The Deen Show – Former Hiphop Artist Loon Talks Death (Michael Jackson, Biggie, 2pac, Kobe Bryant, Young Dolph)
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But as you can see in the background, but third time, a main man, my brother in Islam, and he has invited me once again. You kind of look a little bit different to me today than how we've been seeing you in those pop videos. There's learn still in there somewhere. No one is working his way out of my system. I ran into Islam so much it was no way I can deny. I will be in certain cities and I will hear the event being called. And the sound better than any record I've ever heard.
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Smilla Hermione Rahim Al hamdu lillahi rabbil aalameen as salam aleikum, greetings of Peace Now, very excited elated. We got a special guest in the studio. We got our brother from a previous life known as aka loon. I was in the past life this light now here with our brother Amir here on the D show. Don't go anywhere break back
As salam o Eiko by
Greenpeace, my man, how you doing? I'm doing good, how's everything going? Everything's been good. I've been home now for almost a year and a half 16 months I think to be exact. So I'm just
living for the for the people who are tuning in, you know, for the first time or are not really, you know, acquainted with your background can just kind of give us some highlights of, you know, to your past life as I introduced it, I know, you don't like I noticed myself also I kind of, you know, when people start talking about, you know, some of the things in my past it's, it's something over done with but yeah, but I mean, people benefit from so, you know, I've grown to learn to accept that, you know, being who I was, you know, saying loon formula, Bad Boy Records, you know, is the door,
you know, the door or gateway to get into get acquainted with a man. So, like, for those who don't know, me, or don't really know, the changes I made in my life, and they can only, you know, acknowledge me, as, you know, according to what they know. So I've learned to just accept that you know, what, maybe this would be a means to, you know, calling someone to Islam, or engaging in conversation has been efficient. So, you know, I'm not appalled by it. Yeah. I think it bothers me more than the Muslims call me long. Yeah. Yeah. So tell us who was loon like for because you have a lot of these now. And what we learned yesterday for I was, it was interesting when people ask you
about some of these new names that are coming up, you know, and there was one. I don't follow any of this, but there was one he was just all over the news. His name was young Dorf. Have you heard of him? He was all over the news. Now I just heard about him, you know, when he um, no return to Allah I didn't know anything about him before that. But you know, after death, a lot of things start to unfold before and I hear no, he pretty much know good genuine young guy. And I think that you know, because my focus is the youth even if they're not Muslim, you know, I really believe that we have to kind of celebrate some of the young guys is actually out there trying to do the right thing. It may
need some guidance, some assistance you know, I try to look to those individuals with some form of consideration you know, compassion, but generally you're not upon some of the most of the new
like I say, you know, I've been approached
with
no series of encounters with music like preferably when I'm in a barber shop or something like that you know, I can't really regulate someone's you know sound system in a business you know, where you end up having a fight the whole barber shop so what happens is you know, just out of curiosity sometimes like that and they'll tell me the guy name
you know might be in a barber shop in another setting and I hear that song is similar to the last one Oh, that's the guy little such a sudden other little little somebody else and I'm like, It's upon a lot like you know what, I'm not gonna even attempt to try to keep track of how many you know guys they got little before the name. So you know, now young Dorf. You didn't know who he was, I didn't know who he was. It was on the news. He was going to get some cookies. And then he got gunned down. Right and he was having a beef with Yo Gotti you heard of this yo guy? I really, really I know I mean, I know y'all got his you know, saying
You know, he was around actually, when I was leaving the business, you know, so he's always been kind of, you know big in that area of Memphis and stuff and you know for what I hear he's, you know, all his career taking off. But I really don't keep up with, you know, especially anything I got, you know the fitness I'll get to my point now I'll get to my point. Very important because this can be this was a turning point for my life and many people because many people become numb to this topic that I'm going to go into in a second. So but you know about the because you had young Gowdy from when I was looking into this, because I did a little talk on it. Young guardian and young Dorf he
was talking about I'm never going to go out like Biggie and smallest not. That's your generation. Right? Yeah. Those are your boys. Yeah, pretty much. I was, you know, both of them. And a big Yeah, I didn't, I didn't know pop. Okay. Biggie was on the record label with you. Well, he was on bad boy, before I was I didn't get on bad boy until after big died. So okay, so And after mace left. So you know, I can't see like a mentor to you back in a day. Well, I looked at him Biggie Biggie Smalls. Now I looked at him was a Peer, peer to peer or mentor be somebody that actually helps really you and guide you to certain things, that's my opinion. And they never did that for me. But as far as
inspiring me at that time to want to be a really good artist. You know, I definitely was, you know, inspired by talent at the time, but, and we hung out quite a few times before things got really, really big for him. So I watched kind of his transition into being just a hungry artist, and transition into like a global star. And he always was the same guy, he was always laid back. He was always cool. I didn't really see no changes. And you know, his behavior was, you know, his character. So, you know, he's just a good guy to know, at the time. Okay, follow along. So you got like Biggie, Tupac. So you know who they are definitely. Right. So now to park.
