. They're European, actually. Absolutely. Absolutely. They're
hide is this true? They're hiding under this
Semitic now label, but they're not even Semitic.
The majority who are coming and stealing the
land. They're European. Yeah. Many and many of
them have come from your perspective.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Yes. And and
that's absolutely true. Many people have come and
they migrated to Palestine.
Open arms,
Palestinians welcome them and Welcome. Welcome. Absolutely welcome
them because they were fleeing persecution.
Jewish Jews have been
pursued and attacked throughout Europe for centuries. And
so they found refuge in Palestine
only for
Palestinians to be met by betrayal.
And so that that is truly disturbing. And
the the real the real point is cannot
folks who already live there have a home?
A home that they can feel secure that
forces are not just showing up one day
in front of them taking their 13 year
old child
and to no end not knowing what is
happening to them. They're being tortured, They're being
attacked.
Many, many, many worries and uncertainties just living
in Palestine. Alright. So tell us now what
happens. Okay. So Canadian citizen, American citizen, you
go down there, human, dungeon Absolutely. In a
prison. How and what
happened then?
Yeah. So I I was heading towards,
the Al Aqsa measure, the primary site of
my research on December 1st
and,
there was a call by Israeli forces,
the
the government of Israel to capture
my research assistant and myself.
As I was walking and heading towards Al
Aqsa Meshed, one of the officers because every
gate of Al Aqsa has Israeli forces. 1
of the officers
at one of the gates,
immediately spotted me coming down, walked,
rushed towards me,
and was scrolling through his phone. I I
could see my picture
and then began
a chapter unimaginable
of research,
and ethnography
from *.
Effectively,
I was handcuffed
on my hands and on my feet. The,
the cuff sort of coiling into my skin,
my nerves burning. I was stripped
naked,
paraded through the old city,
thrown into a van,
blindfolded
when I arrived in process. They stripped you
down in public?
Yeah. Well, in front in front of the
officers. Yeah. They took me to a location
that
all various officers were, and all of them
were looking at me.
They've asked me to strip completely.
And,
and then
they walked me.
They paraded me through the old city, threw
me into a van,
as they were putting pressure on the handcuffs,
sort of applying
a lot of pain,
on my nerves
and then
took me to the infamous Mescobeya prison, which
is a prison where many Palestinians have been
taken, where they have different levels
of
interrogation.
They took me to the highest
level of security
in the basement of Al Mascobayyah
and their
windowless
solitary confinement
in a whole,
imprisoned, you know, 2 huge metallic doors
to keep me in,
we began
our journey.
I was alone in the beginning. We sometimes
overlapped.
And for 12 days, we engaged in a
hunger strike. And brother Khaled could also talk
about being sent
to Askalan
in order for them to learn more about
why we were in Palestine and who were
we?
So, yeah, they, sent me to a fake
prison, like a theater,
where everyone is
acting as if he is a Palestinian.
And,
you know, you feel like you are in,
like, at home
within your family members. Everyone is acting nice.
Everyone is,
is acting like he loves you and he
likes you and
brings food to you and brings a lot
of things to you. And, like, I felt
very
like,
I had like intimate relationships,
with all of them.
And they were trying to trick me
to say about,
doctor Hassan.
So at one point he said,
sheikh Khalid. They will call me a sheikh
Khalid in the in the prison just, you
know, to give me like even an extra
step to feel more comfortable, like, they are
giving me here.
So, sheikh Khalid, can you give us, kind
of a lecture about
what are the ideas,
doctor Hassan for liberating Palestine.
We want to learn more and really really
love the ideas and
said, yes. Why why not? So and I
they used to also to push me to
lead the prayer.
And,
sometimes they used to bring bring me food
to the place where I I was, like,
in. It was like
it's it was a traumatizing experience actually. Like,
I was
so naive. Like How did you find out
this was fake? This is When I went
after, like, 3, 4 days
of,
faking everything around me, they took me back
to the Muscovy prison in Jerusalem. That was
in Askaland. Askaland is near Gaza.
He took me back and and he told
me explicitly you were in a intelligence,
like you are in a fake prison and
the They told you. Yeah. They told me
that that the person who was talking to
me
is intelligence officer.
So basically I was talking to intelligence
officer.
And,
oh, I I I really I can't tell
you how traumatizing the experience was.
Mhmm. I can't really emphasize.
So what happens
day to day when you guys are there?
How you end up doing a hunger strike?
Are you beaten? Are you you're already talking
about, you know, the the pain is starting
to begin. Did it intensify?
What what was the day to day Yeah.
