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and I want to say to all the brothers and sisters a sequel to this, these lectures,
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for the effort that is put in to equip yourselves on the danger and the beliefs of Shiism
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excuse for them to say that are not knowledgeable on this subject. Also, lots of Islamic conferences
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in South Africa or Africa hamdulillah the series we
received this season with Elena as part of our dollar important is to make people away not so that they do not fall in the dangerous trap of she has a level of tickers of particular children or particular offspring. Now look particularly simple men shall not data
without variances favorable, but what do you say to was the vocal hero you have enlighten us on so many things, even though sometimes you hit on certain things, perversity, molar molar 100 we have enrich ourselves with much more than we could imagine. So my grandmother along over Allah grant in the strings to continue with the good work has been has been doing and still doing a lot protect him wherever he goes, and not looked at a particular family as well and grant him a pile of spring shallow data. So maybe next week, maybe the last that we will talk on the issue of Shiism, from being shallow Tyler, we shall continue we will we will switch over to another topic so that we will
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She says informally, we are
getting to the end of our series of lectures on the topic of Shiism, and coming towards the end.
This is really a topic
that we could have gone on for a long time.
But the idea is not simply to continue lecture after lecture after lecture for the sake of having the lecture.
The purpose of our coming together week after week has been to learn and the purpose behind learning is to convey
and so our own learning and our convenience to others.
We will we hope
to be able to save ourselves,
our families, our friends, our community from falling into what we consider error and deviation from the path of hidayah that was established by syedna Mohammed Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and conveyed to us thereafter by
Generation after generation of Muslims
until it has reached us today.
At a time such as this,
when we need to decide
what to speak on in a final op as the final election
becomes difficult to place your finger on exactly what to say.
I don't think I ever found myself quite tongue tied for the topic.
The material is ample,
But when we, as we float towards the end, it's a matter of wrapping up, how do we wrap up in a way that packages everything for us in a nutshell, that we can take away a take home value kind of thing, where we have been here for 2022 23 how many lectures 22 lectures to wrap all of that up in a package that we can take home with us. And these be the final words, not parting words, hopefully, the next topics are standing ready for us to tackle hereafter. But this particular topic
is steadily going towards this. And I've decided eventually
to speak upon
a number of common misconceptions, a number of common misconceptions, we are not going to go back to the to the theory of karma, we're not going to go back to specific IR and Ahadi for specific events in history, we are going to have a look
at the time of statement or misrepresentation or misunderstanding that you could expect to meet on the street out there.
The details we have covered in the other lectures, and they are available. For now though, in this final of the final lecture, we are going to look at a number maybe 10, maybe 11 General misconceptions that people have when the topic of Shiism comes up
in order for us them to understand those misconceptions and to understand how best to respond to it, to understand where this particular misconception arises from, and then to know how to respond. This, more than anything else lies at the core of our learning experience. It's not simply to know a few ideas and interpretation, not simply to know the names of a few authors, and a few suspect books, and a few suspect quotations. More importantly, it is how to deal with and negotiate with this particular phenomenon. And the argument that you will meet at the level of the street and the level of the man in the seat are going to be the sort of
issues that we are we are dealing with tonight in shallow Donna.
I recently made a list of a number of them. And we will go through them one by one and discuss what lies behind it. Where does it originate from and how then to respond to it. The first of those
in a society that knows only that also known as Jamar. And knows that was in the hallucinogen era, you get different schools of thought, you get different schools of fix more precisely.
Society such as our own, we knew all along. And we have seen around ourselves, you get Sharpies, and you get one of these. And we know that in other parts of the Muslim world, you get mannequins, you have families, this is a difference of opinion, there is a difference of practice, there is a difference of phenomena in the way that people pray in the way that they thought and the way that they do various different things. So we are quite conversant with differences. were quite concerned. And we have learned how to live with and tolerate those differences. For a little bit back into our local kpsc. We find that when the Hanafi madhhab first arrived on the shores of Cape Town, it wasn't
all that rosy was that people call each other by very bad name, but that was part of the that's part of our boss. And that was based upon ignorance. As time went on, eventually became to learn that divergence of opinion, differences of practice, have been part and parcel of our Deen since day one, they will remain to be part of our Deen and therefore, we should learn how to live with them. All that however, has been within the boundary within the parameters of Bahasa nojima.
Now we've encountered the phenomenon, they also play differently, they also have a number of different points of departure. They also have a number of different practices. And
at a time such as this and was a boss such as this, what happens is that it is very easy to confuse and to equate the one with the other
The misconception that arises is as follows. Why do you have a problem with a car? They are only a foot massage along with the other model that you have Sharpies like you have canopies that you have masochism. Hamleys certainly has something called jaffery. This is a must have along with the form of a hip and in support in support of this contention, that what we have is very approximate. They will be quotations as those great Arlene said so, and that great movies. So why did you have a problem specifically?
in responding to this particular misconception,
we need to ask ourselves the first quiz, a number of questions, a number of questions. What is a man?
What qualifies a particular group? Or idea or ideology to be a man?
And thirdly, does this particular group of people, do they really want to be just another hub along with other modalities?
Do they really want to be reduced to the status of some payment hub? So to the first question, what is a man hub? What makes something a math hub? The first question, what makes the thing
is that we in Islam have two major sources of our law. We have the Quran and we have the Sunnah,
all for morality, but the Xiomara subscribe to exactly the same kind of textual authority Kitab Allah was natto Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, if you ask, Where is the Kitab Allah clean to animals you will find a copy of the Quran that is a[???]aba if you ask ways the su nombre de la la la jolla Salaam, it is that which is documented in the books of Huggies, which are the books of Hadith equally Sahih Bukhari and Muslim and Sonam Abbe de odinson and cameleon sunon imagine Sonam Amida wood and a host of other books, these collectively form the reserve they are the preserved form of this analysis has been preserved in these particular sources. So, if we subscribe to exactly the
same sources, why is it that we have differences of opinion, because in the interpretation of these various same sources, different methodologies are adopted difference of opinion is out of them, but they all fall within the ambit of the same plan and the same.
These kinds of differences have been around since the earliest days of Islam or for Javier lo han who differed on interpretation here and there, yet it did not lead to war among them, it did not lead to strife among them, there was tolerance of mutual opinion opinion amongst them.
What makes you a man have them subscribing to the same sources, but perhaps having a particular approach in,
in analyzing in understanding and extrapolate extracting law from it
is these are the hallmarks of a model, as I put it, now that there is a particular methodology applied to the various same sources, let's now take this particular definition and apply it to this year
assessment hub, if they are a footman hub along with the other Masai, then they will have to be leaving the same port along with us. And secondly, they will have to subscribe to the same song as well. Oh, the only difference that they should be is that their approach and methodology should be somewhat different from ours. Besides that, nothing else. Oh, there was one important aspect that I left out of my discussion of what some of the same sources, different methodology and the methodology of each malherbe is, it originates with a founder of that particular amount of the origins of that founder. And that's how the how do we look at the personality of that founder, he is
not a newbie. He is not infallible. He is a human bliss that a lot of that was deep knowledge, on account of which he is able to delve into the sources and extract law from it. However, at times, he can be wrong as well.
That goes without saying to us, no Imam is right all of the time, called Domenicali, he was in
everyone's word, sometimes they accept it. Sometimes we set it aside as well. Except for our beloved homies on the llamada USA number. He is the only one who's worried about questions. That's why we don't ask any questions. But if the amount of the month have which happen to follow, say something then I'm not bound to stick to it religiously, in every aspect of my life, as I am bound to stick to what I want to do. And then as we slide that Imam of a man hub, he makes things easy for me facilitates for me how to practice my Deen but his is not his words do not form a jail to me, which is
restrict me to only finding what he says and what no one else is. Now we take that and we come to the car. Let's look at the first point. Do you subscribe to the same Koran?
