Suhaib Webb – Bound God Zarrq’s Foundations of Sufism Part 7

Suhaib Webb
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The importance of generational authority, unity, and the one thing important to the Muslim community is discussed, including the book HamGeneration, the importance of not losing faith in oneself, and remorse, fear, and balance in order to avoid extremism. The speakers emphasize the importance of worship, personal development, and managing a blended family. The importance of community and being an ally to what's right is emphasized, as it is impossible to replicate what is already happening.
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Alaihi Salam so don't get sad about it.

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So he unpacks this very powerful principle

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about what we would call like

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generational authority.

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Even converts, you know, sometimes you're running people.

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Well, brother, I converted 50 years ago, so

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you need to.

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Okay. I need to. I get it. You

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converted 50 years ago. I got love for

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you, but you might be wrong and I

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might be right.

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Like there's a reality that that you want

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to create generational authority.

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That doesn't mean that we don't respect the

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sunnah. We don't look at the sunnah for

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it as an interpretive

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lens, of course,

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but what he's saying is that should not

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exist to the point where you feel now

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as a Muslim community in 2019

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that you have no hope.

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Because you still follow

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the best of creation.

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And that's why even Arabi, Sheikh Al Akbar,

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great shave, enfutahat al Nakia,

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he said, I'm just gonna give you an

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appetizer for the next one. He said,

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we need to do longer than early in

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the morning I think. Said after I liked

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it nice to see. He said

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very beautifully,

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he said, I came to Mecca.

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He said, I found the most ignorant human

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being I've ever seen in my life.

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Even out of me man, Shekel Akbar.

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His student said, who's that?

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He said, I found a man with a

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lot of followers.

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Again, the neophyte.

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Right? Excited, passionate, charismatic leader with a lot

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of followers. Sometimes people like weird things because

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they're weird.

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Right? Can't this be normal?

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I had a trainer one time tell me

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there's a gym down the street. I used

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to go to called Vitagem.

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He's a good he's in an article. He's

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a cool guy. He said, man,

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if I wanna, like, keep people as clients,

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I give them, like, powders and stuff to

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take you.

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I tell him, yeah, man. Take this powder.

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It's gonna help you get abs,

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and they believe me.

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I was like, do those powers hold on,

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man. Do those powders actually give you abs?

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He's like, no, man. They don't.

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You just gotta eat. Right? And live a

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normal life and sleep 8 hours a day

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and drink a lot of water. I was

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like why don't you tell them that? He

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said it's not spooky.

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They want spooky.

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It's strange.

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Don't look for spooky,

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look for practical. So even out of his

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head, I saw this guy had a lot

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of followers, they were making them fall off,

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and people were telling him, man, this shit,

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yo, this shit is on. This shit is

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on. Right? In our language.

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He goes to him you're from the suburbs

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like the sheikh is amazing.

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He goes to him,

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meets the sheikh,

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introduces himself,

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starts to talk to him and then he

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said I realized he knew absolutely very little.

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He was a fake

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but he could talk, he could he could

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spit.

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So I asked him a question and this

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is why I concluded

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he is the most ignorant human being I've

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ever met.

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They said what is it? He said he

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told me there's no good in the Ummah

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of Mohammed.

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That was his call. Muslims are lost. They're

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all straining.

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Don't fall for that dua.

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Inspire me to die.

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In a zombie cop of tonight's Sunday, Walking

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Dead, in the zombie apocalypse. Right? A can

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of Chili's caviar.

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I paint the worst picture in the world.

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It's easy for me now to be your

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savior.

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He said, he told me there's no good

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left in the Ummah of Mohammed

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and their alaihis salam, and there's no good

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left on earth.

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So the people were like despondent and broken.

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And ibn Arabi said hada a Sheykh, this

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is the most ignorant

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Ahmad, excuse my language, that's what he said

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I've ever seen.

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So the last principle like that he talks

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about is he unpacks community

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is no matter what you are,

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chronologically

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or historically,

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don't lose confidence.

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And he says things like, if you lose

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confidence in yourself,

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then realize that a lot is greater

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than your insecurity.

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Like he takes you in that direction, and

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then he begins to talk about

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unity,

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Muslim unity.

