Shadee Elmasry – The Love of the Messenger – NBF 377
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Welcome everybody to the Safeen Saudi Nothing but
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livestream on a gorgeous
day, on a day in which,
it is Thursday.
We need to fade over, Yom.
There we go. There we go.
On a beautiful day, it's sunny out, and
we have a lot of guests.
Some guests are yet to come. They're on
the way. That's Sheikh Ahmed Salim from Atlanta.
He's coming. He's on the way, but today
he'll join us virtually.
And we have Sheikh Asadullah.
He is
from Seattle,
alaihi wasallam. And I'm telling you,
just make the intention.
If you make the intention, then Allah ta'ala
turn this over a little bit. If you
make the intention,
Allah ta'ala shows you the way.
I'll give you an example. No. The other
way. K.
I'll give you an example
of how
if you make the intention
and Allah, subhanahu wa ta'ala,
opens the ways for Muslims to come to
agreements on things.
A brother
of the recent Aqidah wars online,
he was a young guy.
He was shocked. He is so upset.
He lives in our community,
and he's saying Quran is this all sorts
of stuff about the Quran that makes no
sense.
So I was upset by it,
but I'm like, I can't be upset by
it. Just make the intention
to bring hearts together.
Luckily, had the conversation,
and Allah
opened
for a way in which
to to to discuss this issue and bring
it together.
I said to him,
I'm gonna set the clock.
After you answer me one question, I'm gonna
set the clock. Within 60 seconds, we will
be in full agreement.
He said there's no way,
and the people were watching too. I said,
okay. My first prerequisite question,
are the are our
actions created?
He said, yes. Of course. Allah says he
created you and your actions.
I'm created, and my actions are created. All
of our acts are created. I said, good.
That's all the prerequisites I need. Now hit
the on button for the clock.
I said, number 1,
when you recite the Quran,
that is a creation. Your recitation of the
Quran is a creation. Just say agree or
disagree. He said agree.
Said your writing of the Quran,
the writing down of the Quran
with a pen, with a computer, with a
whatever
is created. Yes or no? Agree or disagree?
I said agree.
I said, what you're writing
is the uncreated word of Allah.
What you're reciting, the act
is created. But what you're reciting is the
uncreated word of Allah. Agree or disagree? You
said agree?
That's
it. That's it. Leave off the terms
that boggle your mind and look at these
particulars.
That's what we have when the Quran is
here with us today.
What is it that's with us? Either a
recitation
or a kitaba. Right?
It's not an abstraction floating around. It's either
a recitation or a writing, and we both
agree that that's created.
We also both agree
that what you're writing
and what you're reciting is the uncreated word
of Allah.
He said, that's it. I said, that's the
issue. That's it. That's the and
this back and forth, I actually
went to my teachers about it.
And I asked 3 of my teachers,
is this back and forth
Isn't this a? They said, yes. This is
the.
I said, okay.
I'm telling you, he his face was so
like, almost shocked at how
that's it. That's the.
Same thing in all matters. Just make the
right intention.
No.
There's no.
And I don't believe either side have. They
just have opinions, and they have the the
way in which they formulate their opinions
and the way in which and the pre
these understandings may clash. So here we are
with Sheikh Ahmed Sadeem today who has a
lot of experience
with this same thing.
And I truly and firmly believe
these groups within Ahlus Sunnah, if they make
the intent
to please Allah and his messenger
And ask yourself, is this pleasing to Allah
and his messenger, this jidal amongst us?
Over
new things that have come upon us as
fitan,
and new questions.
Is it pleasing to Allah and his messenger
to do this?
And if the answer is no, then the
opposite is pleasing.
It's pleasing to Allah and his messenger to
have the intent to bring the hearts of
the ummah together.
And the way to do that, I'm telling
you, is not to run away from the,
but it's first to have the right
the the right attitude,
the right intention,
and leave off
what is actually unnecessary.
K.
Okay. That's good. Let them all say, oh,
the Sufi mystic.
K.
Alright. Alright. Let's bring Sheikh Ahmed Saneem.
He has
an extremely,
extremely, extremely
rich
background,
having Shafi'i teachers
in Saudi Arabia.
And he came he comes from Al Asa.
And the first thing that he can create
correct for us, is it Al Hasa or
Al Asa?
Both. It's both. Okay.
Okay. Yeah. Because in in in Amia, they
call it Hasa. Hasa. It's like it's a
al hasa or hasa. You know, they they
did they they, you know, do the Iqmal
of the hamza. And it's writing
it's Al Hasa. It's Al Hasa. Yes. Yeah.
Good. And it's actually that whole multiple is
called hufuf.
It's called what? Hufuf. That whole
that whole region is called hufuf. This region
of Saudi Arabia, the tribes are upon one
of the 4 madhhabs there. Oh, yeah. This
is amazing to see. And they teach that.
And I've always wondered
why has not Saudi shut this down? You
tell me. Tell us the answer. Those tribes
are pretty powerful. Right? Yeah. So you you
can't annex an entire
the the biggest date production comes from Assa.
Amazing. So I renew in Assaoui, there's there's
a date called,
and that particular date, the one that comes
from,
is one of the the best dates that
you can have. So What's it called again?
Khlas. Not.
Khlas.
So where does Sukhuri come from?
Kasim.
Kasim. Kasim. And and Khajj is the the
the miskeen. It gets both. It gets Klas
and
sukari, and this is, like, in between. So
they're like, you know, they it can, you
know, it can have all. But the highest
quality of sukari is from Kasim,
and the highest quality of class is from,
from Hassan. Is Sukkari considered a cheap date
or a precious date?
Like, if you you know, sometimes, this is
we think Ajwai is, like, the top. Yeah.
Like, sukari, one
box that would have probably 2.5 kilos of
dates Yeah. Can go sometimes for 8 to
800 to 1,000 rims. So,
is the best, like, to have for breakfast?
For breakfast and the so the sunnah. Yeah.
Sunnah of and
stuff like that, and that's why the valley
was there. Right? And within Ajwa too, you
have, like, that, they call it. Right? I
don't know if you know the Ajwa
which is the date that has been.
Oh, okay. I thought you're about to say.
Okay. So
I always felt that is my favorite. No
doubt about it. It is the favorite. Yeah.
And I I think I'll I'll see if
I'm coming traveling tomorrow.
I'm gonna see if I have some, special
sukuri that flies in for me every now
and then. I'll see if I have some
left, and I'll try to bring that over
in short. Wonderful. Wonderful.
Now let's talk about your time in Saudi
Arabia has caused you to really live with
tensions between opinions.
Yeah. Because, like and and again, those who
know me and and and I've always been
like, I grew up on
a a very salafi upbringing. Right? All of
my teachers used to, and I grew up
on that. Right? And I I still have
respect for those. Like, as a matter of
fact, like, I just want people to know
that, like, in one of the the that
I was supposed to be giving in Atlanta.
Right? One of my teachers who I revered
and I grew up listening to him and
studying from him. And they said, oh, this
sheikh is going to be visiting, and is
it okay if you give your hootba away?
And I'm like, are you crazy? He's my
teacher. So that adab is what we have
learned that, you know, you I may disagree
with him on 10 topics. Mhmm. But when
it comes to his maqam, the
he taught me. Right?
That is the other that we must show,
right, to the people. So, yeah, I grew
up on that. And then one day, I
came across this beautiful teacher of mine, Sheikh
Abdulilah.
And, you know, we went to him with
this argument. We we went to him with
this arrogance that, you know, we're gonna teach
him FIP.
And the sheikh will, like, subhanAllah, work beautiful
magic. He's like it's like he's like, Masha'Allah,
you're from Canada, you're a very intellectual person.
He stroked my ego in a manner that
I couldn't imagine. And then he was like,
look, let's give us 3 months. You come
and study with me for 3 months.
And at the end of it, I if
your arguments are stronger, I will follow you.
Subhanallah. And if my arguments are stronger, then,
you know, then you'll have no choice to
but to decide. SubhanAllah. And, I think, within
a month and a half, my heart started
changing because I saw an entire world
of understanding fiqh, understanding
which
was firstly,
you know, very,
limited to text, but now we're looking at
nuances and we're looking at different okay. You
know, I had an kalam, yaktamal,
Ihtamalat. Yeah. Mhmm. You know, Laysa Muktamal Sheikh.
And Yep. If it's
then okay. Hassan, what like, so all of
the I'm like, wow.
This is something new. And subhanallah from there,
I I I just,
to Shabbat.
Masha'Allah. And then
Oh,
no. And then I also had long experience
with the masha'af in India. That's a part
that we never talk about. But,
so my my degree is from Kerala.
From one of the, Jamiyah, Arabia, and Nuriya,
which is a very big, Sunni madrassa.
They follow
the and stuff like that. That shayd came
here. What's his name, the main shaykh?
Depends. There's, like, 3 of them. So with
madrassa, there I don't know. I don't think
it's the or
Sheikh Badri. I don't think Okay. One of
them who's always with Habib Omar in India,
he came here. He must have come. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember. So
those so I I graduated from those and
stuff like that. So,
it is it is what it is. That's
wonderful. And and I think I think having
seen both sides,
I came to this realization
that many times,
So we read, and we're like, oh, this
is mentioned in that,
the Sufis are like that, or this is
mentioned in that Salafis are like that. But
I was that unique person that actually got
to sit with some of the, and I
was like, wait a minute. They don't believe
in that. It's just a few of them
that become famous, but the the of them,
they're very.
It's a problem. Like, they are a theory
creed. Like, you know, my Sheikh Sheikh Muhammad
Al Khulayr, may Allah take him out of
the prison. He's been in prison. Today, in
every phone app, the the the gharib al
Quran, if you go into the the the
phone apps and it says the word meanings
of the Quran, it actually comes he is
the one who wrote that. Muhammad Al Khudayri.
He is the writer of that to make
people understand Quran in in in basic understanding.
When I traveled with him,
wallahi, I was
ashamed to call myself
in front of his
Right? Like, somebody who gets up at 3
o'clock at night after traveling for 3 hours
and arriving at 12 o'clock, and then waking
me up and this is me,
sleeping in his bed, enjoying his life. I'm
like, the sheikh is like, Ahmed Ahmed Salam.
Right? And the the those days, I'm like,
there's no way. And then we sit in
the car and I'm like, I'm gonna ask
them, and then the entire 2 hours, he
didn't speak to me. He was doing his
adkar, his litanings. He's a Sarafisheikh.
It's upon Like, there's no way you can
be connected to that sunnah. Yes. We there
are
variances as we all have variances on this
side, there's also variances on that side. And
I think that is something we must we
must appreciate and understand that not all of
them can be stroked with one brush. Right?
And I got that blessing to be able
to see the both sides, the balanced versions
of both sides.
And I'm telling you the, it all goes
back to to the intent.
Are you intending
to enjoy there's a in hating somebody.
It's true. There's
a in our group hates that group.
Yeah. That is a terrible. That is mamal
Hadad said.
So The of backbiting, of destroying, of taking
down. And in in we're we're revert in
reverse, what we're doing is elevating ourselves. SubhanAllah.
Abu Hanifa's Hussein used to he Abu Hanifa
saw his son argue with someone.