In theory? Yes. In practice, there are a whole lot of question marks around that. Because, as we have seen before, the authenticity of the Quran has been questioned by not one, but hundreds of CA scholars over the years, hundreds of years scholars, this topic of the history of the Quran, of the allegation that the Quran has been changed, distorted, interpolated, this is a topic two which I will return afterwards. The The main reason underlying this claim is that the Koran as it stands today, contains no basis for the theory of democracy I believe in it. Therefore, the claim has to be made that the Quran has been changed. So where in theory, the CRC well we also draw our
comm of how to make Salam Salam and how to buy and sell and how to
marry and divorce we also take it from the same for on will except that but we will say just remember that hundreds if not 1000s of your Allah has subscribed to a theory that says a proton has been changed.
Leave that for a moment we're gonna come back to that point. When it comes to the sooner
the sooner Allah knows and then we said our son, the son of us Rasul Allah says Allah means for us that which is found in these books of Hadith, which I have enumerated earlier, to the car deck. This is where we in the car woke apart from one another, they say event form of this owner who has who are the ones who have transmitted this sort of loss on the lawn. So it's a hobby along with the harbor, it will be
it will be anisimov and the entire list of how to be alone on the first question on the reliability and integrity of the tsunami from the car side will be the fact that who are the transmitters of it.
Why because the Shia has said that when Rasulullah sallallahu taala passed away, the vast majority of the Sahaba became more immediately
in the Sahaba of the olana became more than immediately took the amount of tension, what remains to be said for a version of the Sunnah transmitted by them the entire thrust of the imama theory which says there has to be an infallible Imam after
the first property. So that that Eman can transmit this and preserve and become the conduit and transmit of the Sunnah in such a way that there is no possibility of error, no possibility of mistake whatsoever. So this is where we depart from one another. We have a son, they have another form of dishonor. Our son is in the form of a hottie. Their son is in the form of infallible imams who also then translate a hadith to the students. Therefore, the collections that the she I have of the Sunnah are different from ours. Already, a major red line of division has been drawn between the former head of the Asana and the Shia.
It's not the same as the former head. It's different in this particular respect. Then, looking at the character
and the nature of the man to whom that must have been described. We find Hanafi madhhab Carpe Diem Abu hanifah Rahmatullah early America Latin America Nana Shafi mother Mohammad Shafi Ahmed Mohammed, the progenitor of a humble email hub, and each one of these men can be seen to be a major scholar, a great Philippine jurist, a muhaddith, a master of every science but not infallible. Therefore, what in every moment Have you all find that there have been instances where the later
scholars have a mother who say that the mother of my mom has stated this, but I disagree with it. Why? Because the evidence leads me in a different direction. So evidence leads me in a different direction. This in itself, this phenomenon of deferring was the email from the mother which happened to be following since childhood. This in itself shows that the position of an Imam is that of an expert, but not infallible, not in an infallible founder or infallible. So in these two respects these two amounts of data from these two groups, the four mothers
and the supposedly jaffery mahabhava, they cannot be put on the same level. Why because the man have the Japanese origin is supposed to be infallible. These mother hypoallergenic was human. These mother have interpreted the tsunami masala salatu salam from these sources, that that even the mother has its own particular guide of the sadhana. They can be no equation between the two. The only equation the only area in which there is a commonality is that this is also a school of thought with its own methodology that was a school of thought or his own methodology.
For that matter, we can go beyond it and say the math is also school or follow the old methodology. The baja is an other all of these that stemmed out of the same particular tradition. They a lot of offense is taken when we draw the analogy between the CIA and US Marines. Why? Because in our community, everyone knows armor is off limits. Everyone knows that. But in terms of the sheer it's of a different fact of the matter is fact of the matter is that the Saudis have elevated one men to the level of prophethood. This year, I've elevated 12 men to above the level of prophethood. Everyone takes offense, how can we say that the car got muddy? muddy, they've only done that a
little bit? They only said that Mira De La MaMa qadiani, isn't it? Some of them? Don't even say that much.
But does she have taken 12 men and raise it above the level of musar? Isa? No.
Anyway, so the idea of a system of health to be said to us then why do you say so? When Miuccia
Prada Tang said this, he said the sciama hub is also a must have along with the other modality. And the other one just before this one now, Chef palmata Tonto, he also said that the man hub of the CIA is another hub along with the other mother hub, with all due respect to those particular figures. As far as motion is concerned, he is close to students, and said that the description of that particular fatwa to him is not correct. He never said anything of the time. That was for fear Skyping afterwards, who are those closest students? Are these the ones who collected his work together, and will publish this fatawa they were two of his closest one was the one who visited very
And he's very, very close associate delassalle they made it very clear that no way in a bookstore
was at first I ever found others who said No, he didn't say so. Well, we also know GMR, do not believe in infallible leaders.
But it can be very harmful. So at times, they can be wrong. So if he did say So then how do we receive it as an Imam who cannot be wrong? No. That claim will need to be inspected, it's open to peer review. We are not like the sea. I will say that once the great Ayatollah the great demand has spoken, no one else has the right to speak. No. As long as you belong to the fraternity of the llama, you are entitled to a review of a particular fatwa that doesn't form Sharia. to us. It's an opinion, the nature of it says something similar. Look at the present one. Now, once Egypt started having problems with she isn't sitting in this country, there was a time when Egypt didn't have a
problem when she isn't was a theoretical man as far away. And that time to say that they just don't have along with the other modality, that's well and good. But when she was reading in your backyard, when you start taking the steps of the Egyptian government, and the.on a star and starting to take now to outlaw this thing, because it has started to breed within their own backyards. So these fatawa changed as the Windows as the wind flows this way, then the car just the fourth or fifth month along with the other four. And when that means are going the other way, then certain other steps are being taken. So as much as we respect the personalities involved, but we do not elevate
them to the status of alumni upon us about what he says. And we simply take what he says without any question.
The other question which remains to be asked here is do the Shia really want to be anonymous?
Do they want to be anonymous? Simply on power? The ultimate aim is at all what they really want? Or is there a convenient bridge to achieving the purpose of what in society such as ours? The army I believe will lie we're not in what we see around ourselves. Today, we have to go a little bit back in history. Once we look at history, we will understand how this particular thing, the idea that the car just the first month along with the other model has been treated with the CIA by the CIA in the past. If we know they did it in the past, we might come to discover where they stand on it today. In the 18th century, the safavid empire that intention established Iran as a CR land as a Shia country
was in which the official malherbe is a sheer amount
that suffer with Empire after two and a half centuries. It tumbled it crumbled, and it fell.
Iran was invaded by the Avalon and the safavid Empire fell.
A general came forward that eventually managed to rally the Iranian forces and become the Sovereign of the country himself. He was Nadia Shah in the 1700s Nadia Shah came forward and he reestablish the sovereignty of Iran in respect of his two neighbors. To the east. There was a Mongol Empire in India to the west there was a Waterman empire in Turkey and it's
the country's subject to the Ottoman Empire. So Nadia Shaw once again established she'll establish the she is
In the Iranian state, but he came to realize something for as long as Iran remains, he comes in this took up two places about 200 years before him. As long as it remains he in a country, there will always be this area of instability between itself and its Sunni neighbors.
Because for 200 years, and Asana has been exterminated in Iran and forcibly converted, the old ama has been exterminated in exile, and the population has been forcibly converted. So it's natural to expect that the neighbors next door will be looking at Iran, in a way not very peacefully, they will be looking at Iran and say, there's something very, very wrong with this country here. We need to keep our eyes peeled.
Nadia Shah realizes the essential cause of instability with his neighbors, is the way she is in his practice in Iran.
What does that mean? The cursing of the harbor of the Alon year after year opening, the continued operation on the listener that live in a country, obviously as the best way to cause a problem with neighbors, so he calls a conference in the town of Niger in Iraq. He calls the conference of the home of the xiana Halima Anderson. He was
a very, very stern tyrannical ruler.
He already knew what he wanted from this conference. So the whole ama, the CLM, especially participated in this conference. It was made very, very clear to them, what we want is this particular result. We want peace with our neighbors, so capitulating everything given on every point.
So the whole ama got together. This was a question that she has, we'll say, well, we, we admit, that's fine. You want that as well. You want us to stop cursing the Sahaba we'll stop cursing. You want us to do that we will do whatever you want. Because the sword on this futon is hanging over the neck.
