Shadee Elmasry – Islam in China Peter Sanders NBF 351

Shadee Elmasry
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The Chinese culture is a major influence on the world, including promoting Islam and connecting with communities. The speakers discuss various topics related to the Chinese culture, including pictures and videos of "monster" in the photography industry, the success of their book, and the potential for future reference. They also touch on shabbat and fixing procedures to avoid "head" from being used, the use of shabbat as a means of protecting against evil behavior, and the use of flower bags and a social media initiative.
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Ramona Rahim Al hamdu lillah wa Salatu was Salam ala Rasulillah.

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Early will be here, woman Wella welcome everybody to the Sabine

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side in nothing but facts live stream, on a warm, Thursday and

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sunny Thursday, we have a full house full studio here. And we

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also have a wonderful guest, we're going to bring a guest on, we're

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going to be showing pictures, we're gonna be showing movies,

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we're going to have an interview. So hop over from Instagram, over

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to YouTube, so you can get the full screen. If you're on

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Instagram,

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you're not gonna get the full screen because Instagram is only a

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vertical platform, they actually do have horizontal, but it's

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mainly we only use it as a vertical platform. So hop over to

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YouTube Safina Sadie channel on YouTube. And today, we had

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really been blessed that this book that we have been reading right

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here that I recommend everyone go to Mecca books.com. And scoop one

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up for your house for your kids to read to look at the shoe. Didn't

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we used to have in the past? Not to make a silly example. But

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baseball cards, basketball cards, football cards, hockey cards, it

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makes you love the sport. And that's a waste of time

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essentially. Right? Yes, you will love we had a little bit of Allah

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who was okay. But

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shouldn't we be in love with the idea and our kids should love the

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idea? They should know who the if they're if this is a true

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religion? Shouldn't there be odia in every generation? There should

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be out today.

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And as I said many times before, when we say that we're saying

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based on what we see because only Allah knows the hearts and

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someone's going to criticize and say only Allah knows the hearts.

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Yes, we agreed to that. We know that. But from what we see, this

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is the Willie. Why would Allah tell us be with the solder clean

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if we can identify who they are. We have to be able to identify who

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they are, especially those who have passed away and today we're

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going to bring on a guest who has met many people that we have

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passed away. And this almost like their near history, almost like

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sharing artifacts. And so that'll be the first part of that

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interview. Let's Allman. Are we ready? All right, let's introduce

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our guests. Peter Sanders see to Abdol theme Sanders, well known to

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those who are in certain circles.

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In terms of studying Islam, at least starting from the way back

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maybe 20 years ago, Sita Abdullah theme was always in the circles

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and really giving life through his work through his photography

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through his artistry. So welcome to the Safina siding nothing but

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facts live stream. It's an honor to have you on.

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Thank you.

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We're also with Waseem, who is

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one of the associates one of your associates Welcome on Waseem.

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Can we raise the volume of Belmar? I want to start by saying that

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between yourself between Abdullatif white men, a lot of

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beauty came out? Where did these artists come from? How did they

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end up entering Islam? And, you know, we know that you entered

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Islam probably in the 60s 70s. But then all this art really started

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coming to the next generation maybe in the late 90s. So could

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you tell us a little bit about the context of when you came about and

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entered Islam and where do all these artists come from?

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That's an interesting question.

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I accepted Islam in 1971

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after having been in India for seven months and then coming back

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to the UK to

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discover

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some of my old friends, as you mentioned, Abdullatif and many

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others musicians had while I'd been in India, looking for path,

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they have accepted Islam in London.

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So I think we were, you know, we were from that generation of

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musicians and artists that sort of began their careers in the late

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60s. So you just happen to be a group of friends who are artists

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that entered Islam. Yeah. And the when you did enter Islam, was it?

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Was it promoted for you to continue in the arts? Or was it

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just from yourselves?

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That's an interesting question. I think we were in with a group for

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a while that it was kind of

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not really encouraged. Yeah.

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But I always, you know, I mean, that was my passion photography.

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And so I always kept to it. It's what motivated me. And wherever I

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traveled, I always took pictures.

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Was

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Morocco part of this too? Because I know that your association with

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Morocco and they're completely

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into the arts, their history is amazing.

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Absolutely. And, you know, within three weeks of accepting Islam, I

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went to Morocco.

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And met city more than happy the first person in meetings with

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mountains Subhan Allah subhanaw taala.

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All right, what was seeing? How do you help co opted out them with

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his work

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smuggler him? So hamdulillah for the last best part of the last

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eight, nine years, I've had the honor to work alongside so the

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other theme, because just telling the story of his stories is very

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important. And like you mentioned, that meeting with mountains book

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that you have, I think every household should have one of them

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because it truly is a way to connect to those sentient beings

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and those people that we all aspire that we all want to

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hopefully attain in our life, Inshallah, or trying to reach as

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close as we can, or be like them, and encourage our families in our

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household. And as I've seen, in part, the books of the medium and

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mountains and exemplars, a lot of times, have heard, and then at

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home that I was honored to be with us the other day, a few weeks ago,

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where I knew that he'd be working on this special work about China.

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But when I got to actually sit with them and share some of the

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stories that he mentioned about the unique places that he visited

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in China, which we're going to listen to, later in this podcast,

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it really brought to life about how the narration of our Prophet

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sallallahu Sallam about attaining knowledge and going as far as

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China, many people in our history took that literally and just

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listening to some of those stories, many things I wasn't even

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aware of. It just was inspiring to myself and I've been humbled,

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blessed to work alongside him to help to then connect the

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communities up and down the UK and internationally inshallah and work

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with the likes of Arthur and Mecca books to also get them across to

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us. So 100 working alongside him on this massive project for the

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Islam in China. And I'm just encouraging as many people to help

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to tell the story of China through the through the lens and the life

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and the visits that they have, that has been hard and inshallah

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I'm just asking everybody to share this campaign share this actual

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YouTube podcast, and get as many people to be behind this project,

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because that's another book Inshallah, that we all need to

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have in our homes very, very soon. Very good. Very good. Before we

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get to the specific work, and specifically China, let's talk a

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little bit of philosophy because art is never separated from

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thought and artists are reflections of essentially

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philosophers, they are philosophers is the best ones

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always have a lot.

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A lot more under like the iceberg a lot more under the water than is

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above.

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We find that the wherever to sow wolf has been, there has been an

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aesthetic. Is it a coincidence? Or is it intentional? Or is it a

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natural byproduct? Like look at the Ottomans? How amazing were

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they even? Let's go way back. The the conception of the Dome of the

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Rock until today is one of the most elegant, simple, the color

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scheme, the geometry right of it. It's one of the most amazing

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pieces until today. So wherever Muslims have gone and have tapped

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into their spiritual tradition,

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and of course blessed with some wealth.

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There has been a wonderful aesthetic. So could you my first

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question is going to be is it a link or is

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Is it a coincidence? The second follow up question is going to be

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if it's actually a link, what are some of the themes that are

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beliefs? And regarding the cosmos? How do they manifest in art?

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Is that to me? Yes.

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Yes. That's a really good question to ask. I just, I just been to his

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Pakistan and I waited to go to Pakistan, longer than I waited to

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get to China.

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But it's really interesting in in Bukhara, there are seven

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Naqshbandi shacks. And it's era, you can visit that. And the last

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one is checking our span, the famous check match band, but each

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one of them was ahead of a guild of one of the arts. So one was in

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charge of ceramics. One was embroidery. And from them, those

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all those arts flowered incredibly, and that's why was

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Becca Stan is so rich today, you know, it's phenomenal. And I think

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it's, I don't know, just from a personal point of view, I think

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someone that's an an artist is, is tapping into their creative

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energy. And it's very important, we need to be creative people. And

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it's very easy in modern life to become negative. But I think, you

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know, and I don't think everybody should be an artist, but even if

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you do something, for a hobby, that enables you to be creative,

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that's that's a great thing. And it's all it's all connected to

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spirituality, because creativity comes from the Creator, and his,

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you know, influence. You know, we have to recognize where it comes

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from creativity is not from us. It come through us. So that's a huge

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philosophical point right there, that creativity is not something

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that you that you come up with, it's actually you position

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yourself to be able to receive, it's almost like an in him in a

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sense, yes, you have to get out of the way almost, you have to get

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yourself out of the way and you have to be submitted to the race.

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And that makes sense. Because when you look at some of the geometrics

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of the Marvel movies, like that's not something anyone sat there

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thought of, there must have been some kind of, and if for those who

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are wondering, are you serious? You're saying the arts? Have a

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lamb to them? Yes, there did not the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa

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salam tell. The poet has said Ben sabots, recite, in other words, to

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give victory to Allah and his messenger recite, and your aidid

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with the Holy Spirit, which is Djibouti, la Santa Barbara goods.

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And that's too. So when the intention is to aggrandized as

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Allah says, In the Quran, aggrandized the symbols of Allah

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masajid like, what are these artists aggrandizing their

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aggrandizing massage, they're not doing this in their homes, their

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grandmother, masajid schools, books, the illuminations around

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books. So let me let me ask this question. Now. That's an amazing,

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that's an amazing point, that creativity is from the Creator.

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And the Muslim artists views himself as somebody who has

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purification allows that

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creative power from Allah to reflect off of him. He's not the

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founder of it, or the inventor of it.

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When that actually occurs, there have to be certain actual themes.

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One of the themes I noticed in Islamic art is that there's a

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centrality to every piece.

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Whereas when I go to when you look at some of the more modern art,

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when atheism started taking over, you lose centrality. It's as if

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they believe they live in a floating universe that has no

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central position. And sometimes nothing there is not there's

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there's the intentional opposition to thematic anything such as

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Dolly, Omar, why don't you get us a picture of Dolly here because

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contrast is very important. Right? Dolly? Is someone

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Dolly?

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Not doll II that this is this this open AI generation? Dolly is he's

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an artist, who, if you look at his stuff, to me, it reflects the

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reality of atheism. Right? What do you think of this concept that the

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centrality themes you know, human faces are?

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Even

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are those some of the themes that you notice that Islamic art

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possesses?

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I think if you think about art, turned in 50 years ago, it was

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celebrating God.

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Very much in a time where it's all about the ego and the self. It's

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all in doing with celebrating yourself. Subhan Allah Subhan

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Allah

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I mean, I get this, this image of

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dollar here and it's it really is a great reflection of nihilism

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a lack of meaning and a lack of any theme.

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And it makes you a little bit dizzy, even looking at it like you

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don't know what you're looking at when it comes to Islamic art what

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is what is some of your favorite themes or some of your favorite

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civilizations?

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I think I was very influenced by the pre-raphaelite movement which

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was in the Victorian period that it was it was at the point that

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painting was transferring into photography and so it was very

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light photography. But those that pre alpha lights traveled to the

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Middle East and went to Jerusalem and they were very influenced by

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what what they saw there so I think that had an effect on me

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when you produce something is there

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the is the Moroccan

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aesthetic dominant or is the Ottoman aesthetic dominant in your

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mind?

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It's interesting question

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probably the Moroccan I've kind of because Moroccan was but I grew up

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learning my Islam and you know, those experiences that you've read

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about and meetings and mountains happened in and in Morocco, I did

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have I did meet incredible people from Turkey as well. And they were

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in as many of them were, and in fact, a lot of them I couldn't

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photograph during that time.

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So Rocco was more easily for me to document and I think around city

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mon Habib there was such a spectrum of people, rich and poor,

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and he knows scholars, fuck years.

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tradesmen, you know?

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Yeah, there was amazing variety of people around him, it was very, it

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was a very interesting thing for me to observe.

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We've been reading your book for a while now, on this live stream,

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and imagining what it would be like to meet some of these odia

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who lived and we know that there are only

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there will always be only up but pre modern Alia

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the pre modern Muslim period is somebody is something that you

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experienced that many of us did not.

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Everyone that we meet today has known what a cell phone is knows

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the garbage that we live in. It's a different feeling to go to

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travel from the modern from modern Europe, to Morocco, Algeria, these

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places and meet people who have never been touched by the

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corruption. Could you tell us how does it feel when you sit in front

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of such people and talk to such people?

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You have to remember I went to Morocco after being in India for

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seven months. And I arrived that Zoey of cinnamon happy is very

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stark place. And I met the fucker and they were very majestic, not

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what I was used to in India. And I remember thinking, I think I made

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a mistake. But then when I got to know them, and really, their

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hearts opened up, just Majesty was all on the outside inwardly they

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were beautiful souls really and it was really a different experience

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than I had in India.

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Spirituality as I've often said, on this live stream is not only

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one way there, we believe there is there there's a spirituality of

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light, and there's a spirituality of darkness. And but there's

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they're both rejecters of the material side and are trying to

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tap into something spiritual. So just because something spiritual

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does not necessarily mean that it's, it's correct, or innocent.

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So what I'd like to ask you is what did you notice as an

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objective you know, you're someone who's not a Muslim yet and you've

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seen Hindus spiritualists then you see Muslim spiritualist. Well,

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what were some of the major contrasts in your mind at that

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time?

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I mean, I'm not I'm not denying that I didn't meet genuine people

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in India, but I think

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meeting city mom had been because he's the reference point really

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was that it was very different. I was not sure what, you know,

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people spoke about him as being in Santa Clara was the perfect human

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being. So I really didn't know what to expect when I ascended

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those stairs to meet him

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But as soon as I entered that room was very, it's kind of beyond

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words, really. I mean, it was like stepping into an ocean. And

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I felt nothing but compassion and mercy from him. There was no

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judgment going on zero judgment. He accepted me for who I was. And

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I mentioned in the book, he's one of the things after we were

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introduced to one another, he said to me, now you have two Imams or

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two guides, Satan, Isa, Jesus and Muhammad salah.

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You know, the more I think about that he didn't separate me from

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what I came from he joined in. And that's really important. Subhan

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Allah was inside as a continuation.

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At this point in your life, were you a photographer at this point?

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Yes, I've been a photographer for

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over 36 years. Okay, so your, your, your entire life, your

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entire career essentially, has been a photographer, there's not

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something that you just merely picked up

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later on. So can if we can shift a little bit to the technical career

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of the photographer, okay. You, you, you've been through

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one of the most important period periods of photography. And now

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you're entering, we're entering now into a war for photographers,

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right? So first, the photographer was somebody who was a very unique

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person in the society knew how to develop these pictures, buy

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expensive cameras go out to these places that were risky to go to.

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Yeah, time passes. And now everyone has a phone and is taking

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their own photography, more time passes, everyone's correcting

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their pictures, more time passes. And AI is now challenging the

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whole field.

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So can you talk about your life as a photographer and your career as

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a photographer? notable moments challenges, etc. Yeah, I mean,

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it's a known fact that I started my career in the music business,

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the, you know, the 1960s. With all those kinds of people were now

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icons in, in that kind of genre. At that time, it was just what was

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happening. And I was part of the Cultural Revolution, at that time,

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was very anti war movement. People were

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there was a lot of material, materialism, growing in that

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period of time, people very shellshock from World War Two in

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the west and was expecting World War Three any minute. So you know,

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I grew up in that environment, the P or they call the peace and love

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movement grew out of that, as a kind of reaction against it. And a

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way of people coming together like minded people. And so that, that

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culture in that period had a big effect on me. And eventually,

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towards the end of the 60s,

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I became interested to

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go deeper into myself and find out what was the purpose? Why was I

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here? Who am I, you know, these questions that you need to ask

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yourself, and I think that's what took me on my journey to India.

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And I spent seven months in India, traveling around taking pictures,

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but also looking at different religions and understanding,

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trying to understand them,

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as well as I could. And I read a bit about Islam when I was there.

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And I, you know, I came across mosques, in my travels, I visited

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them. So it was just kind of it was part of what I was looking at,

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as an angel, as I said, as it came back to England, and reconnected

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with my own life. And then suddenly I met, you know,

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musicians who become Muslim. So, what did this mean to my journey?

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So really, it was a kind of leap of faith. In the end, various

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things happen, various dreams and things, and I just, it was purely

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a leap of faith. I didn't know that much about Islam, other than

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Islam accepted, all the prophets believed in one God, this is what

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I always believed in. So my photography just carried on really

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following my own interests. And, you know, I took the cameras to

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India, and took pictures for seven months and then became a Muslim

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went to Morocco. It just continued, and I would just

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photograph the people that I met in the Zarya there.

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I didn't, there wasn't a kind of intention, and the idea of about

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the book wasn't even there. Then

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I was documenting them. And I still was learning photography. I

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mean, I've now I'm a self taught photographer, I never studied it.

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So it's

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in between these trips,

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To the Elia what kind of photography were you involved in

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more like nature? Obviously not war photography, but

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what kind of photography Did you did you do in travel really just

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traveled documenting bases I went to, and I was fortunate enough and

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those early days to sell my pictures to publishers and stuff,

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and that's how I survive. Very good. Very good. So let's now

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shift over to the current project, you traveled over to China. And

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tell us first of all, how would a Muslim What was your connection?

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Did you know people? Fish, practically? How did how did that

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happen?

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So if I go back, way over 50 years 1971 becoming a muslim and then

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discovering that there were Muslims in China and Russia. Like,

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at that time? How is that possible? At that time, everyone

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just thought Muslims came from the Middle East. If you're a bit more

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knowledgeable, you know, they came from the Far East, but China. And

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so I became kind of really I wanted to know them. I wanted,

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what was their Islam was like, and that stayed with me. And he

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couldn't go to China at that time. And it took me until

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2000 2000, when China was just starting to open up. And there was

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a Muslim lady doing tours to China, Muslim China. So I went,

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and I had an incredible taster of what what was there. And then I

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met

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100 in my, I'm sure many of your listeners know him. He's very

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famous he. He's a Chinese calligrapher. And he's one of the

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few Chinese calligraphy to actually study Arabic.

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So the some of the Chinese photographer, sorry,

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calligraphers, they haven't actually studied Arabic. So

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sometimes you might find mistakes in them, but he knows Arabic

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really well. And he's Yes. And we met in England. And I told him

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about that he wanted to do a project about Muslims in China.

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And he said, if you get yourself to China, I will look after you

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and take you to meet them. And we did

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three trips together, one of which we went from Beijing, all the way

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to Cashcall. And back again, so we went from one side of China, and

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all the way back again, now went right into western China, which,

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unfortunately, you couldn't do now. But I went right into that

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area. So that is the Uighur Easter. Hey, Omar, can we get

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to see where we're at here? So you did have experience with the

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Uyghurs? Yeah, I met a lot of them. And you know, that they're

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Muslims everywhere in China.

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A lot of them don't have Muslim names because of during Chairman

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Mao's time they were persecuted. So a lot of them kept their Islam

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but they went underground. So often you meet somebody who's very

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Chinese, and then when he knows you're Muslim, so I'm a Muslim. I

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don't have a Muslim name.