So he rebuked him. So he says,
yeah. I think it's other Abu Hanifa or
Ahmed. You know, don't quote me on that.
It's one of the 2. So he said,
oh my dad, I've always seen you
argue with other people and and and argue
in a good manner.
Right? Yeah. On on concept.
So he said, yes. The difference is, my
son, in your intention, I can see that
you want to defeat him. SubhanAllah. SubhanAllah. In
my intention, when I would argue, my intention
was that I shouldn't move so that I
don't want to confuse my opponent and hopefully
he wins. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what that's
where a lot of these brothers said the
debate
seemed hard in my heart, so I left
it. Right?
But the same brothers, when it's like a
local community member with
good intention back and forth. They always engage
in this. Oh, no. Good intention back and
forth. Their heart you have to be able
to have and as sheikh Mohammed Idi Akhoubhi
used to say, an antenna.
Antennas on the TV. You need to have
an antenna of where is my heart moving.
Subhanahu. And if it ever
moves to to to kibber
or separation, then you know Imblis has taken
over the event. Subhanahu. The discussion. But if
it if it moves towards
a strong dua
to bring our hearts together,
not naively by burying the issue. This is
just naivete,
but by bringing out the truth
Yeah. And being open to the yeah. And
being open to listen to the Yeah. Being
open to the fact of what is in
our religion, what is Khalafi.
Right? Yeah.
It's gonna you're gonna have success
9 times out of 10. Yeah. And that's
what that's what our point is here. Our
point is here to
there are a lot of essential students. As
you know, we're starting our our
our our academic year online. Some of the
brothers and when essential starts, we're starting tonight
at 7 o'clock.
And
when we do this,
you have to have the intention
of purifying your intent towards the.
Mhmm.
As long as it's within the parameters of
of
of the
sunnah.
Ithi Malat. Ithi Malat.
Exactly. There's Ithi Malat in the Vani evidences.
Yes. And you have to understand that. Right?
So now if you don't know what those
are, then we'll just say have a clean
heart to everyone until you learn. Right?
Oh. And have a clean and that's the
best example. And and has,
he said that the sun the dua, which
is a sunnah.
Allahumma.
Oh, Allah, remove
the anger of my heart
and protect
me from the tribulations that lead people astray.
If you say it 7 times a day,
he said, very slowly, the the
is the sharpness of your heart. Some people
The edginess. The edginess of your heart. The
porcupine aspect of your personality
will slowly
alright. Some people's feet are like they destroy
any sheet that they sleep in. Right? Their
feet are so cut up.
They work hard, whatever.
But you can soften that with these machines.
Remove all the edges off of it. Then
you have a smooth surface.
Like, sanding a table down, you can sand
your heart down and remove that edginess.
Alright. Let's now turn
in our first segment now. That's our introduction
on you on the importance
of purifying our heart towards others.
And if you're gonna love if you're one
of those who loves
as the month of the prophet,
this is greater than anything else.
Just to to
have a pure
and a pure heart towards every Muslim.
And by the way, it may not be
reciprocated. Here's the key.
You may say, okay. I did it, but
he didn't reciprocate. We have then.
We have. Allah created the
and they cursed him back.
The messenger is the greatest of all in
his towards
the people
and the people. Until today, he is attacked
by people. There's no human being more attacked
on the earth than the messenger
is in.
So we have to have with with with
when people don't reciprocate
that. They're gonna say, oh, no. We were
you're all innovative.
No problem. Yeah. Used
to say, Mhmm. That the fact that you
that the people walked away from this message.
The word is like an imager here. Right?
That they were listening to him, they turned
around, and Rasulullah is being hurt because they
walked away, and he's looking at the footsteps
of these people. And he's saying, why would
you walk away from this? Subhanallah.
How would you walk away from this? So
it may not be
Yeah. People some people may not take that
love.
Again, it's something That's it. You have to
just have something with it. I think let's
I think to to to introduce this topic,
I think the ayah that I think will
we can begin with is where Allah subhanahu
wa ta'ala says,
Right? And and and this ayah that, you
know, you may believe in Allah and his
messenger and that you may venerate him and
you may honor him do
of him. But
and you sanctify Allah
in the morning and
towards the end of the night.
This is really interesting because if you read
the tafsir books,
there is between
them. This who, this
is it going to,
is it going to Allah or
is it going to the messenger?
Right? And and from here, it's the primary.
Like, because,
for example, in his,
even
he mentions about about this particular topic. He
says,
Mhmm. Right? So we believe in him. So
this is a direct command
that we have to honor him. And we
like, you can't say and this is a
qual of the
the first 3 generations or 4 generations to
do tafsir of the Quran in this manner.
So for us to say that there is
no dariel for this
honoring is is is is a bit naive.
Right? Or more simplistic. Right? You can say
that where are we getting that. Right? Respecting
him, honoring him, being happy for this month,
Hajid.
Why can't you not show that respect? And
that's the that's the beginning of now your
presentation on this. This.
Yeah. Explain what that means in English for
our audience here. So to us so
to basically is this feeling that you like,
basically, in the meanings here to
that you venerate him, you honor him, you
support him, you become him. Every single possible
way that he needs help, you become that
help that he needs. Right? And then in
the help, don't disrespect
him. Keep his
keep his
keep his honor. He has a.
He's not like us. That that
we keep it while the kept it during
his life. Right? Imam
Malik, he mentions that, you know, he saw
some people and they were laughing. So he
said we've found people
when they would hear the name of prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam,
they Yes, sir. Would they would face his
Munkadr,
his face would turn pale.
Right? His just because Rasulullah is mentioned in
his message.
This is tawpil. This is the highest level
of tawpil that they had. Right? They could
not take even even Imam Malik famous story.
Right? Somebody came to him and said,
teach me hadith.
So Imam Malik said,
Who is the man's asking me for this
hadith in the tariq?
Wow. Take him and whip him 20 times.
So they said to him,
hada Qadi. This is the Qadi of Madinah
who's asking you for this. So he said,
al Qadi.
Right? Hajeem.
Then then Imam Malik brought him home and
then taught him 20 hadith for every Jalda.
Wow. So you know how he said? He
said
I wish that he had, you know you
know, went to me a 100 times Yeah.
So that I would have 100 hadith to
talk about the world that
I took 100 narrations from Imam Malik. Right?
So this
is part of our deen. Yeah. Now that
was the of the Sahaba and Salaf. Today
that has formulated into other ways, other forms
in which there is no
there's no issue in doing that though. Yeah.
There's no issue in honoring him in that
manner and to respecting him respect him in
that manner. There's no issue in that. We
don't have any issues with that. And the
second part is, I think, that
this element that, oh, this type of the
appeal in terms of doing,
an event,
where is the delete for that? And I
actually proud. I said, nobody is going to
accept any delete of the this the
the
I have to bring a daleel from the
first three generations. Otherwise, they're gonna be like,
there's no daleel. Right? And the daleel is
Ibn Abbas radiAllahu an.
Right? When he was in in in in
Iraq or Kufa Iraq or Kufa or that
that area, Ibn Abbas,
what he did was on the day of
Arafah,
he gathered the entire city.
What year was this?
After? This was after Rasulullah says. Yeah. This
is after Rasulullah salaam's death. So he is
now in Basra or Kufat, so he's there.
And ibn Abbas, he gets up on the
day of Arafa,
the same day it coincides. People are doing
their mashal.
He is gathering the community and doing a
and then doing a communal dua. Nobody said
anything about that. And he did it consistently
for as long as he lived. So So
you may say, oh, you know what? This
is something once a year, and we have.
Then you have.
Ibn Mas'ud, he legislated a dars on every
Thursday
after Maghrib.
Every Thursday,
And the beautiful and he he stuck to
that. The beauty is he is the same
Ra'i who narrated the hadith to us about
Rasulullah will not give us give us the
rules frequently.
Not frequently.
So what he forgot that, you know, someone
who's narrating you the hadith that Rasulullah would
occasionally give us a dars and now he
is creating a consistent dars.
So clearly there's something that is being missed
in the understanding when we become, like that.
And again, that's our side of the argument.
We're not here to to to put down
anyone. We're not here to say, you know,
you're again, this is what we believe to
be true. Yeah. Right? And in that manner,
if any type of
of of comes, if any type of way
that we can show respect and honor to
the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam for example,
the children can have the different names. I
saw this beautiful activity and I intend and
hopefully, if we get some time, we'll do
it in this weekend. Was was this activity
where, you know, you asked the audience to
take the name of Ali Bhattasa and think
of a Sifa of Prophet Sallallahu Sallam from
Alif all the way to the end. And
everybody gets engaged. Right? So give me something
about Jean, Jawad. Rasulullah
was Jawad.
He was Jameel.
Talk talk about the Sifa. Now did any
of the Sahabas did that? No. Any of
the No. But this is something from
from the the chapter or from the element
or from the the category of us honoring,
which is a direct command from Allah
to us.
So is there a concept there that there's?
Like what? There there are general commands.
Like, for example, what is generosity? Do we
do we not
Right? So I have to be nice to
I have to be generous to my guests,
but what does generosity mean exactly? It's is
that not what we consider?
Umraham, a general commandment.
Right? And it's
we don't have a that does of it.
Yeah. There's no. Yeah. It's
So therefore,
if I offer him water,
I'm sure in some places,
that's what they could do.
And if I go to a very wealthy
man's house and he's got 5 rooms that
I have to get through until I get
to the main room
and he offers me water,
I'm gonna feel that he didn't do his
job. Right? I expect
a lot more than that. Right? Because what
I see around me
right? Right? Because what I see around me,
it's this is not fitting. Right? This is
not fitting. Be saying Pellegrino with water. Hey.
You know what I, sometimes every once in
a while, you meet somebody. I went to
someone's house. It was one of these homes.
You had to go he invited us for
dinner.
You gotta do 5 rooms until you get
to the room that you're gonna sit in.
Right?
And there's, like, it's you think he sells
luxury cars in the in his driveway
from how many cars he has. Some petal.
We said, oh, it's a beautiful backyard you
have, but too bad that,
there's no hijab between you and the neighbor's
house
because the the the sisters then, they can't
swim in your pool.
And
the woman, she says,
I know. We realized that. So we just
bought the other house too. K? A lot
of k.
So when we went to these people's house,
just to show you that generosity is different,
we sat there on the porch,
and he served us a sushi dinner. Right?
There are all kinds of sushi,
and we ate the sushi. Right? That's the
the best sushi,
probably in the town. A lot
of
good.
I
said,
Right?
And
he said, no. This is the appetizer.
Right?
Who's the appetizer? We're we're grilling right now.
The real dinner.
So
layer that to them is that's generosity to
them. Right? Another person said generosity is so
relative
Yeah. For for
the record.
Okay. Just for the Arab to be correct.
So
everything's relative. Right? So in an organized society,
I think we'll be very different from a
Bedouin society. That's gonna be one of the
differences. Right or wrong? Definitely. Definitely. In an
any organized society, they like to categorize things
and do it all
Right? Like, we're gonna have a conference here.
We're gonna have a long term planning meeting
here. The HEV's year is from here to
here. Right? And then by this time, you
have to have finished this HEV's, then we're
gonna have a HEV's party.