And then Nadia Shah wrote a letter after this conference was concluded he wrote a letter to the Ottoman Empire, the diamond said that we've done whatever you asked us. We've done whatever you've asked us, are you prepared now to accept us as a man.
And for the first time in history, the word jaffery method was used in the 1700s with Nadia Shah,
the Ottoman Empire took one look at that. They say we have also a number of things. He said, we want to other things, we want to accept that we want you to accept us as assessment. And such we want you now around the Kaaba covers four sides. And each of those four sides there was a mark on the McCombe used to be where the Imam center needs to fall on the side where the Makai Brahimi. That's where the Sharpie,
the Sharpie is leading to the stands on that side. And on the other table, 700 female and amalickiah mom family man each one at the side. So this will be called the macom halophila mcconchie.
He said, we also want a mahkamah karma. Since we are safe mother, we want him a comment the karma as well. And every year you appoint an evil Hodge one person that will be there. So to say the leader of the entire Hodge, we want also an opportunity to appoint a new house. So one year, a person from every month have and the first year one of us
Ottoman Empire took a look at this letter. And they said that we are very, very happy with all these reforms that has taken place in Iran in the Iranians are no longer curse in the harbor of the low angle. If they no longer speaking ill of them is no longer pressing the Sunni minorities. We are very happy with that. But that's how far it will go. Beyond that no Mocambo, the Kaaba and no opportunities, the Hajj.
A few years later, Nadia Shah was assassinated.
He was assassinated by his own generals and the Shia Lama. After they assassinated him. They explained the reason why they assassinated him that they Nabeel Shah had abandoned Shiism.
From what I told you this before with Nadia Shah did not abandon Shiism. All that he said is that all those unnatural outgrowth of Shiism, cursing of the sahaabah oppressing others only saying the Koran is, has been changed all of those Muslims. For this, she has will continue playing with the arms hanging by the side, they will continue like this with us upon a little stone in front of them, they will continue wiping over the feeding instead of washing their teeth, because that's just another mob to the Shias. This was the abandonment of theism, because he is reduced to simply a set of practices in which he
is not Shiism any longer. It is an empty shell that has been deprived of his soul. What is the soul of the soul is a complex of love and hate that excessive love for the unknown, and
over excessive hatred of the Sahaba of the low unknown. Without that there is no ceiling.
So she ism is not just the first man hub in the car come to us today and say that we want to just be Why do you bash the car? Why do you speak for 22 weeks
In the role of the Shia,
aren't they just when are you going to have a Maliki bashing session then? Why is it only a Java lesson series? Because there's no similarity between Maliki's and Japanese. The Japanese don't have a system of belief that forms the foundation of the
when a sharpie plays with his hands folded, and a Maliki plays with his hands by side, it's a methodological difference. The Maliki is look at the practice of the people of Medina. And they say, Well, this is how people used to play Medina. So we give preference to this, but we say you can hold your hands as well. When a sharpie plays with his hair folded. He says this is what comes in handy in the textual source, as opposed to the practice of the people of Medina, we give preference to this. But if you play with your hands by the side, there's no harm whatsoever. It's not one of our carnivora. But when I'm when I see Java EE plays what is asked by the side and it looks at the Sunni
playing what is unfolding in front of him. This is how the Sahaba of the Aloha No, this is how the Sahaba corrupted the dino Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam everyone is supposed to have played with and by the side, but then came along someone called Abu Bakr and Omar or of man, whoever else it might be. And they say these are the people who left no stone unturned to call up the Dean of Bahama Salallahu alaihe salam what claim or what water does the claim hold that the jaffery malherbe is nearly a first month along with the other body. This claim once upon a time was made in the 1700s. This claim is repeated today. When it was made in the 1700s. The person responsible for the claim
was assassinated and held responsible for abandoning Shiism. How do we evaluate the same claim being made in the 20th and 21st century? Is it nearly a stratagem? Or is it true as a car really abandoned all that all the other contents of Shiism, the love hate relationship, the wala Bara a complex abandonment and have the reduced a deal only to a set of practices. That hasn't happened. That hasn't happened in the least all of those other things are very alive and kicking around in them very alive and kicking. So when they come forward and say we just want to be another malherbe we asked him the question, Are you prepared to admit that even Jaffa sodic could be as long as Imam
Shafi can sometimes be? Are you prepared to admit that Imam Abu hanifa is an is an infallible person is a fallible person in Java. Similarly, these are fallible person whose views we can sometimes abandon because better evidence comes from from elsewhere, that they won't be prepared to do, in fact, they might be prepared to do so. They might tell you yes. But that is the other use. It's not those cases that are yours. You know, whichever one, the one we discuss about five, seven weeks ago, whatever it might be, the other kind of use, that is which is founded upon
the subpoena which says that the end justifies the means. The means is now to speak alive, that is the holy line is that holy life, of which it is said that nine tenths of deenis holy lies. The End eventually is to convert as many people to the mouth of the CIA as possible. So what if we tell a few white lies in the process? In fact, in a Chroma Kumar in the La Jolla taco, the more you tell those lies, the closer you get to unload on the higher standings with a low dollar. So we need to understand that that was the first issue. People will say Pokemon have this is how we respond to it. Second issue,
Toby said that, why do you generalize and speak about the car, not all she had to say that she has like this, and again, she has like that, that is very, very true.
We take cognizance of that, we know that better than anyone else.
Because we do not think she is simply from the eight o'clock news. And we only take you simply from the statements of this one and that one anytime somebody can help you. When we when we discuss here. It will be on the basis of solid scholarship, solid research. From the solid research we learn that the Shia have never been one single house. It has always been a case of Dr. Boone Jamie and wakulla boom Shaka, you think that we are together, they're not together? There have been a lot of sectarian divisions within Shiism. Many of the sects within Judaism have died out.
But a number of major ones still persist and they exist up to the present day. We are, we are 100% with you that not all she are the same. But when you look at the sheer in the world around us today, it's very difficult to divide them into different groups. How many groups are the 80 to 90% of the Shia that we find in the world around us
come from the same group that is not a Sharia, the twelvers those that believe in lb one. Those are the only gr that we've been discussing for 2223 lectures so far. So
Only Shia, we haven't even looked at this ad in Yemen, we haven't even looked at the other harneys. We haven't even looked at the bahara. We haven't looked at any of the other sects of the Shia, we've only looked at this one because this particular route is 90%. So for the, for this 90%, to enjoy the camouflage of, you know, not all of them are the same, this 90% definitely all the same. All the other ones, we don't know them, we don't see them around us. They don't come into our countries and knock on our doors and say the literature there's only one group and that is the 80 90% group, the majority of them, whatever we have said applies to this particular group, it applies to them because
it comes from the literature, what less each of these written by the most reliable alama not taken from the seat not taken from secondhand third hand sources. And by word of mouth, it is from the original and most authentic and most reliable literature of the car. That whatever has been said here has been wrong. So not OCR the same it is true but absolutely irrelevant for our situation. Absolutely irrelevant. Because we have no ladies amongst us, we have no other homies amongst us, we have no rules amongst us, we have no boss amongst us. When we speak of the word of when we use the word Shia, we use it to refer to the majority group, that is the group which believes an Imam, that
is the group which believes in 12 imams who are infallible and are higher than the prophets, that is a particular group in among this whole idea that the Quran has been interpolated, has been going around for some for some centuries. Now, that is the same group that have virtually curse to harbor the lower home as part and parcel of the been for centuries. So it is true that there are differences but those differences absolutely irrelevant as far as our situation is concerned. Now, having identified that this particular group is a car that we speak about. The next misconception comes about. The next misconception comes about where do you refer to their offices? Where do you
Where do you get your facts from? I say from the most valuable books of this year, from the most reliable books from the most reliable authors. The next misconception says yes, but everything in the book is not necessarily what the people out there believe. Everything is certainly in the book doesn't necessarily say that most particular person who converted to cm believes in that.
In that case,
we should learn to ask the question
if I don't learn
from Valhalla Park has converted to see ism does not believe in alibaug is a fictitious person. If our beloved vanilla Park has converted to see isms. Why did he do so?
