Suhaib Webb – Did The Salaf Destroy Churches

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The speakers discuss the historical construction of ancient churches during the Bible's time, including the Church of Saint Mark in Alexandria during the time of the Bible's time, the Church of Saint Mark in Alexandria during the Islamic era, and the Church of Saint Mark in Alexandria during the Islamic era. They emphasize the importance of historical records and calling for alignment with prophetic morality. The historical construction of churches during the Bible's time, as well as the time of the Sun themes, is also discussed. The importance of historical records and calling for alignment with prophetic morality is emphasized. The historical construction of churches during the Bible's time and during the early Islamic era is also discussed. The historical construction of churches during the time of the Bible's time and the time of the Sun themes is also discussed. The historical construction of churches during the time of the Bible's time and the early Islamic era is also discussed. The importance of historical records and alignment with prophetic morality is emphasized.

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			Hope everybody do is doing amazing.
		
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			Actually just returned from
		
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			a trip.
		
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			In,
		
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			in Spain and Andalus, I was teaching a
		
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			course on the colonality,
		
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			with the program through UC Berkeley. It was
		
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			really amazing
		
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			opportunity.
		
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			Wa'arikum Salam. Rahmatullah.
		
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			Hey, Dari. Hope you're doing well.
		
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			And it was a it was incredible trip
		
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			to go to, Andalus. This is my 3rd
		
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			time to be there and to see the
		
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			remnants, alhamdulillah,
		
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			of
		
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			Muslims and Muslim culture and Muslim people. One
		
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			of the things I encourage especially
		
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			young Muslims to do I was talking with
		
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			my daughter, my oldest daughter, a few days
		
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			ago, and I said to her, like,
		
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			I will do my best to support you
		
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			at least to take
		
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			some time out, like a gap year,
		
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			and to travel and see the Muslim world,
		
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			especially see Muslim history
		
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			go to places where Muslims,
		
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			contributed,
		
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			which is everywhere Muslims went honestly,
		
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			to society, into culture because it allows you
		
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			in many ways to experience
		
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			and live
		
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			what Muslims brought to the world
		
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			and to counter in your own mind and
		
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			within your own heart
		
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			the, distorted messages that we receive constantly about
		
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			Islam. We are a community that is not
		
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			only being military
		
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			militarily oppressed
		
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			as we see the genocide happening in Gaza
		
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			and other places.
		
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			We are oppressed on social media. If you
		
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			look at me, I'm extremely shadow banned.
		
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			I actually met with an employer employee from
		
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			Meta
		
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			who looked at my social media and said
		
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			to me, like, you are absolutely being shadow
		
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			banned
		
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			and were incapable of really helping me.
		
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			But also that's a test for us, right,
		
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			to make sure we're doing what we do
		
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			for the right reasons.
		
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			But I encourage people to travel and see
		
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			the Muslim world if you can,
		
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			especially places where there's
		
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			the presence of Muslim power till this day.
		
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			Very interesting story. Last year, I went to
		
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			Andalus to Harnedata,
		
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			and
		
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			I took an Uber,
		
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			to a course I was teaching.
		
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			And the driver, my Spanish is really poor.
		
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			I need to work on my Spanish.
		
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			But we began to have a conversation,
		
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			and I kept asking him about certain,
		
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			Muslim historical sites.
		
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			And
		
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			then he asked me if I was Muslim.
		
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			And I said, yes, alhamdulillah.
		
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			And he said something to me, will that
		
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			it gives me chills to this day.
		
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			He said, I wish the Muslims never left
		
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			Spain.
		
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			SubhanAllah.
		
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			He said it to me in Spanish,
		
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			and I was shocked
		
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			to have this conversation. Sometimes Allah
		
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			will bring people in your life,
		
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			as a means to strengthen you.
		
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			No one knows
		
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			Nobody knows really who the supporters of Allah
		
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			are. How people can come into your life
		
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			and strengthen you in moments that you might
		
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			need to be strengthened.
		
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			And so he said to me, like, I
		
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			wish that Muslims never left Spain.
		
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			And I said, subhanAllah, like, that's that's such
		
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			a powerful statement, like, why? And he said,
		
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			because
		
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			Islam, when it was in Andalusia,
		
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			it brought people together,
		
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			and it brought out the best in human
		
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			beings regardless of their race,
		
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			their language,
		
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			or their religion. He said this to me,
		
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			he was an Uber driver
		
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			in in Quran Alba, Quran Alta. And it
		
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			was like the first, like I just gotten
		
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			there.
		
