Suhaib Webb – Taking Action On Affirmative Action

Suhaib Webb
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The speakers discuss the importance of identifying as a prophetic community to address issues with political and moral norms and to be a commitment to prophetic teachings. They stress the need to be a balance between political and prophetic, align their minds with the church, and be a reminded of the importance of learning the 50 obligations of Islam. They also discuss the historical context of accommodations throughout history and the importance of strong institutions to strengthen the Islamic schools. The speakers express concern about the challenges of the airplane and the influence of institutions on society, and emphasize the importance of strong institutions and pressure on institutions to strengthen the Islamic schools.
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Every one of you. You know, in the

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season of Hajj, which is a season of

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this incredible

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display of diversity,

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coalescing around one major goal as

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says, you know, coming together from all over

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the world, from different languages, different tribes, different

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people, different complexions

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to worship

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Allah.

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Call all people

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to Hajj. As Allah says

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there's an adukkira, Sayna Sha'aba, Hajjul Baytih,

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that, you know,

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this this season of Hajj is for humanity.

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In the backdrop of this incredible season of

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Eid, the story of Sayid Ibrahim alayhis salam,

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the sacrifices of a family that was in

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fact, an interracial family,

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and Satan Ismail becomes known as a mustarib,

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someone who becomes Arab.

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I I

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I was moved and disturbed by the decision

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yesterday of the Supreme Court to

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dismantle

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affirmative action, especially as someone who taught in

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the university system for almost 10

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years and and noted,

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the incredible,

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disparity,

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ethnically,

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and racially,

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that existed and financially within that system. And

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someone also who was a chaplain in the

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prison systems years ago,

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noting the absolute disparity within,

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the number of people who are incarcerated

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and the continuation of

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of the Jim Crow state through,

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the carceral system, these are things that disturb

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me.

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And I wanted to address this really from

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3

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areas, and I ask Allah to give me

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tofir. And if I say something wrong, I

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ask brothers and sisters to look at it

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with the ein of rahma fasaddid

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alkhalala.

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You know, as Sayna Al Hariri says, then

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fix mistakes, but fix it with with with

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a a fair discussion and good assumptions.

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And I know that in this heightened

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time of discourse within,

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social media, Islam

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through content providers were quick to sort of

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react in ways that are hurtful,

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and unbecoming

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of Muslim discourse. So I ask people to,

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if something I say may offend you or

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something I say is incorrect,

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have a good suspicion, reach out to me

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and contact me. I

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wanna address this really through 3 angles. Number

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1 is why it is very important that

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we, at least here in the United States,

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identify ourselves as a prophetic community who may

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do politics, but not as a political community

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who may do prophecy.

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And I worry about this now, especially as

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political nomenclature,

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continues to seep in. Right? There's a great

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article in Atlantic Weekly by, I think, Shahedi

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Ahmed that talks about how politics is replacing

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religion. That is a concern for me. Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala, alama, Adam al asma, aqulaha.

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Adam was taught the names of things. Nomenclature

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is very important. Allah says to the companions,

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don't say ra'ina. It's a term, but it's

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a term that has a dangerous

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potential, so don't use it. It's harmful. Use

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something else. So we are a community that

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should be concerned

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about the meanings of the things we say,

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and how we express ourselves,

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even if we put a political,

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a prophetic

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gloss on it. That's a concern. Second thing

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that I wanna talk about is why this

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position is problematic taken by the Supreme Court,

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at least from my vantage,

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as someone who's trained in Islam,

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somewhat and and and how we should look

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at it as

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really a concern because

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Islam,

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the prophet

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the Quran itself as we talk about, make

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sure people have access to things which are

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beneficial.

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As you know, the writer of Malakhi Surut

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says

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Right? Anything that can create harm within Islam

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is considered forbidden.

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And not having access to certain things for

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all people can be problematic,

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like worship, for example, like the masajid, like

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education,

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financial,

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potential. Those things, the maqas and sharia,

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are things that we believe all people should

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have access to. And then finally, what are

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the things we can do, wata'awinuwalaalgudriwataqqa'ah,

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that we can make sure that we say

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allies to people impacted negatively by this decision?

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Those who are going to be impacted, black

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Americans,

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people of, Latino Americans,

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the people who here before everybody,

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who very rarely I saw in the academy,

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in my years, of of study and teaching,

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Native Americans were very much a unicorn within

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the academy system. These are concerns that we

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should have. How can we make sure that

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we stay allies to these issues? The first

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point, Allah

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alludes to this idea of being a prophetic

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community who may need to do politics

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from time to time, but not a political

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community that does prophecy when he says in

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Shur'at Hadid.

