Shadee Elmasry – NBF 161 Professor Fired for Paintings of the Prophet

Shadee Elmasry
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The American television show covers various aspects of the movement, including a photo of Karoun clawing a picture of Jesus, a recitation of a word, and a photo of Jesus himself. The discussion touches on various speakers and their roles in various fields, including a woman named Karoun who clawed a picture of Jesus, a man named Moher, and a man named Moher. The movement has faced issues with lack of diversity and misunderstandings in politics, including the negative comments of a woman in Hamline, and the use of language and language expression in protecting academic freedom. The speakers also discuss religion, personal behavior, privacy concerns, and the use of language in protecting one's opinion.
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Law early he was gonna be human Well welcome everybody to the

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Safina society nothing but facts live stream where we got Ryan at

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the helm

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and we got a couple segments today our first segment

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a draw with the group right did I ever send you the picture message

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that's

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just the picture

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just the picture I'm gonna email you the picture right now and then

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you can

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when we make the DUA you could put the picture up

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let's you know write that picture because just the Merab is enough

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Jolla,

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beautiful beautiful Mahara up here

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I still

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have a great attachment to muscle fat

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because of that dua on Wednesday, that was something became very

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special to me. And then

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our building became called daughter.

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Like without any, you know, connection from myself, nothing

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like not like orchestrated or anything.

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So, we have inshallah many, many photo heads coming up. Let's begin

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segment number one of our program today is da

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Yeoman RB, then authority will also draw artifacts.

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This draw is so important. If you've been an attendee of,

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of but facts you know, what we're doing here, and that is we are in

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the Lehi, Tyler practicing the Hadith that's narrated from Sedna

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jabot. And Abdullah in this hadith, saying the job would have

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been Abdullah

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noted that the Messenger of Allah

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at the end of the battle of the hunt, duck, when the Muslims had

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reached their limit, there was no food. There was no security

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anymore. They were really at their last amounts of patients left in

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them, their Sahaba were just a loss. And the Prophet made dua a

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Monday, get an answer Tuesday made a long

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Wednesday, he got his answer, and sent a jab but to describe it as

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being a Salatin between Doha and us and that area

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that he made dry in that tent, we're going to put picture up of

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that little masala that they made out of that later on. So we take

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advantage of that and we recite

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a word here called his oneness. What's the difference between NASA

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and

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NASA is victory after struggle and fighting

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for

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his victory without any of that

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victory without struggle or fighting. And so jello we're gonna

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recite this and then we stop we make dua for about 345 minutes

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who have at home caribou but she didn't want me Nene. Yeah, your

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lady Latina and Okuno sort of like him. I've got a seven or eight

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don't know about the new either Cooley Halle or Amara hit me in

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shallow pause here for to offer a couple minutes

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Allahu ala Sayidina Muhammad wa ala earlier Savio Salam Subhan

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Allah be Cara bless that Yama Yossi foon wa salam ala l

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Mursaleen. Al Hamdulillah. Here a Billa LME in

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A lot of scholars have undersold, Jamaah are here in America and we

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need to share them with you. So we're going to start doing that

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slowly. Secondly,

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And it was locals. One was from another state completely. And one

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was a local, masha Allah, great people.

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Today we're going to talk about this is segment number two.

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A lecture

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miskeen Adjunct Professor shows a painting of the Prophet Mohammed

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she lost her job. Hamline University you never even heard of

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the joint. Okay, you've never even heard of this place.

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She's a poor old girl. She's not old. I'm saying she's just a poor

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Adjunct Professor Erica Lopez predator, an adjunct professor at

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Hamline University, I've done these jobs. I was one of these

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adjuncts before

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you get the job, they look at your resume, you know how to you stand

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on two feet, you know how to read. They give you the job.

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You got eyes you got a degree of some sort. They just throw you the

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interest. They don't even give you the syllabus. This is your class

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go to room see 35 in Baker's Hall, teach these kids you go in you

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teach you give the exams you submit the grades on a computer,

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you meet with the chair of the department once

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a semester.

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It's this is a very bottom have to work in a high school is more

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serious than to be an adjunct professor, trust me. Nobody cares.

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The students don't care. The head of the department is just happy to

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fill in this class. Right?

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Whether you come you leave no one cares. That's not the point. The

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point here though, is that this teacher, this is not a place to

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have an agenda number one.

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Students aren't even paying attention.

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This teacher it has come across us is just that she's showing

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pictures of ancient Persia. Ancient meaning like 1000 years

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ago, maybe 800 years ago, not ancient ancient.

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One of these pictures was the prophet Mohammed, a depiction of

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the Prophet in her global art class, which she's showing as a

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representation of what they were painting in Persia at the time

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now. For us is haram. Right. But from from the perspective of

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desecration, is she trying to defame Is she trying to insult Is

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she trying to offend? No, she's not. She's literally doing a

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survey class here. Right? It's a survey class. And this picture.

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When you take these classes, the picture shows up for like five

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minutes on an overhead or maybe they have a smartboard and that's

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it. Move on to the next subject

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to survey

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this is a secular university right Hamline University. This is not

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Hamline Sharia University. This is just Hamline University.

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You're you sign

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Up to go to a secular university. So she's treating this with

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respect. Okay? It's not according to our shitty It's haram to do

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this in our Sharia. But what happens is that apparently some

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Muslim students which we're going to read here,

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they got the woke bug and they went all woke on this lady using

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Islam as this is like

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a minority, we're a minority, we're being offended. Okay. Now

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did anyone raise their hand and say, Hey, I'm offended that or

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what is I'm offended?

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This is haram. Right? It's not like offensive in the sense of

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like you, you showed a picture of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa

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salam, like the Charlie Hebdo deformed in a way that's like

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ugly. That way you could say offensive. How is those Persian

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pictures are trying to elevate the profit. Of course, it's not on

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what they're doing. But they're not. They're definitely trying to

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elevate the messenger peace be upon them in their painting.

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They're definitely not trying to offend you.

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So to say that it's offensive is a little bit of a stretch. Erica

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Lopez, an adjunct professor at Hamline University, we're reading

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here from the New York Times

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said she knew many Muslims have deeply religious, deeply held

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religious beliefs that prohibit depictions of the Prophet. So she

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took many precautions before showing this one painting. In the

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syllabus, she warned the images of holy figures, such as Prophet

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Muhammad and Buddha would be shown in the course

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drawn by people seeking to honor those people.

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She disclosed it in advance.

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You took the course?

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I want to take a culinary course. Hey, Ahmad is that you? Listen to

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this. You hear what we're talking about? Okay.

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You take a culinary course, right? The culinary Course tells you

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you're going to be cooking pork. You get to the culinary course.

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And they teach you pork and they teach you how to cook pork. Do you

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then come in and claim this is an Islamophobic course.

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And they're trying to insult us by feeding us pork. You have no

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claim, right?

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That's what I'm saying. Not everything that just because like

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we have this minority status, we're gonna jump on it and go work

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on these people. So she warned on, she warned them.

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She said ask students contact me with any concerns. Now let's say

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there's 10 Muslims in the course.

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Hey, I know that you're not trying to disrespect us, but we just have

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to say this is like something forbidden in our course. In our

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religion, we're just gonna sit out that day.

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That's it maximum, right.

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Remember, it's a secular school. So it's not like she's not bound

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by halal and haram. She's bound according to secular law, common

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sensical law, not to offend the other people don't offend your

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students, right. There's people to tuition paying students, right.

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Okay.

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Nobody responded. Nobody said anything. We need to get you a

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back checks. If you you want you might sit here you want to sit

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there. You're more comfortable. That way I don't have to keep

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craning my neck.

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Yeah.

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Just get it back Jack or get a *

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there's a back Jack. There's a * there's everything. Good.

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Ahmad is here from Texas. Visiting. Ahmad is one of these

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genius mathematicians. There's like one grade and in any of these

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guys that crop up, the IQ level was very high. I don't know what

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was going on the baby formula of that generation, like Othman

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Kadeem, you yawn. That whole course you're like, what when

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you're older than those guys, us, okay. Anyway, nobody raised their

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hand. Nobody emailed her. Now in class. She took another precaution

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she prepped the students saying in a few minutes, we will display it.

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I can't believe she did this. We will display what may be offensive

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to some students. So anyone may leave and you will not lose

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credit. Trigger warning. I can't believe she did it. She did it in

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the in the syllabus. She does it the day of the class. And no one

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will lose credit. As they listen now I'm not up for this is against

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my religion. I'm not partaking in this. She's basically opening the

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door for you. And she's saying you will not lose credit in the class.

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I wish I could, you know, this type of person

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is somebody who is not trying to offend you. She's not showing

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Charlie Hebdo pictures. She's just showing these paintings right

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which Muslims made now she doesn't care if you're Sunni or Shiite.

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There she is probably who made these paintings. But she's like

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okay, these

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People try it on. It's an anthropologist like a global

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course she doesn't care about your theology. Her she is bound by

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respect. All right. Then Miss Dr. Lopez showed the image. And that

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began to her losing her teaching gig. Okay?

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Officials at Hamline, a small private university in St. Paul

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Minneapolis.

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How many students 1800 students in the whole university? How's this

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in university? It's a homeschool, right? High School.

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High schools all have more people than this, right?

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And what we're gonna about to see is the administration completely

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buckling to the woke agenda. Not everything that says Islamophobia

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is has to do with Islam, I'm sorry. It has nothing to do with

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Islam, what they're about to do here. This is woke ism, using

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Islam as a token.

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sheath, they tried to douse what they feared would become a runaway

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fire. Instead, they ended up with what they had tried to avoid.

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That's exactly what happens when you try to run away from a

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controversy you create it. But if you face it head on and say, Hey,

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no, we were being totally respectful. You don't like this

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painting? Go talk to your person, Muslims who made it? They're the

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ones who made it. Right? Go talk to your own people fix your own

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house first. We're being respectful. We're not showing you

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what a Catherine made about a Muslim. We're showing you what a

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Muslim made about a Muslim, right?

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So they tried to run away and that's the thing when they woke

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come when the woke mob comes you cannot bend. Not you cannot see

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one centimeter. If you see it one centimeter you're done with and

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the world that I live in, I want to even not even be in the same

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zip code as them.

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Like I want. I've been telling them. I'm not

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like,

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I'm not your friend. From a long time ago. I've been pushing them

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back. Right? From a long time from 2012. When I first started, I knew

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this trend was coming because I saw it in California. I saw all

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these lives. There wasn't such a word called woke anyway, it was

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just like, like liberal types, progressive liberal surrounding,

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out in California surrounding the dudes out in California, right?

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And I'm like, No, this is no good. You're inviting them. But they're

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not coming and submitting to Islam as it is they're coming with their

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own expectations. And I'm like, God, this is dangerous. Because

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once they're in your circle, and you have to try to please them.

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You can't you have to keep bending the rules. So the best thing is

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keep them at bay in the first place. Because they're entitled

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group. They're going to come with their own demands. So I was like

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to keep them at bay. Every. It used to be a lot more, but then it

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became just once a month. Even law was like less than that. Throw

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grenade over there. Right, something that, you know, they're

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going to despise you for, and they will come near you. Right. And

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that's how I think it's we it's a protection.

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Next,

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they ended up with what they tried to avoid, which pitted advocates

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of academic liberty and free speech against Muslims who believe

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showing the image of the Prophet Muhammad is always sacrilegious.

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No, that's not the controversy. I'm sorry to tell you. That is not

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the controversy. I believe it's sacrilegious. All of us believe

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it's haram. But we also know the rules of secular universities.

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And we're not going to try to impinge that upon them. When

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they're being respectful. Right?

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You're being respectful. You're not showing some insulting image?

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Yes, you're showing a haram image. Wait a second. aren't half your

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liberal arts courses also haram to us? Right? Don't you have atheism

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being spoken in some of these courses?

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So where do you draw the line? We're going to come on this

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painting this Persian image and that's what offends us. What about

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all the atheism taught in the courses? Right? What about all the

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secular ethics being taught in all the other courses?

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So when you're dealing with a secular university, and you're

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signing up to a secular university, you have expectations?

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Or if you don't like it, which I don't, don't sign up, don't go to

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the school, take the science classes, take the tech classes.

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Don't take the liberal arts classes.

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Okay, so this is a wrong framing. It's not about that. It's about

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this is in my view, as I did read the blurb that one of the students

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put out.

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This is using Islam

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as a woke

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token,

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after Dr. Lopez Prater showed the image, a senior in the class

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complained to the administration we'd say she told you in the

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syllabus, she

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said it in class, you're a hypocrite. Why didn't you get up?

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Why didn't you contact her?

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Because I bear guarantee you won't even you didn't read the syllabus.

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Right? And you probably didn't need your senior taken an art

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class. What does that mean? That means I just got some credits to

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finish. Right? This is this is a one on one art class like a survey

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class, who takes the survey class as a senior.

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Right? Yeah, that's all it is.

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Okay. Other Muslim students not in the course, supported the

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students? Hey, a party, let's burn someone's life down and take him

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down. Okay, so you out there in Hamlin University, the Tacoma has

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reached such a level

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Colosse, right, that you cannot even bear the Messenger of Allah

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sigh send them. It's not like we're bearing it. We're accepting

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it. Right. But hulless they reached a level. This is an attack

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on our faith. This is nonsense. colorless. Yes. So all the atheism

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being spouted is not an attack on your face, faith, all the other

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stuff that actually has an impact on people.

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In fact, some of these Persian paintings

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I think we've all seen some of them. Sometimes they put a flame.

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Sometimes, it's the Prophet sometimes you don't even know what

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it is, right? Someone may look at that and say, Wow, this is

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beautiful, actually beautiful religion. They produce beautiful

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stuff. I'd never would imagine anyone's going to look at these

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Persian paintings and say, What a terrible religion. Right? Horrible

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religion. No one's gonna say that these paintings are actually

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really nice.

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Right? Leave aside the part that's haram.

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Obviously, that's never going to be nice to us whenever he

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described it that way. But overall, there's, it's an painting

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that elevates your civilization aside the part that's forbidden,

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obviously.

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So they all demanded that officials take action. Okay, this

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class is an attack on your religion. If it's an attack on

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your religion, why did she put it in the syllabus? Why did she tell

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you if you want to leave? So, officials now

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they come in, they go over the department chair who approved all

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this and helped her walk it through so we don't offend these

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Muslim students. Right? I want you guys. You know, these ratty kids

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go live in Paris for half a day. They could care less about you and

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your religion. They will show you the Charlie Hebdo photos in public

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school. Forget University, right. And they will jam it down your

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throats here you have some event Jellicle some Christian divino.

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Minneapolis is a big Christian state tiptoeing. By the way, if

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you're not comfortable, you can sit there no problem. They're

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tiptoeing around you. And you still do this. Right? You are

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clueless. Okay.

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I just can't I just don't know where it's stopping. Where's it

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going to stop? The idea of students getting professors fired

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over something that they did that was that was by the rules of the

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administration forget this issue of religion right now. They follow

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the rules of the administration. There. We talked about that

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chemistry professor from I think it was NYU or Columbia. That guy

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has been given the same course the same quizzes, the same exams for

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30 years. And because you got some Week, a week generation, maybe in

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COVID, they go out and study biology well enough.

