The Deen Show – Discussion with Sneako on Dan Bilzerian Hedonism Trump Worship JESUS & The TRINITY
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The conversation covers topics related to Islam, including finding a path for completion and finding a path for wealth. The segment also touches on various topics related to Islam, including finding a path for completion, finding a path for wealth, and finding a path for wealth. The segment ends with a message to stay calm and a call to support the patreon page. The segment also mentions a Frenchman who became upset after winning a prize for a Frenchman. The segment ends with a call to support the patreon page and a message to stay calm.
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So, what do you think about Dan now
who's I want to get your reaction to
So you can have all the women you
can have all the fame He's been this
picture with every celebrity every party a lot.
But I like the Muslims I mean, I
think that they have a pretty peaceful religion.
They get a really bad rap in the
media Jim Carrey said that I wish that
that I wish people could realize all their
dreams and wealth and fame and I Think
there's a lot of attacks on India recently
early morning in Mumbai Indian Muslims are not
like that cleaning up human excreta from the
city streets.
There's idol worship to Trump in India Okay,
his argument was that blue is an attribute
of your shirt just because his shirt is
blue doesn't mean Blue is your shirt something
like that, right?
So there's two problems with that conceptual problems.
The first is you can come up with
any Particular theology, but then how do you
link that theology back to the to Israel
Islam to Jesus?
They can't do that There's no connection between
the Trinity historically and then taking it back
to what?
Israel Islam preached so there's a breakage there.
The second point is they believe God to
be co-equal and co-eternal So the
Father Son and Holy Ghost co-equal co
-eternal.
So are they saying that the existence of
the shirt is co-equal to the color
blue?
Does that make any sense I can't argue
in defense of the Trinity because that doesn't
make sense to me So I don't know
but that was his argument But it just
leaves people in a state of confusion still
You know, it's philosophy you get into all
these philosophical arguments, but I mean when you
say one is one that's it That's it.
They got it.
Allah is one I think with us look
the best way of dealing with These type
of arguments is always just being respectful.
So it doesn't get into a heated argument
Yeah, we're looking at the logical structure of
it.
How does it follow?
I always go back to the historical connection
So if someone says, okay, so this is
what I believe as a person, right?
Okay.
This is my sect or whatever Okay, how
do you connect that to?
You know what Jesus peace be upon him
taught and they can never make that connection
it's always Okay, I'm making this logical argument
for whatever But if you don't show the
linkage then why should we believe in the
first place because we can show that though
he comes from Hussain Salam, can they show
that their conception of Trinity goes back to
Israel Islam historically?
It doesn't do you remember?
Dr. Gerald Dirk's you interviewed him.
So he was a former Methodist right and
he was a deacon and I remember you
interviewed him about Christian trajectories Islamic trajectories in
early Christianity that the early Christian sects actually
had beliefs similar to what we believe About
God being one.
Yes.
So, how do they explain that logically that
the early Christians believed in so he'd not
the Trinity And then you know, it's interesting
where we're here or we're here Han can
tell us even more to deeper history where
you've got the Bosnians here We're Unitarian Christians.
Is that right?
The book of meals linking it back.
Did you know that that here the history
comes that they were also People who only
believed in one God they went away from
you know, many of the teachings of the
church They were considered heretics But when Islam
came like when it came to you God
is one you accepted it You didn't have
to run but you just logically make sense.
One thing I realized about the the online
debates is that even though Off the debate
a you Orthodox will make fun of the
Catholic the Catholic will say Orthodox is heretic
They'll say Unitarians aren't real Christian They said
these people are blaspheming all this stuff when
it comes time to debate a Muslim All
united there to say Christ is King Christ
is King, right even though off the debate
They don't even agree with that.
Even though the Unitarians will say crisis.
What does that mean?
Why don't you say Christ is God?
Why is that the slogan?
What do you mean King?
Why why Jesus why not the father so
these and only though it's not just them
who come together Everyone atheist comes to give
the agonist who do And the Zionist everybody
comes against Islam It's one phenomenon that you
see in speakers corner Once I was having
a debate and see how the brothers having
a debate and I looked the people I'm
debating Was a Zionist there was an atheist
there was a Christian there was a fire
worshiper I don't think in all of you
against Islam.
I said you increase my faith here.