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			The reason I say that is our history
		
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			is an incredibly beautiful history. And if we
		
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			we know that empire
		
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			and power
		
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			tends to write the stories.
		
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			Right? I remember being very young and trying
		
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			to find
		
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			information about Al Hajimatic Shabaz,
		
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			Rahim Ohola.
		
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			And initially,
		
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			as a 13 year old, 14 year old,
		
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			I was told he was a radical. I
		
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			I was told, you know, really, really bad
		
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			things about him. Even in my institution, my
		
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			high school, I did a book report on
		
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			Malcolm X my freshman year
		
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			in high school. And I remember the teacher
		
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			telling me, like,
		
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			this person is in you know, he's
		
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			he's not normal. He's he's unnerved. You know,
		
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			he died a very violent death and this
		
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			and this. And, actually, that,
		
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			you know, sort of
		
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			stoked the rebellion of being young. So that
		
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			made me even research him more. That's one
		
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			of the the things that led me to
		
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			Islam.
		
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			And I found out that Al Hajj Malik
		
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			Shabaz was brilliant, articulate,
		
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			caring,
		
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			disciplined,
		
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			but SubhanAllah, he was he was certainly about
		
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			the liberation of black people unapologetically.
		
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			I didn't see anything wrong with that personally.
		
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			So just
		
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			to set that sort of pace right, for
		
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			what I wanna talk with you about briefly,
		
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			and I'm super jet lagged, so forgive me,
		
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			if I'm a little bit, not as energetic
		
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			maybe as I usually am, Alhamdulillah. But I
		
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			just felt like this moment demanded,
		
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			some information from our history so that we
		
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			can
		
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			equip ourselves. Because
		
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			if empire is telling a story, then it's
		
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			his story.
		
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			And when empire is falling, it tends to
		
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			lie more about history, and it tends to
		
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			demonize
		
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			and dehumanize
		
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			those who it sees are in its way.
		
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			And one of the challenges that we have
		
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			in our
		
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			place in the world
		
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			is that we are the last vestiges.
		
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			We are the last vestiges of prophetic light
		
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			on the face of this earth.
		
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			We are a prophetic community, and that's one
		
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			of the reasons that that Zionists hate us.
		
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			Because we don't only speak to Zionists and
		
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			remind them about their abuse of power,
		
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			their genocidal behavior,
		
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			their mass murdering people, as well as the
		
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			American government doing the same
		
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			and supporting that.
		
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			We also are prophetic reminders of those communities
		
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			that they have strayed away from the true
		
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			message of their prophets.
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says that they are
		
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			envious of Nas. We are called Nas in
		
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			the Quran over and over again as Muslims.
		
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			Nas. He didn't say,
		
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			That they are jealous of the of the
		
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			Muslims.
		
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			They are jealous of and here, Alif Lam
		
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			means people who embody true humanity.
		
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			And Imam al Razi,
		
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			he says something very powerful that oftentimes
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala refers to the Muslims
		
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			as the humans
		
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			instead of Muslims
		
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			because it was through the teachings of Prophet
		
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			Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam
		
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			and through the instructions found in the Quran
		
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			and through the legacy of our noble ancestors,
		
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			that we are the embodiment
		
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			of true humanity. SubhanAllah, it's something beautiful in
		
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			the Quran.
		
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			What so Allah says,
		
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			like they are envious of the people, meaning
		
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			the Muslimen,
		
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			because Allah has given them from his blessing.
		
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			What has he given us? He's given us
		
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			the teachings
		
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			of the final messenger sent to humanity. And
		
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			by default, now we are the extension
		
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			of a prophetic reminder
		
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			that unapologetically
		
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			not only reminds people of their injustice,
		
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			their political corruption,
		
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			their their financial duplicity
		
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			in destroying the earth,
		
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			but we also remind them that they are
		
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			headed potentially to *
		
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			in the hereafter, if they continue continue
		
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			to rebel and turn away from the teachings
		
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			of the prophets. We are that.
		
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			And that is a lot of
		
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			that's a lot of accountability.
		
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			You know, that's why the prophet Sallallahu Alaihi
		
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			Wasallam, he said in Sahih Muslim and to
		
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			mushoo hada allahi
		
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			fil
		
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			ard. You Muslims are the witnesses of Allah
		
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			on the earth.
		