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They get into his course and they flunk out, which means to never

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going to become doctors. They petitioned and they got him fired,

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that the course is too hard. He's acquitted, guys, I've been given

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the same exact course for 30 years. Right? They got him fired.

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So where are we stopping here? Throw perspective. Go ahead. So I

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remember when I was in community college, and basically I forget if

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I wasn't, I think I was like, just became a Muslim. And I was taking

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world religions class. And the teacher got to the Islamic the

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Islam section, where now we're online because of COVID. We had

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taken like Taoism, we're taking Buddhism, we took Hinduism,

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all in person, but Islam, Judaism and Christianity we took online,

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and basically he gave us a quiz on Islam. And one of the questions on

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the quiz was which one?

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Which one is allowed in Islam, and it was like, eating pork, like

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cursing your parents believing into Gods or beating your wife, or

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email the guy? That's a guy trying to insult I know, I emailed me, I

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emailed him, you know, and he was like, I forget having to download

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watch this out of my mind. I don't even remember what happened with

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it. But then it makes me think of this because I

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If these kids didn't do that, it's also wrong if they didn't feel

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some type of way about it. Yeah. So it's like, it's a little

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extreme if they do get the person fired, but it's also problematic

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if they don't do anything to. It's tough. Exactly. They, she's

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telling you, this is what we're showing. This is according to the

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rules of this university. Okay? And she's saying, if you want to

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take my class, this is what's going to happen. If you have

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issues with it. Come talk to me. What does that mean? That means

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she might negotiate. She might, you might get her to decrease

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this, this painting. And so something else, you might get her,

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she may stick to her guns.

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At least you said something, then you walk out of the class. Yeah.

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That guy is a doofus. He's trying to find my emails with them. That

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guy, you know, we're not supposed to espouse violence, but if

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someone was to go, and so since you're okay, you know, trying to

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find us we're going to, we'll beat you to write since this is what

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you're all about. Right? We'll meet you and see what happens,

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right? Because the idea of a reaction is good. I like the

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reaction and a strong reaction. But it has to be in the right

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place. You don't pick on somebody, to me, this is a small fry. The

00:31:14 --> 00:31:20

whole university is a small fry. Right? 1800 students, what 200

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People run in the school in the middle of nowhere, they don't even

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get sunlight out there, right? middle of nowhere, Minneapolis.

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And that's what you're going to. That's not where the energy should

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go. There is a lot worse happening in the world that deserves a lot

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more. I sympathize with these kids, though. Because like, the

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it's such a fine line between being too sharp as a religion and

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everything that people are just like, Oh, these Muslims, they're

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too far off. Yeah, I can never accept this. And also being too

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loose, where we're not even respecting our own tradition.

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Exactly. So like, it's tough this day, they there's a couple of

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things. They didn't follow the protocol that they were given.

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Yeah, then you went like a snake and a weasel and a rat around the

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back and made a media firestorm.

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Whereas we say in our religion, enter doors from their enter homes

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from their doors, be straight, look me in the eye and tell me

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what's going on. Right? That's our religion, not to become a weasel

00:32:18 --> 00:32:24

like this. So it's the Weasley Enos that bothers me. And it's the

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upfront pneus of the professor that I respect. Okay. And it's on

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top of that,

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on this on the sense that we have to be religion that steps up, you

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have to be smart to you do this. Now you have inspired a whole set

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of her colleagues and peers in the art fields, to now actually show

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worse things just to spite these kids. We are also aren't we

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commanded do not curse foreign gods idols so that they don't

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curse Allah. So are we commanded in the shittier in the Quran, to

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be mindful of reactions, that I may take a hesitant approach to a

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blasphemy

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because in my estimation,

00:33:09 --> 00:33:13

poking that bear is actually going to cause something worse. This, in

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my opinion is not a fight that had should have happened in this way

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could have happened another way.

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But I guarantee what it's going to result in is every art professor

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who has any atheistic view, or what Christian view is going to

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now start showing Charlie Hebdo pictures, and how are you going to

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stop that? Okay.

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Officials then got involved, they told Miss Lopez, your services

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next semester are no longer needed.

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emails were sent to student and faculty saying the incident is

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Islamophobic. So the other thing that bothers me here is the

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spinelessness of the administration. This at this

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point, we're not even talking about dean here. This is just

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character. This This administration has zero character,

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they have their complete bucklers that's why you no offense or

00:34:04 --> 00:34:07

anything, that's why you're admitted Hamlin, not

00:34:08 --> 00:34:12

a you miniature or some real school, right? No offense or

00:34:12 --> 00:34:15

anything, but you have no character. Okay, not to offend

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this, but you could be at a small time school and have great

00:34:18 --> 00:34:21

character. But you have no character in my opinion. You can't

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withstand the pressure. hemlines. President, finis Miller cosines an

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email that said respect for Muslim students should have superseded

00:34:33 --> 00:34:38

academic freedom. Okay, I love that. I love that. Why could but

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it had to have done right been done right? And this is not the

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right way to do it. You're doing this as a fear response. So to me

00:34:43 --> 00:34:47

that doesn't go right. It's a fear response. It's one of those might

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tails or between my legs emails. They did a town hall. They invited

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a Muslim speaker alright compared showing the images to teaching

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that Hitler was good.

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What

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At, firstly, why would you put Mohammed and Hitler in the same

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sentence in the first place?

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Think about that. Why would you put that in the same sentence? Do

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you know anything about psychology and persuasion? You're you're

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linking the two in the same set. Now Hitler's in this article,

00:35:19 --> 00:35:20

forget good or bad, he's in it.

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Who is this the speaker? It's not even close to that. Just say yes,

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some people devoted themselves to Islam. By drawing the Prophet This

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is forbidden. We would love for you to respect we understand it's

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a secular school, maybe a Christian school. It'd be nice for

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you to respect this part of our faith. Right. And Muslims who come

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and deal with people should also think about the reaction of that

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person. Because we're here not just to establish what's right and

00:35:52 --> 00:35:55

wrong in our religion. We're here also to win over people.

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Isn't that when we were doing the live stream, the screen sided

00:36:01 --> 00:36:05

podcast. We were all in and we were hurling haymakers at the

00:36:05 --> 00:36:11

liberals. At some point, I realized is our is our goal.

00:36:11 --> 00:36:12

What's so funny, right?

00:36:13 --> 00:36:20

Yeah, is our goal to smash these types of liberal Muslims, or to

00:36:20 --> 00:36:21

change their minds?

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The enemies like the Zionist those people who are truly oppressing

00:36:27 --> 00:36:29

you, your job is to smash them. You're not changing their mind,

00:36:29 --> 00:36:32

you have to stop them first. But when we're talking about the

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lukewarm type of Muslim that's a little bit on the side. Do we want

00:36:36 --> 00:36:41

to scare them off and crush them? Or do you want to win them over?

00:36:41 --> 00:36:45

First of all, the human beings just like you, they may have

00:36:45 --> 00:36:49

limitations may have made mistakes, whatever. So your job is

00:36:49 --> 00:36:52

actually to win people over not to smash them. We have to keep that

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in mind when we deal with these people who are there as a core

00:36:56 --> 00:36:57

ANSYS laser.

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Laser so up, not all disbelievers are against you. They're not all

00:37:02 --> 00:37:07

the same. Some of them may not know better, maybe that's their

00:37:07 --> 00:37:09

belief, but they're trying to be respectful like this lady here.

00:37:10 --> 00:37:14

Other of them, they're out to insult you. Okay, lasers, so the

00:37:14 --> 00:37:16

treatment cannot be the same. Okay.

00:37:17 --> 00:37:22

Now, guess what happened? The response free speech supporters

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have now started their own campaign. And Islamic art

00:37:26 --> 00:37:31

historian wrote an essay defending Dr. Lopez, demanding the

00:37:31 --> 00:37:35

university's Board investigate the matter. It had more than 2800

00:37:35 --> 00:37:38

signatures free speech. See this Wednesday. You're now going to

00:37:38 --> 00:37:41

have cartoons of the Prophet everywhere now. You gotta go

00:37:41 --> 00:37:45

sensitively with this because this to me, is an oppression. It's an

00:37:45 --> 00:37:49

oppression you oppressed this lady. Other people they have done

00:37:49 --> 00:37:54

far worse in their cartoons and far worse response. I'm happy to

00:37:54 --> 00:37:57

see it. Right. It's not oppression. This guy was trying to

00:37:57 --> 00:37:59

insult your profit whatever he gets he gets at that point.

00:38:01 --> 00:38:05

For free speech groups and publications issued blistering

00:38:05 --> 00:38:09

critiques. Penn America called it one of the most egregious

00:38:09 --> 00:38:12

violations of academic freedom in recent memory, a bit of a stretch.

00:38:14 --> 00:38:18

A bit of a stretch, I probably would say that the biochem

00:38:18 --> 00:38:21

whatever professor from NYU was worse.

00:38:22 --> 00:38:25

The Muslims themselves debated whether the action was

00:38:25 --> 00:38:26

Islamophobic.

00:38:28 --> 00:38:30

Arguments over academic freedom have been fought on campuses for

00:38:30 --> 00:38:34

years, but they can be especially fraught at small private colleges

00:38:34 --> 00:38:38

like Hamline, which are facing shrinking enrollment and growing

00:38:38 --> 00:38:42

financial pressures. To attract applicants, they diversified their

00:38:42 --> 00:38:45

curriculum tried to be more welcoming to students who have

00:38:45 --> 00:38:48

been historically shut out of higher education. Meanwhile,

00:38:48 --> 00:38:51

professors everywhere often face pushback for their academic

00:38:51 --> 00:38:57

decisions from activist students and conservative lawmakers. If I

00:38:57 --> 00:39:01

ran a college activism would be not allowed on my campus. Go to

00:39:01 --> 00:39:06

class, go home, old school, go go to class. What activism? Why do

00:39:06 --> 00:39:09

you need a student club for the environment? Why do you need

00:39:09 --> 00:39:11

because if he opened for the environment have to open for

00:39:11 --> 00:39:14

everything? No student clubs, right? You want to do a student

00:39:14 --> 00:39:15

club for a hobby.

00:39:16 --> 00:39:20

For a hobby, right for to get a job or whatever to help you get

00:39:20 --> 00:39:24

jobs blah, blah, blah. Not no activism here.

00:39:26 --> 00:39:32

Dr. Lopez, her stitch print Dr. Lopez prayed her situation was

00:39:32 --> 00:39:35

especially precarious. She's an adjunct. Now she's on

00:39:35 --> 00:39:38

unemployment, one of higher education underclass of teachers

00:39:38 --> 00:39:43

see what I told you, the underclass, the rubbish of the

00:39:43 --> 00:39:48

teaching class. They work for very little pay, receiving few of the

00:39:48 --> 00:39:52

workplace protections few zero workplace protections. I don't

00:39:52 --> 00:39:55

even think you got a contract. You get a statement of employment. You

00:39:55 --> 00:39:58

know the difference. A contract gives you rights statement of

00:39:58 --> 00:39:59

employment says

00:40:00 --> 00:40:03

We are hiring you and we will pay you $2,500 You're not signing

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anything.

00:40:06 --> 00:40:09

There was a guy, I'm not gonna mention his name, he opened up an

00:40:09 --> 00:40:12

Islamic school. Scott was a shrewd businessman, you have millions of

00:40:12 --> 00:40:15

dollars. So he opens up an Islamic school, he hires all the teachers.

00:40:16 --> 00:40:20

He announces one day, the numbers aren't cutting it, we're cutting

00:40:20 --> 00:40:23

all your pay by 25%. They flipped out they said we have a contract

00:40:23 --> 00:40:26

is not a contract. It's a statement of employment. Right?

00:40:26 --> 00:40:30

Just no contract or you have no rights. I trust me, I sympathize

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with this because I did this for about a couple years until I

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finally got full time. Right. And I did this for a couple years in

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misery. In misery, not only misery to me, misery to the students to

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be I'm in a bad mood. I don't care what you have to say, I have no

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office hours, I have office hours listed on the paper. But I'm not

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coming, right.

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I'm not taking the things as seriously as I could, because I'm

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exhausted, teach upstair up an hour.

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North, then I have to go an hour south, then I gotta go back

00:41:01 --> 00:41:05

another hour north. Or on Wednesdays, I go in our north, I

00:41:05 --> 00:41:10

go an hour south. I go another ourself three colleges, right?

00:41:12 --> 00:41:15

Who has time to prepare and to really care, right? I know, I

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know, I know, this stuff. I lecture from my mind. Right? I

00:41:19 --> 00:41:22

don't give out homework because I'm not checking it. And when I

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was forced to give out homework, or part of my other job was to

00:41:27 --> 00:41:31

check the homework of the full time professors, I would literally

00:41:31 --> 00:41:35

have a pile this big, I go down to my little, it was like a garage

00:41:35 --> 00:41:39

basement was an office behind the garage, have all my papers there.

00:41:40 --> 00:41:45

And I would have a lecture or some Quran or something that I would be

00:41:45 --> 00:41:52

listening to. And I agreed all the way from like 9pm by by 1030. I'm

00:41:52 --> 00:41:58

like doing this by 1030. If there's Arabic on the page, um,

00:41:58 --> 00:42:02

check, check, check, check, check. If there's Arabic on the page,

00:42:02 --> 00:42:06

you're too exhausted. That's how you do to make ends meet. Right.

00:42:07 --> 00:42:10

And so when they're saying they're, they're there, they got

00:42:10 --> 00:42:15

this lady fired. They really don't know what they've done. They work

00:42:15 --> 00:42:17

for little pay, they have no protections. Okay.

00:42:20 --> 00:42:23

They're oppressing someone who's taken the scraps. Okay.

00:42:25 --> 00:42:29

Yeah, kind of realize how like self consumptive like self

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destructive self consumptive this entire liberalism philosophy is

00:42:32 --> 00:42:37

here. Right? At the end of the day, your goal is to liberate the

00:42:37 --> 00:42:40

oppressed. What are you going you're the biggest oppressor

00:42:40 --> 00:42:42

you're the biggest oppressor you go after someone who has little to

00:42:42 --> 00:42:45

no pain, no proper contract, you turn out you are just like the

00:42:45 --> 00:42:49

Marxist. Now. The car, the Marxist and the communists, they went out

00:42:49 --> 00:42:51

for the little guy, right? Because they could hear

00:42:53 --> 00:42:56

their claim is that we're gonna hear for the little guy. They

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become the biggest killers, right?

00:43:01 --> 00:43:02

After

00:43:04 --> 00:43:08

what was the second generation Stalin? Stalin is what the third

00:43:08 --> 00:43:10

leader right, who was the first one?

00:43:11 --> 00:43:16

Lenin started with Lenin, right? Lenin, then who, then someone

00:43:16 --> 00:43:20

else, then Stalin? The guy is the biggest killer of all people. He's

00:43:20 --> 00:43:27

the most feared, dude. And so, you start you come off to liberate,

00:43:27 --> 00:43:29

but your beliefs

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are limited. They're not right. Okay, so the only way and they're

00:43:34 --> 00:43:39

subjective. The only way to actually do to establish this is

00:43:39 --> 00:43:42

by force. And that's why every ideology,

00:43:44 --> 00:43:48

every speculative ideology, that require that does not touch the

00:43:48 --> 00:43:52

heart. That is totally materialistic. Its justice in a

00:43:52 --> 00:43:57

materialistic manner, must be established by force. You go to

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Christianity, Judaism, Islam, even Buddhism, let's say even Hinduism.