I mean, it's unbelievable all of you against
Islam That's why I argue with each other
and they talk about differences of opinion When
they can't agree on the fundamental concept of
God exactly, but when you've got regardless of
the sects in Islam Yeah, all of them
believe in one God Allah.
They believe in the Prophet Each month that
you get it even in prayer as well.
There's five prayers.
You have to give obligatory charity hajj Pilgrimage,
you know respect the parents like the fundamentals
everyone agrees on I Just want to see
an atheist argue against a Jew I've never
seen that the strongest atheist will never ever
criticize In fact, they have a lot in
common with with the Jew, but they're always
attacking Islam.
Why is that?
Because they believe well This is what we
are speaking about in the car that Islam
Wheels political power as well and influence but
the thing with Christianity other religions is It's
easy like Christianity.
It doesn't it's like we were discussing a
controlled opponent But you can you know speak
to the vicar speak to the Pope's get
them to kind of Change their views and
stuff like that.
It's more difficult with Islam because our traditions
are so well preserved even if for example,
we're discussing a surah here a Chapter of
the Quran if he recites it and makes
a mistake in it Five of us will
be like that's wrong.
Why because the Quran is mass memorized the
language is accessible We have manuscripts dating to
the time of preservation or even at the
time of the Prophet peace be upon him
Even the chains of narration of the Prophet
sayings, they're so meticulously preserved and presented This
is something absolutely unique to Islam And anything
that is the truth it's going to be
hated this that's that's one of the things
that's been set in history That's what is
Even more and more Americans.
I think the last poll I think was
Pew Research.
I'm not sure it was a 50%
of Christians Don't believe Jesus is God 30
% of evangelicals don't believe that.
Can you imagine they did a poll and
they realized 50% of Muslims do not
believe Allah is one Can you imagine there
was nothing was greater than that I don't
think was 50% I think it was
in the like 70 80% I can
remember this study.
What do you mean bro?
Can you can you can you imagine the
the main?
Doctrine and you've got layman coming and saying
I don't I don't believe Jesus is God.
You don't believe Jesus is God My dad
is so deep The issue with Christianity is
they hate the fact that the Trinity, this
is one of them I've got one of
the early early church fathers.
They were a Unitarian guy You know what
he said to them the Trinitarians.
He said how much longer the Mohammedans gonna
mock us for this belief It was basically
saying you idiots stop saying God is free
and one they are laughing at us on
this matter So that's what they cannot fathom
and people like David Wood and then I
don't believe they're Christian.
I believe they're atheists I don't believe they
are and they are so hateful because Islam
has debunked the Trinity with a respectful way
We're not here to insult.
You don't see us ripping the Bible Attacking
churches.
We're just respectfully saying the Trinity doesn't make
sense worship God alone Allah says in the
Quran come to let's come to common terms
between us and you we worship God alone
That's all we're asking you.
I'm not here to fight you.
I'm not here to have a go at
you I'm just saying can we worship God
alone and because they don't like the fact
that it makes sense and So many Christians
come to Islam because if you notice one
of the hate Christian these Polemics who are
absolutely like Islamophobes.
They are angry that we say Jesus is
a Muslim Why do you have a problem
that you know, why because Christians know when
they leave Christianity, they don't leave Jesus They
come and find the real Jesus.
That's what they had that attack with man's
table Why do you lie and say Jesus
is a Muslim?
He was not a Muslim They were repeating
this over again even speakers corner.
Jesus is not a Muslim.
He's not Muslim.
Why does it bother you?
We see in Jesus the Muslim why is
above you because they realize this Millions of
people coming to Islam and what's the one
of the main reason from Christianity because they
don't get rid of they don't leave Jesus
Jesus a big part for them in their
life and they find the real Jesus and
that's what's happening I'm gonna be when I
was when I was Catholic.
I grew up Catholic.
I never prayed to Jesus When I go
at night, I put my hands on the
bed and stuff like this I pray to
God because why because that's what Jesus did
Conversation my Christian friend yesterday.
It's like if you want to follow Jesus
you believe in Jesus Why don't you do
as Jesus did Jesus prayed to the father?
Why don't you skip the middleman?
There you go.
Let's just skip the middle If nobody if
there was no religion bro, and somebody came
and said to you this there's a middle
guy I'll go directly to the source.
