Shadee Elmasry – The DANGEROUS Misconceptions DIVIDING the Ummah

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The speakers discuss the merits of the Prophet's teachings and the importance of acknowledging and respecting their differences. They stress the need for qualification for disagreements and the importance of finding a balance between the two views. The speakers also touch on the topic of disagreement and the importance of learning one's deen and religious opinions to defend their views. They emphasize the need to be mindful of their views and not be afraid to follow others'. The importance of respecting leadership, cooperation, and collaboration in face-to-face interactions is emphasized.

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			Is It Haram To Object To Something Traced
		
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			To The Prophet?
		
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			Not every difference is a disagreement, right?
		
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			Some differences are differences of variety.
		
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			Meaning it's all traceable to the Prophet ﷺ.
		
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			And in that case, we should all agree
		
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			that it is haram to object, right?
		
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			Because you'd be objecting to something traced to
		
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			the Prophet ﷺ.
		
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			So for instance, مَالِكِ يَوْمِ الدِّينِ مَالِكِ يَوْمِ
		
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			الدِّينِ Right?
		
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			أَنفُسِكُمْ وَأَنفَسِكُمْ Right?
		
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			The qiraat of the Qur'an.
		
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			Or the wordings of the adhan and iqamah.
		
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			You know, whether you do it the qiraat
		
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			or not, the repetition or not, you know,
		
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			between the hanaf.
		
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			These are actually variety.
		
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			These were both, these both have a degree
		
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			of traceability to the Prophet ﷺ.
		
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			They're not right and wrong, they're right and
		
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			right.
		
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			The most we discuss in this category of
		
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			variety, اختلاف تنوع, is what's the better thing
		
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			to do in this context, but we're not
		
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			allowed to say it's a wrong thing to
		
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			do, right?
		
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			You know, you can even think of like
		
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			Islamic work.
		
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			Like, should we be in the knowledge domain,
		
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			the education domain, or an inspiration domain?
		
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			Should we be doing more activism or should
		
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			we be doing sort of more political advocacy,
		
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			mobilization, printing of masahif, whatever social work, whatever
		
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			it's going to be.
		
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			This is variety.
		
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			No one can say those are not from
		
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			Islam.
		
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			We're just sort of tweaking.
		
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			We can't undermine any of that because you'd
		
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			be undermining something that is axiomatically Islamic, categorically
		
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			Islamic.
		
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			Then there's disagreements.
		
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			Disagreements is when there's rights and wrongs.
		
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			حلالات الحرام, حق و بطل, right?
		
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			When these disagreements exist, they can't all be
		
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			right at the same time.
		
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			There's times when we're going to excuse them
		
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			and times when we're not.
		
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			So, when we're not going to excuse them,
		
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			it doesn't mean we're necessarily to be hostile
		
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			with someone that has them, but we're just
		
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			not willing to entertain the conversation that this
		
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			could be right.
		
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			It's categorically wrong.
		
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			And so think of just easy examples, things
		
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			that violate Ijma'ah, right?
		
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			Allah is One, the Qur'an is His
		
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			book, Muhammad is His final prophet, sallallahu alayhi
		
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			wa sallam, those are his four hajj, hijab
		
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			is mandatory.
		
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			We're not open to sort of like your
		
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			acrobatics to tell me why the whole ummah
		
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			was sort of like misfired on that one,
		
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			right?
		
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			It's not up for discussion.
		
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			It doesn't mean I have to sort of
		
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			like be read in the face about it
		
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			every time I meet someone or hear.
		
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			No, that's like a protocol issue for later.
		
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			But let me get to where the actual
		
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			issue is, the actual sort of practical benefit
		
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			for a lot of us listening to this
		
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			podcast or the likes or in Islamic work
		
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			or in Islam Muslim spaces deal with, which
		
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			is excusable differences.
		
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			How do we know?
		
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			Because sometimes we have misplaced concreteness.
		
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			We think it's concretely unexcusable, illegitimate or the
		
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			likes, right?
		
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			How do we know when something is unexcusable?
		
