Shadee Elmasry – Interview Shaykh Tabraze Azam NBF 294
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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim hamdulillah Al hamdu lillah wa
Salatu was Salam ala Rasulillah while he was a happy human well I
welcome everybody to the Safina society nothing but facts live
stream on
a pretty nippy and rainy Tuesday on the brink of a state of
emergency storm that we have going here around five o'clock. We have
a declared state of emergency which means jersey is going to be
flooded out Central Jersey is going to be full of rain. As you
know we are streaming live from the Laconia Studios here in
the LA Cosina building on the third floor and today we have with
us a special guests. Sheikh Tabriz is here for a Hanafi intensive
that is sold out, going to be packed and is going to go from
Thursday to Friday, Friday evening, all the way to Sunday. So
from Friday, Monday, all the way to Sunday 10pm. There's going to
be 100 FIP being taught A to Z. Are you teaching a specific
medicine or is it going to be different sessions on different
Hanafy subjects?
Smell?
Festivals definitely thank you for having us.
Thank you for coming and thank you for
braving yourself I know these these cross continental tours are
not easy unhealth they're not easy on sleep. They're not easy in on
anything but we thank you for coming and welcome you to the to
the program. Yeah, balaclava calm. Yeah, hopefully you can put up
with my voice kind of working together. Oh, we're all we all
got? It
seems like you're working on something too. But
yes, we have a few different things happening. Actually, we
were going to be covering about five or six different texts. So I
specifically tried to choose
texts, which, as some
some of the brothers have pointed out sometimes tend to be a bit
more on the obscure side.
And it's these people are still the same scholars who wrote the
big important books, but they also have some time is shorter on a set
is shorter treatises, shorter, shorter works, which were written
sometimes for various reasons. Sometimes there are beginner texts
and the like.
So we are doing a selection of those. And inshallah I hope that
all Russia allottee is something enjoyable for everybody who
attends and we can all walk away with something of benefit.
Wonderful. So today, folks, if you have questions, specifically on
the Hanafi school, this is the day to bring them. Okay, first
question. Recently,
BJP leader was brought to Madina Munawwara
and add something of in I don't know, interview photo upset
session, right in front of the masjid of the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa salam okay. What is the Hanafi ruling on moshtix kitab is
entering the holy cities
so the HANA fees
they don't
there's no
okay.
So so they don't have any specific prohibition against non Muslims
being present in the holy cities. Right. So it is actually possible
for somebody who is not a Muslim, to be present in the holiest of
cities. So both Mecca and Medina to they can visit? Yeah, this is
possible. What about entering a masjid? Can a masjid in a cafe
enter a mystery? Yeah, so this is also possible, right? So it's also
possible for them to enter into the masjid and stuff. And we're
hopeful that some of these types of things.
They're good for our purposes, right? So people can enter into
the massage, get the sequence, see what's happening, and maybe
there'll be influenced positively by that. In common understandings.
It has been said that or people come they perceive that non
Muslims are not allowed to enter Mecca and Medina. What's the
reason for them?
Sure, it seems Of course, yeah, the fair grammatic you feel Yeah,
it seems like of course, I'm sure everybody has seen those great
signs. Yeah. When you're entering into the holy city is that if
you're not a Muslim, then exit exit here. So certainly some of
the meta heads to uphold that. non Muslims can't actually enter
such such places
and and it's up to the authorities to decide which position they're
going to be adopting with respect to these types of issues. So in
and of itself, it's not a problem according to hifi, as some others
might deem
and they do that it is a problem. So the authorities are those who
are going to determine what's acceptable, what's not. So, the
methods differ on entrance of non Muslims into Mecca and Medina. Med
hubs also differ on nonbelievers entering the mosque period.
medikidz do not allow non believers to enter a mosque. He
could learn about Islam elsewhere.
What about residents in Mecca and Medina
taking a home there and buying a home and becoming a resident?
She I don't recall anything specific about this issue.
So it's,
I should probably withhold judgment. I don't recall seeing
anything about it.
Yeah, I'm not sure. Okay. Here's another question for you.
Most of you had the thene. The six books came from purse
parts of Malwa not area that were Sheffy in their leanings. So we
know that Bukhari and Muslim came and Chef a Arias is how cabinet a
hallway because his teacher was was loved chef and believed in
chef as well. So
this questioner is asking, Why aren't there any major Medabots
that were Hanafy?
Like, why did this never happen? early on? And I can extend it I
could say listen,
there weren't 100 These are Medicare's either, right? The six
major six books were not. But what why were there Hanafy is absent in
Hadith gathering.
Awesome. Can you bring pull this over? He bring it up.
So mm body is quite interesting.
Because we actually, we actually did this.
Yeah, we had a session last night,
where we're reading something off a what was titled in defense of
Abu Hanifa it's like, it's almost like some apologetic, the seller
was defending Hanifa from accusations for those who might
accuse him and his malherbe of not following this enough, the Prophet
alayhi salaatu wa salam. So it actually came up, that it comes up
in other places to, like surgically Zetta, who was like a
12th century
Ottoman scholar who mentions it in his study Blooom it's mentioned
elsewhere, in some of the double quotes, literature, but to
remember Heidi is Harlan right in bajada is is a Hanafi city, right?
It's one of these who ruled this place. So there might have been
some sapphires around but this it's a key Hanafi stronghold and
city. So
even remember, hottie is probably ending up at a Hanafi madressa
maktab kind of
you know, his early learning of how to practice Islam is going to
be Hanafi
and then later on of course, it's
it's actually the Hanafi is they actually say it's a house COVID
house I'll Kebede is one of the major students of Imam Mohammed
Abdullah Hassan, a che Burnie who was the one of the foremost
youngest students of Imam Abu Hanifa himself. So this is the
grand student of Imam Abu Hanifa actually recognized as some type
of aptitude in in Imam sorry, in it, mm body
for Hadith, so he's the one who actually
encouraged emember hottie to tread this path of the MaHA defin. So
surgically that actually mentions this
to give an example of how teachers should be more been that should be
watching out for their students and and giving them the kind of
benefit and giving them the kind of mercy which will be in their
lasting benefit not in their own personal interest. No, I'd rather
you become a fatty right but they actually saw that he would be
better suited for Hadith. They actually sent him off. So so that
aside, we also know remember hottie of course, is not a he was
a Shafi right? He was like they consider him to be like an
independent, which then has many of these early Monday clean were
somewhat some of them were kind of
ascribe right to the chef as perhaps necessity and some of
these kinds, but boy
Consider Azul was the ahaadeeth Write a show. There's some
correspondence there. Yeah. So um,
but But it's like you said to be honest, like where? Where the
magic is? Right? So where are the where? Where's everyone else? It's
not like everyone was on a level right? And then say okay, let's go
gather Hadith and only one group Well, exactly quite the opposite
right? Is because a chef a elevated the ahead Hadith. Good.
That's what drove the
those leaning to that fic okay to gather Hadith, right?
The opposite so is the chef a school that there was for some
people who are listening and make sure that you know maybe they
don't know what we're talking talking about the difference in
the four schools of thought the biggest difference that puts a
separation between the first two schools and the second two schools
is the arrowhead had the what is it had Hadith it's a sound report
back to the prophet that comes from only one maybe two sources
only.