That's what you call the fitter That's why
we believe everyone's born a Muslim the fitter
that is to acknowledge that you can go
Have you seen that video of that little
kid little girl?
She goes?
Oh God have you seen it a little
free four-year-old girl?
You know what that means children innocent, right
children are innocent when children say certain things.
Yeah, okay They're innocent and when you see
that child saying hold on a second.
I thought Jesus was good That's the fitter
kicking and saying this doesn't * make sense.
I'm a three-year-old child.
It doesn't make sense to me Because it's
not cool to that.
It's one of the most hated Oh What
you were saying this is something that is
really powerful it's very simple it's logical it
doesn't take a Lot of degrees to figure
out so skip the middleman elaborate on that
Well, I mean when you do business you
want to cut out the middleman as much
as possible You want to go to the
wholesale right now?
We're gonna we're gonna slaughter some sheep or
slaughter some cows cut out the there's no
McDonald's There's no one like delivering it gets
corrupted or when you have better Wi-Fi
You want to just plug it in Ethernet
cable go directly to the source.
That's what Islam is There's no bad connections
directly to the source just you and God
What what are what are some some of
the pushbacks been now recently or just?
About a year and a half What are
some of the top arguments that people throw
at you without even really looking at without
even?
Contemplating and you know the simple beauty is
so many beautiful things about Islam and this
concept We're talking about God being one absolute
one pure monotheism before that What what are
some of the things that you just just
getting fed up with it just right away
criticisms of me reverting?
Yeah, the attacks on Islam None of them
are valid like you think I mean they
say it's a terrorist religion Debunked immediately take
two seconds And if Islam is a terrorist
religion the why is the United States not
a terrorist country All right, they just label
it differently if they're brown to call it
a terrorist if they're white they say it's
you know Manifest destiny When the war was
happening, did you know they the Serbs destroyed
400 over 416 mosques 640 614 mosques and
Comparison to that the Bosnians were protecting churches
Yeah, so now the idea is this if
we have this hostility against the Christians, then
why did we not do the same thing?
614 compared to there was a couple of
cases of a few idiots Before we as
Muslims are taught to hate and attack the
Christians How is it that the Bosnian army
is protecting churches place of worship vice versa?
Destroy a house of worship exactly Christians and
Jews that their crosses their churches the center
synagogues, but we protected so I thought what
happened to us It's a big fat lie
Here's here's one thing.
I find boggling.
Look is that you know in the Bible
you have I'm sure you know this by
now Is that it?
References Jesus peace be upon him who he
loved as a might as a prophet There's
to just Google that people can Google it
Jesus.
How many times is he mentions a prophet
in there?
It's mentioned as a servant.
Oh, he's mentioned more than Muhammad peace be
upon him in the Quran, correct?
Yes Why do you think Christians get upset
when we have so much in common We're
just calling Jesus by what he's even called
in about now.
There's some Implicit verses not expletive verses now
that they use you probably you know He's
like I and the father are one before
Abraham was I am right very ambiguous verses,
right?
But there's clear verses that they get angry
because it's the truth and they have their
ego attached to it Because they have their
identity is so intrinsically tied and they don't
want to admit that they were wrong That's
why that that's the only reason they get
angry about it So I was lucky because
I grew up crap.
I never had a strong strong attachment to
Catholicism So it was easy for me to
make the change You know if you think
about it, they don't actually worship Jesus They
worship their self because Allah says have you
seen the one who takes enough to his
own God?
Which means that you know that Christianity doesn't
make sense But because you don't want to
let go of it, which means it's not
even about Jesus about yourself There's a lot
of Christians that I respected I'm friends with
and I know that they Resonate with Islam,
but they just there are public personas so
intrinsically tied to it that they can't let
it go Everything would change even though like
in time it would it would it would
come back to normal if they They don't
even want to learn about Islam because they
don't want it They almost don't want to
know the truth because there are the public
identity is attached to Christianity.
I interviewed once Times and we were talking
close.
Yeah, and you know, he used to be
the scriptwriter for your boy Tommy Robinson, right?
You know, you know scriptwriter for he wrote
a song not know he was scriptwriter for
what's the louder for Crowder?