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			We are a reminder of Allah.
		
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			We are a reminder of people's true fitrah,
		
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			their true duty
		
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			to be better.
		
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			And so that puts us in a place
		
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			that's prophetic
		
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			in the sense that we are now vicariously
		
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			extensions of
		
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			prophetic guidance and people will not like that.
		
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			They People killed the prophets. They opposed the
		
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			prophets. They slayed the prophets. They put their
		
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			fingers in their ears
		
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			Like when you're reading the prophets being rejected
		
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			in the Quran, look at how we're being
		
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			rejected today
		
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			and locate
		
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			this moment as not only a a rejection
		
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			of basic human value
		
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			and political
		
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			responsibility,
		
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			but it is a rejection
		
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			of the last vestiges
		
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			of prophetic light on the face of the
		
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			earth, which is the Muslim community.
		
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			So there was an attack on a church,
		
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			in a synagogue just,
		
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			you know, recently
		
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			and a few around 76 days ago here
		
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			in America, there was a young man arrested
		
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			who was accused of teaming up with ISIS,
		
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			wanting to blow up churches in America. And
		
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			we know that this will be used and
		
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			it will be promoted
		
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			by Empire who controls the media
		
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			to tell a story
		
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			about who we are. It becomes
		
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			his story. And how do we undermine
		
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			attempts at empire and attempts at disbelief?
		
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			To undermine
		
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			our truth is to learn our truth. Like,
		
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			one of the reasons that we should learn
		
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			is not only to be devote
		
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			devout worshipers to Allah,
		
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			but also that we own our narrative.
		
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			Nobody can tell us who we are.
		
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			Nobody can tell us who we are because
		
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			we know who we are.
		
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			And so I thought it was important to
		
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			share with you
		
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			some historical information which is factual, which is
		
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			collected by Muslim historians,
		
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			of of earlier times
		
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			about
		
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			how the Salaf
		
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			interacted with other religious communities in particular,
		
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			the context here at churches,
		
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			but also
		
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			to give you this information that you can
		
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			become a conduit of the true story,
		
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			the true narrative.
		
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			I think also it's important to understand that
		
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			if this was ISIS,
		
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			if this was the pseudo heretical Jihadist groups,
		
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			It's interesting to see
		
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			how they are constantly trying to destabilize relationships
		
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			with people who are sort of
		
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			aligned with our struggles.
		
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			It's interesting that they're not involved in defending
		
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			Palestine. They're not involved in defending the the
		
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			Wheeler community in China. They're not involved in
		
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			alleviating the challenges in Sudan or Congo,
		
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			but they go and attack people
		
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			if it is them
		
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			who actually are somewhat our allies.
		
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			And
		
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			I had an with Isis. Some of you
		
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			may not be aware of this around 12
		
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			years ago,
		
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			there was,
		
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			the day after
		
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			our brother, Alhamdulillah,
		
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			Muhammad Ali Alhamu
		
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			after he after he died.
		
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			I was traveling
		
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			and I received a unrestricted
		
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			or unknown call on my phone and it
		
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			kept coming like it was so early in
		
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			the morning. I was in Seattle
		
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			and I picked up the phone. It was
		
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			the FBI, which is very strange. It wasn't
		
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			the early 2000s. Those of us who were
		
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			being, you know, myself and others pulled off
		
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			planes
		
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			and going through,
		
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			incredible state intervention here in America when it
		
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			came to Islam and Muslims.
		
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			And they said we need to talk to
		
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			you because ISIS has now put a bounty
		
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			on your head.
		
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			A $100,000
		
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			bounty on my head and on doctor Yasser
		
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			Badi, my friend, my brother. May Allah protect
		
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			him, Hamdulillah.
		
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			And I found that very strange, like of
		
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			all the people that ISIS would want to
		
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			kill
		
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			or to harm, I could just use the
		
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			$100,000.
		
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			Like, if they could just give me the
		
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			$100,000
		
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			to build my school, like, that would have
		
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			been great, but they actually put a threat
		
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			on my life.
		
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			And that was my interaction with ISIS.
		
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			And when I asked,
		
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			the FBI came to my home where I
		
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			lived at that time, they examined my windows.
		
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			They they were concerned that someone was going
		
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			to try to snipe me through my window.
		