Good. The Hanif is an Maliki's. They did not view this as the
strongest source if it contradicted the practice, the
wider spread practice of the companions and the next
generation, be it in Medina or Kufa.
The chef he said, No, no, no, this is the strongest, stronger than
anything else. Which really leads me to the next question that I
have for you.
Do the HANA fees in there also, you'll have something similar to
the amount of Ellen Medina, which is that the practice of the
elders of Kufa, the scholars, were children and grandchildren,
children of companions. Is there something similar in the Hanafi?
School?
Yeah, this is a really good question. It's a really important
question, actually, because
it shows as you as you pointed out that there's a lot of similarity
in these earlier mothership. In these earlier math hubs. They are
very Sahaba centric. As you also pointed out, there's a lot of
emphasis now on these singular quote unquote, reports the Hubbard
warhead, which manifests in some of the later traditions later, med
hubs such as, of course, epitomized by Imam Sheffield one
Allahu down alley, but the earlier mill hubs, just like the Maliki's
have the sawmill and Medina.
Imam Hamad Al Gore three
pointed out that this idea of the armor and water wore off
a coffin I'm
at some level is also something that's part of the Hanafi
tradition. Except there's one one thing which would perhaps
distinguish Abu Hanifa ZWave from perhaps Malik sway something which
again, I made a comment about in yesterday's session, which is the
idea that Juanita is a bit more open to taking
the the Sunnah, right. So if the Sahaba are doing something as
representative sunnah, this is the point and that it's not
necessarily 100 Why this singular report, but it's more the fact
that the Sahaba of this place are or the students of the Sahaba are
behaving in a certain way.
And they are the beacons of sunnah. So he is open to taking
sunnah from the Moroccans. Right? From the medina ins from the
coffins, right? So he's not restricted by place. He considers
all of these people to be footballer, but they might be a
stronger influence, like a cufon influence. Right? So it's good for
the influences, certainly there. But he's not restricted. Like if
you go back to see sometimes, if you trace it sometimes, I'm
delighted when I best, for example, is trumping. For example,
I'd like Minnesota,
literally, but you get the idea that like this, this choice
happening like this, and this is all part of Indiana and so so
you're not actually limiting.
Right? They don't limit right Cooper. Cooper has this spot,
right? Because there's no reason to limit Kufa. Medina, you could
say has its virtues and has things said about it, so that that would
make sense, but Kufa excuse
is not limited, but there is a concept that there's actions that
happen
that are that there. There's a type of consensus that would
override a single chained Hadith. Correct. Same concept. Chef, he
came and he said, No, no, no, none of that. It's the sink gold chain.
in Hadith, and that's it.
So when we talk about this then
it's the chef chef phrase, love of that concepts and belief in that
concept that drove chef A's to be Hadith collectors. Okay. So nobody
should get this mixed up and confused that as if to say that
all the metal hubs had their opportunities, but only the Shafi
has ended up being the best authors of these books. So it's
not the case that's not what happened. Okay, now let's talk
about another subject. We're going from also to furore, we're going
various different subjects, you have a mashallah Hanafi X expert
onboard and people really want to know, is it Assad, we now go to
the chapter of
slaughter. Slaughtered meats is the facade of the head and to the
knife, a prerequisite and Hanafi fiqh for slaughtering such that if
it was
a machine,
and I had a camel over there, or a sheep over there, and I have it
controlled, and the knife is right there, and I can hit a button. And
that knife will surgically cut the throat and just Mala click the
button, and it happens. Can you tell us if the to Saul of the hand
to the knife is necessary?
Yeah, so I guess this is a question over here, right? Because
you guys, I've heard about this distinction before I, it seems
very odd to us, but it's the it's the halal versus the Vihara.
Right. It's like that's a very, very old sheen slaughtered versus
right. So so they will say that one thing is halal, right. But
it's not as if they say the animal is headed.
So the Arabs have a little trick, right? This is this is wrong.
Right? Like, for example,
Tyson's chicken or regular regular chicken from a supermarket. The
pointer has had, yeah, the animal is Hello. But, but it's not
Serbia. But within the world of people who believe in Zubia meat,
there is hand slaughtered, and machines slaughtered this
discussion. So the real owners of the question really comes on two
parts, the first part of it is
does the hand have to be connected to the item of slaughter? Because
that's the difference between the hands? That's the first difference
between hand slaughter and the machine.
Otherwise, what if I had a knife that's, that can travel for 10
meters?
And I say Bismillah. And I cut the animal from 10 meters 10 meters
away? What's the difference between that and a knife?
Yeah.
Or I could put a knife in the hand of a robot, or a machine or a
machine and hold the goat to that machine. Right. And then the
machine could come and hold it and cut the knife. So does that cut
the throat? So that's the main question is that?
Yeah, that they asked, there's a human element, which is part of
all of this. And that's why there are two types of that. You have
the cat, which is a slaughter, which is FDA, what they call FDA,
which is the fact that I can I can actively get the animal, put a
knife in my hand and actually slaughter it. Well, you have the
cat with his filter already. So it already is the case where you
would hunt it, right. So it's like I've seen deer all over the place.
So we actually they were telling me the brothers that were telling
me about this deer around here, then all of a sudden, I've been
seeing deer everywhere. I didn't see anything before that maybe I
was just tired. But I didn't really notice anything for that.
But the idea is that
there has to be some human component. It's not like you send
off a gun like a drone with like a weapon. And it goes into something
and then you're just like, Oh, they're like it's gonna bring back
like a deer for you. And that's it's done.
So that's why in the same way, you can't just have like a machine
that kind of you press a button it slaughters like 25 chickens and
you go home and say mashallah, I've got all these slaughtered
chickens rather, the has to be and that's why the Hanafi school the
condition for permissibility even for you don't want some sometimes
there's a popular appeal to like the bomb and we get that because
it's mentioned in the Quran, but will attack Hello mama let me call
this Mala Hey Ali. Right so but also don't eat from that which the
name of Allah subhanho wa Taala has not been pronounced. So this
shot this condition of mentioning the vestment that needs to happen
on the animal itself. So you have to hold the knife in your hand.
You have to see the smell and you have to this is when it's deemed
lawful. It can't just kind of cut on its own
Are I'm here, I say Bismillah. I'm looking at the Android there,
boom, and a football field away the machine X response to my
button.
And it cuts it with that, because now we've eliminated the best with
the elimination of The Best Spinner is it makes renders the
meat impermissible. I'm saying we in the example I give you
eliminated the absence of the Mesbah.
We're specifying the best Mala for that animal and saying Bismillah
right. Button. Okay, fine. And far, far away. The machine is
cutting the fine, fine, fine. So this is this is when
there's other other agrilus
Yeah, analysis issues, which, which we could also
consider.
But, but it can't be like, you know, again, it's, it's almost
like I say, the best printer in my shirt. Yeah. And then I press this
button, and then like, like, 300 miles away, like, some why is that
different? Yeah, somebody gets, because again, it returns to the
idea of the what legitimizes the the lawfulness of that meat is the
best Mullah which is immediately followed by the like, it makes the
taking of this role. lawful. Right. So that that, like, the
consequence of that
immediately manifests within the meat. Good.
