Shadee Elmasry – NBF 161 Professor Fired for Paintings of the Prophet
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A lecture
miskeen Adjunct Professor shows a painting of the Prophet Mohammed
she lost her job. Hamline University you never even heard of
the joint. Okay, you've never even heard of this place.
She's a poor old girl. She's not old. I'm saying she's just a poor
Adjunct Professor Erica Lopez predator, an adjunct professor at
Hamline University, I've done these jobs. I was one of these
adjuncts before
you get the job, they look at your resume, you know how to you stand
on two feet, you know how to read. They give you the job.
You got eyes you got a degree of some sort. They just throw you the
interest. They don't even give you the syllabus. This is your class
go to room see 35 in Baker's Hall, teach these kids you go in you
teach you give the exams you submit the grades on a computer,
you meet with the chair of the department once
a semester.
It's this is a very bottom have to work in a high school is more
serious than to be an adjunct professor, trust me. Nobody cares.
The students don't care. The head of the department is just happy to
fill in this class. Right?
Whether you come you leave no one cares. That's not the point. The
point here though, is that this teacher, this is not a place to
have an agenda number one.
Students aren't even paying attention.
This teacher it has come across us is just that she's showing
pictures of ancient Persia. Ancient meaning like 1000 years
ago, maybe 800 years ago, not ancient ancient.
One of these pictures was the prophet Mohammed, a depiction of
the Prophet in her global art class, which she's showing as a
representation of what they were painting in Persia at the time
now. For us is haram. Right. But from from the perspective of
desecration, is she trying to defame Is she trying to insult Is
she trying to offend? No, she's not. She's literally doing a
survey class here. Right? It's a survey class. And this picture.
When you take these classes, the picture shows up for like five
minutes on an overhead or maybe they have a smartboard and that's
it. Move on to the next subject
to survey
this is a secular university right Hamline University. This is not
Hamline Sharia University. This is just Hamline University.
You're you sign
Up to go to a secular university. So she's treating this with
respect. Okay? It's not according to our shitty It's haram to do
this in our Sharia. But what happens is that apparently some
Muslim students which we're going to read here,
they got the woke bug and they went all woke on this lady using
Islam as this is like
a minority, we're a minority, we're being offended. Okay. Now
did anyone raise their hand and say, Hey, I'm offended that or
what is I'm offended?
This is haram. Right? It's not like offensive in the sense of
like you, you showed a picture of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa
salam, like the Charlie Hebdo deformed in a way that's like
ugly. That way you could say offensive. How is those Persian
pictures are trying to elevate the profit. Of course, it's not on
what they're doing. But they're not. They're definitely trying to
elevate the messenger peace be upon them in their painting.
They're definitely not trying to offend you.
So to say that it's offensive is a little bit of a stretch. Erica
Lopez, an adjunct professor at Hamline University, we're reading
here from the New York Times
said she knew many Muslims have deeply religious, deeply held
religious beliefs that prohibit depictions of the Prophet. So she
took many precautions before showing this one painting. In the
syllabus, she warned the images of holy figures, such as Prophet
Muhammad and Buddha would be shown in the course
drawn by people seeking to honor those people.
She disclosed it in advance.
You took the course?
I want to take a culinary course. Hey, Ahmad is that you? Listen to
this. You hear what we're talking about? Okay.
You take a culinary course, right? The culinary Course tells you
you're going to be cooking pork. You get to the culinary course.
And they teach you pork and they teach you how to cook pork. Do you
then come in and claim this is an Islamophobic course.
And they're trying to insult us by feeding us pork. You have no
claim, right?
That's what I'm saying. Not everything that just because like
we have this minority status, we're gonna jump on it and go work
on these people. So she warned on, she warned them.
She said ask students contact me with any concerns. Now let's say
there's 10 Muslims in the course.
Hey, I know that you're not trying to disrespect us, but we just have
to say this is like something forbidden in our course. In our
religion, we're just gonna sit out that day.
That's it maximum, right.
Remember, it's a secular school. So it's not like she's not bound
by halal and haram. She's bound according to secular law, common
sensical law, not to offend the other people don't offend your
students, right. There's people to tuition paying students, right.
Okay.
Nobody responded. Nobody said anything. We need to get you a
back checks. If you you want you might sit here you want to sit
there. You're more comfortable. That way I don't have to keep
craning my neck.
Yeah.
Just get it back Jack or get a *
there's a back Jack. There's a * there's everything. Good.
Ahmad is here from Texas. Visiting. Ahmad is one of these
genius mathematicians. There's like one grade and in any of these
guys that crop up, the IQ level was very high. I don't know what
was going on the baby formula of that generation, like Othman
Kadeem, you yawn. That whole course you're like, what when
you're older than those guys, us, okay. Anyway, nobody raised their
hand. Nobody emailed her. Now in class. She took another precaution
she prepped the students saying in a few minutes, we will display it.
I can't believe she did this. We will display what may be offensive
to some students. So anyone may leave and you will not lose
credit. Trigger warning. I can't believe she did it. She did it in
the in the syllabus. She does it the day of the class. And no one
will lose credit. As they listen now I'm not up for this is against
my religion. I'm not partaking in this. She's basically opening the
door for you. And she's saying you will not lose credit in the class.
I wish I could, you know, this type of person
is somebody who is not trying to offend you. She's not showing
Charlie Hebdo pictures. She's just showing these paintings right
which Muslims made now she doesn't care if you're Sunni or Shiite.
There she is probably who made these paintings. But she's like
okay, these
People try it on. It's an anthropologist like a global
course she doesn't care about your theology. Her she is bound by
respect. All right. Then Miss Dr. Lopez showed the image. And that
began to her losing her teaching gig. Okay?
Officials at Hamline, a small private university in St. Paul
Minneapolis.
How many students 1800 students in the whole university? How's this
in university? It's a homeschool, right? High School.
High schools all have more people than this, right?
And what we're gonna about to see is the administration completely
buckling to the woke agenda. Not everything that says Islamophobia
is has to do with Islam, I'm sorry. It has nothing to do with
Islam, what they're about to do here. This is woke ism, using
Islam as a token.
sheath, they tried to douse what they feared would become a runaway
fire. Instead, they ended up with what they had tried to avoid.
That's exactly what happens when you try to run away from a
controversy you create it. But if you face it head on and say, Hey,
no, we were being totally respectful. You don't like this
painting? Go talk to your person, Muslims who made it? They're the
ones who made it. Right? Go talk to your own people fix your own
house first. We're being respectful. We're not showing you
what a Catherine made about a Muslim. We're showing you what a
Muslim made about a Muslim, right?
So they tried to run away and that's the thing when they woke
come when the woke mob comes you cannot bend. Not you cannot see
one centimeter. If you see it one centimeter you're done with and
the world that I live in, I want to even not even be in the same
zip code as them.
Like I want. I've been telling them. I'm not
like,
I'm not your friend. From a long time ago. I've been pushing them
back. Right? From a long time from 2012. When I first started, I knew
this trend was coming because I saw it in California. I saw all
these lives. There wasn't such a word called woke anyway, it was
just like, like liberal types, progressive liberal surrounding,
out in California surrounding the dudes out in California, right?
And I'm like, No, this is no good. You're inviting them. But they're
not coming and submitting to Islam as it is they're coming with their
own expectations. And I'm like, God, this is dangerous. Because
once they're in your circle, and you have to try to please them.
You can't you have to keep bending the rules. So the best thing is
keep them at bay in the first place. Because they're entitled
group. They're going to come with their own demands. So I was like
to keep them at bay. Every. It used to be a lot more, but then it
became just once a month. Even law was like less than that. Throw
grenade over there. Right, something that, you know, they're
going to despise you for, and they will come near you. Right. And
that's how I think it's we it's a protection.
Next,
they ended up with what they tried to avoid, which pitted advocates
of academic liberty and free speech against Muslims who believe
showing the image of the Prophet Muhammad is always sacrilegious.
No, that's not the controversy. I'm sorry to tell you. That is not
the controversy. I believe it's sacrilegious. All of us believe
it's haram. But we also know the rules of secular universities.
And we're not going to try to impinge that upon them. When
they're being respectful. Right?
You're being respectful. You're not showing some insulting image?
Yes, you're showing a haram image. Wait a second. aren't half your
liberal arts courses also haram to us? Right? Don't you have atheism
being spoken in some of these courses?
So where do you draw the line? We're going to come on this
painting this Persian image and that's what offends us. What about
all the atheism taught in the courses? Right? What about all the
secular ethics being taught in all the other courses?
So when you're dealing with a secular university, and you're
signing up to a secular university, you have expectations?
Or if you don't like it, which I don't, don't sign up, don't go to
the school, take the science classes, take the tech classes.
Don't take the liberal arts classes.
Okay, so this is a wrong framing. It's not about that. It's about
this is in my view, as I did read the blurb that one of the students
put out.
This is using Islam
as a woke
token,
after Dr. Lopez Prater showed the image, a senior in the class
complained to the administration we'd say she told you in the
syllabus, she
said it in class, you're a hypocrite. Why didn't you get up?
Why didn't you contact her?
Because I bear guarantee you won't even you didn't read the syllabus.
Right? And you probably didn't need your senior taken an art
class. What does that mean? That means I just got some credits to
finish. Right? This is this is a one on one art class like a survey
class, who takes the survey class as a senior.
Right? Yeah, that's all it is.