Whatever the reasons might be. Now, Abdullah became a CEO six months ago.
And I to take my impressions of Shiism from Abdullah became a CEO six months ago, or formula back in Madras he was the highest rank Rd mostafavi. Time was booked in about 110 volume is regarded as one of the most reliable sources of Shiism, who is a bit of our currency ism, do we take our parkinsonism from every man in the street? When we ask about the What do the under tsunamis when they go to the books of Allah sadhana, they don't want to go to Abdullah cousin who comes from Hannover, pakusa, soon as in auto Sudanese ladies, but when it comes to the car, they want us to go to individual persons and say, this person knows she has a better, I'm sorry, but I think Abdullah
case is more a case of ignorance, he doesn't really know what he is into. So he cannot be a reliable source.
When he says Furthermore, that everything in the book, I cannot be held responsible for whatever is in the book, in the book, right that the Quran has been interpolated? Well, I'm Abdullah from vanilla pocket, I don't believe in it.
But we have another question.
What makes up your mind for you? What tells you what to believe in what not to believe? Are you the person who does it? Or are the higher authorities was in your job for him? And he or she is qualified to do it for you? When you took your initial view step, was it on the basis of your own scholarship? Or were you being guided by some other literature? When the thing turns against you? Now you say, Well, I don't necessarily agree with it. So you agree with it when it is in your favor? And when these disadvantages to you then you don't agree with it? This reminds me somewhat of the hood. They used to do the same thing. If what is in the Torah agrees with them in the whole country
very firmly. And when when the Torah says, Don't take Riba then they say, well, we can't take Riba from fellow Jews, but we can take it from your Gentiles by all means, we'll take it from you. So when he turns against me to speak along with our see our friends, this is the problem. Many of them many of these late converts to see as they don't really know what's in those books. Very obviously, for very obvious reasons. They don't have access, neither do they know the language nor have they gone to that level of studies. They will be introduced at a very, very big
level, when it is said to them, however, that they are some of your older man, let's just use one example, some of your allama who say that the Quran has been changed. And they say that on the basis of not one but 2000, a Hadith, what in your books, then it is said, Well, those who never made a mistake, they are not right. They were basing themselves upon unreliable boats, we don't believe any they might have believed in it.
Who is a better critic of those hobbies? The man in the street or those particular scholars? Furthermore, that's not the point. The point is, when anyone behaves suddenly OBE series when it causes a certain line, then it takes him out of the form of Islam. If the bulk of Shia scholarship in the past have been crossing that line has been saying that the Quran has been changed, have been making claims of this nature, we find that the Shia prepare to say they've made a mistake. They are incorrect. No First, the first step will be to say that it's not really true. They didn't say so when you pull out the books and so here is the quotation with this particular Arlington so they say
well, he might have said so but you know, he's not always it could well be home. If he's wrong on that particular point, and working together with him hundreds of other Shia Lama around to how long are they? Are you prepared to say that they so long that they actually left the fall of Islam? This is where they want. This is where they won't budge. Ali even Ibrahim alchemy is the teacher of Mohammed even Jaco and Kalani. Hamas even Jacobo Kalani is the Buhari of Russia, he is the author of the biggest, most important Hadees source of the Shia alkazi. Now, a fair percentage, some 30% by my own counting some 60% of the Hadith in uncopyable, 16,000, a hadith in there, I went to all those
volumes, and pick them out. The amount of hobbies like buy collini from alibaba.com is this
is the source of about 30% of the hobbies in coffee. This
is an open brace can deliver an upholder of a theory that the Quran has been changed as harbor changes theory, this theory, this belief takes you out of the hole of Islam, are you prepared to say that one third of the material coffee in account with this person has been transmitted via a coffee not just to make a mistake, this person is not simply saying that wipe your head once instead of three times. This was not simply saying makes you on the ground directly on the stone. It's not something like this. This person is undermining the foundation of a love book. This person is undermining the foundation of the fountainhead of EDA, he thinks that the poor are has been changed
a lot earlier this year predictable and someone says that well Allah Allah did not manage to protect the plan. The plan has been changed that takes you out of all of Islam.
So are they prepared to say that not only will our own Mr. Wrong, but many of them will perform as well. This is where they will stop short. So when we say when we say to them this in your book, they say well Don't believe everything that you find in the book. How do you then decide what you accept and what you don't accept? It works as a convenience store. It works like a convenience store, you walk in, take what you want, leave what you don't want, and walk out. I've had the said to me buy a car.
In public in a public debate recorded as well. He says the difference between usefulness and Ashiya. Is this.
By you once a hadith is authentic, you are bound to accept it. What are Shia, the Hadees? Can we don't have to accept any Hadith? He comes to me it conforms to me. I accept it when it doesn't conform to me. I reject it. There's no objective standards. So tomorrow we come to you with it. But look at this hurried in your book. This is so what so what I don't believe in it. He is not held to any kind of authority. So you can't pin him down to races he believes in it tomorrow. He says he doesn't believe any of this. When you find a phenomenon such as this with a group of people known to uphold the key so strenuously, it does give us reason to doubt the honest intentions of our people
on the other side, when they say they don't believe in it. Is it for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons. Time will reveal that we however, prefer to keep
perhaps an open mind, but with a fair measure of suspicion. There will be someone amongst us who will say that no, you're not going to fool me. I know that you're making something. Yeah. That's one approach. The other approach is that it's possible this person is making up the possibility is not making sufficient. We need a follow up to decide but we keep him at bay. We keep him out. We do not let him into Omaha about we do not let him go on to our members because that is our abana that is our class. It is from there that our Akita will be spread. It is on there that our pita will be safeguarded. So those particular baskets in society will remain protected from people, honestly
rentals. We happen to have a few reservations
Those are three misconceptions that we've looked at thus far, we briefly look at the use of assessment hubs we've looked at when people say in different areas, you get different ones, but not this particular group. They're all the same. We looked at those who say that Don't believe everything you find in the book, I think we are in a position to say, what we will consider what we won't consider, it's better that we decide what is to be considered, then them because with them,
it's never the same color, the wind blows a different direction every day, we come to the next issue, and this issue has been raised time and again, probably one of the new ways in many of our modality as well. The issue of unity is not a time it is said, It's not time today, for us to delve into differences. That is very true.
We would not go into things that divide us.
In fact, for 20 years, 30 years, we did not go into things that divide us. But the result of that has been what
the result of it has been that while we were saying that for the sake of unity, for the sake of forming a united front against the enemies that confirmed that we will desist from talking on these topics. In the meantime, what has happened, the car have been growing and growing in number they haven't put on the purple on the back. So then the spelling of the math hub was more important than maintaining unity in any particular community. Had it really been the case that the sheer fear that the Unity this precarious unity of Azuma will be destroyed, they would have been the first ones to say that, look, we are not going to encroach, we aren't going to come into utility unit, eventually,
we dementia, and let's face our enemies together, that is not the case. If that was the case, we wouldn't be sitting here today. Why are we Why has these this series of lectures been initiated? Because the phenomenon that exists outside there, and these are not outsiders who have come? These are our own children, these are mean obligee Latina people from us, we have converted to the other side. Why have they done so because someone has been converting them, someone who takes a lot of pride in the fact that we have changed the face of Capetown foundation says we have changed the way that people look at this, then the problem we have changed the face of the Islamic division in this
part of the world and they are very much bent on continuing that particular change
from the side of the reactionary, when something has happened and we respond to it is very easy to say that looks these people are three actuaries. And there will be actually has a very pejorative negatively with the other was responding to a situation. But we have to respond to this particular situation is taking this long, but we have to respond to it for the reasons which we outlined right at the beginning. And those reasons are, if this fitna is not contained, it will lead to exactly the kind of scenario that destroys the unity of the Muslim ummah. Look at I'm repeating myself now but look at every country, we as soon as he left side by side, and you will find strife and you will
find this unity and you will find violence. We don't look on this community to vote on the same road. It's exactly for the sake of unity that we are here.
Again, we look at history.
When the great
trials, tribulations phase that was in oma
at the time when they needed unity. What did the oma do in the past what was done? Let's go back to the time of leave Navy volleyball the lawn mowing the lawn.