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And so this whole journey began to unfold. And we went into to search

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how Islam came there so long ago in the seventh century, which is

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fascinating. You know, I mean, they they say, the first person to

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go there was sight, even Abby was one of the 10, who was guaranteed

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paradise. Why was he chosen to go I mean, he is an extraordinary

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person, if you find out about him, incredible. And he was respected

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for who He was. And he was given permission from the tang emperor

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to build their places of worship, and dress as they wish and use

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their own language. They were so clever, those people, they didn't

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create an alien culture. They built places of worship that look

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like the Confucian temples or the Taoist temples. So they integrated

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very easily, very quickly. And this is what is really I find

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important because I do feel the whole approach to the Western

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world, which is what Islam has always been seemed very alien.

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Yeah, it's not embraced. Whereas in China, they were so clever, it

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was embraced. Even we understand even the Ming Emperor embraced

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Islam, and he wrote this incredible 100 word poem in

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praise, province, Islam, and it's in my book, I had it re

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translated, because I wasn't happy with the translation and Dr.

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Murata very kindly read translated it for us, and it's beautiful. I

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learned so much just from that poem.

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So, when you went to China, you said you went to is it pronounced

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Zhang Jiang

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St. Xiang province.

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Yeah.

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I went to the west. Yes. And on the east side, where did you go?

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So I started in Beijing in Xiang. All the places I went down the

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southeastern coast, which is where se W. Walker says, well, that's

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quite a hike. That's what a seven hour flight.

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No, we, we went by Boston train, I described it or it took me 10 days

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to get there 10 days, so you got to see the whole country, which

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makes sense. If you're gonna go to China and you have time, you want

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to be able to see the entire landscape, you're not gonna see

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the whole thing, but at least you go. You want to cross from East

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all the way to west, to go to down south east coast, where the first

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Masdar, then we went right across within planes and cars and right

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all the way to Kashkari. And that must be excited though, it must

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have been exciting. And, you know, when something point that wherever

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Muslims have gone, the traditional culture just stayed as it is,

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right. And one, one thing I think about is that, more likely that

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this wasn't necessarily something planned and plotted Alright, let's

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make Islam in their culture. Rather, what it is, is probably

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the fact that Islam is a religion of common people. And those people

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who then built the mosques and the clothes, they didn't know anything

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else.

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Right? So they said, Alright, we're gonna would build a mosque,

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let's just build it looking the only way we know how to build.

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Yeah, right, which is one of the beauties of Islam is that more

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likely than not, and I'm like, 90% Confident.

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There's very few big master plans. Just Islam spreads and the regular

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people do their thing. Yeah. Right. There's no master plan. And

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when you look at the Prophet sallallahu, it was Sunday, where

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is the master plan to spread Islam? There isn't. It's just

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advice to regular people. And because it's true, it settles in

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the hearts of normal people. And so it's they were going to

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dominate and there is more normal people then, you know, big

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planners and thinkers? Yes. So in the end, at the end of the day, it

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just takes on the form that they're accustomed to. Right. And

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that's why it settles in these lands.

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Do we want to now start looking at some of these pictures or

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let's, let's take a look at this video first. Bismillah.

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Okay, no problem.

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In the pre modern world, China represented the furthest frontier,

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and through the prophetic saying became a symbol for Muslims of the

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search for knowledge. I grew up as a child fascinated by Chinese

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culture. It just seems such an amazing place so far away the

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Great Wall of China, everything about it really fascinated me. And

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then in very early 1970s, I heard there were Chinese Muslims and

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this like, how is it possible? How can there be Muslims in China and

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Russia was just so curious and I really wanted to meet them. But at

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that time, you couldn't go to China, and it took me 30 years

00:33:19 --> 00:33:23

until China has started to open up. For over half a century

00:33:23 --> 00:33:27

celebrated photographer Peter Sanders has traveled the length

00:33:27 --> 00:33:32

and breadth of the Muslim world to capture its rich and variegated

00:33:32 --> 00:33:40

civilization unified by faith. Between the year 2020 12 Peter

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made four journeys to photograph Islam in China, three with the

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famed calligrapher * nurudeen Knee one Jian

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it out when a woman geocache Allah tiga days are only an insane year

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round today don't allow me to join your lecture Mr Daniela.

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China was still opening up at that period, so it wasn't very

00:34:35 --> 00:34:41

modernized in the last 25 years it's changed for recognition

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were terrible through our Tom, shall we? Shall we the bar, Qi Lu

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Hoppel draw drum voice and I'm Ha Jin ping result. I believe that

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this book is really important. Because the way that Islam went to

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China, such a long time ago, they were judged by them moral code,

00:35:56 --> 00:36:02

their honesty, their incredible good nature. And I think that

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taught me a lot about the way Islam is presented in the western

00:36:06 --> 00:36:11

world is always seen as something alien and not something that

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should be embraced. And I think that really is the big lesson from

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this project and what I learned there.

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Heaven, Earth and the 10,000 things, is an astonishing work of

00:36:26 --> 00:36:30

art by our greatest living photographer, he has put his heart

00:36:30 --> 00:36:35

and soul into this work, making great sacrifices, physically and

00:36:35 --> 00:36:40

financially, crossing the vastness of this ancient land, to leave a

00:36:40 --> 00:36:45

record for posterity of the Muslim people of China. But he needs your

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rest of the world. Please help us complete the design, printing and

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Hello, beautiful imagery there. Let's talk about the title, Heaven

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Earth and 10,000 things. What was the inspiration behind that?

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You know, the Chinese have this conception that 10,000 Things is

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every created thing. And so it's like as if the largest number

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was really to

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adopt their kind of philosophy. What I didn't say earlier was

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during during the Ming Dynasty, there were two giant, great

00:37:47 --> 00:37:48

Chinese Muslim scholars,

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Wang Daiyu and Leos Z. And they got together and they decided

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there was no way they could teach Islam to the Chinese unless they

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studied Buddhism, Confucianism and Taoism.

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And then they said the Chinese don't understand Arabic. So then

00:38:11 --> 00:38:16

they develop this kind of language based on the Confucian way of

00:38:16 --> 00:38:22

describing the ultimate reality. So they would they use,

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God was the most high and most real.

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Prophets were referred to as sages to the Prophet says lamb was the

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great sage around was called the great classic.

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They didn't they didn't. They didn't have a word for Eman. So it

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was called, like a clear light.

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Jeep. They developed this whole language and then so the Chinese

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didn't see Islam as a threat was a question of what they already

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believe. And during that period, that's when Islam really grounded

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and spread. Yeah, I saw some of the pictures there. There are some

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ancient masajid too. Yes, the oldest one is in Guangzhou. And

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it was first called the lion temple. Now why was it called the

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lion temple? The descriptions of say, I'd be workers was that he

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was dark skinned, they are a flat nose and he had a halo of hair

00:39:20 --> 00:39:24

like a lion. Subhanallah they used to refer to him as the lion in the

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den.

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Originally called the lion, Temple, subhanAllah, Jeep, Jeep.

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And do they is that community from when that Masjid was established?

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Islam has always been in that area, right? Yeah. So that's a

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community that's transmitted. And probably we could say with more

00:39:43 --> 00:39:48

confidence than not that it's a full transmission of lineage down

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because that area is not a place of migration, right? No, it was it

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was during that period, it was one of the maritime ports.

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And so that's been how they came

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in mind, they either came across land or they came by boat

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Subhanallah it's a problem. What about those children? Yeah, what

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were they singing there are theirs were they singing something that

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was like poetry written by Chinese Muslims or were they singing

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something from it was singing Quran this was on my first trip, I

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got taken to this Madras and she and one of the ancient cities in

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China, one of the key cities and they went to this Madras and they

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said, Just be patient, the children were getting ready. And

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they appeared as you see them in that photo. And then they started

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to recite Quran.

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Okay, so part Allah, and then singing the songs. And

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I remember thinking at a time, this must have been the spirit of

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Medina.

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Islam so thinking that I can go Now I've seen everything this is

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this.

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So far subhanaw taala. That was that was an amazing picture that

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there firstly, that the fact that it's still alive teaching children

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Quran is still alive. Right. And I wonder what the status is now is

00:41:09 --> 00:41:12

continuing in mainland China. Are they still allowed to do this?

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Yes, I think I think it's just in western China. It's, it's, it's a

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problem. And I think

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St. Chang always wanted autonomy, which of course the Chinese won't

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give them. Yeah, they're all their gas reserves there and things. And

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I think there's always been a tension there. And I think

00:41:34 --> 00:41:38

extremists went in there. And it's my understanding, they stir things

00:41:38 --> 00:41:43

up and caused a big problem for them, for the Muslims, but we need

00:41:43 --> 00:41:48

to pray that things will calm down. And for those who aren't

00:41:48 --> 00:41:52

aware, Western China was known as Western China was actually an

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independent country, and called East Turkestan. And their flag is

00:41:57 --> 00:42:02

the crescent moon on a Carolina blue flag. Those are the Uighur

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people, there are not even Chinese. Yeah. And their country

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has been like brutally taken over. Yeah. And their people have been

00:42:11 --> 00:42:12

brutally treated.

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You can imagine some of the things that come out of there such as

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forced eating and Ramadan. Sometimes prisoners, political

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prisoners are used for

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or for their organs. Right.

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All sorts of

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really like crimes against humanity that are occurring to the

00:42:37 --> 00:42:41

people out to the Uyghurs. And again, it's East Turkistan. It's a

00:42:41 --> 00:42:44

whole nother country by itself. They have their whole history,

00:42:44 --> 00:42:47

tradition, everything. And this started to happen, what, just

00:42:47 --> 00:42:49

maybe, what, 3040 years ago that

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that their country has been taken over and essentially used in

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whatever way they have been not just not sweatshops, but they have

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what are they even worse than that? happening over there.

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And you have to remember when I went to that I haven't been back

00:43:08 --> 00:43:12

since all this person. I have no firsthand witness. But yeah, good

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when I when was was incredible. You see from the photos on the

00:43:16 --> 00:43:22

other side, it was like, like, captured. And that's what I fell

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in love with. And really, I mean, to find all these historical

00:43:26 --> 00:43:27

places really

00:43:28 --> 00:43:30

incredible and

00:43:31 --> 00:43:34

but they are very different to the way Muslims with the central

00:43:35 --> 00:43:40

Chinese Muslims are different in nature. The we, Muslims from

00:43:40 --> 00:43:46

Central China have very calm and different energy. Tell us about

00:43:47 --> 00:43:51

sorry, go ahead. But I'm just saying they're all Muslims. And no

00:43:51 --> 00:43:55

one knows the true number. How many SubhanAllah? Because like 200

00:43:55 --> 00:43:57

million 50 million. I mean, we just

00:44:00 --> 00:44:03

are Muslims mainly centered in one area? Or did they get east?

00:44:04 --> 00:44:08

They're all over really, all over? That's a false idea that they're

00:44:08 --> 00:44:10

just in the West. They're all over this

00:44:11 --> 00:44:18

province in central China connect Shia, very, very wealthy, full of

00:44:18 --> 00:44:22

Muslims who actually, you know, businesses and quiet in desperate

00:44:23 --> 00:44:29

and not so poor as a lot of Chinese Muslims. Do you do look at

00:44:29 --> 00:44:33

it the way people some people look at America, like after 911 In

00:44:33 --> 00:44:37

America, the Iraq War, Afghan war, people think that going to

00:44:37 --> 00:44:40

America, you could be arrested at any time just for being a Muslim.

00:44:40 --> 00:44:43

We have that conception of China because of the Uyghur crisis.

00:44:43 --> 00:44:50

Yeah. And the communism too. Yeah. No, it's nice. You know, and even

00:44:50 --> 00:44:54

in the next year, the government is helping restore old mosques and

00:44:54 --> 00:44:59

things so it is primarily linked to Asiana. So

00:45:00 --> 00:45:04

The communism didn't cancel out faith across the board. It didn't

00:45:04 --> 00:45:08

succeed in doing that. Well, I don't think it's I think it makes

00:45:08 --> 00:45:10

Muslims stronger. I saw that.

00:45:12 --> 00:45:16

So let's can hold on to that faith, even when we're under a lot

00:45:16 --> 00:45:17

of

00:45:18 --> 00:45:22

you know, even Jerome, Chairman Mao's time they really suffered in

00:45:22 --> 00:45:26

credit credible during that time. But God is wise, you know, I mean,

00:45:26 --> 00:45:29

they will move into this really sparse place.

00:45:31 --> 00:45:34

They discovered there was this thing that Chinese love called

00:45:34 --> 00:45:37

Chinese moss and it grew in that area as the Muslims favorite

00:45:38 --> 00:45:43

veggie, because this is wisdom, you know, and when did they use

00:45:43 --> 00:45:47

what do they use Chinese most for? I don't know. I think it's a

00:45:47 --> 00:45:48

delicacy and China's

00:45:52 --> 00:45:56

the cover of your book? Yeah, these what? Masjid is that on the

00:45:56 --> 00:46:00

right. Yeah, so that's in Ningxia province. That was you know, I

00:46:00 --> 00:46:06

would say that's one of my favorites. So beautiful. I just, I

00:46:06 --> 00:46:10

spent hours in there and it was just as green and blue and gold

00:46:10 --> 00:46:12

and you can see the imam in Islam

00:46:14 --> 00:46:19

is just so Chinese and that's the point about that then not Chinese

00:46:19 --> 00:46:24

became Arabs, their Chinese became Muslims Subhan Allah, some project

00:46:25 --> 00:46:32

and the calligraphy they did merge also the Arabic into using the

00:46:32 --> 00:46:37

Chinese brush. Exactly. Yeah. So that's how much Snowden does all

00:46:37 --> 00:46:42

his work. Yeah. And you know, he does. He does like six foot pieces

00:46:42 --> 00:46:47

using a giant brush somehow muslin cloth wrapped and he stands over

00:46:47 --> 00:46:52

it and he does like ya Rahim is one continuous stroke Subhan

00:46:52 --> 00:46:52

Allah.

00:46:53 --> 00:46:58

So for those who aren't very familiar with calligraphy the

00:46:58 --> 00:47:03

Arabs use a they Westerners you could say they use a slit read a

00:47:03 --> 00:47:08

cut read with a slipknot. Yeah, the Moroccans they don't use a

00:47:08 --> 00:47:13

slit cut read they use a ballpoint read. Right, they don't have a

00:47:13 --> 00:47:18

slant on the read. The Chinese are using a brush, right? And that's

00:47:18 --> 00:47:23

what gives that now I also know that they also use the bamboo they

00:47:23 --> 00:47:27

use a bamboo burrito. Why pens? Yeah, a very wide slit

00:47:29 --> 00:47:34

wraps it in Maslin. So solve a lot of ink so you can do this. That's

00:47:34 --> 00:47:37

what that's what it is. The book is funded this work. I mean, when

00:47:37 --> 00:47:38

you see the book is

00:47:39 --> 00:47:43

Tony, with his his beautiful work. And this.

00:47:44 --> 00:47:46

So this the cover of the book here.

00:47:47 --> 00:47:53

Is that the one picture all the way across? Yeah. Okay, because I

00:47:53 --> 00:47:56

thought there was actually a cut picture that was one portion on

00:47:56 --> 00:47:58

the right, one portion on the left, so that's a

00:48:01 --> 00:48:05

that's it front of the mosque. Subhanallah so in comparison to

00:48:06 --> 00:48:08

you, we could see the Imam standing there, that piece of

00:48:08 --> 00:48:12

calligraphy on the left is probably five foot four, five by

00:48:12 --> 00:48:15

five. Yeah, right. Subhanallah

00:48:17 --> 00:48:21

their mosques are so beautiful, really their works of art. Yeah.

00:48:21 --> 00:48:25

Keep them meticulously clean. They're always polishing moments

00:48:25 --> 00:48:25

sweeping.

00:48:27 --> 00:48:28

And there that

00:48:29 --> 00:48:35

is that's the main rub when he gives a football. Yes. Is Member

00:48:36 --> 00:48:40

actually the nephron is actually further on. Sean

00:48:44 --> 00:48:49

I know this not necessarily related to the visual arts, but

00:48:49 --> 00:48:51

what about the culinary arts?

00:48:54 --> 00:48:59

Islamic the Sharia and the Chinese tradition of eating, you know, the

00:48:59 --> 00:49:05

foods are very much more limited. So when you spent time there

00:49:06 --> 00:49:09

did you find a lot of you know, Muslim restaurants Did you just

00:49:09 --> 00:49:14

eat vegetarian? What? What did you do? I'm a vegetarian anyway. And

00:49:14 --> 00:49:16

Chinese food was really a shock for me.

00:49:17 --> 00:49:22

Well traveled but China was real shock for me. But the thing is the

00:49:22 --> 00:49:26

Muslims, because the food Hello food is so important for them.

00:49:26 --> 00:49:29

They've gone into the whole business. So you'll find a lot of

00:49:30 --> 00:49:35

products that have halau symbols on so as long as you find the

00:49:35 --> 00:49:37

Muslims, you can find a lot of food and

00:49:38 --> 00:49:41

you might have to indulge in some of the more Stranger Things that

00:49:41 --> 00:49:45

the Chinese eats. It's interesting because

00:49:47 --> 00:49:52

China and India are polar opposites in their cuisines right.

00:49:53 --> 00:49:57

Near the end, it's probably easier to go to a permissive country and

00:49:57 --> 00:49:59

limit your diet than to go to a country where you

00:50:00 --> 00:50:03

I think beef is a crime. slaughtering a cow. I believe in

00:50:03 --> 00:50:07

some of the states is a crime actually slaughter a cow. So

00:50:08 --> 00:50:13

probably easier in that respect. Yeah, sure Allah, masha Allah. Now

00:50:13 --> 00:50:20

tell us about the the nature of the project itself. There was a,

00:50:20 --> 00:50:24

there was a call for it. Are we is there a link? Is there a launch?

00:50:24 --> 00:50:27

Good LinkedIn you could share? Yeah.

00:50:29 --> 00:50:32

Now it looks like the content is all there the graphic designs are

00:50:32 --> 00:50:36

there the Yeah, the guts are all done. Just been planning on this,

00:50:36 --> 00:50:40

which is, we're actually at the first steps of going to press even

00:50:40 --> 00:50:44

though I haven't raised all the money, but I just I need to do it.

00:50:44 --> 00:50:47

I need to get this book out now. Because the next step is to do a

00:50:47 --> 00:50:52

Chinese version of it. Oh, wow. That'd be great. That'd be great.

00:50:52 --> 00:50:55

So for everybody that's watching and benefit go to

00:50:55 --> 00:50:58

launchcode.com/muslims in China.

00:51:01 --> 00:51:03

Okay, we have we're seeing why don't we you come on and tell us

00:51:03 --> 00:51:07

about the physical logistics of getting this book out. The

00:51:07 --> 00:51:12

artists, they do their think that they need the seams of the world

00:51:12 --> 00:51:17

to get it to trickle down to the to the world in a physically so it

00:51:17 --> 00:51:18

will seem tell us about this.