Okay. Other Muslim students not in the course, supported the
students? Hey, a party, let's burn someone's life down and take him
down. Okay, so you out there in Hamlin University, the Tacoma has
reached such a level
Colosse, right, that you cannot even bear the Messenger of Allah
sigh send them. It's not like we're bearing it. We're accepting
it. Right. But hulless they reached a level. This is an attack
on our faith. This is nonsense. colorless. Yes. So all the atheism
being spouted is not an attack on your face, faith, all the other
stuff that actually has an impact on people.
In fact, some of these Persian paintings
I think we've all seen some of them. Sometimes they put a flame.
Sometimes, it's the Prophet sometimes you don't even know what
it is, right? Someone may look at that and say, Wow, this is
beautiful, actually beautiful religion. They produce beautiful
stuff. I'd never would imagine anyone's going to look at these
Persian paintings and say, What a terrible religion. Right? Horrible
religion. No one's gonna say that these paintings are actually
really nice.
Right? Leave aside the part that's haram.
Obviously, that's never going to be nice to us whenever he
described it that way. But overall, there's, it's an painting
that elevates your civilization aside the part that's forbidden,
obviously.
So they all demanded that officials take action. Okay, this
class is an attack on your religion. If it's an attack on
your religion, why did she put it in the syllabus? Why did she tell
you if you want to leave? So, officials now
they come in, they go over the department chair who approved all
this and helped her walk it through so we don't offend these
Muslim students. Right? I want you guys. You know, these ratty kids
go live in Paris for half a day. They could care less about you and
your religion. They will show you the Charlie Hebdo photos in public
school. Forget University, right. And they will jam it down your
throats here you have some event Jellicle some Christian divino.
Minneapolis is a big Christian state tiptoeing. By the way, if
you're not comfortable, you can sit there no problem. They're
tiptoeing around you. And you still do this. Right? You are
clueless. Okay.
I just can't I just don't know where it's stopping. Where's it
going to stop? The idea of students getting professors fired
over something that they did that was that was by the rules of the
administration forget this issue of religion right now. They follow
the rules of the administration. There. We talked about that
chemistry professor from I think it was NYU or Columbia. That guy
has been given the same course the same quizzes, the same exams for
30 years. And because you got some Week, a week generation, maybe in
COVID, they go out and study biology well enough.
They get into his course and they flunk out, which means to never
going to become doctors. They petitioned and they got him fired,
that the course is too hard. He's acquitted, guys, I've been given
the same exact course for 30 years. Right? They got him fired.
So where are we stopping here? Throw perspective. Go ahead. So I
remember when I was in community college, and basically I forget if
I wasn't, I think I was like, just became a Muslim. And I was taking
world religions class. And the teacher got to the Islamic the
Islam section, where now we're online because of COVID. We had
taken like Taoism, we're taking Buddhism, we took Hinduism,
all in person, but Islam, Judaism and Christianity we took online,
and basically he gave us a quiz on Islam. And one of the questions on
the quiz was which one?
Which one is allowed in Islam, and it was like, eating pork, like
cursing your parents believing into Gods or beating your wife, or
email the guy? That's a guy trying to insult I know, I emailed me, I
emailed him, you know, and he was like, I forget having to download
watch this out of my mind. I don't even remember what happened with
it. But then it makes me think of this because I
If these kids didn't do that, it's also wrong if they didn't feel
some type of way about it. Yeah. So it's like, it's a little
extreme if they do get the person fired, but it's also problematic
if they don't do anything to. It's tough. Exactly. They, she's
telling you, this is what we're showing. This is according to the
rules of this university. Okay? And she's saying, if you want to
take my class, this is what's going to happen. If you have
issues with it. Come talk to me. What does that mean? That means
she might negotiate. She might, you might get her to decrease
this, this painting. And so something else, you might get her,
she may stick to her guns.
At least you said something, then you walk out of the class. Yeah.
That guy is a doofus. He's trying to find my emails with them. That
guy, you know, we're not supposed to espouse violence, but if
someone was to go, and so since you're okay, you know, trying to
find us we're going to, we'll beat you to write since this is what
you're all about. Right? We'll meet you and see what happens,
right? Because the idea of a reaction is good. I like the
reaction and a strong reaction. But it has to be in the right
place. You don't pick on somebody, to me, this is a small fry. The
whole university is a small fry. Right? 1800 students, what 200
People run in the school in the middle of nowhere, they don't even
get sunlight out there, right? middle of nowhere, Minneapolis.
And that's what you're going to. That's not where the energy should
go. There is a lot worse happening in the world that deserves a lot
more. I sympathize with these kids, though. Because like, the
it's such a fine line between being too sharp as a religion and
everything that people are just like, Oh, these Muslims, they're
too far off. Yeah, I can never accept this. And also being too
loose, where we're not even respecting our own tradition.
Exactly. So like, it's tough this day, they there's a couple of
things. They didn't follow the protocol that they were given.
Yeah, then you went like a snake and a weasel and a rat around the
back and made a media firestorm.
Whereas we say in our religion, enter doors from their enter homes
from their doors, be straight, look me in the eye and tell me
what's going on. Right? That's our religion, not to become a weasel
like this. So it's the Weasley Enos that bothers me. And it's the
upfront pneus of the professor that I respect. Okay. And it's on
top of that,
on this on the sense that we have to be religion that steps up, you
have to be smart to you do this. Now you have inspired a whole set
of her colleagues and peers in the art fields, to now actually show
worse things just to spite these kids. We are also aren't we
commanded do not curse foreign gods idols so that they don't
curse Allah. So are we commanded in the shittier in the Quran, to
be mindful of reactions, that I may take a hesitant approach to a
blasphemy
because in my estimation,
poking that bear is actually going to cause something worse. This, in
my opinion is not a fight that had should have happened in this way
could have happened another way.
But I guarantee what it's going to result in is every art professor
who has any atheistic view, or what Christian view is going to
now start showing Charlie Hebdo pictures, and how are you going to
stop that? Okay.
Officials then got involved, they told Miss Lopez, your services
next semester are no longer needed.
emails were sent to student and faculty saying the incident is
Islamophobic. So the other thing that bothers me here is the
spinelessness of the administration. This at this
point, we're not even talking about dean here. This is just
character. This This administration has zero character,
they have their complete bucklers that's why you no offense or
anything, that's why you're admitted Hamlin, not
a you miniature or some real school, right? No offense or
anything, but you have no character. Okay, not to offend
this, but you could be at a small time school and have great
character. But you have no character in my opinion. You can't
withstand the pressure. hemlines. President, finis Miller cosines an
email that said respect for Muslim students should have superseded
academic freedom. Okay, I love that. I love that. Why could but
it had to have done right been done right? And this is not the
right way to do it. You're doing this as a fear response. So to me
that doesn't go right. It's a fear response. It's one of those might
tails or between my legs emails. They did a town hall. They invited
a Muslim speaker alright compared showing the images to teaching
that Hitler was good.
What
At, firstly, why would you put Mohammed and Hitler in the same
sentence in the first place?
Think about that. Why would you put that in the same sentence? Do
you know anything about psychology and persuasion? You're you're
linking the two in the same set. Now Hitler's in this article,
forget good or bad, he's in it.
Who is this the speaker? It's not even close to that. Just say yes,
some people devoted themselves to Islam. By drawing the Prophet This
is forbidden. We would love for you to respect we understand it's
a secular school, maybe a Christian school. It'd be nice for
you to respect this part of our faith. Right. And Muslims who come
and deal with people should also think about the reaction of that
person. Because we're here not just to establish what's right and
wrong in our religion. We're here also to win over people.
Isn't that when we were doing the live stream, the screen sided
podcast. We were all in and we were hurling haymakers at the
liberals. At some point, I realized is our is our goal.
What's so funny, right?
Yeah, is our goal to smash these types of liberal Muslims, or to
change their minds?
The enemies like the Zionist those people who are truly oppressing
you, your job is to smash them. You're not changing their mind,
you have to stop them first. But when we're talking about the
lukewarm type of Muslim that's a little bit on the side. Do we want
to scare them off and crush them? Or do you want to win them over?
First of all, the human beings just like you, they may have
limitations may have made mistakes, whatever. So your job is
actually to win people over not to smash them. We have to keep that
in mind when we deal with these people who are there as a core
ANSYS laser.
Laser so up, not all disbelievers are against you. They're not all
the same. Some of them may not know better, maybe that's their
belief, but they're trying to be respectful like this lady here.
Other of them, they're out to insult you. Okay, lasers, so the
treatment cannot be the same. Okay.
Now, guess what happened? The response free speech supporters
have now started their own campaign. And Islamic art
historian wrote an essay defending Dr. Lopez, demanding the
university's Board investigate the matter. It had more than 2800
signatures free speech. See this Wednesday. You're now going to
have cartoons of the Prophet everywhere now. You gotta go
sensitively with this because this to me, is an oppression. It's an
oppression you oppressed this lady. Other people they have done
far worse in their cartoons and far worse response. I'm happy to
see it. Right. It's not oppression. This guy was trying to
insult your profit whatever he gets he gets at that point.
For free speech groups and publications issued blistering
critiques. Penn America called it one of the most egregious
violations of academic freedom in recent memory, a bit of a stretch.
A bit of a stretch, I probably would say that the biochem
whatever professor from NYU was worse.
The Muslims themselves debated whether the action was
Islamophobic.
Arguments over academic freedom have been fought on campuses for
years, but they can be especially fraught at small private colleges
like Hamline, which are facing shrinking enrollment and growing
financial pressures. To attract applicants, they diversified their
curriculum tried to be more welcoming to students who have
been historically shut out of higher education. Meanwhile,
professors everywhere often face pushback for their academic
decisions from activist students and conservative lawmakers. If I
ran a college activism would be not allowed on my campus. Go to
class, go home, old school, go go to class. What activism? Why do
you need a student club for the environment? Why do you need
because if he opened for the environment have to open for
everything? No student clubs, right? You want to do a student
club for a hobby.