00:44:01 --> 00:44:04

These are things that appeal to your heart.

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And by appealing to your heart, you do by yourself. So all you

00:44:08 --> 00:44:11

need is people to preach the message. And pretty much most of

00:44:11 --> 00:44:12

the people they'll either do it by themselves.

00:44:15 --> 00:44:18

Africans tells us that there was no one in between only a dispute

00:44:18 --> 00:44:22

with Trotsky who didn't really have a strong claim. So there you

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go. The second generation you became the biggest killers, right?

00:44:25 --> 00:44:28

So these woke this woke mob

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they're claiming

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to be these good doors. Everyone's walking around scared of you and

00:44:36 --> 00:44:40

wants you to be finished. She did actually she followed like every

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single rule in the live everything. Yes. A trigger

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warning. Yeah, the very beginning of the semester written a written

00:44:47 --> 00:44:50

warning with the with a chance for you to talk call me Come talk to

00:44:50 --> 00:44:54

me. There's consequences if you don't participate in this. Before

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the images were displayed. She gave a trigger warning. She said

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anyone who wants to step out can step out over here. Yeah, she

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played it by

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By the Book, meaning if you follow their rules Yeah, she follows the

00:45:04 --> 00:45:07

liberal rulebook to the to the liberal rulebook, she ends up

00:45:07 --> 00:45:11

losing. Unbelievable. How was I was that fair? And there? Oh,

00:45:11 --> 00:45:19

yeah. And she, she did this with the approval of her boss. So from

00:45:19 --> 00:45:22

an input from an HR standpoint, how am I getting fired? My boss

00:45:22 --> 00:45:25

approved this. Why am I getting fired? Is my boss getting fired?

00:45:26 --> 00:45:30

How is this fair? Like from an HR perspective, she could sue? Well,

00:45:30 --> 00:45:31

she can't sue because adjuncts have no,

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they have no right. She just told to finish out the semester and

00:45:35 --> 00:45:39

goodbye to you. Even though she followed the rules. Yeah, she

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followed the rules. She bought the book. So

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it's a mob associated with it's a complete mob. Now university

00:45:50 --> 00:45:55

officials and administrators who are in my book, weasels, scared

00:45:55 --> 00:45:58

people who have no character, no principle. They all declined

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interviews. Why? Because you're, you know, you're wrong. That's

00:46:01 --> 00:46:05

why. But Dr. Miller, the school's president defended the decision in

00:46:05 --> 00:46:08

a statement to look upon an image of the Prophet Muhammad for many

00:46:08 --> 00:46:12

Muslims is against their faith. A wonderful statement said with the

00:46:12 --> 00:46:16

wrong impetus, there is we have in Islam, the concept of Kenya to

00:46:16 --> 00:46:22

hack UI button, there is the correct statement, okay. But in

00:46:22 --> 00:46:26

the wrong context, in the wrong context, like for example, if I go

00:46:26 --> 00:46:31

in, and, and I start charging the jizya, to my neighbors here to the

00:46:31 --> 00:46:36

tenants, and I said, You are now in a Muslim home, right? So you're

00:46:36 --> 00:46:39

in a Muslim property, and from here on, you are going to pay me

00:46:39 --> 00:46:46

$750 A year as it Jersey attacks. Then the state arrests me, right

00:46:46 --> 00:46:49

for this mistreating the tenants? And I say,

00:46:51 --> 00:46:54

No, the Sharia has to be defended, right? We should uphold the

00:46:54 --> 00:46:57

shittier shit, though that's a correct statement in a wrong

00:46:57 --> 00:47:02

place. So wonderful. I'm glad he said this. I'm happy he said that.

00:47:03 --> 00:47:05

But the whole impetus of the thing is to me is wrong.

00:47:08 --> 00:47:12

It was important that our Muslim students as well as other students

00:47:12 --> 00:47:18

feel safe. Now don't use this language. Please. Please do not

00:47:18 --> 00:47:20

use this language. Right.

00:47:21 --> 00:47:25

Don't use this language, safe, supported, respected. Why don't we

00:47:25 --> 00:47:29

give them hugs and hold them like this at lunchtime to take a nap?

00:47:29 --> 00:47:33

Right? Oh, my goodness, the coddling of this generation is so

00:47:33 --> 00:47:38

ridiculous. They really should go spend a semester in Europe where

00:47:39 --> 00:47:42

they could care less how you feel about your Islam. Right? They

00:47:42 --> 00:47:42

will.

00:47:44 --> 00:47:49

I mean, this is good. But the whole ethos behind it I'm against,

00:47:49 --> 00:47:52

right. I'm against this whole ethos. Yeah.

00:47:54 --> 00:47:57

In a December interview with the school paper, the student who

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complained to the administration, autumn weather Tala,

00:48:01 --> 00:48:07

you Iran. Now, RM era Melenchon amedd. Which What is this

00:48:07 --> 00:48:11

described being blindsided by the image because you didn't read?

00:48:12 --> 00:48:15

Because you didn't read? She told you in the syllabus? I'm like,

00:48:15 --> 00:48:18

This can't be real. What do you mean, this can't be real?

00:48:19 --> 00:48:23

Don't you have What world are you living in? This can't be real.

00:48:23 --> 00:48:27

Have you seen things Number? 110 times worse. If you know anything

00:48:27 --> 00:48:31

about Islamic images, Islamic art and architecture. It's all over

00:48:31 --> 00:48:34

the place. Let me It's haram but it's all over the place.

00:48:36 --> 00:48:40

She says she's Sudanese. As a Muslim and a black person. I don't

00:48:40 --> 00:48:41

feel like I belong.

00:48:42 --> 00:48:46

I don't feel I don't think I'll ever belong in a community. This

00:48:46 --> 00:48:50

language, I cannot stand this language. I can't stand this,

00:48:50 --> 00:48:54

this, the negativity of this that this generation has been taught to

00:48:54 --> 00:48:58

be so negative about everything. Just everything must be viewed

00:48:58 --> 00:49:01

from a lens, put this lens on. It's called the lens of

00:49:01 --> 00:49:04

negativity. I don't belong. I don't feel safe. I don't this

00:49:04 --> 00:49:07

you're going to create that. Because you keep

00:49:09 --> 00:49:10

speaking about that.

00:49:11 --> 00:49:14

Okay, I don't think I'll ever belong in a community where they

00:49:14 --> 00:49:18

don't value me as a member. And show me the respect. Wait a

00:49:18 --> 00:49:22

second. She showed you respect. She told you in advance. Come talk

00:49:22 --> 00:49:26

to me. If you have an issue with this. You did you talk to her.

00:49:27 --> 00:49:31

Todd Greene, who has written books about sama phobia said the

00:49:31 --> 00:49:34

conflict at Hamline was tragic because administrators pitted

00:49:34 --> 00:49:38

natural allies, those concerned about stereotypes of Muslims and

00:49:38 --> 00:49:42

Islam against one another. The administration he said closed down

00:49:42 --> 00:49:43

conversation when they should have opened it up.

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The painting shown and Dr. Lopez's class is in. You know, it's so

00:49:51 --> 00:49:56

terrible when people go around authority. And our religion says

00:49:56 --> 00:49:59

go through the homes through the go enter home

00:50:00 --> 00:50:03

through their doors, I would say I'm a dean. Okay, wait a second to

00:50:03 --> 00:50:07

just talk to the professor. There was an amazing Joe Torre, one of

00:50:07 --> 00:50:11

the best managers, at least for the Yankees. Right?

00:50:13 --> 00:50:16

One of the reasons he succeeded, he cleaned up this nonsense

00:50:16 --> 00:50:20

wherever he went, right? This backdoor nonsense. So he goes one

00:50:20 --> 00:50:22

time to a pitcher, who's not pitching that well.

00:50:23 --> 00:50:26

And he's like, what's going on? And you know, when they do it,

00:50:26 --> 00:50:30

they walk to the mound and talk to the pitcher. Right? He walks to

00:50:30 --> 00:50:33

the mound, and he talks to the pitcher and the pitcher goes on,

00:50:33 --> 00:50:35

man, this catcher, talking about the catcher. He's like the calls.

00:50:35 --> 00:50:38

He's making these guys. It's hard. He's horrible. He's terrible. He

00:50:38 --> 00:50:42

said, Okay. Catch her. Come. Say what you just said. No, no,

00:50:42 --> 00:50:45

everything's good. Everything's fine. Okay, so what she did you

00:50:45 --> 00:50:50

take out all this, Weasley Enos. That's what it is. It's Weasley

00:50:50 --> 00:50:55

Enos going on? Hey, you're coming to me the dean, did you talk to

00:50:55 --> 00:50:57

your preferred professor? Did you talk to the chair head of the

00:50:57 --> 00:51:00

department? Well, you come to the dean for right, go and look your

00:51:00 --> 00:51:01

professor in the eye and talk.

00:51:03 --> 00:51:05

If you don't know how to talk, we'll teach you how to talk.

00:51:05 --> 00:51:05

Right?

00:51:08 --> 00:51:12

All right, the painting is in an early Islamic illustration history

00:51:12 --> 00:51:17

called the compendium of Chronicles, written by Rashida

00:51:17 --> 00:51:22

Dean written during the 14th century by Rashid a dean. Okay,

00:51:22 --> 00:51:26

that's his first name. Where's his last name? It from 12 He lived

00:51:26 --> 00:51:30

from 1247 to 1318. Hey, right. Could you pull him up? Is that

00:51:30 --> 00:51:35

let's see who he is. Shown regularly in art classes. The

00:51:35 --> 00:51:38

painting shows a winged and crowned Angel Djibouti.

00:51:40 --> 00:51:41

Look up the guide not the painting.

00:51:43 --> 00:51:49

Maybe it is. But it shows a winged and crowned Angel Gabriel,

00:51:49 --> 00:51:54

pointing at the Prophet delivering to him the first Quranic

00:51:54 --> 00:51:59

revelation. This is this is from the era where the angels look

00:51:59 --> 00:52:04

Mongol. Everyone is Mongol. Right? Because those are that's the

00:52:04 --> 00:52:07

dominant image at the time. If you look at all those paintings,

00:52:07 --> 00:52:10

everyone looks like a Mongol. Right? What's his name? But also

00:52:10 --> 00:52:15

did Dean what? Yeah, get his biography. Just curious.

00:52:18 --> 00:52:22

The image is a masterpiece of Persian manuscript painting.

00:52:24 --> 00:52:29

says a professor of Islamic art at UMich. It is housed this painting

00:52:29 --> 00:52:32

is housed at the University of Edinburgh. Similar paintings are

00:52:32 --> 00:52:37

on display at the Met. And a sculpture of the Prophet is that

00:52:37 --> 00:52:38

the Supreme Court

00:52:41 --> 00:52:45

Dr. Gruber said that showing Islamic art depict and depictions

00:52:46 --> 00:52:49

of the Prophet Muhammad have become more common in academia

00:52:50 --> 00:52:53

because of a push to decolonize the canon that is expand

00:52:53 --> 00:52:58

curriculum bump beyond a western model. Dr. Gruber who

00:52:59 --> 00:53:02

Hamadan eonni she but let's read it anyway, just tell us he's a

00:53:02 --> 00:53:06

statesman, a historian, a physicist of the elcon its empire

00:53:06 --> 00:53:11

of Iran. He was born into a Persian Jewish family from Iran,

00:53:11 --> 00:53:13

he converted to Islam at the age of 30.

00:53:14 --> 00:53:19

With the elcon Zhan later, he commissioned by his king to right

00:53:19 --> 00:53:23

Joab. Jemma Tillery. All right, so he this is part of the Mongol

00:53:23 --> 00:53:28

Empire. Whatever the guys just looks like he's a courtier, keep

00:53:28 --> 00:53:30

going. What is this?

00:53:31 --> 00:53:36

After being charged with poisoning the king, he was executed, and

00:53:36 --> 00:53:39

he's a complete political guy, right? He's has nothing to do with

00:53:39 --> 00:53:44

anything. He's a public off. He's a prolific author. Okay, blah,

00:53:44 --> 00:53:47

blah, blah, biography significance. They don't even tell

00:53:47 --> 00:53:50

us anything about his theological. He's not theological. The guy's a

00:53:50 --> 00:53:54

complete, you know, political guy, right? He's a Muslim is a

00:53:54 --> 00:53:56

political guy, right? There's nothing much they're

00:53:57 --> 00:54:00

not like he's trying to make a point. And he apparently he had

00:54:00 --> 00:54:03

some painter, paint that in his book.

00:54:06 --> 00:54:08

In the Islamic world, it's not like you had religious people

00:54:08 --> 00:54:12

walking around. You had regular guys, right? Not to say that

00:54:12 --> 00:54:18

that's okay. But you had in the Islamic world, people just that

00:54:18 --> 00:54:22

we're not religious people, but we're Muslim and they loved Islam

00:54:22 --> 00:54:23

and they loved you know, their country.

00:54:25 --> 00:54:29

So Dr. Gruber rewrote this essay, new line magazine defending Dr.

00:54:29 --> 00:54:32

Lopez and he said that studying Islamic art without Compendium

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without the compendium of Chronicles would be like not

00:54:35 --> 00:54:37

teaching Michelangelo's David.

00:54:38 --> 00:54:43

Okay. Oh, Christiane guber. Sorry, not Christian. Yet most Muslims

00:54:43 --> 00:54:46

believe that visual representation of Muhammad should not be viewed

00:54:46 --> 00:54:48

even if the Quran does not explicitly prohibit them. The

00:54:48 --> 00:54:52

prohibition stems from the belief that an image of the Prophet

00:54:52 --> 00:54:55

Muhammad could lead to worshiping the Prophet rather than God, the

00:54:55 --> 00:54:58

God he served. I don't know if that's what it is because you

00:54:58 --> 00:54:59

could never do just

00:55:00 --> 00:55:02

is to it. That's really more of the reason and maybe some of that

00:55:02 --> 00:55:08

other one, that it would lead eventually to iconic, you know the

00:55:10 --> 00:55:11

icons etc.

00:55:12 --> 00:55:16

There are, however a range of beliefs. Some Muslims distinguish

00:55:16 --> 00:55:21

between respectful depictions and mocking caricatures, while others

00:55:21 --> 00:55:24

do not subscribe to the restriction at all I do differ

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between respect to images and mocking characters in how I would

00:55:28 --> 00:55:32

treat that person. Right? How I would treat this person. They're

00:55:32 --> 00:55:36

too lazy so they cannot be even, they're not the same one deserves

00:55:36 --> 00:55:40

whatever they get. Literally, whatever they get, the other one

00:55:40 --> 00:55:46

deserves to be told in a in a decent way. Right, that it's not

00:55:46 --> 00:55:46

right.

00:55:48 --> 00:55:49

Omid Safi.

00:55:52 --> 00:55:55

A professor of Asian and Middle Eastern Studies at Duke said he

00:55:55 --> 00:56:00

regularly shows the image of the Prophet in class. Without Dr.

00:56:00 --> 00:56:02

Lopez pratos upped up mechanisms.