00:51:20 --> 00:51:25

So I don't know about yourselves. But for every time I listen to a

00:51:25 --> 00:51:29

city of zoom, tell about this story about China. It really helps

00:51:29 --> 00:51:31

me motivates me, firstly,

00:51:33 --> 00:51:36

thinking that this needs to be told to as many places as

00:51:36 --> 00:51:39

possible. So that helps to ignite the fuel when I'm trying to

00:51:39 --> 00:51:43

connect to as many communities as possible. So as I said, as you

00:51:43 --> 00:51:44

mentioned, we are in Sharla.

00:51:46 --> 00:51:49

When I've trusted Alice mattala And we've got the terracotta

00:51:49 --> 00:51:51

Inshallah, we will be launching the book at the profit Literature

00:51:51 --> 00:51:55

Festival, we are currently in the middle of pushing our logical

00:51:55 --> 00:51:59

campaign out. So we need as many people to listen to this campaign,

00:52:00 --> 00:52:03

listen to the message in the stories and why so the zine, spent

00:52:03 --> 00:52:07

his time out in China and why it's so important and having looked at

00:52:07 --> 00:52:09

that particular region, it's all about timing, I think that we had

00:52:09 --> 00:52:14

this conversation with the house, where the story of the Chinese

00:52:14 --> 00:52:19

Muslims and Islamic China will have a huge impact, especially on

00:52:19 --> 00:52:22

us Muslims in the West, when you look at how they were really

00:52:22 --> 00:52:27

indigenized in their culture, and how do we fused into the original

00:52:27 --> 00:52:30

culture or that land, and really became one with that. And so

00:52:30 --> 00:52:34

there's so many lessons that we can take from the Chinese Muslims

00:52:34 --> 00:52:37

and the history. And so just by sitting for a couple of hours and

00:52:37 --> 00:52:42

listening to him, help to shape my better understanding of Islamic

00:52:42 --> 00:52:45

China. So now, what's our responsibility as communities

00:52:45 --> 00:52:50

around the world, we need to connect this message to as many

00:52:50 --> 00:52:54

communities, schools, madrasahs universities, so we start telling

00:52:54 --> 00:52:57

the story and owning the narrative, especially when it

00:52:57 --> 00:52:59

comes to Islamic China. And I think this book is really going to

00:52:59 --> 00:53:04

be one of the key words that's going to help to shape the

00:53:04 --> 00:53:08

understanding in the West, about Islam in China, especially with

00:53:08 --> 00:53:11

someone who's traveled for a number of occasions, and actually

00:53:11 --> 00:53:15

seen the country firsthand. And we obviously know the track record of

00:53:15 --> 00:53:19

symbolism and the work in the standard that he his output is in

00:53:19 --> 00:53:21

this field of photography. So we're not going to expect anything

00:53:21 --> 00:53:24

but excellence in that so and some of the pictures that we've seen,

00:53:25 --> 00:53:27

I'm sure that Omar will share afterwards, you saw in the video,

00:53:28 --> 00:53:31

they are absolutely tremendous. When you see the actual details of

00:53:31 --> 00:53:34

the Chinese Muslim, and how they put together the Masters in

00:53:34 --> 00:53:37

architecture, it's really all inspiring, I will look back and we

00:53:37 --> 00:53:42

think that this was 678 900 years ago, and look at the level of

00:53:42 --> 00:53:45

sophistication and coach that they were operating at now. It's very

00:53:45 --> 00:53:48

difficult, especially in the last couple of years first to be able

00:53:48 --> 00:53:52

to replicate something of that nature. So I think this is untold

00:53:52 --> 00:53:55

story. And I think with this unique opportunity through again,

00:53:55 --> 00:53:59

the journey of self love Jean Valjean out in China. And so we

00:53:59 --> 00:54:01

are going to launch the book at the literary festival. And then we

00:54:01 --> 00:54:04

aim to get this book out to as many other communities across the

00:54:04 --> 00:54:09

UK thereafter, as well. But like I said, we're not holding back, we

00:54:09 --> 00:54:13

want to then produce this book, also in Chinese. So we've raised

00:54:13 --> 00:54:17

up to nearly 58,000 pounds at the moment, we need to get to 100,000

00:54:18 --> 00:54:21

Ideally as soon as possible, so that we can print, publish and get

00:54:21 --> 00:54:24

the work out as soon as possible in the communities. And then the

00:54:24 --> 00:54:28

intention would be to once we've launched it so then people who've

00:54:28 --> 00:54:31

studied that, who spend time in China, then educate within their

00:54:31 --> 00:54:35

homes, black communities, and get the message of Islam in China

00:54:35 --> 00:54:38

other so that's the aim is a grassroots project where we as a

00:54:38 --> 00:54:42

community need to come together and help our dear elder to raise

00:54:42 --> 00:54:45

the funds so that we can print, publish the book and get it out to

00:54:45 --> 00:54:48

as many people as possible. And this platform again, thank you Dr.

00:54:48 --> 00:54:51

Shadi and the team for hosting us and has given us a platform to

00:54:51 --> 00:54:54

come here and share a little bit about this project. But I think

00:54:54 --> 00:54:59

once you have more of the stories from the team, and some of the app

00:55:00 --> 00:55:02

So the journey that they went through personally and the

00:55:02 --> 00:55:05

sacrifices that they've made to produce this book, I think it's

00:55:05 --> 00:55:08

really important as the best minimum that we have to support

00:55:09 --> 00:55:12

with our donations with our charity with our support

00:55:12 --> 00:55:15

financially, and then to also amplify inequities. And so that's

00:55:15 --> 00:55:18

my ask everybody. Inshallah, I'm inspired by that. And I'm just

00:55:18 --> 00:55:21

asking as many of my friends and friends and people who are

00:55:21 --> 00:55:24

watching this stream afterwards to please, to share in your

00:55:24 --> 00:55:27

platforms, on your social media in your networks, and just get as

00:55:27 --> 00:55:30

many people to support us and help us get this project over the line,

00:55:30 --> 00:55:33

so that we can launch it at the festival and then get as many

00:55:33 --> 00:55:38

communities as possible. Remember, what sagen what festival was it at

00:55:38 --> 00:55:41

the Bradford Literature Festival this summer. So this is a 10 year

00:55:41 --> 00:55:46

celebration. And we've had the honor to have a few programs with

00:55:46 --> 00:55:50

city ability in the past and with a meeting with mountain, an

00:55:50 --> 00:55:52

example of exemplars of our time. So this can be a unique

00:55:52 --> 00:55:56

opportunity, again, for us to get the book launched at the festival.

00:55:57 --> 00:55:59

And we're going to encourage as many people to sign up to the

00:55:59 --> 00:56:02

event was to do with a theme to reach out to myself if they're not

00:56:02 --> 00:56:06

sure about the event and to attend, participate, and then also

00:56:06 --> 00:56:09

be able to purchase the book at the event this summer, inshallah.

00:56:09 --> 00:56:12

Very good, very good. And then are you going to do a US tour?

00:56:13 --> 00:56:13

In Sharla?

00:56:15 --> 00:56:18

Welcome, I'm ready to come. I mean, California has a lot of

00:56:18 --> 00:56:24

Chinese converts. I mean, the highest concentration of Chinese

00:56:25 --> 00:56:27

immigrants came was always to California, for obvious reasons,

00:56:27 --> 00:56:28

right? They came east.

00:56:30 --> 00:56:34

Now, all right, let's get the lunch. Good on here. It says here

00:56:34 --> 00:56:41

73 out of 95k. So what's the math on that? 22 is the difference.

00:56:41 --> 00:56:44

22k. That's, that's that could be done today.

00:56:45 --> 00:56:49

So you have to match that's in dollars we're doing is pounds in

00:56:49 --> 00:56:54

the UK? pounds. So it's in the UK, it's pounds and launch good. I

00:56:54 --> 00:56:57

guess, whatever. When they discover your IP, they translate

00:56:57 --> 00:57:02

it for you. So that would be 22. US dollar 20,000. US dollar

00:57:02 --> 00:57:07

difference. And but you said that the British pound difference was a

00:57:07 --> 00:57:12

lot more so yeah. Yeah, the math here isn't my thing, as they say.

00:57:12 --> 00:57:16

Yeah. So I mean, I think in I think in UK is like 56, or

00:57:16 --> 00:57:20

whatever people give is, yeah, when we did meetings with

00:57:20 --> 00:57:25

mountains, people gave like $1. And I was so the point for me was

00:57:25 --> 00:57:29

it touch people's hearts, they got behind that project, I could never

00:57:29 --> 00:57:32

have published it, you know, meetings around and I took it to

00:57:32 --> 00:57:36

publishers. They liked it, but they just couldn't understand it.

00:57:37 --> 00:57:41

And it comes down to us. We believe in these projects, we need

00:57:41 --> 00:57:42

to make them happen.

00:57:43 --> 00:57:46

You know, confusion, confusion says a great saying it's in my

00:57:46 --> 00:57:52

book confusion said, if your aim is for two years, plant rice, if

00:57:52 --> 00:57:57

your aim is for 10 years, plant trees, your aim is for 100 years

00:57:57 --> 00:58:02

educate children, so Ha ha, gee, that's powerful. It's you know, we

00:58:02 --> 00:58:06

have to think about the next generation, that's powerful world

00:58:06 --> 00:58:09

that is really much worse than where we are now. So

00:58:10 --> 00:58:12

I'll tell you what would be a great tour.

00:58:14 --> 00:58:16

Go into the Muslim schools.

00:58:17 --> 00:58:20

Like this is something for them, you know, it's like a cultural

00:58:21 --> 00:58:24

went. And it's not just cultural. When you see that your religion

00:58:25 --> 00:58:30

that you believe in has spread halfway across the world. People

00:58:30 --> 00:58:34

have nothing to do with you. They don't share Arab culture, nothing

00:58:34 --> 00:58:34

to do with it.

00:58:35 --> 00:58:38

That's got to tell you that there's truth there. It's one of

00:58:38 --> 00:58:42

those sources of truth, not going to be the only source. But it's

00:58:42 --> 00:58:46

really powerful in the psyche of people, when you see the Dean go

00:58:46 --> 00:58:50

to all these different cultures, right? And I was like to put it

00:58:50 --> 00:58:54

like this, if you go to your own culture, and you find that your

00:58:54 --> 00:58:55

people do something odd.

00:58:56 --> 00:59:01

But you travel around the world. Like in Egypt, I saw the meeting

00:59:01 --> 00:59:03

tongues, they eat the tongue of the cow.

00:59:05 --> 00:59:09

Said, unfortunately, I come from a weird culture. That's what I said,

00:59:09 --> 00:59:09

right?

00:59:10 --> 00:59:14

You travel across the world. Native Americans, they all eat

00:59:14 --> 00:59:18

junk, right? So you're as Okay, no, I just didn't know. Right? I

00:59:18 --> 00:59:23

was ignorant one. Now if you find your culture doing something, and

00:59:23 --> 00:59:26

nobody in the world does it, then you can say you're weird, right?

00:59:26 --> 00:59:33

People are essentially the same. Yeah. And so when you're the

00:59:33 --> 00:59:38

belief in this book and this prophet, and these this Deen you

00:59:38 --> 00:59:42

find it halfway across the world. It gives a young person a sense of

00:59:42 --> 00:59:47

Oh, okay. Everyone's doing this. And everyone's been doing this

00:59:47 --> 00:59:50

because this some of these pictures are hundreds of years if

00:59:50 --> 00:59:55

not, past 1000 is sad to maybe walk us. So some of these

00:59:55 --> 00:59:59

artifacts could have been possibly over 1000 years old. Yeah, right

00:59:59 --> 00:59:59

from the

01:00:00 --> 01:00:05

Get go. Yeah. Subhan Allah. So let's Almara let me see what the

01:00:05 --> 01:00:09

launch good is because we want immediate results folks. immediate

01:00:09 --> 01:00:12

results hat. Let's see what that launch good says.

01:00:16 --> 01:00:19

All right, so there's a trickle, a trickle. And hopefully the more

01:00:19 --> 01:00:25

people hear this live stream and hear and see the imagery, hear the

01:00:25 --> 01:00:29

story behind it. We can have the honor of saying that we helped out

01:00:30 --> 01:00:35

in spreading this book because these visuals I'm telling you are

01:00:35 --> 01:00:39

extremely important. Let me tell you what else got me when I was 18

01:00:39 --> 01:00:45

years old, 17, maybe 1617 years old. You grew up Egyptians,

01:00:45 --> 01:00:46

Palestinians. That's all you see.

01:00:47 --> 01:00:51

There's Pakistanis over there. Right? And it wasn't like today a

01:00:51 --> 01:00:56

lot of Pakistanis know just a Pakistani Masjid. The food is

01:00:56 --> 01:00:58

really spicy. don't know anything about them. We just don't go

01:00:58 --> 01:00:59

there. Right?

01:01:00 --> 01:01:04

I'll tell you what it was the book understanding Islam and Muslims,

01:01:05 --> 01:01:09

which I believe is all your photography, right? And I'm like,

01:01:10 --> 01:01:16

Muslims in Africa. Turn the page on Muslims in the these countries

01:01:16 --> 01:01:19

that we now know as like the Turkic people.

01:01:20 --> 01:01:25

Tajikistan and those what, then you flip the page, and Muslims in

01:01:25 --> 01:01:29

Bosnia, or you don't even know what Bosnia, we heard the name

01:01:29 --> 01:01:30

Bosnia. I didn't know

01:01:31 --> 01:01:35

that Muslims have been there for hundreds of years. Right. This

01:01:35 --> 01:01:39

education, it really transforms a person and he's like, Okay, we got

01:01:39 --> 01:01:46

something that nobody else has. Right? You Salah anywhere in the

01:01:46 --> 01:01:49

world is the same salah? Yeah, there are Christians everywhere.

01:01:49 --> 01:01:53

Is it the same church service? I don't think so. Totally different

01:01:53 --> 01:01:57

language. I want to know, take a couple of questions. This will

01:01:57 --> 01:02:01

close out with this. That came from users on Facebook. And I

01:02:01 --> 01:02:06

asked them, What would you like me to ask, see to absolve them. And

01:02:06 --> 01:02:09

here are some of the questions that they brought forth.

01:02:10 --> 01:02:15

Okay, this first question states and asks, What is your process?

01:02:16 --> 01:02:21

What is your artistic process? She's a writer, Nadia Benedicta.

01:02:21 --> 01:02:24

Just so so I'd like to know, what is your process? How do you make

01:02:24 --> 01:02:28

the time? How do you outline? Do you go in stages systematically?

01:02:29 --> 01:02:32

And I'm assuming maybe she's saying like, Do you have a system?

01:02:32 --> 01:02:35

Or are you free flowing, whatever's going

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and producing your art? I follow my instinct all the time. I mean,

01:02:42 --> 01:02:45

I think that's photography taught me that, you know, it's all about

01:02:45 --> 01:02:50

just trusting your instincts. As I said, I'm self taught. And so I

01:02:50 --> 01:02:54

rely on my instincts a lot. And particularly with meetings and

01:02:54 --> 01:02:59

mountains, I wasn't, it wasn't, I'm not saying this is, you know,

01:02:59 --> 01:03:02

I'm saying these are all the earlier this is my own personal

01:03:02 --> 01:03:06

journey, and anybody could have their own personal journey. But

01:03:06 --> 01:03:09

these were people that really affected my life when I met them

01:03:09 --> 01:03:15

and changed me in a certain direction. And I wanted to to

01:03:15 --> 01:03:18

share it, because I think if you have a visual reference, it's

01:03:18 --> 01:03:22

easier to connect with them. And there's been so many people have

01:03:22 --> 01:03:25

told me parents, they find that children just looking at the

01:03:25 --> 01:03:30

pictures of their Alia, and what is it? What did they see? I mean,

01:03:30 --> 01:03:33

what the children see, that we don't see somehow.

01:03:35 --> 01:03:39

And it's very interesting to me the whole process.

01:03:40 --> 01:03:42

Here's a question from Mohammed Abdullah, Hassan,

01:03:44 --> 01:03:49

how did you change? What change? Did you notice in yourself? After

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meeting

01:03:51 --> 01:03:52

these odia?

01:03:55 --> 01:03:55

I think

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I'm still processing it, I think, you know, many of them agreed to

01:04:02 --> 01:04:05

let me photograph them, many of them had never been photographed

01:04:05 --> 01:04:07

before. And that

01:04:08 --> 01:04:11

helped me with what I was doing. Because in some way, it's a

01:04:11 --> 01:04:16

contradiction. You know, I'm, I'm kind of raising them up by

01:04:16 --> 01:04:19

photographing them. These are people who do want to be thought

01:04:19 --> 01:04:24

of as anything. So it's a kind of contradiction. But I think the

01:04:24 --> 01:04:28

time that we live in, needed it. So I think that's why it was

01:04:28 --> 01:04:33

allowed an hour to happen. And it took me 50 years that project, but

01:04:34 --> 01:04:39

really, that that project brought so much blessings into my life.

01:04:39 --> 01:04:42

And I could do a whole book about all the things that have come from

01:04:42 --> 01:04:43

that book, you know,

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it's amazing, I still get emails, people that have read the book and

01:04:49 --> 01:04:53

something haven't. It's such a great blessing really anything to

01:04:53 --> 01:04:56

do with those people and I just wanted to give something back

01:04:56 --> 01:04:59

because I've met them all through my whole journey and like

01:05:00 --> 01:05:05

just helped me on my own personal journey in such many, many ways.

01:05:05 --> 01:05:08

Yeah. So it was a way of me giving back. And

01:05:12 --> 01:05:15

well, this book be available in Australia

01:05:16 --> 01:05:21

will send it my wife and I do our own distribution, we will ship it

01:05:21 --> 01:05:26

anywhere. Great code book, take someone to take it. Great.

01:05:28 --> 01:05:29

Final question says,

01:05:32 --> 01:05:38

You have won, most of them land to visit, after all your travels,

01:05:39 --> 01:05:42

Morocco excluded because Morocco has a special place with you. What

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is that country? Well,

01:05:46 --> 01:05:49

because I've done the book about Muslims in China, and I am now

01:05:49 --> 01:05:53

starting to work on something in was Pakistan. I've always been

01:05:53 --> 01:05:58

fascinated by Japan. And I have an old friend of mine, Englishman who

01:05:58 --> 01:06:02

has lived in Japan for 40 years. And I did a visit there. And I saw

01:06:02 --> 01:06:05

him for a few mosques there. And

01:06:06 --> 01:06:10

he said to me, the Japanese will never accept Islam, because

01:06:10 --> 01:06:14

they've been programmed, but that's changing. And now I met an

01:06:14 --> 01:06:19

incredible Aikido master, who studied with a Japanese master.