For a hobby, right for to get a job or whatever to help you get
jobs blah, blah, blah. Not no activism here.
Dr. Lopez, her stitch print Dr. Lopez prayed her situation was
especially precarious. She's an adjunct. Now she's on
unemployment, one of higher education underclass of teachers
see what I told you, the underclass, the rubbish of the
teaching class. They work for very little pay, receiving few of the
workplace protections few zero workplace protections. I don't
even think you got a contract. You get a statement of employment. You
know the difference. A contract gives you rights statement of
employment says
We are hiring you and we will pay you $2,500 You're not signing
anything.
There was a guy, I'm not gonna mention his name, he opened up an
Islamic school. Scott was a shrewd businessman, you have millions of
dollars. So he opens up an Islamic school, he hires all the teachers.
He announces one day, the numbers aren't cutting it, we're cutting
all your pay by 25%. They flipped out they said we have a contract
is not a contract. It's a statement of employment. Right?
Just no contract or you have no rights. I trust me, I sympathize
with this because I did this for about a couple years until I
finally got full time. Right. And I did this for a couple years in
misery. In misery, not only misery to me, misery to the students to
be I'm in a bad mood. I don't care what you have to say, I have no
office hours, I have office hours listed on the paper. But I'm not
coming, right.
I'm not taking the things as seriously as I could, because I'm
exhausted, teach upstair up an hour.
North, then I have to go an hour south, then I gotta go back
another hour north. Or on Wednesdays, I go in our north, I
go an hour south. I go another ourself three colleges, right?
Who has time to prepare and to really care, right? I know, I
know, I know, this stuff. I lecture from my mind. Right? I
don't give out homework because I'm not checking it. And when I
was forced to give out homework, or part of my other job was to
check the homework of the full time professors, I would literally
have a pile this big, I go down to my little, it was like a garage
basement was an office behind the garage, have all my papers there.
And I would have a lecture or some Quran or something that I would be
listening to. And I agreed all the way from like 9pm by by 1030. I'm
like doing this by 1030. If there's Arabic on the page, um,
check, check, check, check, check. If there's Arabic on the page,
you're too exhausted. That's how you do to make ends meet. Right.
And so when they're saying they're, they're there, they got
this lady fired. They really don't know what they've done. They work
for little pay, they have no protections. Okay.
They're oppressing someone who's taken the scraps. Okay.
Yeah, kind of realize how like self consumptive like self
destructive self consumptive this entire liberalism philosophy is
here. Right? At the end of the day, your goal is to liberate the
oppressed. What are you going you're the biggest oppressor
you're the biggest oppressor you go after someone who has little to
no pain, no proper contract, you turn out you are just like the
Marxist. Now. The car, the Marxist and the communists, they went out
for the little guy, right? Because they could hear
their claim is that we're gonna hear for the little guy. They
become the biggest killers, right?
After
what was the second generation Stalin? Stalin is what the third
leader right, who was the first one?
Lenin started with Lenin, right? Lenin, then who, then someone
else, then Stalin? The guy is the biggest killer of all people. He's
the most feared, dude. And so, you start you come off to liberate,
but your beliefs
are limited. They're not right. Okay, so the only way and they're
subjective. The only way to actually do to establish this is
by force. And that's why every ideology,
every speculative ideology, that require that does not touch the
heart. That is totally materialistic. Its justice in a
materialistic manner, must be established by force. You go to
Christianity, Judaism, Islam, even Buddhism, let's say even Hinduism.
These are things that appeal to your heart.
And by appealing to your heart, you do by yourself. So all you
need is people to preach the message. And pretty much most of
the people they'll either do it by themselves.
Africans tells us that there was no one in between only a dispute
with Trotsky who didn't really have a strong claim. So there you
go. The second generation you became the biggest killers, right?
So these woke this woke mob
they're claiming
to be these good doors. Everyone's walking around scared of you and
wants you to be finished. She did actually she followed like every
single rule in the live everything. Yes. A trigger
warning. Yeah, the very beginning of the semester written a written
warning with the with a chance for you to talk call me Come talk to
me. There's consequences if you don't participate in this. Before
the images were displayed. She gave a trigger warning. She said
anyone who wants to step out can step out over here. Yeah, she
played it by
By the Book, meaning if you follow their rules Yeah, she follows the
liberal rulebook to the to the liberal rulebook, she ends up
losing. Unbelievable. How was I was that fair? And there? Oh,
yeah. And she, she did this with the approval of her boss. So from
an input from an HR standpoint, how am I getting fired? My boss
approved this. Why am I getting fired? Is my boss getting fired?
How is this fair? Like from an HR perspective, she could sue? Well,
she can't sue because adjuncts have no,
they have no right. She just told to finish out the semester and
goodbye to you. Even though she followed the rules. Yeah, she
followed the rules. She bought the book. So
it's a mob associated with it's a complete mob. Now university
officials and administrators who are in my book, weasels, scared
people who have no character, no principle. They all declined
interviews. Why? Because you're, you know, you're wrong. That's
why. But Dr. Miller, the school's president defended the decision in
a statement to look upon an image of the Prophet Muhammad for many
Muslims is against their faith. A wonderful statement said with the
wrong impetus, there is we have in Islam, the concept of Kenya to
hack UI button, there is the correct statement, okay. But in
the wrong context, in the wrong context, like for example, if I go
in, and, and I start charging the jizya, to my neighbors here to the
tenants, and I said, You are now in a Muslim home, right? So you're
in a Muslim property, and from here on, you are going to pay me
$750 A year as it Jersey attacks. Then the state arrests me, right
for this mistreating the tenants? And I say,
No, the Sharia has to be defended, right? We should uphold the
shittier shit, though that's a correct statement in a wrong
place. So wonderful. I'm glad he said this. I'm happy he said that.
But the whole impetus of the thing is to me is wrong.
It was important that our Muslim students as well as other students
feel safe. Now don't use this language. Please. Please do not
use this language. Right.
Don't use this language, safe, supported, respected. Why don't we
give them hugs and hold them like this at lunchtime to take a nap?
Right? Oh, my goodness, the coddling of this generation is so
ridiculous. They really should go spend a semester in Europe where
they could care less how you feel about your Islam. Right? They
will.
I mean, this is good. But the whole ethos behind it I'm against,
right. I'm against this whole ethos. Yeah.
In a December interview with the school paper, the student who
complained to the administration, autumn weather Tala,
you Iran. Now, RM era Melenchon amedd. Which What is this
described being blindsided by the image because you didn't read?
Because you didn't read? She told you in the syllabus? I'm like,
This can't be real. What do you mean, this can't be real?
Don't you have What world are you living in? This can't be real.
Have you seen things Number? 110 times worse. If you know anything
about Islamic images, Islamic art and architecture. It's all over
the place. Let me It's haram but it's all over the place.
She says she's Sudanese. As a Muslim and a black person. I don't
feel like I belong.
I don't feel I don't think I'll ever belong in a community. This
language, I cannot stand this language. I can't stand this,
this, the negativity of this that this generation has been taught to
be so negative about everything. Just everything must be viewed
from a lens, put this lens on. It's called the lens of
negativity. I don't belong. I don't feel safe. I don't this
you're going to create that. Because you keep
speaking about that.
Okay, I don't think I'll ever belong in a community where they
don't value me as a member. And show me the respect. Wait a
second. She showed you respect. She told you in advance. Come talk
to me. If you have an issue with this. You did you talk to her.
Todd Greene, who has written books about sama phobia said the
conflict at Hamline was tragic because administrators pitted
natural allies, those concerned about stereotypes of Muslims and
Islam against one another. The administration he said closed down
conversation when they should have opened it up.
The painting shown and Dr. Lopez's class is in. You know, it's so
terrible when people go around authority. And our religion says
go through the homes through the go enter home
through their doors, I would say I'm a dean. Okay, wait a second to
just talk to the professor. There was an amazing Joe Torre, one of
the best managers, at least for the Yankees. Right?
One of the reasons he succeeded, he cleaned up this nonsense
wherever he went, right? This backdoor nonsense. So he goes one
time to a pitcher, who's not pitching that well.
And he's like, what's going on? And you know, when they do it,
they walk to the mound and talk to the pitcher. Right? He walks to
the mound, and he talks to the pitcher and the pitcher goes on,
man, this catcher, talking about the catcher. He's like the calls.
He's making these guys. It's hard. He's horrible. He's terrible. He
said, Okay. Catch her. Come. Say what you just said. No, no,
everything's good. Everything's fine. Okay, so what she did you
take out all this, Weasley Enos. That's what it is. It's Weasley
Enos going on? Hey, you're coming to me the dean, did you talk to
your preferred professor? Did you talk to the chair head of the
department? Well, you come to the dean for right, go and look your
professor in the eye and talk.
If you don't know how to talk, we'll teach you how to talk.
Right?
All right, the painting is in an early Islamic illustration history
called the compendium of Chronicles, written by Rashida
Dean written during the 14th century by Rashid a dean. Okay,
that's his first name. Where's his last name? It from 12 He lived
from 1247 to 1318. Hey, right. Could you pull him up? Is that
let's see who he is. Shown regularly in art classes. The
painting shows a winged and crowned Angel Djibouti.
Look up the guide not the painting.
Maybe it is. But it shows a winged and crowned Angel Gabriel,
pointing at the Prophet delivering to him the first Quranic
revelation. This is this is from the era where the angels look
Mongol. Everyone is Mongol. Right? Because those are that's the
dominant image at the time. If you look at all those paintings,
everyone looks like a Mongol. Right? What's his name? But also
did Dean what? Yeah, get his biography. Just curious.