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			None of you know these things. This also
		
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			happened with the far right in America at
		
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			even a more
		
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			aggressive level after Fox News attacked me, with
		
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			Megyn Kelly. And that's why I worry when
		
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			I see now Muslims suddenly wanting to jump
		
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			on board with neo conservatives. Don't forget that
		
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			neo conservatives
		
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			tried to kill some of the people in
		
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			your community and threaten them. And also don't
		
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			forget that neoconservatives
		
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			are are, especially with young Muslim men, are
		
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			causing them to focus on what
		
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			gives those neoconservatives
		
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			a way out.
		
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			And that way out is that we don't
		
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			hold them accountable
		
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			for their military exercises in the Muslim world.
		
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			Their
		
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			continued
		
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			marriage with
		
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			evangelical Zionism
		
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			and Christian Zionism.
		
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			What they've done to the Muslim world through
		
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			Dick Cheney, through Paul Wolfowitz, through Bush 1,
		
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			Bush 2, and now suddenly we're gonna forget
		
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			all that because they make us feel like
		
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			men.
		
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			That in itself
		
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			is another conversation that we hope to have
		
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			in the future.
		
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			How the red pill movement
		
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			has
		
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			pushed
		
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			in a way some Muslims to be blinded
		
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			by ideas of Kafir masculinity
		
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			instead of being prophetic in the masculinity,
		
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			and who are too young to remember
		
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			what those people did to our community. Those
		
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			people need to repent before we can work
		
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			with them. Not to give the neoliberals,
		
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			a pass. They are also warmongers and crazy
		
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			and absolutely insane,
		
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			but we are a prophetic community that rest
		
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			between the extremes of both.
		
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			So I wanted to share with you, Alhamdulillah,
		
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			last time history, and and let me add
		
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			to the red pill Muslim issue,
		
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			that one of the things that it has
		
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			successfully done,
		
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			it it has militarized
		
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			the Muslim woman
		
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			in the eyes of some Muslim men,
		
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			and it has made them enemies
		
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			of Muslim masculinity.
		
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			But if those young men were to go
		
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			and study the statements of Sayid Muhammad Sallallahu
		
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			Alaihi Wasallam, the statements in the books of
		
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			filk because filk means to understand.
		
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			Right? To understand what? How understand how to
		
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			stay prophetic
		
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			in a world
		
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			which is contradictory and falling apart. So filk
		
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			is the fem of how to be an
		
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			avid in the state of tremendous
		
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			existential pressure
		
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			and to turn your angst
		
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			to people
		
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			here, Muslim women who have been the consummate
		
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			object of colonialism,
		
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			of imperialism,
		
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			of military engagement.
		
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			The destruction of Palestine is a destruction of
		
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			of men for sure, and mothers and children.
		
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			But to now create within the Muslim community,
		
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			a group of young men who are constantly
		
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			frustrated, angry at Muslim women now has made
		
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			them inadvertently
		
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			team anti Islam. They are misdirecting
		
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			their anger
		
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			at Muslim sisters, where Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
		
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			says,
		
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			Muslim men and women should be supporters of
		
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			one another. We advise one another, we hold
		
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			each other accountable, but we don't militarize one.
		
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			We don't weaponize the place of women in
		
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			our lives
		
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			just because of our own insecurities. So before
		
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			I get and I apologize for going on
		
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			this rant, but this is something that needs
		
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			to be unpacked
		
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			That
		
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			Muslim women are allies and Muslim women had
		
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			to be careful with feminism,
		
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			which makes the Muslim man an enemy and
		
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			locates the Muslim man as a consummate enemy.
		
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			And now you can see how neoliberalism
		
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			and neoconservativism
		
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			are playing Muslims against each other. As Malcolm
		
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			warned us,
		
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			the wolf
		
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			and the fox.
		
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			What we have to do is recenter ourselves
		
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			as a prophetic community. They'll hold each other
		
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			accountable when we're wrong,
		
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			but remembers that at the end of the
		
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			day
		
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			at the end of the day, we are
		
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			each other's allies. If we are truly believers,
		
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			We will not weaponize one another. Extreme feminism
		
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			and and extreme neoconservatism
		
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			have taken some Muslims and made them enemies
		
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			of each other based on the gender assumptions
		
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			of the broader disbelievers society,
		
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			not on the teachings of Al Islam.
		