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Like do we really have time to be

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fighting shias?

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Like, yeah. It's like it's like Sunday service

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on here. You know what I mean? You

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passing on the pot in a minute.

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Thank you, brother. Love it, man. But we

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don't have time for this. But we've been

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okeydoke by so many foreign governments in our

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own that Sunnis we fight ourselves.

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Like, let alone them.

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So he starts to talk about how do

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you frame unity without uniformity?

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Like how do you frame the idea of

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plurality

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rooted

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in the one goal?

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Is God in the sunnah?

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So we'll talk about that,

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inshallah the next time we come with the

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sunnah DC. Hamdulillah. Right? It's a very beautiful

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book. Probably gonna read the translation and get

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lost,

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because

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even as Adam and it's not it's Maqada

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that you say, like Maqada like

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like hard cumbersome, you know. He's a brilliant

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writer, but he's writing per he's writing like

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a lawyer right now. So just imagine, you

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pick up something in English and try to

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read it. It's written by a lawyer, Usama.

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You know, like, I understand that.

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Oh, yeah. Not a lawyer. Yes, me. Yes,

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me left. That's me as a lawyer.

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Right? Legalese is hard for us to follow.

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So he's writing the legalese, he's talking about

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tasolef and doing it. So it's very difficult.

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The translation is a great translation. We'll get

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it to you inshallah. I'll post it on

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my Facebook blog or something from a guy

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from England he did as a PhD it's

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like amazing, but it's deep.

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But it's nice, like,

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and and it'll be a little different than

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the order that we went through here. But

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what did we talk about today? We talked

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about attachments. Right? Talked about what's important. Talked

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about wellness.

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Talked about the heart, and how does the

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science of the heart imagine that process. It

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imagines it at first as wellness

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being intrinsically tied to worship,

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and worship is tied to sincerity, and we

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ended up with sincerity.

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And sincerity is based on what? I do

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what pleases what I claim to want. It's

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very simple. So remembrance,

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worship,

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balance,

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fear,

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hope.

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Right? Avoiding extremes.

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We talked about signs of being in a

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Muslim cult, man. There's Muslim cults in America.

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Be careful

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because I've seen people come out of those

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cults.

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You know, it's it's it's powerful when you

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say my religion is the truth,

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but when people have bad experiences with the

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truth, that can be debilitating.

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And then he moves into talking about fear,

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hope. Those two wings that help us stay

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balanced, moderation,

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avoiding extremism,

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Then he talks about the purpose of worship

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bringing us together, helping us find wholeness and

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worship as an opportunity, rooting things and having

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a relationship with Quran and sunnah. And then

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he talks about how to engage the heart,

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protect it from showing off. When people come

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like, I I would leave prayer, but I

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don't want people to think something about me.

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Well, you're doing it for the

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people.

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I'm not gonna leave prayer because I don't

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want people well, you're also doing that for

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the people. So in sincerity, it's not to

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do or

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do or not to do for people. It's

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to do or not to do for God

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and not to see people. How do you

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get to that point? How do I get

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to that point? By understanding Allah's transcendence.

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Everything else is secondary. Transcendent becomes what I

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look at, what I'm focused on. I worship

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God as though I what?

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I see

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him. As the Hudson, now you understand why

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is this? Sending them up in the sand

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to get and that doesn't mean I'm not

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like, well, I don't feed my kids. Why?

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Because I see God. That's some nonsense.

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That's not what he means.

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When I see God in life, I'm gonna

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be more

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active, more concerned, better person, more empathetic.

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Who's not merciful doesn't receive mercy.

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Be good as God was to you. So

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he talks about how to repel that and

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then at the bottom he gives this this

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beautiful example

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about

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exposure

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and being reclusive,

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how those things leave that to God.

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Next time, inshaAllah, we come back

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he dedicates a portion of the text to

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knowledge. It's very interesting because we live in

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a time, especially here in America,

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terms, terminology

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are really like hotly contested.

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So he talks about how terms are just

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constructions and you give them constructions we should

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be patient with each other. We should not

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just like flip out. Someone says something inadvertently

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wrong or someone is misinformed and they make

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a mistake we amputate them from our lives.

