Shadee Elmasry – This Is Why You DONT Get Fatwas from AI… – Placing Flowers on Graves
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Omar, I want you to fire up that
AI company that tried to do a little
underhanded clip, take a clip out, and they
try to make people look bad, but you're
dealing with somebody who has a different psychology
of, you know, when someone tries to make
them look bad.
I don't know, it doesn't affect me, right?
And in fact, I think, all right, well,
we'll get back, we'll get to you someday.
And today we're going to get to him.
And we're going to talk about what the
Hanbala have said, what the Malikiya have said,
what the Shafi'iya have said, what the
Ahnaf have said.
Omar is going to fire that up.
But to give you a summary, this is
an organization that uses artificial intelligence to produce
quotes for you, quotes from books.
So we'll wait to see how that goes.
In general, I think all the Fuqaha like
the human interface.
If it's just a matter of providing a
reference, I mean, people Google stuff all the
time.
So what exactly is the difference?
But I don't think they should call it
a fatwa.
They should just call it a reference site.
But anyway, let's take a look at their
attempted mockery here.
So let's see what they said here.
By the way, they got ripped in the
comments.
Go to a grave and put flowers on
the grave.
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Well, that question is definitely not going to
embarrass you when you ask your local imam
if you could put some flowers on your
mom's grave, nor would it shock anyone, whatever
anyone says.
But let's actually just get to the mess
because you could tell the slant of the
organization based on who they have in their
little Instagram clips.
Myself, Sheikh Asrar, and they got some she
is as if he's putting like people he
thinks are innovators in one category.
And then she had all commented to them.
And he said, by the way, you're not
using some of the books at the way
you're advertising.
And they asked him, like, I think they
said something like, who are you?
His bio said that he's studying at Azhar
because that's what Sheikh Harun is.
He's completing his degree at Azhar.
So I think they said to him, well,
you're in Azhar.
He said, that's all we need to know.
Right.
It's like, what?
First of all, are you going to treat
your potential customers like that?
You're going to treat your potential downloaders like
that and also insult him in front of
everybody?
Hello, where's your brain?
So anyway, let's get to what some ulama
said, because there clearly is a khilaf on
the matter.
And the khilaf on the matter is that
was this something that the Prophet ﷺ intended
for everybody to do?
Or was it something that only he did?
That's the question.
So Al Qurtubi says that when the Prophet
went to the grave of people, he was
informed are receiving a punishment.
And he placed two green stalks on them
and said that he hoped that as long
as they're green, that the punishment would be
lifted from them or would be eased up
on them.
One of them was a backbiter, all the
time backbiting.
The other, he didn't care about tahara.
So that affects your prayer.
If you don't care about putting stamps on
your envelopes, your envelopes don't arrive.
Right.
Whether or not you had a good intention
or not, Allah has created systems here.
You have to respect the system.
In any event, let's begin with Al Qurtubi.
He says that it's a shafa'ah for
them as long as it was green.
Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani says, Mazari says, it
could be that he was given wahi, that
it would be, the punishment would be relieved
from them for that period of time.
Well, there's an argument against that.
Because if it's wahi, then why would he
said, I hope?
Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam said, I hope if
it's wahi, then it's certainty.
Because wahi doesn't come with speculation.
Al Khattabi says, it could be that he
hopes that his dua for them remains so
long as these stocks are green.
But then we ask the question and he
says, it's not anything to do with the
stocks.
Well, then we ask the question, why wouldn't
the dua be permanent?
Like, why would the dua have a shelf
life?
Right?
When the Prophet prays for rahmah for somebody,
it's not a temporary rahmah that he wants.
Anyway, we're going to read all the opinions
because a matter of khilaf, we have to
elevate our discourse.
Matters of khilaf, read both sides.
What you believe is a stronger evidence, ahlan
wa sahlan, or if you have a madhhab,
you follow that.
But at the very least, you should not
be doing what this shaykh.ai, it's called,
shaykh.ai, I'm giving you free advertisement, so
you should be happy.
Um, what this organization is doing is trying
to make shaykh Asrar look bad, trying to
make myself look bad.
Thing is, you're dealing with someone who really
could, I almost enjoy it sometimes, right?
I'm always ready for a fight, although I
don't want to fight with another Muslim.
But if you pick it, and you know
there's always this problem, someone hits you, you
strike back, and then they say, don't cause
fitna.
Hold on a second.
Isn't the fitna started by the guy who
threw the first punch?
Anyway, he says that in this opinion by
Khattabi, whether it's fresh or dry, it doesn't
make a difference.
That's an opinion.
It has been said, the meaning here, as
long as these stalks are green, we know
that living things and plants are making tasbih,
and it's the tasbih that causes that decrease
in punishment.