The image is a masterpiece of Persian manuscript painting.
says a professor of Islamic art at UMich. It is housed this painting
is housed at the University of Edinburgh. Similar paintings are
on display at the Met. And a sculpture of the Prophet is that
the Supreme Court
Dr. Gruber said that showing Islamic art depict and depictions
of the Prophet Muhammad have become more common in academia
because of a push to decolonize the canon that is expand
curriculum bump beyond a western model. Dr. Gruber who
Hamadan eonni she but let's read it anyway, just tell us he's a
statesman, a historian, a physicist of the elcon its empire
of Iran. He was born into a Persian Jewish family from Iran,
he converted to Islam at the age of 30.
With the elcon Zhan later, he commissioned by his king to right
Joab. Jemma Tillery. All right, so he this is part of the Mongol
Empire. Whatever the guys just looks like he's a courtier, keep
going. What is this?
After being charged with poisoning the king, he was executed, and
he's a complete political guy, right? He's has nothing to do with
anything. He's a public off. He's a prolific author. Okay, blah,
blah, blah, biography significance. They don't even tell
us anything about his theological. He's not theological. The guy's a
complete, you know, political guy, right? He's a Muslim is a
political guy, right? There's nothing much they're
not like he's trying to make a point. And he apparently he had
some painter, paint that in his book.
In the Islamic world, it's not like you had religious people
walking around. You had regular guys, right? Not to say that
that's okay. But you had in the Islamic world, people just that
we're not religious people, but we're Muslim and they loved Islam
and they loved you know, their country.
So Dr. Gruber rewrote this essay, new line magazine defending Dr.
Lopez and he said that studying Islamic art without Compendium
without the compendium of Chronicles would be like not
teaching Michelangelo's David.
Okay. Oh, Christiane guber. Sorry, not Christian. Yet most Muslims
believe that visual representation of Muhammad should not be viewed
even if the Quran does not explicitly prohibit them. The
prohibition stems from the belief that an image of the Prophet
Muhammad could lead to worshiping the Prophet rather than God, the
God he served. I don't know if that's what it is because you
could never do just
is to it. That's really more of the reason and maybe some of that
other one, that it would lead eventually to iconic, you know the
icons etc.
There are, however a range of beliefs. Some Muslims distinguish
between respectful depictions and mocking caricatures, while others
do not subscribe to the restriction at all I do differ
between respect to images and mocking characters in how I would
treat that person. Right? How I would treat this person. They're
too lazy so they cannot be even, they're not the same one deserves
whatever they get. Literally, whatever they get, the other one
deserves to be told in a in a decent way. Right, that it's not
right.
Omid Safi.
A professor of Asian and Middle Eastern Studies at Duke said he
regularly shows the image of the Prophet in class. Without Dr.
Lopez pratos upped up mechanisms.
He explains his student these images were works of devotion
created by pious artists at the behest of devout rulers. That's
the part I want my students to grapple with. Dr. Safi said, How
does something that comes from the very middle of the tradition end
up being received later on as something marginal or forbidden?
Well, because the middle of the tradition is not where the law is
made, right? The law is established well earlier, and
people in the middle of the tradition can do things that are
wrong, right? So first thing is that just because something
respectful does not mean it's high, that just because something
is done with a good intention does not mean it's
the good intention is needed for acceptability, but from from from
Allah. But also, you got to, we follow the book, we go by the
book, if the book says
something is forbidden, your intention does not change that.
Nobody had a good intention. Okay, maybe that means he'll get
forgiveness faster. Right. That's what we say. When he gets he can
get forgiveness faster if you have a good intention. But doesn't make
it lawful. Your intent has literally nothing to do with what
is right and what is wrong in Islam.
Okay, it does have to do with the weight of your mistake. You in
unintentionally killed someone you're still paying deer murder
still, it's still killing it. But you're paying deer.
An academic perspective, by the way, yeah, he's like trying to pit
two ideas against each other. Yeah, show some apparent
contradiction. Exactly. So I challenge you to try to take these
two ideas work together to try to show that the fuck, they may not
know what they're doing, or they're just speculative, or
they're just reactionary or something like that. You read a
biography realize he's not like an Islamic scholar. Yeah, just a
random dude that was assigned to put a bunch of paintings. Exactly.
Exactly. There's no theological statements here. He wanted to, I'm
sure he sold these books, right? He's selling the books, the nicer
the artwork in it. And at that time, they were all doing this,
right. At that time. Also, their arcade was far messed up, right?
Far worse. So when you were saying like, How could something in the
middle of the tradition be later on viewed as haram? The entire
elcon? Eight, I think the whole thing where they were Shay's
right, so forget just an author of a book.
Yeah, take a shot, and even make it seem like it's and a chef and a
complete heresy could become the rule of a monarchy. Right and
become the ruler of a whole country. We accept this. Yeah, at
that time, the Sunni world was taken over for a while by Morteza
li leaders. Okay.
Now, Dr. Lopez is a self described art nerd. She said she knew about
the potential for conflict on October 6, when she began her
online lecture. It's online to on top of that you're not even
cornered in a classroom. This thing is getting worse. The
student is not even cornered in a classroom. It's an online class.
Man, are you kidding? The laptop? Seriously, log off for two
seconds, go back to looking at your phone, you know, I guarantee
you're not even looking in the first place. She said she spent a
few minutes explaining why she was showing the image how different
religions have depicted the divine and how standards changed over
time, blah, blah. I do not want to present the art of Islam as
something that is monolithic. Okay, she said an interview adding
that she had been shown the image as a grad student. She also showed
a second image from the 16th century that depicted the Prophet
covered in a veil with a veil. Dr. Lopez Prater said that no one in
class raise concern. There was no disrespectful commentary. After
the class ended. Miss wedded to a business major and president of
the university's MSA
They stuck around to voice her discomfort
after the class, okay, fine, good after the class is over, but wait
a second, she gave you a chance to do this before class. But way
before. Immediately afterwards, Dr. Lopez sent an email to her
department, Allison Baker about the encounter she thought misled
itself in my complaint. Miss Baker, the chair of the digital
and Studio Art Department responded to the email minutes
later, it sounded like you did everything right. I believe in
academic freedom. So you got to have my support.
Okay, as Dr. Lopez predicted Misurata tele reach out to the
administrators Dr. Lopez, with Miss Baker's help wrote an
apology. Now here's the thing. You're spineless. stick to the
rules that you did that you had. I gave you a chance to leave.
I gave you a chance to leave. Why are we apologizing here? Okay.
Not apologizing doesn't mean you have to be mean. It doesn't mean
you have to be disrespectful. But you could not. You don't have to
don't apologize for something you didn't do wrong. You can be really
nice but not apologize at the same time. Firmness and
firmness and meanness and disrespect are not coupled
together. They're separate things. They wrote an apology. They
explained that sometimes diversity involves bringing contradicting
uncomfortable and coexisting truths into conversation with each
other. Mr. Atala declined an interview request, why did you
decline? Right? If you're the hero of the story?
Yeah, this is a Muslim, she's a youth youth can make maybe make a
mistake, maybe get whatever. But
and she did not explain why she had not raised concerns before the
image was shown. That's why you can't give an interview. Right?
You can't give an interview because that's the first question
I'm going to be given. Right.
But in an email statement, she said image of the Prophet Muhammad
should never be displayed. I agree with you. 100%. I agree with the
sister 100%. Right. And I'm sure she's coming with the right
intention, everything but the way that this went about and
the way that you're dealing with someone to try to respect you, and
you ended up getting them fired.
And that Dr. Lopez gave a trigger warning precisely because she knew
such images were offensive to many Muslims. The lecture was so
disturbing that she could no longer see herself in that course.
Four days after class. Miss Lopez, Dr. Lopez was summoned to a video
meeting with the dean Marcela, Costa Hova. Dr. COSTA Hova
compared showing the image to using a racial epithet for black
people.
Some images, I would say is similar to that.
This image
was very clear to me that she had not talked to any art historians.
A couple of weeks later, the university rescinded its offer to
teach next semester, Dr. Lopez said she was ready to move on she
had teaching jobs at other schools. But on November 7, she's
going to be invited to all the you know, anti Islamic conferences, so
she'll have a living for herself. She had teaching jobs at other
schools, she said. But on November 7, David Everett, the Vice
President for inclusive excellence, sent an email sent an
email to all university employees saying that certain actions taken
in an online class were undeniably inconsiderate, disrespectful and
Islamophobic. I really feel that although those words are nice,
it's more driven from the fear of the mob.
Because remember, Muslims, as long as we're in, in America, we get
the minority tag.
Islam in a Muslim country is draconian, it's anti freedom. It's
whatever, right?
You always have to look at it that way. It's not about you being
Muslim, it's about you being a minority. That's the truth of the
matter. As long as you're in the minority, you will get the
sympathy and you'll be treated with these gloves. But as soon as
you're the majority, you're treated as repressive, backward,
etc.
The administration,
after meeting with the schools Muslim Student Association would
host an open forum on the subject of Islamophobia. Dr. Lopez,
who had only begun teaching at Hamline in the fall said she felt
like a bucket of ice water had been dumped over her head but the
shock soon give away to blistering anger at being characterized in
those terms by somebody who I have never even met or spoken with. How
fair is that? How unfair is that? Right? Like you've never even
talked to that no one talked to this woman to the teacher. Yet
you're gonna go and do this to her. You're gonna get a reaction.