He's, I mean, he was probably somebody who was well known all over the world right now. Absolutely. I mean, I think both of them both have impacted the world, you know, from two different angles, you know, big being a lyricist, and very, very creative with, you know, his skill and to pop being more of, you know, revolutionary. And he kind of spoke to, you know, the plight of African Americans in this country. So they both had very, very powerful impact on the people. So I don't think there's a person on the planet that can familiarize themselves with the hip hop business and not know who began to populates. You said some interesting, we'll get to it, but how long do you think people
grieved? They're gone now? Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, grievance, you know,
because you've made a great example. And that's what so we had to pop biggie. They're no longer on this earth. Then young Dorf. Interesting enough, he was like, I'm not gonna go out like them. He also got into this, you know, beef with someone he got gunned down, sad to say. And then you mentioned something that hadn't connect all this upon Oh, look at you mentioned Michael Jackson. Yeah, how much time he spent, you know, entertaining the people. And at the end, they gave him two weeks? Well, I think, what I'll connect all these, they're all what I was alluding to have in common, what the thing is what I was alluding to and election, because election was based around,
you know, the price of the worldly life, yeah. And us as Muslims, we understand that, you know, this worldly life is just fleeing from us, you know, that Allah created, you know, this doing it or just worldly life as a means to test us, you know, saying is also a means to provide for us. So, you know, you have is good is have you have is bad. But the problem is with a lot of people who actually chase the glory, and try to derive honor and all these things from the worldly life by way of the people. What happens is, you know, they invest so much into striving or chasing something that's fleeing from you. And then once you know, you return to Allah, you die and never get the get the
full grasp of what you were chasing.
The end result is that people may remember you for a short period of time. And then that also passes. So what I mentioned about Michael Jackson, somehow Indiana, I went to visit, you know, you know, the house on 2300 Jackson Street. And it just brought a lot of things to my attention about Michael Jackson one, you know, is the consensus of a lot of Muslims to actually confirm that he accepted Islam before he got more by the name of Mikhail there was a consensus however, he touched upon it last year he's for right. Michael Jackson died as a Muslim. Yeah. And Phil, I understand I think his brother Jemaine as well accepted me and also circuit Islam. So the point I was trying to
make is, you know, Michael Jackson spent his
entire youth all the way up to his demise.
Entertaining the people by his life literally belong to the fence, you know, and when he died, I remember just this whole, you know,
like this mass grievance that just spread across the world, you have people out there with a Billie Jean jackets on with a thriller jackets, just crying guys out the moonwalk and pop locking and everything. And then I remember like it was a tsunami or something in Japan, then after that, you didn't hear nothing else about Michael Jackson. Um, so like, when you look at how much you know, a person sacrifice for the entertainment of others. And then once they're gone,
they're really gone. You know, and it's like, it's on to the next thing.
And I looked at that as a beautiful example, to understand the value of this worldly life and how insignificant it is, you know, to Allah subhanaw taala. But how it should also be insignificant to us, that we can't hold on to it, we can't take it with us. You know, even Egyptians tried everything they try to take with them, you know, in the afterlife is sitting in a museum right now on display, we can see it, which means they wasn't able to take it with them.
So when you look at, you know, the youth in general, most of them now most and they are chasing something that's fleeing away from the or chasing something that's insignificant, it has no value when it's all said and done. So, as responsible young men and men in general, we have to start looking at what's more meaningful, what's more beneficial, what has more value, not only in this life, but in the hereafter. Because as Muslims, this is what we're striving for. We're striving for that final bow, that Allah Subhana Allah has prepared for those who believe in Allah and His Messenger, Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. So this becomes our ultimate goal. So you know,
I've been touring,
again, on the line giving, you know, lectures, trying to remind myself first and foremost, but focusing mostly on the youth, because I see that they are a generation that really, you know, establishing their own presence. They're not really expounding or, you know, elaborating on what proceeded they're just creating their own existence. And it comes with a lot of, you know, peers, following peers. So, I have made a comment about, you know, something that's common when you're young. You ask somebody else this young, for advice, opposed to ask an elders, yes, your parents or people who preceded you to have experiences and knowledge of things that pass, you know, you're
asking for one dummy to another dummy. You know, how can I be smart, you know, so it's like, becomes a oxymoron. And I think that this generation is kind of stuck in that space of trying to, you know, extract understanding from each other, based upon their inclination to the very same thing. You know, materialism, you know, you know, fame, glory, you know, all these things. So, you know, just humbler I'm just extremely grateful that law guy and get away from these things from the law. 100 law so you connect all these situations where you had these people Biggie Smalls, you had to park before that Elvis Presley Madonna, you had. Now you had the young Dorf, you mentioned Michael
Jackson, Kobe Bryant, he touched upon Kobe as well I mean Kobe, once again, extremely dedicated athlete play every game like it was less and when he and his daughter you know, passed away, you know, resonate in the hearts with people all around the world. But there will become a time when you know, it'd be faintly mentioned or faintly Remember, no same meaning outside the immediate family. That immediate family will always know hold that spot and always you know, exercise you know the the pain that come with that loss for us as fans and outside of the sauna so Flo for just a matter of time before we forget and move on to the next thing that I'm saying or move on to the next
grievance, you know, and it just shows you how temporary you know this life is and then we can only you know, celebrate when we reached that final boat that we all striving for. You know regardless of some people believe that
A path leads them there, so on and so forth, but we No, no as a fat, native speech of Allah is true. What we read in the Quran is true. From the sun and the guidance of Mohammed Salah Salem, we follow the path that leads to that. And as long as we hold on to that, inshallah will be from No to life at the Monsal will be funded Victoria school, sha Allah He has the Hadith the Prophet saw some last semester said to mankind said think often of the destroyer of pleasures, death. So we touched upon this to awaken some of the hearts that become a numb to this. Now how numbed up? Were you back in the day? Let's go just take a trip back in time, were you ever when the topic of DEF would come up?
Did you ever think about it? If it was brought up? Was it ever brought up? And what would you when it was brought up? You know, right now you enjoy talking about it, obviously, how was it back then? Well, the thing is,
the way I view death, before Islam was something that just comes to an abrupt halt.