Yeah, and he's wrote a theme song for
his boy Tommy Robinson So my point what
I want to say is now from from
from here What happened was?
Owen was like man.
He was somebody who was also good friends
with Joe Rogue, etc.
You got a story goes Yeah, he's a
friend of mine.
Yeah, you know, I'm also okay.
So Owen Benjamin He was like man, I
was programmed to hate Muslims, you know for
so long and he was like Islam a
folk Then he was like he went through
the deep, you know through all of the
programming He said man Muslims when they when
they say Jesus they say something real simple
as peace be upon him Right.
These other guys are saying but we don't
know name But he said they're burnt they
say he's burning in * right in the
feces, you know, they spit on him Yeah,
right.
So then he was like boom He had
an aha moment and then when the Bears,
you know, the Bears Owen has the Bears
those are his like Owen we got your
boy or hot here Yeah, so here's my
what I'm saying is here's what I asked
you it So at the end when his
when we did this program the Christians who
are watching us They also were like man,
we were talking about goats You know, he
lives on a farm on we were just
talking about basic stuff communicating and they were
like I cannot believe for all these years.
I was led to believe Muslims of terrorists
Muslims are this that and the other because
they know okay with all the other things
that the media tell this fake news when
it Comes to Muslims, I'm gonna swallow a
whole right?
So this conversation that we have was just
so good at breaking through a lot of
those barriers Have you seen that happening now
the more you're talking to a lot of
your friends and whatnot when they're seeing really
when they give Shot they look past the
programming and they see the beauty of Islam
that you know, so many things open for
yeah, and where I'm at now is I
can just have to be the best representative
that I can be because The non-muslim
they don't read Quran.
They don't read it either.
They're gonna read the Muslim So I think
that's the actually the best that way you
can give Was talking behind you by the
race sneak hole, but not back by him
So board and I was thinking one thing
that we love about you Is that you
have that zeal that is the father is
that means like Not respect that protective protective
jealousy People are gonna judge it for you
and we see how serious you take the
religion because the process I'm said I came
for nothing But to protect good character and
we know the process I'm also said two
things That's gonna be heavy on the day
of judgment skills is to heat which is
one's good and one's good manners Good etiquette
and good manners is something that The Quraish
the pagan Arabs didn't have because what would
they associate to Allah they say Allah's daughters
are angels are daughters They were going to
associate partners to Allah having good manners starts
with Allah meaning that when one leaves shirk
You have improved your manners and etiquette with
Allah by saying I'd be associate anything any
kind of partners except you You're you're fixing
your manners with God Almighty when you leave
shirk And then the second phase the scholar
say is the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon
him How do you fix your manners with
the Prophet when his name is mentioned you
say it and then after that for example
trying to Obey his Sunnah then after that
the second third form of manners It's the
people at large coming the people around you
and the fourth one is having good manners
with yourself So when it comes to committing
certain sins, you say I shouldn't be doing
this, you know It doesn't so manners are
in four stages.
Sometimes when we talk about manners It's like
old table manners or this manners, but it
starts from top to bottom It's nice to
know that you genuinely have that care for
the demon, okay, I'll represent myself, you know,
even stuff we mentioned about Fuzitube, you know,
you're like it concerned you the fact that
it concerned you it shows you have faith
You know There was a man who came
I think he came to one of the
companions and he said I think I'm a
hypocrite I'm gonna have it I'm not hypocrite
and when I think it's somebody who pretends
to be a Muslim He said the fact
that you think you're a monarchic shows that
you're not a monarchic because a hypocrite doesn't
care But the fact that you have the
concern shows you have faith in your heart,
I want to get your reaction to Demo
you're saying a lot more because this is
I understand the most anti-semitic thing you
could say, you know, Dan Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what do you got for the people
out there?
I mean, that's kind of like hallelujah, right?
God is the greatest that is greater, right?
So what do you think about Dan now?
Who's you know coming around and he's being
Somebody who's being a strong voice for what's
happening.