The Quran warns us. Be mindful of how you respond. Don't create
something worse, right. Don't create something bad. Don't create
an enemy when you don't need
This person is permanently traumatized by Islam. No. And by
Muslims. That's how she's really right to say this. Right
blistering anger at being characterized
in those terms by someone I'd never even met. You had one online
conversation after class after she had invited you to talk.
Now, for the Muslim sister Jani.
You're responsible for this.
Fortunately, I hate to say that but
she reached out to Dr. Gruber who ended up writing the essay and
starting the petition. Yeah, now all the artists are gonna get
together. Right? And it may end up being something far worse. All
right, let's, let's take a look at what else is going on here.
The forum turns emotional, really. So there's more at the December 8
Forum, which was attended by several dozen students, faculty
and administrators, Miss Weda, Tala described through tears, how
she felt seeing the image. Well, I'm sort of glad that her fitrah
is that way. Right? That's, that's wonderful. Like I'm saying, yeah,
she's the Muslim. We also have vitamin Omid lumen, the Prophet
said, you support your Muslim brother in the right and in the
wrong in the right, we know how to support them when they're in the
wrong is by by lovingly correcting them, or advising them. And, and
it might have sounded harsh what I said before, but now that they
bring a human to it, and it's,
you know, most of that, okay, I would still say you did wrong to
the sister to this, I mean to this woman, you did wrong to this
professor. The fifth three responses wonderful. The fact that
you cannot see the prophesy sentiment and image like that and
you want him honored, you will get rewarded for that. Right. But you
also got to do things right.
Who do I call it ADM? She asked when you see someone disrespecting
and offending your religion.
Okay, other Muslim students on the panel. All black women also spoke
tearfully about struggling to fit in at Hamline students of color in
recent years had protested what they call the racist incidents.
The university they said paid lip service to diversity and did not
support students with institutional resources. The main
speaker was Jay Lani Hussain.
Beautiful name
is he holding Subhas you have a turban on with that name, right.
Abdul Qadir jeelani Hussain, the executive director at Kerr Muslim
civil rights group discussion started to
Jelani Hussein, it says that the instructors action he said hurt
Muslim students and students of color and had absolutely no
benefit.
Honestly, what color is involved in this color is a separate issue.
It may be an issue, but you can be an Albanian Muslim is to be
offended, right? If this institution wants to value these
students, he added it cannot have incidents like this happen. I have
trouble with the characterization of this the intent and the stuff.
I have trouble with this incident when this is something that could
have actually been avoided if we went about things the right way.
And it was not like someone's trying to offend you.
If somebody wants to teach some controversial stuff about Islam go
teach it at the local library. But wait a second is a secular school
though. Right? And she's She told you anyway, let's keep going Mark
Berkson, or wait, why would the local library be fair? Wait, we
all pay for that. Right? That's that's worse because our tax money
goes there. Right? I'm sure he's just using it as an expression.
But that makes less sense because that's the public this is a
private school. It would seem that you could say whatever you want in
private more so than in public. Anyway. I'm sure he didn't you
just saying that. But Mark Burks in a religion professor at Hamline
raised his hand. When you say trust Muslims on his stomach
phobia, Dr. Berkson asked, What does one do when the Islamic
community itself is divided on an issue? Thank you very much. The
painting was made by a Muslim
from their perspective, right? heretical, Orthodox, they could
care less or Muslim. Because there are many Muslim scholars and
experts and our historians who do not believe that this was
Islamophobic.
Mr. Hussein responded that there were marginal and extremist voices
on any issue. You can teach a whole class about why Hitler was
good, Mr. Hussein said Why are you bringing Hitler with the name of
the prophets? I said no, I don't get these people. Yeah, cool
enough. Allah. You have missed Mr. Kerr. Whatever. Jay Daniel was
saying, Okay.
Should never utter the word Hitler in a conversation about Muhammad
Sallallahu he was telling them you're a public. Jonnie media is
your job. That's care, right? Media. They use the media to get
their way sometimes they use the courts to get their way sometimes
There are persuasive techniques.
That Hitler argument is like the go to it should know. It's the go
to argument, you know? Yeah, yes, that's it. That is it.
Yes. Oh my gosh, that it's a thing on the internet that as soon as
the word Hitler is mentioned, the conversation is done with, right.
During the, say, the Virgin Mary say, Mother Teresa, right, say
someone could come up with controversial things, say
something that has a decent association in the eyes of people.
During the exchange, Mr. Baker, the department head and Dr.
Everett, the administrator, separately walked up to the
religion Professor put their hands on his shoulder and said this was
not the time to raise these concerns. They shut him down his
bosses
but Dr. Berkson who said he strongly supported campus
diversity said he felt compelled to speak up, you see how we're in
such awkward times where on the on the on the issue of process. And
with that said, on the issue of the content of force of what the
Muslim said, right. But in terms of process, and you set some
standards for yourself as a secular university, you set some
rules, right? You follow them? Right. And none of the Muslims
took the avenues you gave them to differ.
So on the issue a process I'm with them.
And also Yanni we Muslims, we don't just cut next all the time.
Even me, I'm the biggest supporter of cutting Next, a lot of next
should be cut. Right? But cutting next in the wrong place is not
right. And when I say cutting next, I mean that hyperbolically
Right, meaning, drawing the line in the sense and shutting down
people who are making fun of you. But when it's when the hammer goes
down on the wrong person, I feel bad, right? I feel like this is
this is wrong.
In the process, thank you.
Thank you, there needs to be added in the means as well as nobility
in the end may be noble, the means also must be noble. And this to
me, I don't feel I felt as though we were being asked to accept. I
mean, the part where she's sacked like that. And humiliated is the
end result of getting the university to not show these
images is wonderful. Right. But that she was a victim that I think
worse is going to come because of this. Like it's going to spark a
movement against the Prophet Seisen. And we're we are warned to
take that into consideration. Not just you just go in with your
cannons, no matter what happens. No, like,
except, yeah, visual.
Visual entities aren't accepted because the seven that they take.
It's not there's no other than the correct reason we have established
procedures. Yeah, all the procedure, even though they might
have a good end. Yeah. It might take down some oppressive rulers.
Yes. And, and every good end of a vigilante is a temporary end. It's
never going to be like that. It's there's always going to be a
response. Right? Because if if if you could arrive at a wonderful
end and be consistent upon that, and have buttock of life flow from
that, that would negate that. It's vigilantism, right? Baraka and the
long term benefit is only going to grow when the meat and when the
means are also pure. And just. And I still stand by the idea that Dr.
Lopez here was was mistreated. We were being asked to accept without
questioning that what our colleague did teaching Islamic art
masterpiece in a class on our history, after having multiple
warnings, was somehow equivalent to mosque vandalism, and violence
against Muslims and hate speech. This is what I could not stand and
I agree with him. It's not hate speech. It's wrong. It disrespects
Muslims. But the intent of the person who we have to take into
account, I agree with him on process on other things. Another
issue is that everything is equated to the most extreme form
possible. Yeah. And there's no like Shades of Grey. Meaning that
you do this, you're just like, supporting Hitler. Yeah, I mean,
this is just like, yeah, exactly how committed you're, you're
minimizing that, you're minimizing that. And I would say, Hold on a
second, you're not powerful enough to be like Hitler, right. You
cannot offend us in the same way. You know, it's upon Allah.
In interviews, several Islamic art scholars took issue with the idea
that Dr. Lopez intended to disrespect the prophet, and said
that it was nothing like the cartoons and Charlie Hebdo, the
French satirical magazine, that had reprinted mocking cartoons of
the Prophet that led to the deadly till 2015 attack at the magazines
office, which scholars also denounced
Edward Mitchell, the Deputy Executive Director of the National
chapter of care, national chapter, how does that make sense? Why
didn't the national the national headquarters write the national
will be the main thing and the chapter would be the local ones
anyway, said that he did not have enough information to comment on
the Hamline dispute. But while his group discourages visual
depictions of the Prophet, he said that there was a difference
between an act that was on Islamic and one that was Islamophobic.
That's a nice way to put it. That is a good way to put it. What's
going on in the chat.
Anything on marriage, marriage conversation, bless you guys want
to try to get these people married.
Okay, I really liked this. So good quote from Ed Mitchell. Brother Ed
Mitchell, by the way,
on Islamic versus Islamophobic. If you drink a beer in front of me,
you're doing something that is honest nomic, but not
Islamophobic. Thank you. Right. That's what we said. You join a
culinary arts school. They cook pork and wine. Don't say to them,
they're trying to offend. You know, you signed up for a secular
French culinary art school. Right? Now, if you drink beer in front of
me deliberately, because you're trying to offend me. Well, maybe
that's a different matter. Thank you. It's a matter of intent. You
come from another mosque. And you get 10. Guys, let's all just drink
beer and eat pork. Firstly, that doesn't bother me. Number one.
You're Not You can't offend me with that number number one, but
number two, your intent is to offend me. It's very different
than just guy walking down the road and he's drinking a beer.
Ryan's professor. Yeah, that's an intent to disrespect, good. intent
and circumstances matter. He said, especially in a university
setting, where academic freedom is critical. And Professors often
address sensitive and controversial topic. So this guy,
he hit the nail on the head. Intent is what matters. It's I
like to hear people saying the same stuff that we're saying
because that shows that on a matter of opinion, your opinion
has weight. If you have an opinion on a matter of opinion, and your
opinion is way off and no one else shares that opinion. Chances are
you're not the genius, you're probably wrong about some of the
facts or your line of thinking is incorrect. Because the number of
geniuses in the world who are going to arrive at the right
opinion on a speculative matter.
to the exclusion of everyone else. Right is
very slim. Dr. Safi, the Duke professor said Hamline had
effectively taken sides in a debate among Muslims, whether it
took the wrong the right side technically, students don't have
to give up their values. He said he added but some part of the
educational process does call for stepping beyond each one of our
vantage points enough to know that none of us have the monopoly on
the truth. Okay, so this is relativism in Islam. Dr. Omid Safi
is a relativist within Islam, like everything goes, okay, as long as
you have a good heart, that's like I get his soul to me that as long
as you have a good heart, you're devoted, everything goes.
