Suzy Ismail – NJSCBWI Closing Keynote

Suzy Ismail
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The speakers discuss the importance of immersing oneself in a world to be a good writer, regardless of one's subject, and the need for character in writing to represent a certain culture or faith. They also touch on the "naughty culture" that exists in America where women and children interact with their parents. The speakers emphasize the importance of saving the world and connecting with diverse audiences through writing. They also share stories about a man named Muhammad Ali who found himself in a box and felt a connection to his son's name, and encourage writing to change one's life and stop quiet.
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So it's an interesting dynamic when you're trying to write

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particularly about a culture or a faith that you may not be a part

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of, that the key to being able to enter into that world is to

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immerse yourself in that world. And multicultural writing, or

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writing from a diverse perspective is no different than the writing

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that we all do day in and day out. You know, there was this beautiful

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quote that I wanted to share with you, which is that all writing is

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about crossing boundaries. Good writers learn how to inhabit the

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skins of others, even those whose life experiences are very

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different from their own. So in a very real sense, the skills you

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need to successfully write across cultures are the same skills you

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need to master in order to be a good writer, regardless of your

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subject.

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And I find that this whole is incredibly true. We all have

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different experiences, we've all experienced the world in different

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ways. We all come from our own worldview. And we can put that

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into our writing, we can incorporate that into our writing.

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And that in itself makes it more authentic. But what happens when

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you do want to step outside yourself, and you want to write in

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a voice that may not be natural to you, that may not be what you

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lived or what you grew up with. But you identify that there is an

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issue out there. And you need a character in your book that

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represents a certain culture or a faith or an ethnic minority? What

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do you do?

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First of all, it's about literary literary anthropology, being able

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to immerse yourself and study the people of that culture. Please

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don't try to write a book about Muslims just by watching Fox News.

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Focus on the people themselves, get to know someone have that

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faith or that background, or immerse yourself in that culture.

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Go to little towns and areas that may be known for having, you know,

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a diverse group people that you want to write into your stories.

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There's a beautiful little last passage, if you have a chance to

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read it up. It's called the NASA Remo by Horus minor. And it was

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written quite some time ago, in the 1950s, I believe, Horace

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miners, a sociologist, and he wrote about this culture, this

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exotic culture where people would, you know, bake their heads in

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little oven in order to make their hair look nice, where people would

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lacerate their faces with sharp objects in the pursuit of looking

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clean, where people would use hog hairs with some magical potions on

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them to rub them inside their teeth. Sounds like a strange

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culture, right?

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But when we look at the word nurseryman, and we spell it

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backwards, we see that it actually smells American. And what he was

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describing in that moment, was, you know, women who go to

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hairdressers and put their heads in the, in the hairdryer, you

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know, us as humans, you know, back then in the 1950s, I guess the

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bristles might have been looking like like hog hairs on the

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toothbrushes with the toothpaste on top. The lacerating of the face

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would be the shaving, of course. And yet for someone that steps

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outside of the culture, and looks at our American culture with

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different eyes, it can become something strange, something

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exotic. And we tend to do this with other cultures that we don't

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belong to, we tend to look at them as the other. And that can seep

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into our writing if we're not careful.

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So focus on that immersion, but not just the verbal immersion.

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It's not just speaking to someone, but it's about understanding the

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nonverbal as well. Looking at how people stand next to each other,

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how close or how far away? Do they stand next to each other in that

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culture? How do children interact with their parents? What are the

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politics of touch? What are gender relations all about in that

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society? See the culture understand it, smell it, taste it,

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eat the foods, move in with a family that may be willing to

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adopt you for a couple of months, you know, but find the culture.

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And that's how you find your voice.

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Also, of course, learning how to speak in the same time, I often

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get questions from people about you know, Arabic words, you know,

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did I say this right? Is this is this what it means in the culture?