Okay, so the best manner has to be within the what the earshot of the
animal, what is the distance,
if the best mirror is what really truly renders the, they say, the
best villa is supposed to be on the Mahal.
And the man is here, right? So it's like, this is the man. So
that's why we take issue for example, with with some of the,
for example, the bomb of Al Kitab, like the People of the Book, for
example, when they have like, you know, 30 animals, and they just
say one bestseller, and then cook, then we would say, this is all
haram. Okay, according to us all haram so what about No, I'm
getting hypothetical. earlier. I'm getting a little bit.
Lawyer ish here, but I just like to know, sure. What if I had a
mic?
Okay, then. So I'm far away. But I have a loudspeaker and I speak in
the microphone, say Bismillah on the fart chicken that's far away
from me there. But how are you going to soldier with the machine?
So in the same way that I have an, it's an extended knife, I have an
extended voice now.
Is it possible to make an argument for something like this?
Perhaps. But the issue is in the real world doesn't work like this,
right? Because what happens is people there's a button, which is
presses like, you know, 100,000 Chickens are slaughtered that day.
Yeah. So so it's, it's all well and good, perhaps we can justify
like one, right? Or something like that. But, but to go to for
somebody, for example, sort of like somebody online just
misunderstand that this makes like machine slaughtered. Okay. It
might be that in the specific example, that you're that you're
giving, that maybe this could work, maybe we could figure out a
system to make this work because there has to be a connection.
There has to be a connection between the animal the individual
and the vessel. Yes. And that's why they they take issue with for
example, what if somebody else had the masala right and then somebody
else cut? Yeah, right. So all of these types of issues are really
important. Right? So for everybody understand the Hanafi school
requires the best mela
and the animal and the cutting really to be unified between only
three items, the knife, the slaughter and the animal and they
should be in one man. That's a good summary to where to put it
sounds good. Okay, good. Now, here's another foot I issue.
The hoof is an acceptance is an exception.
Two will do
to Hana fees just Hanafi fiqh allow
and PS analogy to be made on an exception thereby weakened. Wipe
over waterproof suck.
No, you're going to take my place for one minute when I have to go
downstairs real quick and you're going to
Ask these questions. But this the first question, could you ask me a
question? What's the question again is as false, the following
question ends up being can I make wudu? Over waterproof sock? Okay,
that's like the foot a question. Right. But those solely part of
that that really is the Femara. Can analogy be made on an
exception? Here?
Can analogy be made on an exemption? While you answer that
I'm gonna run downstairs. Can you show show?
Yeah, yeah.
Where's the remote?
I pressed it by accident
should I carry on?
Okay, so there's, there's two things here
the first thing is this, just the the or solely concept?
Which is the idea of doing TLS on cases of what's termed in hanfu
filk is the SN which is a departure from the TLS. The TLS is
the normative legal ruling.
And the is the Sun is a departure from that
from amongst the conditions of the law, can I
can I put it on
so for amongst the conditions of
OTS
is that the original ruling cannot be an exceptional case.
So there's never any is the Sun, which is the basis for ATS. That's
why there's a principle method better Isla de la flts For you,
who i Li allow you costs that which is established, contrary to
the Ts, either normal line of legal reasoning,
then you don't use that for the basis for some other type of
extension I ts
This is why
the is the Hassan here
is a type of Rothko, right. But also is something whereby the
ruling has been made somewhat lighter, somewhat easier. So
that's why we also have a general rule that there's no class on
Rojas. Right? It's only appears on Isaiah and not on Rosa. We will
also is already the ruling has changed. Right. So. So that's just
from an all solely perspective, right? So that just helps us to
understand the sunny side of things.
If we go back to the original question now, where somebody's
asking about waterproof socks, this is not a question now. of Ts,
right?
Because there's an entirely different concept that the idea of
the hoof is based upon.
So that's why when they talk about
a song, this is distinct, the, to the nature of a hoof, as it were,
because the hoof was something that was walked extensively in,
right, so the Sahaba the early generations, they would wear
something that's from this extremely thick
cat and it's almost like this camel leather or whatever they
they had, but it's like some, you know, large and they will come
quite high up to the right so what happens is people
excuse me become accustomed to what what they see around them.
Right so and then they consider what they read in the books. It's
the same thing you see at your Islamic superstore. Man, what do
you guys call it here?
Would you call it Islamic shop? Yeah, just just a song shop.
Okay, so it's like that. So it's like, what do you see and then
somebody says waterproof sock and say, quote, like in brackets like
off right? As like and the everybody thinks the same thing
isn't the there's no no one the Sahaba used to wear is what the
Prophet alayhi salaatu wa Salaam and the Sahaba used to wear
there's something else. So.
So is it legitimate? It's not legitimate because it's an
extension.
An off that because do people walk around and socks?
Right? People don't walk around and socks, but the Sahaba did used
to walk around in Huff's.
Right. So.
So the sock, however, is, although it's not the position of Imam Abu
Hanifa.
So Abu Hanifa said that it's only legitimate to wipe over something
which you can walk in extensively. And that's why his condition was
that it needs to be,
for example completely as to be like leather sold at the very
least. So we're not talking about waterproofness as Yeah, we're
talking about walking, right Subhan Allah, this is why we're
benefiting from
Hanafi FIP. Because our whole
understanding premise was not even right. It's not about
waterproofing this. It's about that you can walk in Okay,
continue.
I think it was just for us, Romania that did this. But he had
some of his students just like as a test walk around, I think it was
three miles in the like, normal socks to construct. So we were and
he found that they were durable enough that they could have walked
a few more miles and it still would have been like, no rips. And
this is fine. Many people have done this right. Many, many people
have done this. Abu Hanifa. Like the shelf is that you can walk
around without the glove? No, like, oh, boy without avoid, avoid
the stones avoid the Oh, it's like, yeah, they all came out this
is on their feet. How is that? Yeah, you know, which the hubba
like, that's not a normal thing. That's why the equivalent of what
the so one, when we have classes, and I talked to people about the
horse, I show them examples of like the kind of boots that you
combine the high street, or whatever the equivalent the High
Street is over here. But the you know, the popular kind of boots
that people wear. And it's like, these types of things actually
more representative of hosts from the time of the sahaba. Right, so
this is the kind of thing that they would have been wearing. Now
the Saudi bein the two main companions of Imam Abu Hanifa, Abu
Yusuf and Muhammad, they were a bit more expensive. How so on the
basis of another is this n, which is that note not only can you wipe
over holes, like Abu Hanifa said, but you can also wipe over socks.
So what is a sock now again, the sock is not just everything that
we were against not exactly like the same thing that we wear.
But it's it was something that was worn
in which which is not used for walking. Nice. Don't walk in it.