Of course, he doesn't go by the FIP saying that it was in the
secular and I don't think he would say the same thing. If you're
under the Samick University, like within zaytuna. I hope they're not
displaying pictures. Like I think everyone would say, I hope this
within the secular paradigm of multiculturalism. Yeah, have to do
with, of course, in that in that respect, but I would assume and
that a college like say tuna.
You can't just be a Muslim college. What most what Islam, I
had a certain knowledge about the four schools.
It anism like, where do you draw the line? Are you drawing the line
on the autism?
Well, why not draw it on Shiism? Then why not draw it on?
Allah vism, Syrian, Syrian and Turkish elevates who we also hold
their beliefs necessitate? Like where do you draw the line? So
you're going to draw the line on the cutter yet that are motivated?
Why not draw them on the cutter yet that are not whatsoever? That
are just I had, right. But there's still a Yeah, that's a line of
code and the line of bitter, like, where do you draw the lines? You
got to draw lines. So the point being, you draw your lines where
you draw them, but the process should be just explain to everyone
where are the lines? Right? And then people should respect that
liberals included?
Dr. Safi has his own personal image of the Prophet. As we said,
he his school of thought is that as long as it's devotional and
good intentioned, then it's fine. Right? And good. So but we say
that that's a heretical view. Okay, that no, that's not, that's
not the line. The line is the language of the Quran and the
Hadith as understood by what the Arabs meant by those words.
That's common sense. What is Islam? Islam is what God and His
Prophet said is Islam. Okay? Well, we're gonna use the words the
words that they uttered
in the Hadith, and that's written in the Quran. Okay, well, who's
the arbiter of those what the meanings of those words are the
Arabs at that time and before, not afterwards. So there was no
redefining of language, it's very, it's a fair way to determine what
a religion is. The religion defines itself with its own
primary sources. And the language must be defined by that period of
time or before, not afterwards, we're not going to come and change
the definitions, no one has the right to define Kumar, later on,
you define it beforehand. So that's why pre Islamic poetry is
very important, and the understanding of the Sahaba that
generation.
And then you could say, up to 100 years when the last Sahabi died.
That's how we defined it. Now, if it's, it's going to be either
explicit or interpretive. If it's explicit, then there's no way you
can go against it. If it's interpretive, then you can have
variety of opinions. That's how simple it is. But those opinions
can never contradict an explicit verse, or Hadith.
So he has his own personal image of the Prophet when he was 14, his
family fled to the US from Tehran, during the Iran Iraq War, he
packed an image of Mohammed holding a Quran
into one of the family suitcases. The image doesn't make any sense
because the Quran was not bound in a book in the time of the prophet
in the first place. That's another story. But this image now hangs on
his wall at home. Alright, so that's his opinion on things which
we will disagree with completely. From internally as Muslims, we
will say no, that's, that's not the way we define Islam is not by
whatever is done nicely and with a good feeling and a good intent
does not make it right. Right.
Alright, so the comments here are pretty much in line with what
we're saying here. Like, they really did not like the way this
went down. Okay.
See, once again, it's religion that untangles our society, and
causes division and trauma. So
this is the type of this is the type of reaction. Whereas if this
was a disrespectful image, with clear intent to disrespect, and
then someone did something bad to this person, people would view it
differently.
I'm so dismayed. Okay.
All these comments.
So
there we go. That is our session. Let's go to open q&a. If you want
to stick to this topic, you can, preferably but if you need to
discuss something else.
There's a great story that's coming to my mind right now. About
this. There's this I think, woman from maybe remembering this wrong,
but when
did you get curious on all these places, they're, they're like
Muslim, Honey by name. But in this country, there are a lot of like
secular ideologies, which probably is influenced from Russia is
communist or not, but within this country, it's, it's illegal for a
woman to wear hijab inside public buildings and that country in this
country, right? But it's, it's the Muslim country, but there are
these ideologies that have seeped in and
transformed things.
So
this is a blog that was written by a Muslim woman she was writing
out, she met this lady
in like a park and she was with the playground, she asked this
lady like,
don't you ever want to go back home like things like I'm stuck in
the US? Like, we have all this Islamophobia and people look at
you weird when we're at a job and you get side stares, or like side
glances and comments and all this like, where's you'd just rather go
back to your home country? Did you? Please choose from
Tajikistan? She said, Are you kidding me? This place is
incredible. Yeah, even though I may be getting these looks on
these comments, I'm still able to wear my hijab wherever I see.
That's why I went when I say something like, Oh, you don't like
this go to France. See what life is like? It's not to say that,
that that that makes the situation right. But it makes it the best of
your alternatives. Like you have to understand that relativity like
that is that's what we have to deal with. Would you rather be a
Muslim here or in Egypt?
If you want to talk the you better be here.
You can't give talks like this and live in Saudi. They'll set you
down. By the way. When I was there, one brother. He lives in
Saudi he did a stream with me
Months ago, he told me by the way, I was called by someone who said,
By the way, I have an in with some of the security that is take that
that episode you did with me, right?
They're watching, and they're telling him warning him right
about different episodes that he did.
You don't have anything like this happen here.
It's a gratefulness. It's kind of like a lack of perspective.
That's, it's totally perspective. And it's totally, it's simply the
issue of
it's not it doesn't mean something is right. Just because you need to
be thankful for it. But it means that trust me out there in the
world is far, far worse. Okay. And yeah, as we said, the end result
is something we are happy to see that they're not going to show it
but the way we got there to me is wrong, and will cause worse
problems later on. It will cause something worse in my opinion. All
right, let's go to the question. Massoud. Can you please update the
mbf recordings to the scenes it podcasts? Yes. Right. Can you see
what what's going on with that they're not on?
I think we have to put them onto SoundCloud. Audio files on
SoundCloud. Can you see how we we are we do it?
How can we define such Sophia? Or apply diversity and inclusion as
Muslims following the Sharia? It all depends on every contract that
we're in. Right? It all depends on the contract that we're engaged
in. That's all that we're talking about. It's all about the
contract. So every single contract is going to be different, some of
which do not require us to ask about people's faith and religion,
such as a tenant. If I have a tenant in the city, I'm not
required to ask the details of how they plan on living.
But if I run a masjid, I do have to check what doctored of my
speaker right like that.
Chocolate Wallace says,
chocolate while here is an interstellar fin with an
interstellar
icon, their thumbnail, whatever you call it, what do you call it?
profile pic.
You had said we can take technical Dini knowledge from a teacher that
had their private sins exposed? Does that extend to the knowledge
of Quranic knowledge of CDs insofar as it is technical meaning
that it's something that can be objectively shown such as awkward
and flip.
Right? Also tafsir can be that and Tafseer can sometimes be what's
called tafsir HRT which is, which is about
spiritual insights, spiritual insights is one thing. But when
it's something like technical, tough see it related to a hadith
and language that can be taken even if the person had their sins
exposed?
Is it okay to read him? knucklebones books? Yes.
Kevin Bacon says how should we treat learning in Islamic Western
in western Islamic institutions? I really would have to see, to be
honest with you what they're saying. And I'm not like some kind
of judge but I would that's the method would be to see what each
individual College has put there as their starting point. Are they
saying that they're just Muslim and leaving it open? Are they
saying it This is a sunnah to me? That's important, right? I need to
know where what I'm going to be learning here
what's the best way to seek protection from a real an oncoming
human threat is to recite Hassan Allah when Emma will kill many
many, many many times
can we reach Simpson mod if no, you cannot even own it? It's haram
to own you have to burn it. Why? Because it has in it the means by
which you can contact evils. Jen, can you tell me how one of my
elders uses all different calendar times
within the form of hubs to read salah.
I asked them they say this is my personal Iman.
So fetcher how Yanni. I don't understand.
They use all different calendar times within the four month hubs
to read their Scylla to pray.
God if EOS adrenaline like
Like Hanafi Asad when he wants to Hanafy the HUD one he wants to
like that.
It's not the right way to do things, it's to show him the right
way to do things is to find a methodology
and to live by that methodology. Okay, that's the right way to do
things.
I was washing the toilet says, Australia 21. And some of the
water splashed on my clothes while the toilet water in Australia goes
down the opposite way. Right? Because they're from the south.
There was no visible filth in the water. Do I still have to change
out of them? No, no, Jessa must be something that you can see. If you
cannot see it, you're not obligated to suspect it?
Yes, or smell it? Right. Or taste it?
No, don't taste good. But no, you don't have to. It's we don't
assume the gesture just by suspicion.
But if you have a doubt, such that there was an adjustment in the
toilet at the same time,
then you would have to you don't have to take your clothes off
either. You just have to run water on that part of the clothes that
you think gotten the Gesa on it. And that's enough.
Um, MJ says, Are these session live saved yesterday. They're all
saved on YouTube. And they should be on SoundCloud and Spotify and
on iTunes and but apparently we had a delay in that. Right so
we're uploading all of them.
Can I listen to a cut he says hop using my headphones while reciting
Quran in my salah to help me with Tedrick love.
Sophia says how do you explain to a layman that Salamis are not like
the four methods to follow?
Yeah.