I never really
looked at anything happening after death. So like many people, and I'm pretty sure it's way more common and rare that you just try to live it up, you just try to live it up. No, I'm saying until that moment comes when you know that everything is going to abruptly stop and it's just gonna fade the black. You know, so
I live my life according to the understanding that I'm just in this moment, doing any and everything I can. Like, literally like before I used to get on the plane, I had to make sure I was high, you know, saying, like, I had to smoke, so we had to do no Sassette because it might be the last I must say it might be the last time you know anything. And I always used to think that way. Always living in that moment. But now, you know, as a Muslim, there's still some significance to this living in that moment. Because you're not promised tomorrow, you understand. But the difference is, what
I was striving for before,
was just only leading to destruction.
But now what I'm striving for same content, living in the moment, only able to grasp or gauge what Allah has made tangible for me today.
But having high aspirations for tomorrow, knowing that is not promised though. So you try to maximize and make the most out of today. So there's a parallel understanding from the past to the present. But it's just a different goal, different objective. No saying so I think that that's common to human beings, that
you know, fearing death,
knowing that when is over is over. And a lot of people wish they can cheat death wish they can escape it, you know, saying wish they can prolong life, and so on and so forth. But when you understand, like Allah says in the Quran, and Kulu, nefs, and Vega, Telmo verily every soul will taste death. So we know that now. So we overdo it, you know, saying is inevitable, is inescapable. So once you come to that conclusion, at that point, you have to live and you have to live according to what's correct. Because death is inevitable. If we will all given a date, you understand, we will live a certain way.
Knowing that we know our date. I know exactly on this date, on this month of this year, I'm going to return to Allah. So with that being said, I'm going to live the best life that I can live.
Everyone will follow was correct if they had that day. But the trial comes with the unknown, not knowing when that day is gonna come.
You know, and that's where the fear comes in. When people you know, say fear God, or feel love. Or you say, Oh, he's a God fearing person. A God fearing person is a person that knows that he's not in control of what's inevitable, which is death. No saying so you don't live in the state of all of fear, which affects your way of living. You live in a state of fear knowing that you don't control the outcome, you know, so this actually becomes the basis of foundation of how you live. So, you know, this is what I was trying to touch base in the lecture yesterday, and hopefully, you know, Allah made it a benefit for the people, you know, any benefit for myself as well. Yeah, that should
be something that awakens the heart and mind to think deeper than just a superficial life. And often someone dies and you see everybody sending the RIP dress
Yeah, and people have this, you know, misconception that, oh, he just went off to a better place, you know what I mean? And it's funny, because it's funny, you said that because I grown up where I came from, you know, you will get like a shirt mate. Which homeboy face on it, yeah, everyone would drink, pull out liquor, burn candles, just create all kinds of rituals that have no legislative proof to support that, this is something praiseworthy is all emotion, right. And then not only that,
like you said,
you know, when this inevitable thing reaches us,
you know,
a lot of times
people have a hard time accepting
once again, was inevitable. So, grievance becomes way, way longer than it should be, understand,
grievance becomes something that is so, you know, burdensome to where people have health issues, you know, I'm saying they start losing their hair, they start losing weight, they start losing their desire to eat and so on, so forth. And this goes on for years sometimes, because people have not grasped the idea that death is an escape
is inevitable, it will reach every single soul. You know. So, you know, like I said, growing up, it was just, you know, how we view death was bought a lot of things, you know, bought out,
you know, emotions that you try to, you know, honor and respect the person that passed
the board out opportunities, especially where I came from,
he dies, I mean, his growth is available, stock for the loving, like, this is the truth. He's gone. So whatever, you know, his girl is that mean, she's available. You know, I grew up being in funerals, where the person who's responsible for the person in that casket
is present, kissing on that guy's mother,
shaking hands with friends and family.
And another thing I didn't understand when I was young, you know, being from a Christian background,
you know, pastor will always say that everyone is going to a better place.
Almost as if * is empty.
Like no one goes to *.
Everyone that dies, goes to a better place. You understand. And this is what makes people accept death, when they have no understanding of it. They believe that everyone qualifies for this Paradise,
knowing that the inhabitant of that Casket or that grave, may have done unspeakable, horrific things,
in complete opposition to what Allah commands, or what is asked him from his Creator, but yet, you'll have someone standing over his casket was mothers sitting in slide in a chair crying, and no sand, just belligerent. And you try to ease everyone by saying, he's in a better place now.
I have never seen anyone in my previous life, stand up on that pulpit and say, this duel here is going to *.
This duel here is not deserving
of paradise. Never heard of it. It also, we know that this final ending is not known to man period. Right. And this is something that's established in every book that was revealed, whether it's the Torah, whether the gospel, whether the psalms that could add that this is an unknown thing. So they try to reassure another creature,
that they're fine, we're boulders want to be in eternal state of bliss.
You know, this is some type of force comforting, that's being offered to people who have no real understanding of what death is,
you know, and how to prepare for it.
Because you have to prepare for something that's inevitable.
And that's why the crater sent these revelations and we have the living miracle of the Quran. And you touched upon this yesterday how you are actually trying to guard someone, you know, someone who has this is for anybody, you know, who now is watching listening to hear as mentioned death, one of their favorite artists, musicians, you know, from one of these people that we mentioned, they're like, Okay, but you know, it's nebulous for a lot of people. They're confused, right, you know, and people end up making things up on their own following their desires. Yeah, but you have this book that's been revealed the Quran, and you mentioned something about it yesterday how you were so
envious.