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Allah says that indeed we sent the messengers

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with clear proofs,

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and we revealed to them books,

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in so that

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and the balance.

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And here, the measure or the balance, some

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scholars said it means the sunnah, others said

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it means the intellect,

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so that people could establish justice. So here

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we find that the initial sort of responsibility

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of the establishment of justice as Muslims

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is our familiarity

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with revelation, our familiarity with our Prophet's teachings

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our familiarity with what was revealed to him,

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so that we can then establish

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prophetic

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justice, not subjective justice, but prophetic justice.

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And then comes the aqal,

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walmizan,

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according to some scholars. And, you know, it's

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interesting that the words used for aqal, we're

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we're now in the month of of

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Eid,

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this time of Eid. Allah says,

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So the same word as a stone,

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but here hijr means aqal,

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means the intellect. Why? Because the hijr, it

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it should prevent things.

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It prevents

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things from happening. So the mind, if

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it's employed correctly by the person,

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is one that is going to prohibit us

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from acting on evil,

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harm, injustice, or the disobedience of Allah

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Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.

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Also, the word aqaal, if you're from the

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Khaleed, you know, qutrual aqaal. Right? You know,

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the aqaal is traditionally from the word of

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that thing that people wear on their heads,

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which was used historically to tie a camel,

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because we should tie our mind

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from acting in in ways which are belligerent

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and ignorant.

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I seek refuge in Allah from being someone

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who's intolerant,

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someone who doesn't have him.

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And Allah

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he

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says, I seek refuge from knowledge that has

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no benefit. So the idea of utilizing our

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mind.

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So first and foremost, to establish prophetic,

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a prophetic community is one that has familiarity

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with revelation, but also employs its mind

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to understand

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and apply that revelation,

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and to live according to prophetic teachings. So

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personal accountability.

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And I think that's something that sometimes we

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fail to appreciate, that there is a level

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of personal accountability to being

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a committed Muslim is someone who is

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someone that's using their mind, engaging, not allowing

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sheikhs and imams to live vicariously.

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I live vicariously through them. Now there are

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certain things I have to learn

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the 50 obligations of aqidah,

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the

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in worship. These are things that I have

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to learn the related to tiskit and nafs

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and akhlaq. Those are things that we all

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have to learn. Then the verse continues.

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And we also sent iron, and here iron,

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of course, is a metaphor for the sword,

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in those times power was was very much

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weighed. Political power was was what's waged through

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the sword. Excuse me. And of course, we

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can expand that to any type of power

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that we may need to acquire to preserve

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prophecy

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and to preserve

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revelation.

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And there's

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a benefit to this.

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So we need to to locate ourselves between

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2 extremes. One is there's no politics in

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Islam. One is that politics comes first. We

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find sometimes extreme people on the left and

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right, putting political nomenclature in front of religious

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nomenclature, putting political agenda before religious agenda. And

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that's how we become

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been co opted

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and used in the proxy wars of America

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by the right and the left, and we

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are no longer able to stand in a

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place

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of prophetic balance.

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Allah says

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don't disturb the balance and Allah locates us

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as a community,

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a condition to do prophetic work is to

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be balanced.

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We have made you the balanced community on

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the sunnah of the messenger of Allah aligning

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with revelation, Sharia compliant,

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so that you can be witnesses. Witnesses for

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what? Witnesses to prophecy

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to the Messenger of Allah, salallahu alaihi wa

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sallam. That's why we know in the hereafter

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that our community actually bear witness against other

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prophetic communities

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on behalf of their prophets because they failed

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to uphold

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the teachings of their prophets. And that's why

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the prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Salam says in

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you are the witnesses of Allah to the

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earth. So this is something I want to

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pack more in the future. I'm going to

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talk about this in Spain at a retreat

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that's coming at the end of the of

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July.

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How we make sure and I'm not saying

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I haven't made mistakes brothers and sisters, because

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I have, how do we make sure that

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we align ourselves as a prophetic community who

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may do politics, but those politics are driven

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by prophecy, not a political community who drives

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this prophecy

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by political ideology

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or political assumptions or understandings.

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We have to be very, very careful of

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that,

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and make sure that we are prophetic in

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our work.

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So whether it comes to issues like

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racial relations, economic issues,

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issues related to power,

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sexual morality,

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We are now dividing, seeing Muslims dividing over

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political ideology

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instead of dividing over religion, which is now

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adding a secular layer to our divisions as

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though we, we, we needed to add another

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layer

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of, of division to our community. We need

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to emancipate ourselves from secular, political ideology, and

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nomenclature,

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and make sure that we align ourselves with

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prophecy. And how do we do that? We

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study Aqirah.