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			Packed into that now is history. And
		
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			what I wanted to share with you is
		
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			how the set of the early Muslims who
		
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			are our example,
		
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			who are our exemplaries,
		
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			who we should follow, and the salaf
		
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			is not this restrictive
		
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			understanding that's being packaged and pushed on Muslims.
		
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			The salaf
		
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			are people
		
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			who understood the Deen and lived the Deen.
		
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			And it's from them that we find our
		
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			vitality
		
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			and our resurgence and our strength.
		
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			So in the face of this attack that
		
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			happened, and I mentioned earlier, it's interesting how
		
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			if it was these jihadist groups,
		
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			they are always being used to attack Muslims
		
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			or to attack the allies of Muslims, but
		
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			they're nowhere to be found.
		
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			Nowhere to be found on the issues of
		
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			Sudan, the Congo, the we have our community,
		
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			and and now of course, we all are
		
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			very aware of what's going on in Palestine,
		
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			needed
		
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			strategically.
		
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			So Alhamdulillah,
		
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			I collected some some things together as I
		
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			was flying back from Andalus as I saw
		
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			what was going on and I wanted to
		
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			share them with you just so that you
		
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			can equip yourself and I hope that this
		
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			information is beneficial. I ask also that you
		
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			share this information. As I mentioned earlier, I
		
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			met with a meta employee,
		
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			and we noticed this in 2016,
		
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			2017
		
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			where lives went from 20,000, 10000 people to
		
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			20 people to 30 people in, like, 4
		
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			or 5 days.
		
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			And I was told by this meta employee
		
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			that I am shadow banned. Alhamdulillah, that's an
		
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			honor. It's nothing compared to what people, our
		
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			brothers and sisters
		
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			are suffering with overseas. They're not worried about
		
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			being a shadow banned. They're trying to find
		
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			a shadow to protect themselves from the heat.
		
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			So Alhamdulillah, that for me is an honor.
		
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			So I wanted to share some information with
		
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			you about how the early Muslims particularly in
		
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			Egypt, who I lived,
		
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			for 7 years,
		
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			engaged,
		
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			other religious communities. We know the Quran
		
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			specifically
		
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			grants people the right to believe in whatever
		
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			they want to believe in. Allah says,
		
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			Whoever wants to believe, let them believe. Whoever
		
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			wants to disbelieve, let them disbelieve.
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says, la ikura hafideen,
		
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			there's no compulsion in religion. You're not allowed
		
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			to force somebody into religion. And even Suratul
		
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			Kahfirun,
		
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			even though the message is harsh,
		
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			and it is a prophetic reminder to those
		
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			people to to turn to Allah and Tawhid,
		
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			la aburuma ta aburun.
		
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			I'm not gonna worship what you worship.
		
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			And you, you're not gonna worship what I
		
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			worship. That's what it is. That's just how
		
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			it is.
		
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			And we find in our books of theology,
		
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			the predominant opinion is that no one can
		
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			be forced to become Muslim, but people become
		
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			Muslim. The first obligation
		
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			is the to think
		
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			freely. That's why we have a great axiom,
		
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			alhuriyyaqabarash
		
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			Sharia
		
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			that freedom comes before Sharia.
		
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			That freedom is before Tawhid. The mind has
		
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			to accept,
		
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			and the heart has to digest, and the
		
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			limbs have to submit
		
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			and then someone Alhamdulillah is Muslim Alhamdulillah.
		
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			I mean, that's why even Asher,
		
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			in his famous text in Firkhe says, you
		
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			know,
		
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			from Andalus to great scholar. He says in
		
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			his famous famous poem that the first obligation
		
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			is to think, to think about Allah, to
		
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			think about the messenger of Allah salallahu alaihi
		
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			wasalam
		
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			and Sheikhar Marzooki Al Mariki Al Azharhi says
		
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			waalam
		
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			You have to know first and foremost that
		
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			the first obligation is to think to know.
		
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			Allah
		
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			Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. That's why Allah says, inshallah
		
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			to Muhammad, Faram An Nahu La ilaha illallah.
		
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			You must know.
		
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			You must learn that there's nothing
		
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			worthy of worship except Allah.
		
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			So this information, I encourage you to even
		
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			write it down if you can. I'm recording
		
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			it. I'll post it on my YouTube page
		
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			as well, which I'm recording it as well,
		
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			and
		
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			also here on Instagram.
		
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			About
		
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			this question that I phrased it as a
		
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			question so I'll answer it in that way.
		