00:56:04 --> 00:56:07

He explains his student these images were works of devotion

00:56:07 --> 00:56:11

created by pious artists at the behest of devout rulers. That's

00:56:11 --> 00:56:16

the part I want my students to grapple with. Dr. Safi said, How

00:56:16 --> 00:56:19

does something that comes from the very middle of the tradition end

00:56:19 --> 00:56:24

up being received later on as something marginal or forbidden?

00:56:25 --> 00:56:28

Well, because the middle of the tradition is not where the law is

00:56:28 --> 00:56:32

made, right? The law is established well earlier, and

00:56:32 --> 00:56:34

people in the middle of the tradition can do things that are

00:56:34 --> 00:56:40

wrong, right? So first thing is that just because something

00:56:40 --> 00:56:43

respectful does not mean it's high, that just because something

00:56:43 --> 00:56:45

is done with a good intention does not mean it's

00:56:46 --> 00:56:50

the good intention is needed for acceptability, but from from from

00:56:50 --> 00:56:55

Allah. But also, you got to, we follow the book, we go by the

00:56:55 --> 00:56:56

book, if the book says

00:56:58 --> 00:57:01

something is forbidden, your intention does not change that.

00:57:01 --> 00:57:04

Nobody had a good intention. Okay, maybe that means he'll get

00:57:04 --> 00:57:08

forgiveness faster. Right. That's what we say. When he gets he can

00:57:08 --> 00:57:11

get forgiveness faster if you have a good intention. But doesn't make

00:57:11 --> 00:57:15

it lawful. Your intent has literally nothing to do with what

00:57:15 --> 00:57:16

is right and what is wrong in Islam.

00:57:17 --> 00:57:23

Okay, it does have to do with the weight of your mistake. You in

00:57:23 --> 00:57:26

unintentionally killed someone you're still paying deer murder

00:57:26 --> 00:57:29

still, it's still killing it. But you're paying deer.

00:57:31 --> 00:57:34

An academic perspective, by the way, yeah, he's like trying to pit

00:57:34 --> 00:57:37

two ideas against each other. Yeah, show some apparent

00:57:37 --> 00:57:41

contradiction. Exactly. So I challenge you to try to take these

00:57:41 --> 00:57:45

two ideas work together to try to show that the fuck, they may not

00:57:45 --> 00:57:48

know what they're doing, or they're just speculative, or

00:57:48 --> 00:57:51

they're just reactionary or something like that. You read a

00:57:51 --> 00:57:54

biography realize he's not like an Islamic scholar. Yeah, just a

00:57:54 --> 00:57:57

random dude that was assigned to put a bunch of paintings. Exactly.

00:57:57 --> 00:58:02

Exactly. There's no theological statements here. He wanted to, I'm

00:58:02 --> 00:58:06

sure he sold these books, right? He's selling the books, the nicer

00:58:06 --> 00:58:08

the artwork in it. And at that time, they were all doing this,

00:58:08 --> 00:58:12

right. At that time. Also, their arcade was far messed up, right?

00:58:12 --> 00:58:16

Far worse. So when you were saying like, How could something in the

00:58:16 --> 00:58:20

middle of the tradition be later on viewed as haram? The entire

00:58:20 --> 00:58:22

elcon? Eight, I think the whole thing where they were Shay's

00:58:22 --> 00:58:26

right, so forget just an author of a book.

00:58:28 --> 00:58:31

Yeah, take a shot, and even make it seem like it's and a chef and a

00:58:31 --> 00:58:36

complete heresy could become the rule of a monarchy. Right and

00:58:36 --> 00:58:40

become the ruler of a whole country. We accept this. Yeah, at

00:58:40 --> 00:58:44

that time, the Sunni world was taken over for a while by Morteza

00:58:44 --> 00:58:45

li leaders. Okay.

00:58:46 --> 00:58:53

Now, Dr. Lopez is a self described art nerd. She said she knew about

00:58:53 --> 00:58:56

the potential for conflict on October 6, when she began her

00:58:56 --> 00:59:01

online lecture. It's online to on top of that you're not even

00:59:01 --> 00:59:05

cornered in a classroom. This thing is getting worse. The

00:59:05 --> 00:59:09

student is not even cornered in a classroom. It's an online class.

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Man, are you kidding? The laptop? Seriously, log off for two

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seconds, go back to looking at your phone, you know, I guarantee

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you're not even looking in the first place. She said she spent a

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few minutes explaining why she was showing the image how different

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religions have depicted the divine and how standards changed over

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time, blah, blah. I do not want to present the art of Islam as

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something that is monolithic. Okay, she said an interview adding

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that she had been shown the image as a grad student. She also showed

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a second image from the 16th century that depicted the Prophet

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covered in a veil with a veil. Dr. Lopez Prater said that no one in

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class raise concern. There was no disrespectful commentary. After

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the class ended. Miss wedded to a business major and president of

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the university's MSA

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They stuck around to voice her discomfort

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after the class, okay, fine, good after the class is over, but wait

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a second, she gave you a chance to do this before class. But way

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before. Immediately afterwards, Dr. Lopez sent an email to her

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department, Allison Baker about the encounter she thought misled

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itself in my complaint. Miss Baker, the chair of the digital

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and Studio Art Department responded to the email minutes

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later, it sounded like you did everything right. I believe in

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academic freedom. So you got to have my support.

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Okay, as Dr. Lopez predicted Misurata tele reach out to the

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administrators Dr. Lopez, with Miss Baker's help wrote an

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apology. Now here's the thing. You're spineless. stick to the

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rules that you did that you had. I gave you a chance to leave.

01:00:51 --> 01:00:55

I gave you a chance to leave. Why are we apologizing here? Okay.

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Not apologizing doesn't mean you have to be mean. It doesn't mean

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you have to be disrespectful. But you could not. You don't have to

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don't apologize for something you didn't do wrong. You can be really

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nice but not apologize at the same time. Firmness and

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firmness and meanness and disrespect are not coupled

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together. They're separate things. They wrote an apology. They

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explained that sometimes diversity involves bringing contradicting

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uncomfortable and coexisting truths into conversation with each

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other. Mr. Atala declined an interview request, why did you

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decline? Right? If you're the hero of the story?

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Yeah, this is a Muslim, she's a youth youth can make maybe make a

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mistake, maybe get whatever. But

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and she did not explain why she had not raised concerns before the

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image was shown. That's why you can't give an interview. Right?

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You can't give an interview because that's the first question

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I'm going to be given. Right.

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But in an email statement, she said image of the Prophet Muhammad

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should never be displayed. I agree with you. 100%. I agree with the

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sister 100%. Right. And I'm sure she's coming with the right

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intention, everything but the way that this went about and

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the way that you're dealing with someone to try to respect you, and

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you ended up getting them fired.

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And that Dr. Lopez gave a trigger warning precisely because she knew

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such images were offensive to many Muslims. The lecture was so

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disturbing that she could no longer see herself in that course.

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Four days after class. Miss Lopez, Dr. Lopez was summoned to a video

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meeting with the dean Marcela, Costa Hova. Dr. COSTA Hova

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compared showing the image to using a racial epithet for black

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people.

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Some images, I would say is similar to that.

01:02:50 --> 01:02:51

This image

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was very clear to me that she had not talked to any art historians.

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A couple of weeks later, the university rescinded its offer to

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teach next semester, Dr. Lopez said she was ready to move on she

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had teaching jobs at other schools. But on November 7, she's

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going to be invited to all the you know, anti Islamic conferences, so

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she'll have a living for herself. She had teaching jobs at other

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schools, she said. But on November 7, David Everett, the Vice

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President for inclusive excellence, sent an email sent an

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email to all university employees saying that certain actions taken

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in an online class were undeniably inconsiderate, disrespectful and

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Islamophobic. I really feel that although those words are nice,

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it's more driven from the fear of the mob.

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Because remember, Muslims, as long as we're in, in America, we get

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the minority tag.

01:03:45 --> 01:03:50

Islam in a Muslim country is draconian, it's anti freedom. It's

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whatever, right?

01:03:53 --> 01:03:56

You always have to look at it that way. It's not about you being

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Muslim, it's about you being a minority. That's the truth of the

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matter. As long as you're in the minority, you will get the

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sympathy and you'll be treated with these gloves. But as soon as

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you're the majority, you're treated as repressive, backward,

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etc.

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The administration,

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after meeting with the schools Muslim Student Association would

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host an open forum on the subject of Islamophobia. Dr. Lopez,

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who had only begun teaching at Hamline in the fall said she felt

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like a bucket of ice water had been dumped over her head but the

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shock soon give away to blistering anger at being characterized in

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those terms by somebody who I have never even met or spoken with. How

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fair is that? How unfair is that? Right? Like you've never even

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talked to that no one talked to this woman to the teacher. Yet

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you're gonna go and do this to her. You're gonna get a reaction.

01:04:49 --> 01:04:54

The Quran warns us. Be mindful of how you respond. Don't create

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something worse, right. Don't create something bad. Don't create

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an enemy when you don't need

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This person is permanently traumatized by Islam. No. And by

01:05:04 --> 01:05:10

Muslims. That's how she's really right to say this. Right

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blistering anger at being characterized

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in those terms by someone I'd never even met. You had one online

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conversation after class after she had invited you to talk.

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Now, for the Muslim sister Jani.

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You're responsible for this.

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Fortunately, I hate to say that but

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she reached out to Dr. Gruber who ended up writing the essay and

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starting the petition. Yeah, now all the artists are gonna get

01:05:38 --> 01:05:43

together. Right? And it may end up being something far worse. All

01:05:43 --> 01:05:46

right, let's, let's take a look at what else is going on here.

01:05:47 --> 01:05:53

The forum turns emotional, really. So there's more at the December 8

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Forum, which was attended by several dozen students, faculty

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and administrators, Miss Weda, Tala described through tears, how

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she felt seeing the image. Well, I'm sort of glad that her fitrah

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is that way. Right? That's, that's wonderful. Like I'm saying, yeah,

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she's the Muslim. We also have vitamin Omid lumen, the Prophet

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said, you support your Muslim brother in the right and in the

01:06:17 --> 01:06:20

wrong in the right, we know how to support them when they're in the

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wrong is by by lovingly correcting them, or advising them. And, and

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it might have sounded harsh what I said before, but now that they

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bring a human to it, and it's,

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you know, most of that, okay, I would still say you did wrong to

01:06:36 --> 01:06:39

the sister to this, I mean to this woman, you did wrong to this

01:06:39 --> 01:06:44

professor. The fifth three responses wonderful. The fact that

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you cannot see the prophesy sentiment and image like that and

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you want him honored, you will get rewarded for that. Right. But you

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also got to do things right.

01:06:53 --> 01:06:57

Who do I call it ADM? She asked when you see someone disrespecting

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and offending your religion.

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Okay, other Muslim students on the panel. All black women also spoke

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tearfully about struggling to fit in at Hamline students of color in

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recent years had protested what they call the racist incidents.

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The university they said paid lip service to diversity and did not

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support students with institutional resources. The main

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speaker was Jay Lani Hussain.

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Beautiful name

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is he holding Subhas you have a turban on with that name, right.

01:07:30 --> 01:07:35

Abdul Qadir jeelani Hussain, the executive director at Kerr Muslim

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civil rights group discussion started to

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Jelani Hussein, it says that the instructors action he said hurt

01:07:42 --> 01:07:45

Muslim students and students of color and had absolutely no

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benefit.

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Honestly, what color is involved in this color is a separate issue.

01:07:50 --> 01:07:53

It may be an issue, but you can be an Albanian Muslim is to be

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offended, right? If this institution wants to value these

01:07:57 --> 01:08:01

students, he added it cannot have incidents like this happen. I have

01:08:01 --> 01:08:05

trouble with the characterization of this the intent and the stuff.

01:08:05 --> 01:08:09

I have trouble with this incident when this is something that could

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have actually been avoided if we went about things the right way.

01:08:12 --> 01:08:14

And it was not like someone's trying to offend you.

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If somebody wants to teach some controversial stuff about Islam go

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teach it at the local library. But wait a second is a secular school

01:08:21 --> 01:08:26

though. Right? And she's She told you anyway, let's keep going Mark

01:08:26 --> 01:08:30

Berkson, or wait, why would the local library be fair? Wait, we

01:08:30 --> 01:08:35

all pay for that. Right? That's that's worse because our tax money

01:08:35 --> 01:08:38

goes there. Right? I'm sure he's just using it as an expression.

01:08:38 --> 01:08:42

But that makes less sense because that's the public this is a

01:08:42 --> 01:08:45

private school. It would seem that you could say whatever you want in

01:08:45 --> 01:08:49

private more so than in public. Anyway. I'm sure he didn't you

01:08:49 --> 01:08:54

just saying that. But Mark Burks in a religion professor at Hamline

01:08:54 --> 01:08:58

raised his hand. When you say trust Muslims on his stomach

01:08:58 --> 01:09:03

phobia, Dr. Berkson asked, What does one do when the Islamic

01:09:03 --> 01:09:06

community itself is divided on an issue? Thank you very much. The

01:09:06 --> 01:09:08

painting was made by a Muslim

01:09:09 --> 01:09:13

from their perspective, right? heretical, Orthodox, they could

01:09:13 --> 01:09:16

care less or Muslim. Because there are many Muslim scholars and

01:09:16 --> 01:09:20

experts and our historians who do not believe that this was

01:09:20 --> 01:09:20

Islamophobic.

01:09:22 --> 01:09:26

Mr. Hussein responded that there were marginal and extremist voices

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on any issue. You can teach a whole class about why Hitler was

01:09:29 --> 01:09:32

good, Mr. Hussein said Why are you bringing Hitler with the name of

01:09:32 --> 01:09:35

the prophets? I said no, I don't get these people. Yeah, cool

01:09:35 --> 01:09:39

enough. Allah. You have missed Mr. Kerr. Whatever. Jay Daniel was

01:09:39 --> 01:09:40

saying, Okay.

01:09:43 --> 01:09:46

Should never utter the word Hitler in a conversation about Muhammad

01:09:46 --> 01:09:52

Sallallahu he was telling them you're a public. Jonnie media is

01:09:52 --> 01:09:56

your job. That's care, right? Media. They use the media to get

01:09:56 --> 01:09:59

their way sometimes they use the courts to get their way sometimes

01:10:00 --> 01:10:02

There are persuasive techniques.

01:10:04 --> 01:10:08

That Hitler argument is like the go to it should know. It's the go

01:10:08 --> 01:10:12

to argument, you know? Yeah, yes, that's it. That is it.

01:10:13 --> 01:10:18

Yes. Oh my gosh, that it's a thing on the internet that as soon as

01:10:18 --> 01:10:21

the word Hitler is mentioned, the conversation is done with, right.

01:10:24 --> 01:10:30

During the, say, the Virgin Mary say, Mother Teresa, right, say

01:10:30 --> 01:10:33

someone could come up with controversial things, say

01:10:33 --> 01:10:36

something that has a decent association in the eyes of people.

01:10:37 --> 01:10:40

During the exchange, Mr. Baker, the department head and Dr.