Because the tasbih of Allah and punishment don't
come together, and this is what has been
used in many fatawa, in Hanbali books, as
well as we're going to read right now,
that allow for the dua and recitation at
graves.
Because they're saying here, if the plant, the
plant is a cause for decrease of punishment.
Imagine a human reciting the Quran, or any
other tasbih.
If you take this understanding, then the punishment
goes away.
So, if that's the way you understand it,
that it's the tasbih of the plants, of
the living plant that causes the punishment to
go away, then by extension, any and all
plants, as long as they're alive, will produce
that same effect.
And hence, not only is that a permissibility,
then you're doing someone a good favor, a
good deed.
وقال أيضاً, he says, al-Taybi says, it
could be completely unknown to us.
Yes, for sure, the absolute knowledge is unknown
to us.
And everyone is speculating, and the speculations are
all valid, and we can see which is
most valid, or most strong.
We can't say most valid, we say strongest
of all speculations.
We know all of the ahjaar, all of
the plants, they make tasbih of Allah, and
the tasbih of Allah repels punishment, and repels
bad things.
قال القاضي أيضاً, he says, the whole matter
is ghaybi, the Prophet put them there because
of a matter that's ghaybi, it's unseen to
us, meaning the news that they're being punished.
I say, قائد أيضاً, he said, it's irrelevant
to us, it's not necessary for us to
know what is a person's state in his
grave, for us to pray for him, for
mercy.
So therefore, that argument doesn't make a difference.
So if we don't know, if we knew,
then we wouldn't pray for them.
If we knew that they're in paradise, like
a martyr, if we knew that they were
having pleasure in the grave, we wouldn't pray
for them?
No, we still pray for them.
There is nothing in this hadith that shows
that the Prophet himself put them there, he
could have ordered someone to put them there.
بَلْ يُحْتَمَلْ أَن يَكُونْ أَمْرًا أَمَرَ بِهِ It's
possible that the Messenger commanded somebody to put
the plants there.
And here we have one of the strongest
pieces of evidence.
فَعَلَ الصَّحَابَةِ لِلْحَدِيثِ أي فَهْمُهُ لِلْحَدِيثِ The Sahabi
Buraida took an example from this.
فَأَوْصَ بُرَيْدَ He said, he counseled, when I
die, put on my grave two stalks, just
as you did for the Prophet ﷺ.
So if a Sahabi did it, that's a
very strong evidence.
And this narration says, it was Buraida al
-Aslami, the Sahabi, who advised and counseled, put
two in my grave.
One narration says, on my grave.
عَلَى الْقَبْرِ And this one, قَالَ الْبُخَارِ وَأَوْصَ
بُرَيْدَ الْأَسْلَمِ يَجْعَلْ فِي قَبْرِهِ جَلِيدًا Two stalks,
two green stalks, in his grave.
قَالَ ابْنَ حَجَر Ibn Hajar says, it appears
from the way he wrote this, that he
supports putting green things on or in the
graves.
What about Ibn Hajar al-Haytami al-Shafi
'i in his Fatawa al-Kubra, Shafi'i
Fatwas?
He says, the istimbat of the Shafi'iyah
is to do it for all, meaning permitted
and even beneficial for all, in general.
Based on that it's the Tasbih that is
the cause that there is no punishment or
that the punishment goes away.
Let's go to the Ahnaf and let's travel
down to Bilad al-Hind.
قَالَ صَاحِبُ الْفَتَاوَةِ الْهِنْدِيَةِ عَلَى الْقُبُورِ حَسَنٌ إِن
تَصَدَّقَ بِقِيمَةِ الْوَرْدِ كَانَ أَحْسَنٌ And if he
gives charity from the value of those, it's
even better.
So he says it's Hasan.
So here we have the Hasan, the Malikiya
Hasan, the Shafi'iya Hasan.
طَيِّب فَلْنَذْهَبْ إِلَى الْإِمَامِ أَحْمَدْ وَأَصْحَابِ Who is
saying this?
صاحب مطالب.
Because of this, it is a Sunnah.
Sunnah.
All things that would decrease punishment is a
Sunnah.
وَلَوْ بِجَعْلِ جَرِيدَ رَطِبَ فِي الْقَبْرِ Even if
that means putting a green stalk on the
grave.
وَأَوْصَى بِهِ بُرَيْدَ Burayda asked for this to
be done to himself.
We said here this is an ikhtilafi matter.
We're just going to read everything and you
can see which one is most appealing.
And I can tell you which I feel
is most, but it's the strongest of evidences.
But as clearly we're saying, it's an ijtihadi
matter.
And the fool is in knowledge is one
who takes an ijtihadi matter and elevates it
to a qat'iyan يَتَشَنَّجَ And just makes
these crazy videos like this.