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			The easiest way for time purposes and is
		
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			just matters of agreement when the scholars have
		
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			unanimously agreed on something or a number of
		
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			things.
		
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			Because the Prophet ﷺ said, and the hadith
		
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			has some substantiation to its chain that my
		
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			ummah will not agree upon, falsehood.
		
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			And he also said, this is a more
		
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			authentic chain, this is mutawatir, like massly transmitted,
		
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			like there will always be a group of
		
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			my ummah visibly on the truth, apparent, al
		
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			-haqq al-bahireen.
		
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			That means if the ummah was wrong, someone
		
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			would have stepped up and said, excuse me
		
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			guys, right?
		
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			There will always be dissent, meaning disagreement to
		
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			make sure the truth is never absent from
		
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			the ummah for a moment.
		
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			And so, typically excusable, we're talking about scholarly
		
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			views.
		
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			There is scholarly precedent for them.
		
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			They don't come out of nowhere in unprecedented
		
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			way.
		
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			So scholars again disagree now.
		
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			They have conflicting views.
		
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			Let's say they have a set number of
		
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			views, and these scholars don't condemn each other,
		
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			right?
		
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			So what does that mean?
		
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			When they don't condemn each other, they still
		
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			agree to pray behind each other or whatever.
		
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			We're saying these views are valid.
		
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			Before we get to these three points right
		
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			now, the view is valid.
		
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			I'm not saying it's correct.
		
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			I'm saying it is irrational, and this is
		
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			the view of the majority, al-mukhatti, anar,
		
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			al-musawwiba, that the mujtahid, the scholars that
		
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			exert themselves to arrive at a view, those
		
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			views are valid.
		
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			If certain boxes are checked, let's leave that
		
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			out of the conversation for now.
		
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			But valid means we don't know until the
		
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			day of judgment which one was correct.
		
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			All we know is that we're all exerting
		
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			our capacity, and if we wind up being
		
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			correct, we get two rewards, and if we're
		
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			incorrect, we get one reward.
		
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			That's it.
		
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			That's what the hadith says, right?
		
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			حَكَمَ الْحَاكَمُ فَاجْتَهَدَ فَأَصَبْ When a person passes
		
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			their judgment, of course, he needs to be
		
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			qualified to pass judgments to begin with, he
		
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			passes your judgment, and you turn out to
		
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			be correct, you get two rewards, your effort,
		
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			your sort of your trophy.
		
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			But the trophy is Allah.
		
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			It's not something you sort of like, you
		
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			know, flex on people and smash over people's
		
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			heads, right?
		
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			It's with Allah.
		
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			And then if you're wrong, you get one
		
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			reward meaning for effort.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			So, now as a layman, what do I
		
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			do with this?
		
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			I'm gonna say, okay, the scholars had a
		
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			set number of views, and they didn't condemn
		
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			each other for these views.
		
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			This means, they agree on the validity, not
		
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			correctness, validity of these views, right?
		
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			So, let's use the hijab example.
		
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			They said, does she cover the face or
		
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			not cover the face?
		
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			It's a whole long discussion, right?
		
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			They're both valid, to sort of write one
		
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			off as liberal and one as extreme, and
		
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			there's always fingers pointing to the other side,
		
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			is dhulm.
		
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			It is unjustified.
		
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			They all actually agree that you're the one
		
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			out of line, in that case.
		
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			They're disagreeing while agreeing that you're uncalled for,
		
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			unwarranted.
		
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			The second thing is, when they don't condemn
		
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			each other, that means they agree it's speculative.
		
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			It's each study, right?
		
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			Like when someone pulls out something and says
		
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			like, zakah cannot be spent on da'wah.
		
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			For instance, I'm sorry, it's a little controversial.
		
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			I don't mean to be forceful.
		
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			I'm just rushing.
		
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			But when someone...
		
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			But hold on.
		
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			If it were crystal clear, would they have
		
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			disagreed on this?
		
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			When Abu Hanifa rahimahullah said, it could be
		
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			used on Quranic instruction, that's a form of
		
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			jihad.
		