I just think it's the perfect example that
You know the lifestyle of Dunya it never
is gonna satisfy you so you can have
all the women you can have all the
fame He's been this picture with every celebrity
every party big alcohol brands gambling flashy money
He's like a perfect representation of money fame
America exactly, and then that doesn't satisfy the
soul and so even then the simplicity of
Islam is still reaching out to him because
There's not there's no amount that's gonna ever
satisfy that need You're always gonna want more
women more money more this if you worship
that and so now he's He's looking for
something to serve his higher purpose and I
doesn't care He's like if I lose everything
if they want to disassociate with my business
because I'm not a Zionist and whatever I
already what I need more money for what
do I need more fame for I'm just
gonna say the truth Unequivocally a lot but
I like the Muslims.
I mean, I think that they have a
pretty peaceful religion They get a really bad
rap in the media But I've met a
lot of Muslims and they're you know Pretty
morally sound for the most part.
So you would consider being a Muslim I
don't know enough about the religion.
I Think I'm gonna probably read the Quran
Do you think that's part of your journey
to Islam as well 100% yeah, I
see it similar and again like the way
you were talking about idol worship I think
there's a lot of attacks on India recently
early morning in Mumbai Cleaning up human excreta
from the city streets shit There's shit everywhere
in the middle of the street how India
is like when it's quiet and I'm in
a pretty good area There is shit all
over the streets.
If you've seen people are making fun of
Indians I think it's good to specify that
the Indian Muslims are not like that Like
they're not gonna be in the streets, you
know going to the bathroom They're not gonna
be smelling improper because you're supposed to bathe
five times a day You're supposed to wash
up before you pray You're supposed to show
manners and you're not supposed to be staring
lower your gaze and where all this stuff
Hinduism when they worship 33 million gods and
when they there's idol worship to Trump in
India, you can see They'll pray to anything
That's the quickest way to become disgusting.
So I wouldn't blame you know people criticizing
India on the Indian people itself as an
ethnicity I would just say this is a
problem with paganism about a worship similar to
Dan right about things not being enough Why
do you think some people don't take the
trajectory you do and they carry on for
decades just trying to pursue that hedonistic lifestyle
because you can distract yourself if you want
to but if you're a Truth seeker you're
gonna look for something more and I think
Dan was always been a truth seeker looking
for for what's next But if you want
to you can numb your brain with the
food and with the media with distraction with
celebrity worship You could turn it off as
much as you want to but eventually like
you're gonna become angry and some people don't
know why they're Having that reaction, but it's
because they are searching for something higher It's
a similar thing you tried everything I don't
know if you have you seen his documentary
Same with this, you know when you live
it we've lived it we've seen it That's
why when I came to Islam.
I fully divorced the dunya like I fully
why because You know when someone tells you
this is happiness and you're like, yeah, okay,
and you chase it Okay, I would chase
it.
I would live it.
I saw it I knew people who were
rich who had the most beautiful woman in
front of me crying depressed Well, I look
them and I'm thinking I don't understand I
want to be like you and you're here
depressed on the verge of killing yourself I
don't I didn't it didn't make sense to
me So then you start waking up and
then I had obviously caused people to commit
suicide my cousin hanged themselves My cousin we
had a we had a big suicide rate
in our community why because all they've been
taught is money money money money money what
you own what you wear what you drive
and My cousin his friend killed himself.
My neighbor killed himself And then when you
just look into and think to yourself I'm
a lot like is this the life and
then you go around people I would I
know how I was I was around certain
people and I wanted to be a certain
way and one thing I don't like is
to be fake to be something you're not
and For me to put that persona on
you feel sick Like why am I trying
to pretend something?
I'm not and you look around you.
Everybody is like that Everyone is pretending faking
laughing smiling You're in the club dancing when
the music goes off everyone's outside.
Most of them crying on the floor depressed
drunk and Once you realize and live that
when you see that for yourself, I think
this is why you know I call like
obviously we're reverts.
I call Muslims who go off the path
divert.
Yeah There's reverse and there's divers they divert
off up and they come back But why
because they want to live and we're like
listen brother.
We've been there.
We've been there.
Trust me So to me when I came
to Islam, I went like you said, you
know, you just test it with your one
feet I've done a dive why because I
was so sick of the money and the
fame and I'll be honest even now When
I'm around people who talk about money too
much.
I genuinely have this It's fine and as
Muslims it's good I'm talking about those who
talk about materialism too much I get sick
Well, like I've been so immersed in it,
but you're just sick And once you leave
that I keep I can remember when I
came and joined like Aira while lying I
was so content and happy.