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No man,

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People make mistakes. And then from there he

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talks about what is sufism. His definition is

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sufism. I can give it to you now

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so it'll help you. He said, husto towaju

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eat Allah is to turn to God in

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a righteous way.

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Meaning through Islam.

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And then he talks about the community and

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differences. How we work together. How we should

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build, how we should respect differences, how we

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should see different passions, not everybody wants to

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do the same thing, not everybody's an activist,

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not everybody's a scholar, not everybody's a saint,

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not everybody's a fashion designer, not everybody's an

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IT person, not everybody's community support,

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customer service. Right? Everybody has a different role

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play.

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So he talks about how a true spiritual

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saint

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appreciates all that and sees it and says,

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They don't feel insecure and threatened.

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They feel

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blessed

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by all the people around them as being

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blessings of Allah, seeing Allah, Yesen.

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Close talking inshaAllah. We have to leave by

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7, but I'm gonna turn the mic over

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to

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Busema,

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who's not a lawyer.

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Alright. So we can do, like what was

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that, Lauren?

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Alright. We got it. Alright. So we can

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do a little q and a, and then

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Injala will start the conclusion.

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Now you guys can ask questions.

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Yes, sir.

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I mean, I think so he's saying about,

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you know, the call out culture and how

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people may

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people may actually even be wrong. Right? They

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may be really wrong or inadvertently wrong, but

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usually that's rooted in not understanding, not knowing

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for most people. So he's saying is there

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like a better way? Yeah. Obviously, the best

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way is to reach out to the person

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and like know them. Like, I should know

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someone.

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Honestly, I when I think about conversion,

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some of the stuff I experienced as an

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early convert, it's incredible I'm still Muslim. Like,

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first time I went to the mosque I

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was told like why you dress this way?

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Do you know how weird it is

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to go to someone you don't know like,

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on 14th Street right now in front of

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busboys and you're like, yo, why you dressed

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that way? And you don't even know them?

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Hey, that's really weird, man.

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Like, I was like, why is this dude

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asking about why I'm dressed? He's like, brother,

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you need to wear a thobe.

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I was like, what's a thobe? He's like,

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it's it's this long dress, man,

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that you need to wear. So this brother

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went in his car and gave me a

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thobe. I went into the restroom,

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put on thobe, and came home, and my

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father was like, we gotta talk.

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Like like,

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he didn't know me. That created problems in

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my house.

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So the first thing is, like, I should

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know the person unless it's, like, really egregious.

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Right? That's different.

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Like,

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the kind of ratchet

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trivial

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things. Right?

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I should know the person.

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Then if I know the person, I know

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how to get in touch with the person.

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I know how to get in touch with

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the person, I can contact them privately

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and have a conversation.

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Like the call out culture is needed at

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times because

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honestly our nonprofits don't give people a way

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to find justice. Like that's why

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some of that's happening.

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People don't feel supported.

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At the same time, the prophet sallallahu alaihi

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wasalam, when there was a man who was

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drunk, came to his mosque

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and people began in Sahih Bukhari in Germany

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began to abuse this man verbally, call our

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culture.

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The prophet said,

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don't help shaitan destroy him.

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Like, is there redemption

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for people in Islam?

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So if I'm going to rebuke someone,

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one of the foundations

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usually

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in Islamic activism

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is there is a door of redemption.

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When Abu Sufyan and his wife

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did what they did, Abu Zubillah.

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Allah still says in

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the

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Quran, If they truly repent and they truly

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become better, they're Muslim.

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Even though

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they're bad people,

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redemption is there for them.

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I have a problem like

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we may be rebuking people in a way

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that goes beyond what religion is saying, man.

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And

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then we push them out.

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And then we create that. I am.

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You know, sister

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in Virginia, I forgot her name,

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who now become like ostracized and being ostracized

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leads to like being an enemy and being

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an enemy then it just continues to grow.

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So I think first it's like, man I

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should know people

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and then have a conversation

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and then like

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establish some kind of understanding. Maybe I'm wrong

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too. Like if I don't talk to them

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I might be wrong.

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So if I talk to them, I may

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learn.

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You know what I mean? I think that

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personal that online sounds

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weird.

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No?

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Talk to people. Eunice.

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Salim. Really love that you're here.