01:10:40 --> 01:10:43

Everett, the administrator, separately walked up to the

01:10:43 --> 01:10:48

religion Professor put their hands on his shoulder and said this was

01:10:48 --> 01:10:51

not the time to raise these concerns. They shut him down his

01:10:51 --> 01:10:52

bosses

01:10:54 --> 01:10:56

but Dr. Berkson who said he strongly supported campus

01:10:56 --> 01:11:02

diversity said he felt compelled to speak up, you see how we're in

01:11:02 --> 01:11:07

such awkward times where on the on the on the issue of process. And

01:11:07 --> 01:11:11

with that said, on the issue of the content of force of what the

01:11:11 --> 01:11:17

Muslim said, right. But in terms of process, and you set some

01:11:17 --> 01:11:20

standards for yourself as a secular university, you set some

01:11:20 --> 01:11:25

rules, right? You follow them? Right. And none of the Muslims

01:11:26 --> 01:11:28

took the avenues you gave them to differ.

01:11:29 --> 01:11:31

So on the issue a process I'm with them.

01:11:32 --> 01:11:37

And also Yanni we Muslims, we don't just cut next all the time.

01:11:38 --> 01:11:41

Even me, I'm the biggest supporter of cutting Next, a lot of next

01:11:41 --> 01:11:45

should be cut. Right? But cutting next in the wrong place is not

01:11:45 --> 01:11:49

right. And when I say cutting next, I mean that hyperbolically

01:11:49 --> 01:11:53

Right, meaning, drawing the line in the sense and shutting down

01:11:53 --> 01:11:58

people who are making fun of you. But when it's when the hammer goes

01:11:58 --> 01:12:01

down on the wrong person, I feel bad, right? I feel like this is

01:12:01 --> 01:12:02

this is wrong.

01:12:03 --> 01:12:05

In the process, thank you.

01:12:06 --> 01:12:11

Thank you, there needs to be added in the means as well as nobility

01:12:11 --> 01:12:16

in the end may be noble, the means also must be noble. And this to

01:12:16 --> 01:12:20

me, I don't feel I felt as though we were being asked to accept. I

01:12:20 --> 01:12:27

mean, the part where she's sacked like that. And humiliated is the

01:12:27 --> 01:12:30

end result of getting the university to not show these

01:12:30 --> 01:12:35

images is wonderful. Right. But that she was a victim that I think

01:12:35 --> 01:12:39

worse is going to come because of this. Like it's going to spark a

01:12:39 --> 01:12:43

movement against the Prophet Seisen. And we're we are warned to

01:12:43 --> 01:12:46

take that into consideration. Not just you just go in with your

01:12:46 --> 01:12:48

cannons, no matter what happens. No, like,

01:12:50 --> 01:12:51

except, yeah, visual.

01:12:52 --> 01:12:55

Visual entities aren't accepted because the seven that they take.

01:12:55 --> 01:12:59

It's not there's no other than the correct reason we have established

01:12:59 --> 01:13:01

procedures. Yeah, all the procedure, even though they might

01:13:01 --> 01:13:05

have a good end. Yeah. It might take down some oppressive rulers.

01:13:05 --> 01:13:11

Yes. And, and every good end of a vigilante is a temporary end. It's

01:13:11 --> 01:13:13

never going to be like that. It's there's always going to be a

01:13:13 --> 01:13:19

response. Right? Because if if if you could arrive at a wonderful

01:13:19 --> 01:13:22

end and be consistent upon that, and have buttock of life flow from

01:13:22 --> 01:13:26

that, that would negate that. It's vigilantism, right? Baraka and the

01:13:26 --> 01:13:30

long term benefit is only going to grow when the meat and when the

01:13:30 --> 01:13:37

means are also pure. And just. And I still stand by the idea that Dr.

01:13:37 --> 01:13:42

Lopez here was was mistreated. We were being asked to accept without

01:13:42 --> 01:13:45

questioning that what our colleague did teaching Islamic art

01:13:45 --> 01:13:48

masterpiece in a class on our history, after having multiple

01:13:48 --> 01:13:52

warnings, was somehow equivalent to mosque vandalism, and violence

01:13:52 --> 01:13:55

against Muslims and hate speech. This is what I could not stand and

01:13:55 --> 01:13:59

I agree with him. It's not hate speech. It's wrong. It disrespects

01:13:59 --> 01:14:03

Muslims. But the intent of the person who we have to take into

01:14:03 --> 01:14:07

account, I agree with him on process on other things. Another

01:14:07 --> 01:14:10

issue is that everything is equated to the most extreme form

01:14:10 --> 01:14:14

possible. Yeah. And there's no like Shades of Grey. Meaning that

01:14:14 --> 01:14:17

you do this, you're just like, supporting Hitler. Yeah, I mean,

01:14:17 --> 01:14:22

this is just like, yeah, exactly how committed you're, you're

01:14:22 --> 01:14:26

minimizing that, you're minimizing that. And I would say, Hold on a

01:14:26 --> 01:14:30

second, you're not powerful enough to be like Hitler, right. You

01:14:30 --> 01:14:34

cannot offend us in the same way. You know, it's upon Allah.

01:14:35 --> 01:14:40

In interviews, several Islamic art scholars took issue with the idea

01:14:40 --> 01:14:45

that Dr. Lopez intended to disrespect the prophet, and said

01:14:45 --> 01:14:48

that it was nothing like the cartoons and Charlie Hebdo, the

01:14:48 --> 01:14:51

French satirical magazine, that had reprinted mocking cartoons of

01:14:51 --> 01:14:56

the Prophet that led to the deadly till 2015 attack at the magazines

01:14:56 --> 01:14:59

office, which scholars also denounced

01:15:00 --> 01:15:04

Edward Mitchell, the Deputy Executive Director of the National

01:15:04 --> 01:15:08

chapter of care, national chapter, how does that make sense? Why

01:15:08 --> 01:15:12

didn't the national the national headquarters write the national

01:15:12 --> 01:15:14

will be the main thing and the chapter would be the local ones

01:15:14 --> 01:15:18

anyway, said that he did not have enough information to comment on

01:15:18 --> 01:15:22

the Hamline dispute. But while his group discourages visual

01:15:22 --> 01:15:25

depictions of the Prophet, he said that there was a difference

01:15:25 --> 01:15:29

between an act that was on Islamic and one that was Islamophobic.

01:15:29 --> 01:15:33

That's a nice way to put it. That is a good way to put it. What's

01:15:33 --> 01:15:34

going on in the chat.

01:15:38 --> 01:15:43

Anything on marriage, marriage conversation, bless you guys want

01:15:43 --> 01:15:44

to try to get these people married.

01:15:46 --> 01:15:52

Okay, I really liked this. So good quote from Ed Mitchell. Brother Ed

01:15:52 --> 01:15:52

Mitchell, by the way,

01:15:54 --> 01:15:57

on Islamic versus Islamophobic. If you drink a beer in front of me,

01:15:57 --> 01:16:00

you're doing something that is honest nomic, but not

01:16:00 --> 01:16:04

Islamophobic. Thank you. Right. That's what we said. You join a

01:16:04 --> 01:16:08

culinary arts school. They cook pork and wine. Don't say to them,

01:16:08 --> 01:16:11

they're trying to offend. You know, you signed up for a secular

01:16:11 --> 01:16:16

French culinary art school. Right? Now, if you drink beer in front of

01:16:16 --> 01:16:19

me deliberately, because you're trying to offend me. Well, maybe

01:16:19 --> 01:16:22

that's a different matter. Thank you. It's a matter of intent. You

01:16:22 --> 01:16:25

come from another mosque. And you get 10. Guys, let's all just drink

01:16:25 --> 01:16:29

beer and eat pork. Firstly, that doesn't bother me. Number one.

01:16:29 --> 01:16:31

You're Not You can't offend me with that number number one, but

01:16:31 --> 01:16:34

number two, your intent is to offend me. It's very different

01:16:34 --> 01:16:36

than just guy walking down the road and he's drinking a beer.

01:16:37 --> 01:16:42

Ryan's professor. Yeah, that's an intent to disrespect, good. intent

01:16:42 --> 01:16:46

and circumstances matter. He said, especially in a university

01:16:46 --> 01:16:51

setting, where academic freedom is critical. And Professors often

01:16:51 --> 01:16:54

address sensitive and controversial topic. So this guy,

01:16:54 --> 01:16:57

he hit the nail on the head. Intent is what matters. It's I

01:16:57 --> 01:17:00

like to hear people saying the same stuff that we're saying

01:17:00 --> 01:17:02

because that shows that on a matter of opinion, your opinion

01:17:02 --> 01:17:06

has weight. If you have an opinion on a matter of opinion, and your

01:17:06 --> 01:17:10

opinion is way off and no one else shares that opinion. Chances are

01:17:10 --> 01:17:12

you're not the genius, you're probably wrong about some of the

01:17:12 --> 01:17:16

facts or your line of thinking is incorrect. Because the number of

01:17:16 --> 01:17:19

geniuses in the world who are going to arrive at the right

01:17:19 --> 01:17:21

opinion on a speculative matter.

01:17:23 --> 01:17:27

to the exclusion of everyone else. Right is

01:17:28 --> 01:17:33

very slim. Dr. Safi, the Duke professor said Hamline had

01:17:33 --> 01:17:36

effectively taken sides in a debate among Muslims, whether it

01:17:36 --> 01:17:39

took the wrong the right side technically, students don't have

01:17:39 --> 01:17:42

to give up their values. He said he added but some part of the

01:17:42 --> 01:17:47

educational process does call for stepping beyond each one of our

01:17:47 --> 01:17:51

vantage points enough to know that none of us have the monopoly on

01:17:51 --> 01:17:56

the truth. Okay, so this is relativism in Islam. Dr. Omid Safi

01:17:56 --> 01:18:01

is a relativist within Islam, like everything goes, okay, as long as

01:18:01 --> 01:18:05

you have a good heart, that's like I get his soul to me that as long

01:18:05 --> 01:18:08

as you have a good heart, you're devoted, everything goes.

01:18:10 --> 01:18:12

Of course, he doesn't go by the FIP saying that it was in the

01:18:12 --> 01:18:15

secular and I don't think he would say the same thing. If you're

01:18:15 --> 01:18:18

under the Samick University, like within zaytuna. I hope they're not

01:18:18 --> 01:18:23

displaying pictures. Like I think everyone would say, I hope this

01:18:23 --> 01:18:27

within the secular paradigm of multiculturalism. Yeah, have to do

01:18:27 --> 01:18:32

with, of course, in that in that respect, but I would assume and

01:18:32 --> 01:18:33

that a college like say tuna.

01:18:35 --> 01:18:39

You can't just be a Muslim college. What most what Islam, I

01:18:39 --> 01:18:40

had a certain knowledge about the four schools.

01:18:42 --> 01:18:46

It anism like, where do you draw the line? Are you drawing the line

01:18:46 --> 01:18:47

on the autism?

01:18:48 --> 01:18:51

Well, why not draw it on Shiism? Then why not draw it on?

01:18:54 --> 01:18:59

Allah vism, Syrian, Syrian and Turkish elevates who we also hold

01:18:59 --> 01:19:03

their beliefs necessitate? Like where do you draw the line? So

01:19:03 --> 01:19:06

you're going to draw the line on the cutter yet that are motivated?

01:19:07 --> 01:19:11

Why not draw them on the cutter yet that are not whatsoever? That

01:19:11 --> 01:19:15

are just I had, right. But there's still a Yeah, that's a line of

01:19:15 --> 01:19:18

code and the line of bitter, like, where do you draw the lines? You

01:19:18 --> 01:19:22

got to draw lines. So the point being, you draw your lines where

01:19:22 --> 01:19:26

you draw them, but the process should be just explain to everyone

01:19:26 --> 01:19:30

where are the lines? Right? And then people should respect that

01:19:30 --> 01:19:31

liberals included?

01:19:32 --> 01:19:36

Dr. Safi has his own personal image of the Prophet. As we said,

01:19:36 --> 01:19:39

he his school of thought is that as long as it's devotional and

01:19:39 --> 01:19:45

good intentioned, then it's fine. Right? And good. So but we say

01:19:45 --> 01:19:50

that that's a heretical view. Okay, that no, that's not, that's

01:19:50 --> 01:19:53

not the line. The line is the language of the Quran and the

01:19:53 --> 01:19:59

Hadith as understood by what the Arabs meant by those words.

01:20:00 --> 01:20:03

That's common sense. What is Islam? Islam is what God and His

01:20:03 --> 01:20:07

Prophet said is Islam. Okay? Well, we're gonna use the words the

01:20:07 --> 01:20:08

words that they uttered

01:20:09 --> 01:20:13

in the Hadith, and that's written in the Quran. Okay, well, who's

01:20:13 --> 01:20:16

the arbiter of those what the meanings of those words are the

01:20:16 --> 01:20:20

Arabs at that time and before, not afterwards. So there was no

01:20:20 --> 01:20:25

redefining of language, it's very, it's a fair way to determine what

01:20:25 --> 01:20:28

a religion is. The religion defines itself with its own

01:20:28 --> 01:20:32

primary sources. And the language must be defined by that period of

01:20:32 --> 01:20:35

time or before, not afterwards, we're not going to come and change

01:20:35 --> 01:20:39

the definitions, no one has the right to define Kumar, later on,

01:20:40 --> 01:20:43

you define it beforehand. So that's why pre Islamic poetry is

01:20:43 --> 01:20:46

very important, and the understanding of the Sahaba that

01:20:46 --> 01:20:47

generation.

01:20:49 --> 01:20:52

And then you could say, up to 100 years when the last Sahabi died.

01:20:53 --> 01:20:56

That's how we defined it. Now, if it's, it's going to be either

01:20:56 --> 01:21:00

explicit or interpretive. If it's explicit, then there's no way you

01:21:00 --> 01:21:03

can go against it. If it's interpretive, then you can have

01:21:03 --> 01:21:07

variety of opinions. That's how simple it is. But those opinions

01:21:07 --> 01:21:10

can never contradict an explicit verse, or Hadith.

01:21:11 --> 01:21:14

So he has his own personal image of the Prophet when he was 14, his

01:21:14 --> 01:21:20

family fled to the US from Tehran, during the Iran Iraq War, he

01:21:20 --> 01:21:23

packed an image of Mohammed holding a Quran

01:21:24 --> 01:21:29

into one of the family suitcases. The image doesn't make any sense

01:21:29 --> 01:21:32

because the Quran was not bound in a book in the time of the prophet

01:21:32 --> 01:21:37

in the first place. That's another story. But this image now hangs on

01:21:37 --> 01:21:41

his wall at home. Alright, so that's his opinion on things which

01:21:41 --> 01:21:46

we will disagree with completely. From internally as Muslims, we

01:21:46 --> 01:21:49

will say no, that's, that's not the way we define Islam is not by

01:21:50 --> 01:21:55

whatever is done nicely and with a good feeling and a good intent

01:21:55 --> 01:21:57

does not make it right. Right.

01:22:00 --> 01:22:04

Alright, so the comments here are pretty much in line with what

01:22:04 --> 01:22:08

we're saying here. Like, they really did not like the way this

01:22:08 --> 01:22:09

went down. Okay.

01:22:11 --> 01:22:15

See, once again, it's religion that untangles our society, and

01:22:15 --> 01:22:17

causes division and trauma. So

01:22:18 --> 01:22:22

this is the type of this is the type of reaction. Whereas if this

01:22:22 --> 01:22:28

was a disrespectful image, with clear intent to disrespect, and

01:22:28 --> 01:22:31

then someone did something bad to this person, people would view it

01:22:31 --> 01:22:32

differently.