And that's what
I think is a big difference that there
there are
there are there are cultures of people. Cultures.
They are very organized in how they do
things. So the question then is is that
Look at the Indonesians in Mecca and the
Indonesians in Malaysians in Mecca and the Indonesians
in Mecca for Umrah. They're so organized compared
to any other countries.
So is that level of organization,
is there room in that in the Sharia?
100%. 100%. You're because
we must have for for aam, the general
rule is if something when I say the
aam, when we say the word aam, it's
like, there is a rule, and that rule
has not been confined by specifics.
Mhmm. K? That's the way to understand. Yeah.
If the rule is be generous,
who are we to come and confine the
generosity? Yeah. Unless
unless I have an evidence or you come
to me and say, no. No. Rasool Allah
said you can be generous to everyone, but
you cannot be generous to that person. Yep.
Then, okay, we say, okay, that person excluded
from my generosity. Right? Yeah. You can be
generous to this this, but this person you
cannot be generous to. Then that tafsiz happens.
But in when the rule is
and especially the who over here that you
honor him, it is referring to prophet in
the anyways.
So we have to be able to provide
that. The other part I think is important
for us to understand is sometimes we think
things are blackened. Mhmm. Right? So we will
take I'm sure that he's and I I
I I share this with with absolute,
you know, with no intention to vilify, but
to be able to have a discussion. Imam
Shatabe is one of these those scholars that
are used as the primary
scholar that they would refer to is to
say, oh, he has not allowed without he
has not allowed moded, for example, or celebration
of any type. Right? And, actually, the word
itself, it says read. So he was against
this idea of calling it read, not the
mauled itself. Right? Because if you go and
read some of Imam Shatabibi's work, you actually
soon realize that when he's doing on on
the 5 categories of,
in that, he's actually mentioning that or the
problem that I have is is in the
the way he's. And in there he says,
if there is a, then there's no problem.
Yep.
Right? He himself says that. Mhmm. And he
himself
confirms many of the of these times, for
example, and this this might hurt sometimes, but
he says,
we need.
Like, what are you gonna do now? Yeah.
He he he himself said there's a that
necessitates.
Yeah. But there is. And if those of
you that are students of knowledge, my sheikh
has done, like, this entire,
Sheikh Abdul Dila. What he did is he
took Imam Shatabir's work,
and he read them all, and he did
a concise YouTube video, 13 to 15 minutes
for you to be able to understand who
Imam Shatabir is. And from his Sufi stance,
from his Aqadi stance, from and in each
one, he's very unique.
So we can't disconnect a person and say,
I got this one fatwa, and I I
forget the rest of his greater understanding of
one particular thing, which is. Now I I
I sent a a picture to Omar. I
think if we can, if you wanna put
that up,
then we wanna talk about something because,
the argumentation begins while while the image comes
up.
The usual argument is, okay, anything that you
and I do, you've heard this probably many
times. It's like, are you doing this? Did
Rasulullah did you have a Dalit for it?
Right? Did Rasulullah
tell you this? Where is the Dalit for
it? So usually, the argument begins how the
argument begins in in in the person's mind
or in their minds is, for example, let's
take
anything.
Give me a. Let's take,
for example,
let's take for now. Right?
Of
Right?
I I know you work with me. Right?
So, is of
is it or?
Is it
or? Is it an obedience or is it
disobedience?
Is it an act of disobedience or obedience?
It's,
it's a act of obedience. It's a. Yeah.
Okay. The people doing it are intending,
to please Allah with this. Please
Did prophet know about this or he didn't
know about it?
No. It did not exist in the term
of the prophet, peace be upon. No. But
Ali, he had the. Right? He knew that
he had the. He was born. Oh, now.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like,
Now
when he knew it,
did he tell you? So the person is
gonna say there is no that, oh,
He did not he did not tell me
any hadith about celebrating.
We cannot act upon it. Correct. The issue
over here is if and again, this is
their understanding. They say that the beta has
to be divided into 2 categories,
Ta and Masih. Mhmm. But we come and
say that that's not true, actually.
It's it's an obedience.
It is an act of, and let's let's
even take this for example before I get
into that part.
The,
gem of Quran.
Mhmm.
The nubat on the Quran.
All of this the prophet
did not have knowledge that Did not didn't
have knowledge of this.
I did not tell you, oh, my people,
when you get the Quran, please put it
in the Mus'a. Some of you, even Abbas,
please make sure you put nuktas nukat on
it. You know, please put sure you put
the Arab on it. He didn't say that.
Right? So where did they get it? Well,
here's the thing.
The categorization
of any masala,
then you look at it, is it a
obedience?
Is it a disobedience?
Or is it something?
Sharia is indifferent. And in between these categories
comes Mandub and Makru. Yeah. That's how we
understand Sharia.
Right? So when we put that third category,
then it comes from the category of.
Correct. It's.
Okay. It's.
Then then you don't have any masala left.
Yeah. Right? Because you say this is Sharia
is quite on it. And as long as
within that particular action,
we don't do something that is
mohali for Sharia. For example, you know, some
of the,
you know, some of the brothers who were
trying to convince me, they send me some
mawali, then some pictures,
some mawlids where guys and girls are sitting
together one next to one another, and and
they're just like, you know, like moving and
you and I and any sheikh would say,
this is not allowed in our sharia. Yeah.
There's no for us, you know, sitting there
and no. There has to be, girls and
guys are separated,
and and there's no mixing.
No sheikh is gonna allow that mixing. Right?
So from that particular angle go ahead. Want
to say something? Yeah. I wanted to mention
that the concept,
yes.
Eventually,
we do have the hadith of the prophet
all knowledge
all knowledge of the heavens and the earth
were were were placed into my heart. This
is a hadith of an arjib, but Hamdi
has
a booklet on this hadith. So that's one
thing. But
at certain moments, the prophet did express
the rida
is pleasure
of Allah the pleasure of Allah on a
matter which he was not aware of.
And that example of that is,
I hear your footsteps in Jannah.
What are you doing here? Yeah. So what
is it why is Allah making me hear
your footsteps in Jannah? That means clearly you're
doing something nobody else is doing.
So here, Allah has rewarded him for it,
and yet the prophet is asking what was
it. And that was the he does after
every.
Right? How about the one where
the prophet turned around and said, who said
something after?
Oh, yeah. And so the thought they were
maybe, perhaps he's displeased with it. But in
fact, he said there were about 30 Mala'ika
rushing to see who would write it first,
and that was the saying,
So here that's why it doesn't harm us
to say that a particular
matter may not have come up in the
time of the messenger
and
it comes up in our time, and we
believe.
Right? Because it happened in his own time.
Right? It happened in his own time. Yeah.
And then and all of these Sahaba's understood
this. Right? If we look at it, Sheikh,
like,
like and here's the interesting thing. I you
know, and I I was doing this. So
I I have a list that's going on,
like, close
to 123 scholars who are at the of
a half is Mhmm.
Have said that they're okay with this.
Right? They're okay with knowing it.
From the past. And and by the way,
let me tell you something too. When you
read,
you notice he does not like
Taqis al-'am.
Yes.
He does not even like
to say that the
or the
Mandub
to say
3 times in the Quran.
3
times
in sujood. Isn't that what we're all taught?
He said, no. Don't say these things. Any
any number and any sujood.
So don't don't say it has to be
this one, 3 times. This one, 3 times.
He said, don't specify what Allah made vast.
Right? I don't know. Out of fear that
people will think that
the deen specified it.
K? So
when,
Amalekhi from Andalus
says, no. No. I'm hesitant about naming one
day to do.
Right?
This is within the spirit of his.
Right? Just within the spirit. But he
but
we could probably assume
that
the reason is for this spirit, not to
do tuxes of but, nonetheless,
is this
or is this from the of Marik?
It's from is it?
Right. And, Omer Omer, let's bring both screens
back now.
So it's one thing when you say something.
This is very important
that I hold this to be
right or wrong, or not.
Right? Out of
then we respect each other.
In fact, we're just following the.
I hold the this
of these scholars is is
more beneficial
And more sound arguments. Evidence. What's that? More
sound arguments.
Let me let let me take you to
something else. Does not Allah,
again, a matter that's aam
in which we're making taksis of. Sure.
Allah does not Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tell
us.
Of course,
here is a deen Al Quran in Islam.
We are now commanded. Be happy with this.
Commanded.
Right?
How do I have Farah?
Just in my heart or on my actions?
And which Fadlir Rahma?
Fadlir
Rahma.
Fadlir
Rahma.
Yeah. In that in that particular, they've actually
spoken about,
I think close to 7 or 8 7
or 8, maybe 9 different, and they said
all of these are encompassing. Right? And then
you you brought up a very beautiful point,
and I think, you know, this is a
mess
here, but it's really interesting. My my sheikh
used to say that,
they have.
So any difference opinion between jurists
that
leads you to 2 different paths. So one
says go left, the other says no. I
need you to go right. I understand from
this side, we need to go right. The
of Mufasiroun
is called
war.
Right? It it gives us the the variance,
you know, and and if you don't base
it it allows us to understand that, okay,
can actually mean
It can actually mean
All of these things are there.
Now
you look at the permutations.
So if this
could be understood this way, the next
there's a in there. So now you have
one
and then 3 options. Then you take the
next and then 3 options. That's like 37
different So many. Yeah. So many.
So how who am I to come and
confine?
Right? When Allah has given that in the
Quran Okay. Let me ask you about another
from the messenger.
A man mentioned asked him, is it good
to fast on a Monday?
Yes.
The prophet said Said
Yeah.
This is the day that I was born
in. Right? And and and this is beautiful
because if you just take one step before
Musa alaihi salaam, he comes to Medina, he
finds out that the Jews are fasting
on Ashura for Musa alaihi salaam. So what
did he say? So
he could also fast, and we'll fast the
next day. So the question then comes is,
oh, why didn't prophet
command us to fast on a Monday?
Right? In that, he informed the I fast
on a Monday because it is the day
that I was born in. And why was
the command not given? And there's answers that
people have given. The ulama they have said,
one of the answers is, if he had
commanded
out of the that he had for Allah,
he was afraid that Allah might legislate the
entire month as a fast.
SubhanAllah. Right? So they were like, that's the
reason this out of the rahma of prophet
that
when he was asked about Monday,
he didn't say, you please go ahead and
fast on Monday because I was born on
that day. Rather say, that's the day I
fast because, you know, I was born on
that day. And it is out of his
humbleness and love for us and kind care
for us. That's how we understand this ayah.
You know the, for that. Right?
I I I heard a beautiful
perception
on Taraweeh
in which the prophet,
stopped
the after 3 days. He used to pray
in his home
by himself.
The Sahaba came behind him.
1st night,
2nd night more, 3rd night, a lot.
And then we all know the prophet
stopped out of fear of it being perceived
as an obligation.
I heard from one
he said,
the fear of the prophet
was that it was so beautiful, the
that he feared Allah would make an obligation
on his ummah. Subhanallah. And then they wouldn't
be able to carry it. That is Subhanallah.
Right? So If if if if you take
out the ayah,
hadith, I think verse number 27.