Yeah, you put you put warm Yeah, yeah, you keep some of the
benefits that keeps your foot nice and warm and keeps your protects
you from like the coarseness of the leather, if you're wearing
like horses or something like that, so well not close, but
whatever, like a sandal or something, you know, the harshness
of the desert, you know, perhaps like the sand and so on. So your
feet are going to be protective. So some theory that in it, there's
some benefit in it. So, so because of this
what they termed thick socks, they deemed that to be acceptable this
the there's a position now of the Sahibi. Right. So so they said
this is okay to my point. So it is that which you which a person can
walk around in the streets without to cut it off. To cut love means
burden. Correct? Right. So this is an analogy. This is Abu Hanifa 's
position. This is why if you're wearing boots when you're out and
about you can wipe over them you can just pray. I see. You don't
have to remove them can pray like but but now practically.
People will buy like, as you mentioned, like was the question I
asked like, like waterproof socks, right? Because it's more
convenient, right? Because they might enter a mosque. Right? So
then I can at least I can continue to wipe over them. Okay, so this
is like the benefit of being able to access something like that
follow up questions. Does the leather of the shoe that the
person's wearing have to be or really here's a better question.
So the question is half of knowledge right? Does tanning
nones the vehicle leather render it pure
render that leather pure because if I take an animal that's dead
or was not slaughtered properly, that's not just the whole animals
notice. Now we come to the question does tanning that leather
purified that and adjusted
so that we can now use it where it pray with it? So you just made me
pray over that kangaroo skin over that? Yes, I did.
So that was a hello, Andrew. Shout out to basketball almost Gioia
that
I just launched if you try to slaughter you have to hunt this
Mala?
Yeah. So I just prayed on like
The kangaroo
skin, but so so we deem it to be permissible, right so as long as
it's tanned even if it was like a dead carcass that you found so you
remove the skin and you tend to properly this would be acceptable
for everyday use and Salah for you Salah for wearing for everything.
It's completely. Okay. And does the so the white matter that's
wiped upon? Doesn't even have to be leather it could be partially
leather partially rubber partially? Yes, I know. Yeah, but
Hanif has no condition of leather. He says his condition is, as long
as you can walk extensively in it.
As long as you're walking extensively in it, it can be
anything. It's a beautiful method. I have to say because that it does
really, it does really make sense, right? Yes, yeah, that make sure
you cut that bit out really does make sense. It's something that
you walk in it and it has to cover your ankle, of course, doesn't
have to cover of course, you have to cover the entire area. And
that's why this it's good for both men and women, right? Because even
ladies wear like longer, kind of boots and the legs so they can
also take advantage of these positions to when they're out and
about. Now of course if he takes them off, it's akin to breaking
the window.
He has to have would do on first would do first then where's Of
course then he takes him off. He's gotta redo a whole correct he's
gonna just wash his if he's if he broke with if he broke although
then you have to do the whole thing. But if he hadn't, we'll do
a took them off, like accidentally or something. You'd have to wash
his feet. Wonderful. Wonderful. Okay, next question. Now we are
headed to the subject matter of the prayer.
Does the Hanafi school believe or hold? I don't want to say the word
belief because that sounds like copied. Does it Diem.
The followers prayer valid if the Imams prayer is valid in any other
school?
So that's a principle does the Hanafi school uphold that
principle that if the Salah is valid in your mouth hope? Oh Imam,
Shafi, Maliki Hanafi? Humbly? That is valid for me as a follower of
the mill. Does the Hanafi school observe that rule? Or not?
So, so, so the 100 thieves would say,
what counts is your meth head? Not the meth head of the Imam.
So, so even if he does something which would invalidate For
example, His model, according to his math hip, but it doesn't
invalidate according to your math hub, then your prayer is valid.
Vice versa, no. And similarly, the opposite, right? whereby he does
something which invalidates your prayer, according to your madhhab.
But it doesn't invalidate the prayer, according to his method,
your prayers invalid. But of course, something like that will
be extremely rare.
So the summary is no answer is no. In the Hanafi, the Hanafi school
does not recognize the principle that if the Salah is valid in any
of the format hubs by the Imam, then it's valid for the follow
correct. So that means
if you see me, for example, on the member, right, and I scratching a
scab while I'm given the cookbook,
and well, I start bleeding from that scab.
And it's dripping.
And I just take a tissue or handkerchief and tap it off. What
am I bothered, my would do hasn't been lost in my mother, then I go
on, I lead your Salah you can pray? Right? Correct. Correct. So
what would now let's go to the practical element of that, because
I just gave you, by the way, FIP is all about hypotheticals so that
we can learn the principle. Right? Don't say that Absurd
Hypothetical. No, when it's not a hypothetical for the sake of what
if this happens, what if that happens? That's not the spirit of
Islam, the hypothetical is free to accentuate a principle you
understand? A principle? So what are practically speaking, what is
something that would invalidate the salah? According to the Hanafi
school, but not according to
the other schools? Bleeding aside, because we have already mentioned
bleeding
in practice,
to be honest, I mean, the Hanafi school is
you know, the integrals are only few, few is only like, five,
right? So it's very straightforward. So it's actually
quite difficult to break the only the bleeding wondering
if he says, If he starts talking in the salon or something, I'm not
sure if any mentor would validate that if he gets corrected. Okay. I
mean, what do you mean?
household got corrected? He's not talking.
Correct?
Yeah, perhaps this would be a case. Yeah. So for example,
somebody who is not part of the congregation, right? corrects the
Imam, because the Imam, nobody in the congregation is helping him.
Perhaps he's kind of stuck in his recitation.
So somebody sees it, like a passerby or something, and then he
takes it,
then this would invalidate, so maybe he thinks it's fine. But for
the Hanafi, this would invalidate his a lot. Okay.
Wiping on the sock would also not be an acceptable way to correct.
Not acceptable. Wiping on this depends on the nature of the sock,
right? Because we talked about No, like a non walking sock.
So this is what the Abu Hanifa his two companions isn't what they
were talking about. They said sucks. You don't walk in socks?
That's what they said. Yeah, correct. Okay, so really, it's
practically speaking. It's really only two things. Right? The
bleeding, which is very rare, from between voodoo and Salah that you
bleed? And if the person wipes over socks, and you don't see
them, or what about the question of assumptions?
Like practically speaking, if I hear a Mufti giving fatwa that you
can wipe over sock, do I then maybe not? What is the Hanafi?
ruling? I'm praying behind them?
Okay, yeah. So praying. So wiping over socks now, is
it's not going to be legitimate to wipe over socks. And unless those
socks are legitimate for wiping over go.
What we would affirm is that if they have
disappeared from your view, even if only momentarily,
then you cannot.
It may well be may well have been that they have, they've actually
washed their feet in that time. And you are unaware. Right? So
it's, it's only really applicable in the sense where you literally
are watching, I went surfing Yeah, you're an eyewitness, you're
observing somebody performed the entirety of their will do. Even in
some of those cases, it might be that the person already has
mobile, right. So and they just, it's just for convenient, you
know, just trying to get so out. But it also just saving a bit of
time, because they're going to need the prep, so they just wiped
over and you're like, oh, no, you won't be renewed is. Yeah, so he
already had wobble. Yeah. And he's just kind of going through, you
know, you just renewing his wobble. But just for convenience
sake, you just kind of wiped over his socks or whatever.