For five years, four to five years, there was continuous warfare, and between Muslim against Muslim eventually came the realization that what's more important than who is the ruler.
What's more important than which personality sits on the throne is that the oma must be united against his enemies. If we destroy one another, if we destroy one another, the Romans in the Persian war somebody wake up again and take back from us what has been lost by them? In whose mind was this?
Did this realization come in the mind of that particular grandson of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam, that infallible Imam of the Shia, about domodossola. Some of them said in Lebanon he had the urine as a lover or use the hobby benefit as a
means for either male Hassan Ali Vitali Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam said this child of mine is a leader of men. At least there's a lot of loathing about unity. How did that happen?
How did that happen? It wasn't happening. It was a pesticide. You become the honey fireworks and down. That's how it was achieved. By the better man giving up his position. You become the leader. I also doubt
this is if the CEO should take a lesson. They should take a lesson from here. We asked him who which of the two would you want to emulate? Would you want to be like muawiya wouldn't happen.
Unfortunately, as much as I hate Malia, they're all trying to be more oriented. We want to be in charge. We want to stay out
Number. The lesson for them is be like, be like Hassan and say that I am prepared to be 10% of the Muslim world, I will sit down and let's work together. That's not happening. This year, I am seeing more and more like wow, we are, in fact sometimes like as either as well. And the legacy of the great the moms and the great grandsons have lost a lot as a lump is trampled upon by them, because it's simply not enough for them to say that we take the step of husband even early it will mean that acceptance of defeat to them what defeat
acknowledgement of the fact that we are very small minority and perhaps we should remain a small minority that may not be fatal to
take another step in this neighborhood along
with the Muslim world, was facing the scourge of the Tatas were two great three great attacks on the Muslim world. The thought is the Bongo game, the Crusaders game and the colonialist came afterwards. So when the doctor came, and Muslims at the show a united front to the data, the story that you might have heard before, was it the CIA were complicit with the Tatas in the fall of Baghdad. To them it was more important that shouldn't be power must be broken, because upon the ruins of a Sunni Empire, they will these are
Empire it did not happen.
And then when the Crusaders came sapodilla up Rahim Allah
and before him.
So neurobion sangli both these great leaders, great heroes of Islam, realize one thing, the reason why a crusader army could march into the lens of Islam,
suicide the armies
of the Muslims and marched into alpha and slaughter under 1000 people and raise a cause onto Mozilla
onto the football soccer Ah, the reason why they could do it there's only one reason because Muslim ranks with this united Muslims world together. What would happen to brothers, the one governor said the eight other governors the TV, they had a long standing 20 years before the Crusaders came. So the ones Oh, there's a new power around new kid on the block. So I'm gonna be training my brother to him he can destroy my brother. Because this brother man has been coming over so many years. They found it so easy to put one against the other why the Muslims did the homework for them. So far my god neuro DNS and DNS on top of the the UB realize that there's only one way, there's only one way
to achieve success. And that is when we unify our lines against them. Because I'm not gonna say platonism
you will fail, you won't be able to go forward. A lot of help will be taken away from you want to lose our back, bring that unity back again. Now at that time,
there was a budget Empire in the heart of the world of Islam, with its various subsidiary kingdoms around them. And there was another rival empire in Egypt at the time, that was the Fatima's Empire. They call themselves the 40 minute, by the way, smart, etc. They weren't the same as our Shia friends is nurseries. They were a different branch, but they were a political force to be reckoned with at the time.
While Salahuddin and neurobion, were fighting the Crusader, they got news of what they got news of the fact that from Egypt price, the saltiness seemed to be aligning with the Crusaders.
Before the Alliance could be cemented. nurudeen same philosophy was a young gentleman at the time, under the command of his uncle Chico, you sent him to Egypt, before anything happens in Egypt before the Egyptian front is lost. Go and capture Egypt and bring it make it part of our
Deen together with his uncle Chico marched to Egypt with an army his uncle died, he became in charge of the army, Salahuddin realize is only one way of creating the unity, the philosophy the Empire has to be removed. We can't have two rival kingdoms. We can't have two rival empires. There's only one way to Unity we can't have two leaders. The moment we're gonna have two leaders, this one is going to speak this way. The other one can see exactly the amount will never come right and what was done the last stop in his role and how it was allowed to die in peace. And then also no successor was installed. Salahuddin was installed as the ruler of Egypt. And only in that way by removing the car
from the scene was put then eventually recaptured. That's how unity will come about 10% of the Muslim world will not be able to read the other 90% it is the 90% that will yesterday the 10%. I have actually seen last week that Ilan, the image that the arm has on account of what some clear account of geo political coincidences that has been happening since the 1800s. Iran has been catapulted onto center stage. That in itself is one of the biggest divisor factors within the Muslim
Iran would be happy enough to say that look, we'll follow someone else lead. They wouldn't be a problem. But Iran doesn't want that. Iran wants to be at the forefront. Iran wants to be the leader, because we have seen what Iran does when it becomes a leader. The Iranian embassies are not just Iranian embassies, the Iranian Ambassador comes through
the massage. No sooner I walk into ecosa, many years ago, walks into ecosa. He's an ambassador. What would an investor speak about the political face tell you what is diplomacy for the car, he launched into a half an hour, three quarter hour diatribe against How bad was Abu Dhabi alone. That is the Iranian ambassador. That is the Iranian embassy doubles up as a
as a missionary center. Has he among realized the need for unity. It doesn't seem that they have realized they want the unity, they very much want that unity, but on their terms, and with them at the head of it that will remain a dividing factor among
them after we move on to a number of other points. We've looked at the performance issue, we've looked at the fact that not all she are the same, which is true.
Don't believe everything that you find in the books of this era is true as well. But all of these truths are
sometimes irrelevant and sometimes misrepresented unity, we are the biggest causes for unity. But that Unity has to be an anyone can tell you that if you have 90 people standing on one side and 10 people the other side, it is very clear that we should that unity emanate from
point number five point number six when we go to the Koran now remember what are we speaking of misconceptions are the level of the seat. A person in the seat will say how can you say things about the car? They also have?
They also have arguments from the Quran. It is true, but they are not the only one. Everyone can have an argument from the Quran. What does it mean bodies Muhammad was the one that the cardiologists have been using for ages now already is our Navy, his name is also in the Quran and he's using this and
you can go beyond it. The Christians also have arguments from the Quran is Allah Allah says in national we and we mean, not singular, plural and the least hooligan finding out of the history this award must be seen. Anyone can go into the Koran and get an argument. What when is an argument taken from the Quran correct and valid if it follows the proper steps and procedures, if we follow the proper methodology, all these arguments that the she has brought us from the Quran, we have spent hours in demonstrating why that argument is number one, and authentic.
And why in light of the rest of the Quran, it does not harmonize. There will be either their use, but simple things if you ask them.
Why did a lot other than stop short for mentioning the names of young moms in the forum? If it is true, that the amount is as high as you say better than the IMA or other better than the MBR? Why is Musan isn't everyone else's name mentioned and none of your demands?
I don't know what answer they will come up with but remember who made his answer? Who made his answer was that Allah decided not to mention it because if he did mention it, this habit would take it out.
is Allah not even able to keep the Sahaba thing is also an old forum. He says in nationals liquor wine, Allahu Allahu Allah put on multiple volumes for not Osmonds for an Allah reserved for me in a way that everyone else. While Mahal is the one who agrees with Islam and the one who doesn't agree with it, all of them had to admit and acknowledge the fact that no other scripture in the history of mankind has been preserved with a degree of precision that the Quran Allah only gets up has been preserved.
So, therefore, and does not present any kind of basis for this year, they will listen to certain ayah, if any suddenly falls for it is an account of his ignorance, if he is ignorant, and he feels that he is prepared to face it a lot on ESPN on the basis of his ignorance, that there's nothing that you and I can do, but it is honestly a search for truth, then he will at least compare notes from both sides, if he is given an ayah out of context. And he believes in it as such, he should be able to have a source of reference on the other side, come to the sunny side and ask what is the real interpretation according to that notion. That is what we have endeavored to make known in these
lectures here, that people such as yourselves will be able to at least give an indication of where a particular area would be, but for that, you'd have to listen over and over to them I know you're getting tired of my voice already.