Do you know what I wanted from life?
I Don't care where I work 95.
I do not care as long as I
can do that on the weekends And my
dad will come and call me like that.
Are you gonna become a caveman now?
You know, you're gonna go and and later
on obviously I understood The power of giving
power in different ways because my dad's a
businessman you get it So now if I
have any savings here and there I do
try to invest so my dad's like hold
on a second this guy I was just
gonna go in the mosque and sleep in
the mosque.
But now I do my tower to him
in different ways So yeah, like I'm the
love of a light I'll be honest with
you Once you find that contentment like I
didn't say me I said If you don't
find the Jenna here in your heart, you
will not get into the general over there
Once you have peace in this dunya key
wallahi Nothing they can take everything from you
bro, like genuinely when you have Allah when
you and I hope I reach that it's
far away I hope I'll come to a
point where if everything was taken away from
me and Allah is enough Well, there's nothing
in this life that could ever replace it
and that's why you see reverts You are
so holding tight to that you Like you
know when they come so obsessed okay, we
saw the dark he was in a dark
room There was a little light given to
us and we thought wow And then the
light grew like I'm gonna brother we've been
in a dark room for you get it
But there are people making that dark room
look good and they want to go we
don't wear that brother We've been in that
room, you know and and coming from darkness
from the heart You know, that's what Allah
says.
It's not the eyes that are blind.
It's the it's the hearts, you know, and
in surah Abbas is very interesting because the
process of Salem.
He's giving power to the Quraish Yeah, and
then a blind man comes isn't it?
Interesting the Quraish hearts blind, but the blind
man who's coming to seek guidance.
His eyes are blind Look he's giving power
to the Quraish whose hearts blind They can
see and they don't accept in and Allah
saying to the first of Salem no matter
how much you try They're not and there's
no blame worthy on you.
You're you're tiring yourself But the blind man
who is blind physically his heart is open
He said if you just attended to him
and that teaches me in the Tao which
I implement now If I speak to someone
bro, and he's not listening to my like
I'm giving him simple logic like I don't
waste my time I'm gonna waste my time
with you bro for hours.
There's so many people who are there was
one sister She goes I came to Islam
because of Abdul Rahim Green talking about Istinja
You know what Istinja is?
She goes I found it profound like small
things like that.
You know what that shows There are people
out there that are looking for guidance, bro
Something so small they would use it and
even me if you remember when I came
to Islam One of the reasons was the
scientific miracles and when the scientific miracles kind
of you know that we changed our method
in It I was I was taken a
bit back.
I was But you know what's interesting Allah
sometimes brings people to Islam for the wrong
reasons and they stay for the right reasons
Founders when I era came up with that
narrative that okay, we're not using scientific miracles
You're the first day outside of the organization
to publicly say This I agree with even
though you came to Islam through it Remember
in Queen Mary we had the lecture and
in that you publicly said I agree with
this and we were getting criticized remember But
just on your point about this life not
being enough Zeeshan I was thinking about you
know, you've interviewed some of these drill rappers
that guy with the mask.
What's his name?
One guy called friends of the bastard So
do you feel that what he's saying what
sneakers saying about this life not being enough
like even though these guys have everything Yeah
Friends.
Oh, was it friends of her army?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah these guys.
Do you think they're along the same trajectory
that they they like sneak?
Oh like Eddie they like they've got everything
but they know it's not enough There's a
saying of Jim Carrey, isn't it?
Jim Carrey said that I wish that that
I wished people could realize all their dreams
and wealth and fame and So that they
could see that it's not where you're going
to find your sense of completion People had
all the wealth and all of the material
things to realize that this is not where
happiness lies and Sometimes it's because we don't
have that thing and we're constantly plastered with
that It's made to seem like the objective
but like one of the end episodes of
only fools and horses which is the top
British sitcom and the whole Seasons are to
do with them trying to become rich and
then right at the end He becomes rich
and they're in that apartment and at that
apartment if the camera zooms in and he
goes Yeah, I finally reached it.
But what now?
And that's why you've got the likes of
Tyson Fury Andre Agassi And there's a few
others as well.
I think Israel Adesanya as well.
All of them became depressed when they won
the title Because they made that the objective
and the goal Then when they reached it,
it was like, okay now what I've reached
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