01:22:33 --> 01:22:35

I'm so dismayed. Okay.

01:22:38 --> 01:22:39

All these comments.

01:22:43 --> 01:22:44

So

01:22:46 --> 01:22:50

there we go. That is our session. Let's go to open q&a. If you want

01:22:50 --> 01:22:54

to stick to this topic, you can, preferably but if you need to

01:22:54 --> 01:22:55

discuss something else.

01:23:02 --> 01:23:05

There's a great story that's coming to my mind right now. About

01:23:05 --> 01:23:10

this. There's this I think, woman from maybe remembering this wrong,

01:23:10 --> 01:23:11

but when

01:23:12 --> 01:23:16

did you get curious on all these places, they're, they're like

01:23:16 --> 01:23:20

Muslim, Honey by name. But in this country, there are a lot of like

01:23:20 --> 01:23:24

secular ideologies, which probably is influenced from Russia is

01:23:25 --> 01:23:32

communist or not, but within this country, it's, it's illegal for a

01:23:32 --> 01:23:36

woman to wear hijab inside public buildings and that country in this

01:23:36 --> 01:23:39

country, right? But it's, it's the Muslim country, but there are

01:23:39 --> 01:23:41

these ideologies that have seeped in and

01:23:43 --> 01:23:43

transformed things.

01:23:45 --> 01:23:46

So

01:23:48 --> 01:23:51

this is a blog that was written by a Muslim woman she was writing

01:23:51 --> 01:23:53

out, she met this lady

01:23:54 --> 01:23:57

in like a park and she was with the playground, she asked this

01:23:57 --> 01:23:57

lady like,

01:23:58 --> 01:24:01

don't you ever want to go back home like things like I'm stuck in

01:24:01 --> 01:24:04

the US? Like, we have all this Islamophobia and people look at

01:24:04 --> 01:24:07

you weird when we're at a job and you get side stares, or like side

01:24:07 --> 01:24:10

glances and comments and all this like, where's you'd just rather go

01:24:10 --> 01:24:14

back to your home country? Did you? Please choose from

01:24:14 --> 01:24:17

Tajikistan? She said, Are you kidding me? This place is

01:24:17 --> 01:24:21

incredible. Yeah, even though I may be getting these looks on

01:24:21 --> 01:24:23

these comments, I'm still able to wear my hijab wherever I see.

01:24:24 --> 01:24:27

That's why I went when I say something like, Oh, you don't like

01:24:27 --> 01:24:30

this go to France. See what life is like? It's not to say that,

01:24:30 --> 01:24:35

that that that makes the situation right. But it makes it the best of

01:24:35 --> 01:24:39

your alternatives. Like you have to understand that relativity like

01:24:39 --> 01:24:43

that is that's what we have to deal with. Would you rather be a

01:24:43 --> 01:24:45

Muslim here or in Egypt?

01:24:46 --> 01:24:49

If you want to talk the you better be here.

01:24:50 --> 01:24:54

You can't give talks like this and live in Saudi. They'll set you

01:24:54 --> 01:24:58

down. By the way. When I was there, one brother. He lives in

01:24:58 --> 01:24:59

Saudi he did a stream with me

01:25:00 --> 01:25:05

Months ago, he told me by the way, I was called by someone who said,

01:25:05 --> 01:25:08

By the way, I have an in with some of the security that is take that

01:25:09 --> 01:25:10

that episode you did with me, right?

01:25:12 --> 01:25:16

They're watching, and they're telling him warning him right

01:25:16 --> 01:25:17

about different episodes that he did.

01:25:19 --> 01:25:20

You don't have anything like this happen here.

01:25:22 --> 01:25:25

It's a gratefulness. It's kind of like a lack of perspective.

01:25:25 --> 01:25:29

That's, it's totally perspective. And it's totally, it's simply the

01:25:29 --> 01:25:29

issue of

01:25:31 --> 01:25:34

it's not it doesn't mean something is right. Just because you need to

01:25:34 --> 01:25:38

be thankful for it. But it means that trust me out there in the

01:25:38 --> 01:25:44

world is far, far worse. Okay. And yeah, as we said, the end result

01:25:44 --> 01:25:47

is something we are happy to see that they're not going to show it

01:25:47 --> 01:25:50

but the way we got there to me is wrong, and will cause worse

01:25:50 --> 01:25:54

problems later on. It will cause something worse in my opinion. All

01:25:54 --> 01:25:58

right, let's go to the question. Massoud. Can you please update the

01:25:58 --> 01:26:03

mbf recordings to the scenes it podcasts? Yes. Right. Can you see

01:26:03 --> 01:26:05

what what's going on with that they're not on?

01:26:06 --> 01:26:10

I think we have to put them onto SoundCloud. Audio files on

01:26:10 --> 01:26:13

SoundCloud. Can you see how we we are we do it?

01:26:27 --> 01:26:32

How can we define such Sophia? Or apply diversity and inclusion as

01:26:32 --> 01:26:36

Muslims following the Sharia? It all depends on every contract that

01:26:36 --> 01:26:40

we're in. Right? It all depends on the contract that we're engaged

01:26:40 --> 01:26:44

in. That's all that we're talking about. It's all about the

01:26:44 --> 01:26:49

contract. So every single contract is going to be different, some of

01:26:49 --> 01:26:52

which do not require us to ask about people's faith and religion,

01:26:53 --> 01:26:56

such as a tenant. If I have a tenant in the city, I'm not

01:26:56 --> 01:27:00

required to ask the details of how they plan on living.

01:27:04 --> 01:27:08

But if I run a masjid, I do have to check what doctored of my

01:27:08 --> 01:27:11

speaker right like that.

01:27:12 --> 01:27:14

Chocolate Wallace says,

01:27:15 --> 01:27:18

chocolate while here is an interstellar fin with an

01:27:18 --> 01:27:18

interstellar

01:27:20 --> 01:27:23

icon, their thumbnail, whatever you call it, what do you call it?

01:27:24 --> 01:27:25

profile pic.

01:27:27 --> 01:27:30

You had said we can take technical Dini knowledge from a teacher that

01:27:30 --> 01:27:35

had their private sins exposed? Does that extend to the knowledge

01:27:35 --> 01:27:39

of Quranic knowledge of CDs insofar as it is technical meaning

01:27:39 --> 01:27:44

that it's something that can be objectively shown such as awkward

01:27:44 --> 01:27:45

and flip.

01:27:46 --> 01:27:51

Right? Also tafsir can be that and Tafseer can sometimes be what's

01:27:51 --> 01:27:55

called tafsir HRT which is, which is about

01:27:58 --> 01:28:02

spiritual insights, spiritual insights is one thing. But when

01:28:02 --> 01:28:07

it's something like technical, tough see it related to a hadith

01:28:07 --> 01:28:14

and language that can be taken even if the person had their sins

01:28:14 --> 01:28:14

exposed?

01:28:16 --> 01:28:18

Is it okay to read him? knucklebones books? Yes.

01:28:20 --> 01:28:24

Kevin Bacon says how should we treat learning in Islamic Western

01:28:24 --> 01:28:29

in western Islamic institutions? I really would have to see, to be

01:28:29 --> 01:28:33

honest with you what they're saying. And I'm not like some kind

01:28:33 --> 01:28:37

of judge but I would that's the method would be to see what each

01:28:37 --> 01:28:43

individual College has put there as their starting point. Are they

01:28:43 --> 01:28:47

saying that they're just Muslim and leaving it open? Are they

01:28:47 --> 01:28:52

saying it This is a sunnah to me? That's important, right? I need to

01:28:52 --> 01:28:55

know where what I'm going to be learning here

01:28:58 --> 01:29:01

what's the best way to seek protection from a real an oncoming

01:29:01 --> 01:29:06

human threat is to recite Hassan Allah when Emma will kill many

01:29:06 --> 01:29:08

many, many many times

01:29:15 --> 01:29:19

can we reach Simpson mod if no, you cannot even own it? It's haram

01:29:19 --> 01:29:23

to own you have to burn it. Why? Because it has in it the means by

01:29:23 --> 01:29:29

which you can contact evils. Jen, can you tell me how one of my

01:29:29 --> 01:29:32

elders uses all different calendar times

01:29:33 --> 01:29:35

within the form of hubs to read salah.

01:29:38 --> 01:29:40

I asked them they say this is my personal Iman.

01:29:42 --> 01:29:45

So fetcher how Yanni. I don't understand.

01:29:48 --> 01:29:51

They use all different calendar times within the four month hubs

01:29:51 --> 01:29:53

to read their Scylla to pray.

01:29:58 --> 01:29:59

God if EOS adrenaline like

01:30:00 --> 01:30:04

Like Hanafi Asad when he wants to Hanafy the HUD one he wants to

01:30:04 --> 01:30:04

like that.

01:30:06 --> 01:30:09

It's not the right way to do things, it's to show him the right

01:30:09 --> 01:30:11

way to do things is to find a methodology

01:30:12 --> 01:30:16

and to live by that methodology. Okay, that's the right way to do

01:30:16 --> 01:30:17

things.

01:30:20 --> 01:30:25

I was washing the toilet says, Australia 21. And some of the

01:30:25 --> 01:30:29

water splashed on my clothes while the toilet water in Australia goes

01:30:29 --> 01:30:31

down the opposite way. Right? Because they're from the south.

01:30:32 --> 01:30:35

There was no visible filth in the water. Do I still have to change

01:30:35 --> 01:30:39

out of them? No, no, Jessa must be something that you can see. If you

01:30:39 --> 01:30:41

cannot see it, you're not obligated to suspect it?

01:30:43 --> 01:30:47

Yes, or smell it? Right. Or taste it?

01:30:48 --> 01:30:53

No, don't taste good. But no, you don't have to. It's we don't

01:30:53 --> 01:30:55

assume the gesture just by suspicion.

01:30:56 --> 01:31:01

But if you have a doubt, such that there was an adjustment in the

01:31:01 --> 01:31:02

toilet at the same time,

01:31:03 --> 01:31:05

then you would have to you don't have to take your clothes off

01:31:05 --> 01:31:09

either. You just have to run water on that part of the clothes that

01:31:09 --> 01:31:12

you think gotten the Gesa on it. And that's enough.

01:31:14 --> 01:31:19

Um, MJ says, Are these session live saved yesterday. They're all

01:31:19 --> 01:31:24

saved on YouTube. And they should be on SoundCloud and Spotify and

01:31:24 --> 01:31:29

on iTunes and but apparently we had a delay in that. Right so

01:31:29 --> 01:31:31

we're uploading all of them.

01:31:34 --> 01:31:38

Can I listen to a cut he says hop using my headphones while reciting

01:31:38 --> 01:31:41

Quran in my salah to help me with Tedrick love.

01:31:42 --> 01:31:46

Sophia says how do you explain to a layman that Salamis are not like

01:31:46 --> 01:31:50

the four methods to follow?

01:31:54 --> 01:31:54

Yeah.

01:31:58 --> 01:32:02

You can explain that simply by asking them

01:32:05 --> 01:32:10

how old they are, and how many checks they went through. You see

01:32:10 --> 01:32:14

the beauty of the methods that have been checked time after time

01:32:14 --> 01:32:20

after time. For centuries. They have been checked. Right? You have

01:32:20 --> 01:32:21

to manually do this.

01:32:24 --> 01:32:26

Yeah, once it's once it's an mp3.

01:32:28 --> 01:32:32

Oh, that's why No, it won't read that. I don't know how open open

01:32:32 --> 01:32:33

it up and make it an mp3

01:32:37 --> 01:32:41

Tell them Okay, go. Sofia saying I did that they don't get it. You

01:32:41 --> 01:32:44

say okay, go and follow that path. Let's talk in 10 years.

01:32:47 --> 01:32:51

I don't like resistance to be honest with you. If you have if

01:32:51 --> 01:32:53

you know what you're doing. You don't never need to do resistance,

01:32:53 --> 01:32:58

right? You never need to resist just go do it. Someone says hey,

01:32:59 --> 01:33:02

was Madigan Abu Hanifa

01:33:03 --> 01:33:05

What did they do? They read the Quran. They read the Hadith. They

01:33:05 --> 01:33:08

came with the conclusion. So why can I do this empty? Say okay, go

01:33:08 --> 01:33:13

do it. Get yourself some followers, see what happens. Okay.

01:33:15 --> 01:33:20

What's a good place to learn Arabic online? Hey, what's the

01:33:20 --> 01:33:22

school that you guys go to studio out of you?

01:33:25 --> 01:33:25

What's it called?

01:33:29 --> 01:33:32

properly, properly or studio out of em.

01:33:33 --> 01:33:39

Enza GEMA says, What's the best way to show gratitude to Allah

01:33:39 --> 01:33:44

subhanaw taala? Well, quite simply, gratitude to Allah has a

01:33:44 --> 01:33:45

couple of

01:33:47 --> 01:33:53

conditions. Okay. Next first condition is that you do not use

01:33:54 --> 01:33:58

you recognize that the NAM is from Allah to Allah. And you've, you

01:33:58 --> 01:33:59

Thank you.

01:34:00 --> 01:34:01

Thank you. Okay.

01:34:03 --> 01:34:04

With your mouth,

01:34:05 --> 01:34:08

in your heart, that's the first thing recognizing where the number

01:34:08 --> 01:34:12

came from. And that is not from you. See, we say in our religion,

01:34:12 --> 01:34:16

that evil comes from us, but good comes from Allah. Why is that?

01:34:17 --> 01:34:20

Because the good that you do.

01:34:21 --> 01:34:22

You get rewarded for it.

01:34:24 --> 01:34:28

You will get rewarded for it. But there's a chain that led you to

01:34:28 --> 01:34:32

that good. Where did that chain come from? All gifts from Allah.

01:34:33 --> 01:34:36

So you have to be thankful for all evil Allah warned you against it

01:34:36 --> 01:34:39

told you not to do it yet you still did it. So evil we attribute

01:34:39 --> 01:34:43

to ourselves. Good we attribute to Allah subhanho wa Taala and the

01:34:43 --> 01:34:46

sick heart does the opposite attributes all good to himself

01:34:46 --> 01:34:49

becomes arrogant and when something bad happens, whereas

01:34:49 --> 01:34:54

God's mercy was gonna have to do with it right. So number one is

01:34:54 --> 01:34:56

you thank Allah to Allah in your heart and your tongue number two,

01:34:56 --> 01:34:58

you do not use it in the Haram

01:34:59 --> 01:35:00

that's

01:35:00 --> 01:35:05

As for it, you use it only in the Hello. Now the Nefer the extra is

01:35:05 --> 01:35:11

to use it to help others that is sugar and hunt and that's what

01:35:11 --> 01:35:13

being grateful for Your blessing this

01:35:14 --> 01:35:15

so I had all my says

01:35:19 --> 01:35:23

one Moroccan lady broke her leg and did in hospital had surgery

01:35:23 --> 01:35:27

hamdulillah one nurse accepted Islam by seeing her yes, because a

01:35:27 --> 01:35:30

lot of people the reaction to suffering

01:35:32 --> 01:35:35

reflects their Iman. Right and people like wow, this is something

01:35:35 --> 01:35:35

else.

01:35:36 --> 01:35:37

Okay

01:35:43 --> 01:35:48

many stars mom is involved now in the live stream. What's her name?