01:06:20 --> 01:06:25

And I learned so much from him really just his understanding is

01:06:25 --> 01:06:26

very deep. And I think

01:06:28 --> 01:06:32

if we can see Islam through the Japanese eye eyes, we will get a

01:06:32 --> 01:06:35

different understanding of Islam, because there's a certain clarity

01:06:36 --> 01:06:41

that they had with Zen Buddhism, that in this time of chaos, and

01:06:41 --> 01:06:45

madness is going on in the world, we need that clarity. And I think

01:06:45 --> 01:06:49

and I already heard that there are Muslims building a wooden mosque

01:06:49 --> 01:06:55

on the traditional Japanese traditional style. I think that

01:06:55 --> 01:06:59

will be very interesting model. I can tell if God gives me time, I

01:06:59 --> 01:07:04

will do that as my next book. And that would be amazing. And the

01:07:04 --> 01:07:08

Japanese have a way of living with etiquettes and discipline that's

01:07:08 --> 01:07:13

very unique to so I would love to see what what what it would look

01:07:13 --> 01:07:17

like if that traditional discipline is still alive.

01:07:17 --> 01:07:20

Hopefully modernity doesn't destroy that. Yeah, what would

01:07:20 --> 01:07:25

happen if you poured a slam on that discipline? And you probably

01:07:25 --> 01:07:30

get some great results. Yeah, they have incredible, the Japanese

01:07:32 --> 01:07:32

people.

01:07:33 --> 01:07:37

Yeah, I think it'd be very interesting to picture that. Yeah.

01:07:38 --> 01:07:41

Hey, Omar for the thumbnail, it would be nice to put, leave that

01:07:41 --> 01:07:44

box out and leave the highlights out and just put the cover of the

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book behind it. That'd be really nice. Just that forget the box and

01:07:48 --> 01:07:49

the inset picture.

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We're seeing would you like to close off with anything?

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You know, you're muted. Okay.

01:08:02 --> 01:08:06

Yeah, just I would encourage everyone to share this podcast to

01:08:06 --> 01:08:11

everyone. Try to attend the brand Literature Festival event with the

01:08:11 --> 01:08:14

city of zoom. So you get to see this in person, I'm sure there's

01:08:14 --> 01:08:17

going to be a beautiful presentation from him there. And

01:08:17 --> 01:08:21

we'll be there. And as you noted, they will also be there. So it's a

01:08:21 --> 01:08:24

unique opportunity to spend time with them and ask questions to

01:08:24 --> 01:08:29

resume and has renewed in person and purchase the book. And I also

01:08:29 --> 01:08:32

encourage as many people that not only just purchase the book and

01:08:32 --> 01:08:35

put it on your bookshelves, or please teach this to your family,

01:08:35 --> 01:08:38

to your children within the schools. And I think that the idea

01:08:38 --> 01:08:41

that you mentioned about getting this within schools and in the

01:08:41 --> 01:08:45

education circles and getting into the youth is huge, important

01:08:45 --> 01:08:48

because there's a huge cultural impact that we can have. So

01:08:48 --> 01:08:51

there's a there's a lot more to be told about the study of Islam in

01:08:51 --> 01:08:53

China than just the book itself. So I think it's a unique

01:08:53 --> 01:08:57

opportunity for us to all connect to the untold story and to share

01:08:57 --> 01:09:01

that notice all hands on just encouraging everyone to give, give

01:09:01 --> 01:09:04

generously and to support this cause for this campaign by sharing

01:09:04 --> 01:09:07

in their networks each other. Wonderful, thank you for seeing

01:09:07 --> 01:09:11

for taking the initiative and bringing us sit Abdulhadi and

01:09:11 --> 01:09:14

Peter Sanders it's an honor to have you on and you came to our

01:09:14 --> 01:09:19

Masjid before and I hope that you know we can arrange some East

01:09:19 --> 01:09:25

Coast trip Imran Khan is here. Our resident Britisher and he will

01:09:25 --> 01:09:29

inshallah to Allah arrange for the Islamic schools the masajid and be

01:09:29 --> 01:09:33

very busy very very busy here insha Allah surface whatever I

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just co located and thank you very much for coming on.

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All right, Omar. Do try put that book the book cover as the whole

01:09:48 --> 01:09:48

background.

01:09:52 --> 01:09:53

Try it just try

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not expand it. No, they couldn't do just expand. Let's

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So I want to see what it's going to look like yeah there look at

01:10:02 --> 01:10:04

look at that now Senate move it over a little bit

01:10:08 --> 01:10:11

centered a little more so that there's no white. You see the

01:10:11 --> 01:10:15

white curtains at the on the right there. Yeah center enlarge it even

01:10:15 --> 01:10:19

more enlarge it even more. There you go. Even more ticked all that

01:10:19 --> 01:10:25

white out all the white area go look at that now put the faces on

01:10:25 --> 01:10:25

top of that.

01:10:27 --> 01:10:31

But the two faces on top of that guy get rid of that green box and

01:10:31 --> 01:10:35

make the text all white. Oh, that is nice. That's a good thing.

01:10:37 --> 01:10:41

That's okay, but but let's just see where you're experimenting

01:10:41 --> 01:10:44

it's all trial and error doesn't mean you have to stick with it

01:10:47 --> 01:10:51

yeah, make the faces smaller make the body yeah, there you go. Make

01:10:51 --> 01:10:57

them smaller. Yes. Chinese Chinese New Year where's that

01:11:03 --> 01:11:07

we could we could we could actually who see who runs the

01:11:09 --> 01:11:13

so called Chinatown you know these festivals there. I like to make

01:11:13 --> 01:11:16

the text white. Muslim and China make that white. We could all

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white

01:11:24 --> 01:11:26

are making the thumbnail here folks. I know your people are

01:11:26 --> 01:11:30

watching. They're like what? And they're listening like I like this

01:11:30 --> 01:11:31

but his head is cut off.

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Fixed.

01:11:36 --> 01:11:38

Alright, so lift his head up again.

01:11:39 --> 01:11:43

Okay, so fix that. But keep that as the cover. I like it. I really

01:11:43 --> 01:11:48

like it's good. Keep it just fix the the cut off parts. Put a nice

01:11:48 --> 01:11:52

background. Not we need to move away from the green box thing.

01:11:53 --> 01:11:56

colorless, cancel green box. I'm tired of it. I don't like the

01:11:56 --> 01:11:59

green boxes anywhere. Right? It's repetitive. It's repetitive. We

01:11:59 --> 01:12:01

got to change. We got to change.

01:12:02 --> 01:12:06

Not No, no, forget that. We got to change it art is about changing

01:12:06 --> 01:12:10

constantly. You got to try something different. And the green

01:12:10 --> 01:12:14

box how many green box thumbnails? It wouldn't have hulless. Right.

01:12:14 --> 01:12:18

Let's ask the audience here. Who is we're gonna get clicks either

01:12:18 --> 01:12:19

way, right?

01:12:20 --> 01:12:23

I don't want your clicks. How's that to the people? People don't

01:12:23 --> 01:12:24

click

01:12:25 --> 01:12:28

alright. But I like you know what his box is at least or not

01:12:28 --> 01:12:33

fluorescent green. You got to admit and if he does change, it is

01:12:33 --> 01:12:33

true.

01:12:34 --> 01:12:37

You do make it red. And I like his rounded corners. But let's try

01:12:37 --> 01:12:40

some different stuff to do something different. Right? It's

01:12:40 --> 01:12:44

time to make a different style of thumbnail because and let's test

01:12:44 --> 01:12:44

it

01:12:48 --> 01:12:49

Yeah, the old

01:12:50 --> 01:12:51

Yeah.

01:12:53 --> 01:12:55

All right. Yeah, keep keep the thumbnail like this to see what

01:12:55 --> 01:12:57

happens. I guarantee you it's not gonna have any much of a

01:12:57 --> 01:12:57

difference. But

01:13:01 --> 01:13:04

Jennifer's asking what imagery rewind a little bit and you'll see

01:13:04 --> 01:13:08

the video that he has. And some of the pictures that are scrolled

01:13:08 --> 01:13:09

through.

01:13:10 --> 01:13:13

Let's go to the questions. She said my son's obsessed with China.

01:13:16 --> 01:13:17

Is there a reason for that?

01:13:18 --> 01:13:20

That's a unique hobby but I get

01:13:21 --> 01:13:24

but check out the book he'll love the book then Right.

01:13:30 --> 01:13:33

In China, are allowed to live in central China the way they

01:13:33 --> 01:13:37

wouldn't. Well, the the only the weekers are being oppressed. He

01:13:37 --> 01:13:37

said

01:13:38 --> 01:13:40

regular Muslims in mainland China are fine.

01:13:47 --> 01:13:50

We can have a live stream without somebody asking are we sad?

01:13:50 --> 01:13:50

metodi.

01:13:52 --> 01:13:53

Yes, we are.

01:13:55 --> 01:13:58

That's what we teach here. And we also teach somebody Victor we have

01:13:58 --> 01:13:59

somebody for courses at ARC v dot orgy.

01:14:01 --> 01:14:05

Can't have a live stream. Talk about any subject. You got to have

01:14:05 --> 01:14:06

a question about the beard.

01:14:08 --> 01:14:12

Yeah, it's an only in medically fit. Is it forbidden to shave the

01:14:12 --> 01:14:15

mustache and the soul patch because none of this had done

01:14:15 --> 01:14:19

that. And it was considered a deformation.

01:14:20 --> 01:14:23

You know that? They forbid that. Forbid shaving the mustache and

01:14:23 --> 01:14:24

keeping the beard.

01:14:26 --> 01:14:30

And what is the beard? It's this jaw line because if an Ottawa he

01:14:30 --> 01:14:34

deemed the cheek not to be considered part of the beard. Or

01:14:34 --> 01:14:35

you have that too. And Shafi fit grunt

01:14:37 --> 01:14:42

shaving is my crew in the Shafik but not how to small crew.

01:14:44 --> 01:14:48

Listen, I just take whatever comes at me in the q&a, because that's

01:14:48 --> 01:14:51

what they need. Right? It's not about what I want to say. All the

01:14:51 --> 01:14:56

time. First half is that it's what the people are asking for. You

01:14:56 --> 01:14:59

know, there's a guy who won he won Teacher of the Year 30 years in a

01:14:59 --> 01:14:59

row.

01:15:00 --> 01:15:03

Like he was like an honorable mention one time wins the whole

01:15:03 --> 01:15:08

thing in a huge district. i Sorry, it was a it was a female. She she

01:15:08 --> 01:15:11

was like always getting some accolade. 30 years running. She

01:15:11 --> 01:15:13

got some accolade or other.

01:15:14 --> 01:15:16

So they asked her like, what's your secret? And she said the

01:15:16 --> 01:15:21

secret is that I it may something may be the 30th time that I do it,

01:15:21 --> 01:15:25

but it's the first time for the student. So people may have heard

01:15:25 --> 01:15:28

oh my gosh, we talked about this 1000 times. Yeah. But for Adam Bo

01:15:28 --> 01:15:30

amiah. It's his first time.

01:15:31 --> 01:15:34

And that's who you're here serving here to serve yourself and talk

01:15:34 --> 01:15:37

about what you want to talk about. That's the first half of the live

01:15:37 --> 01:15:40

stream. Second half is what the people bring. Right what they

01:15:40 --> 01:15:42

want, what they want to know.

01:15:44 --> 01:15:46

Tyler Brazi says that the next Monday

01:15:48 --> 01:15:52

to catch a cold in China as their liquid is more silent, like their

01:15:52 --> 01:15:52

meditation.

01:15:56 --> 01:16:01

Know it's interesting that there Hanafy there. And it's maybe

01:16:01 --> 01:16:05

perhaps if the medical school had gotten to China is more permissive

01:16:05 --> 01:16:11

in the foods, it would have been an easier transition. Right? A lot

01:16:11 --> 01:16:15

of the foods that they eat would be deemed mcru. So if someone were

01:16:15 --> 01:16:18

to convert to Islam, they don't have to make too many changes

01:16:18 --> 01:16:21

because you can keep doing them. No problem. Like if that's not

01:16:21 --> 01:16:24

going to be a barrier to entry to enter Islam to do mcru. So for

01:16:24 --> 01:16:25

example,

01:16:26 --> 01:16:30

animals with canines, it's mcru in Malaga.

01:16:32 --> 01:16:36

Horses. That's haram. Right? horses, mules and donkeys haram

01:16:36 --> 01:16:37

and medica.

01:16:38 --> 01:16:42

But they but they eat that more in the Mongol areas, right? They eat

01:16:42 --> 01:16:43

horse.

01:16:46 --> 01:16:47

They eat horse.

01:16:49 --> 01:16:49

Jeep.

01:16:52 --> 01:16:58

AK player says Can we use a 68 of Pseudotsuga? Oh Allah, give them

01:16:58 --> 01:17:00

double the punishment and curse them.

01:17:02 --> 01:17:06

A big curse? Can we use that on the Zinus?

01:17:10 --> 01:17:13

Yes, it isn't a of the Hellfire. That's number one. Good

01:17:13 --> 01:17:16

observation there by Sohaib. This is an eye of the Hellfire it's not

01:17:16 --> 01:17:19

an area of the dunya. And

01:17:20 --> 01:17:24

in general, the the calf at a volume you can make dua against

01:17:24 --> 01:17:30

him. A Muslim a volume or you can say May Allah guide him or remove

01:17:30 --> 01:17:34

his oppression. That's what we say. Right? However, when there is

01:17:34 --> 01:17:37

a volume, the Prophet did make Mushrik the Prophet didn't make

01:17:37 --> 01:17:41

dua against them. That's a fact. And he made

01:17:43 --> 01:17:44

he did.

01:17:47 --> 01:17:49

A dua, Allah Clute

01:17:50 --> 01:17:55

outside of fetch, and outside of which he did collude against them

01:17:55 --> 01:17:56

for 40 days.

01:17:57 --> 01:18:01

For the people who said, Send us Muslim teachers and the prophets I

01:18:01 --> 01:18:04

send them sent them Muslim teachers when they got far away

01:18:04 --> 01:18:04

from Medina.

01:18:06 --> 01:18:08

They then surrounded them and killed them all.

01:18:13 --> 01:18:15

What do you have to say about what you just heard today?

01:18:24 --> 01:18:25

It's good to finally see

01:18:26 --> 01:18:28

in the spirit of Sandra's talk about his own work. Yeah, I've

01:18:29 --> 01:18:32

read the book last year, I picked up a copy. I was visiting him.

01:18:35 --> 01:18:37

In the China ideas, definitely.

01:18:38 --> 01:18:40

It's very different, right? This is my Canon.

01:18:41 --> 01:18:44

I'm not too familiar with like Islam in China. My only exposure

01:18:44 --> 01:18:45

is

01:18:46 --> 01:18:49

this one talk that Dr. Omar Farooq Abdullah gave a number of years

01:18:49 --> 01:18:51

ago about

01:18:54 --> 01:18:57

basically how Islam spread and like different cultures and how it

01:18:57 --> 01:18:59

manifests. And you mentioned some of the same points that you

01:19:01 --> 01:19:05

see the Peter Sanders mission. Yeah. So, for example,

01:19:05 --> 01:19:06

architecture not

01:19:08 --> 01:19:11

being done in a Chinese way, rather than some sort of Middle

01:19:11 --> 01:19:12

Eastern way. Yeah.

01:19:14 --> 01:19:15

So I mean,

01:19:16 --> 01:19:21

it's a beautiful idea. The key is have you know what they say? They

01:19:21 --> 01:19:22

say that.

01:19:24 --> 01:19:28

They say that there must be some people who always preserve the

01:19:28 --> 01:19:31

exact dress of the Prophet sallallahu, alayhi wasallam, there

01:19:31 --> 01:19:33

was some Alama must always preserve that.

01:19:34 --> 01:19:38

Beyond that, the barrier to entry must be made very low.

01:19:39 --> 01:19:44

In other words, try to to not make things more difficult than needed.

01:19:45 --> 01:19:48

And they're very, you know, keep that barrier very low and just

01:19:48 --> 01:19:52

bring people into Islam in that fashion. So there's a balance of

01:19:52 --> 01:19:58

two it's not going to be complete abandonment of What is the

01:19:58 --> 01:20:00

Prophetic sunnah, and it's not

01:20:00 --> 01:20:02

even like a sunnah like as in Santa Monica that's almost just

01:20:02 --> 01:20:05

like the attribute of the physical

01:20:07 --> 01:20:11

death of the Prophet slicin customs and hey et, and they fall

01:20:11 --> 01:20:18

as nephila. There's obligations, highly recommended to Sunon. And

01:20:18 --> 01:20:21

then there's hay add or no effort, which is under the category of

01:20:21 --> 01:20:25

nephila lightly recommended. So how the Prophet ate, how he

01:20:25 --> 01:20:29

walked, how he dressed all that. And if you notice Hebei, East

01:20:29 --> 01:20:34

Africa, West everywhere, they kept it every West, India, East Africa,

01:20:34 --> 01:20:39

Indonesia, they kept it. And then the people, then they, they, but

01:20:39 --> 01:20:42

they didn't push it on the people. They kept it themselves. And they

01:20:42 --> 01:20:43

did push it on the people. That was very important.

01:20:44 --> 01:20:44

Now,

01:20:46 --> 01:20:48

here's a couple of random questions here. We're just going

01:20:48 --> 01:20:51

to take a random rapid fire questions. Can we work for a

01:20:51 --> 01:20:54

company that deals in Bitcoin? Is it generally haram? For most?

01:20:54 --> 01:20:58

There's no indramat That is haram for Muslims. Shafi ruling on

01:20:58 --> 01:21:01

Bitcoin? I'm not too sure. I mean, have you ever heard

01:21:02 --> 01:21:05

he commented on electronic currencies a number of years ago?

01:21:05 --> 01:21:09

What do you say? It's a scam? Basically, because the plots of

01:21:09 --> 01:21:13

the shelter? Yeah, because the chef a I need drama, said that

01:21:13 --> 01:21:14

this is

01:21:15 --> 01:21:18

it's it's a gamble, because you can never get your rights in

01:21:18 --> 01:21:22

court. And therefore, in a sense, it's not like an intentional

01:21:22 --> 01:21:26

gamble, but you just don't know. And in buying and selling and

01:21:26 --> 01:21:28

chutiya you must be able to know

01:21:29 --> 01:21:33

and be able to get your rights. So he said that

01:21:34 --> 01:21:37

he deemed that I don't know if he's using Sheffield. So but

01:21:41 --> 01:21:42

he said It's haram.

01:21:44 --> 01:21:47

Yeah. I don't know if he's using the Shafi base, but suited for

01:21:47 --> 01:21:49

that. But he's it says How long

01:21:50 --> 01:21:54

can we work for a company that so that's the answer on Bitcoin? So

01:21:54 --> 01:21:57

there's no HTML on this prohibition? There is a quote it

01:21:57 --> 01:22:01

left. What are your thoughts on the Khilafah says, Sophia and Ben

01:22:01 --> 01:22:05

100% on fortify upon the Muslims established and I just put it,

01:22:05 --> 01:22:07

there's an article go to go to.