You know, because you accepted Islam submission to the Creator, not the creation and you didn't become remiss in performing your obligations and duties, you start establishing the prayer. They started fasting their month of Ramadan, and all the other things. You know, this is a leader you have it you have, you know, following the Sunnah you haven't you? You didn't just take it in just half step. You gotta mean, half in the D and half out, right? Yeah, you smoke totally. My God Almighty. Allah says enter into Islam wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly. Yeah. And it's amazing to see that, you know, I mean, so the thing is, by nature will follow us. Yeah. And I mentioned this as
well, last night. No sons follow the father is the only example you have in your household when you're growing up.
That son's father follow his father. So as is my nature we follow. So, coming from the back when I came from, whether it was the street or the music, you know, I never possess the characteristic of a follower. Other than following my own desires, to achieve what the streets had to offer, or to achieve with the music business had to offer. But as far as following another individual's path, or following another individual's life or lifestyle, so on and so forth, and never been a party. And I think this is what fascinated a lot of people that know me growing up, that I've never been a follower. Even like being, you know, under the, you know, the umbrella of such a, you know,
impactful individual, like Sean Combs. He's a mogul. He's impacted the culture with music. But even he wasn't an individually I was inclined to follow, you know, you know, so it's like,
when people see me accept this love, of religion of following i, this is a religion of following. We follow the Quran. And we follow the Sunnah meaning and prophetic traditions of Mohammed, bin Abdullah, peace and blessings be upon him. He was exemplary character.
When it came to business, being a father, and a husband, military expert, you know, saying he was all these examples. So that means that the religion is complete, you have a message that was sent, who covered all bases,
cover all bases. So the example was clear. Right? So now we can enter Islam wholeheartedly. We can enter now wholeheartedly because we have an exemplary character, since all mankind has a mercy. And his companions, right, was an extension of all those fine qualities. And they're the ones that convey the religion, to the next generation to the next generation, the most virtuous generations to what we have in our possession today. So this is a religion of following. So when it comes down to us, following our innate nature to follow, what better path to follow the path that's been prescribed by your Creator, who knows you better than you know yourself. But it's just sad to see
the youth today. Who,
every once in a while, I'm pretty sure they have some type of connection with difficulty with a natural disposition to want to do good. Even like you mentioned, that guy, young dog, I didn't know anything about. But I'm starting to hear after his death to hear you're doing good things, buying a lot of property in the communities and so on and so forth. I know a lot of guys that try to give back, trying to look back try to help somebody because instinctive to want to do the right thing.
But
these things are more self serving, and subservient.
Because this is where the reward comes from. being subservient.
self serving says is easy. It's easy to serve your own desires. It's easy to chase your own desires.
But when you're following this path that's been prescribed by your creator in the messenger, they said, This is a path of subservience, doing things solely for the sake of your creative pleasure,
in accordance to the messenger that he said, it's a simple script is a simple path as a simple life.
You know,
when you mentioned Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him was the last one of Mr. Sun to mankind, coming from a Baptist background, right, Christian Baptists and Christians obviously have this deep love for Jesus. But now just to touch upon this you love would you say you love Jesus more now as a Muslim absolutely before? Absolutely, because we already know there's a lot of additions and subtractions in the Bible that exist today, top theologist pastors ministers all around the world
affirm this, even if the followers have this, you know, practice or this faith,
deem it to be untrue. The reality of it is those who are most verse, and understanding the text as present today, that there's been alterations, there's been things taken out, there's been things added, so on and so forth. But the one thing that remains exclusive all throughout the Bible
is God's right to be worshipped alone without any partners, without any interceding.
And then the messenger ship of Jesus,
you know, saying becomes something very, very significant, and, you know, gravitation for the Muslim, because now, if you came from a Christian background, and you had your confusion, or your, you know, your, your doubts about whether Jesus is worthy to be worshipped or follow by what is worthy to be worshipped? Or Is he worthy to be followed? Because that's the confusion. His existence is not the confusion. We're not confused about his existence.
You know, saying, but growing up as a Baptist, my confusion was whether or not he used to be worship was he to be follow? Because we used to say statements like, what we're trying to do. So these are statements saying that, okay, whatever he did, I should follow him. Right? Because you can't say, to the one that you worship, what would he do?
I don't know, you know, if my intention is the worship, but if my intention is to follow Him, then I have to investigate what he did, what actions he performed, or what he implemented, when adversity hit, in order for me to follow up. So becoming a muslim, it becomes abundantly clear that he was one of the most beloved messages to Allah, you know, and I can't be Muslim.
Unless I believe in Jesus, I can't be a Muslim unless I believe in his immaculate conception. I can't be a Muslim unless I believe that He is the Word of God, meaning he's the manifestation of the statement be. And then he was Amen brother, not the walkie talkie. And even speaking words, he's the manifestation of this statement be. And then he was in the womb of a virgin. So now all this clarity only increases your inclination to this beloved messenger. And knowing that today, even as a Muslim, I'm following his methodology,
you know, saying, So now my love and appreciation for him has grown and multiply.