01:35:49 --> 01:35:55

Macro star. There's a mini has to have the major right. Sophia says

01:35:55 --> 01:35:58

I told her look at how they treat the prophets. I send them she said

01:35:58 --> 01:35:59

look at

01:36:01 --> 01:36:03

this group of people who don't follow them. Others said Look how

01:36:03 --> 01:36:05

they treat the Prophet. That's true. They're not they don't have

01:36:05 --> 01:36:08

near that respect. Okay.

01:36:11 --> 01:36:15

Yeah, of course, they always have a very close relationship with

01:36:15 --> 01:36:19

little Surahs of course, yes. Knowing that, you know, especially

01:36:19 --> 01:36:20

a very high level.

01:36:22 --> 01:36:26

almost definitely Subhan Allah they do every day. They're saying

01:36:26 --> 01:36:30

sallallahu alayhi wa sallam many times and caring about his words

01:36:30 --> 01:36:35

and pressing it on protecting it. There's there's a salami, or sugar

01:36:35 --> 01:36:38

heavy, publicly stated it was actually crying about I've never

01:36:38 --> 01:36:39

seen it.

01:36:41 --> 01:36:44

And students are trying to justify it being like, he doesn't need it.

01:36:44 --> 01:36:45

Yeah.

01:36:46 --> 01:36:47

But

01:36:48 --> 01:36:50

yeah, proof is in the pudding, proofs in the pudding because the

01:36:50 --> 01:36:56

messenger does not increase the value or the So Ed. If someone if

01:36:56 --> 01:36:59

their update is wrong, which is what Turquoise is asking, Can we

01:36:59 --> 01:37:02

pray behind Wahhabi if he has explicit statements of touch seem

01:37:02 --> 01:37:06

than the answer is not explicit, we don't assume it. explicit

01:37:06 --> 01:37:07

statement of touch screen.

01:37:08 --> 01:37:12

And there are many, right? There are many.

01:37:13 --> 01:37:18

For example, one of them has, that Allah has a shadow. Why? Because

01:37:18 --> 01:37:23

Allah says seven are in the shade of Allah on the day that there is

01:37:23 --> 01:37:27

no shade but his shade meaning his, the sun is above him. And

01:37:27 --> 01:37:32

there's a shadow being cast from God. Really, that does not even

01:37:32 --> 01:37:36

what the language means. It means he created that shade and he owns

01:37:36 --> 01:37:36

it.

01:37:38 --> 01:37:43

So keep me in your DUA, if you could. I've been sick. And he's in

01:37:43 --> 01:37:45

the hospital for so pays in the hospital.

01:37:47 --> 01:37:50

Allah subhanaw taala give him as she felt

01:37:52 --> 01:37:53

as well as for Triple H.

01:37:54 --> 01:37:56

May Allah give Sophia Shiva

01:37:57 --> 01:38:00

a spa know us behind molecular Allah Al Hamdulillah, Bella and

01:38:00 --> 01:38:04

me. Oh, my MJ says what is today aka who is eligible? Typical. It's

01:38:04 --> 01:38:08

just like, it's a spiritual path. And just I just said that about

01:38:08 --> 01:38:12

Jelenia Hussein, because the people of today tend to love the

01:38:12 --> 01:38:16

color. Jana and Jana Sena remember Hussein? So his name had that

01:38:18 --> 01:38:21

kind of white, I just came back from vacation. Has time been

01:38:21 --> 01:38:25

changed? Yes, we're now at one to three, we go from one to 3pm.

01:38:30 --> 01:38:34

Elite says Why didn't you study at a city college like University of

01:38:34 --> 01:38:35

Medina.

01:38:37 --> 01:38:41

I was actually had signed up and was accepted at mechas Omokoroa.

01:38:41 --> 01:38:46

University. And they said go take the two years language class. Two

01:38:46 --> 01:38:51

years language course. In Medina, this was 1998.

01:38:52 --> 01:38:58

Okay, so my dad goes checks it out. I went to Morocco, right?

01:39:00 --> 01:39:03

My dad said, Oh, while you're there, I'll go to Medina. Check it

01:39:03 --> 01:39:07

out. He's checks it out. And he comes upon some of these, you

01:39:07 --> 01:39:09

know, they might get offended. But some of them were happy kids.

01:39:10 --> 01:39:14

And he was like, just from a federal perspective. Oh, what is

01:39:14 --> 01:39:14

this?

01:39:15 --> 01:39:19

My son's not going to last with these people. Right? These people

01:39:19 --> 01:39:23

are too much. They're too much. Oh, they're too much, man. Some of

01:39:23 --> 01:39:26

these they were they were too much. So he

01:39:27 --> 01:39:30

I didn't know what it will have. He was what a medic. He was I

01:39:30 --> 01:39:33

didn't know anything. Right. That's why I love that age.

01:39:33 --> 01:39:37

Because that age to me was such a moving that phase of Islam when

01:39:37 --> 01:39:42

you're just coming in and just figuring things out. Right. So

01:39:43 --> 01:39:46

at that time, there weren't a lot of Islamic institutions. There was

01:39:46 --> 01:39:46

that one.

01:39:47 --> 01:39:51

And it was like, No, we're not going to do that. Morocco.

01:39:51 --> 01:39:56

Egyptians don't send their kids to Morocco. Right. And then Syria.

01:39:56 --> 01:40:00

People had warned us No, don't go to Syria. So my parents

01:40:00 --> 01:40:03

was like, Okay, well, we'll go to Syria. It just wasn't something

01:40:03 --> 01:40:04

that you could learn a lot about.

01:40:07 --> 01:40:08

If you didn't have a connection,

01:40:09 --> 01:40:12

right? You only you can only learn what you knew what you had

01:40:12 --> 01:40:15

connections for. So it's not like today where I can go to internet I

01:40:15 --> 01:40:19

can even contact these people on WhatsApp. And it's a lot.

01:40:20 --> 01:40:23

But it works. Yeah, as the Arabs call it, what's

01:40:25 --> 01:40:29

it wasn't really like that, right? So I ended up having just to study

01:40:29 --> 01:40:33

privately with people. Also, you know what I would think maybe if I

01:40:33 --> 01:40:39

went to an institution that had exams and stuff, it may turn you

01:40:39 --> 01:40:43

know, may make it forced. And when the knowledge is forced, you may

01:40:43 --> 01:40:43

not like it.

01:40:47 --> 01:40:51

I'm looking for equipment says a for my mask, like Mike and Mike

01:40:51 --> 01:40:54

stance. I don't know anything about it, to be honest with you.

01:40:55 --> 01:40:58

As Hawk says, Is there anything beneficial Islamically about

01:40:58 --> 01:41:01

working with sick people or in a hospital? Yes, remembrance of

01:41:01 --> 01:41:04

death and taking the love of dunya from your heart, but I'm sure

01:41:04 --> 01:41:06

though at some point it becomes monotonous.

01:41:07 --> 01:41:12

Beatty says British Telecom says if someone is dying, is it haram

01:41:12 --> 01:41:15

to ask Allah to take years of their life and give it to them?

01:41:15 --> 01:41:19

No, we don't do that. Just ask Allah to cure them. That's it.

01:41:21 --> 01:41:22

Yeah.

01:41:23 --> 01:41:26

Doesn't have to be like that to give. Yes. That's true.

01:41:27 --> 01:41:32

Yeah, exactly. That sort of gives the impression that

01:41:33 --> 01:41:38

he's jammed by a pre determined destiny and Allah has never jumped

01:41:41 --> 01:41:41

Thank you.

01:41:45 --> 01:41:47

You don't need to say he's asked May Allah increase his life and

01:41:47 --> 01:41:48

make a difference you

01:41:51 --> 01:41:54

can you tell us about the white scarf? No, it is not. It is a

01:41:54 --> 01:41:58

sunnah to wear a white scarf according to Matic insula or to

01:41:58 --> 01:42:02

the masjid as Kulu Xena to command the colon Masjid Malik interpreted

01:42:02 --> 01:42:05

as the shawl around your scarf, or over your shoulder? That's all

01:42:05 --> 01:42:08

it's not anything more than that. And I just happened to be wearing

01:42:08 --> 01:42:08

it. That's all

01:42:13 --> 01:42:16

Okay, everyone, M star is now mini star.

01:42:17 --> 01:42:18

Or just Mini?

01:42:22 --> 01:42:27

Joanna, is the ex father in law? Still a Muharram? To the divorce

01:42:27 --> 01:42:32

who has children? And the answer is yes. But it is just mcru to

01:42:32 --> 01:42:35

reveal your hair in front of them. But they are still Muharram you

01:42:35 --> 01:42:41

can never marry them. But and they are Muharram by this mcru to

01:42:41 --> 01:42:44

reveal your head at your hair in front of them. Why? Because

01:42:45 --> 01:42:49

the relationship is no longer there. The reason for their mommy

01:42:49 --> 01:42:53

is no longer there. But they are so modern to Dr. Eddie nimbala.

01:42:54 --> 01:42:59

How do we use the book of dua it's named moko Leyba by the m&e

01:42:59 --> 01:43:00

scholars of Balawi.

01:43:02 --> 01:43:05

I didn't see the book, but I'm assuming that you can just read

01:43:05 --> 01:43:05

freely from it.

01:43:08 --> 01:43:11

Can you go into Macaulay but I remember it actually. It's a huge

01:43:11 --> 01:43:14

book. I actually do remember it.

01:43:16 --> 01:43:17

Ryan's gonna pull it up right now.

01:43:20 --> 01:43:24

Mocha Eva is a massive drop book, which keep going let's see what

01:43:24 --> 01:43:25

the pages look like.

01:43:27 --> 01:43:32

It seems to me that it's just that it's big book, very big book. But

01:43:32 --> 01:43:35

it seems to me it's like all different a day. Yeah. I need to

01:43:35 --> 01:43:36

get the book actually.

01:43:38 --> 01:43:40

Mas que says yesterday you mentioned the difference between

01:43:40 --> 01:43:43

scholars and layman his intentions? What does that mean?

01:43:43 --> 01:43:48

It means that the most important part of scholarship is to learn

01:43:48 --> 01:43:54

how to make a good intention. And what is a good intention? Right? A

01:43:54 --> 01:43:57

common person may not know that the mundane actions that you do

01:43:57 --> 01:44:02

all day, you can transform that into rewardable action. Everything

01:44:02 --> 01:44:05

that you could do, can be transformed into rewardable

01:44:05 --> 01:44:09

action. And that study is why Allah subhanaw taala says in the

01:44:09 --> 01:44:14

max Allah homenaje bad the Lord, the true piety, the true awe of

01:44:14 --> 01:44:20

Allah is, is in the main majority in the hearts of the scholars. Why

01:44:20 --> 01:44:25

because he knows the wisdoms behind every action. He knows the

01:44:25 --> 01:44:29

great results of different Eva dots, and how they draw nearer and

01:44:29 --> 01:44:33

therefore that knowledge is able to allow them to get rewarded for

01:44:33 --> 01:44:37

every thing that they're doing all the time. Even they're sleeping.

01:44:39 --> 01:44:43

Exactly. The inner and outer meaning and wisdom of actions.

01:44:43 --> 01:44:47

That's one of the reasons why the Scholars get so much reward is

01:44:47 --> 01:44:49

because they're able to now make intentions.

01:44:51 --> 01:44:52

For example,

01:44:54 --> 01:44:59

a lot of the scholars, their youth work is nothing special.

01:45:00 --> 01:45:03

Right, but they're making the intention of at least keeping them

01:45:03 --> 01:45:04

away from something that's how to

01:45:05 --> 01:45:06

go.

01:45:12 --> 01:45:16

Barbarossa says, Sometimes I cry when I'm praying, what will you

01:45:16 --> 01:45:20

say for me for knowing? I'm not keeping my pray all the time.

01:45:23 --> 01:45:26

If you're not keeping your prayers up all the time, as much as you

01:45:26 --> 01:45:30

can you keep working on that until you pray five times a day. Then,

01:45:31 --> 01:45:35

after you pray five times a day for a good period of time, then

01:45:37 --> 01:45:39

you can now calculate what you missed and make them up.

01:45:42 --> 01:45:45

My heart is heavy, please make a dua that Allah and creates me

01:45:45 --> 01:45:49

peace, says Khalil Hamza. May Allah subhanaw taala ease your

01:45:49 --> 01:45:50

burdens and you know that

01:45:51 --> 01:45:54

when your heart is heavy, the prophets I seldom said the salah

01:45:54 --> 01:45:56

upon him is what removes anxiety. So

01:45:57 --> 01:46:02

get busy with that and ask Allah to reveal or relieve your heart,

01:46:02 --> 01:46:06

and also repeat 100 times a day or Bucha. Honey somebody way silly,

01:46:06 --> 01:46:12

Emery. Rubbish. Friday, Saturday was cilium X. X oil says, Is it

01:46:12 --> 01:46:16

true you have to be intimate with your husband within two weeks of

01:46:16 --> 01:46:17

being married? No, there's no such rule like that.

01:46:18 --> 01:46:23

Intimacy is assumed from as soon as you get married, like what is

01:46:23 --> 01:46:27

the purpose of getting married, except if a circumstance happens

01:46:27 --> 01:46:32

in between, such as a circumstance, like he's out of

01:46:32 --> 01:46:35

town or he had to leave or something like that. Maybe she got

01:46:35 --> 01:46:38

married in a time where they couldn't be intimate with each

01:46:38 --> 01:46:44

other. So there's no such rule of when but there is a rule that if

01:46:44 --> 01:46:48

there's a clause in the contract that says I will not be intimate

01:46:48 --> 01:46:53

with you. That clauses invalid. Let's say a woman says I want to

01:46:53 --> 01:46:54

get married, but I don't want anyone touching my body.

01:46:55 --> 01:46:59

So as you put that in a clause in a marriage contract, that clause

01:46:59 --> 01:47:02

is null and void the whole purpose of marriage. One of its main

01:47:02 --> 01:47:06

purposes is to allow each other to touch and look at each other.

01:47:07 --> 01:47:07

So

01:47:08 --> 01:47:12

I said Davies A salaam aleikum, hope all's well yes hamdulillah

01:47:13 --> 01:47:17

shadow kill, please make two out my father has passed away

01:47:17 --> 01:47:20

recently. Allah Tata give him genitive for the dose without any

01:47:20 --> 01:47:21

he said.

01:47:22 --> 01:47:25

Can you tell us about the end of life of Imam Malik he was sick at

01:47:25 --> 01:47:28

the end of his life and he stopped going to the masjid. Right.

01:47:29 --> 01:47:33

And then he passed away when he passed away. He said

01:47:34 --> 01:47:37

that you will all be shocked at the mercy of Allah.

01:47:39 --> 01:47:42

Coming from someone who is known for his strict statements.

01:47:44 --> 01:47:48

Dr. Eadie says why is it that some issues are so controversial across

01:47:48 --> 01:47:52

the spectrum of medicine? Yet some teachers say there's a huge amount

01:47:52 --> 01:47:55

about their judgment, like much on marriage accepted by some which

01:47:56 --> 01:48:00

there is no way any Sunni scholar will allow from what's our

01:48:00 --> 01:48:06

marriage, the prophet forbade it. Okay. Said naughty informed said

01:48:06 --> 01:48:09

Now, if not best that it was forbidden, except that sin of

01:48:09 --> 01:48:12

nobis did not know it was forbidden. That's why he was

01:48:12 --> 01:48:15

young, I guess when he was young when he was forbidden. He didn't

01:48:15 --> 01:48:18

know was forbidden. So he was teaching it. After the death of

01:48:18 --> 01:48:24

the prophets. I send them and his cousin said nadie is the one who

01:48:24 --> 01:48:27

told him no, the prophet forbade this. So he said, Okay, it's

01:48:27 --> 01:48:27

forbidden.