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It's on Maliki for QA and it's on. Now, what's that other one called?

01:22:15 --> 01:22:16

automatics?

01:22:17 --> 01:22:22

Go to a medics, and get it from aromatics, all the med hubs

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Knossos from all the methods and the summary short brief, very

01:22:26 --> 01:22:32

brief summary of it at Maliki fic. qa.com. It's right up there at the

01:22:32 --> 01:22:33

top. Okay.

01:22:37 --> 01:22:41

What was important so Sedna mooses hand coming out white in the

01:22:41 --> 01:22:48

miracle? The point is to show Satana Musa that there is an order

01:22:48 --> 01:22:53

above the known causes and effects that we perceive. And that is

01:22:53 --> 01:22:58

Allah sanquin faecal Simple as that. It's a reminder that

01:22:58 --> 01:23:03

naturalism in our minds must be broken. Naturalism, in our minds

01:23:03 --> 01:23:07

is that these laws of nature are absolute cannot be changed, or

01:23:07 --> 01:23:08

they're permanently.

01:23:10 --> 01:23:14

Miracles are meant to break that to remind us who made these rules.

01:23:15 --> 01:23:19

And if you notice, one of the most amazing things in physics is that

01:23:20 --> 01:23:24

the laws of physics, the emergence of the laws of physics contradict

01:23:24 --> 01:23:29

the laws of physics, right? These laws of physics emerged, their

01:23:29 --> 01:23:33

emergence is not consistent with the laws. Therefore, there must be

01:23:33 --> 01:23:35

something above these laws.

01:23:36 --> 01:23:40

Anything that can be said how or cave has to have an origin can

01:23:40 --> 01:23:41

never be infinite.

01:23:43 --> 01:23:47

For example, gravity, there's an amount of gravity, right? There's

01:23:47 --> 01:23:51

an amount there's a cave, anything that has a cave, there's a

01:23:51 --> 01:23:55

direction cave is how anything that has a house has an origin

01:24:02 --> 01:24:03

number nine, yeah.

01:24:06 --> 01:24:07

I guess you

01:24:08 --> 01:24:13

said the reason I was asking this question of practice and Lauren

01:24:13 --> 01:24:14

Davis, it was almost

01:24:16 --> 01:24:18

it was almost rhetorical like he was saying,

01:24:19 --> 01:24:22

Do you think that the signs that were telling you what do you think

01:24:22 --> 01:24:25

those are was wonderous. When I was pregnant that breaks the

01:24:25 --> 01:24:30

reality? Yeah, in reality, the natural order that was passed that

01:24:30 --> 01:24:35

has the most that's an amazing observation. You didn't hear that

01:24:35 --> 01:24:40

but he said, the Allah says efficitur Do you think that the US

01:24:40 --> 01:24:43

hobble calf living all this time this story they slept for three on

01:24:43 --> 01:24:45

genetic Do you think that's

01:24:46 --> 01:24:47

amazing?

01:24:48 --> 01:24:51

And he's basically saying no, that's not what's amazing. The

01:24:51 --> 01:24:54

fact that the natural order is as consistent as it is, that's what's

01:24:54 --> 01:24:59

amazing. Because also you can imagine like fo Atia fri eight is

01:24:59 --> 01:25:00

Have you not seen

01:25:00 --> 01:25:04

I mean, that's for it is directing your attention. But EFA has

01:25:04 --> 01:25:08

symptom Do you think that's amazing? No the fact that every

01:25:08 --> 01:25:12

day you can predict how many hours it needs for you to sleep and when

01:25:12 --> 01:25:15

to get rested every day I can predict how much food for me to

01:25:15 --> 01:25:19

eat. They'll feel good. Astronomers can predict and tell

01:25:19 --> 01:25:23

us not predict they can forecasts I should say it's better if they

01:25:23 --> 01:25:25

can forecast when is the next lunar eclipse when is the next

01:25:25 --> 01:25:28

moon solar eclipse to the time.

01:25:29 --> 01:25:34

And the location you in California will see it at 3pm. In Indiana,

01:25:34 --> 01:25:39

you'll see it at 2pm. In Ohio, you'll see it at 1pm to the minute

01:25:41 --> 01:25:43

that's what's wonderous. Subhanallah, the natural order of

01:25:43 --> 01:25:46

thing not the breaking of the order, somehow

01:25:47 --> 01:25:48

it's a great observation.

01:25:50 --> 01:25:55

Can you react to Sofia on the SF Kazi and Musa I call debate? No, I

01:25:55 --> 01:25:57

didn't watch it. I didn't even know they had a debate. I didn't

01:25:57 --> 01:25:58

watch it. But

01:26:00 --> 01:26:05

you know, that shook so Cody's good friend and we just met last

01:26:05 --> 01:26:06

week, and

01:26:08 --> 01:26:11

he's probably more tolerant to him than me. Right?

01:26:12 --> 01:26:15

He probably isn't not kidding, he's probably more

01:26:16 --> 01:26:20

open to dialogue with someone like him than than I am. I wouldn't

01:26:20 --> 01:26:22

even be open to dialogue with this guy. I mean, he's a very polite

01:26:22 --> 01:26:27

guy, most of a cool, but I'm not going to be fooled. I don't not

01:26:27 --> 01:26:32

going to judge a doctrine by its person being polite. Right? is

01:26:32 --> 01:26:36

irrelevant to me, right? A set of ideas is not going to be we can't

01:26:36 --> 01:26:40

treat it like that. Right? You can't treat it that because he's

01:26:40 --> 01:26:41

very polite.

01:26:42 --> 01:26:47

So, yeah, he's very nice. But some of these ideas, I would say are

01:26:47 --> 01:26:50

not just blasphemous.

01:26:51 --> 01:26:54

That would make you a heretic in the religion. I think someone will

01:26:54 --> 01:26:56

put you outside the religion. Some of these ideas if you examine

01:26:56 --> 01:26:58

carefully, right.

01:26:59 --> 01:27:02

But nonetheless, I guess I'll watch it until everyone else is

01:27:02 --> 01:27:02

watching it.

01:27:03 --> 01:27:05

And then we'll see what how it went.

01:27:07 --> 01:27:07

All right.

01:27:10 --> 01:27:12

And you please make dua that I have a major exam on the Day of

01:27:12 --> 01:27:13

Arafah

01:27:16 --> 01:27:20

says March, Allah grant us TOEFL and your exam.

01:27:22 --> 01:27:25

What do you do if a non Muharram falls asleep on your shoulder on a

01:27:25 --> 01:27:25

train?

01:27:29 --> 01:27:33

Or you lost your muscle by that phase? The touch loses the will do

01:27:34 --> 01:27:35

she sleeps on you what happens

01:27:38 --> 01:27:43

what do you do? Do I nudged her off Get off me This is haram while

01:27:43 --> 01:27:47

there could be a jihad to that by the way, there could be a possible

01:27:47 --> 01:27:52

reason to do that to excuse yourself in a polite kind way. Oh

01:27:52 --> 01:27:56

sorry, I have to go to the bathroom and not make them feel

01:27:56 --> 01:27:59

offended. But at the same time, you have to also we have something

01:27:59 --> 01:28:05

called the Murat a superhet You got to be very, you know careful

01:28:05 --> 01:28:10

of the ship Shobha here. What happens if a man comes by and sees

01:28:10 --> 01:28:14

you like that? Right? With this woman sleeping on your shoulder.

01:28:15 --> 01:28:19

Then a year later you propose to a woman and you go to her house and

01:28:19 --> 01:28:20

it's that guy.

01:28:22 --> 01:28:29

That's a Sherpa. And so, it took the MO Alton Schubert's or

01:28:29 --> 01:28:30

McGlothlin at To Him

01:28:32 --> 01:28:37

be stay away from area where you could be accused of something. So

01:28:37 --> 01:28:39

from that angle, yeah, we may have an issue.

01:28:40 --> 01:28:45

But I would only do it in a way that's not offensive. Like that's,

01:28:45 --> 01:28:48

it wouldn't be right to say you know, just get off me or whatever

01:28:48 --> 01:28:50

like that. I would I would personally feel a little bit

01:28:50 --> 01:28:52

embarrassed to do that. I would say

01:28:55 --> 01:28:58

here's here's a pillow, right? I need to go to the bathroom. Right?

01:28:59 --> 01:29:03

So I would say it also depends on the age it depends on the person

01:29:03 --> 01:29:04

you know.

01:29:06 --> 01:29:13

Almar well done. Really good. Really good. Thumbnail.

01:29:14 --> 01:29:16

Really show everyone the thumbnail

01:29:19 --> 01:29:22

let's see the shot the thumbnail that show everyone that thumbnail

01:29:22 --> 01:29:24

Can you they'll see it

01:29:29 --> 01:29:30

very nice, very nice.

01:29:32 --> 01:29:36

Is this so not too fast? All nine of those hedger Well, the first

01:29:36 --> 01:29:41

eight is nephila The ninth, so no mercado Zaman Shafi right, can not

01:29:41 --> 01:29:43

miss the night Yamato

01:29:44 --> 01:29:45

Do you fasted even if you have

01:29:50 --> 01:29:51

I'm actually both

01:29:54 --> 01:29:55

combined son and forth.

01:29:57 --> 01:29:59

Fasting we make the intention to pass

01:30:00 --> 01:30:00

Some

01:30:03 --> 01:30:05

of the Sun he shared you

01:30:07 --> 01:30:08

saw him only. Okay.

01:30:10 --> 01:30:14

You all heard that if someone would love to for you to visit the

01:30:14 --> 01:30:18

masjid, they need to email Safina Satya invites if he decided that

01:30:18 --> 01:30:23

orgy so we hear that folks chef a FIP you can combine the Kaaba and

01:30:23 --> 01:30:24

the the fort and the Sunnah

01:30:28 --> 01:30:31

in some not in Salah not in Salam

01:30:34 --> 01:30:37

Malik effect we don't combine further and Sunnah in anything.

01:30:39 --> 01:30:42

It could be Kedah, you're fasting on the same day.

01:30:44 --> 01:30:45

But it will,

01:30:46 --> 01:30:48

Your knee is going to be only

01:30:49 --> 01:30:52

called up yet at the simultaneously the whole day is

01:30:52 --> 01:30:57

blessed. And the dog will be accepted. So it's not like that

01:30:57 --> 01:31:00

person who's doing a cuddle up on your modified it's as if he's

01:31:00 --> 01:31:04

missed, you modify, know the dog is still accepted and, and it will

01:31:04 --> 01:31:07

be high fodder to superior to some leave. Right?

01:31:10 --> 01:31:11

You have to choose one intention

01:31:13 --> 01:31:16

is crocodile hull in the Maliki school not only it's hot out, it

01:31:16 --> 01:31:18

doesn't have to be slaughtered. Because it's a sea creature. Chef

01:31:18 --> 01:31:24

AASA. If the animal spends 50% of the time or more in the water,

01:31:24 --> 01:31:28

then it's a sea creature. So you have to ask, right? You would have

01:31:28 --> 01:31:32

to ask somebody who knows about this animal? Right How much time

01:31:32 --> 01:31:33

it spends in the water, right?

01:31:34 --> 01:31:39

We say if it's spent if it can exist in water. It's a sea

01:31:39 --> 01:31:41

creature. So the crocodile doesn't even have to be slaughtered. So

01:31:41 --> 01:31:44

you go to a Florida Gators game.

01:31:45 --> 01:31:49

And they're eating Gator. And they're grilling it right.

01:31:50 --> 01:31:54

Actually, you're right. So when the Gators are playing, like the

01:31:54 --> 01:32:02

the Seminoles and they you know to bother the Gators they they grill

01:32:02 --> 01:32:07

gators fool alligator on a grill. Right? You can eat with them. You

01:32:07 --> 01:32:11

don't have to ask if it's the visa or not. There's no the visa of a

01:32:11 --> 01:32:13

or hunting of a crocodile necessary.

01:32:15 --> 01:32:20

Alligator crocodile any creature that lives in the sea turtle now I

01:32:20 --> 01:32:21

don't know if anyone eats turtle but

01:32:22 --> 01:32:24

they Florida they eat turtle. Okay.

01:32:25 --> 01:32:28

Any of these animals? Frog Legs?

01:32:29 --> 01:32:30

Eating?

01:32:33 --> 01:32:36

Oh my gosh. Yes. Yep.

01:32:38 --> 01:32:39

Chef

01:32:40 --> 01:32:44

makuuchi frog great. I think it's makuuchi frog in the Shafi school

01:32:44 --> 01:32:48

because the frog helped is narrated that the frog helped the

01:32:48 --> 01:32:53

Prophet Ibrahim tried to put out the fire of the of Nimrod. So the

01:32:53 --> 01:32:57

prophesy is setting them. It's another said avoid the frog.

01:32:58 --> 01:32:58

Right?

01:33:05 --> 01:33:06

Yeah, yeah, we don't kill frogs.

01:33:10 --> 01:33:12

We don't even if it's dead, we can eat. We don't have to do that we

01:33:12 --> 01:33:12

have.

01:33:13 --> 01:33:15

Yeah, we shouldn't kill it. Yeah.

01:33:16 --> 01:33:20

Just having firm boundaries involve having negative or angry

01:33:20 --> 01:33:23

emotions towards the situation or person. Or simply use logic and

01:33:23 --> 01:33:27

reasoning regarding your personal goals or intentions. Having firm

01:33:27 --> 01:33:33

boundaries, sometimes anger is a motivation to change, anger, all

01:33:33 --> 01:33:38

these natural things Allah put in you sexual drive, anger, jealousy,

01:33:38 --> 01:33:39

envy.

01:33:40 --> 01:33:44

All these things have a place. They all have a place hunger,

01:33:45 --> 01:33:45

exhaustion,

01:33:47 --> 01:33:48

they all have a place.

01:33:50 --> 01:33:54

You just have to find out what's the right place. And you what our

01:33:54 --> 01:33:56

religion teaches us is to put a

01:33:57 --> 01:33:59

flip a switch, or

01:34:00 --> 01:34:04

like a light switch that has a gradient. I know exactly when to

01:34:04 --> 01:34:08

push it up and when to pull it down. What is mesmo blameworthy in

01:34:08 --> 01:34:09

our spiritual development

01:34:10 --> 01:34:11

is when

01:34:14 --> 01:34:16

is thank you is when

01:34:17 --> 01:34:21

we are out of control. And that feeling controls us. So for

01:34:21 --> 01:34:28

example, the anger can be used in the right way to make you get up

01:34:28 --> 01:34:32

sometimes you get so angry at something. You get up out of bed

01:34:32 --> 01:34:35

at 11 o'clock, to take care of it when you're supposed to sleep.

01:34:36 --> 01:34:40

Sometimes, like you can't sleep, you're so upset about something

01:34:40 --> 01:34:40

but

01:34:41 --> 01:34:44

we also have to know when to turn it off. You can send off a

01:34:44 --> 01:34:47

destructive message and destroy everything right? So you have to

01:34:47 --> 01:34:53

know when to turn it down. So it's it's a great initiator, right?

01:34:53 --> 01:34:59

It's a wonderful initiator, but it's not a good finisher. You

01:35:00 --> 01:35:01

Don't want it in the finished product.

01:35:03 --> 01:35:06

When is anger okay to be in the finished product in the football

01:35:06 --> 01:35:10

of drama that's not directed to a specific person. In general, I'm

01:35:10 --> 01:35:13

angry at drinking amongst the Shut up.

01:35:14 --> 01:35:17

Right? Yeah, of course, he gotta be angry at that he can't be

01:35:17 --> 01:35:20

accepting of that. So

01:35:22 --> 01:35:25

that's where the use of the emotion to kickstart something,

01:35:25 --> 01:35:29

but you don't want to burn the whole the whole thing.

01:35:31 --> 01:35:35

Logic and reasoning should be used to tell us when is anger useful?

01:35:36 --> 01:35:41

When is this emotion useful? When is this emotion not useful? That

01:35:41 --> 01:35:44

boredom is one of the Ginola, boredom and Maillol.

01:35:46 --> 01:35:50

Right. And oftentimes, some say that boredom is a sign that you

01:35:50 --> 01:35:51

fulfilled what you need.

01:35:53 --> 01:35:59

Some say that, and some say that exhaustion is a sign that you

01:35:59 --> 01:36:02

fulfilled what you knew, where did they get that from? Sedna, Musa

01:36:02 --> 01:36:06

they Salam, when he passed where he was supposed to stop, Allah

01:36:06 --> 01:36:10

made him tired and exhausted, whereas before he was marching,

01:36:10 --> 01:36:14

but when he passed where he needed to be, then Allah bestowed

01:36:14 --> 01:36:19

exhaustion upon him, forced him to stop, that's Rama. So sometimes

01:36:19 --> 01:36:26

you feel burnout, right? That exhaustion is a sign that this

01:36:26 --> 01:36:29

thing that I'm doing, I fulfilled it, now I can take a break, do

01:36:29 --> 01:36:32

something else, then go back to it later. And that's where I would

01:36:32 --> 01:36:34

note that said that everyday, he needs a little bit of low.

01:36:36 --> 01:36:39

In the evening, remember, her dad says that a person can take a

01:36:39 --> 01:36:43

break from things so that he comes back with more in the shots later.

01:36:43 --> 01:36:46

And there's no harm somebody to say, I'm going to take a break

01:36:46 --> 01:36:46

from hips.

01:36:48 --> 01:36:52

I'm done hips for today. Right? Why? Because your intellect says

01:36:53 --> 01:36:54

you can burn out.

01:36:55 --> 01:36:58

And the intellect tells you this neffs needs a little breather.

01:36:59 --> 01:37:02

Alright, do something different, and then go back to you'll be even

01:37:02 --> 01:37:04

stronger when you go back to it.

01:37:05 --> 01:37:08

So the marathon runners always they get further than the

01:37:08 --> 01:37:12

sprinters. And the intellect is what will tell us. knowledge and

01:37:12 --> 01:37:14

intellect will tell us sorry, stop here, stop this motion has to be

01:37:14 --> 01:37:15

stopped here.

01:37:16 --> 01:37:18

And this motion needs to be turned on here.

01:37:19 --> 01:37:24

We're the only creatures I think that does this. That has like a

01:37:24 --> 01:37:30

CPU that says enough of this. Add this to its own self. So so self

01:37:30 --> 01:37:34

aware. And that's what differentiates humans from other

01:37:34 --> 01:37:34

creatures.

01:37:35 --> 01:37:36

What do you have to add to that?