If you wanna put it up for the
audience, there's a beautiful aya about this. Right?
Where Allah says,
Surat,
and Hadith, verse number 27. Right? Where Allah
says,
The ones who followed, we is talking about
is that we created in their hearts a
form of love,
a mercy.
Right?
And this this this
of theirs that they they wanted to dedicate
themselves for Allah
I'm I have disconnected
myself from this dunya. I have nothing to
do, no marriage, nothing. So Allah
says, This we had not written on them
to do.
They did it out of
the love of Allah
and His pleasure. But then Allah is rebuking
them not for creating
the but he's telling
them You set yourself some principles that you're
gonna create this new form of act of
devotion
and you didn't live up to your own
standards. Mhmm. Right? So from here, some of
the said that this ayah because sometimes this
is the ayah that is given that, oh,
this is the the leader of the Quran.
Right? But if this is the daleel of
the aya itself is is negating it.
Yeah.
So
it has.
It has. You did it, but you didn't
fulfill the right. That's the problem that you
did. By the way, for people to understand,
does not mean monastic
non non marriage.
Yes.
Here means
he just devoted himself fully,
to Ibadah,
knowledge, and that's it. Right? So just so
that people could understand that,
in
as I was taught it,
it became known as monasticism.
Mhmm. It became known. But at the early
times, it was not I mean, Jurayj, for
example,
he was a Rahib. Right?
Jurayd was a Rahib, and he's praised in
the Quran.
Right? So they they had their own,
rules. And on the Catholic,
the Christian
Is a bit different. It is a bit
different. So there is some discussion about that.
I think, really, the the main point we
wanna bring across is
this dean has a is vast with a
lot of opinions.
When you are promoting something, you have to
understand or or saying something in the community,
you have to understand
that you're saying this as an itchy heady
matter. I have no problem with someone who
says, okay. I'm gonna file a shot to
be on this.
Fine.
Just note that it's an itchy head because
100%. We see the prophet
making tuxis.
So therefore, the day he's born is not
like anything else. This is the day Moses
was saved. That day is not like any
other day. Right? It's not like any other
day. So that is an Ishada for Tuxis.
Mhmm. And we see Malik
having,
a limitation very hesitant
on specifying general matters. Right?
So and we see a Shefaye permitting
Permitting.
Matters such as this specifying and adding, as
we said in the of
of Ahit,
in previous streams. We have a vast religion,
and you cannot
shrink a vast religion except you're just gonna
exhaust yourself.
And I think we wanna be clear that
we're not saying that everything is flexible in
our religion.
Everything is what?
Flexible.
Yeah. Like yeah. Yeah. Like, vastness is in
certain areas where the deen has allowed this
flexibility.
Yep. Yeah. Right? There are areas there are
areas where you and I and all the
4 Medahibs are gonna be agreed on. Even
the the Assari creed is gonna be agreed
on. That there's 5 salas. There's gonna be
this. There's, you know, 4 4 4 rakas
for this. There's there's no you and I
can't come and say, I think, you know
what?
We're we're doing a lot of sins from
tomorrow. I'm gonna bust 2 more in Fajr.
You know? I think we need to, you
know, add 2 more to Fajr. That's where
we stop. There's a red line and there's
no there.
I think it's important to note that,
the Qatari evidences of our religion are like
the trunk.
Yes. Beautiful.
And
the Vanni
interpretations are like the branches. Branches are always
flexible.
So how But the trunk cannot be moved.
If a trunk moves, you have a big
problem.
So how That's such a beautiful Yeah. And
that's what we we need to to focus
on in in bringing our hearts together is
understanding
the branches cannot be a matter of
and there are
and
too.
There's
Many people imagine
is one thing. No. There is there are,
there's a trunk, and there are branches in.
That just came down on the ummah of
q and a that never came up in
the time of the salaf.
Yep. And came up later, and one answered
this way and another answered another way.
Right? And so
this is not gonna be something that,
that there has to be agreement. We're not
gonna be able to solve this. Right? Yeah.
This is this has been around. And I
think on both sides, and I wanna end
this, this would might might be my closing
remarks, and then we can maybe see if
there's any question or something. But the Yes.
Both sides,
when, you know, I was blessed to to
sit with this side, and I still have
friends on and I don't wanna use sides.
They're all Muslims.
And and I get to see with people
with different opinions, and we get to sit
and talk.
And what I actually find something really interesting
is when you talk to the ones,
who, masha'Allah, every Thursday night, they do
of their their adgar and they come for
Maghrib and they will do that, while others
may not do that. But if you sit
with all of them, right, especially the that
comes and sits, you and I know that
that entering Jannah is not showing up on
a Thursday night and and just listening to
some nashid and then sin the entire week.
100%. It it doesn't work like that. And
I I, you know, my sheikh used to
say, if you believe that you're gonna enter
Jannah by bobbing your head every Thursday night,
then you're not making it to Jannah. Subhanahu.
Right? And the other side is that, you
know and both sides, if you ask them,
can you describe to me the eyes of
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam?
They will not be able to. Mhmm. The
ulama might be, but the one who's
doing hold, they're they're getting involved in these
arguments.
The bigger problem they have is they don't
have of Rasulullah.
Right? And that
is the
core of you recognizing
Rasulullah and when we're there for the weekend,
my talk is about that that that it
doesn't matter what you are. Let's put let's
put aside all the disputes. Mhmm. Can we
all agree to this idea that we all
have a major
deficiency
in our of
and the answer is yes. I will be
the first one to say that I don't
I don't have I have not given the
hap of Rasulullah's
with the amount of books I have in
my library. I have not read them all.
Super. I haven't given that hap.
Right? So then we don't have right to
fight. I don't even know him enough.
Let's let's focus on knowing him. And let
me,
also mention one thing. As, Omar, we can
now start to shift the camera so that
we can include our second guest whom you'll
meet tomorrow,
From Seattle,
Chefei. Chefeis today. Two Chefeis. Hey. Since we
have 2 Chefeis, why don't we advertise a
Chefei
track
with our
other beloved Chefei, Sheikh Mahdiilak.
Burn that up when you're ready,
and we could start shifting the camera to
bring all 3 of us in the in
the on the stream.
I'm not rush. I'm here.
And in the meantime, I want to,
was gonna mention,
I just lost my train of thought. You
were you were saying,
mhmm,
yes. I was saying the sign of a
bad intention
is to only look at the bad apples
of the opposite opinion. Right?
And I think everyone's at some point in
time maybe have been guilty of that.
Oh, okay. If you're right, if your roots
are right, why are you producing this miserable
fruit? Right? If you go that route, everyone
is gonna be wrong. Right?
If you really go that route, everyone's gonna
be wrong. And to me, it's a sign
of a bad intent.
You're literally just trying to find a way
to show to embarrass your other person.
And this is one of the things that
it's it's a madamun behavior.
Right? It's not a good The weakest argument.
Weakest argument. Yeah. It's a madamun behavior. You
could just as easily find the the fudalah
of of of your opponent's side. And, again,
the question is,
we're not coming to establish the truth here.
We are Khudam
sub subservient
servants
of Allah and his messenger to the capacity
that we can as we are taught by
our teachers.
Mhmm. K?
And that's it. Leave it to Allah to
decide who's gonna be raised and who's gonna
be lowered. Which group The power of Allah.
Is their word is gonna be strong in
society. Which group is gonna be weak? And
so many people have a
I'm telling you, it's
When they see the, an opposing opinion being
said that they don't like, they become so
angry. The root of that anger is.
Allah will that group exists.
That doesn't mean it's correct or incorrect,
but it you must begin by accepting that.
Allah has willed it for a wisdom that
he has. You must accept that. After you
accept that, now you can ask what is
the mashruah
reaction? What is the reaction that the Sharia
commands me to have?
For sure. That's it. You are you it's
not up to you who Allah elevates or
doesn't elevate. Don't get angry who Allah elevates
or doesn't anger elevate.
And that's what we do. We kinda get
that from the LGBTQ training, by the way,
just so you know. Or as you say,
lick ridicule. The Ligbtq. Yeah. The Ligbtq. We
get that from the Ligbtq you train, which
is we'd look at the actions of of
individual, and then we apply it to the
entire subset.
Mhmm. We cannot do that. Right? With and
then that's the train that's how they're trained
us. Right? Oh, and then they're like, oh,
all of you are like that. Yeah. Exactly.
That's not how it works. Right? That's not
how it works. Anyhow, may Allah give us
the All 3 of them. Give us yeah.
And and you know what? I wanna just
little bit elaborate on Madifa, and then we
will be there on the weekend Insha'Allah.
So Madifa
of Rasulullah SAWSALAM is built on 5 sciences.
These are called.
Yeah. That was the original intended intended course
that we were going to do, Insha'Allah.
How are you doing?
How are you doing?
So nice to see you.
Yeah. I think you're gonna have to move.
You can go on, Shirk Ahmed. The the
5 points of
Sure. So of Rasulullah
is is is number 1 is
Right?
Is basically where you have
that you travel through the chronological
order of prophet's
life. The second part of
is and this is the that everybody knows.
Right? He
was born on this day. This happened, this
happened, this happened, this happened, and he met
and he,
sallallahu alaihi wasallam, he met Rafiq. So this
is the the the siala. This is the
chronological siala. The second part of the siala
of nabi, Ullum and Nabawiyah is Shanal.
Shanal is the characteristics of Rasulullah Sallallahu Alaihi
Wasallam,
Aqal Anjal,
Adaj, all these character the eyes of prophet
sallallam, they were
almond eyed, they were extremely white and extremely
black. All of these
these descriptions, for example, the hair of prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam, they were either a wafra
or a limma or a jumma. Right? So
all of these wafra is when it's up
to the ear, limma is in between your
your earlobe to shoulder, and jumma is when
it goes past your shoulders. So these characteristics
tells us a little bit about prophet
on his physical as well as his spiritual
characteristics in Shamal. Then you have the next
part which is the Khasais of Nabi sallallahu
alaihi wa sallam. These are special rulings and
I tell this this is the the chapter
that CNN and Fox News loves the most.
Right? Because they're like, oh, how did he
do this? And how did he do this?
And that don't make sense. And I'm like,
yeah. But he's a prophet.
Right? Inch isn't isn't your guy who was
being charged with felony running for the presidency?
Why do you get that? Right? Like, I'm
like, don't come and tell me that you
there there are exceptional rules for leaders. You
have exceptional rules for leaders all the time
that a president cannot be tried.
Right? It cannot be thrown into a prison
prison. Why do you have these exceptional rules?
Then Rasulullah SAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWSAWS.
These are unique things that belong to prophet
SAWSAWSAWSAWSAWS.
Then you have the
the then you have the dala'il of Nabi
salallahu alaihi wa sallam. These are the evidentiary
grounds on which you and I can prove
to myself
and my heart and your heart and to
convince ourselves that prophet sallam is
in actual Nabi. And these dada'il, again, there's
there are categorizations of these dada'il, and we're
not gonna get into that. And the last
part is the fada'il of Nabi sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam.
Right? The fada'il of Nabi Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam, how he was superior to every
single nabi that has come.