You know, and this is what brings a lot of Christians to Islam, you know, outside of other things that Allah choose to change the hearts, but when it comes to like, a studious perspective, or, you know, analyzing, you know, saying certain doubts, like I said, or confusion, this clarity is what makes people who come from this previous belief, context now, let's touch upon that Tawheed because as a Christian, a lot of Christians, you know, they follow along, you know, they come in, jump in Sunday, and go through all the musical you know, instruments everybody's dancing, slings, you know, singing, clapping, and then you know, when it comes down to this trinity, right, people are
confused, right? But you know, Mike father did it, did it you know, my parents and I just kind of blending in you know, to me, absolutely. So you went through that also, I'm sure and you know, a lot of people but when you come down to the clarity of Islam, you know, for the person that this this is the thing that did it for me really, one of the things along with the evidence, Quran has the evidence that is from the Divine, it's not blind faith, right? If you prophecies miracles, there's no way that this book can come from a human being you know, this from the Creator. So now when you look at you know, the pure monotheism, right? Because the Trinity is confusing. What you know, am I
gonna worship the Father, Son, Holy Ghost? How did this when you learn the pure monotheism of Islam? Well, the thing is
the Quran and it affirms everything, every book that was the preceding. So now there's a bridge, no saying it's not like you have to discard
completely.
Everything that preceded
that monotheistic command remains in the Torah, the remains in the Gospel remains in a song though they're still there. I tell people, you know, like, this is the thing.
When I have conversations with Christians, is a lot more easier for me because I was a Christian. Yes. So depending on what's the basis of a person's belief is something that's been handed down.
Then the dialogue that you have with this individual has to be very, very careful because you're not offending their belief. When it comes down to it, You're offending the one
They got it from understand. It's like you're calling my grandmother alive. This is where the defensive Nick comes not like you're using legislation to defend what you believe you're defending the one that you entrust it which of belief which have faith. And me contradicting that is as if I'm calling them Elia. So this is where the, you know, the aggression comes in the budding and the argumentation and so on and so forth. So we're not speaking to someone who this is their plight. I kind of tread lightly. But I enjoy having conversations with people who actually read the Bible. Because then it becomes easy to point out all the exclusive statements that still remain here, O
Israel, the LORD our God is one. Yeah, love your Lord, with all your might, with all your strength with all your heart with all your soul. Now 1/3 for Mary 1/3 for Holy Ghost 1/3 for the traveling St. Patrick 1/3 for nothing, no, he said all that so he that means singling out Allah, or singling out God, with all these different characteristics, and the Lord's Prayer has Islam in it, or Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done. This is absolute. And people don't really understand the King's English anyway. Because I'm gonna tell you that is a verse. When I was young, I used to be a Bible study. But you should also be in Bible study
shows that you did your homework.
I was a church six days a week, six days a week as a kid, wow, I left church because of the actions of the people. But what always remained is those exclusive statements and some of the misconceptions that I wanted clarity for, for example, there's a verse in the Bible that tells you clonal, man on earth, your father.
But then we have a command that says, Honor thy mother, father,
a child, that's confusing, right? Because dads don't get nicknames. Yeah, when you're acknowledging who they are in totality. You're my father, right? So you're my father. How can I follow this verse? That commands me to call no man on earth my father. So now the investigation leads to the King's English, the King's English, Father and the Son. linguistically, in the King's English means servant and master. So now if I convert the word into master, now it makes sense Call no man on earth, your master? Now I can honor my father. No, say it's a little things like this is what get took in word for word verbatim as to be the word.
But passion, I place no other God before me. That's till he write. The word God linguistically means object of worship. So now Thou shalt not please no other object of worship before me. That becomes clear to me that there's another verse in Isaiah says, You may know me and know that I am He, before me know God was formed. Nor should it be in the afternoon.
For I am the Lord and beside me there is no savior.
So now that clarifies who my savior is, the One who created me as the only one that can save me. Now Jesus, not Muhammad, not me, because that was an old test. Yes. So this is before the advent of Jesus. So now, we cannot take this infinite wisdom and knowledge of the Creator and say that he made a mistake. You know what, later on I know, I mean, I changed my mind.
He's going to be a Lord and say, that the only way to justify that will be saying that Jesus says, God, that'd be the only way you can justify that. But once you have an exclusive statement where God is telling you that besides me, there is no savior. The only way you be able to justify a creative being
to be a savior is if Allah gives his divinity relinquishes it and gives it to his creation. That will be our only way to justify when you would go into the churches, you go in different churches, you go to a Greek Orthodox Church, we got a picture Jesus certain color. Asian church you have
ever seen with afro, get out here. Jesus. Jesus had an apple that apple. Yeah, I mean, Apple Apple pick, they had a Spanish No, the Puerto Rican, they had Jesus, you know, hey, Zeus, he had a nice, no curly hair like, so. I mean, this is, this is this is a symbol of hope, and belief and so on and so forth. And I'm not here to attack anyone. No, no, no, no, no, it's just that to my experiences. I've learned as a person who wasn't searching for religion after I removed myself from the actions of the people of the church. Yeah. And what I learned from the Bible or whatever misconceptions I have, I can never get answers. I will ask because I mean, if I'm here, present every day I'm
studying I think I deserve the right to get clarity when I'm
Running into certain things that are, you know, not clear.