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How about this? Is this a phrase that's normally said? But you

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know, for each of us when we're writing, whether we're writing

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children's books, are ya or middle grade or adult? There is a

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language that we need to adopt. And you know, I put some of these

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words up there BRB, TGIF, see you later lmao, Fox, PG, I don't know,

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whatever my teens are texting these days.

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But all of this texting language, it's something that's also found

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its way into our writing into our stories that we tell because it's

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part of the culture part of the generation right now. You know,

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recently my youngest was not my eight year old was running around

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the house saying, oh, Ma, oh, Ma, and I'm like racking my brain. I'm

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like, What the heck is oh Ma? And so I stopped and I asked her what

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is Oma? And she looks at me, she's like, you don't know and I'm like,

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No, so she said it's oh my Allah, you know, which Allah

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Light is the Arabic word for God.

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And in her mind, she didn't fully make the transition from the

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Arabic word of God to God. So these are the types of linguistic

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elements that we begin to understand in a culture. And that

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we see. And you know, when I asked her, she said, Oh, my friends say

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that.

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And so we see that this language is adopted, but I wouldn't have

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known that if I wasn't around my child.

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So how do you do your research? Assuming you can't find a family

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that will take you in for a month? What else do you do? Again, social

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media is a beautiful thing. Um, one of my adult books that I've

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been working on for quite some time now, and I've been kind of

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holding on too tightly, because I keep revising, and revising. Um,

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it's called Voices of the Arab Spring. And it's a chronicle of

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the 18 different countries that went through the Arab Spring. And

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I've collected different stories from individuals who live in those

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countries. And when I first started this project, I began to

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reach out to people on social media, I follow some people on

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Twitter, I found them on Facebook, those who are prolific who are

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writing blogs who have things to say, and every single person that

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I contacted, had a story to share. And they wanted to share that

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story.

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And because this book is now transitioning into a companion

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copy of Hawaii, iron, and G, I'll be traveling this summer, actually

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to Jordan and Syria, to interview some of the children in the

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orphanages. They're in the refugee camps and in the medical clinics.

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And I'm hoping that in that way, you know, even though I can say

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that I am of the Muslim faith, even though I can say that I speak

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the Arabic language, I know that I need to be there to experience the

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stories that I want to share, that in order to find the authentic

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voice, I need to know what it's really like. And I know we don't

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always have that opportunity. But there are ways that we can connect

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with others who do have that opportunity, and who are able to

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go that extra mile and find out and share with you what is on

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their mind.

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One of the fears that we often see in you know, this this truck for

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We Need Diverse Books, is sometimes the idea of the white

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man's burden. And for those of you who are familiar with Richard

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Caitlin's Kipling's poem, you know, that he spoke about this

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white man's burden, this idea that we need to save the world. And our

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ethnocentrism, as Americans often puts us in that position, to think

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that we're here to save all those who can't save themselves. I

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cannot tell you how many times I've been approached and told, you

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know, I can liberate you from the impression that you are living

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under. And my response is always like, do I look like an oppressed

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woman to you. But this is something that we have grown up

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with this idea that we have to save the world, you don't have to

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save the world, you just have to tell it stories.

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Some of the books that have always spoken to me in terms of you know,

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diversity in terms of telling stories and of other worlds worlds

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that I may not know that I may not have lived but want to experience.

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These are just a few of the books that have spoken to me, and I'm

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sure there's many, many more out there that you love reading and

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that have spoken to you. But you know, I remember when I read

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Memoirs of a Geisha, I had to keep going back to look at the author's

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name Arthur golden, because I was like, Is this a pen name, he knows

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the culture so well. And I kept thinking, this has to be a geisha

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in disguise, who's written this book, because it was so

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beautifully told. And because it was so culturally relevant. And

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this is the authenticity that we strive for in our writing, that

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connection that we can have with a diverse audience, while speaking

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from the voice of that diverse audience.