Whatever. He might have his reasons. Yeah. Right. So so it's
difficult and that's sometimes you have to kind of go beyond but this
this shitty task you now with, tell me your life story. Tell me
whether you have will do tell me whether you do? Why previous? Or
is this a regular thing you do? What type of socks are those, take
them off, I need to investigate right hits like the shitty I never
toss you with doing all of those types of things. So so the the
normal basis, the operating assumption is to have a good
opinion of people.
Unless you have strong reason, right? And you're an eyewitness
and everything has been talked about. And then.
So merely having the belief in that fatwah or holding that fatwah
would not render the Scylla behind him sinful
or invalid, but it would you would need to see them actually doing
that.
Since you'd actually need to see them coming out of the stall then
wiping over their sock. Exactly. You need to see that you need to
see the whole process thing, the whole thing and you're not tasked
for investigating this no good. So if you happen to see that then you
have a problem in the Hanafi school. Yeah, question.
So my question it may seem a little bit unrelated but um there
is a relationship on
the B HMI and on the question on how far do we have to investigate
for like, because say for example, among the medic here we have the
principle was still declining Muslim female call. So like, what
exactly is the line
between you know, like doing your due diligence and you know,
actually delving into detail because just one thing that I came
across when I was researching this is that they mentioned that the of
like, believing whether someone is you know, their their meat is
slaughtered properly or
not, it's not from the bathtub of shahada, but rather it's about of
a buyer and a seller being honest about their product. So it's two
different things between believing someone on had on meat versus
like, you know, believing their testimony and whatnot. I don't
know if that question is completely clear. Could you repeat
it? So the idea is that how far do we have to go? And if we know
that, say, for example, one person takes a fatwa, or one person is
doing dishonesty, say one restaurant is doing dishonesty in
their in their dealings when it comes to this? Can we extrapolate
that to all of the Muslims say, for example, in New Jersey are now
suspect? And now we have to investigate for all of them.
Yeah, again, the big question is a
we turn this to be
a couple of Dini Harbor, Dini is a religious report. It's like
somebody telling you, for example, that this place is, is by here,
you can pray here.
The month of Ramadan has begun.
Are some time has started. Right. And so similarly, saying that this
meat is halal is a hover Dini
so, so if an upright Muslim tells you that the program has started,
or that this place is far ahead, or that this meat is halal, that's
fine, you can believe him. There's no problem with this. The issue
however, in these types of eateries, and restaurants, and
takeaways, and all of these types of places, they're not
slaughtering.
So there's like, a chain, there's a whole chain. Exactly. It's like
a whole chain of five or 10 people, between them the actual
slaughter, right, so one guy slaughtered it. And then another
guy boxset, another guy, put it in the lorry or the van, another guy
delivered it, another guy dropped it off. Now they go hand it to the
butcher, right? And then and then and then the butcher cuts it. And
then the butcher gets offended when you say,
right? It's like, there's like five or six people? How do you
know? Right? So it's like, it's one thing to say that we believe.
If you slaughtered it, you told me is how I'm gonna believe you.
Right? But that's assuming that you're, you have adalah because
the question of somebody being an upright Muslim is also important.
And upright Muslim, is somebody who has not publicly and openly
corrupt. So if you don't pray, right, and if you don't fast
Ramadan,
or if you engage, or you're drinking alcohol, you're doing
anything, which is from the Kibera air, or in any of the major sins
publicly and openly, then there's no, there's no, like, there's no
reason for anybody to believe that what you say is true, even though
you might be telling the truth on this issue. Because this, these
types of things are signs that you have no religious concern, right?
These are signs of risk. So you say so you say there how do you
know brother? It's because I know the brother delivery guy. He's a
good guy, guy. He's a good guy, you know him, he's a vessel.
And it's like, okay, well, like it's like Hadith. You know? So
what do you do you have to check the next guy then we check the
next day and like everyone's like an upright Okay, and then the
second we know the guy at the end, he did the slaughter. And you
know, this like senate is sloppy. Then you can say yeah, the Hello,
the meat is halal. is also is hotma. The apostle is that meat is
haram. So it has to be proven halal. And the Sharia obligates
this kind of, to what degree does is should you obligate that
research?
Well, in a time when people continue to consume blindly
fulfill Nisha Howard, even in the UK, even recently, Muslim Muslim
students in in just a public school, were being fed what they
thought was halal meat was all haram.
still happening, like 2002 that way for now. So it's like, you'd
think that this stuff was happening like 20 years ago, 30
years ago, and still outside those circles speak to people in the
industry, there's still a lot of dodgy stuff. I was telling some
people recently, it's like, if you look at some of the stance,
Muslims make up a tiny percentage of the population of the UK, but
they consume a massive amount of the meat. So they know even the
non Muslims know that these people are massive customers. Right? So
it's easy for people to kind of want jump in and want to get, you
know, get their piece of meat, right.
excuse the pun, but you know, so it's so you have to be very
careful. Like why is it that say meat is not necessity, right? And
so just Just be careful. Right? And then you know, people then
they complain, right? Is that Oh, I can't get married? As like my
daughters are not answered. Right. I have
troubles in my life as yet because the Prophet Alia Salatu was Salam
told us write the story on our children a chef about your mood do
they hate us? Raise disheveled dust color, you know, covered with
dust extends out his hands towards the sky, your own we are a big Rob
Right pleading with his Lord. Oh my lord, my lord, my lord, or my
time whoo hoo haram. The first thing the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam said, but his food is haram. Well, my shabu
haram and his drink is haram. Well, Besu haram, and his clothing
is haram. For use that you have believe delegate, how on earth
will such a person be responded to? Right? And so it's like, do
your due diligence, right? So and don't just. And that's why we need
to develop like institutions and support institutions that are kind
of working to verify these types of things is a very, very
important for us as communities. So you need to know that your
restaurant owner or the manager running the restaurant or some
sign
of testimony from them, and they essentially are not just they're
vouching for you for the Senate, the whole Senate. Right. So that's
how you're going to operate, you need to make sure that if you
enter a restaurant and he's selling part alcohol and part
meat, then it's going to be you're going to need more information
because it is fraud. fathomable that the manager of the meat is
the righteous or of the cooking part of the restaurant is
righteous. But the owner said, Alright, we're putting a bar on
the other side. So it is fathomable that that meat is still
held up, but you have to write, you have to put an effort in
finding out who is running this restaurant.
Who can vouch that this is truly how to write and that's that's
what you have to do as a Muslim. Now, let's let me ask you another
question before we get to ossifer hermits
going berserk here on the chat, but because he said something that
I find I'm going to disagree with right now.
If someone doesn't action that is different upon in the Muda.
That is hello for one month have been haram for another.
And does the Hanafi school downgrade that sinfulness
and he would not be a vessel. For example. A guy comes in let's say
at a restaurant and he's openly eating a lobster right in front of
me. Now for 100 feet he'd be it's a different upon mustard It's
haram to do that in the Hanafi school. But we would the Hanafi
madhhab deem him offensive for not following Hanif ism in furore, or
would he be No, he's not a facet, because he's a Shafi and he's
allowed to do that.