So that became a trial for me. And then I'm the, like I said later on in life to be able to find this lamb and be able to find that everything that was revealed before is the firm in this book. I would have never been able to have a conversation with a Jewish person today like I can't, I will never have opportunity or ability to have a conversation with a learn Christian person with the preacher theologist whatever. I can have dialogue with all these people knocking one but no one can say that like now they're listening. someone watching said, Man, this guy wasn't a real Christian. Well, if they say that, I mean we all entitled to an opinion, you know, saying but
I don't think that anyone that follow Jesus during His Messenger ship were considered Christians. They will consider Muslims they will consider it one who submits to the Word of God for Muslim means is a universal term. Yeah, no, that concept was there. Yeah, no more calls people that follow Jesus Moses knights. No one calls people who follow Abraham he Bohemians like these terms never came. And until good solid. Yeah, until the advent of a salumeria. Jesus, the son of Mary, as we acknowledged him, yeah, you know, so now, God doesn't have a skin color, skin tone, or nationality zip code in Islam is clear. Kulu Allah had a level son that lemmya lead will unmuted while I'm Nicola, who Khufu
one. Now this is we just did something this is the living miracle. See, like, we didn't plan this. But you know that this is like you're reciting that you're not Arab. This is what the language the sister language to Arabic, Aramaic to Arabic preserved. So you can go ahead and go with someone who's memorized the entire Quran. And they can go ahead just like we did with the whole Quran back and forth, he wanted a greatest memory miracle that we have in our possession to date. And kind of say this, in closing is that if we were to discard
every book that's possessed by
a Jew,
a Christian
and the Muslims,
the Muslims will be able to reproduce another quote an hours because there's hundreds of millions of Muslims who memorize the Quran for front and back, children, nine years old, memorize the Quran, from front to back. If you were to remove a single haircut, a single vow, we will know
to recite is, you know, saying and people you know, who memorize the Quran, yeah, those other books will be lost, they'll be lost.
Because even if there is a single soul that memorizes the whole Torah from front to back,
it will never be to the magnitude of the Muslims because we recite the Quran every day.
Every single day. Yeah. So to compile it once again, in it's in a chronological order. It was compiled, you know, saying it the very first time
we will be able to do that ours. A couple more questions before we conclude, tell me now for people who are out there, and they, because many misconceptions and many people and this is not to disparage on anybody's religion, anybody's faith, but some people now though, because of the mass confusion, they'll think, okay, is he talking about the Nation of Islam? Did you have an influence of Farah Khan have some influence over you? You know, are you talking about that's this law Mutombo because in the urban areas, you have the Nation of Islam, and they've done some good work, you know, to me, help them get people off the street, you know, give them the bean pies and all that. But now
what would you tell someone fair conferences he might be watching the deen show, right? If you had to sit down with him, he found me. What What would you say to the nation? You know, is this the Islam you're talking about? The thing is this.
And I'm gonna give the people just understanding of what it is first and foremost, to be African American in this country.
Hundreds of years of disenfranchisement.
You know, seeing it continuously to the day, being demeaned, ostracized, be little, so on and so forth. We always needed a sense of belonging. And I'm saying a sense of unity, dignity, honor all the things that have been stripped.
So what you find from my culture, that we will quickly incline ourselves to anything that we can forge that can give us that whether it be the nation Islam, Black Panthers, Crips, Bloods, GDS, whatever the case may be, we find ourselves by default in class
To these forge Brotherhood's or unions, they give us a sense of belonging, a sense of dignity, a sense of honor, a sense of purpose.
But there's nothing on this planet that does that for creation.
Better than Islam.
You Unity cannot be established to nationalism has been tried.
history tell us it doesn't work. For all tried it. He tried to distinguish the people and raise his own people.
And Allah put that plot on that plan to seats. Hitler, he tried it.
This is nationalism doesn't work Subhanallah it doesn't work. Because you can't alienate a mass majority of people and try to raise one particular group and say that disappeared,
will allow only mentions in the court and believers and non believers you don't put race on anything is either you die believe or you die disbeliever there's no ethnicity. And no one owns this time. The Adams happened to be the smallest population of Muslims.
But they're the promotional vehicle for Islam. So people tend to believe, especially us as African Americans that that's an out of religion. Yeah, because the book was revealed in the Arabic language that the messenger was sent was out of, but there's not a single messenger that was sent. There was an English speaking messenger. And they did not come, you know, saying to us, particularly my culture, as a messenger, you know.
So, the thing is this.
I tell people all the time not to confuse Islam, Islam, the religion of Allah, the religion is for Allah
knows and for the embedment of his creation in totality, not just one group. Yeah. Don't confuse that with the nation. So don't confuse that with more science. Don't confuse that with the Five Percenters. Don't confuse that with none of that. Because instinctively, like I said, we want to gravitate to people that look like us. You know, saying, and this even resides, even amongst Islam, we're not free from it. Just because we appointed religion to treat it doesn't necessarily mean that nationalism doesn't exist is a human deficiency. Islam is free from that. This is a human deficiency. Islam unites all walks of life. When you see the Hyde season when there's 5 million 6
million people making to walk around the Kaaba, you can find your people there somewhere I don't care where you're from Indonesia Malaysia, Indonesia largest population of Muslims in the world you never hear about this largest population of Muslims in the world but majority of Africa a lot of those countries are predominantly Muslim countries. So when you want to change your heritage look back to the lands that you know your people where your ancestors came from a you'll find that most likely today is a predominantly Muslim country inshallah we can we can encourage people like Farah Khan if they watch you know, because they've they've made some great steps forward you know what I
mean? Taking you know certain things and incorporating them but now going to full extent like getting rid of certain things that totally you got this fraud Muhammad you know, to mean to make God Yeah, I mean that that that thing that this other what's his name? Elijah Muhammad was a messenger Yeah, the fight you know these things. Inshallah, most people who have come to true Islam, they seem to this but inshallah we can get some some more. Inshallah, you know, Allah guides, and I like what you said, if you look into the Quran, the Sunnah, and then the understanding of those best generation who were living with Prophet Muhammad, how they interpreted how they understood it, you
can't go wrong, you can't lose. Yeah, you can't lose. That is the correct methodology of Islam and the Quran and Sunnah in the age mode is sort of the consensus of the seller and what they agreed upon. Now saying in the most virtuous generations that follow the prophesy seller, he said, hi to NAS colony, formula, Dena Yamuna, home for melody ninguno, the best generation is my generation, and those that follow them, and those that follow them. So it becomes clear, we understand our religion, we don't have no problems with that I can look at you know, saying what is your ethnicity
was your nationality
from Bosnia was two individuals sitting here as brothers in Islam, from Bosnia, I've never been to Bosnia, I'm from Harlem, you know, saying, and I'm pretty sure we walk out the door we'll see someone else from somewhere else is Muslim, and so on and so forth. It's like you can't make this up. This is not a forged Union. This is not a for unity. This is not afford the Brotherhood. Allah says in the men movie network. Only the believers are brothers. Only the believers are brothers. Not only the Africans, not only the Hebrews, not only the elk
Only the believers above us. So as long as you believe in your Lord, and the last day, you believe in His Divine Decree, you believe in everything that he created, you believe they created everything with purpose. You believe that he said messages and concession to nation after nation at the nation. And finally, after his mercy out his mercy said the messenger to all mankind. If you believe that, then you fall into this brotherhood that Allah establish, and the men will be known ekwa Only the believers have brothers. Last question now that we can talk about this work that you're also doing.