Right? For example an example of that, and
I'll I'll I'll give that back to you
guys. For example, Rasulullah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, Allah
says in the Quran, when Musa Alaihi Salam,
he came to the sea and his entire
nation was there. What did he say?
Four things. When prophet
was in the in the cave,
he what did he say? He said,
The they took these 3, these ayah, and
they said this tells us that Rasulullah,
his understanding of Allah
was of a higher level than Musa alaihi
salam.
Why? Because he,
for example, Musa alaihi salam, when he comes
to the
the the the sea, he says what? That,
He uses the word rab. Allah
says,
he uses Subhanallah.
Right? Subhanallah. Higher. Then Subhanallah.
Musa alayhi salaam
Who bought this?
Who who Who is
this? Right?
And and then the next part,
Musa Alaihi Salam call Mahia with me. With
Musa Alaihi Salam, his entire nation was behind
him, but he forgot them. With prophet
he was in the in the cave. How
many people were there in the cave?
2. Should have been in
the Nah.
But he used the word.
Even the
He remembered
you and I in that
we will never understand prophet sallallahu alaihi wa
sallam.
You okay. Let's say them again. You said
as Siratuh, Shamaylu, Khasa Isu. I'll send you
the text. I'll send Fadahu alaihi. I'll
send you the slide, but it's Shamayhi
proofs of prophethood. Proofs of prophethood. Yes. And
that's so important. I think that should that's
so important for especially So
has been divided. If you study the they
have been divided into 3 categories. They've been
divided into
No. The that came before he became.
Then there were that happened during the life
of Rasulullah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, and there are
that are happening till today. No. No. And
there is that is still to come. There
is still to come. And I'm waiting on
1. Categories?
There, sorry. Go ahead. I don't wanna cut
you off. Yeah. No. So these are the
the 3 categories, and each one
numerous examples of evidences
that Rasulullah is the true messenger exists. You're
saying you're waiting for 1? I'm waiting for
1 that I believe will happen in our
lifetime, and I don't mean to be gross
or anything, but
it's
it's gonna be a proof of profit. And
I like to say it often now because
people
they're gonna see it someday.
And that is the prophet
said, a time will come
when people will fornicate
right in the streets. You were gonna go.
I I've actually been saying this to my
community.
Yeah. I generates Yeah. It already has come.
The last
parade. Subhash. The last the parade. Even yesterday,
what happened on Instagram where somebody came live
on Instagram and then there was, like, one
of these scenes happened live. They did it
live and they had to block Instagram.
And it already happened in the parade in
California Yeah. Where there were guys and girls,
like, there was nothing. And the police was
okay with it, and there were young children.
They were being brought to say, in the
name of love, they need to see all
of this. That's insane. So it's it's already
happening. And,
think just think about it logically. A generation,
the second or third generation now, raised on
Internet *.
Right? That means he was raised on it.
His dad was raised on it. His grandfather
was raised on it. What the heck is
so what what is the big deal
with this? There's no
the has been
trampled on for 50 years now.
That's gonna happen someday. Right?
So for for why would you have an
issue with that? Like, why would anyone have
an issue with this being done in public?
Right?
So those kids who are attending those parades,
it's like abuse. Right? But
those kids,
when they become managers of making decisions and
they become people in,
townships
who make these laws, these local laws.
And they say, my mom took me there.
What's the problem? Right? Because he's gonna judge
his morality based on what his mom and
dad did with him. And this example of
that happened to me today. I went to
a coffee shop. The men's bathroom was closed,
and it says use the next door bathroom.
Yeah. So I went up to the lady,
and I said I need to use the
bathroom, but that's a girl's bathroom. And she
was like, this is fine.
And I was like I was like, no.
It's not fine. Like, I don't wanna use
the girl's bathroom. Yeah. And she and then
but this is that 3rd generation that was
brought up on that. Yeah. So she did
not find anything wrong in telling me to
go and use the lady. This has happened
to me today in the coffee shop. SubhanAllah.
Right? So this is exactly what you're saying,
that these things are gonna eventually, you know,
harm us. But again, inshallah, in our when
I we're there, I wanna share more light
on this inshallah on these 5 sciences.
And and the intention was that we would
come and teach a metin on this in
Darul Fath,
but then we switched it to Surah Kahab
because a lot of people, you know, and
you were not gonna be there because I
needed you to be there because we would
have learned and then I wanna rip off
of your energy insha Allah. Now we'll make
it a time for our guests as as
well. He's been very patient, masha'Allah.
May Allah
give you bless you, Sheikh, you know, for
coming from Seattle all the way.
Masha'Allah. We have with us Sheikh Asadullah.
He is from, Seattle originally.
You're not here in the studio. I mean,
Omar made me look,
we're all even here. But Sheikh Hasidullah
could have maybe possibly been in the NBA,
but instead, he went on a different journey.
1st, as a Pentecostal
preacher,
then now as a Dail to Islam.
Speaking about dala'il, proofs of prophethood,
let's ask you a simple question.
How did you go
from Pentecostal
preacher
to now a Muslim? What were the
of Islam and of the prophet, peace be
upon him,
that,
made that happen?
Good luck.
Yeah. So
I think
what changed my life, I think, was seeing
people,
who carried the banner and held up the
message.
And I think the the most beautiful thing
about Islam is that we have the senate
that goes back to the prophet Muhammad,
which differs from every other religion out there
in the world.
And,
I think, you know, the first first Muslims
that I met were in,
were in Turkey
and visited them and and saw them and
kept asking, like, why are they doing this?
Why are they doing this? Why are they
doing this?
And so they kept telling me, oh, this
is from the sunnah of the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
And it just begin to,
change my life because at the same time,
you're always looking,
I think, as a human for another way
and a better way. Mhmm. And you're looking
for examples of how to,
you know, get closer to your Lord.
And so I think I found myself,
kind of hitting a a peak or a
pinnacle
and then wanting to go more. And so
then when I saw these things, I said,
oh, man.
You know, these these people, I've got to,
I've gotta try to now convert them and,
what what I I used to use to
to convert people and make them,
into Christians,
begin to use the same rules on myself.
And and, before I knew it, my love
for the prophet Muhammad alaihi wasalam had grown
to the point where it
it had, you know,
toppled that of what I had for the
for the prophet,
Isa Alaihi Salam.
And then I said to myself, like, you
know, how how am I calling myself now
a follower of him when I'm really following
in reality,
Islam. Subhanahu. And and through, you know, and
the life of the prophet, mama, mama, mama,
mama.
You know, the emulation of the
the prophet,
the way that the Muslims have now emulated
the life of the prophet by the the
the, you know, by the life that he
lived. And I think that's another aspect that
that beautifies Islam and separates it from other,
religions,
specifically those from.
So you you live in Tareem now, and
and, Omar, we could go to the 3
screen.
You live in Tareem or you,
are moving back. Are you staying still in
Tareem? I'm I'm yeah. I'm in the process
of moving back. Okay. Yeah. So when you
lived there,
what was the biggest takeaway
of how they connect people's hearts to the
messenger
because that's the point and that's one of
their biggest goals
is connecting the heart to the prophet, peace
be upon him. So what are some of
the methods
utilized
in doing so? Yeah. I think that they,
you know, they they try to emulate, the
seer of the prophet
in their everyday life.
So they have a community and the community
revolves around whatever,
you know, that time of the year that
is happening. So for example, this whole month,
there will be,
not just one molot a day, but there
will be multiple molot. Yep. So that it
it will be a continual,
you know, entrenchment
and infusion of of, you know,
singing and and,
and reciting,
the,
and the, you know, and these,
these kind of,
traditions,
traditional, like,
poems and things like that that have been
passed down to the tradition. When you say,
are you talking about
can you tell us, like, what does that
even mean? What is the sitting like? What
are they saying? What are they reading for
someone doesn't under may may not know what
that means? Yeah. So most of it goes
back
to,
eyes of the Quran,
goes back to the hadith of the problem
prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. Or it
goes back to that of,
you know, the first
the first people, we would say, like the
lovers, the Sahaba Mhmm. And the tradition that
has been passed down and,
and from the beginning all the way till
till today. So it's a recitation
of some verses. It's a recitation of
some
description of the prophet, peace be upon him,
and it's
a recitation of some Sira of the prophet,
peace be upon him.
And so in that, there's a little bit
of everything that,
Sheikh Ahmed just talked about. He mentioned 5
things
to attain the madhafah of the prophet, sallallahu
alaihi wa sallam, and this is what's saying
Muhammad Al-'Alul
Malik he called.
Mhmm. And he said it's his Sira, which
is his biography, his Shama'il, his physical
description, and his characteristics,
personality personal characteristics.
Or sorry. For,
the proofs of his prophethood.
No.
Number 4,
how is he unique to other prophets?
And then lastly, the the
virtues
of,
the virtues of the prophet himself, the virtues
of
following his sunnah, etcetera.
And his superiority over other. And his superiority
over other. And No. And so would you
would it be accurate to say,
that
a moored gathering is supposed to put all
this together
in a single gathering
and possibly
even an enjoyable gathering because it's put into
verse
that can be sung.
And the salawat and the prophet are done
through the chorus of those verses. Is that
a fair assessment of how Absolutely. Of what
a mawat is? And the beauty of the,
you know, the the rhythm and it gets
stuck into your head. Mhmm. And, you know,
it's like that,
you know, that tune that can't get out
and just continually
goes through your, you know, goes through your
mind. So
Shagham, do you think it's fair to say
that it's a pedagogical method? I mean, the
other day,
I had one of my kids
singing a song about the periodic table, another
one singing a song about the Spanish alphabet.
Right? So these are pedagogical methods, techniques. Yeah.
Yes. Right? Like, who wants to sit there
and memorize a periodic table? But if you're
gonna give me a song,
right, and I'm just gonna replay it over
and over, It's gonna stick in my head.
Yeah. So is it fair to say that
these mawalids are educational
and they're pedagogical methods
to to make it easy, make it go
down easy. Right? 100%. And it's also it
also does a foundational
understanding of of of of of that child
about who he is trying to emulate. Yeah.
So and that my only feedback here is
that I think, you know, my my dear
friend Sheikh Abdullah Misra has written that Sira
song. Right? He's a really good friend of
mine. Yeah. Right? We almost chat, like, every
other day. And we were, you know, we're
talking about various things, and I think that's
where he said, I need to bring a
Sera concise song that can be sung for
English because that it's not it's not realistic
to expect every Muslim living in America to
learn Arabic. Yeah. But the we must now
translate,
for example, aqida as a salahiyyah. Right? That
that was written and gifted to Salahuddin Ayubi,
and then it was taught to children who
were 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Mhmm. Right?
It's really funny today you have certain that
will teach this Aqida,
for people who are in their thirties, and
they will come back to me and they're
like, oh, you know, I did this special
Aqida
text Allahu
Akbar
and I'm like that's for 8 year olds.
Yeah. Yeah. What what do you what do
you want to? Because it's also marketing. That
Mahad is that institute is marketing themselves as
like I'm doing something
that nobody has done and I'm gonna teach
you this like, you know, and and you're
gonna be like Allah
You Allah. This is the
I'm like, that's the
Yeah. That's about it.