The day the day to day was a
constant interrogation, sleep deprivation, being handcuffed to a
chair,
in a vulnerable position with threats like up
to 7 people coming, you know, at one
time questioning you,
shouting attacks,
threatening that I'm gonna stay and live, you
know, in prison for the rest of my
life, that they have that capacity,
that the,
our our governments
didn't care about us. They don't they know
that we're here and they they just, have
no interest in learning more about us.
A lot
of in your window that they might,
engage in even further
attacks.
The
what we understand is a lot of the
youth that we were working with were also
imprisoned like they would point out, you know,
through the wall.
This, you know, brother Imran is here. Sheikh
Sami is here. And we learned that a
lot of the youth were beaten,
and so they they're willing to do that.
They also put us in
in in brown clothing,
which is meant to be emblematic
of of being in prison, which was kind
of peculiar. They stripped our clothing and and
put on this brown clothing
that implies that you are actually a resistance
fighter.
And so they had they had designated color,
you know, for clothing.
Orange was if you were there because you
violated the law.
Brown was if you were a resistance fighter
against the occupation. And so we're dressed in
this brown clothing being sent and they played
pretend justice with us. That we've been taken
to
a a judge.
At first
it was like high security,
sort of handcuffed on my feet, sent in
a single van
waiting,
put, you know, my face against the wall
until I could speak to the judge for
a few seconds
and then scurried back to prison. And then
later,
we were all sent to the van with
other prisoners and I would start delivering speeches
to the judge telling him, how could you
how could this persist?
That this being in this very court is
a violation
of human rights and that many Jewish Americans,
that I knew, and I would say that
because I was raised on the holocaust,
I pointed out,
would find this deplorable,
and and people in the court would just
stare
to the point where for some odd reason
at the very end, even though it wasn't
necessary,
the judge brought me after the decision was
made for my deportation
and I was told by
that we were now gonna head back, which
by the way was itself a whole story
of how the process of us heading back.
But we we I was, the judge made
a point of bringing me before
and saying,
okay. Now I have authorized
your deportation.
It seemed that he his conscience
was somehow impacted
by the speeches.
And he wanted me to say
that
what happened was was just.
One of the things by the way that
I feel a lot of folks don't realize
is that
you know many people ask you know doctor
Hassan how could you
speak out?
It's kind of stupid Like you called for
liberation
and then the question that we ask today
is
and the real question is how can you
not?
If no one speaks
then no one will know
and even Jews living
in Palestine
they themselves don't know the extent of the
suffering and the torture.
And so we have great opportunities to speak
out. Our tradition
starts off with stories of only basically the
message is to speak.
And and so
from the words of that we know being
dragged through the streets of the scorching heat
of Mecca.
That we heard
and all the people in Mecca heard the
words, right, of Bilal
The
All that the prophet
and the Sahaba, the companions, may Allah be
pleased with them, did was to speak a
word of truth.
And that's why we were there, to speak
the truth
with no regard to consequence.
Because if someone,
a Muslim,
sees these acts and doesn't speak out,
then who will?
And despite all
of the worries and fears that the youth
counselled us about, and despite all that people
say that how ridiculous it is for people
to call for the liberation openly,
here we are
in front of you, dear brother,
speaking the truth because Allah sent us back.
And this is one of the extraordinary things
that while we were going
through the prison system,
we met, one of the people who we
knew well in Al Aqsa,
brother Faraz.
He
he asked me a question.
He said, what would you do if you
go back to America?
And I said we would speak out.
Who asked you there? Oh, one of the
youth that we work with that was also
being imprisoned with us.
And he we met him while you're being
processed to be to appear before the court.
The mock trial. You're yeah. You're these mock
trials,
we would be caged
with other Palestinians.
And he looked at me and said, what
would you do
in Arabic if you
went back to America? And I said, we
would speak out. And one of the most
extraordinary
things appeared
in his response.
He had this huge smile.
In the midst of his torture,
what grave and pleasure was the fact that
I would be here with you right now
on the Dean show
speaking out
and telling the world
our experience
and the injustices that they suffer
because they believe
very few know
about the fact that people are shouting now
in the occupation that is underground,
in the jails that proliferate Palestine.
Tell me this. So
you finally you you had
you mentioned that
the people who are even there,
who are, like, 20 minutes away from all
of this oppression,
are you saying that most of them, they
don't know
really to the what extent
their neighbors are being oppressed? Absolutely. Yeah? Absolutely.
And that was one of I've heard some
Israelis also who speak out against this. They're
all they also say a lot of information
is kept from them, and they're over here,
you know, wining and dining and just having
a great time. And they're just programmed like
these people, they just wanna eradicate us. Exactly.
Yeah? Absolutely. And they the government is structured,
and the society is structured
by containing
the information
and having a segregated realm for Jews and
a segregated realm
for Palestinians.