01:37:39 --> 01:37:42

I think that's something which is like, especially very useful for

01:37:42 --> 01:37:45

like the level of you know, it's very easy to or people like in

01:37:45 --> 01:37:48

university. Yeah. Especially myself. I mean, it's very easy to

01:37:48 --> 01:37:49

have,

01:37:50 --> 01:37:54

like false expectations for yourself. So accepting the fact

01:37:54 --> 01:37:57

that you're going to burn out at some point. Yeah. And making use

01:37:57 --> 01:38:00

of that and like, do your own advantage. It's something which is

01:38:00 --> 01:38:04

very, I'll tell you that youth learn from trial and error.

01:38:06 --> 01:38:08

They learn from trial. No, they don't necessarily learn from their

01:38:08 --> 01:38:12

elders. Because if someone tells you, you need to put the brakes on

01:38:12 --> 01:38:15

here, take a breather, but he feels so good doing what he's

01:38:15 --> 01:38:19

doing. He's not gonna listen, right? Until then he's going to

01:38:19 --> 01:38:22

hit a wall. Then 10 years later, he's okay. Now I understand what

01:38:22 --> 01:38:26

you were saying. Right. So some people learn only by experience.

01:38:26 --> 01:38:30

If that's the case, let them learn by experience, but it's better if

01:38:30 --> 01:38:34

there are some elders to decrease their debt right writing right

01:38:34 --> 01:38:38

into a wall. That's why when you have communities that have shown

01:38:38 --> 01:38:42

you I can go to Damascus when the past so you go to Teddy him today.

01:38:43 --> 01:38:47

There's so many elders to you, that you will not get some point

01:38:47 --> 01:38:52

you can't just ignore them like your parents. You'll be better off

01:38:52 --> 01:38:55

better guided. Because though when you see many Sheoak are saying,

01:38:55 --> 01:38:59

okay, ease up on this, do a little this, then you believe them, then

01:38:59 --> 01:39:00

those people will end up with a more

01:39:03 --> 01:39:05

stable spiritual life.

01:39:08 --> 01:39:10

You know, there's 15 Messiah that you read, but you never like it's

01:39:10 --> 01:39:14

never gonna happen. Yeah, guy in the chat. He's saying maybe a

01:39:14 --> 01:39:14

woman

01:39:16 --> 01:39:17

we're gonna go

01:39:19 --> 01:39:21

no saying that. Yeah, he's saying like, just remember an emergency

01:39:21 --> 01:39:24

or loss eat any meat, for example, in an emergency wants to have to

01:39:24 --> 01:39:26

eat human meat. Whoa.

01:39:28 --> 01:39:33

I think you were actually die instead, in Melaka. You'd never

01:39:33 --> 01:39:35

eat it. Unless the person was already.

01:39:36 --> 01:39:37

If the person is dead already.

01:39:38 --> 01:39:42

Already. I think you don't it's one of those things that that also

01:39:42 --> 01:39:42

doesn't apply.

01:39:43 --> 01:39:48

Maybe a lot of I have to double check that would be dead and Xena

01:39:48 --> 01:39:51

there's no dosa for kittens. No. But what about the rocks of eating

01:39:51 --> 01:39:56

a human if a mother died? Like he's dead already. Mehta of a

01:39:56 --> 01:39:56

human.

01:39:57 --> 01:39:59

I remember seeing that that's not at

01:40:00 --> 01:40:03

That's exempted from the roof so you don't need that. Here. Alma,

01:40:03 --> 01:40:06

could you check the camera thing is slightly slanted. Somebody's

01:40:06 --> 01:40:07

slanted is it

01:40:09 --> 01:40:13

like, look the plants should be falling this way, right or no this

01:40:13 --> 01:40:13

way.

01:40:17 --> 01:40:21

What's the Shafi ruling on? I'm about to die. Can I go to the

01:40:21 --> 01:40:22

morgue and cook someone?

01:40:26 --> 01:40:27

No.

01:40:28 --> 01:40:32

Yeah. You probably already ate humans so that you lived in Egypt.

01:40:33 --> 01:40:37

You probably ate everything. Yeah, it's called. It's called ground

01:40:37 --> 01:40:40

beef. But as you're probably it's probably or as Donkey dog. You

01:40:40 --> 01:40:46

know that one time, the Egyptian Minister of Health. He was under

01:40:46 --> 01:40:52

fire. They discovered a lot of ground beef was Donkey. Right? It

01:40:52 --> 01:40:56

was Donkey. So guess what? He stood up and said he before there

01:40:56 --> 01:41:00

was ever Donald Trump. Right? doubling down. You know what he

01:41:00 --> 01:41:05

said? You said you're lucky. For 20 years you'd be in dog. Oh my

01:41:05 --> 01:41:06

gosh.

01:41:08 --> 01:41:09

That's true story, too.

01:41:11 --> 01:41:15

So why are you even worried about the dog even in dark? Right? I

01:41:15 --> 01:41:17

mean, is that not just just

01:41:19 --> 01:41:23

Alright, let's go to realistic. Realistic is back with her

01:41:23 --> 01:41:24

question.

01:41:26 --> 01:41:31

Following up on the long loving non Muslim boy and Muslim girl,

01:41:32 --> 01:41:36

they wanted to live the American life where they move in together

01:41:36 --> 01:41:41

before they get legally married. That haram Of course, since the

01:41:41 --> 01:41:45

girl's Muslim parents don't approve this. The girl convinced

01:41:45 --> 01:41:49

the boy to become a Muslim and Ducat picked up as a cover. So in

01:41:49 --> 01:41:52

front of Muslim she's married and not doing haram.

01:41:56 --> 01:42:01

When you say the shahada, as long as you didn't say, No, I'm just

01:42:01 --> 01:42:06

lying, then it's not a lie. Right? As long as you didn't say that.

01:42:08 --> 01:42:10

When you marry somebody, as long as you don't say, I don't really

01:42:10 --> 01:42:13

mean it. Even if you do say I don't mean it, you're married.

01:42:14 --> 01:42:14

Right?

01:42:15 --> 01:42:20

But the boy wants to live together before marrying thus perceives her

01:42:20 --> 01:42:25

as a girlfriend. There's no proof the boy is practicing any Islam?

01:42:28 --> 01:42:32

Is this marriage? Hello. What can the father do? Well, well, when

01:42:32 --> 01:42:36

you when you say it that way, then we can't trust anything that he

01:42:36 --> 01:42:40

does. If he's telling you that, then the father should just simply

01:42:40 --> 01:42:44

not allow the daughter to engage with it depends also, how old is

01:42:44 --> 01:42:48

the daughter is she like 1920, then he has a little bit more

01:42:48 --> 01:42:51

influence. If she's already 30, and she's a nurse or a doctor on

01:42:51 --> 01:42:55

her own, then he may have less influence, right. But he is the

01:42:55 --> 01:42:59

one he should be able to essentially he has to disallow

01:42:59 --> 01:43:05

this. Simple as that. Because the boy already told her, this is just

01:43:05 --> 01:43:08

a cover. Therefore, I'm not sincere about the Shahada.

01:43:09 --> 01:43:12

And even if we're married, I'm going to treat it like it's just a

01:43:12 --> 01:43:14

boyfriend girlfriend thing, then no.

01:43:16 --> 01:43:20

I'm sorry, the what? He cannot stand for that. And he is

01:43:20 --> 01:43:24

responsible in the sight of Allah, even if she's 40 years old. And

01:43:24 --> 01:43:28

she's a brain surgeon. As long as she's never been married before,

01:43:28 --> 01:43:31

and she lives under your roof, you're responsible

01:43:32 --> 01:43:34

for what he is responsible in the city. That's how it works.

01:43:35 --> 01:43:40

I know we're supposed to soften everything and say you have to do

01:43:40 --> 01:43:43

it with love. But sometimes it's just the laws, the law. That's it.

01:43:43 --> 01:43:47

Right. Sometimes the law is the law. Right? That's it.

01:43:50 --> 01:43:52

But of course, you know, this situation didn't happen for no

01:43:52 --> 01:43:56

reason. How is she in the environment that she's falling in

01:43:56 --> 01:43:59

love with another guy in the first place? And where were the parents

01:43:59 --> 01:44:03

when they saw that they see signs of this in the first place? Right?

01:44:03 --> 01:44:07

So sometimes there could possibly be you know,

01:44:08 --> 01:44:13

absentee parenting, or weak parenting or failed parenting

01:44:14 --> 01:44:17

altogether, then you reach a crisis point. And you realize

01:44:17 --> 01:44:21

like, wait a second, this crisis didn't happen for no reason. What

01:44:21 --> 01:44:26

was happening in the past me a cholesterol level does not hit an

01:44:26 --> 01:44:30

alarming number right away. You have eating habits way

01:44:32 --> 01:44:32

before that.

01:44:34 --> 01:44:36

So we can only tell you the rules. I can't tell you the solution. I

01:44:36 --> 01:44:39

don't know the solution. I just tell you what the rule is what you

01:44:39 --> 01:44:41

have to do as a Muslim. You cannot allow for this to happen.

01:44:43 --> 01:44:45

Can you bite back bite non Muslims?

01:44:47 --> 01:44:52

You mean like talking about their breath their face? It's not the

01:44:52 --> 01:44:57

click of a Muslim to do that. No, but you can hate on the bad things

01:44:57 --> 01:44:59

that they do. We can hate on the bad things of that.

01:45:00 --> 01:45:03

sectors, you know, they see that Mr. Brooks said, whoa to the day

01:45:03 --> 01:45:07

that Muslims covered the flaws of the public sector. He himself

01:45:07 --> 01:45:10

doesn't have higher so why are you covering up for him rather you

01:45:10 --> 01:45:14

should be shaming him. The public Senate should be shamed into what

01:45:14 --> 01:45:17

is the Sunnah of wearing a shawl How did the Prophet wear the shawl

01:45:17 --> 01:45:20

the prophets I seldom wore his saw in a couple of different ways but

01:45:20 --> 01:45:21

I'll show you one of them

01:45:29 --> 01:45:30

is to wear it like this

01:45:32 --> 01:45:34

and then put this side

01:45:36 --> 01:45:37

up like that

01:45:38 --> 01:45:43

with some room here so it's not choked up on the neck and then

01:45:43 --> 01:45:47

throw it back you know what else is so no medical school

01:45:48 --> 01:45:54

is when you wear a turban to bring the tail down like this and

01:45:54 --> 01:45:57

they're actually in some of our books I read that it's actually my

01:45:57 --> 01:46:00

crew to just wear a turban the way like we usually wear it even the

01:46:00 --> 01:46:04

more attendees wear it like that they actually consider that not to

01:46:04 --> 01:46:08

be any separation from the way yeah almost a great job get us a

01:46:08 --> 01:46:08

picture that

01:46:10 --> 01:46:11

that the prophets I seldom used to dress

01:46:13 --> 01:46:14

yeah

01:46:15 --> 01:46:15

yeah

01:46:17 --> 01:46:20

they used to cover there bring it down like this

01:46:24 --> 01:46:24

okay

01:46:30 --> 01:46:34

all right let's go to the next question. Anytime you want to

01:46:35 --> 01:46:39

pitch it I'm sitting next to a graduate of data center in Chicago

01:46:42 --> 01:46:43

oh you're from there only

01:46:44 --> 01:46:49

Oh data center missus local master move to Z Modine and Mufti

01:46:50 --> 01:46:54

min hago. Dean min head with Dean is a great fucky Masha Allah, he

01:46:54 --> 01:46:58

is so knowledgeable with him in hygiene. And one of the best

01:46:58 --> 01:47:02

people to keep company with this shipment hygiene with terminology.

01:47:03 --> 01:47:06

And he is the Sheikh of Dar salaam, and they're many shoe but

01:47:06 --> 01:47:11

he He's a chef, they're mostly Ozzie Medina is the dahlia who

01:47:11 --> 01:47:14

goes around the country and bring the students in. And he's

01:47:14 --> 01:47:18

concerned with the affairs of the youth. And he sent me a message to

01:47:18 --> 01:47:21

about we were talking about the third spaces, and he said, You

01:47:21 --> 01:47:24

know what? His biggest grievance against the third space concept is

01:47:24 --> 01:47:25

that they take

01:47:26 --> 01:47:30

the these these students of knowledge, 567 and eight years,

01:47:30 --> 01:47:33

students and knowledge, and they now go hang out in those some of

01:47:33 --> 01:47:35

those third spaces.

01:47:36 --> 01:47:39

We're not talking about roots here, because roots is obviously

01:47:39 --> 01:47:43

in another's in Dallas, not Chicago. And, and he says that,

01:47:43 --> 01:47:48

like they pull him down, almost the hem of the youth goes down. So

01:47:48 --> 01:47:52

that is what he says is his grievance on the third space

01:47:52 --> 01:47:55

aspect. So it's, it's again, it's a misuse, sometimes the third

01:47:55 --> 01:48:02

space is meant for somebody that we said last episode. And I just

01:48:02 --> 01:48:07

posited three possible reasons why third space is needed. Some

01:48:07 --> 01:48:10

people, they do have some issue with the question.

01:48:12 --> 01:48:13

I would say

01:48:14 --> 01:48:18

there have some humility, right? But what do you do with the person

01:48:18 --> 01:48:20

when they're not there yet, they're carrying so much baggage,

01:48:21 --> 01:48:24

and they have some arrogance. You can't just you can just let them

01:48:24 --> 01:48:28

go crash into the wall, or you could decrease his situation a

01:48:28 --> 01:48:33

little bit. So that's one second one is somebody who's feel so

01:48:33 --> 01:48:36

guilty because their life is so sinful. And they can't come to the

01:48:36 --> 01:48:41

gym or go to my gym, my little jabra.com website, the founder of

01:48:41 --> 01:48:44

the website, by the way, it's for adults to the founder of the

01:48:44 --> 01:48:48

website or the the guy in the pictures, put them up on he

01:48:48 --> 01:48:50

probably gets attacked every message he goes to

01:48:52 --> 01:48:55

look at the model Brother, look at the model, right.

01:48:57 --> 01:49:01

Let me tell you something, the website, my little Jabba, you can

01:49:01 --> 01:49:04

custom make your soap, but the model has tattoos everywhere.

01:49:05 --> 01:49:07

Here's a guy who promised like, every time I go to mustard, it's a

01:49:07 --> 01:49:11

big headache. Some uncle who doesn't have the etiquette of

01:49:11 --> 01:49:14

dealing with converts is gonna give him a headache. There's no

01:49:14 --> 01:49:18

doubt about that. Right? And he may be 2010 years Muslim.

01:49:19 --> 01:49:20

Half is

01:49:21 --> 01:49:26

right. But you also cannot undo those tattoos, you would severely

01:49:26 --> 01:49:30

injure your face your skin, it's already injured by the tattoo. Now

01:49:30 --> 01:49:35

you undo it, you're severely injure yourself. So he may be in a

01:49:35 --> 01:49:38

permanent position that not removing these tattoos is lawful

01:49:38 --> 01:49:44

for him. But are you he it's fathomable that a person has so

01:49:44 --> 01:49:49

much on Islamic baggage. Entering a masjid is a huge hassle and an

01:49:49 --> 01:49:52

embarrassment. Right? And every time someone's gonna get in his

01:49:53 --> 01:49:57

face. So that's the second reason that someone may that a third

01:49:57 --> 01:49:59

space has a function A third reason that a third space

01:50:00 --> 01:50:01

As a function is

01:50:02 --> 01:50:06

people whose culture is so different. And that's to take an

01:50:06 --> 01:50:11

example here, the brothers and sisters from Honduras, Ecuador,

01:50:11 --> 01:50:16

Mexico, they are foreigners in the United States. If they come into

01:50:16 --> 01:50:22

mbyc now, or any mustard, that's now another culture. So you know,

01:50:22 --> 01:50:26

squared foreigner squared, right? You're a foreigner in America, and

01:50:26 --> 01:50:29

you're double foreigner in the western world now makes more sense

01:50:29 --> 01:50:35

to create a space that is Hispanic dominated from the start. In other

01:50:35 --> 01:50:39

words, it's in Spanish is in their locality, right? And the dominant

01:50:39 --> 01:50:45

attendees are Hispanic people like them. Right? Similar, similar to

01:50:45 --> 01:50:48

what he said just now. Right? So that's exactly those are three

01:50:48 --> 01:50:53

reasons I just thought of from myself that a third space will be

01:50:53 --> 01:50:59

justified to have. So now what's, what is justified in terms of the

01:50:59 --> 01:51:06

practice there is to allow to keep the barrier at the least that any

01:51:06 --> 01:51:07

of the four methods would accept.

01:51:10 --> 01:51:12

At the least of any of the four methods would accept

01:51:13 --> 01:51:16

and what is unjustifiable, intentionally doing what's

01:51:16 --> 01:51:16

forbidden?

01:51:18 --> 01:51:21

Right. Now, what are you not responsible for? You're not

01:51:21 --> 01:51:24

responsible for the behavior of the people who enter it.

01:51:25 --> 01:51:30

In arm in any Masjid right now, regular traditional mosque. If a

01:51:30 --> 01:51:33

guy and a girl go and see each other in the masjid, then in the

01:51:33 --> 01:51:37

parking lot exchanged numbers, is the man responsible for that? I

01:51:37 --> 01:51:40

don't know if he's not the judge on them. Or he's not. I mean, he

01:51:40 --> 01:51:42

could judge if it's right and wrong, but he's not in control of

01:51:42 --> 01:51:46

them. Nobody could say, Hey, man, look what they're doing. Yeah, if

01:51:46 --> 01:51:49

it's persisting, and he's saying nothing, that's one thing that's

01:51:49 --> 01:51:52

different. But if it's something that just happened without him

01:51:52 --> 01:51:56

knowing, or one time that's different, if it's persistently

01:51:56 --> 01:52:00

there's a scene in the parking lot, yeah, then he has to say

01:52:00 --> 01:52:05

something. But if it's something that just happened one time, or

01:52:05 --> 01:52:07

out of his control, just even know what's happening.

01:52:12 --> 01:52:16

Where there's limited space, if I owned a coffee shop,

01:52:18 --> 01:52:22

what's my intention? My intention there is to go and sell as much

01:52:22 --> 01:52:24

coffee as possible put money in my family's bank account.

01:52:25 --> 01:52:29

When people come in, am I obligated to now ask, are you

01:52:29 --> 01:52:32

married? What is your intensive being here?

01:52:33 --> 01:52:38

It's 10pm 11pm. That's sometimes the most I'm going to make is from

01:52:38 --> 01:52:43

8pm to 11pm more than the rest of the whole day. Right? If it's if

01:52:43 --> 01:52:47

it's a city coffee shop, if it's a suburban coffee shop, you're going

01:52:47 --> 01:52:51

to be done by like, Yeah, six, you don't need to open anymore. Your

01:52:51 --> 01:52:55

morning. And the daytime workers, you know, the employees who meet

01:52:55 --> 01:52:59

have meetings and work from home. They close at eight and nine, but

01:52:59 --> 01:53:03

the city and the campus coffee shop, that's that's a lot it is

01:53:03 --> 01:53:07

coming in right here. Now, we cannot share he does not ask him

01:53:07 --> 01:53:11

to ensure that the patrons are well dressed that the patrons are

01:53:12 --> 01:53:15

married. Law. Sharia doesn't require that from him, they've

01:53:15 --> 01:53:18

been asking too much. Right.