You can explain that simply by asking them
how old they are, and how many checks they went through. You see
the beauty of the methods that have been checked time after time
after time. For centuries. They have been checked. Right? You have
to manually do this.
Yeah, once it's once it's an mp3.
Oh, that's why No, it won't read that. I don't know how open open
it up and make it an mp3
Tell them Okay, go. Sofia saying I did that they don't get it. You
say okay, go and follow that path. Let's talk in 10 years.
I don't like resistance to be honest with you. If you have if
you know what you're doing. You don't never need to do resistance,
right? You never need to resist just go do it. Someone says hey,
was Madigan Abu Hanifa
What did they do? They read the Quran. They read the Hadith. They
came with the conclusion. So why can I do this empty? Say okay, go
do it. Get yourself some followers, see what happens. Okay.
What's a good place to learn Arabic online? Hey, what's the
school that you guys go to studio out of you?
What's it called?
properly, properly or studio out of em.
Enza GEMA says, What's the best way to show gratitude to Allah
subhanaw taala? Well, quite simply, gratitude to Allah has a
couple of
conditions. Okay. Next first condition is that you do not use
you recognize that the NAM is from Allah to Allah. And you've, you
Thank you.
Thank you. Okay.
With your mouth,
in your heart, that's the first thing recognizing where the number
came from. And that is not from you. See, we say in our religion,
that evil comes from us, but good comes from Allah. Why is that?
Because the good that you do.
You get rewarded for it.
You will get rewarded for it. But there's a chain that led you to
that good. Where did that chain come from? All gifts from Allah.
So you have to be thankful for all evil Allah warned you against it
told you not to do it yet you still did it. So evil we attribute
to ourselves. Good we attribute to Allah subhanho wa Taala and the
sick heart does the opposite attributes all good to himself
becomes arrogant and when something bad happens, whereas
God's mercy was gonna have to do with it right. So number one is
you thank Allah to Allah in your heart and your tongue number two,
you do not use it in the Haram
that's
As for it, you use it only in the Hello. Now the Nefer the extra is
to use it to help others that is sugar and hunt and that's what
being grateful for Your blessing this
so I had all my says
one Moroccan lady broke her leg and did in hospital had surgery
hamdulillah one nurse accepted Islam by seeing her yes, because a
lot of people the reaction to suffering
reflects their Iman. Right and people like wow, this is something
else.
Okay
many stars mom is involved now in the live stream. What's her name?
Macro star. There's a mini has to have the major right. Sophia says
I told her look at how they treat the prophets. I send them she said
look at
this group of people who don't follow them. Others said Look how
they treat the Prophet. That's true. They're not they don't have
near that respect. Okay.
Yeah, of course, they always have a very close relationship with
little Surahs of course, yes. Knowing that, you know, especially
a very high level.
almost definitely Subhan Allah they do every day. They're saying
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam many times and caring about his words
and pressing it on protecting it. There's there's a salami, or sugar
heavy, publicly stated it was actually crying about I've never
seen it.
And students are trying to justify it being like, he doesn't need it.
Yeah.
But
yeah, proof is in the pudding, proofs in the pudding because the
messenger does not increase the value or the So Ed. If someone if
their update is wrong, which is what Turquoise is asking, Can we
pray behind Wahhabi if he has explicit statements of touch seem
than the answer is not explicit, we don't assume it. explicit
statement of touch screen.
And there are many, right? There are many.
For example, one of them has, that Allah has a shadow. Why? Because
Allah says seven are in the shade of Allah on the day that there is
no shade but his shade meaning his, the sun is above him. And
there's a shadow being cast from God. Really, that does not even
what the language means. It means he created that shade and he owns
it.
So keep me in your DUA, if you could. I've been sick. And he's in
the hospital for so pays in the hospital.
Allah subhanaw taala give him as she felt
as well as for Triple H.
May Allah give Sophia Shiva
a spa know us behind molecular Allah Al Hamdulillah, Bella and
me. Oh, my MJ says what is today aka who is eligible? Typical. It's
just like, it's a spiritual path. And just I just said that about
Jelenia Hussein, because the people of today tend to love the
color. Jana and Jana Sena remember Hussein? So his name had that
kind of white, I just came back from vacation. Has time been
changed? Yes, we're now at one to three, we go from one to 3pm.
Elite says Why didn't you study at a city college like University of
Medina.
I was actually had signed up and was accepted at mechas Omokoroa.
University. And they said go take the two years language class. Two
years language course. In Medina, this was 1998.
Okay, so my dad goes checks it out. I went to Morocco, right?
My dad said, Oh, while you're there, I'll go to Medina. Check it
out. He's checks it out. And he comes upon some of these, you
know, they might get offended. But some of them were happy kids.
And he was like, just from a federal perspective. Oh, what is
this?
My son's not going to last with these people. Right? These people
are too much. They're too much. Oh, they're too much, man. Some of
these they were they were too much. So he
I didn't know what it will have. He was what a medic. He was I
didn't know anything. Right. That's why I love that age.
Because that age to me was such a moving that phase of Islam when
you're just coming in and just figuring things out. Right. So
at that time, there weren't a lot of Islamic institutions. There was
that one.
And it was like, No, we're not going to do that. Morocco.
Egyptians don't send their kids to Morocco. Right. And then Syria.
People had warned us No, don't go to Syria. So my parents
was like, Okay, well, we'll go to Syria. It just wasn't something
that you could learn a lot about.
If you didn't have a connection,
right? You only you can only learn what you knew what you had
connections for. So it's not like today where I can go to internet I
can even contact these people on WhatsApp. And it's a lot.
But it works. Yeah, as the Arabs call it, what's
it wasn't really like that, right? So I ended up having just to study
privately with people. Also, you know what I would think maybe if I
went to an institution that had exams and stuff, it may turn you
know, may make it forced. And when the knowledge is forced, you may
not like it.
I'm looking for equipment says a for my mask, like Mike and Mike
stance. I don't know anything about it, to be honest with you.
As Hawk says, Is there anything beneficial Islamically about
working with sick people or in a hospital? Yes, remembrance of
death and taking the love of dunya from your heart, but I'm sure
though at some point it becomes monotonous.
Beatty says British Telecom says if someone is dying, is it haram
to ask Allah to take years of their life and give it to them?
No, we don't do that. Just ask Allah to cure them. That's it.
Yeah.
Doesn't have to be like that to give. Yes. That's true.
Yeah, exactly. That sort of gives the impression that
he's jammed by a pre determined destiny and Allah has never jumped
Thank you.
You don't need to say he's asked May Allah increase his life and
make a difference you
can you tell us about the white scarf? No, it is not. It is a
sunnah to wear a white scarf according to Matic insula or to
the masjid as Kulu Xena to command the colon Masjid Malik interpreted
as the shawl around your scarf, or over your shoulder? That's all
it's not anything more than that. And I just happened to be wearing
it. That's all
Okay, everyone, M star is now mini star.
Or just Mini?
Joanna, is the ex father in law? Still a Muharram? To the divorce
who has children? And the answer is yes. But it is just mcru to
reveal your hair in front of them. But they are still Muharram you
can never marry them. But and they are Muharram by this mcru to
reveal your head at your hair in front of them. Why? Because
the relationship is no longer there. The reason for their mommy
is no longer there. But they are so modern to Dr. Eddie nimbala.
How do we use the book of dua it's named moko Leyba by the m&e
scholars of Balawi.
I didn't see the book, but I'm assuming that you can just read
freely from it.
Can you go into Macaulay but I remember it actually. It's a huge
book. I actually do remember it.
Ryan's gonna pull it up right now.
Mocha Eva is a massive drop book, which keep going let's see what
the pages look like.
It seems to me that it's just that it's big book, very big book. But
it seems to me it's like all different a day. Yeah. I need to
get the book actually.
Mas que says yesterday you mentioned the difference between
scholars and layman his intentions? What does that mean?
It means that the most important part of scholarship is to learn
how to make a good intention. And what is a good intention? Right? A
common person may not know that the mundane actions that you do
all day, you can transform that into rewardable action. Everything
that you could do, can be transformed into rewardable
action. And that study is why Allah subhanaw taala says in the
max Allah homenaje bad the Lord, the true piety, the true awe of
Allah is, is in the main majority in the hearts of the scholars. Why
because he knows the wisdoms behind every action. He knows the
great results of different Eva dots, and how they draw nearer and
therefore that knowledge is able to allow them to get rewarded for
every thing that they're doing all the time. Even they're sleeping.
Exactly. The inner and outer meaning and wisdom of actions.
That's one of the reasons why the Scholars get so much reward is
because they're able to now make intentions.
For example,
a lot of the scholars, their youth work is nothing special.
Right, but they're making the intention of at least keeping them
away from something that's how to
go.
Barbarossa says, Sometimes I cry when I'm praying, what will you
say for me for knowing? I'm not keeping my pray all the time.
If you're not keeping your prayers up all the time, as much as you
can you keep working on that until you pray five times a day. Then,
after you pray five times a day for a good period of time, then
you can now calculate what you missed and make them up.
My heart is heavy, please make a dua that Allah and creates me
peace, says Khalil Hamza. May Allah subhanaw taala ease your
burdens and you know that
when your heart is heavy, the prophets I seldom said the salah
upon him is what removes anxiety. So
get busy with that and ask Allah to reveal or relieve your heart,
and also repeat 100 times a day or Bucha. Honey somebody way silly,
Emery. Rubbish. Friday, Saturday was cilium X. X oil says, Is it
true you have to be intimate with your husband within two weeks of
being married? No, there's no such rule like that.