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We study fiqh.

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We locate ourselves as being Abdullah.

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My primary role is I am the Abd

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of Allah. I am the slave of Allah,

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the servant of Allah, and this comes before

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everything else.

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Sayyidina Musa says, I do not own myself

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or

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my brother, we are all owned by Allah

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and then that drives me

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to then think about studying religion

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in a way that is focused on obedience

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to Allah, obedience to the Messenger. And when

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there's issues of isjihad amongst jurists and scholars,

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then we have that necessary flexibility that allows

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us to cohesively differ.

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So I think

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really it's important that we locate ourselves and

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begin to talk about La ilaha illallah Muhammad

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Rasoolah. How do we anchor ourselves as a

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prophetic community who may do politics,

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when it does not

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cause us to compromise our role as a

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prophetic community? But not a political community who

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has no concerns about compromising its role as

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a prophetic community.

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2nd is

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the concern on this issue around affirmative action

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should be 1, which is is taken from

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a point where there is no moral dilemma.

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We can take

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we can take

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we find that this is a problematic issue.

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Number 1 is that Islam

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made sure that people had access

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to things like worship,

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you know,

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Hajj call all people to Hajj.

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Right? That Hajj is prescribed for all people.

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For all people.

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Who's worse than those who keep people from

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Masajid.

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Sayyut to say this was sent because, you

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know, whether it was the Christians or the

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people of Mecca, there were religious communities that

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were

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saying, you know, you don't have access to

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worship. You can have access to worship. You

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cannot have access to this place.

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So it's problematic because

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subhanAllah,

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how are people going to find the truth

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if they can access it?

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The prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam Allahu subhanahu

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wa ta'ala commands him to make sure that

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at a social level, so religious level, at

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a social level, that people had access to

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him and people had access to Islam.

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This verse was sent because the Quraysh,

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you know, chastised the Prophet from being followed

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by the poor, from being followed by people

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who were not Arab, being followed by people

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who didn't have the same social status, and

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economic and political power they had, Sayyidina Suhaib,

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Sayyidina

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Salman, and others. And this verse came telling

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the prophet you must resiliently stay with these

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people, these people must have access to you.

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Sallallahu alaihi wa'arihi wasa hahi wa sallam. When

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it comes to education, we know that Kitman

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that one of the obligations of the prophets

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is to teach and not to hide.

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That the prophets came, one of the things

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we believe about our prophets is tablik, they

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shared the message to everybody. So we go

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into Sahih Bukhari, we find women had access

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to the prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, even he

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gave them a day to study that young

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children could ask the Prophet questions Sallallahu Alaihi

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Wasallam that he would teach them that

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was a young Sahabi. When he became older,

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he said, the reason I remember this hadith

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is because I was a child, and the

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prophet took the time to teach him and

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mentor him. The prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam took

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Sayna Mu'az, Sayna Abdul Iba Masood, Sayna Abdul

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Iba Umar and others, they would ride on

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his donkey with him, they had access, accessibility

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to education.

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We know that the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa'arihi

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Wa Sallam, he commanded

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the people who wanted to ransom themselves from

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being prisoners of war to teach 10 children

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how to read, Sallallahu Alaihi

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Wasallam, thinking about this, he encouraged people

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to equal out the social disparity

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and the economic

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disparity

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and the future of a community that was

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growingly diverse.

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The Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Salam

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makes these accommodations. We find this throughout history

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saying, Amr Al Khattah when he comes to

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Mecca, he found that a person that used

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to be a slave was now the imam

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of the people, and he said indeed Allah

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raises some people by his book and lowers

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some people by his book, that people had

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accessibility.

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Mujahid, the student of ibn Abbas, who said,

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I read the entire Quran to him and

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stopped at each verse and made tafsir. He

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was a former slave, Aibidah

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al Madaniyah, who was known Bint Al Naka,

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who had so many books of Hadith. This

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is a former slave woman who became such

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a scholar in Medina that subhanah her caravan,

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she had a caravan of books, she was

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on the daughter of the camels because she

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had so many camels to carry her books.

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So we have a historical precedence for people

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who were on the, if you will, the

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the the outside

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of economic and political power had access into,

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opportunities for education and eventual leadership. Look at

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Ibon Talun in Cairo, who who who is

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a slave, who becomes a leader. The Mamluk,

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who become leaders, who were former slaves. You

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can look in the history of Andalus and

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some of the the later leaders after the

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Amois were people that came from societies, al

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Mansur, that were marginalized, but had access

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in society and made sure that things were,

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accessible to them to live a decent

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life. SubhanAllah. So we we have a history

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not only of being committed to

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structural justice,

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especially in a democracy in this country, but

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also you find examples of this.