You know, I was thinking that in the
history of the the the this,
the olema
began
by simply
reciting the siddiq. Somebody asked when did the
first millet happen and where.
We can't necessarily say because it started off
as a mere reading of the and
in
the public.
And
when we say in the public,
Masajid used to have huge courtyards
and then the the covered space just like
Masjid al Nabi.
Aleema would have chairs or seats at pillars
and they would recite and they would read.
So it began as classes only.
After a while,
they started to put the to verse
because still people
would would the the melal would occur.
The boredom would occur just hearing a lesson.
So they started putting it to verse and
reciting different
poetry,
summarizing the same story of the prophet's life
and his description and the major events that
happened and his teachings, etcetera.
And that developed after that. Okay. So you're
still passive though. You're listening to a poem
and that's in their world, they love that.
Right?
Couple generations later, it's still passive. So he's
just sitting and he's not,
doing anything except listening.
So the they put the solavat
in the middle
so that you could recite a line of
poetry that is what we would now call
a chorus in the middle
and so on and so forth, all for
the sake of
getting the message across. If you look at
educational methods
and one of the olema isham,
he he spoke about how
the mutun
differ
and the texts that we study, the writing
style differs
from one generation to the next.
Until today, we have totally different textbooks. You
write a PhD thesis. It's totally different than,
let's say, on,
Johar Sito, Johar Sito, Johar Sito.
Right?
And so
in their time, there was a there was
a.
Then they had the didactic poem written in
the.
Right? Today, if you hand in
or a as a PhD, it's gonna be
rejected. Right?
So what we're noticing here is that the
way to get the message across differs every
generation.
Mhmm.
And it's simply that over time, the way
to get a message across to people
is
that that's what they're trying to do with
the moment, the method of getting the same
concept across to people.
Right? And I think that's really how simple
it is.
And and again, today,
the most powerful way to get across the
message,
but the most powerful way to get the
message across is,
cinema and film medium. Subhanallah. And as Muslims,
we're really behind on them. Yeah. We're really
behind them. Yeah. I remember meeting,
you know, one of my my teachers at
that time, and then he took me. Obviously,
I was not at that caliber at that
time where I'm not no caliber at all
today, but, like, the sheikh is like, let's
go and meet Sheikh Salman Alaudam. Right? He
is one of the, you know I again,
like, he's one of the most prominent speakers
who, you know, went from being extreme into
a more middle path and then started sitting
with. And he said
and all of that, and he's a very
knowledgeable person. And
he was on the board
of that series that was, Omar series
from, Dubai, if you remember the Omar series
that came out on YouTube. Yeah. What did
he say about it? So he said that,
you know what?
They got such a pushback from within the
Muslim community.
How could you be on sitting with these
and
these are like and he's like, listen.
This is the dua of the time. If
we can create a
focused on Omar and through which teach Sira
and I tell people, you wanna see Sira
lived,
go and watch the Omar series with subtitles.
SubhanAllah.
It it it's it's amazing. Your kids will
visualize the scene of Tata. They will visualize
these because it it that's how they are
stimulated. Yeah. So Maya and Nasheed and poetry
today was supposed to be stimulating but we
have such high level of stimulation that that
becomes now boring for people. Mhmm. Right? Mhmm.
Yeah. Yeah. My my point that I was
gonna say too is that, you know, a
melody, it transcends generations.
Yes. So I think language changes and meanings
change as time goes.
But the way to preserve that is by
through the melody. Mhmm. And the child will
remember that when he's young,
and the the language of that then will
be introduced to him slowly.
Mhmm.
And I think it's not realistic to expect
everyone to
to understand Arabic. I mean, even somebody who
studied it for many years,
it it still is gonna be a struggle
for it to become the language of his
heart. Mhmm. So I think to reiterate, like,
his point about, you know, you you know,
making things in English, I think, is very,
very important, and we need to have,
inspiration and be inspired as Muslims
and begin to,
you know, as these things are are happening
in our life and as we're reading and
as we're being inspired,
from the hand of Allah,
you know, taking these things that have been
transmitted and and these things that have been
given to us and articulating them in a
way that is, you know,
speaking directly into the hearts of, you
know, the of the public, the the general
public,
you know, and speaking, you know,
directly into the mind even of somebody who
maybe doesn't that doesn't even necessarily understand who
is the prophet Muhammad SAW. When I got
to the airport, the woman said, what is
your purpose of your visit? I said, it's
to celebrate the birth of the prophet.
She said, what you know, what does this
mean? And I explained it to her. And
she said, wow. That sounds like a really
amazing, you know, experience and celebration.
And I, you know, and I said, yeah.
It is. You know? And it's all it's
happening all over America.
And it the In other words, you're missing
out if you're not a part of it.
You know?
And what what about this what you said
is,
Matt, the the melody is far more moving.
It's much more powerful than what you think.
Yeah. Far more powerful than words. Because it
transcends. Even somebody
who can listen to it,
even not even understanding the words can get
it and be into it Mhmm. And begin
to, like you said, like, shifting the head
and and moving of the limbs and things
like this where the heart is beginning to
be moved and not even understanding. I mean,
how many of us listen to the Quran
for the first time? I heard the Quran
for the first time when I was 27
years old. Subhanallah. And the the the the
and then I heard it for the first
time, you know,
probably in the city of Konya in in
Turkey.
And,
you know, just listening for this time, I
stopped, and I said, what is this? Sabah.
Is this the call to prayer? I said,
like, where's the where's the place where people
pray? I wanna go. Sabah. And then you
grab these doors that are so heavy that
are, you know, these, like, almost like their
skins or something like this. And you you
peel it back and you kinda walk in,
and and it's just you know, there's just
something that is just drawing you. And what
was it? It was that melody and that
beautiful tone because there was no understanding of
the word.
You notice the Quran cannot be recited monotonously.
Yeah. The rules of Tajweed and Med will
not allow for it. Yeah. And somebody could
be listening to what Aya, and it's telling
him that, you know, literally, it's talking about
going to *, and he, you know, he's
smiling because he It's a problem. It's just
beautiful.
Sabrina. And that that's the that's the level
of the, you know, the eloquency of, of
of, you know, the.
Sabrina. No. The melody is something Allah created
that it enters the heart, and it has
to be used because our enemies are using
it. Is not Iblis using it
nonstop?
Right?
And is it is it lawful? That's the
first question we have to ask because not
every date technique that Iblis uses we can
use. Right? Is it lawful to have melody
in the time of the prophet, sallallahu alaihi
salam, Hassam bin Thevet?
Is it imagined that Hashem bin Thevet used
to recite his poems monotonously,
or did he use the ancient melodies?
Right? And they had so many melodies.
All their melodies were derived from,
riding with camels for hours at night doing
nothing. Right? And certain melodies would And that's
what they would do. Camels Sure.
Go ahead, Sheikh Ahmed. Certain melodies would actually
get the camel
move walking faster. Yeah. The prophet said to
the sahaba, change your melody because the camels
are getting excited and there are women in
the camel. Amazing, SubhanAllah. So take it take
it easy.
SubhanAllah. So so the
the the the the beasts are moved by
it. You cannot a human being is not
a human being even more moved? Because you're
you're mixing melody and words now. Right? And
higher order meanings.
Higher order meanings like meeting
the messenger
at
the.
Right? I can tell you that. I could
put it in a melody. Which one is
gonna actually totally take you there? It's the
melody. No doubt about it. It's gonna totally
It's gonna be the first thing. It's gonna
be first thing. It's gonna take you there.
And,
you know, they talk about
when they talk about the standing for the
prophet, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, this is also
if we're gonna be legal, it's differed upon.
No doubt about it. No discussion there. But
My masha'id did not do it. Just They
didn't do it. For you. Yeah. They didn't
do it in Assaf. They didn't do it
in Assaf. Yeah.
They did not allow it, Assaf. And then
Shoaafa
have some debates on it? Yeah. They do.
Yeah. Yeah. But
what
the those when you when people see that,
what is the purpose of that is you
one day will see Rasulullah
SAW.
Beautiful.
Do not we have
little every Islamic school in Dhul Hijjah? Alright.
Let's build a little cardboard Kaaba. Let's put
on Haram, and let's pretend we're doing tawaf,
and then we're gonna do sa'ih, and then
we're gonna go over there. That's. That's Arafa.
Right? I don't know. And they were, like,
in a gym or something. Right? Mhmm. Because
when you enact something, it touches your heart.
Someday, you're gonna meet the messenger of Allah
at the. What would that mess what would
that meeting be like?
And that's why they established the qiyam
when the salah and the prophet is recited.
It's like almost
a preparation for that. Like, if your physical
if your spiritual heart is not moving, then
at least be moved physically.
Yeah. Exactly. If your heart's not moving first
of all, there are many,
reasons they do the. First of all, it
changes things up. Some of these medalles, 2
hours. Yeah. You need to stretch at some
point. Right? So that's one reason.
2nd reason,
wake up your attention. Right? You may have
been drifted off. 3rd reason that is most
profound, someday you're gonna meet.
That's that's
imagine what that meeting is gonna be like.
Right? Yeah.
You know?
Right. So that's what the You know, you
guys were talking about this this mute, you
know,
sound and stuff like that, and I remembered
I had posted something. Yeah. And this is
like when I was doing the class for
teenagers, and they were like,
you know, we just wanna listen to all
of this music. Like, we just wanna listen
to that. Right? And then it is really
something. There's something called art of sound and
there's a hierarchy of sound. Right? And this
is research paper and this was shared to
me by a musician.
So a musician shared this to me. So
he said, for example,
the highest form
of of sound that moves
the soul is the revelation.
It's the subhanallah.
Right? The recitation of the Quran, nothing moves
the heart even people who don't understand,
they're like, wait a minute. What is this?
This is so unique. I just wanna know.
Right? The second thing is what you just
mentioned, CD, Adan.
Adan is right below the Quran.
So Adan and the recitation
that we do during the prayers,
those are really moving. That's the second level.
Yeah. Level number 3 is something called traditional
Dhikr, whether you wanna do a Jannahi, whether
you wanna do it together, chanting, all of
those, adkab, asbakna, asbakna, asbakna, al you know,
all of that creates this rhythm and that's
the third level of sound in terms of
our positive effect to our heart. The third
is the 4th is devotional poetry and the
sheets.
3rd is devotional poetry and the sheets, whatever.
Then historical poetry and storytelling,
this is neither good or bad. This is
good, but, you know, you can capture all
of the the
of of the the Kaaba in in Yemen,
the Kaaba in in Sarudia, and these they
they, you know, Hashem Mari is like this
and when he takes out his hand, like,
they they are praising their Kaaba.
Then the next ones is which we have
to be worried about. Number 1, the next
one is is is is is hard metal
instrumental music.
That's demonic in its nature. Yeah. Then you
have music
with historic so do you have music with
historical, political, or serious messages?
So there's music that is created, but the
purpose of that music is they're trying to
get a they're trying to move a nation
or they're trying to move some, like, all
these Like nationalist stuff. Pakistan,
and it's in pro in Jansan music and
stuff like that, that is happening. The last
2 which are something we should avoid all
the time which is, which is music that
is driven
in the rhythm and in the text and
in the lyrics to create emotions in you,
I. E. Emotions of love, hate, sadness,
and last one is the hedonistic emotions that
are created. So if we understand this, so
we have a variance.