Intimacy is assumed from as soon as you get married, like what is
the purpose of getting married, except if a circumstance happens
in between, such as a circumstance, like he's out of
town or he had to leave or something like that. Maybe she got
married in a time where they couldn't be intimate with each
other. So there's no such rule of when but there is a rule that if
there's a clause in the contract that says I will not be intimate
with you. That clauses invalid. Let's say a woman says I want to
get married, but I don't want anyone touching my body.
So as you put that in a clause in a marriage contract, that clause
is null and void the whole purpose of marriage. One of its main
purposes is to allow each other to touch and look at each other.
So
I said Davies A salaam aleikum, hope all's well yes hamdulillah
shadow kill, please make two out my father has passed away
recently. Allah Tata give him genitive for the dose without any
he said.
Can you tell us about the end of life of Imam Malik he was sick at
the end of his life and he stopped going to the masjid. Right.
And then he passed away when he passed away. He said
that you will all be shocked at the mercy of Allah.
Coming from someone who is known for his strict statements.
Dr. Eadie says why is it that some issues are so controversial across
the spectrum of medicine? Yet some teachers say there's a huge amount
about their judgment, like much on marriage accepted by some which
there is no way any Sunni scholar will allow from what's our
marriage, the prophet forbade it. Okay. Said naughty informed said
Now, if not best that it was forbidden, except that sin of
nobis did not know it was forbidden. That's why he was
young, I guess when he was young when he was forbidden. He didn't
know was forbidden. So he was teaching it. After the death of
the prophets. I send them and his cousin said nadie is the one who
told him no, the prophet forbade this. So he said, Okay, it's
forbidden.
Sophia says we're waiting for pictures on the revamp, okay. It's
going to be maybe hopefully February.
If Medicine says these are side effects, is this medicine or is it
poison? Well, the side effect that's a good question. The side
effects better be far less than the disease, right.
Dr. Eddie's again, says What's your recommended way to recite
duat? Joe, Shawn will Kebede? I'm not familiar with that. I know
it's in the subcontinent one of the old out there. So I can't tell
you.
So if Antonia when is humbly Athena coming out, it's pretty
much almost ready. He's just he said the Sheikh said I want to
send you some more videos. So we're waiting on those mas que.
Asking about the different calendars.
I really don't know to be honest with you how they're using four
different calendars. But all I can tell you is that the right way to
practice is you pick a methodology you use your brain that Allah gave
you to choose a method to choose an imam to choose a method that is
most worthy of following and then you follow that to the tee unless
there's a hardship
is it okay to mix a rod from different tutup Yeah, unless
you're committed to something there's no harm in that but if
you're committed to something you should stick to it.
If you're on a road trip and Salah has
Come in. Is it better to do TM or wait until the next exit for will
do? Okay, great question. And the answer is that you're in one of
three states, if you don't have water, the state of knowing for
sure that you will reach water. In that case, you're not allowed to
make Tim the case of being 5050. In that case, you're not allowed
to make Tamblyn the first half of the prayer time you're allowed to
make TMO thereafter the third case you're pretty sure you're not
going to get water in time. You can make Tamil from any time right
away
can we make up our own our rod for example? Yes, there's nothing
wrong with that. But the best it's better to take the oath odds of
the righteous scholars before us because their intentions were
pure. They knew what they're putting in it. So I would rather
for example, recite the word of Imam in Norway then the word of
the local Imam
Imam and no we he died he's accepted in the OMA we know this
person is Mubarak and the Kaboul is all over him. So I will take
his own rather than somebody else's right um, one of those
somebody else's who was who am I? I don't I don't even know if I'm
gonna die upon a slump that's the truth. I don't know if I'm gonna
die upon the sooner I don't know if I'm gonna die upon piety We ask
Allah to always let us live and die in the Ellison that will Gemma
what taco well, they will do I will Kaboul we have to pray for
that. So we are creation are creatures in the balance still?
Right?
Our good and bad is unknown. Those who passed away of the shield
and centuries have passed and we're still honoring them. This is
the site unlimited Kabuli Alright, let's take their own rod rather
than our owns, okay, or you know, our own node. But if you were
there's no harm and if someone says I made my own wood I know
sir. We're just saying comparatively it means nothing
comparatively it doesn't mean much right? But it's it's completely
valid any your dot will be it's a bad so he had everything and I
wrote my own dot
write your own dot. We're talking about of God here, not personal
joy. Of course personal joy is separate. Everyone has to do their
own personal draw my life, my whatever.
But if it's of God, let's begin with spirits and Facha then it
will corsi then the last three days of spiritual Bacara. Then law
as another Khurana then da endure, then has one alone mo keyed 100
times then this. You can author what you want. Right? And Allah
may accept it from YouTube. And who knows maybe you're also a
remote arbiter maybe she's also going to be one of the Saudi hats.
Right? And we're Jill Morabito becomes famous after that. You
never know. You think Salah Hina is over or over with, like there's
no sort of hint. Yes, Allah says in the end,
Thriller terminal Olean, Waka De La Mina, Corinne. So there is
Khalil in the end of time, but that doesn't mean there's none.
If a person doesn't know how many salons they missed,
so what do they do? What you're going to do is you're going to
make an estimate that is for sure.
encompassing what you missed. So if you're thinking, Okay, I don't
know if it's three, four or four years. Well, what if I said four
and a half? You said, Oh, definitely less than four and a
half. So do that four and a half.
Interstellar chocolate Wallace says most patient man ever if he
waits his all his life to get married and doesn't consummate
right away?
Yes. This is about the one who doesn't consummate right after
Reid says they can wait, though, to be intimate. Right? Like as
long as it's discussed before marriage, it doesn't have to
happen right away as long as it's not, like
stipulated. And or that there is a reason for example, okay, let's
get married. But I'm in pain right now. I just had surgery, I can't
consummate this marriage, or
she can't say I'm not comfortable with it yet. Then why did you get
married? Right? Marriage? Is your consent to be intimate with
somebody?
Is there any value in consenting to something that you're actually
not ready to do?
Okay.
The expectation is, the watch took an eternity, committed to zoologia
if nataka
right, I marry I've married you to my daughter. I have accepted that
you're married to my daughter. Okay, I don't want to hear tech
beers or anything. I take the daughter and we go home, right? I
don't need two beers. I don't need almonds. I don't need sir but I
Any day that take the bench and go straight home? Hmm, I don't think
biryani No, I'm going straight to the hotel.
That is the technical expectation of marriage. She should be more
excited than you. Right? She should be as excited as the
husband. It's like it's one way. But if she's mentally, emotionally
physically not ready for that.
Then what is the value of doing the cuts will be engaged? Right?
If she has a reason, right? She says, No, I love you. I want to
marry you. I'm just sick right now. Okay, that's fine. That's not
a stipulation. That's a circumstance. No problem with
that.
Okay,
one more other audio Allahu Anhu.
And now Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said,
aka big he will call Am I in the little handbook? Yes. Oh my god. I
love you. For Karla will seek aim, though later than Nephi do booty
Cooley Salatin Dakota, Allahu Piniella decreto Shoukry give me a
bad stick. That is a comment from a talks which means that after
every Salah you must say Aloma are highly suited to say highly
recommend to some alumni now that the cricket show cricket hosting
events to ask Allah to help us in dickered that means that dhikr has
levels right?
Like I have Allah Allah Allah Allah while we're chatting is very
different than I'm going to excuse myself. I'm going to shut my phone
off and I'm gonna go do a bed. There's levels right? With the
cricket we're sure cricket There's levels of Shaka Shaka that
hamdulillah Allah gave me this and I'm not going to use it for haram
koalas you you're at the ground floor of sugar but Allah gave me
this I'm not going to use it for haram but many other people need
help I'm going to spend a lot 50% to help others. Others spend 90%
to help others different levels of sugar we're hosting a bad it's
a bad is levels to
someone who prays chef and witch and goes to bed I know son, masha
Allah, He fulfilled the Sunnah, but someone who prays tahajjud
better
mas que is asking did you manage to find out why the Hanafi is
don't let the wife wash the husband when he passed away? No, I
didn't find out yet. Can you ask?
Is the onset of hade considered the point when prayers should
start counting? Yes, that's correct. Now puberty is not
defined from the age of seven. Puberty is defined when a woman
has hide or a Man Boy releases * whether it's a * or
otherwise, if he can release *
prayers all of the should he has no binding upon him
depending of the voice in the absence of *
not really know
well, when it comes to shake Hold on, you never know how many books
he's citing from so don't
discount it.
When I studied this with Sheikh Mahmoud he listed a lot of things.
The hair under the arms the hair in better shot, better shot I
think is it M dash it right.
As a lay man says turquoise can I make Tao a copy with Islam? Yes, a
lay man does not need
permission before teaching at my Lumina Dean bedarra a lay man, a
common man does not need permission to say alcohol is
haram. Salah is five times a day Mohammed is alas messenger of
Allah. These are cut the yet whatsoever to rot. My alumina Dean
bedarra. The layman does not need
to too, to ask permission for that or take a course the methodology
and the wisdom maybe. But you know that that's what the dean is in
the medical field because gelatin Hedda there's a discussion on it.
I can't give you the code and frustrate here.
All right. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we have a lot of
questions, unfortunately, that we couldn't get to.
Okay, I'll take one more from Joanna s. I'm in my plane. How do
I know how to pray? You have to look out the window.
Okay, you have to look out the window.
And you have to judge the prayer time that you are in right now.
And the only hard prayer to catch is federal as such because you
have to catch it when the sun light is up but the sun is not up.
So beyond that the nighttime prayer is easy. And the daytime
prayer is easy.
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