So the label of being a fast and reliable Muslim. Yeah. So so this
doesn't, it's not only about
it's not only about sins, actually. So fist can also
manifest manifest through Houtman Moodle, which are things that
affect your uprightness, even if only customarily. So so even if
something is
is a minus in if it's done, like it's not a major sin, right. So,
so something like that. Is, is,
obviously it's impermissible Right to Consume lobster, according to
according to the 100 views. So, so somebody who does that, right, on
a regular basis, like openly and the fact that become known for,
you know, eating it and so this might become like an issue, then
as a one off, it's not fist, right? It's not a it's never
you're not religiously corrupt, like,
like just off the cuff like, you know, as it were, you have to be
like known as such. Otherwise, the default is that people aren't this
religiously upright. That's why actually we go beyond this, right?
This is why they talk about things like what about eating publicly?
Right.
So even now, I guess everybody would still agree that relieving
oneself in public places is still it's not haram right? If somebody
remains covered up, but the idea is that it's grossly
inappropriate. You mean you mean go to the bathroom in the corner
somewhere? Right Just like in a public like people are walking.
Yeah, like everybody would deem that to be like, gross, like go to
the public restrooms like, yeah, like go to the restroom, not in
the woods, like on just like in the middle of like, where people
are walking around, right? Just like in a corner somewhere. It's
like people still consider that to be like completely gross. So
somebody who becomes known for doing something like this right?
Right, this is also right. They also lose their Adela. Right? So,
so there's different there's different ways so okay if I could
push back on this subject here
a chef a scholar
wonderful scholar, Imam righteous upright, even people say he's
Wedeman odia Hola. But
he does not do things that are necessary in the Hanafi school.
He trims his full beard.
He does not necessitate the best Mala when he slaughters. And he
eats mussels and clams every day, once a week, because it's cheap in
his country, let's say, you know, the mussels, mussels are cheap
food, right? So he could be in a buy ashore. So he's doing all of
the testing the principal and doing a what do they call it?
stress tests on the principal.
So I'm sure the Hanafi scholars would deem still deem him upright
scholar or upright testimony, right?
Is the call the Hanafi.
That say the call these the Hanafi is 100 feet. I mean, that's let's
say he's, he's taken up by the Ottoman Sultan. And the defense
attorney says, Here's my witness,
to the uprightness of the alleged criminal.
Where are we going to read? Will we would we reject his testimony?
Merely because he followed his method in furore? I mean, the you
have to like the plaintiff defendant, right. So, the other
guy is just going to say what he needs muscles. Yeah. But
to say that, I would say or I would say that
the difference in furore because this is how we understand it, and
let's say in the medical school, and I didn't want to bring other
methods in there so that people could just focus on the physical
FISC that downgrades you has to be a fiscal in which there's no
difference of opinion.
That would seem to make most sense.
Fist Where is a Ferrari issue?
is not going to be physical. Right? Because he's not disobeying
Allah in his belief. Right. He is following the Cydia in his in his
action. So that makes sense, right.
Yeah, like, but the idea is that if the call the it's like, if
there's a certain law which is being implemented, this is why the
this is why they used to be the one of accepted witnesses, like
these people like something where there's nobody else, that all the
testimony is rejected automatically. So idea is that if
to be an acceptable witness, you have to fulfill this criteria,
then it's possible to still say that because there's 100 Of all
the right, but it might be that look, if you want to go to a chef,
I call the these are the rules. So it's not like you're absolutely
like, like something, which might be because then then it kind of
renders like all something which is sinful within the method as
having no meaning. If you turn around and say that you can do all
of these things, there's no consequence, because you can never
be a facet, unless all the methods agree that your facet and his eye
and he's just going to say I'm gonna keep eating crab and
lobster, because all the other men have say it's cool, right? And all
the other 100 views of the town are gonna be like, No, clearly,
this is this is not acceptable, right? Like he's doing something
which is practically, like impermissible, like according to
us. So um, so that's why it's possible for us to say that
sometimes.
Sometimes there can be action which applying like your physical
according to US not fast, according to annual Islam. Okay,
like this is a madhhab specific rule. I see. The reason I asked
that is that someone said here, that person is offensive if they
don't have a certain type of beard.
And of course, we know that the beard ruling is different than
methods. So this could be the lead in and I thought pushback because
I said, a person would not be faster kind of matter of
difference, right?
But especially in a society where you can find you can find many
different views in the same.
Yeah, this is tricky, because people, you can't just jump up and
down. I've told people this before as well. You can't just jump up
and down and say, here's a facet and he's a fascinating and he's a
it's like most the average person is just an average person. That's
why the one MSA and I meet them at habila. Who, so you can't just
throw your madhhab at him and say your phatic according to us and
you're fasting according to them and you're like that's not how the
Dean works. Right? So and he's at liberty to choose, like, in the
sense that his method is whatever his Mufti tells him, the answer to
this particular question is
So although we might, as we just discussed, we might kind of take
issue with certain things, right?
It doesn't necessarily mean we're not we're not living in those
types of times anymore, right? Whether it was like we're under
some, like Solon, and like everybody's like 100 V or
something, and we're all we're all like 100 V societies going to 100
people bar and going to 100 V massages, and so on and so forth.
Malik is similarly in the other meth heads. Like, that's not the
kind of world we live in right now. So people have to recognize
that these are shorter terms. And most people they don't understand.
And it's dangerous, right? It's a design. That's why the 100 free
books, it's mentioned as an insult. If you call somebody a
facet, the body can do dazi.
If he can take you to the body, and the God if it's if it's proven
that he actually called you a fair sale, then the body can take
action against you liable, almost, yeah, like he will, he will punch
you whip you, okay, I'll give you community service or you will
imprison you, especially if it's an island, right? Especially if
it's from like the Ashura food and bait or the Alma and you insult
them, even with something lesser as not saying at first because it
will be a huge crime to them. But, but even the average Muslim can
take you to court for calling ya calling me a facet.
Like, why do you have to believe you and your scholar?
You and your chef? Question? How about this? Back to also? What is
the difference between a meth lab and a FERPA
a school of thought and then a second, what is the difference
between a school of thought and a sect
a school of school of thought amends hub now.
So this comes up like in the in the,
in the famous Hadith, right that the Ummah was split into these
Pharaoh. And there's the field to Nigeria, right and saved sect. So,
so when they talk about *, these are the saved * or the Allison.
Right.
So * now, there's a filler in nakida. Laughing it though, as
fulfilled, is nothing to do with alcohol. It
is all just now about practice. How do you practice Islam? The FDF
of the Ummah is a Rama.
And this is why we know even from the stories of even the famous
story, Ben Cordova, right, so we know the Sahaba differed with
respect to praying Salah to Lhasa as the prophet on his Salatu was
Salam inform them in Venezuela, when the term comes in, like Did
he mean something else? And then when they reported back to the
prophet, and in salatu salam, like half of them prayed and also time
half of them prayed later.
Then he accepted both right, so everything was actually accepted.