Anytime you can go to these listening channel. But those are there will be pieces for you to know the area to know is proper series proper content that is part of our jihad in this part of the world. That is part of our defense that someone will not be able to say yeah, Allah I follow that because I didn't know any better. They
wouldn't have the free course, we should have the proper interpretation, the proper interpretation and context.
We should have as many people as possible to present it to However, even if we don't have the people are able to do so then the odema are they
This is a duty before anyone else. If there's any Shiri who doesn't know, and he honestly wants to know, I am here, he can come ask these questions, I would be glad to answer it. And like myself, there are many others that will be glad to answer it. In, in from experience, I will we can see that this very, very rarely happens. Very rarely does it happen, that someone has read one or two books and she has them. And then she comes to us after what is the real interpretation Why? Because this is a time in which everyone is very, very impressed with his own intelligence. I read this book I made up my own mind. If that is the case, by all means go your way, but do not take offense. If your
belief structure will then be combated by others who find that it is something that will lead to the disadvantage of this particular community of ours. The next point, a common factor that you will come across as well is that often you'll find a hadith being quoted not on the source over here, but from the source of the tsunami, it'll be said to you that Why do you make a human cry? these things come from your own books, leave a hobby that we are going to come from your own books. For this reason, it is important to know that anything quoted from a book of Hadith is not automatically authentic. Anything quoted from a book of ideas we need to know you can quote it from the book, can
you authenticate it as well. This is especially true of the later books of hobbies that simply collect together all of our hobbies, ascribe it to their sources, but there's no claim of existence in it. So you have a hobby that needs to be presented. Let everyone be aware you I and anyone else. So the situation that in front of a lot, you will have no answer. If you submitted yourself to a false Huggies to Vicodin remains your duty when faced with a heartbeat of this nature to find out about it, its authenticity. That is the beauty of each and every one faced with a heartbeat that have the potential of changing the way that they view that in first find out is it authentic, how to
authenticate how to find out when something is white house or when something is wrong. That is something which we cannot possibly do justice to in a little gatherings such as this year. But if there's honestly the person really wants to know them first ello v k in quantum la tala moon, if you don't know them as those who do know. And if you did not those who do know then you are responsible for your own guidance.
The same would apply to the next source that people commonly take a misconception from the misconceived or misconstrued idea of what really happened amongst the four horsemen of the alarm, etc. That is the source the history books.
In the books of history, you will find now we've been doing we've been going through the steps in Abu Bakr and Omar Osman Ali,
Mahalia, linear z. And you will find that especially from the time of the Philip of Alli onwards, and then the great calamity of the martyrdom of Simon fussiness Karbala. Society was supercharged with emotion. There were a lot of emotions that we're running wild and haywire, that we're making people do things which they wouldn't normally do. And one of those things is that a person would find himself in a position to relate history will relate it according to how he is john, this is easy. When I joined this, he sees yellow, showing something red, this is yellow, something blue, it says yellow. So this jaundiced eye sees a particular event in history. And he changes his color. It
doesn't see the proper color, he just sees yellow. So many were those in Muslim society at the time, who suffered the fangs of that very
topic from time to time, those were troubled times. And people who suffered under the troubled times, many times will find themselves polarized, either going towards this side or going towards that side. And in their recollection of history. Afterwards, you will find
different versions of what really happened. Different versions, the Crusades were a time of great upheaval. So you'll find that when the Crusaders came to a town called Mahabharata, Norman, Muslims say at that place, they committed cannibalism because they didn't have any food to eat. They took their Muslim captives, they slaughtered them and father eating them. The Christian the Crusaders books are very very silent about this particular issue. Then, the fall of the town of Toronto in South Italy, in the time of Buddha, Mohammed Al Fatiha the Christians claim that Muslims took 800 prisoners 800 prisoners and told them accept Islam or else and they did not accept Islam and all of
them were slaughtered. They say these are models they took their bones and skulls and they built it into a church wall. So they say these are the models of a Toronto force by request by the Muslims to become Christian but they did not Muslim sources on
enslave soldiers, they fought the war, they were killed. So you find different versions of the same events. Therefore, in Islam in Sunni Islam, at the very least, we've developed a methodology of separating, as we say, in Africa, the Quran, and the calf to separate what is good, what is bad, what is authentic from what is unauthentic, there's a methodology. And that methodology is not just as simple as opening the books, a page of a book and saying look a very standard, sometimes the very same event, one of the very same events will be reflected in two completely contradictory ways. One person says, it happened like this, and other person says, it happened like that. And how do you
identify, just look at the two persons look at who they were, and which specific groupings in society they belong to, you know exactly where the person is coming from. So be careful against a reflection of history that goes against the grain of what we as Muslims are expected to believe in, what do I mean? What makes you what makes me able to say that what we expect it to be even when you find statements that go against the noble position, which is given to the Sahaba of the law on them in the Quran.
And you find that same person demonizing a version of history where we come with and JSON couldn't possibly be right.
Your person who
says that lahoma
like a woman would mean a hapa. These are the three leaders and then we are told that these people in mesh became copies and therefore Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam, there is no way in which this could possibly be true. What happens is that when the Warped and distorted version of ISI is given to individuals is kept in isolation, what Allah said about them in the Quran, we need to read our history first and foremost, in the light of what that book, which is what the article Kitab, Lara, Buffy
that's the book of guidance, not the books of history, the books of history secondary, and the book of history, which can be we simply
set down historical report was no claim to authenticity, we need to read it in light of two things. First, in light of the high level position given to the hobbit on the low on in the Quran and the Sunnah. Secondly, in light of who is the particular narrator, who happens to be narrating it? Yes, everything in the book, obviously, is not necessarily gospel truth.
The next point is about eight points. Now, getting to the end of the eight points that I wanted to discuss is just a repetition of last week. It is going to be said to us at Why are you talking about the car? Can't you see that no other Muslim country has done for Islam, what Iran has done in the present world, no country has shown as much backbone and as much resilience of spirits against the West, as Iran has done.
I don't think that can be denied. I think without no sunol jamara we lay our heads in shame.
At times, on account of the pusillanimous marriage with the rulers of Muslim countries are going around doing things. And then
grudgingly we are forced to sometimes admit that know the sense of the Iranian state is a much better stance is a much more, it's a stance that
reveals much more spirit and much more backbone than what the Muslim or the Sunni countries are doing. That being said, having said that, that is no guarantee of with
what has happened in Iran. Number one is not the outpouring of the spirit of theism. It is purely coincidental the details of the look at last week's lecture. Second, secondly,
Iran has been isolated by the rest of the world. They were isolated they've given they've been given no option but to be the opposition. Thirdly, more importantly, Huck will be decided not on the basis of who is standing up, not Last Man Standing not were shown the most backbone happy is not happy with the rhythms of who is in line with the masculine and the son of his muscles on the lower level. Looking at which is the government that is giving the most opposition and getting the most flak, that is something which changes with time with the entire Islamic history is not reduced to this particular
pocket of history results from 1979 onwards is coming history is much broader, much deeper than that. And if we had to really use this as a yardstick that who offered a position
throughout history, then we find that who were the first ones was the harder the Allahumma the ones who carry the flag of Islam forward. The armies of Wailea and Lizzie's was the one that knocked on the doors of Constantinople for the first time.
It was more how we over 20 years managed to maintain stability in a Muslim society. And third, Islam foreign wise, as much as you might not like him, you will have to acknowledge in the same way as we are prepared to acknowledge that he has Khomeini stance against America was a good one.
To say that while we are studying of Islam, he has these knocking on the doors of Constantinople in the army that gave martyrdom to Satan. You balance it in a group of other Sahaba are they prepared to admit that that was backbone as well, that that was jihad in the path of a moment as well as raising the standards of Islam and taking the book have a lot of fun while we activated knowledge, this our database acknowledge that
we are prepared to give credit where credit is due, we hope we are not the only ones who are prepared to do that.
We come to a few last ones.