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You

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got a job, bro. I got you. But

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what I did is I can You should

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talk to me first before you call me.

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Even though

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when it's just alone, it's simpler. But then

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when it's like, when you come into a

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group, with a blended family, you can come

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into a place, it's very

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that to them, and then but then on

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the next day, when we showed up, it's

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like, hey. You you belong here? And that's

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like, it's strange. Like, I mean, my relationship

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to a restaurant decided to either I'll give

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a flip up. And then but then on

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the next day, when we showed up, it's

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like, hey. You you belong here? And that's

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like, it's strange.

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So we don't have to be all alike.

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You know? If the lack is mercy, what

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happened with so everything you say validate my

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thought,

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much

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of a

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message. But then but then I want to

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make that for myself,

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But they're not they're not as convenient to

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get to. You know? So

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it's it's it's not

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but my my question will be,

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you know, and it and it's different group

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of people

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all the time. And improving that, it's like,

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it was like, how how am I gonna

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keep doing this until they I think my

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parents, not even children are grown. They have

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to this have to be

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It's always you're always so passionate. I'm done,

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man. But tucked into what he said was

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trying to manage a blended family.

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You said it really quickly. Yeah. But I'm

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in a blended family. Right? Where you go

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to certain communities and you're 2 different

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ethnicities.

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Yeah. Yeah. So if I could just quickly

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just I think I got what you're coming

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with.

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First of all, like,

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the the word Ummah is the outcome of

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the deliberate effort.

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Umah isn't something that just happens like we

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think that. We read Quran and hadith and

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we think well the ummah was established so

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we've been like ummah riding, community riding

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since then. No.

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Community

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is an outcome of a deliberate

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process.

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Right?

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That doesn't stop.

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I honestly don't have a problem with people

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creating

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communities, third spaces, whatever the word is. Right.

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If it's best for their iman.

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And this becomes more tangled and you know

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this, when you start having kids.

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My daughter, my oldest daughter,

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did not have to

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did not know about race as a construction

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until I sent her to a Muslim school.

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She had no idea that she was like

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mixed parents and she's Asian and why you

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got straight hair and

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That is something that she never encountered

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in where how we raised her. Right. Public

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school is a whole another beast.

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But when she went

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kindergarten

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and 1st grade,

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she got a hijab snatched off her head

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and was made aware that racially,

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she was different than other people.

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And it was like the weirdest conversation I

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have with 5 year old about race, like

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critical race theory at 5.

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And then a white day.

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Right? So it's

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weird, but then I just realized like I

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just got to continue to work for what's

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best.

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I think the second thing is you got

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to constantly remind people like this is not

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a cult, this is not a group like

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so I know in center DC from our

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early inceptions like we say Masjid Mohammed is

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our mosque.

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1st hijra is our mosque.

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We we didn't do taro'id. We don't replicate,

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and correct me now if I'm wrong, we

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don't replicate things that other institutions are already

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doing. We want to partner with an institution.

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So game night, we about that game night.

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So

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Eunice,

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that's a struggle that's never gonna leave you

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and never gonna stop. You're not gonna find

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a perfect community. It will never happen.

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It's impossible.

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Right? It's not fun. I'm sorry to say

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that.

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But it's just the mechanisms and the makeup

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of our community is so different.

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It just demands resilience.

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That's why the prophet said no one has

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given anything better than resilience.

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And number 3 is always be an ally

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to what's right.

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Like if you think, are you and I

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got a bed? Talk to girls, man. That's

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true. Like talk to women in the Muslim

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community.

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Like,

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we are we're we're in the 1st class

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lounge, bro. We're just complaining because the food

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is cold.

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No. Seriously. Right? So then be

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be be a a I'm talking to myself.

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Be an ally to people

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as well. So I'm not only complaining about

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the problem and being part of the problem.

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And if I'm donating to nonprofits,

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I'm not donating so I can have a

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voice in my own personal agenda.

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But if I if I know that people

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aren't being treated well in this nonprofit, I'm

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gonna say, listen. I've gave you $15,000

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over the last year. I need to talk

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to you about some stuff, man.

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And if they're not gonna do it, then

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I'm gonna support people who do do it.

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That's nothing wrong

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with it.

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