Suhaib Webb – A Hadith That Most People Do Not Know Many Scholars Considered Weak and Dangerous

Suhaib Webb
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The Muslim community's religion and interfaith differences can lead to a " endless bottomless ocean" that everyone is unaware of. The Hadith of the prophet is often considered a good Hadith, but not everyone can agree on its authenticity. The speaker discusses issues with the hadiths, including the lack of unity among Muslim people and the weakening of hadiths, and warns of potential entertainment and fun in college life. The speaker also discusses interpretational and political challenges of interpretations and the sourcing of the hadith, as well as the issue of not being Patriarchal and the climate of the world.
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The differences that you find in religions,

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while Milal and dogmas.

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And then the Ummah of the prophet

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in different groups

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into different parties and groups. What we see

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now,

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He said that this issue

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of the differences of religion and then the

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interfaith differences

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that you find amongst the Muslim community

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is an endless,

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bottomless,

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deep

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ocean

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that most people drown in.

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And only a few people were able to

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be saved from it.

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It. Because everyone in the groups, they think

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they're the right group, as Allah

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says,

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that every group assume that they're on the

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truth.

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And And this is where we're gonna stop.

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And he said, and this actually is amplified

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by the hadith of the prophet, the truthful

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one. Sallallahu

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alaihi

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wa sallam

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that the prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam is reported

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to have said that that my Ummah is

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going to divide into 73 *.

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Only one of them

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will be saved.

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This hadith

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as we finish today insha Allah is

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perhaps one of the most difficult text and

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irresponsibly used text by Muslims who have very

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little training in the science of hadith and

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in the basic understanding of Islam. First

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of all,

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we're going to look at this hadith. And

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the reason I'm spending time explaining this hadith

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to you because I think it's important for

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you to know because I remember

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later on as I moved away from Oklahoma

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and I started to engage in MSAs,

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I saw

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MSA after MSA

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after MSA

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divided,

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split, and wrecked. Even I saw masajid

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with people using this hadith.

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What's always been interesting to me is

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that the one quoting the hadith is the

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one who thinks they're safe.

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This

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is the interesting part, right, before we engage.

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And Imam Ashaltabi,

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he says something amazing about this Hadith, even

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though he considered it a good Hadith going

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against the majority of her father.

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And he said that even if you believe

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this hadith is right, it is not allowed

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to label people like 68, 43,

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32.

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I remember once in San Diego, California,

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I was in a masjid, and there was

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an old gentleman. I was sitting next to

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him, and people would walk by, and he

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would go like this,

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46.

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And, you know, the new Muslim, you're kinda

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scared. You don't wanna say nothing. I don't

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know what's going on, it's something I haven't

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learned yet, I'm just gonna shut up.

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Then someone else would walk by,

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53.

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Did someone else walk by,

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19.

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So I say, hey.

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I'm sorry

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to to ask you, but,

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like,

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did I miss something? Is there some kind

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of right to Jum'ah

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that I missed as the convert guy?

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He said, yeah, you know the hadith?

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About 736?

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I labeled

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I labeled everyone in the Masjid

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according to their sect. And I'm I'm practicing,

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remembering who's who.

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So then, of course, I couldn't resist. I

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was a little bold when I was young.

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I said,

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what number are you?

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What do you think he said?

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What do you think he said?

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What do you guys think he said? I

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said

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to him,

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What number are you, man?

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He said,

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I'm number 1.

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So then I said,

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what number am I?

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He said, you don't wanna know. I said,

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good thing. Thank you.

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Have a nice day bro.

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This hadith

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actually is extremely weak

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for a number of reasons that you should

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know. So you can at least

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try to work to bring some

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unity to the Muslim community when people try

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to use this hadith.

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First of all, this hadith is not mentioned

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by Imam Al Bukhari or Imam Muslim in

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their Sahih.

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And when

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and Muslim agree on not mentioning something,

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it is understood

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that it did not reach that level of

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authenticity. Doesn't mean it's weak,

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but it did not pass their

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criteria for being

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the most authentic.

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It is related by Imam Ahmed. It's related

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by Imam Abu Dawood,

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great whole father of Hadith, Imam

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and others. And Sayidina Imam Materidi actually said

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Hassan al Sahih. We're gonna talk about it

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in a second.

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In his chapter on

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and with and Hakim. And Hakim, of course,

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although he was trying to write a book

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of hadith that did not reach the that

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that Bukhari and Muslim did not collect that

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met their criteria,

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he wasn't able to finish,

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his book.

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The second thing is that we find a

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lot of different wordings of this hadith. And

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this is important for you to know that

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when a hadith has too many wordings that

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make it impossible

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to make them

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con

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it's the word I'm thinking in English.

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Like, you can't get them to conform.

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So this is called you may wanna write

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this down.

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Meaning the wording

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sometimes is completely contradictory.

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So for example, that's why the Malekis, the

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Hadith that the prophet said

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before he opened his his prayer, then you

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find the same person or another narration saying,

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he never said before he opened his prayer.