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			I'm looking at my notes here and that
		
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			is, you know, that I did live in
		
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			Egypt and people have I've actually had family
		
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			members ask me this question. Is it true
		
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			that Islam oppressed Christians there and destroyed their
		
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			churches?
		
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			And we can compare the Sadaaf
		
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			to people who claim to be religiously adherent.
		
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			We can can compare the early actions of
		
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			the first Muslims
		
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			to those people who claim to adhere to
		
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			the ideology that they've crafted for themselves. I'm
		
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			not talking about Sadafis.
		
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			I'm talking about Jihadis
		
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			and others
		
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			who
		
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			have turned their understanding of what the Sadaq
		
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			mean into a myopic
		
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			sort of a narrative of death, blood, and
		
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			destruction.
		
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			So is it true that Islam oppressed Christians
		
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			there in Egypt and destroyed their churches? So
		
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			my answer is that that is incorrect.
		
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			And historians note that the most that most
		
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			this is very important
		
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			that most of the ancient churches in Cairo,
		
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			and I saw them when I was there
		
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			in Cairo,
		
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			and the synagogues
		
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			were built during the time of the Sahaba.
		
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			SubhanAllah.
		
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			So just just like let that sit in
		
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			and compare it to now the ethnic cleansing
		
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			of what's going on in Gaza,
		
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			And how there will be people that will
		
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			use
		
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			the actions of these lunatic
		
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			Hadeji type people
		
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			to justify, which they shouldn't do,
		
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			the pain and suffering that they are enacting
		
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			on Muslims in Palestine, but even Christians in
		
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			Palestine. We see Christian ministers in Palestine continue
		
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			to preach and tell people, listen, we're being
		
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			decimated. Our churches are being destroyed. 1 of
		
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			the oldest churches,
		
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			in the world was was destroyed,
		
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			by the genocidal maniacs.
		
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			But it's important for you to remember what
		
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			I'm saying now.
		
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			That and you can use this as a
		
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			sound bite.
		
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			That most of the ancient churches in Cairo
		
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			were built
		
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			during the era
		
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			of the companions
		
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			of the Messenger of Allah,
		
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			sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wasalam,
		
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			such as the church of Saint Mark in
		
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			Alexandria,
		
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			which was built between the years 39 after
		
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			Hijri to 65 after Hijri.
		
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			This is who we
		
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			are. This is who we are. We call
		
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			people to the hack,
		
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			and we are passionate about the truth,
		
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			but we do not violate
		
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			the the human core of other people if
		
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			we are truly prophetic
		
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			in our dawah,
		
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			in our call. And this is the way
		
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			most Alhamdulillah, Muslims are. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah.
		
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			We are the embodiment of prophetic
		
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			character.
		
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			So most of the resurgence
		
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			because it's important to remember that when Muslims
		
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			came into, to Egypt and to muscle to
		
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			Fostat and other places,
		
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			the Egyptians wanted them to come, especially the
		
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			Akhbate, the Coptic people because they were being
		
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			so oppressed
		
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			by the people that had occupied them until
		
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			that time. So they actually
		
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			joined Muslims
		
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			as is the same thing that happened in
		
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			Andalus, they joined with Muslims.
		
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			The inquisition that happened in Spain doesn't end
		
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			until the end of 18th century. People think
		
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			that it happened in one day in 14/92,
		
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			and that was it. No. Because
		
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			the society of Andalus
		
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			did not want Muslims to leave.
		
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			It's very important to note this. So
		
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			the the majority of what are now known
		
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			as ancient churches
		
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			in in Al Qahira
		
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			were built in Cairo
		
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			during the era of the Sahaba ruling
		
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			Egypt.
		
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			That's enough. Like like, that's all we should
		
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			have to say.
		
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			The Sahaba are our light. The Sahaba are
		
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			example.
		
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			The Sahaba are the people who were nearest
		
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			to Sayna Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam.
		
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			Ibn Hazm says that one second
		
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			of a Sahabi's life
		
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			with the messenger of Allah is better than
		
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			our entire life.
		
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			SubhanAllah,
		
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			one second
		
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			to be with the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa
		
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			sallam. That's why Sayid Nabila
		
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			Radiallahu Anhu when he was dying, he said,
		
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			Tomorrow tomorrow I will see the prophet. I
		
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			will see the companions.
		