When I touched on this topic before, it has been said that the Hadith of the Quran,
the Hadith of the Quran, the wires of grief and the statements of suffering abound in the books of the Shia.
We say the Shia will tell us why do you make an issue of the Hadees? We said we don't believe in that is only one issue, only one thing we need to say back to them. Are you prepared to take the next logical step and say that anyone who believes is the result of the soul of Islam says they're not prepared to do I said that before I've incorporated early on but what I want to say about Arabia is something else, the argument is sometimes turned around. Now you understand the wrong you assume is the that is that even the Quran, On what basis
the meaning of the exchanging of the Quran or on as it is, should also just say what's the meaning of study that Eve means apart and the text of the Quran has been changed, distorted, interpreted.
And some of you might remember it from earlier lecture several months ago. Anyway, now the argument is turned around they say that you know, you say that we are copied on account of salary, or some of our scholars that these accounting accounts of salaries, but you yourself believe in
the way we believe in we are the ones who have been looking after the brand all these years. They say if you look into some of your hobbies, if you look into some of the Hadith in Bukhari, in Muslim in all your most authentic sources, then you will find those a hobbyist speaking about what certain is so long and is no longer there a certain surah while as long as all of our current knowledge,
a three quarter Jews or something like that. So where did all of those IR go? Oh yeah, there's something important to understand. They are hobbies. They are hobbies, narrations, historical narrations, by the car and by the sun. That indicates that the entire text of the Quran as we have it there today, once upon a time there was more than it. There are hotkeys on both sides
from the Shia side
how were those Hadith Understood?
Our they understood, they were understood as follows us kochava did away with as simple as that clearly and explicitly stated in the writings of the CO llama were the hobbies that indicate that they were more if once upon a time that they were they are today or they were more words in certain areas than what we find in the most of today. The answer to it was simply say total Sahaja Yoga removing those things from the Quran. Now, we have similar is a hadith and Azhar narrations in the books of Amazon as well. It says there was an ayah once upon a time a Shea who will show you how to eat as an ayah for GMO Houma Alberta Tanaka, Mina LA, when an old man or woman if they come and Xena
then stone them. Now the penalty of stone is not to be found in the Quran. The penalty of Sony is not there. But there's a hadith that says we read this ayah was little La la la Holly he was alum. We read this iron he stone and we will throw that off the spot and parcel of Islam that is not in the Quran. The question comes up,
did the Sahaba of the Alon room remove certain things from the Quran? Or did they not?
argument has been turned around what we say in response to not a single one of the hundreds of 1000s of Allah. Allah Allah has ever explained the Hadith in light of the Hadith. Never has anyone said that we were guilty of making that leap or the Sahaba of the lower gnome removed in the spirit of the text of the Quran. We know what these are hobbies is not anything new that you are informing us of today if there we well aware of it, but we understand particularly we understand it in light of a lot of those words mind numbing stuff mean yet in our own Sina not to be highly minha obviously, Muslims have any idea which we abrogate for separation, something existed once upon a time and a lot
of that takes you back.
Oh, newsy huh? Well, any higher which Allah Allah says, We cause to be forgotten is once upon a time, a lot of sdpo them taken them back a lot of that abrogated them all others remove them from the memories of people that Somalia in the Quran, nuts. The theory of mess, exists in Islam. It is there there are various different forms of this. We say that anything, any Hadith first
uncondition that is the same thing, but any of indicati wishes there were certain things in the Quran once upon a time, which is no longer there, we explained in light of nothing, not a single arm of Amazon has ever said that the Quran has been corrupted. Why? Because the achievement of preserving the Quran in a way that it is a it is our achievement Allah Allah brought it about
through him through people such as the harbor of the Alo Arnhem, through Abu Bakr, Omar, who decided that the Quran must be written down through
the law on him and his counselors and assistants who compiled the Koran. Every half of the parent who goes every parent that faces challenges or shall have a hobby that is join the elite quote of those who preserve the book of Allah tala, we
have made it our life's work, the oma to preserve this plan, in writing in printing in memorizing insalata. Every year when the Quran is recited cover to cover, as it was recycled by jabril, every year to Rasulullah, sallAllahu
wasallam to God. So those are hobbies should not give you any cause of concern. We know them. This is how we account for them, we account for them as a low dollar has accounted for them. This is a case of when is repealed when the iron is abrogated, that a lot of the theory was firm rooted in the Quran, therefore, we have no cause for concern. So if that, if that argument is brought up, that don't accuse us of that, even you may know, there's a huge difference between the hurry to hurry up is when a human hand crosses the text of the Quran. But next is when divine order says a certain ayah, which I revealed once upon a time should now be taken away. Who does that, that Allah and
whose hand changes the Quran, that is the hand of the car.
That was the ninth of the 10th nine points. The last point, the final point before we conclude for tonight, is that
and this was probably from our first or second lecture, these kinds of things started coming up.
Whenever Sudanese get together to discuss the car, then they're American agents.
Were American agents. Why? Because they're working against the interests of the woman, just for the sake of the record, no USA department money has gone into this year. If that had been the case,
I think we'd have been been enjoying much more luxury than what we have here. Allah knows the amount of difficulty that it takes sometimes, as of the last year of the ride, why study models occur. And this isn't in his garage and make copies of things of hamdulillah. He has mentioned, many people have come forward. And they've contributed monies. And on that money, this is not even coming from our motherboard either. MJC This is coming from individuals from individuals coming forward and saying yes, 500 grand for 100 copies people are out from we're not just here just today. Funko comes from Johannesburg, they want permission to start making copies of it because you want to spread it
around there. No monies are made out of this. No monies are made out of anything in this regard. Yes, this is something which has done purely realizada which has started the idea may Allah bless him and reward him for having taken upon himself the duty of seeing that this adventure. This particular series of lectures come up it is his brainchild on the instrument that is fulfilling that.
And from here because it is something conceived in sincerity. And honestly, we have a lot Allah to bless. And we can already see the signs of what are coming where throughout Southern Africa xover requests are coming we want more and more of those lectures, each ham that contributed in this regard. And each person I see those faces that I see every every week. And I want to tell you the choco latte and for being here, it is encouragement for me to carry on when even in the cold evening such as tonight. And sometimes after two or three weeks, I can come here and I know I will see the same faces on the line and deserve a low heaven. It is
it causes pleasure to each and every one of us to uplift these galima Karima to LA he he'll only add the word of Allah will always be above everything else we ourselves can only be count ourselves lucky to be part of those who raised a lot of us words above everything else, whatever we have done. Whatever has been said, whatever good has been said from in Allah that comes from a lot Allah, if anything has been said here that goes against the Kitab Allah against the tsunami of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam that comes from ourselves. There's a lot of Latinos forgive us for that to guide us to what is right and to bless this gathering or whatever else comes from the gathering.
inshallah, we will continue. I will discuss with you afterwards which other topics will come up and has not been decided yet. Many times. What has happened here is that on the last moments, but of the moment decisions have been made you better than many other people would know that I can be a very, very haphazard person at the last moment you come here and I'm not here.
I asked you to forgive me for that as well.
But even that Allah reward you for that even the nice video to sit here without anyone, but we will continue inshallah when how and what topic there will be that will be decided, I think she has seen and so on will inform those who are on the SMS list and so on what will be the topic when it will sort of my thought of next week my father from but later after that, but from my side, there's a couple of them. I'm really, really humbled by the diligence with which people have attained that number might have dropped a bit. But there are a few phases which I cannot miss every week there. Yeah, those are the people who are really the success of these gatherings was in la vida. De La
Bella alameen wa salam ala Sayidina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi waterberry on humble.
In Krishna Lake off, please.
This is all things happening very haphazardly. The brother has some time ago asked me a question and I asked him to it was a very involved complicated kind of question, which couldn't simply be given a five minute answer. And I asked him then he said he's got some material on it, too for the to me by email, which he did. And as usual, I didn't respond yet.