The occupation
thrives
on segregation,
and that's what one of the reasons why
we wanted to deliver protests that were peaceful,
to let
Jews living in the land be aware by
sharing our stories together
of the oppression and suffering
that we are facing in Palestine. So it
was not just only for the world or
for Americans or for Europe. It's for people
who live in Jerusalem,
who don't know, and who think of the
Palestinian
as one step away from eradicating them. Exactly
as you, by the way, described.
Mhmm. And through fear of Palestinians,
that segregation is maintained.
One second. I'm trying to,
find something I wanted to show you. Mickey,
you can call it the Palestinian phobia instead
of Islamophobia.
Absolutely. Palestinian
phobia. And that's a
true experience that every day people are suffering.
The the reality of these attacks
on Palestinians
includes the attack of silence,
the fact that they can't speak,
they can't
declare
the injustices that they suffer
because the authorities
keep stifling
their opportunities
to share to the world or to other
Jews
the experiences that they
endure every day. Yes. So that's, a reality.
And and so the occupation is not just
about the overt things
that authorities
commit on a daily basis. It's also of
the covert silence Yes. That they engage in.
So, yeah, absolutely,
Eddie. That's
a huge part of the reality of the
occupation.
And the the prisons,
are one of the most extraordinary
technologies
to enable the persistence of the silence
because no one knows
of the shouting, of the torture, of the
attacks
behind the bars
of the jails
in the underground.
Mhmm.
And so the this silence is,
a real
part of of the occupation.
One one,
story that
I think is
many might wanna hear
is that many of these youth
are presented
with a with a life
of uncertainty.
People go through these cycles. At the time
they turn 13, the Israeli forces come to
their door,
and it's preemptive. Like, they don't do anything.
They're just trying to train Palestinians to recognize
that you could be imprisoned anytime,
and they grab Palestinians sometimes randomly at different
times. And so it someone might be getting
married, someone might just have a child,
and then suddenly, they find themselves in prison
and they don't know when they're gonna be
released. And so this is a measure of
the occupation. Making sure that no one speaks
out, that there's no opportunities for Palestinians to
share their story is a vital part, and
it's truly part of the wisdom of the
prophet
to speak out.
So these are kids before we conclude now,
so these are kids
that are taken at such a young age
Yes. Thrown in jail
in the dungeon also like you were, and
they just don't know their parents
have no rights
or way to get them out? Absolutely. Absolutely.
And and it becomes just part of life
Like you begin to try to find ways
but it's unknowable
to prevent yourself from getting in prison. But
also you have the pressure
that you have to make ends meet. You
have to go out and work. You have
to go into a car.
School as well.
Yeah. And people still that that's one of
the most,
indomitable features of the Palestinian people.
They still have all these dreams but the
dreams themselves
are part of the brutality
of the occupation
Yeah Yeah. Or you can't pursue them. Before
we conclude, do you have an organization
that, details more of some of your work
and
can learn more about what's happening there? Absolutely.
I'm the one of the cofounders of the,
Abandoned Biden Movement. We have an organization called
the Civil Rights Alliance for America. It's dedicated
to use the political system to advance the
priorities and interests
of the Ummah. In particular,
for now we're focusing on the issue in
Palestine
and we're asking people
to abandon
the president, a genocider
who's enabling
these attacks,
in Gaza to persist.
We the case we make is that if
we punish the president
and then we're the ones who are seen
as the reason
at our own hands, Muslim Americans who have
the power to do that in the swing
states then we would end up buying power
because right now the problem if you diagnose
it is that no one
is taking us seriously
even though we are speaking out and coming
out in protests
and so we must punish
politicians
almost all of them
right now
who are
not advancing the interests of Palestinians
despite the clear images
of suffering and injustice
that's taking place. And so
we are making the case that Muslim Americans
might be the most powerful Muslims on the
planet, and yet they don't know it. And
all they have to do is vote,
vote against genocide
and vote for truth.
And through telling the truth, they would fall
follow in the footsteps of the prophet who
asked us to say the truth even if
it harms us.
And so that's our goal. Thank you guys.
Thank you guys for sharing this, with us.
Hopefully,
people who are
trying to understand the situation better. Just shed
some more light on it, and whoever's humanity
is on,
they can go ahead and speak out.
Speak out.
Dear brother, for always speaking out. And I
may also all the Muslims all around the
world, we ask you to speak out
and to ask
those who we live with
for the prevailing of truth and justice to
come,
not only to Muslims, but all non Muslims
on this planet that suffers and at a
time which our Ummah is weak and so
much in dire need of a victory.
May Allah
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