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			Or when Imam Ahmed rahimahullah said, it could
		
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			be spent on hajj and umrah, because the
		
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			Prophet ﷺ told Aisha, yes, women have to
		
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			perform jihad, but jihad that is void of
		
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			combat, hajj and umrah.
		
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			If it were clear, did they get this
		
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			out of their pocket?
		
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			No, they didn't.
		
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			Would they have disrespected the sharia in that
		
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			way?
		
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			That is the implication of saying about something
		
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			they differed over as crystal crystal clear.
		
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			That's the problem.
		
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			The implication is you're saying that they're all
		
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			like ignorant, or they're all sellouts.
		
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			Right?
		
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			No, they let each other disagree, which meant
		
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			they understood that there is some interpretive bandwidth
		
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			there.
		
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			I remember I went to Atim al-Hajj
		
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			once.
		
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			We were praying taraweeh all Ramadan together in
		
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			a Hanafi masjid.
		
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			And in the Hanafi masjid, they pray their
		
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			witr in a particular format.
		
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			Their witr involves praying, for those that don't
		
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			know, it looks like maghrib, right?
		
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			It pray tashahud in the middle and then
		
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			tashahud in the end, in the second and
		
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			third rak'ah.
		
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			So I said, Sheikh, the hadith is clear.
		
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			That's why I said so.
		
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			Sheikh, the hadith is clear that your witr
		
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			should not resemble your maghrib.
		
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			So they smiled at me.
		
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			You know that grandpa, you're such a fool.
		
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			He smiled at me and says, we don't
		
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			recite, they're going to tell you we don't
		
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			recite out loud in the third rak'ah
		
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			of maghrib.
		
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			It's a pile up.
		
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			And so I smiled and said, why do
		
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			they always have an answer?
		
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			He said, because that's the nature of these
		
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			subjects.
		
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			There's always an answer.
		
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			Your ignorance of the answer doesn't mean that
		
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			there's no answer.
		
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			Anyway, so the third part is the truth
		
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			must be among those views.
		
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			Meaning there's no room when they differ on
		
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			a set number of views for there to
		
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			be a third one.
		
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			And we covered that in the previous slide,
		
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			the issue of unprecedented.
		
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			No one can come now and say, hijab
		
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			means modesty.
		
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			It doesn't actually refer to a garb or
		
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			boundaries for the garb.
		
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			No, I'm sorry.
		
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			Like the ummah was not in the dark
		
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			between these two views, and they're all wrong
		
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			until God's gift to the world, you showed
		
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			up.
		
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			This is just like astronomically, like colossal levels
		
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			of conceit to bring out an unprecedented view.
		
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			So what do we do?
		
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			What do we do in light of this?
		
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			Just remember the four rules.
		
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			The layman is not entitled to a personal
		
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			opinion.
		
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			Everyone needs to understand this.
		
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			You know, since I'm going to be pandering
		
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			to the Maliki Sirik, Ibn Abdul Barra, Rahim
		
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			Allah, the great Maliki scholar.
		
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			He reports Ijma'a, scholarly agreement.
		
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			أن المقلد ليس بعالم وأن العلم معرفة الحق
		
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			بدليله That the muqallid, the layman, you know,
		
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			muqallid, layman, it comes from qilada.
		
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			Qilada means like a chain around your neck.
		
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			It means a collar.
		
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			Meaning you need to understand that you're just
		
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			being dragged along.
		
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			And that's why qilid, and this is not
		
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			controversial, taqlid is haram except for darura.
		
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			The only reason you would imitate someone in
		
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			your deen is because dhuhr time is going
		
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			to end and I'm not going to be
		
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			a scholar or a mujtahid by the time
		
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			asr time comes.
		
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			So I have no choice.
		
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			But we should all sort of own our
		
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			own deen and religious opinions.
		
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			So he's saying, but recognize that, recognize, read
		
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			the rule.
		
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			Where are you?
		
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			Who am I?
		
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			You are not a alim.
		