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Now, the impact of our words, of course, we all know, you know,

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when we have that book out there, we've written that blog post,

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we've written an article, and someone comes back to us and says,

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you know, that changed my life, what you wrote, it affected me, it

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impacted me. And as writers, I think that's probably the

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strongest words that we could ever hear. And as artists also when we

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draw, or we paint, or we create something, and if we put it out in

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the world, and we get that feedback, that it affected

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someone, we know that we've made a difference. And so we have to ask

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ourselves, sometimes, you know, do the words create our world? Or

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does the world create our words? And I tend to be on the side of

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the theory of socio linguistic relativity, that our words create

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our world, because it's what we choose to put on paper that tells

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the stories of those around us. It's what we choose to put out

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there in the world, that becomes a priority. That becomes important.

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You know, just a few days ago, this book was released. Its

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Ramadan, curious, George. Ramadan is the month of fasting for

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Muslims. And it begins on Monday, actually.

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And you know, I Isha sallied. The author of written in the stars a

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book that I posted in that panorama that I had just briefly

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before. She said that when she received her box of books, her

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five year old son picked up this book, and he looked at it for

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quite some time.

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And then he turned to her and opened his eyes wide and

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whispered, does that mean curious, George knows about me.

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And this is the connection that our diverse books can bring to the

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world.

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You know, just yesterday, a great leader, an icon, someone that is

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well known and beloved to so many, Muhammad Ali, the boxer passed

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away.

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And my son woke up in the morning, and you know, who's listening, we

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have the news on and you know, my husband and I were speaking about

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it. And he said to me, Wow, my name is over today.

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And it was the first time that my, my son could say that my 12 year

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old son could say that in a positive light. And I saw him kind

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of, you know, puff out his chest a little bit. And he kept, you know,

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boxing his little sister all day long.

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But he felt something he felt a connection for once he felt his

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name was associated on the news was something that was being

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celebrated, rather than someone that was being condemned. And that

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made a difference to him.

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Now, Muhammad Ali has some beautiful quotes, and one of my

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favorites is this one. It's the lack of faith that makes people

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afraid of meeting challenges. And I believe in myself.

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And that's what we all need to do. Because as I looked around this

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weekend, at the beautiful art that was displayed, as I looked around,

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at the authors, the illustrators, the writers, the ones who are just

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beginning their journeys, and the ones who are already far into

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their journeys, as I look around today, even at all of you who are

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sitting here, I know that we all have stories to tell, I know that

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we all have something to say, we all have something to share with

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the world. And you don't know what it is that you may share, that

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will change someone's life, that will lift a child out of that

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yearning for blond hair and blue eyes, and make that person believe

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that they are just not good enough, but they are good, and

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that they deserve to be here in this world. And that's the power

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of writing. That's the power of drawing. That's the power of

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creating, because we have that gift to be able to give it to the

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world. So don't give up. And don't keep quiet, because your story has

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to be taught.

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And I just want to end by sharing a poem with you from one of my

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favorite authors from Pablo Neruda. And the poem is called

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keeping quiet.

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Now, we will count to 12. And we will all keep still,

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for once on the face of the earth. Let's not speak in any language.

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Let's stop for one second, and not move our arms so much. It would be

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an exotic moment, without rush. Without engines, we would all be

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together in a sudden strangeness. Fishermen in the cold sea, would

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not harm whales, and the man gathering salt would look at his

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hurt hands.

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Those who prepare green wars, wars with gas wars with fire, victories

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with no survivors would put on clean clothes, and walk about with

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their brothers in the shade, doing nothing. What I want should not be

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confused with total inactivity. Life is what it is about. I want

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no truck with that.

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If we were not so single minded about keeping our lives moving,

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and for once, could do nothing. Perhaps a huge silence might

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interrupt the sadness, of never understanding ourselves and

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threatening ourselves with death.

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Perhaps the Earth can teach us as when everything seems that and

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later proves to be alive.

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Now I'll count up to 12 and you keep quiet and I will go thank you

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