Now when we come and talk to a
person that he's at a hedonistic level, level
8, you come and tell him I want
you to move to level 1 Quran. SubhanAllah,
it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work.
You guys It could not, maybe it won't
work. Yeah. It would, it would, it could
work, Allahu'ala. Yeah. But it's it's if he's
drenched in it, like he's he's
fully involved in it, and you say let's
leave you from hedonistic and we're gonna take
you to the highest form of spiritual rhythm.
Yeah. Yeah. He's gonna be like, wait a
minute. I don't wanna do that. It's odd.
His body is not used to it. Right?
It's just like you go to the gym
and lifting £300 of bench press. Right? Not
gonna happen. Right? It's it's not gonna happen
for me. It's not it's not you can
get there. It won't be sustained though. Yeah.
It won't be sustained. That means I would
need to lift £20.
That means we'll have to tell him, okay.
Can you one day a week let go
of that music? 2 days a week let
go. And then we have to help those
people Yeah. Out of that into the more
spiritual realm, and these these these gatherings are
a great way of bringing those people that
are lost in that into wait a minute.
I can fight to this. This is pretty
good.
Right? It's a 100% what you're saying to
make so much sense. It's not saying that
the Quran will not have an impact.
But
from a pragmatic standpoint, if someone is entrenched
in music
okay. To completely strip it away from him
and say only take the Quran,
it
likely, from what we've seen, they'll have a
bounce back, severe bounce back.
But if you were to allow for him
a gap there where he could have something
that's
lawful,
even at the edge of lawfulness. Right? Sure.
At the edge of lawfulness.
Type of Yes. Yes. Nasheeds.
It's gonna be an easier transition from what
many people have experienced.
Right? Now let me ask a question. This
question for Sheikh Hasidullah has come in from
YouTube.
The prophet
said do not
overpraise me or, abandon
or the burruta itself says abandon what the
Christians have claimed about their prophet.
And
what about the did not the prophet, peace
be upon him, do not,
overpraise me? Do not treat me as the
Christians treated Jesus? So how
is with these
gatherings,
you said multiple times a week or a
day,
they talk about the prophet, peace be upon
him. How do you answer that question?
I I think the maybe in the context
of what the board is talk what he's
talking about here when he's talking about the
is he's talking about the
of of that they're contributing that part,
the Christians to him. Yes. Because there's another
part of the where he says, like, if
you just drop this, the
like, the way that they're thinking about their,
you know, this prophet, is the same way
that we're thinking about our beloved Muhammad, sallallahu
alaihi wa sallam.
So it's it's
the rendering the prophet divine
is the problem. So let me ask a
question.
Allah and his angels make salawats on the
prophet.
And what that means, the salawat of Allah
is a bestowal of all good
on the prophet, peace be upon.
For
and for us Yeah.
We are taking from that. Yeah. Good. Our
our salaw on the prophet is taking. Yes.
Some said, yes. It is a du'at for
the prophet, peace be upon him, but don't
imagine you're benefiting him. Him. Take this bottle
of water and put it in the Atlantic
Ocean.
Technically, I added to the ocean, but really,
I didn't. Right?
What is all human beings on the face
of the earth making salawats on the prophet?
But Allah has done it once.
If it was only once. But Allah says
constantly, nonstop is Allah bestowing blessings
and all good on the prophet, peace be
upon.
Angels are doing it. How long do the
angels live?
From when they're created until the day of
judgment. Angels don't have lifespans. There's no such
thing as an old angel
in age that can't walk anymore, can't move.
They live from when they're created all the
way until the the Allah just wills that
all the creation will die.
So if they're making those salawats on the
prophet for eons
and we're making salawats on the prophet, salawat,
for a small life, you live say you
live 80 years.
In 80 years,
if you did salawats on the prophet, peace
be upon him, every other day, all day,
which nobody does, that's 40 years of salawats.
Well, there are that are 40000 years old.
So how is it that you've overdone it?
Right?
So Imam Hadad has a beautiful thing. He
said, the only time that a virtue must
stop
is at the location of another virtue.
Salawats and the prophet stops when the obligatory
prayer comes in.
And in the obligatory prayer of salawats, in
the even is salawats,
in the dua after that, then is salawats,
in the tashahu al salawats. So Right?
Memorizing Quran Memorize the Quran must stop
at the prayer. Right? It must stop at
certain things. So a virtue only
it can never be too much. It only
is when it intercedes over another virtue
or, interferes with another obligation.
So if you're on Instagram, listen up. Head
over. Hey, Omer, are we on YouTube this
today or no? Yeah. We have, like, 2
of you. Okay. Good.
Listen. If you're on Instagram and you can't
see all of us, I am with
Sheikh Asadullah Kierley
and Sheikh Ahmed Salim. Sheikh Asadullah is from
Seattle. If you're from the West Coast,
he's gonna be
your imam there. I mean,
from the Abedad of the West.
Inshallah. West Coast.
He's gonna be your,
person to go to if you're in Seattle.
Wasn't it Waleed in Seattle? Yeah. Right? Waleed
was in Seattle and me is he still
there?
When he lives back here. Right? Yeah. So
he was in Seattle. So Sheikh
will be there. Which Masjid are you near?
That Really? Someone wants to bump into you.
Where would they go? Right now, I'm not
actually close to any Masjid. Oh, Ajib. Yeah.
Okay. We're okay. But I'm yeah. We're we're
we're trying to build one up in the
Mount Vernon area, which is actually between the
closest Masjid. You're looking at about 2:2 and
a half hours driving. Oh, so you need
to build your own Masjid. Yeah. I'm a
I'm a big supporter in building a a
public open Masjid for everyone to pray in
because
it attracts foot traffic. You just gotta build
it right. The youth center gym
actually to me takes priority because you can
pray there and have youth activities there. Right?
Like, the gym is amazing, the most important
thing, little kitchenette
area and the mussala, but you also need
a place for classes because if women do
not enter the mussala,
1 week a month, they can only take
classes. Right? So in an area that is
not the for classes.
So is it built right? That's all you
need. Right?
And then,
Sheikh Ahmed Salim is from Atlanta. People are
asking, who are these gusts? Sheikh Ahmed Salim
is the 2nd time on the livestream.
And you should listen to the first one.
When he speaks, you learn all the time.
Sheikh Hasidullah, tell us about your dawah. You
are
a convert yourself from Christianity.
You should be the best one to be
able to talk to other Christians. Tell us
about that.
It's,
I think dua,
you know, is about being real to yourself,
first of all. You cannot give away what
you do not have. SubhanAllah. And so you
you have to first receive something from Allah.
Mhmm. And
I think that,
many people have the misconception of Dua as
being arguing and basically picking apart other people's
religion
at the sake of trying to uplift themselves.
And in reality,
the moment that you begin to argue with
somebody, they're just gonna put a wallet. Oh,
wow. So the best way you know, one
of the I've seen more people become Muslim
through food than I've seen, which is amazing
because you guys have this, soup kitchen, which
is
It's a beautiful
and I think one of the things that
my teacher taught me as well is that
you can't begin to, which which was Habib
Omar,
there in Tareem, is he says, you know,
you can't meet somebody's spiritual needs without first
meeting their physical needs. Amazing. Amazing.
So,
you know, you have to be able to
you you have to be present with that
person, and you have to understand their situation
and where they're at. Yeah. And I think
you have to focus on the things that
you guys have in common.
And then because the deen of Islam is
a mohit, it's an ocean. Yep. And it
encompasses
it encompasses all of the ocean all of
the religions
as this ocean. So what you look for
is you look for a hole within their
life or an emptiness or a brokenness or
you're looking for
somewhere that they don't have an answer.
And I guarantee you, if you've understood Islam
or you you take the the the the
questions that this person has asked, you take
it to one of the.
You ask them questions. You say, like, how
can I help this person? They will give
you answers that will fill all the gaps.
And in doing that, what you're doing is
is you're now not only making that person
a better person because you're empowering them to
take control of their life and they're make
you're you're making them but you're also making
them follow after the prophet Muhammad.
And then by doing that, they're becoming Muslim.
You know, and and and describing things to
to people and and saying things to people,
you know, that are just, you know,
sometimes it's just them asking a question, and
you answer them. And the next thing that
you know, they begin to follow whatever you've
said.
And it's these little footsteps that are gonna
lead somebody,
into, you know, a deeper relationship with their,
with with Allah. And and, you know, inshallah,
we'll we'll take them,
into the, into the.
And, actually, I met a guy in Seattle.
He actually came to a masjid one day,
and he said,
you know, I, I'm a prophet. So he
went right to the imam. And this is
right after I had, I had become a
Muslim.
And I I remember I was holding the
Quran. I couldn't even read it at the
time, you know.
But I was just holding it because it
was, you know, obviously so precious.
And he went to the imam, and he
starts giving him the whole spiel. And the
next thing that I know that about 20
minutes later, the imam comes to me and
he says like I said, I need your
help. So he's like, can you sit and
talk to this guy? I said,
No. No problem. And so he sits down
with me and he says, like, I wanna
tell you about this. I'm a prophet. And,
you know, if you confess all of your
sins and God is gonna get close to
you and he starts, you know, giving me
this whole spiel that, like, you know, you
would you would find it, like, as a
cookie cutter,
conversation with pretty much any of these kind
of, you would say, radicals or fanaticals or
people who kind of, you know, have got
on some kind of a whim.
And after he sat there and talked for
about 5 minutes, I just let him I
just let him finish. And then as soon
as I I said, are you done? I
said, can I say something to you? And
he said, sure. And he said I said,
the difference between us and you, I said,
is that you believe that by confessing what
is wrong, you can come to something that
is right. And I said, we believe
as Muslims that by confessing what is right,
that is what enables us then to now
be close to our Lord. And I said,
That's the way that we just get close
to our Lord. And then through that, then
there's the access then to the Tawba.
And I think the the whole,
debate
scene is only really meant for people who
are watching on the side. The person in
front never benefits from it. As you said,
all they do is put up a a
greater wall. Yeah. And he's gonna leave that
debate. You've actually done him a great disservice.
And the only person who should be debated
and humiliated is someone who is attacking
Islam.
In that case, you need to stop him.
Right? But regular people,
they they really come to Islam, like you
said, through food more than anything else. And
I remember someone who
we had on the stream at some point.
Who was it
that simply said that somebody,
in Ramadan, it was Iftar,
just passed him a date? Mhmm. That's not
even,
like, a good deed in our religion. That's,
like, just manners.
Alex Cromer. Yeah.
He
that's not even like you don't even think
of that as a good deed. You think
of that as just manners. Right? Mhmm. It
just end up and he was shocked. He
said the guy who came over to me
gave me a date as the end of
Maghrib was about to go off.
That that never happened before. We've never seen
such generosity.
Right? That was an amazing story. Like, that's
how simple it is.
Most humans are very simple creatures looking for
good and bad. That's it. Mhmm. And and
most people, they're eating also in a sit
they're they're eating their meals alone.