01:48:31 --> 01:48:35

Sophia says we're waiting for pictures on the revamp, okay. It's

01:48:35 --> 01:48:38

going to be maybe hopefully February.

01:48:41 --> 01:48:45

If Medicine says these are side effects, is this medicine or is it

01:48:45 --> 01:48:49

poison? Well, the side effect that's a good question. The side

01:48:49 --> 01:48:54

effects better be far less than the disease, right.

01:48:55 --> 01:48:57

Dr. Eddie's again, says What's your recommended way to recite

01:48:57 --> 01:49:01

duat? Joe, Shawn will Kebede? I'm not familiar with that. I know

01:49:01 --> 01:49:05

it's in the subcontinent one of the old out there. So I can't tell

01:49:05 --> 01:49:05

you.

01:49:06 --> 01:49:09

So if Antonia when is humbly Athena coming out, it's pretty

01:49:09 --> 01:49:12

much almost ready. He's just he said the Sheikh said I want to

01:49:12 --> 01:49:16

send you some more videos. So we're waiting on those mas que.

01:49:19 --> 01:49:22

Asking about the different calendars.

01:49:24 --> 01:49:27

I really don't know to be honest with you how they're using four

01:49:27 --> 01:49:29

different calendars. But all I can tell you is that the right way to

01:49:29 --> 01:49:34

practice is you pick a methodology you use your brain that Allah gave

01:49:34 --> 01:49:39

you to choose a method to choose an imam to choose a method that is

01:49:39 --> 01:49:42

most worthy of following and then you follow that to the tee unless

01:49:42 --> 01:49:43

there's a hardship

01:49:46 --> 01:49:50

is it okay to mix a rod from different tutup Yeah, unless

01:49:50 --> 01:49:53

you're committed to something there's no harm in that but if

01:49:53 --> 01:49:54

you're committed to something you should stick to it.

01:49:58 --> 01:49:59

If you're on a road trip and Salah has

01:50:00 --> 01:50:04

Come in. Is it better to do TM or wait until the next exit for will

01:50:04 --> 01:50:08

do? Okay, great question. And the answer is that you're in one of

01:50:08 --> 01:50:12

three states, if you don't have water, the state of knowing for

01:50:12 --> 01:50:15

sure that you will reach water. In that case, you're not allowed to

01:50:15 --> 01:50:22

make Tim the case of being 5050. In that case, you're not allowed

01:50:22 --> 01:50:25

to make Tamblyn the first half of the prayer time you're allowed to

01:50:25 --> 01:50:30

make TMO thereafter the third case you're pretty sure you're not

01:50:30 --> 01:50:34

going to get water in time. You can make Tamil from any time right

01:50:34 --> 01:50:35

away

01:50:40 --> 01:50:43

can we make up our own our rod for example? Yes, there's nothing

01:50:43 --> 01:50:47

wrong with that. But the best it's better to take the oath odds of

01:50:47 --> 01:50:49

the righteous scholars before us because their intentions were

01:50:49 --> 01:50:53

pure. They knew what they're putting in it. So I would rather

01:50:53 --> 01:50:58

for example, recite the word of Imam in Norway then the word of

01:50:59 --> 01:51:00

the local Imam

01:51:01 --> 01:51:06

Imam and no we he died he's accepted in the OMA we know this

01:51:06 --> 01:51:10

person is Mubarak and the Kaboul is all over him. So I will take

01:51:10 --> 01:51:13

his own rather than somebody else's right um, one of those

01:51:13 --> 01:51:17

somebody else's who was who am I? I don't I don't even know if I'm

01:51:17 --> 01:51:20

gonna die upon a slump that's the truth. I don't know if I'm gonna

01:51:20 --> 01:51:23

die upon the sooner I don't know if I'm gonna die upon piety We ask

01:51:23 --> 01:51:26

Allah to always let us live and die in the Ellison that will Gemma

01:51:27 --> 01:51:31

what taco well, they will do I will Kaboul we have to pray for

01:51:31 --> 01:51:36

that. So we are creation are creatures in the balance still?

01:51:36 --> 01:51:37

Right?

01:51:38 --> 01:51:42

Our good and bad is unknown. Those who passed away of the shield

01:51:44 --> 01:51:48

and centuries have passed and we're still honoring them. This is

01:51:48 --> 01:51:53

the site unlimited Kabuli Alright, let's take their own rod rather

01:51:53 --> 01:51:58

than our owns, okay, or you know, our own node. But if you were

01:51:58 --> 01:52:02

there's no harm and if someone says I made my own wood I know

01:52:02 --> 01:52:05

sir. We're just saying comparatively it means nothing

01:52:05 --> 01:52:09

comparatively it doesn't mean much right? But it's it's completely

01:52:09 --> 01:52:14

valid any your dot will be it's a bad so he had everything and I

01:52:14 --> 01:52:15

wrote my own dot

01:52:17 --> 01:52:21

write your own dot. We're talking about of God here, not personal

01:52:21 --> 01:52:24

joy. Of course personal joy is separate. Everyone has to do their

01:52:24 --> 01:52:26

own personal draw my life, my whatever.

01:52:28 --> 01:52:33

But if it's of God, let's begin with spirits and Facha then it

01:52:33 --> 01:52:37

will corsi then the last three days of spiritual Bacara. Then law

01:52:37 --> 01:52:43

as another Khurana then da endure, then has one alone mo keyed 100

01:52:43 --> 01:52:48

times then this. You can author what you want. Right? And Allah

01:52:48 --> 01:52:52

may accept it from YouTube. And who knows maybe you're also a

01:52:52 --> 01:52:55

remote arbiter maybe she's also going to be one of the Saudi hats.

01:52:56 --> 01:52:59

Right? And we're Jill Morabito becomes famous after that. You

01:52:59 --> 01:53:03

never know. You think Salah Hina is over or over with, like there's

01:53:03 --> 01:53:06

no sort of hint. Yes, Allah says in the end,

01:53:07 --> 01:53:12

Thriller terminal Olean, Waka De La Mina, Corinne. So there is

01:53:12 --> 01:53:14

Khalil in the end of time, but that doesn't mean there's none.

01:53:16 --> 01:53:19

If a person doesn't know how many salons they missed,

01:53:20 --> 01:53:24

so what do they do? What you're going to do is you're going to

01:53:24 --> 01:53:27

make an estimate that is for sure.

01:53:28 --> 01:53:31

encompassing what you missed. So if you're thinking, Okay, I don't

01:53:31 --> 01:53:35

know if it's three, four or four years. Well, what if I said four

01:53:35 --> 01:53:38

and a half? You said, Oh, definitely less than four and a

01:53:38 --> 01:53:40

half. So do that four and a half.

01:53:41 --> 01:53:45

Interstellar chocolate Wallace says most patient man ever if he

01:53:45 --> 01:53:47

waits his all his life to get married and doesn't consummate

01:53:47 --> 01:53:48

right away?

01:53:49 --> 01:53:53

Yes. This is about the one who doesn't consummate right after

01:53:54 --> 01:54:00

Reid says they can wait, though, to be intimate. Right? Like as

01:54:00 --> 01:54:03

long as it's discussed before marriage, it doesn't have to

01:54:03 --> 01:54:06

happen right away as long as it's not, like

01:54:07 --> 01:54:12

stipulated. And or that there is a reason for example, okay, let's

01:54:12 --> 01:54:16

get married. But I'm in pain right now. I just had surgery, I can't

01:54:16 --> 01:54:18

consummate this marriage, or

01:54:19 --> 01:54:23

she can't say I'm not comfortable with it yet. Then why did you get

01:54:23 --> 01:54:28

married? Right? Marriage? Is your consent to be intimate with

01:54:28 --> 01:54:28

somebody?

01:54:30 --> 01:54:33

Is there any value in consenting to something that you're actually

01:54:33 --> 01:54:33

not ready to do?

01:54:35 --> 01:54:35

Okay.

01:54:37 --> 01:54:43

The expectation is, the watch took an eternity, committed to zoologia

01:54:45 --> 01:54:45

if nataka

01:54:47 --> 01:54:50

right, I marry I've married you to my daughter. I have accepted that

01:54:50 --> 01:54:52

you're married to my daughter. Okay, I don't want to hear tech

01:54:52 --> 01:54:56

beers or anything. I take the daughter and we go home, right? I

01:54:56 --> 01:55:00

don't need two beers. I don't need almonds. I don't need sir but I

01:55:00 --> 01:55:03

Any day that take the bench and go straight home? Hmm, I don't think

01:55:03 --> 01:55:07

biryani No, I'm going straight to the hotel.

01:55:09 --> 01:55:12

That is the technical expectation of marriage. She should be more

01:55:12 --> 01:55:15

excited than you. Right? She should be as excited as the

01:55:15 --> 01:55:20

husband. It's like it's one way. But if she's mentally, emotionally

01:55:20 --> 01:55:21

physically not ready for that.

01:55:23 --> 01:55:26

Then what is the value of doing the cuts will be engaged? Right?

01:55:28 --> 01:55:31

If she has a reason, right? She says, No, I love you. I want to

01:55:31 --> 01:55:35

marry you. I'm just sick right now. Okay, that's fine. That's not

01:55:35 --> 01:55:37

a stipulation. That's a circumstance. No problem with

01:55:37 --> 01:55:37

that.

01:55:40 --> 01:55:41

Okay,

01:55:42 --> 01:55:44

one more other audio Allahu Anhu.

01:55:45 --> 01:55:47

And now Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said,

01:55:49 --> 01:55:53

aka big he will call Am I in the little handbook? Yes. Oh my god. I

01:55:53 --> 01:56:00

love you. For Karla will seek aim, though later than Nephi do booty

01:56:00 --> 01:56:05

Cooley Salatin Dakota, Allahu Piniella decreto Shoukry give me a

01:56:05 --> 01:56:10

bad stick. That is a comment from a talks which means that after

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every Salah you must say Aloma are highly suited to say highly

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recommend to some alumni now that the cricket show cricket hosting

01:56:17 --> 01:56:20

events to ask Allah to help us in dickered that means that dhikr has

01:56:20 --> 01:56:22

levels right?

01:56:23 --> 01:56:26

Like I have Allah Allah Allah Allah while we're chatting is very

01:56:26 --> 01:56:30

different than I'm going to excuse myself. I'm going to shut my phone

01:56:30 --> 01:56:35

off and I'm gonna go do a bed. There's levels right? With the

01:56:35 --> 01:56:38

cricket we're sure cricket There's levels of Shaka Shaka that

01:56:38 --> 01:56:41

hamdulillah Allah gave me this and I'm not going to use it for haram

01:56:41 --> 01:56:44

koalas you you're at the ground floor of sugar but Allah gave me

01:56:44 --> 01:56:47

this I'm not going to use it for haram but many other people need

01:56:47 --> 01:56:53

help I'm going to spend a lot 50% to help others. Others spend 90%

01:56:53 --> 01:56:56

to help others different levels of sugar we're hosting a bad it's

01:56:57 --> 01:56:58

a bad is levels to

01:57:00 --> 01:57:04

someone who prays chef and witch and goes to bed I know son, masha

01:57:04 --> 01:57:07

Allah, He fulfilled the Sunnah, but someone who prays tahajjud

01:57:08 --> 01:57:09

better

01:57:13 --> 01:57:16

mas que is asking did you manage to find out why the Hanafi is

01:57:16 --> 01:57:22

don't let the wife wash the husband when he passed away? No, I

01:57:22 --> 01:57:23

didn't find out yet. Can you ask?

01:57:27 --> 01:57:31

Is the onset of hade considered the point when prayers should

01:57:31 --> 01:57:35

start counting? Yes, that's correct. Now puberty is not

01:57:35 --> 01:57:38

defined from the age of seven. Puberty is defined when a woman

01:57:38 --> 01:57:43

has hide or a Man Boy releases * whether it's a * or

01:57:43 --> 01:57:45

otherwise, if he can release *

01:57:46 --> 01:57:49

prayers all of the should he has no binding upon him

01:57:52 --> 01:57:55

depending of the voice in the absence of *

01:57:58 --> 01:58:00

not really know

01:58:03 --> 01:58:06

well, when it comes to shake Hold on, you never know how many books

01:58:06 --> 01:58:08

he's citing from so don't

01:58:09 --> 01:58:10

discount it.

01:58:13 --> 01:58:15

When I studied this with Sheikh Mahmoud he listed a lot of things.

01:58:17 --> 01:58:22

The hair under the arms the hair in better shot, better shot I

01:58:22 --> 01:58:23

think is it M dash it right.

01:58:25 --> 01:58:29

As a lay man says turquoise can I make Tao a copy with Islam? Yes, a

01:58:29 --> 01:58:31

lay man does not need

01:58:32 --> 01:58:39

permission before teaching at my Lumina Dean bedarra a lay man, a

01:58:39 --> 01:58:42

common man does not need permission to say alcohol is

01:58:42 --> 01:58:46

haram. Salah is five times a day Mohammed is alas messenger of

01:58:46 --> 01:58:51

Allah. These are cut the yet whatsoever to rot. My alumina Dean

01:58:51 --> 01:58:54

bedarra. The layman does not need

01:58:55 --> 01:59:00

to too, to ask permission for that or take a course the methodology

01:59:00 --> 01:59:06

and the wisdom maybe. But you know that that's what the dean is in

01:59:06 --> 01:59:09

the medical field because gelatin Hedda there's a discussion on it.

01:59:09 --> 01:59:11

I can't give you the code and frustrate here.

01:59:13 --> 01:59:15

All right. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we have a lot of

01:59:15 --> 01:59:17

questions, unfortunately, that we couldn't get to.

01:59:19 --> 01:59:23

Okay, I'll take one more from Joanna s. I'm in my plane. How do

01:59:23 --> 01:59:27

I know how to pray? You have to look out the window.

01:59:28 --> 01:59:30

Okay, you have to look out the window.

01:59:32 --> 01:59:35

And you have to judge the prayer time that you are in right now.

01:59:35 --> 01:59:40

And the only hard prayer to catch is federal as such because you

01:59:40 --> 01:59:43

have to catch it when the sun light is up but the sun is not up.

01:59:44 --> 01:59:48

So beyond that the nighttime prayer is easy. And the daytime

01:59:48 --> 01:59:48

prayer is easy.

01:59:50 --> 01:59:53

Go to Korea that was stuck for a Lalibela calm what he said in

01:59:53 --> 01:59:57

Muslimeen when Muslim at Subhanak Allahu Morbihan Dek a shadow in La

01:59:57 --> 01:59:59

ilaha illa Anta a sufferer connected

02:00:00 --> 02:00:03

Lakewood also didn't end in Santa Fe Of course. It'll Alladhina

02:00:03 --> 02:00:08

amanu Minnesota to Ottawa so we'll have whatsover southern was set up

02:00:34 --> 02:00:34

job

02:00:51 --> 02:00:51

God

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