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			Sallallahu alaihi wa sama radiAllahu anhu.
		
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			So
		
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			this is a historic fact. I'm gonna repeat
		
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			it again
		
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			that most of the ancient churches in Cairo
		
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			were built during the era of the companions,
		
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			especially when they were ruling
		
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			in Cairo.
		
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			Such, and I'm giving you one example, you
		
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			can look it up, the Church of Saint
		
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			Mark in Alexandria
		
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			between the years 39 after Hijri
		
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			and 65 after Hijri.
		
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			During the governorship
		
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			of Muslim,
		
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			even Muhalid
		
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			over Egypt which happened again like around 47
		
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			to 68 after Hijri,
		
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			hijri, the first church was built in full
		
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			spot, which is the old area of Cairo
		
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			where there are still a huge number of
		
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			Christians living
		
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			by Jamil Al Amr
		
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			Jamil Al Amrul, the Jamil Al Amrul Nu'as.
		
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			Still there.
		
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			The first church was built under Muslim, even
		
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			Muhalit,
		
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			in the Herat Arum.
		
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			Additionally,
		
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			Abdul Aziz bin Marwan, when he established the
		
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			city of Hilwan,
		
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			allowed the construction of a church there and
		
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			permitted some bishops to build 2 monasteries.
		
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			This is the era of the Salaf. I'm
		
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			not a fan of these leaders that I'm
		
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			mentioning. They have their shortcomings, but the era
		
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			was the era of the Salaf.
		
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			The renowned historian
		
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			Al Al Maqrizi,
		
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			he mentions in his book and I can
		
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			give you the citation
		
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			Anawah is wa ittivar azikr
		
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			bihitatwal
		
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			athar volume 4 page 374
		
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			from the dark quote, but Al Aniya print.
		
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			He gives numerous examples of the churches of
		
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			of Christians.
		
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			Then he says something. He says, all of
		
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			these churches
		
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			that he lists
		
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			were newly built during the Islamic
		
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			era without
		
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			any dispute.
		
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			And he's talking about the time of the
		
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			sunnah.
		
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			There were some churches that were destroyed by
		
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			some overzealous people that's known,
		
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			and they were rebuilt
		
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			by the Muslim
		
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			political power, you know, at that time,
		
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			they were commanded to be rebuilt.
		
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			SubhanAllah, you compare that to Al Andalus where
		
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			they destroyed after they made a treaty with
		
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			the people of Granata, they came, they destroyed
		
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			everything, they destroyed
		
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			the Masjid, then they built the church on
		
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			the Masjid next to Meghan Rambala. And they
		
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			actually made the Muslims who stayed pay for
		
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			the church to be rebuilt.
		
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			Compare
		
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			us to others.
		
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			What does the song
		
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			say? They're not like us.
		
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			They're not like us. SubhanAllah
		
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			they're not like us.
		
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			We are prophetic.
		
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			He told me, like, the Muslim is different
		
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			than other than other people. We don't have
		
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			to be like them.
		
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			We don't want to be like them. We
		
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			want to be prophetic.
		
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			Abu'am al Kindi in his book, alwulat al
		
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			Qudat,
		
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			again printed by Darukutba Al Miya,
		
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			page number 100. He says, when Musa ibn
		
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			Isa was appointed
		
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			as the governor of Egypt by Amirul Munin
		
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			Harun Rashid. So this is in the Abbasi
		
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			period. The Amuis fall around 132.
		
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			So it's still this is very early on
		
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			when the Abbasis take over.
		
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			Harun Rashid, he permitted the Christians to build
		
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			the churches that Adi ibn Soleiman
		
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			had destroyed.
		
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			All these churches were rebuilt with the consultation
		
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			of 2 very important people.
		
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			Alayth.
		
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			Well, Alayth is one of the Mushtaheed Imams.
		
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			Alayth is one of we have 4 MedHabs
		
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			now that survived.
		
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			But Sayna Imam Alayth radiAllahu anhu. He was
		
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			at that time considered,
		
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			ibn Saadi was considered
		
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			like Malik is to us Abu Hanifa, Imam
		
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			Ahmed Saeedi, Imam Shafi'i,
		
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			Al Tabari,
		
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			you name it. Imam Zaid, Imam Ja'far, Asadiq.
		
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			He was seen in that way. So this
		
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			construction of churches in Egypt not only happened
		
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			because of political power,
		
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			but it was through the cons consultation
		
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			of the ulama.
		
