Tahir Wyatt – Covid-19 Loans

Tahir Wyatt

with Imam Karim Abu Zaid

Payroll Protection Halal

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The customer is asking the agent about a program that is offering to businesses to cover up to a certain period of time. The agent explains that the program is different from a flat loan and offers payroll protection. The customer asks if the program is flexible for certain employees and the agent confirms that it is flexible and that it is Insurance dependent.

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			I'm sorry to interrupt you because this this is like a question that is hammering us here. The pee
pee check. You've probably heard about it the program the government is offering to businesses, have
you taken time to look into this program? And
		
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			is it permissible? Or should I explain some of the things because like an organization here, I have
a school here, and I have a thing that I get to see. And so, so, here's, from what I've understood,
that is, there's two different programs, right? There's the one where they give you a seems like
there's a flat loan. And then there's another one where there's payroll protection, right?
protection, right. So on some of these programs, because I, I have not done a deep dive, but I have
asked some we have an accountant that, uh, that deals with some of our issues here domestically. So
I've spoken with the accountant about it, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I
		
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			understand from the accountant is that they will cover the payroll up to a certain period of time.
And as long as you keep those employees on your payroll for a specified period of time, that
whatever loan that they gave, you will be forgiven. Is that is that correct? Yes, it's a grant, it
becomes a grant. So it becomes a grant. So if you believe that you can achieve it, if you understand
at the beginning, you you have to agree to some terms that are
		
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			not favorable. So you would have to agree that if so and so happens that you would repay the loan
with a certain amount of interest? Correct? Right. So so it's sort of like, it's sort of like the
situation where a person gets a credit card, because they need that credit card or hotel stays for
car rentals, or for other things like that, even though they are agreeing, in theory, or in
principle, that if they don't pay it on time, they still want to pay it back with interest. And so
as you know, the defects of the roller man, even as it relates to to the credit cards, is that the
default ruling is that it is impermissible, but for those who need it, and know that they will not
		
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			pay interest. I know, for example, that I'm going to charge on this credit card, no more than $400 a
month, and my salary is 10 times that, or 20 times that or whatever. So I'm not gonna have a problem
paying this back but in the bank, in that scenario, where a person needs to have a credit card
because not having one causes a an abnormal difficulty. Okay, so, as we know, not every ruling is
based on doTERRA it's not based on a necessity where me not having it is going to cause me to lose
my life. But when there is a habit that a need that is very strong to nasm and zita Dora it takes
the ruling of the road. So in this case, I could get one credit card but I can't have 20 credit
		
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			cards, you know, so in this scenario, if it person absolutely needs that payroll protection from the
government, and they believe that they can fulfill the condition such that that loan becomes a
grant, then I would say that in that in that scenario, it would be permissible below Tata items.