And we already know that, that things in the Sharia can be
fixed, right. So we know that for example, the specific amounts that
people will receive will receive as inheritance
after you know, after somebody passes away, is explicitly
mentioned in the Quran, like it's unchanging. So everything of the
Shediac could have been like this. But in reality, the Shadia wanted
that to be feel f and this is why I feel F is actually Maqsood qlf
is sought. hilife is something which is accepted. And this is
it's a messy, and this is where the meth heads show up, that it's
in secondary issues.
It's like
it's like I was traveling to in the McRib. And it was like the
first the first time my son had seen like monkeys.
Where did you go? In infants? Yeah, so. So it was the first time
he's pretty young. So it's like, he was like, how can people pray
differently? Right. And, and I said to him, No, I said, Look,
everybody's praying the same look, we all stand up. We all bow, we
all prostrate, right? So it's just some of the details. It's like,
you know, some people will have their hands by the sides, for
example, right? And then I said, Look, some people sometimes just
about placements, like where are you putting your hands and stuff
everything else is pretty much the same. Right? Everyone say the same
thing. We run say, you know, same floor and being recited. It's like
everything's the same, like so the metal head is just now about the
interpretation. And how you practice Islam was the second now.
You have the saved sect like the Ellison. The beliefs which have
been transmitted and preserved.
And and then you have the the various offshoots of that not
necessarily all students but, but those who went who are who are
still Muslim. That's why Dr. Ramadan booty has this
he has, he has a book is published by Donald flickered a llama
phobia? No, it's It's his book on a
medievalist, not with a heaviness lumea it's not a physical Islamia
maybe will come to me, but there's something like that. But he talks
about the various
like the martyrs, for example, so far this point right there aqidah
is off, but they're not kuffaar inshallah they stole from El Jana.
Right. So there's still from the the most The point being that
these these other groups, even though actually there might be
off, and there'll be consequences to that, but there's two people of
Ghana.
Okay, so would you agree with the saying the little
principle that sects deviate from Qatar etexts men hubs differ on
Vani texts, Qatari is explicit, unequivocal, has one meaning
Vonnie text is that which has multiple meanings. Is that what
what do you think of that statement?
I think that I think that works, because if you say, if there's a
deviation from that, which is not a, it needs to be a quarter in
both its establishment, and its indication, it's the word and it's
the law. If that's the case, then it's subject to each Ma. So if
you're going against the HMR, then this is clearly a sign of
deviation.
So, so again, the principle is that
sects that are disunity in Islam and are rejected in Islam deviate
from explicit texts, the meaning is one. No other interpretation.
Myth hubs.
In our interpretations interpret in explicit texts that can offer
multiple meanings. This is why we as Muslims accepts motherhood, but
we don't accept sects. Okay, all right, now let's get zoom in again
to one of the furore the beard in the Hanafi school for many people
need to know how to grow their beard shaving, trimming, cutting,
lengthening all those muscles. What is the colon fuss on the
Hanafi school in the beard?
Well, depends if you're a man or lady
because men should have beards and women should shave this off.
They mentioned that what if a lady grows a beard? So is it wise to
shave it or is it Mr. hob? Right so
but but certainly if your man you should have you should have a
beard This is from the from the Sunnah of the Prophet Alayhi
Salatu was Salam.
Sometimes people like to box in
everybody into like one, one interpretation or one
understanding. And to be honest, there's different ways of
interpreting something or source in the Hanafi school.
So although you have some later discussions,
which, famously from Lebanon, who man for example, talking about the
idea of a lengthier beard
you'll also have a lot of earlier discussion
that is just generically talking about the beard as being from the,
you know, being included in sections on add up, right, dude,
just the inbox of Adam, in fact, so you don't find this in the
Moodle. It's not like it's not in the visor anyway, it's not like
there's something specific on it, honey, for every man needs to have
a beard. There's no such thing. There's no such thing. It's just
part of edible Islam. Now, Adam doesn't mean just like I mentioned
before, that something can be completely like
that somebody could become a facet by something which is otherwise
permissible, like urinating in the street is not haram. Right? But
the idea of somebody become a facet. So just because I mentioned
Adam here, does it mean that Adam is like, Oh, it's just like a nice
thing rather other can have levels too. Right. So just because we say
Edit, it can be strongly emphasized it could be lightly
emphasized everything has
degrees, there's nuance to everything. So
So sometimes,
you know, so people should do what they are able to do, right should
do what they're able to be, you should certainly have a beard and
intend to follow the Prophet Daniel Salatu was Salam in having
that bid.
And, and sometimes length and the link is going to be dependent upon
one's cultural contexts. So certainly in a context, where the
role is to have a lengthier beard, right?
This is the kind of context where it might be problematic for you,
from a religious perspective to have a shorter beard. And it might
be in other contexts where having a shorter beard is more
acceptable. Right, and this is why you see this across for example
lengthy lengthier beards kind of manifesting in like subcontinent
all kinds of regions and then everything
to the west. You know, they are invariably much shorter, right? So
there's, it's not like one person has a monopoly over the method and
everybody else is like a loser how somebody sometimes people like to
present these types of issues rather there's a fifth 15 And
there's just like we said that these are matters which are one
yet it's not like it's absolutely exclusive like Abu Hanifa said
something rather the Allamah have explained something there's no
source which are there within the method like they are there within
them or they're here and there are ways to interpret and this is why
we also need to do filter properly because partner filters knowing
that filter is not just about double the outcome right that camp
that have no
no rationale, rather's complete opposite of the the Hanafi way.
The Hanafi is always talk about the idea of a rationale. And
that's why even in the Hadith, similar Hadith, which talks about
the bid, they call they talk about why don't we should Akin. So
there's an idea of the the nature of the well, being and rationale
being included, even in the statements of the Prophet
audience. What was salam? Then how did the MaHA understand those
statements? So?
So Gnosis are there? Right, but this is a lengthy, it's a
lengthier kind of discussion, right? So you should consider
yourself consider the local scholarship, consider where you
find yourself, consider what you can manage.
And, and go according in accordance with with that. So
someone can trim their beard
is without sinfulness in the Hanafi school.
Like I said, it's, you know, sometimes these types of things,
they returned to interpretation. So it's like, it might be that you
go to somebody, and he's gonna tell you no, of course, it's of
course, it's infilled. To trim your beard. Right. But it's, but
trim, where, because, for example, in some books, they'll say that
trimming, that allowing it to grow beyond like a fist length, that
that's, that's like, sinful to right, and then keeping it you
know, trimming it less than if it's that simple, too. So it's
like, every day you have to check, right? It's like, otherwise you're
sinful, right? Because either too long or too short. Right? So, so
you can fall into extremes with these types of things as well.
Right? So there has to be a proper fit, there has to be a proper fit
of it. Right? So it's not like,
you know, I make it a little bit shorter, for example, for whatever
reason, right? That somehow or I'm going to end up in the north now.
Like, that's not it's like we talked about earlier, you know,
the average person is not exactly sitting in groups, is not exactly
instead of just like going to his local scholar, right. And he's
just hearing something. And that's not the only answer to the
question. Right? We already know, like, the chef, I use, for
example, have a different answer to the question.