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Like, what are you gonna do with that?

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Did he or did he not?

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So if we look at the different narrations

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of this hadith, we find very rarely do

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any of them agree on one wording.

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Specifically,

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the last part. They agree on the first

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part about division. They don't

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agree on the last part.

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So, for example,

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like what I am upon

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and my companions.

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You find that in one of the narrations.

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Another narration you find

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All of them are in the * except

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1 and this is the jamaah. You find

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another narration,

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all of them are in the hellfire except

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1. What I'm teaching you now is not

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something, unfortunately, should be taught at MSAs, man,

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but we have to be careful. There is

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certainly a place for entertainment and fun in

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college life that should make up the bulk

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of college life. Right? Because you got no

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bills.

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But at the same time, unless you are

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me, at the same time, you gotta learn,

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man.

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Right? You you you you my teacher used

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to say he used to say, I had

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a teacher who was tough. He's like, what

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are you doing? He's like, I'm chilling. He's

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like, you're gonna chill till you thaw in

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*.

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Woah. Okay. I'm not chilling.

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Right? I'm not chilling. So, the first is

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that the wordings

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are

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impossible to bring into conformity.

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This is called Iltirab

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and it's a source of weakness in a

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hadith, a serious problem.

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The second thing is that

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we find that as I mentioned earlier,

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this hadith actually even in its chain of

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narrations, we find sometimes there's a break in

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the chain. Sometimes the narrator is unknown.

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Things that cause the chain also to experience

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problems.

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The third problem is from a perspective of

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because

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doesn't Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in the Quran

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call us

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that we are the best

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but if you take this hadith, it means

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that we are worse than those who came

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before us.

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And there's a great statement of I wrote

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it here somewhere. 1 of the early scholars

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about this that I will try to find

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that talks about like,

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you know, the the the the of the

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prophet

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The 4th, and I didn't get into this.

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It's a little complicated, but we find that

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a large majority of scholars from the past

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and now even in the present

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wrote critical

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analysis

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of the chain

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of the wording

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and the meaning

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of this hadith.

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For example, Imam Ibn Wazir al Yemeni,

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he actually wrote a a poem about it.

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He said,

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be careful of the hadith that everyone is

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in the fire except 1.

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So Arusha is saying, I have a question.

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Oh, no, it's not Arusha.

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No, no.

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Sorry. I have a question from someone that

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says, like, do you think that since a

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lot of Islamic knowledge has been passed down

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through a man that some Hadith interpretations are

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flawed by patriarchal viewpoints.

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So I do think that that's a possibility.

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You know, Imam ibn Hazem, one of the

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interesting points about him is that when he

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wrote a chapter on menstruation, he said, I

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went and asked women. I don't know what

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it's like to menstruate.

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So I don't think that those individuals were

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necessarily patriarchal in their time. Patriarchy wasn't under.

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We're looking at now, hindsight's 2020.

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But I do think we can be critical

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of interpretations,

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which are seen now

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as going against the generality and beauty of

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Islam

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and oftentimes are invoking. And this is something

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else the person I can't see.

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My glasses are not good. That

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that the,

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sometimes in the books of Tafsir, stories are

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taken from Jews and Christians

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and their sources

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which has doctor Ingrid Madison has brilliantly talked

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about, actually take women farther back than what

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Islam intended

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for them. So there is the interpretational

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challenge of not having

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women looking at those texts and sharing a

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woman's reflection.

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And then also there's a sourcing challenge.

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And and

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I, you know,

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I understand

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the climate that we're in.

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I don't necessarily think people meant like they

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had ill intent. I just think that's the

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problem of their age.

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Right? That's a problem of their age. And

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it's on us to rectify those things.

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And and and we talked a little bit,

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I think, about that, last evening.

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So,

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he writes a poem. He says, right?

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The other thing that's interesting about this hadith

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is doesn't the prophet call him

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like my will divide.

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So, if someone is from the of the

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prophet

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the prophet is saying, this is my

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Are they gonna go to *? Just think

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about the wording,

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umati, my ummah,

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umma,

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my community.

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The

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umma are those here,

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the specific meaning who follow

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him.

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And finally, because I'm sure people wanna attend

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the Sheikh Aisha Prime's amazing program tonight.

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There are some scholars

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who state that the meaning and and here's

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the statement of

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about this. He said

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That actually that's the word

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implies that these people have not left Islam.

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Because the prophet said his so they're not

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And finally, and this is a very profound

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interpretation. I heard from one of my teachers

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and also I've I've read in some of

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the classical books

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that Ummah here actually means the Ummah of

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Christians and Jews

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who will live during the time of the

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prophet

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until the end of time.

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The Christians and Jews of my

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my, period.

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But using this hadith

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to attack

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fellow Muslims

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and to label fellow Muslims

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is agreed upon up until around 200 years

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ago

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amongst a minority of people, a minority of

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of individuals,

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the majority of Ahlus Sunnah

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have not used this hadith

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in a way to label, destroy and dismantle

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the community.

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