Tell me, you know, people raising their kids, we touched upon this very important, and they're having these cards, you know, the basketball players cards, and then you know, people think it's not haram Brother, what's the problem? You know what I mean? You have family members, with their kids, and you see this and you're like, Okay, it's not haram, I understand what you're saying. But now, the hearts of being attached to the Kobe Bryant's to this famous basketball star, they're, you know, entertaining themselves, but you had a brilliant idea. Yeah, you know, you know, the Sahaba if you were to ask, you know, the youth to name some of the best human beings that lived the earth, you
know, what I mean? So talk about this, you know, the, and then your favorite Sahaba that you attached your heart to massage them, oh, man must have a little me. Yeah. And why you did that. So touch on these two things, is a real quick to not get too winded about, you know, this
reentering
this very crucial,
you know, point of understanding Islam better,
whether it be for the Muslim or the non Muslims is to know that campaigns. So as Muslims, especially Muslims that describe themselves to be a Sunni Muslims, you say we Sunni Muslims, we say we follow the salad. We follow the salah facade in the pious predecessors now saying we follow a physical to Nadia, no saying the safe set, diver to mon Sol, the victorious group, Apple Suniti, Wajima, all these different terms that were to sell Ophelia, we say we follow these things we ascribe ourselves to being upon the path of the most virtuous generation of Muslims who ever walked this planet? How can we affirm that if we don't know who they are? How can we affirm that if we don't know who they
are. So I believe there has been a very gross negligence. They'll say, outside of teaching, which is primary, you must know the Book of law, you have to know, you know, saying and under understand
with the understanding of the companions, you can't understand the code and the way you want to, you have to understand it the way they understood it. So in order to do that, in totality, you have to also understand who they were. So what I've been doing, is collaborating with, you know, communities that I've been invited to, to give talks and guest lectures, and so on and so forth. To start investing more time and teaching the youth about the greatest example they could ever have is the companions of the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and attaching themselves not only to the companions in general, but finding a single campaign that you have something in common with.
And using that as the barometer set on how you're going to deal with things, based upon how he dealt with things. And it becomes similar to the rookie cause we used to collect when we was young, you know.
And not only that, you know, getting acquainted with your campaign that you deal with today, getting acquainted with his campaign. So now that the attachment is not just based upon our interaction on a day to day, you're also a reflection, right? Of this companion that you revere and love. So now becomes a great connection between my love for Musab and omega. The other love for Holly even while he, I learned about Halima while he you learned about Musab and the man next to you know, we have this strong connection that fortifies the connection that we have as brothers in this, you know, and we need to know who the companions were, in order for us to implement the religion the way they did.
So, there's something that you know, I really hold dear because, like I said, I'm focused on the youth. I try to abstain from all of the other issues that may play, you know, the dour, you know, whether it be you know, misguided callers, whether it be people that ignorance, you know, saying claiming to be knowledgeable or whatever the case may be or issues that people have, you know, what the man has the youth in my eyes becomes the victims of this stuff.
So while I busy myself with the people who call into misguidance, or busy myself with the people who fall into innovation and shutter and all these things, when the youth are the ones who are being neglected. So my focus is listen, if the youth can see me as one of their peers, as someone that they can trust with their religion, to an extent, I'm not a student of knowledge, I'm not an island. I'm not a scholar. I'm a lay person, no saying, but I learned my religion to protect myself. And if I can extend that to protect the Chabad then let's start by fortifying our understanding of the religion so that you can protect yourself. This is the objective, this is the goal, you know. So
this hybrid program, I believe, is something that's very essential to reestablishing the correct understanding of Islam. So we can substitute those cards and have the word Sahaba cards. So why because that's Sharla necessarily anybody wants to you know, they actually have some this out there there's they have some this available for purchase right now. But I think it's more of a surface explanation of these campaigns. I'm trying to extend that to get you more and more in trouble inshallah someone watching watching the program, you know, who's innovative like this, they can, you know, do connect this is free. This is Islam. I mean, there's not there's not a soul brother Amir
price is a really good project everyone out there who ascribes themselves to teaching the youth to correct Islam. You had to teach them the Book of Allah, you had to teach them the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW Selim. And you have to teach them about the the right the guy to khalifa, Rashidi.