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			And that ilm is knowing the truth and
		
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			the evidences for it, right?
		
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			What does he mean you're not a alim?
		
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			He's not trying to insult you and say
		
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			you're like an ignorant fool.
		
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			He's trying to tell you that it's haram
		
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			for you to have a view.
		
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			You don't have a view.
		
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			You're following someone else's view.
		
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			So if you don't have a view, you
		
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			can't be defending a view or promoting a
		
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			view.
		
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			You don't have one.
		
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			You don't have one.
		
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			That's number one.
		
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			The second bullet, the scholar is not, now
		
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			the scholar, check this out.
		
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			The scholar is not entitled to impose their
		
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			view on others.
		
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			Think about that.
		
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			Why did like Abu Yusuf Al-Qadi and
		
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			Muhammad Al-Hassan Al-Shaybani or Ibn Al
		
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			-Qasim or others, anyone, why did the greatest
		
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			students of the founders of the four schools
		
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			sometimes disagree with their teacher?
		
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			Because they were forced to.
		
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			Why were they forced to?
		
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			Because they understood that it is haram for
		
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			me, Allah will hold me accountable to my
		
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			jihad.
		
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			It's haram for me to follow someone more
		
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			knowledgeable than me, more pious than me, when
		
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			on a particular issue, my jihad delivered me
		
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			elsewhere.
		
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			And that's why they also don't impose it
		
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			on others.
		
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			That's why they didn't impose it on their
		
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			students or we shouldn't impose it on the
		
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			peers in scholarship.
		
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			I'm punishable for departing from my jihad.
		
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			I'm rewarded for my jihad.
		
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			And so how can you bully me into
		
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			doing something that is contrary to what Allah's
		
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			rewarding me for and Allah's punish me if
		
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			I ignore.
		
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			That's the idea you want to think about
		
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			here.
		
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			As a scholar, you can't even do it,
		
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			let alone a layman.
		
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			The third thing is leadership.
		
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			Leaders are entitled to compliance within a spectrum
		
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			of valid views, right?
		
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			And that's like a rule, like respecting an
		
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			imam's leadership in the masjid or a husband's
		
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			leadership in the home or the management's leadership
		
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			in any sort of organization or collective, the
		
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			state's leadership to pick a moon-sighting view,
		
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			right?
		
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			Whatever it's going to be.
		
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			Leaders are entitled to pick a view because
		
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			you can't get stuck in decision paralysis, right?
		
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			You don't have to believe in the view.
		
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			You just have to take their right to
		
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			choose one, right?
		
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			No gaslighting, no pressuring, nothing.
		
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			The last thing, and this is very important,
		
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			which is that cooperation.
		
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			Someone shared with me a clip recently speaking
		
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			about the importance of cordiality and cooperation, which
		
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			I really appreciate it.
		
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			Cooperation, which some will call unity, that's why
		
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			I worded it like that, follows a pros
		
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			-cons calculus.
		
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			It has nothing to do with everything I
		
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			just explained.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			It has nothing to do with valid versus
		
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			invalid views.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			So, like, cooperating in obedience, تعوان على البر
		
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			والتقوى, you know, like, if someone believes there's
		
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			a prophet after Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم,
		
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			for sure that's an invalid view.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			If you believe that God is part of
		
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			a triune godhead, right?
		
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			Eternity.
		
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			Invalid view, fine.
		
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			Inexcusable, fine.
		
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			But I can still collaborate with you.
		
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			So, what about people that have so much
		
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			more in common, right?
		
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			Even, like, the scholars agree, generally, if you
		
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			look at how they operate, they agree that
		
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			shunning a Muslim is only allowed when there
		
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			is a clear pro there, like a clear
		
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			benefit, tough love or sort of like protecting
		
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			the ummah.
		
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			So, that's a very dynamic rule that they
		
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			agree on.
		
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			Like, when is it actually in the best
		
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			interest of community or ummah to not interact
		
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			with someone?
		
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			Mm-hmm.
		
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			And we should let those in the kitchen
		
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			make those decisions, by the way.
		
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			Yeah.