But it's an interesting topic, all the same. inshallah, since it was brought up, I hope to cover that as well. It's not something which we can do in a question and answer right now. But to give everyone a bit of a course is now
a taste of the wine a taste of what's to come. it's to do with our sources of legislation in Islam, the Quran, as well as the Sunnah is a Sunday as well. There are those that would say no Hades, muscles be taken for unimportant alone. And as for Hades, there is something wrong with it. There is something wrong with taking it side by side with the Quran. What are the origins of Hadith? Where does it come from? Why is it authoritative? and Why must it be considered side by side with the Quran? shala. That's a topic which we certainly will deal with.
The claim has been made Indeed, the car after this claim did two things. The first thing they produce a list Look, these are all our files that we had in the past. And the second thing is that they started paying a lot of attention to that vehicle from that point onwards, because it's something that hurts. The reason is, why does it hurt so much? Because it gives credence to the claim that the car do not believe the crown to the developer. And so why waste your time in memorizing a corrupted or an incredible shot of schermo feed is translated in English towards the end of it. There's a section on each one of the 12 imams on the last Imam the Mati, there's a wire
in there that says when the mighty will come back, then he will teach the original Quran as it was supposed to have been. And the ones who will find it most of the people will be the forefather. Why because they learnt it the wrong way. Those who didn't learn any plan before by sama, illuma viewer, you
know what, they will find it most difficult because it has been recorded in the memory in the wrong way. So someone who hasn't done ever he can learn right? So in light of these things, but in light of these things, the CIA have now started.
In light of that they never paid much attention to him of the Quran. When these claims started being started hitting too close to home, then the Iranian government started methodologically schools of taffy, not just that, not the schools of taffy, which other country do you know of? That takes us how far throughout the world parades into the entire world, as I see you is about to have you see what the good hobbies we have, because there's a point to be made. I mean, there are many countries of Turkey that had eight years of enforced secularism and some excellent forefathers the Koran as well. We ourselves a small rural community at the southern tip of Africa, high schools are all over
the show. But we don't take our father on a world tour to show the world look at what the good half is we have there was a point to be made. We just asked the question, Where was all of that before the revolution?
They say well, we had for five
you know some post humans the after the after the event anyone can produce we can now say you know 100 years ago Cape Town is 3000 4000 and then we
producing this also. But what prevents us from doing that?
Because we Sudanese cannot lie, we cannot lie, we don't have the permission to lie. They are another group of people, not only to their permission, they have also encouragement and they get rewarded when they lie as well.
I'm sure yeah, I've listened to your CDs.
60 lectures, pick up a lot of figures would like to offer that opportunity to that.
for some flowers. advisory is if you know the subject debate, if you don't know the subject, stay out of it. If you know the subject well enough, by all means, go ahead. I will never take on debating anyone on nuclear physics. I don't know the first word about the topic.
Someone called me as three out of the blue and he wants from me advice about how to three piles. I said, so bahala, I'm just a fellow that knows a bit of Hadith. And I don't know anything about medical knowledge.
So when it comes to those topics, I don't debate on it simply because I don't know if someone knows the topic. By all means, if you don't know the topic, stay out of it. Because you might just be causing more harm than good. the wrong person might be listening in You see, look at the Sunni and look at the CA and he equates the entire lesson to you at that moment is a this is no sooner than I'd rather not be a Sunni. So sometimes it is better to walk away from a debate
and tell the person if he really wants to debate. There are those that will leave it him if he's really interested to do so.
There are different kinds of abrogation. abrogation is of three different kinds. There are cases where the owner must speak of where the wording of the Quran gets abrogated. Now when the wording is abrogated, it won't appear in the Koran now. Then there are cases where the wording is not abrogated, but the hokum the law, which it indicates that's been abrogated, you will find certain is of that nature, in the Quran, where the wording stands, but the token is no longer there. However, that is one of two opinions. So what do you love the least specifically, is of the opinion that there is barely any
abrogated or all of those that are
generally claimed to be abrogated. He says no, it does have some place or the other. In other words, an example of that would be a certain idea, once upon a time.
For example, what let's take this if
we're lucky enough, for instance, I mean Nisa,
foster shinohara naramata Minkoff in shadow, MC cohoon. siedle yo te hace
mucho en la luna Savita, if Xena has taken place, if Xena has taken place, and for what this is a testify to it. Now you asked any Muslim today what would be the punishment? He says, Well, if they were married, and you stone them if they got married, 100 lashes and so on. But initially that was not the outcome. Initially, the outcome is for unseco Nuffield bu t keep that those people those women who have committed to Zina keep them in indoors, in other words, house arrest, they won't go outside
until death takes them away. Now that's not a punishment any longer. When we came to Medina, then the hokum change and it was now
a zania it was Ernie pajarito la vida Minami agenda How can change man and woman committed Zina 100 lashes? And in the case of married one stoning in a case such as this, what if circumstances go back to the way that they were in Makkah? What is circumstance go back to that way? Now there was where the Muslim community has no ability to carry out, carry out the punishment of under lashes who knows it better than ourselves. We can't don't take every person guilty of Xena and start lashing them we're gonna get in trouble ourselves. So good that I A is an ISO woman so so abrogated that it can never come back or could be passed take recourse to the way things were once upon a time because
things have gone back to that way again, on based on what on the base of arguments such as this, there will be those automatic argue that there is no one so there is no abrogated verse in the Quran, but it's a matter of divergence of opinion.
So, just the majority opinion is it remains on so is a minority opinion he says it can still be workable some of the other
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for all the weeks and all the effort is put in and we so much in which by all the knowledge is conveyed to us hamdulillah we praise Allah subhanaw taala and we thank Allah for giving us all the math such as the caliber of an attack Iran and also chef fun and we are we
in making sugar for our lesson so we should remind ourselves that part of that sugar is to is to make Amazon what we've learned and also to convey to others inshallah,
we will have Shaka Zulu, apart from the office, above everybody in this evening our families of children with the same model are deeply sincerely for what has shifted us, educated us and honey love planning, we are in the very, very humble, very thankful and appreciative and inshallah Tada, we will know the job actually starts, we became students, and now we need to convey what you've learned to others inshallah, tada, we will try to get the two seats together because some of the teachers different schools together, they've listened to every every lecture and then compile, manage a syllabi for the primary school, high schools as much as it needs to, into on the go to she
has, then also inshallah Tada, we as we said, Of Tasha sada is our duty, our duty to make sure that every household has a full set of lectures, as we all did this machine so that we have free will of god we can see Allah, we have conveyed we have given the message that business people together
in Kenya in different massages a few years ago today Today Today, there are wealthy people in the Muslim mousseline among the mortgage services, we need a few of you to give each one a 500 fatherly we give you 100 CDs, she has 3456 people that you can actually give out to every Sunday, it gives him a CD inshallah, the secret is to be ready within the next week or two inshallah, they will have to see this DVD in total approximately 2020 to 23 lectures inshallah, tada, please make sure that we have all your contact numbers, and audio even numbers as well as you sell numbers. So, when we start at an issue with or the week after, we have to be informed and also we show the formula the topic
will be in Charlotte Tyler. So, as you will see that it will be some turbulence in the in the airways with regards to another topic that that we will be discussing, that we may have a bonus if you go gentlemen, but tell me will it give the same concern to magnesium on the radio as you're given to Shiism? And obviously he couldn't give an answer. So inshallah tada we are not doing to challenge people we are doing it in order to educate your people in order to equip our people in order to enrich them in order to,
to enlighten them. So that we are knowledgeable, to know the right from the wrong and the good from the evil, etc, etc. At the end of the day, we as Oliver Oliver are responsible a lot of
Did you convey Jesus in the message did you teach people did you tell them
I would like to say to you the in of concluding remarks from my side hamdulillah I always have the Sahaba are always really sincerely and I think others these lectures are much more swana loving nature. So if I go I say to people, how can we allow people to cook and sweet people who
love so dearly? Tell me how
To be possible
and shred people from the very early salary to love so dearly as Abby stated in getting the life that was promised in
a world but was that to say, but still you We love the Sahaba never loved in an old town was satisfied peacefully but solo violin Mohamed savage nine to 100 because
the phone was an animal city while hungry low.
So if we will need to know
either during the week we will because next week or the week after that inshallah, but you will raise the bar