Those that follow them in totality and faith from the tabby and a tabby tabby. These are the virtual regeneration if you're not teaching that, then how do we ascribe ourselves to being Sunni Muslims? Because it's not a game? Yeah, you don't just jump out and just say him so yeah. And I just give this example of somebody and you are hanging out you know, for 20 years you know, my slang you know, my, my the context of my words you tell me to go a hurry, I'll go break a leg we'll bring you this you know, to me and I'll take that 100 600,000 years later. And now you take that literally, you're trying to figure it out. You know, I said, Are you breaking people's legs? Now? Hold on Tom. Hurry
up. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. Or you can give other examples so they're the ones that understood they understood the province or understood it Yes, better than us today. So this is where there's a lot of you know that every single Muslim walk on this planet they understand exactly what I'm saying. So other words their way or the highway
they love me following their way May Allah guide you to that which is correct and they love return you back to which is correct oh just one more thing you said something really deep it was profound said you're trying to bring me back into you know when people ask you to come back and to start doing some you know, different types of music Yeah, that's that's as brothers is just lost in the moment or not really thinking about the welfare the brother like you can't invite me to go back to drinking if I'm a recovering alcoholic, say no, just drink non alcoholic beverage might look like they got zero alcohol.
Why would I drink a Heineken? Right? There's gonna be a gateway to me drinking a real headache. How would I drink a Heineken that has no alcohol, right? Nobody's allow Heineken. Listen, I just came from there. Don't
worry, I just changed from a woman I survived the war you asked me to go back and fight again.
Stop for loving Subhanallah you know but I understand sometimes you know we human beings in a Muslim be caught up in the moment. And they have ideas based on how they see you. They only see me as artists. You know saying even though Muslims desperate they see like yo, when you come back to know why drop another album.
I'm pushing 50 That is the jayvees and only 5050 to like, partly these guys. Oh, I ain't too far from here. This is a young man's game. Firstly, still asking you why?
First and foremost, music is haram. No saying not just haram. For me, it's haram for all of us. But for those of us this week, and still struggle with their inclination or desire to listen to music or you listening to some person who describes himself to be a person that now is telling you that there's a basis for the permissibility of music and so on and so forth. Stuff for a lot. You just gave it to him wrong. There's no you're insured. Why would I know saying Why would I compromise? My Deen
right
at the expense of Allah's Anger to make somebody else happy.
That's not loyalty. We have lol law we have loyalty and this essential
Right, loyalty is to Allah and His messenger. And this is associated with anything that contradicts that you got to stand for something or you fall for anything. You don't say, I believe that that is a real characteristic and trait of a man, you stand for something or you fall for anything.
So if you know for a fact that they legislated proof, the contradiction desires that you got to choose their proof of your desires, that's Islam. That's where the discipline comes in. That's the thing that fascinates a lot of people about Islam, that I can start right in the middle of basketball game, like y'all gotta go see me slightly more, every fourth quarter manually to have a break. So what happens is two things either person going respect that wait to give a license rights, but they're not gonna pick me to play no more. And I'm cool with both.
I'm cool with both. You could wait to give Allah's rights, I'll come right back in * like I never left. Or don't pick me no more. I can live with that. No, and this is what it is to be a man, we have to stand on what we believe. Because once that stripped from you, you just a vessel
is nothing in it.
It faith does not reside in the heart. Belief is not reside on the tongue and limbs, action statements, so on and so forth. You just a vessel, you're in a way.
And I choose not to be in a way. I'm humbled. I'm not I mean, so that's it in concluding we're out of time. You want to touch upon, you have some projects, you know, doing back, you know, to the Absolutely, it's very important that people understand, you know, the hunger crisis, not just in our country, but around the world, you know, and a partner Sam upon, we are the founder and co founder of pay mils, which is a mobile application, that's going to impact hunger in a massive way. Bismillah al Tala sha Allah. So basically, it enables contributors to purchase meals for people in need to register paid meals vendors. So the registered paid meal vendors, consistent grocery stores,
restaurants, food trucks, food cars, and certified chefs. So basically, if I see a person in need, I can purchase a meal for them. Right.
And they can go into any registered paid no vendor and redeem the mill, alongside the honor, the dignity, so on and so forth. Because that's from Islam, that we preserve and protect the honor of the people, not just our own, we have to protect the honor the people. So
people associate hunger with homelessness. Homelessness is definitely ground zero for hunger, food insecurity. But the majority of people who actually suffer from food insecurity are the people who barely live above the poverty line.
This is where I'm more familiar, growing up in the ghettos of America, that we don't understand families that
stretched one stick of butter for a whole week or month, no saying well, I have to resort to all types of alternative methods just to make it by that food insecurity. That's hunger. You know, but people always associate hunger or homelessness. Here they go hand in hand. But hunger is way more widespread outside of the homeless population. And 40% of the food that gets wasted in this country is in restaurants. You know, so there's a lot of statistics that would definitely bring relevance to the issue that we face. In our paid Mills, what we're trying to do is combat hunger by using technology. Technology has helped shaped our lives, technology is here to stay, you know, and it's
becoming the very tool that is utilized to provide some of the greatest services, you know, said to mankind outside of religion. So paid mills were trying to utilize technology to impact the hunger crisis,
one meal at a time,
you know, and this is called paid me.
Thank you, brother. So anybody want to donate or contribute RAM I like to turn contribute, contribute to paid meals, you can actually you know, cash out bus at dollar sign paint mills. Does that all account is pay [email protected]. I think the Venmo account is the same. And you know, you could just go on my
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Our own initiative to impact hunger, hunger serious, and it's something that I truly believe, you know, anyone and everyone that has the means to give should contribute to some someone out there who can't fend for themselves. God Almighty Allah the critical habitat rewards you preserve you very much for some time sharing your insights, Morgan story salami company articles