01:53:19 --> 01:53:23

Now, there could be I can fathom somebody saying Hold on a second.

01:53:23 --> 01:53:27

But if it becomes there, if there's a reaches a point of

01:53:27 --> 01:53:31

access, and it's almost like a club, maybe, right? Is it

01:53:31 --> 01:53:32

analogous to marketplace?

01:53:34 --> 01:53:35

A marketplace? If you're

01:53:37 --> 01:53:43

like a marketplace? What's the Islamic dominant perspective on

01:53:43 --> 01:53:47

marketplaces in general No, in a Muslim world land with men and

01:53:47 --> 01:53:52

women? Both going to the US how would they go shopping? What's the

01:53:52 --> 01:53:55

technical did they send people out? Is it just men who

01:53:56 --> 01:54:02

know the the the busy packed soup was not the place for Muslim woman

01:54:02 --> 01:54:05

to go? In the old days they consider that to be not a place

01:54:05 --> 01:54:09

for a Muslim woman and if she did she covered she weren't niqab. She

01:54:09 --> 01:54:14

just put their her hijab over her face like this. And walk through

01:54:14 --> 01:54:20

the rabble of men. And sis today so it is today to like our family

01:54:20 --> 01:54:23

when we go in there's a rabble of men Muslim or not Muslim. Like a

01:54:23 --> 01:54:27

rabble like wild people. You just take your typical your hijab, and

01:54:27 --> 01:54:30

do what say she did and she did it in front of Sahaba at hedge.

01:54:31 --> 01:54:37

Right. She did it in front of Sahaba at hedge. Right. So all

01:54:37 --> 01:54:39

those people who think that that last

01:54:40 --> 01:54:43

discussion on niqab was like an anti niqab science and if I was

01:54:43 --> 01:54:47

just saying that to wear it without in the Maliki school from

01:54:47 --> 01:54:51

the UK Well, there's two awkward one that said more than the other

01:54:51 --> 01:54:54

is cut out here. Because you're you're adding without a law

01:54:54 --> 01:54:59

without a reason. But I'll call the outset as men do all that all

01:54:59 --> 01:54:59

count.

01:55:00 --> 01:55:02

Something there is not going to be dismissed. We don't dismiss

01:55:02 --> 01:55:06

Claudia yet. But the the Sookie is what the method is built upon. And

01:55:06 --> 01:55:11

Khalil is what the massive is built upon. Right? And there, this

01:55:11 --> 01:55:16

book is very clear about Cara here when it's for no Ella. But the ALA

01:55:17 --> 01:55:20

is even bigger than what our Muslim woman today can do, which

01:55:20 --> 01:55:23

is her face should always be covered in front of kofod. Because

01:55:23 --> 01:55:26

they don't have the obligation of lowering their gaze. Most of the

01:55:26 --> 01:55:30

men has to lower his gaze, right? And that's what the books say. But

01:55:31 --> 01:55:33

the book says that she doesn't have to cover in front of Muslim

01:55:33 --> 01:55:36

men he has to lower his gaze. Otherwise, what is the point of

01:55:36 --> 01:55:40

the Quran telling the men lower your gaze? And how many Hadith do

01:55:40 --> 01:55:44

we have when a Sahabi notes the coming or going of a certain

01:55:44 --> 01:55:48

woman? How did he know? Her face? Her face was not covered. But the

01:55:48 --> 01:55:50

calf does not have to lower his gaze? He's not he doesn't believe

01:55:50 --> 01:55:53

it. Not that he didn't sorry, he doesn't have to. He doesn't

01:55:53 --> 01:55:53

believe it.

01:55:54 --> 01:55:58

So therefore, now we enter different ruling.

01:55:59 --> 01:56:03

Facial coverage. So now why don't why doesn't anyone do it? Because

01:56:03 --> 01:56:08

they may be, like mocked so badly, that now you bring another harm.

01:56:09 --> 01:56:13

So our shakes and fix she weighs the harms, what is more harmful to

01:56:13 --> 01:56:16

be looked at or to be mocked, and she weighs and she's more clear at

01:56:16 --> 01:56:19

that point between the above when

01:56:20 --> 01:56:24

she makes a decision. And I like what the Hanafi say. The McDowell

01:56:24 --> 01:56:27

is the one who chooses the one who's tested by it is the one who

01:56:27 --> 01:56:28

chooses.

01:56:29 --> 01:56:30

So

01:56:32 --> 01:56:35

that's regarding the marketplace and going to these places of these

01:56:35 --> 01:56:38

jammed up places with all sorts of strangers is one of the advices

01:56:38 --> 01:56:42

that I get that we gave to Satan to Musa when you is avoid the

01:56:42 --> 01:56:43

rabble. It's in

01:56:45 --> 01:56:47

one of the books on the biographies and one of the

01:56:47 --> 01:56:52

toughest here on Sudafed cough, they go into what else did get

01:56:52 --> 01:56:55

their teacher musante Sinha and from one of the upwell is that

01:56:56 --> 01:57:00

could their said avoid the places with Rabel lot of people because

01:57:00 --> 01:57:03

people the more the people, the more corrupt they be. They feel

01:57:03 --> 01:57:06

that they can get away with things like industrialization destroyed

01:57:06 --> 01:57:09

o'clock, because now you have all these strangers living in cities.

01:57:09 --> 01:57:14

He's a complete stranger in the village and in the town. Like

01:57:14 --> 01:57:18

Sohaib can't walk around we all know so Hape, right. He can't walk

01:57:18 --> 01:57:22

around, do what he wants. We all know him you can walk around do

01:57:22 --> 01:57:23

it. I can't walk around, do it. I want

01:57:24 --> 01:57:27

people are gonna know me. Right? People are going to know you.

01:57:27 --> 01:57:31

People who call your dad call your mom, right? If you're a youth,

01:57:31 --> 01:57:34

well, the city now go for industrialization, you go work in

01:57:34 --> 01:57:38

the factory all day. Nobody knows you at night. Do what you want.

01:57:38 --> 01:57:42

Right? That's for set. So the rabble of the people is the issue.

01:57:43 --> 01:57:44

Airport to

01:57:45 --> 01:57:49

the airport. You're not building an airport? Yeah.

01:57:50 --> 01:57:54

People mingle, you're there to transport people, but invariably,

01:57:54 --> 01:57:57

they're going to good point. So there's places where we have to be

01:57:57 --> 01:58:01

in the rivals such as airports. You know, a lot of people feel so

01:58:01 --> 01:58:02

uncomfortable in the airports.

01:58:03 --> 01:58:06

You know, there's just too many strangers around. There's no

01:58:06 --> 01:58:07

There's no There's

01:58:10 --> 01:58:12

the route other necessity.

01:58:13 --> 01:58:14

So,

01:58:15 --> 01:58:19

what would you say is the love it for the lot like free mixing? How

01:58:19 --> 01:58:25

do we define that mixing has been discussed as following. There is a

01:58:25 --> 01:58:29

Muharram that which is haram that which is mcru.

01:58:30 --> 01:58:37

And that which is permitted, the Muharram? Absolutely Muharram is

01:58:37 --> 01:58:38

in the LT circle up then

01:58:39 --> 01:58:43

when the it's so jammed, that the bodies are touching.

01:58:46 --> 01:58:47

What's also Haram

01:58:49 --> 01:58:56

is the engaging with one another without a need. So to the point

01:58:56 --> 01:59:00

that you will be looking at them, and may be influenced to look at

01:59:00 --> 01:59:05

them for pleasure. So now you've created an environment that has no

01:59:05 --> 01:59:05

need.

01:59:06 --> 01:59:10

Right? No need a Hangout session. There's no need for this, right?

01:59:11 --> 01:59:15

It's not a meeting, there's absolutely no need. And it could

01:59:15 --> 01:59:19

we're so close for a long period of time to the point that a person

01:59:19 --> 01:59:22

may start they may start becoming attracted to one another.

01:59:23 --> 01:59:26

Now what's the kata here, the kata here is

01:59:29 --> 01:59:33

having a need for an extended period of time where it could

01:59:33 --> 01:59:38

possibly become that but there is a need. Right? The origin is a

01:59:38 --> 01:59:41

need. So therefore that removes the cutter here but it's extended

01:59:41 --> 01:59:44

and it's very close to the point that you can see. So Joe, there's

01:59:44 --> 01:59:47

so much that could enter into Cara here at that point. And what is

01:59:47 --> 01:59:50

permitted when there is a need, and you try to lower your gaze.

01:59:50 --> 01:59:54

And so the road almost you go to

01:59:55 --> 01:59:58

man, for example, just to give an example goes to a doctor, and he

01:59:58 --> 01:59:59

goes it's a Muslim doctor.

02:00:00 --> 02:00:03

are a male doctor have to battle some male doctor. And he goes, and

02:00:03 --> 02:00:08

then all of a sudden he gets in. And all of a sudden, a nurse comes

02:00:08 --> 02:00:10

in to get his blood pressure and height and weight and all that

02:00:10 --> 02:00:11

stuff.

02:00:12 --> 02:00:16

At that point, it's not something he put himself in. And it's

02:00:16 --> 02:00:19

something that he should hate it in his heart and as the door to be

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kept open, right? For

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the that's, that's the debates that our teachers teach in Maliki

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FIP.

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And they say that the hijab, the sutra, the pada is not a

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necessity, it's not necessary.

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Second Marini answered that question, we actually need to get

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those Q and A's out. It's been too long. I'm gonna do it myself.

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He said, it's not necessary. Of course, obviously, we know that

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other mothers do feel that it's better and necess necessary, maybe

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even. And I'll tell you the honest truth, though, when I go to data

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set, I'm in Chicago, and I spend the whole day there, let's say

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doing talks and everything sometimes, like two days.

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The environment is all men, there's not a single time that you

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interact or have any

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gaze that's forbidden. You actually come out you feel clean.

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You feel pure. It's not to say that they know like,

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that's that's not a knock that someone says, oh my gosh, you feel

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dirty when you look at a woman. No, it's not saying that. It's

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saying that I'm just telling you what I observed. Right? There's no

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way that it's an observation. You leave there you feel like

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Subhanallah like my heart's like a mirror No, like no dust on it. You

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can sense it you can feel it same wonder your way back when I went

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to Teddy and Yemen as soon as I came into the US the Emirates

02:01:46 --> 02:01:50

airport I was like it was a shock it was literally a shock because

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Teddy me I mean, you will not back then at least I don't know how it

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is now. You will literally not even see a face all the women are

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wearing the club.

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And full new club like this. Like it's dead. The club shows the eyes

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right? It's dead over the head is dead as they sometimes people wear

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hijab that has a cap and then a cloth comes down that's what the

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status

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or said Lilla a cetera cetera through istead

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can you be sure I did my 3d at the same time?

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I don't think that if somebody would some mix and match those

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matters of color if it would be as big a deal as matching matching

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and flip because these are just beliefs not just beliefs but their

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footwear.

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So I personally don't see that it's there's anything in saying

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that yeah, some maturity but on this and this and this, I tend

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towards the Ashley's belief. These are furore.

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For me in secondary issues.

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It's kind of how I remembered that says no, he was this he was

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Mahathat. So even till today, it's the silky left like was he meant

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to read he was shouting.

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In others like you don't eg in the later months, can you?

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I can't personally confirm this. But someone told me about another

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person who dreamed of the Prophet sallallahu it was said himself

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that he won't intercede for those who are dealing with those who are

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boycotted. Should I trust such a dream? A lot? I don't know. But

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I believe that if there is somebody openly complicit in

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supporting the Zionists, and you as a Muslim know this as a fact

02:03:43 --> 02:03:49

not hearsay. You know Allah subida Liukin now Allah Sabina scheck

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and you still engage with such people, then you are an enemy to

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the OMA. Without this dream, we can say very stern words

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in our law about people who engage with enemies of Muslims,

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and Allah knows best.

02:04:11 --> 02:04:15

What are what's a Shabbat? A Shabbat is a doubt, when I said,

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Muslims should not engage in a Shabbat, meaning should not put

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yourself in a position of doubt. Such as

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what would we say? We said, oh, a woman falls asleep on your

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shoulder on the train. Right? Could you imagine you're in

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Chicago, going to data set, I'm on the rail, right or on the bus and

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a woman falls asleep on your shoulder? That's going to be a big

02:04:39 --> 02:04:43

problem. Because everyone there knows you. And they're gonna say,

02:04:44 --> 02:04:45

what did he learn in Sydney?

02:04:52 --> 02:04:55

If your sleep is disturbed when waking up for fetch every night,

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resulting in some mental health problems later, is it permissible

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to pray fetch later on?

02:05:00 --> 02:05:04

Within the time, yes, within federal time, you can delay it,

02:05:04 --> 02:05:07

but not outside of federal time rather what you should do asleep

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earlier.

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Sleep earlier.

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Why do I say that? Because

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feeling a little bit off, would not be a valid excuse to skip the

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prayer. It's not a valid excuse, so sleep earlier, or pray later on

02:05:27 --> 02:05:31

in the time. So if it's four to six, you can pray at 545.

02:05:36 --> 02:05:39

Well, the main difference between SATs and SATs that we differ upon

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says Mark Yeah, bro.

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When was the ALMA that we went on, we talked about that.

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And there was like a whole segment of four or five minutes I

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discussed those. I can't read discuss here because it's take a

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long time. But for the for Mark, go back

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and

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go to the previous maybe three or four episodes and go into the

02:06:02 --> 02:06:06

timestamps, and we talked extensively, what was the purpose?

02:06:06 --> 02:06:11

Why did the sad School of Theology come into existence? And there's a

02:06:11 --> 02:06:14

lot of people who simply say if the Companions never did it, we

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don't do what what how was that on? Azulon? Anything? No. The

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Companions solved problems that Muslims suffered. That's the

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theme.

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If a Muslim suffered a problem in their Deen, physically, such as

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enemies, or

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administrative administratively, such as the administration of the

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OMA, or the Quran was being was possibly the whole foods were all

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being killed in wars. Then they gathered the Quran. And even when

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sects like the coloriage came, Sayed Ali appointed Abdullah bin

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our best to respond to them. Is that not scholastic theology?

02:06:52 --> 02:06:54

Right, debating back and refuting heresies.

02:06:56 --> 02:07:00

So when a different color of heresy comes around, a different

02:07:00 --> 02:07:04

type of heresy comes around after the death of Saba, we look at the

02:07:04 --> 02:07:09

principle of how the Sahaba acted, they refuted what harms and puts

02:07:09 --> 02:07:12

doubts in the minds of Muslims. So that's exactly what the shaido

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did.

02:07:14 --> 02:07:16

And in order to do that, they established these principles,

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right. So that's essentially what that shadow did. And there's a lot

02:07:21 --> 02:07:25

now, every time that there's a new wave of people entering into

02:07:25 --> 02:07:29

religiosity in Islam, the easy thing to do, and the easy thing

02:07:29 --> 02:07:32

says, The Companions never did it, therefore, we don't do it. Yeah,

02:07:32 --> 02:07:37

that sounds nice, right? But in fact, no, the Sahaba did, in fact,

02:07:37 --> 02:07:42

repel and refute heresies. So are we going to now say we only repel

02:07:42 --> 02:07:45

and refute those heresies, but all other heresies?

02:07:46 --> 02:07:47

Come, we're not going to refute you.

02:07:49 --> 02:07:52

Because the combat is in the future. Okay, so now, when the

02:07:52 --> 02:07:54

Mongols come, Sahaba never fought the Mongols, we're not going to

02:07:54 --> 02:07:59

fight them. What logic is, is, people will come around to see the

02:07:59 --> 02:08:04

wisdom. And if all of the HANA fees predominantly, and I know

02:08:04 --> 02:08:07

someone's gonna find me a Hanafy, somewhere who wasn't a metro DD,

02:08:07 --> 02:08:10

right? All of the magic is, and I know someone's gonna say it, but

02:08:10 --> 02:08:14

I'm there. But by the way, when I was at a bar, it was almost non

02:08:14 --> 02:08:18

committal either way, because you can find him quoting SATs.

02:08:19 --> 02:08:23

And you can find him quoting, like 10 G positions, and you can find

02:08:23 --> 02:08:28

him quoting, like authority types of position. He's not a Hoja. On

02:08:28 --> 02:08:30

what the medic is felt on nakida.

02:08:32 --> 02:08:37

Yeah, he was almost like making his own decision. But that's one

02:08:37 --> 02:08:40

person. What about all the other medica? Why did they come to say,

02:08:40 --> 02:08:43

No, this is what our shake was teaching. This is what medic was

02:08:43 --> 02:08:48

teaching. This is what he intended with those statements. Okay, so

02:08:48 --> 02:08:49

are you telling me the whole method went astray?

02:08:51 --> 02:08:53

How about the chef, are you?

02:08:54 --> 02:08:55

Aren't they all

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held that this is sound to this is accurate to? So we're going to say

02:09:01 --> 02:09:05

that 99% or 90% of the Alama of Islam?

02:09:06 --> 02:09:11

They want to stray? So here's where my position is. And you

02:09:11 --> 02:09:13

know, Jake talks about this in an article coming out this and many

02:09:13 --> 02:09:16

people don't realize we're friends. Right? Jacob lives only

02:09:16 --> 02:09:21

25 minutes away. And I was one of the first Muslims that he met in

02:09:21 --> 02:09:24

his life, right? When he after he entered Islam, so we have a bunt,

02:09:25 --> 02:09:31

even if he says stuff about that shot, but it's honestly been an

02:09:31 --> 02:09:35

empty laugh, not a tech field with tibia. Right. That's where I'm

02:09:35 --> 02:09:39

fine with that. If you say okay, no, no, I defer. Fine, defer all

02:09:39 --> 02:09:43

you want. There's no tub deontic fear, right or mockery, like that

02:09:43 --> 02:09:46

Saudi shift that I quoted the other day, mocking and making fun

02:09:46 --> 02:09:47

of the opinion.

02:09:48 --> 02:09:51

That seems like not accepted. It does seem like people are shifting

02:09:51 --> 02:09:54

towards accepting Kadem I mean, really, if you look at it, they

02:09:54 --> 02:09:57

just have a problem with the word itself. Yeah, like I'm like, You

02:09:57 --> 02:09:59

guys are all doing collab. You just don't realize it. Like it

02:09:59 --> 02:09:59

looks like a dog.

02:10:00 --> 02:10:04

Okay, what was this thing? It looks like a dog, it's a dog. You

02:10:04 --> 02:10:05

guys are all doing Kadem just because you don't call it good

02:10:05 --> 02:10:06

engineering.