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And empirically,

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we, we know that there's a great study

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by Georgetown University. I think there was the

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Browder Foundation that did independent study that

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the the in,

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the lack of access that people have,

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within a higher education compared to the number

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of high school graduates racially is something that

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we should be concerned about as Muslims.

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And something that

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we should be extremely worried about. I remember,

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when I was studying in the Azhar and

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I was sitting, you know, subhanAllah,

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in a class, and a blind student came

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into the class.

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And I remember this teacher of ours,

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who is not famous, has passed on. You

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know, he he told everyone, make sure that

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this individual can hear. Move out of the

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way.

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Make

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space Allah will make space for you. And

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I remember that this individual

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grew to be an incredible teacher and an

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imam, because the made sure that

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he was

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heard, he wasn't hidden, and that he had

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access in a way that would allow him

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to achieve his education.

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So historically,

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as a as a scriptural precedence and as

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a a political,

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precedence and then as an academic precedence within

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our history, we find that up especially till

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the 10th century,

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Hijri,

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people had access to religious education, and people

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were able to participate. And this is one

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of the concerns when Sheikh Tantawi,

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the former Sheikh Azar, when he closed down

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the Katateeb in Egypt, the Qur'anic schools said

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one of the things that the Qur'anic schools

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did is made sure that the people who

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were marginalized and underserved,

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who did not have the financial resources to

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go to Madrasah Hasa,

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that their children would have an opportunity to

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learn how to read, to learn the Quran,

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learn their religion, and and to grow.

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There was a structural concern with this fatwa,

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not simply

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a historical symbolic concern. Yes. But also the

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structural implications were were

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were were warranted.

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Finally, I think here within the United States,

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we we have to

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look at this as something as a prophetic

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community and make sure that we put pressure

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on institutions,

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that we strengthen our Islamic schools. People are

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concerned about the challenges of the encroaching,

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compulsion of making our children study things which

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don't align with our sexual morals and sexual

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morality.

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This is also something that we should also

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be concerned with in strengthening Islamic schools, and

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demanding more from Islamic schools, and funding Islamic

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schools. If we're really concerned, because unfortunately, the

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left and right are turning the public school

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system into

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a target for cultural wars. How do we

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sort of step out of that is by

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strengthening our private schools and making sure that

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and I saw this when I was in

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Oklahoma City that, Michelle, we had a large

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number of students that were sponsored by people

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in the community, making sure they had access

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to really great education.

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I know here in Maryland, I see that

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with our Islamic schools that a large number

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of people are supporting students that have access

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to education, but also strengthening,

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the quality of the Islamic schools, the the

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governorship of the Islamic schools, making sure that

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our nonprofits,

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right, are representative

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of all of our community members, especially at

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a board level. These are things that we

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can do in our own institutions to sort

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of

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push against this injustice. Right? We can't just

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simply call out an injustice. It exists in

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our own institutions. So at a governorship level,

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people are represented, and then we are making

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sure to strengthen and support Islamic education to

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protect,

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not only to protect, but to prepare

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our young future community

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for leadership

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and prophetic,

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location within society.

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We also need to make sure that if

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we are alumnis of,

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illustrious institutions, that we're putting pressure on them,

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that we if we can come together and

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support scholarship for people who are marginalized and

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not heard and are impacted by this.

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And finally, we need to be, and most

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importantly, good listeners.

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What are those communities saying should be done?

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How can we listen to their voices and

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make sure that we ally with them? So

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just a few thoughts on this horrible decision

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to ask a lot to give us. Tawfiq

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number 1, I talked about the danger of

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being a political community that does prophecy when

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it wants to instead of being a community

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that locates itself as a prophetic community and

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then is allows this politics to be driven

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by,

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political,

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by prophetic teachings,

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and scriptural teachings. And then areas of ishdihad

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recognizes that there may be differences in areas

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where we can be flexible.

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Number 2, we talked about sort of the

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precedents within Islam of making sure people had

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access

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to religion, people had access to the Prophet,

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people had access socially the system of Baha'u

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in Medina, making different tribes become brothers and

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work together. So we all feel a sense

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of,

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of harmony as a community,

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a number numerous examples of that. And then

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finally, we talked about how we can be

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allies to communities that are going to be

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greatly impacted by this irresponsible decision.

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We ask

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Allah to give us a sense of Adil

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and to make us from the people who

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are truly a prophetic community. Barakkalofikum.

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And thank you for your time. Please leave

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your comments below if you have any thoughts

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or ideas on what else can be done,

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in the face of this really difficult decision.

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Wassalamu

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alaykum.

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Warahmatullah.

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