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			And Abdullah ibn,
		
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			Laha'iyah,
		
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			who also
		
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			also forgive me. I'm so tired from jet
		
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			lag, was consulted about this and these ulama,
		
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			they they did not have a problem with
		
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			this.
		
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			In fact, the quote of one of them
		
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			is that this is part of our the
		
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			natural development of the country. Why? Because the
		
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			country has different citizens.
		
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			There are different citizens in the country. And
		
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			that's why when you go
		
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			to Palestine,
		
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			the the how they have tried to portray
		
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			the Palestinians
		
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			in in dehumanize them as as they've done
		
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			wherever they've gone to justify.
		
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			They project their inhumanity on others, so then
		
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			they can treat them in ways which are
		
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			not human.
		
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			But if you go to Palestine,
		
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			up until recently,
		
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			it wasn't the Muslims that destroyed the churches.
		
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			It was the Zionists and the Secularists
		
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			who destroyed the churches.
		
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			SubhanAllah. It wasn't Muslims who closed the synagogues
		
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			and churches in Tunis.
		
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			It was the secular government of Tunis that
		
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			did this. It's very important to note this
		
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			historically.
		
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			So Abu Amr
		
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			al al Kindi and his book, page number
		
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			100, he says when Musa, ibn Isa was
		
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			appointed as the governor of Egypt
		
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			by Harun Rashid,
		
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			he permitted the Christians to rebuild and build
		
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			their churches.
		
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			That rebuild the churches that Adi ibn Soleiman
		
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			had destroyed and to build new churches.
		
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			With the consultation
		
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			of Alayth ibn Saad, who was a Mujtahir
		
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			imam, Rahim Ohola,
		
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			and others, who said this is part of
		
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			the natural development
		
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			of our country, of our people. And they
		
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			argued that most of the churches in Egypt
		
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			were built during,
		
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			Kendi. He says, most of the churches in
		
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			Egypt were built during the time
		
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			of the early Islamic era,
		
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			in the time specifically
		
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			of the Sahaba
		
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			and their students.
		
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			So Alhamdulillah, I hope that this information will
		
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			serve you. As I said earlier, it's very
		
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			important to learn
		
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			And it's interesting
		
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			why is Instagram,
		
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			TikTok, and Facebook promoting certain people and shadow
		
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			banning shadow banning
		
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			other people,
		
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			keeping out information, keeping out mediating information, responsible
		
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			information
		
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			because they understand
		
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			the game that if you promote
		
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			lunatics,
		
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			then unfortunately,
		
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			other lunatics will justify treating people like lunatics.
		
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			So just to recap, Alhamdulillah,
		
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			it's nice to see everyone. Shalom. I'm gonna
		
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			try to do lives more often Alhamdulillah.
		
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			That this idea that, you know, destroying churches,
		
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			synagogues, destroying people's houses of worship,
		
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			you know, in synagogue or my teachers from
		
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			the president is Christian.
		
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			They have no problem with that. And and
		
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			they continue to to choose
		
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			over time. In Lebanon, you see the negotiate
		
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			even after a a a devastating
		
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			civil war.
		
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			Right? You you have even some some great,
		
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			poets
		
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			who are not Muslim,
		
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			who composed poetry about the prophet praising
		
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			the messenger of Allah.
		
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			Sallallahu alaihi wasallam. That harmony is an enemy
		
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			to the world.
		
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			That humanity is an enemy to power.
		
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			Our collective
		
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			unity
		
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			and to be able to function
		
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			as
		
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			agents of prophecy that hold people accountable
		
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			is a threat to the agents of of
		
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			catastrophe.
		
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			But first,
		
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			the question was it specifically I'm talking about
		
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			Egypt where I lived for a number of
		
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			years and studied Alhamdulillah in high school, my
		
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			my my university days
		
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			were were the churches destroyed. And I mentioned
		
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			that that's incorrect. Doesn't agree with the historical
		
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			record that most of the churches actually were
		
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			built according to Maqrizi and others
		
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			during the time of the Sahaba
		
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			and under the time of the Abbasi Empire.
		
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			So I hope Alhamdulillah that this will serve
		
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			you all well this information.
		
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			We ask Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala to allow
		
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			us to stay firm on the truth,
		
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			to call to Tawhid
		
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			and to be
		
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			in alignment with prophetic
		
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			morality.