02:10:07 --> 02:10:12

Hamza sources and all his work was kind of 100% How many jobs all his

02:10:12 --> 02:10:14

what he did with the Christians and atheists kinda like a lot of

02:10:14 --> 02:10:17

you said if you guys there aren't like they're very known for their

02:10:17 --> 02:10:19

dollar right and like debating Christians, what do you think

02:10:19 --> 02:10:22

you're doing in those debates with Christian God because you know,

02:10:22 --> 02:10:27

three in one contradiction, that's all cut down like and the thing is

02:10:27 --> 02:10:27

that

02:10:29 --> 02:10:35

it's these these little slogans statements, you know, that are

02:10:35 --> 02:10:38

actually misunderstood like all four Imams were against Kedah.

02:10:38 --> 02:10:40

Okay, yes, they were against the kind of the Morteza lights,

02:10:42 --> 02:10:48

not the kalam that is in accord, not the Scholastic debating with

02:10:48 --> 02:10:53

atheists or against atheists that is not in contradiction to our our

02:10:53 --> 02:10:57

theta. They were against the condemn that was in contradiction

02:10:57 --> 02:11:01

with a mortise, the Cunnamulla Wartsila. That's a difference just

02:11:02 --> 02:11:08

scholars were intelligent enough to know to defeat these persuasive

02:11:08 --> 02:11:11

Yeah, erroneous positions was to meet them on their own ground,

02:11:11 --> 02:11:15

correct. Their own, well, you have no other choice, right, then then

02:11:15 --> 02:11:19

meeting your opponent on his grounds. You can say that you're

02:11:19 --> 02:11:23

wrong, because the Quran says so when he does not accept revelation

02:11:23 --> 02:11:25

in the first place. So you have to meet him on the account of logic.

02:11:25 --> 02:11:30

How Satan Brahim did He say, Don't worship the stars and the moon in

02:11:30 --> 02:11:33

the sun? Because Allah said not to, well, he doesn't believe in

02:11:33 --> 02:11:36

Allah in the first place. He actually came, brought them an

02:11:36 --> 02:11:41

argument, the star goes away. How does your God not present in the

02:11:41 --> 02:11:42

daytime? Alright.

02:11:43 --> 02:11:46

Let's also look at how he even broke the idol.

02:11:47 --> 02:11:51

He broke the idol and said the big one did it. And they say how can

02:11:51 --> 02:11:52

I? Oh,

02:11:54 --> 02:11:58

that's literally what they were. So he showed them by your own

02:11:58 --> 02:12:00

logic, you know that your idol can't even break another idol

02:12:00 --> 02:12:04

literally of worship. Now, here's the thing I really I want to be

02:12:04 --> 02:12:09

able to, to do this and to talk about these things. Without it

02:12:09 --> 02:12:12

ever falling it collapsing into Muslims.

02:12:13 --> 02:12:18

And Muslims arguing and fighting because this just doesn't seem

02:12:18 --> 02:12:23

like it's the right path, Even though they all come in swinging

02:12:23 --> 02:12:26

in the comment sections, but I don't want to go that route. That

02:12:26 --> 02:12:29

doesn't mean I'm going to stop saying what I'm saying. But just

02:12:29 --> 02:12:31

add another point. It seems like when you really look at it from

02:12:31 --> 02:12:34

like, higher lens. The difference is that you know all these

02:12:34 --> 02:12:37

arguments about Kalam and to solve has nothing to do with actual

02:12:37 --> 02:12:40

like, you may have done it Madhu the word and then what it's

02:12:40 --> 02:12:43

pointing to Yeah, everything is about the dead like yeah, it is

02:12:43 --> 02:12:44

this word.

02:12:46 --> 02:12:47

But you believe in test. Yeah, that's

02:12:49 --> 02:12:51

that's a great point. I know. You don't like admitting to them,

02:12:51 --> 02:12:53

okay. You're doing the same thing just because you use a different

02:12:53 --> 02:12:58

word. Right? Let's let's discuss the actual thing. Scrap the word,

02:12:58 --> 02:13:03

scrap the word any philosopher that comes in any kid that read

02:13:03 --> 02:13:08

some philosophy website that goes into any masjid and starts arguing

02:13:08 --> 02:13:12

and posed positing questions that make the youth start doubting

02:13:12 --> 02:13:16

Islam guarantee every single dad will research and every single

02:13:16 --> 02:13:19

Imam there will research a response so you did the same exact

02:13:19 --> 02:13:20

thing right

02:13:22 --> 02:13:26

all right, let's now continue on rapid fire can I do silhouettes

02:13:26 --> 02:13:28

while driving and other activities? Yes, inshallah you

02:13:28 --> 02:13:31

can. Especially cooking they used to do a lot while cooking

02:13:35 --> 02:13:39

recently became it could you give the main difference? Okay, we

02:13:39 --> 02:13:42

answered this one. Why said no Musashi Sam Han Kim. Wait, we said

02:13:42 --> 02:13:42

that

02:13:45 --> 02:13:50

what if a person didn't pray for 15 years after tech leaf for so

02:13:50 --> 02:13:55

for the next 15 years, he prays twice a day, twice every Salah his

02:13:55 --> 02:13:55

foot and

02:13:57 --> 02:14:00

and for us, but either way, it's fine. You can pray but not after

02:14:00 --> 02:14:03

awesome because you just can't do nothing left us. Same thing. You

02:14:03 --> 02:14:07

pray for edge. If you're praying in the masjid prayer called up

02:14:07 --> 02:14:07

first

02:14:09 --> 02:14:13

and then the foot so that because if you pray the vote and you get

02:14:13 --> 02:14:16

up again, someone's going to stop you and say there is no nephila.

02:14:16 --> 02:14:19

And then you don't have to say I'm praying, because you don't want to

02:14:20 --> 02:14:24

expose that you have missed prayers. So that's how you do it.

02:14:24 --> 02:14:30

If you're very ambitious, you can cut it and to half's three times

02:14:30 --> 02:14:33

every Salah in seven and a half years but that I think that's too

02:14:33 --> 02:14:37

much. That's a lot of how much and you don't pray any Sunon except

02:14:37 --> 02:14:43

for the Sunnah of fetch, records and fetch and stuff on which you

02:14:43 --> 02:14:47

don't pray any other Sunon the daily sunnah. You can of course

02:14:47 --> 02:14:51

pray the other son and waka is just got our aid Kossuth Kosuth

02:14:52 --> 02:14:54

okay, you can pray those of course.

02:14:55 --> 02:14:56

All right.

02:14:58 --> 02:14:59

Adam Bow Bow me

02:15:00 --> 02:15:02

really need to get the book out this is the third time somebody's

02:15:02 --> 02:15:05

asked what is the starter book for studying I shut it up data

02:15:06 --> 02:15:10

and I don't have an answer what is the starter starter book for that

02:15:10 --> 02:15:13

look up just type in the name

02:15:16 --> 02:15:20

of the disease Soraka type in the name Abdulaziz Soraka just by all

02:15:20 --> 02:15:23

his theology books. He's translated some of them are heart,

02:15:23 --> 02:15:26

but you can learn the fundamentals from

02:15:28 --> 02:15:32

have to produce it properly. I took it off the market yeah

02:15:39 --> 02:15:40

by whom?

02:15:43 --> 02:15:43

Who

02:15:45 --> 02:15:46

basically

02:15:48 --> 02:15:51

made it in English really? Gee,

02:15:52 --> 02:15:58

you know what I, in the end of at the back of my, my book kita

02:15:58 --> 02:16:00

paradise. I took permission from ship I mean,

02:16:01 --> 02:16:05

Mohammed from Jersey, from Atlantic City to actually

02:16:05 --> 02:16:09

reorganize the to how we buy section because some of the things

02:16:09 --> 02:16:12

belong in another section. And he gave me greenlight to do that.

02:16:14 --> 02:16:17

Or how do we pray with it as Matt he's to rock has done one. And you

02:16:17 --> 02:16:19

could pray even in it Federer then goes off

02:16:23 --> 02:16:27

Can I shave the sides of my and leave a mustache and a goatee?

02:16:29 --> 02:16:31

I think the sharpies allow for that.

02:16:32 --> 02:16:36

The chef is allowed for that. Yeah, right. To have his love for

02:16:36 --> 02:16:39

that and tell him they many of the Sheoak just have a go just the

02:16:39 --> 02:16:40

chin.

02:16:42 --> 02:16:45

Bar really MOBAs sometimes it's you could tell it's completed.

02:16:46 --> 02:16:51

This part right here for the according to the Shafi school is I

02:16:51 --> 02:16:55

want to say in one of their opinions just to be safe, is what

02:16:55 --> 02:16:57

the beard is this bone right here. The

02:17:00 --> 02:17:02

dotted line or not? They're not okay.

02:17:09 --> 02:17:10

Colorful Lola

02:17:15 --> 02:17:19

eating snails. Is snail a water creature or is it a land creature?

02:17:20 --> 02:17:23

In the Maliki school if it's deemed as a land creature, you

02:17:23 --> 02:17:28

have to intend to kill it for food. And you could kill it in any

02:17:28 --> 02:17:31

way shape and form. Right? You don't slaughter it. You just

02:17:31 --> 02:17:34

intend to kill it. But if it's a water creature, you don't have to

02:17:34 --> 02:17:34

intend to kill it.

02:17:38 --> 02:17:39

There's water snails. Yep.

02:17:41 --> 02:17:41

All right.

02:17:42 --> 02:17:46

All right. Let's skip down a little bit and take some questions

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is the uncreated eternal Quran separate from a low Hilma fools?

02:17:52 --> 02:17:57

The uncreated speech of Allah is the terminology there is not a

02:17:57 --> 02:18:01

concept of uncreated eternal Quran unless you mean the uncreated

02:18:02 --> 02:18:07

eternal word of Allah, all the word of Allah subhanaw taala in

02:18:07 --> 02:18:11

himself, before the creation of things, of course is eternal. It's

02:18:11 --> 02:18:13

his attribute. It's called that Kadem enough see?

02:18:16 --> 02:18:19

general advice to stop sinning keep yourself busy. Sleep early,

02:18:19 --> 02:18:24

go around good people always make Toba and nobody's ever going to be

02:18:24 --> 02:18:28

we you could attain the level of hip. Hopefully ask Allah to grant

02:18:28 --> 02:18:31

you the MACOM of health where he protects you from falling into

02:18:31 --> 02:18:35

sins. That is possible. Is it haram to castrate a cat? No, I

02:18:35 --> 02:18:39

never heard It's haram to do that. Also is haram to keep him indoors.

02:18:40 --> 02:18:43

If he wants to roam outside. No, I didn't see that. It's haram to

02:18:43 --> 02:18:48

keep the cat indoors. Provided that he has food, provided he has

02:18:48 --> 02:18:53

placed some water to drink and also enough room to walk. He's not

02:18:53 --> 02:18:56

like jailed. He's like a whole house he can stay. And

02:18:58 --> 02:19:01

I never saw that it's forbidden to do that. It is forbidden though.

02:19:02 --> 02:19:05

For that's one of the reasons for being skip a dog as a pet. His

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dogs are meant to be outside the house.

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If a girl has been seeing someone for a year, and now the men wishes

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to meet the girl's father, should they go ahead with the marriage?

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If Yeah, the what would be doing something that's possibly not that

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great, depending how they're seeing each other for a year.

02:19:33 --> 02:19:37

Right now the guy has been with the girl for a year and now he's

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asking to see the dead. But alas, it happens but now he either stops

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seeing her or he talks to the dead and marries her properly.

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How do we how do we help our press brothers in Palestine?

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He changed it with you

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hands if not then with your tongue if not within with your heart then

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that is the weakest of faith right now we're in the very weakest of

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it all we could do is change it with our tongues and with our

02:20:08 --> 02:20:09

keyboards

02:20:11 --> 02:20:14

we could change with our money let's let's put that up we're

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collecting money for quarterback money for Gaza and now and Rafa

02:20:20 --> 02:20:21

almost gonna put it up right now

02:20:39 --> 02:20:40

Yeah, go ahead play

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everybody use it. So you guys

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but on the people who have been watching us they know but I really

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use it. Mashallah. He's the one on behalf of gr T's like on the

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ground. He's the one doing all the distribution there and it was a

02:21:07 --> 02:21:10

Philistine. So, you know, the money that you guys have been

02:21:10 --> 02:21:13

donating. He's the one that's actually he sends pictures and

02:21:13 --> 02:21:16

stuff and show them show some pictures. But first we have this.

02:21:17 --> 02:21:19

We have this voice message from him.

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And it looks like he's in a scene right now. So let's see what he

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says. Okay.

02:21:25 --> 02:21:28

Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. They are my brothers. I

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hope that you are all of you shout out okay, inshallah

02:21:33 --> 02:21:34

and Imani Shama

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updating about what about what is happening in the South because

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they have targeted

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the displaced tents for the people in the south of Gaza borders. And

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they have killed at least 35 of the people and the injured 10s of

02:21:54 --> 02:21:58

them killed now there is investigation from the Israeli

02:21:59 --> 02:22:03

about about what what was happening, which is a joke for the

02:22:03 --> 02:22:05

world. That is interesting question.

02:22:07 --> 02:22:11

To us situation in Gaza is the same. They are targeting many

02:22:11 --> 02:22:16

places they are targeting specific places for some of the people. But

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there is no ceasefire for for 14 now.

02:22:23 --> 02:22:25

Are we playing something or not?

02:22:26 --> 02:22:28

Were you playing it? On the stream?

02:22:29 --> 02:22:31

Oh, but it's not shifted over.

02:22:33 --> 02:22:36

Oh, they could hear it. Okay. Oh, okay. I thought you're playing the

02:22:36 --> 02:22:36

thing.

02:22:38 --> 02:22:42

Alright, so you could donate to GRT. Let's put the pictures up the

02:22:42 --> 02:22:46

flyers maybe. There we go. Yeah, there we go. There's a video.

02:22:46 --> 02:22:49

Let's look at that. And then we'll wrap up. Realistic while he's

02:22:49 --> 02:22:52

doing that realistic, says, boy and the girl didn't utter that

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they're doing this as a cover. But the parents the way he said it and

02:22:56 --> 02:22:59

makes the parents feel that way. Look, you just take him out.

02:23:01 --> 02:23:06

At his word if the dad trusts him, that's the key. If the dad trusts

02:23:06 --> 02:23:11

him, he trusts that he's actually entering Islam and trust that he

02:23:11 --> 02:23:14

understands that this is going to be a Sharia marriage first, then

02:23:14 --> 02:23:16

they could do the legal marriage after that. I don't recommend that

02:23:16 --> 02:23:20

but it would be valid for them to be alone after that.

02:23:22 --> 02:23:23

All right, let's see this.

02:23:25 --> 02:23:28

Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. This is your brother

02:23:28 --> 02:23:30

from Reza on behalf of secular society.

02:23:32 --> 02:23:35

Media, we are delivering the flower bags for the needy.

02:23:36 --> 02:23:39

Many thanks for starting society for continuous and you know,

02:23:39 --> 02:23:40

donation for the people who

02:23:42 --> 02:23:44

accept data from you and give you the agenda.

02:23:45 --> 02:23:51

Today is the 24th of may and Hamdulillah. But I mean, your

02:23:51 --> 02:23:56

videos and couturiers donation is still doing here in the summertime

02:23:56 --> 02:23:56

for you.

02:23:59 --> 02:24:02

All right, very good. Very good, everyone. So look at all that

02:24:02 --> 02:24:06

wheat. Love as our logo is there. Um, dilla we're very happy to be

02:24:06 --> 02:24:10

part of this initiative. You guys it's not like your money's just

02:24:10 --> 02:24:14

going in there. See the logos you can see that the culture a proof

02:24:15 --> 02:24:16

got a picture's

02:24:19 --> 02:24:20

worth it all that.

02:24:21 --> 02:24:25

Think about it, like the stuff you have spent a few bucks on pizza,

02:24:25 --> 02:24:28

right? But you don't need that and look, that's that's a much

02:24:29 --> 02:24:29

better place.

02:24:33 --> 02:24:36

So I'm gonna send him links soon, but very good. Very good. Do this.

02:24:37 --> 02:24:40

Put the links up for the donations. Okay.

02:24:41 --> 02:24:46

Look, man is wondering how is aid getting in? I think what they do

02:24:46 --> 02:24:49

is the businesses are in Jordan.

02:24:50 --> 02:24:54

The bank account sorry, are in Jordan. And how was the food

02:24:54 --> 02:24:58

getting in? A lot? Good question. Can he answer that? How are they

02:24:58 --> 02:24:59

getting all this wheat in there?

02:25:00 --> 02:25:03

She didn't even tell us how to do I don't know why maybe if we say

02:25:03 --> 02:25:04

that no sort of down.

02:25:06 --> 02:25:07

Ladies, gentlemen,

02:25:08 --> 02:25:13

we had a nice long good stream and keep in mind the night of the

02:25:13 --> 02:25:15

hedger begins tonight

02:25:16 --> 02:25:19

Saudi has seen the moon but don't they always right?

02:25:21 --> 02:25:24

So call us we'll, we'll take it from them this time around and

02:25:24 --> 02:25:28

we'll treat it as if it had Joe has begun tonight Maga. So what do

02:25:28 --> 02:25:34

we do is the night that before mark it up, clip your nails, trim

02:25:34 --> 02:25:37

your beard as much as you want your mustache because from here

02:25:37 --> 02:25:42

on, it's a light sunnah to not trim your nails or your hair, any

02:25:42 --> 02:25:45

hair on your body. So remove it all today before

02:25:46 --> 02:25:50

then for the next nine days won't do that. And for the next nine

02:25:50 --> 02:25:53

days, we're going to double and triple our recitation of Quran and

02:25:53 --> 02:25:56

a better that means you may sacrifice something else.

02:25:57 --> 02:26:02

sacrifice other times wastes or waste of time, so that you double

02:26:02 --> 02:26:06

and triple your time in a bed. And then on the ninth, of course,

02:26:07 --> 02:26:11

fasting, if not the first eight days of that Elijah, starting from

02:26:11 --> 02:26:17

tomorrow, definitely, definitely then the ninth. Your modified and

02:26:17 --> 02:26:20

that's the day take off from work. When was that Saturday? Saturday?

02:26:20 --> 02:26:26

Yeah, take off from work take off everything. All right. Subhanak

02:26:26 --> 02:26:27

Allahu mobilehome Michelle

02:26:28 --> 02:26:33

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02:26:33 --> 02:26:37

Occulus illAllah. Deena ammonoid Minnesota HURT What was overhyped

02:26:37 --> 02:26:40

Courtois so a suburb was salam aleikum wa rahmatullah?

02:27:07 --> 02:27:07

To see Joe

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boom

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got eBay see

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