Awesome. Most people in the west, I mean,
that's Yeah. So all of a sudden, you
invite them to eat or you're you're handing
somebody something and, you know, they're supposed to
eat with you. This is a huge thing
for them. Yeah. And it begins to just
begins to just take that, like you said,
you know, takes that heart and just begins
to refine it and begins to polish it
and mold it and bring it back to
what it originally was intended.
Allah said prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam said,
No.
First
thing,
Mhmm.
Like, the first thing,
Yeah. Well, Surah Alham.
You know when the how the soup kitchen
started up was that
being having,
being trained in Imam al Hadad's methods and
the importance of dawah,
I was thinking to myself,
New Brunswick is right here.
It's not right that we have no dua.
Like, how are we doing dua?
So then I thought,
we gotta go into New Brunswick and start
giving the dua. And I did PS on
our methodology.
In our method, if someone was to come
to us with a religious ruling, with a
hadith,
that we don't know this person, who he
is. The fact just the fact that I
don't know you is sufficient for me to
say, I'm not obligated to listen to you.
I don't know you. Right? You are to
me.
So why isn't it why wouldn't they say
the same thing? Like, we don't know you.
You're not
Latino like us. You don't speak our language.
You don't live with us. Yeah. You have
no clue how we live. Why in the
world do we listen to you? Who are
you? Who are you? Right?
And how odd would it be a complete
stranger trying to tell you the most important
thing about life? This is literally the most
important thing of your existence. You have to
earn the right. You have to earn the
right to utter a word. So I said,
guys, we need social traction. We need social
credit, something
to earn trust with these folks.
Have we we benefited them in any way,
shape, and form? That's the question we have
to ask. And have you prayed for them
in the night? Night? Yeah. Subhanallah. That's a
that's a major thing. Subhanallah. How can you
give dua to somebody that you haven't even
prayed for? Subhanallah. I remember brought them before
your lord.
One answered the question, said,
dua is 80% dua, 20%
talking. Yeah, Allah.
And and that that really changed everything. Like,
we have so much.
We are a community
of SUVs,
and we know how much an SUV takes
every time at the gas pump. Yeah. The
these are a community who do not even
have cars. If you're to tell them, come
and take free money,
pick up free money,
they can't even come to you. It's not
how they do not have cars.
So we first have to benefit their dunya
first
to the point that one of their kids
should grow up and say everything was always
fine in terms of food when we had
the Muslims.
And the question is, if you were to
take a Muslim community,
highlight, delete
that whole community,
who would say,
shoot, we lost a lot?
Who which people in the society would say,
we lost a lot?
No rush. Most cases. Most cases Patients. No
rush.
Patients. We have patients. Exactly.
Hospital CEOs. Doctors. Hospital CEO. Oh, shoot. What
are we gonna do? Right? We have the
highest per capita doctors.
AT and T would say, wait. We're all
the IT experts and the programmers. That's it.
Right?
That's all that's all that's it. Nobody would
say, oh my gosh. Where are the Muslims?
You don't wanna protect yourself in America. People
say, oh, we may be they could turn
on us at any time. Allah
says,
That which benefits people will always be established
in the earth.
This is the best thing for our political
political survival.
Benefit people. So now we have to ask
ourselves question. How what do we benefit? Now
we have to bring benefit. And we're not
gonna be satisfied. It's not satisfactory.
We haven't achieved anything until the day comes
that one of these
children here
says
we never had to be hungry because the
Muslims were here. Right? Mhmm. Because it is
soup kitchen. And that's why it has to
be 7 days a week eventually. It cannot
one day a week, this is just practice.
Yep. This is gonna be a practice. That's
it.
This is practice. This is to see what
it takes financially,
effort wise, people wise, and then it has
to be 7 days a week. Right?
Christmas, Eid, New Year's, Thanksgiving, it doesn't make
a difference. Right?
People eat every day. Right? I'll give you
a really good example that sometimes we don't
know of. So Yeah. You know, Memphis Islamic
Center,
you know, they have a tradition.
1 year, they do the Thanksgiving drink dinner,
and they invite their neighboring church to come
and host.
So they will come, and the church will
come to their Masjid
in their gym, and they will have a
Thanksgiving dinner hosting key members of the church
and some of the community of
the church. And the next year, they swap
it.
Oh, Hajib. So the Muslims go to their
place. Right. And and and and they have
such a mutual relationship with one another, respectful.
They can use their parking although they don't
need a parking lot. They have a special
big parking lot. But, you know,
back in the day, and they have built
a beautiful relationship with that. And I think
food, as the city said, is one of
the fastest
ways for you to get to somebody's
part. Yeah. Like, you know, just bring them
over for food and, you know, how much
does it cost? Like, let's go to a
halal shop and pick up some burger patties.
It might cost you, like, $150 for 24,
25 patties.
And then do up a small grilled burger
next door neighbor. Say, how many how many
burgers he's gonna eat? Like, if he eats,
like, 2 burgers, that's, like, 8. Like, you
still have the the remaining, you know, 16
left for your family. Right?
You know what's really funny is one time
that, yeah, Omer, you could fire that up.
October 26th, by the way, we're trying we're
having a big any our annual gala for
the soup kitchen, by the way, since we
brought it up. And it'll be streamed. You
can you can watch it on the Safina
Society channel to help us, take us over
the top. So
interestingly, there was a guy
who,
we were giving food to early on. Before
we had the soup kitchen, we would physically
walk around with the food. And we had
these these
trays, little silver tray,
and it had in it, like, biryani and
chicken.
It was good. Like, anyone would eat it.
So we gave it to this to this
guy,
and this dude
was was like, man, I'm not eating this
stuff. Right? I was like, what do you
want? And he said, I want a a
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a
hotdog.
I said,
Like, what kind of
my all of our first reaction was, like,
number 1, that is a dumb trade, number
1. Number 2,
what
what kind of nerve do you have? Someone's
offering you free food, and you rebuff it
like that. And I said, guys, alright, that's
what he
likes. He doesn't know this stuff. Right? So
they said, well, what
my son said, what are we gonna do?
I said, we're gonna get a peanut butter
and jelly sandwich. Right? And that's what we
actually did. Right? It's just an exercise
in when you deal with this stuff, it's
an exercise in a sense in humility. Right?
Or it's an exercise to see what it
who are you dealing with. Yeah. Exactly. You
don't even know who you're dealing with. Aware
of who your audience is. Yeah. Exactly. Is
is is there with you? No. Uthman. No.
Uthman was still a, a young high school
student at that time. Okay. Right? But in
the debate club. But,
The food is food is the key, man.
Yeah. So you you have to adapt yourself,
and it has to come on certain things
have to be on their terms, right, on
the terms of the person you're talking to.
So I wanted to I wanted to to
just I didn't get a chance to to
jump into that point. I had taken a
note of that. You know, that, you know,
the the the and
and exaggeration in the praises of Prophet Sallallahu
alaihi wa sallam. I remember my Sheikh Shakabdida
used to say
that
which human being really thinks that he can
exaggerate in the praise of Prophet Sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam?
Yep.
Like Yeah. Like, if you can truly believe
that you're gonna be able to praise him
in his totality
and go beyond what he's worthy of that
if you really think that, then we need
to have a discussion.
Well, also yeah. How about how about this
angle?
In order to exaggerate something, you have to,
at at first, attain its Haqq.
Right? 100%. You have to attain the right
level.
The service that the prophet has done for
you, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam,
by the will of Allah. There is the
mussabib and there's the asbaab. Right? He's the
sabaab
of your eternal paradise if you attain it.
Firstly, if you attain it. Yeah. Right?
He's the sabaab for that.
Therefore, to equal
the reward
that the the service that he gave you,
you owe an eternity of gratitude. Right?
That's fair. Right? If if what I gave
you is it an eternal
forever until the
the until death, you get free coffee.
Then you should thank me until death. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. I shouldn't stop thanking you because
my my coffee still keeps coming to you.
Right? So, likewise, the prophet salam is his
service. He is the Sabab
through which you have an eternal paradise.
Yeah. And save from an eternal *. You
have two things because you didn't go from
neutral to paradise. You went from
* to paradise. So you owe him 2
shukrs.
No. You you can never reach even gratitude,
let alone praise. Yeah.
And is
isn't there like a hadith? I don't remember
exactly, but
No. Or something like that. Somehow. There was
some studies. I don't know I don't know
the and stuff, but I remember reading it
somewhere like that. Yeah. Right? My my
Ladies and gentlemen, we have to stop here.
I know there were some questions. I tried
to answer a lot of them.
Otherwise,
we have 2 beautiful guests who will be
spending the weekend with us, and we have
an amazing weekend. And if you're in New
York, Pennsylvania,
Delaware,
come up here to New Jersey.
Next, we have Jummah. We have the lunch
after Jummah with all of us,
which restaurant is gonna take us. Who knows?
Thirdly,
we have our
on Friday at 7:30 PM at NBIC. I
mean, we pray. We wait a little bit.
We have the mawlid. Sheikh Ahmed Salim will
be there. Sheikh Hasidullah will be there.
Sheikh Amin Mohammed will be there.
Sheikh Omar Popal will be there.
Sheikh Ahmed Salim is bringing a munshid with
him.
Right? Sure. We have the famous Khari Zahid,
k, who's very famous in Pakistan.
Alright. And he's very famous here too as
one of the best natis in the world.
He is the best natis in the world.
Right?
He is one of isn't that true? He
is the one of the best You just
you just made up a word, Shay. Yeah.
You made up a word, not right. He's
the best nazi in the world. He is.
He is very naughty. That's very naughty. You
just make up words like nazi.
I'm telling you, there's always is one thing.
Right?
Is at the same level as always. He's
just not on the Internet. Right?
2nd thirdly,
next day, you barely wake
up. You have breakfast.
He goes straight to.
K? 1 hour drive for us.
That's it. Go straight to. From 1 o'clock
until when, brothers? Is the? It said it
said 7, but It's 7 o'clock, but for
us, it's like 12. Right?
10 or something. Right? So we're gonna go
all the way till then. The whole jama'
takes a big everyone's gonna be driving to
Maqasid.
The pens the the Virginians are coming.
The Pennsylvanians,
the Jerseyans,
some New Yorkers,
some from Atlanta are coming.
All coming. Some from Canada are coming, but
I might told Saddam. A few a few
of my friends are gonna drive down too.
Yeah. I wanted to tell Saddam travel. You
should make a package. Right?
Because there's so many.
Then whoever wants to go after that,
Sunday is the Staten Island one.
K.
Yes.
Right?
We'll have that. We're gonna put ours on
Mixler.
So the Safina Sadie Mixler channel so you
can listen in on the audio.
Is probably streamed.
Alright. So it's gonna be a wonderful weekend.
We're gonna stop here.
Everybody.
Alright. Omar, assalamu alaikum. Assalamu alaikum, masha'ay. I'm
gonna head out, inshallah. Barak Allahu alaikum. Thank
you so much for hosting me.
Amaikum.
Oh, by the way, the lunch is, we're
gonna make it at 3 o'clock. So I
probably won't meet meet the
we won't be able to
oh, okay. Text me.