Or the Hanafi is also right. The again, like, just because you're
from the subcontinent, it doesn't mean you have a monopoly over the
method. There's lots of things that we could talk about, we can
have a whole session like like this on, on just like the Indian,
you know, the the subcontinental Hanafy scholarship, versus, like
the, the, the Shami like, you know, Levantine Egyptian Hanafi
scholarship, and there's many differences, differences of, and
it's easy to label the other side as being, you know, sellouts,
right, as it were as not following, you know, not following
the madhhab. Right. And it's like when you pull up, like when, you
know, the other side, for example, is not necessarily following
madhhab then people start scratching their heads, right. So
maybe it's not this issue, but maybe it's other issues, right,
but it's like but people like buzzword, Islam and catch
catchphrases and stuff and
As I like to catch people out, because we like we have a problem
with our hearts. Nobody wants to work on their heart anyway, that's
why people's Islam becomes overheated. Yes. It's all just
about beards. And, you know, beards and Philips like it's never
about your heart. Where's your generosity? Where's your clock?
Right? It's like everybody wants to call everybody else a facet.
Nobody wants to pray to hedge it. Right? Nobody wants to help other
people. Nobody wants to give some thought. Nobody wants to. Nobody
wants that. It's like, who can I go look after? Can you tell me the
rules of it's like, my like, killer. So like, have some Taqwa
have some loss. Right? Where is your weeping before your Lord?
Where's your camera? Where's your good hook towards? How do you
treat your parents? How do you treat your siblings? How do you
treat your family, your friends? Like, where's your dean? Where's,
where's the item in your life? Right? It's not just, you know,
you pick up like a few catchphrases, and you just kind of
jump up and down. And go until, like hijabi bloggers like, what
they shouldn't shouldn't be doing. Like, get a job, get a life, raise
a family, do something big some, do something in your life, like
build a community, right? Show people that you care. It's easy.
It's it's so easy these days, when people have microphones on speaker
microphones, and you can just say whatever you want to the world,
right. And, and so much of it is Jahad. We need to we need to take
the mics away from the kids. I agree that as somebody who
never does something on a small level, shouldn't try to do it at a
big level. Which means that if someone's going to talk a lot and
tell them what to do online, I'd like to see if you ever got the
buy in from five people in your town. Right? Because in the
process of attaining that you'll actually be able to benefit
people, and you'll transform. If you can get the buy in from 510
people in your family or your town, you've proven something.
Then when you come and talk to us online and write books and write
videos, or unpublished videos, you have more credibility, because now
you've actually done the hard work of dealing with human beings. It's
easy to deal with theory.
Now let's get this question here. Firstly, I want to answer somebody
named John de mon. He says I worked or once worked at a Dutch
seafood restaurant, they would take the lobster out and put it
directly in the water and the lobster would start screaming
Well, I stopped working after one week. John D. I don't know if
you're here, but what you heard is not screaming.
Lobsters don't have vocal cords. Lobsters do not have nervous
systems. They therefore do not scream nor do they feel pain. What
you heard was the air coming out of the shells.
Right.
That's what you heard.
You heard the air coming out of the shells. Right? The exoskeleton
from little tiny holes. That's that's really what you heard.
Okay. So in any event, he he later on late, you left the job anyway.
Now next question.
When can Hanafy take an opinion from another school of thought?
Never
heard that.
Why are you taking Why are you taking a position from another
method? What type of Hanafy? Are you?
And what about the three sub schools? Share me ottoman and
Turkish I guess. Ottoman Shermie and South Asian? What are the
difference between them? Yeah, people always like to do this type
of thing as if like you can live here's like 17 things that differ.
It doesn't work like that. Yeah, right. We have a whole tradition.
And many of them had hubs do have these great madrasa traditions,
right these great my dad is even just in the Hanafi school, right
from the earliest period. So for example Hanafi is we have this
whole Iraqi the madrasa of the scholars of Iraq. We have the
scholars of some Moroccans, we have the scholars of Bukhara and
Belk. Right, these great centers great Hanafi learning centers.
These words are not my words, just typing the Sharmila Shami has like
a online
what would you call it? It's a resource resource searchable
encyclopedia, you can find like all the books have many, many
books of Islam on there. So if you church like from the Hanafi,
school type machete belt, you'll get so many entries actually even
books written on this, like all of their choices and all their
positions and so on.
And probably more could be done more more work and then mache from
Hadassah, Millennium shaken out Ark. So these are great scholarly
traditions and, for example,
their choice I'll give you one example right off, you know, so I
want to talk about something modern and I'll talk about like an
ancient
like modern, maybe differences. But just to give you a sense of,
even within the Hanafi school, there are sometimes interpretive
differences, right, in terms of how we do feel, which was the
point that I was trying to make previously as well. It's not just
one understanding, right? This is just surface level, hook them,
like, this is what people this is what you get this way to give to
children. And unfortunately, we're just a bunch of big children,
right, that's what we have. So people think they know the fifth,
all they know is like a basic welcome that we that, you know,
any child like you can teach them in like five seconds, the same
thing.
I'm gonna get a bit technical, just to show that in the Messiah
of the
solder counterfeiter the end of Ramadan charity,
in Amman, Buddhism autosol, you can go, you can go in and you can
check it yourself if you don't believe me, right. But he will
tell you that you have to pay it on behalf of yourself, you also
have to pay it on behalf of your child or your child who's not an
adult. If you check the guns of the client, for example, half of
the DNS Fe another one of the great primers of the Hanafi
school, he will say exactly the same thing right.
Now, if we if we go fast forward now, to double old shear, right,
so, this is a section now on the old hair, or the qurbani or the
slaughter that you do on the days of aid right now either
what is the mempool? Do they say here? He says again, you slaughter
on behalf yourself and also your children. Right?
So that means if you have two kids, right under 10 million for
argument's sake, you slaughter three animals,
one for yourself
to feed two children, right and then your wife she also has the
nisab and everything. So you'd be slaughtering four animals right?
So let's let's just leave your wife out for now and just say
let's you got three animals right? You go to the Ken's what does he
say? He says you slot on behalf yourself. You don't have slots on
behalf of your children.
What's happened is booty wrong.
Booty remember, booty has a direct Senate to Imam Abu Hanifa
as do all of Durga. Right. But have the DNS he also has his only
a couple of people off Makini. Right.
Sevens one person. And then Mr. McKeon any right. So one, there's
only one person between him and Mr. Murphy and Annie, who's the
author of the diet? Right. And then McAleenan he has like the
almost like the centerpiece of the sermon on the scholarship. Right.
So, again, direct Senate to Abu Hanifa. What's happening these are
different interpretations of Imam Abu Hanifa.
In the sense that Imam already is focusing on the key heirs of the
madhhab.
Therefore he has chosen anyway in the meta which corresponds to
that. Yes, because it's more representative of Abu Hanifa 's
position. This is from what they call the no idea, actually, why
yet right, from the lesser known, lesser, you know, known positions,
as it were, they didn't spread as much as what are termed the viral
Yaya virally via the group of books, which are, which contains
like the,
the heart of the Hanafi school. Muhammad even hasn't achieved any,
he wrote them. And they were compiled from the D one, right?
From what they called the Rose num, where they wrote down the
positions after they discussed them with Abu Hanifa. He gathered
them from that and other sources compiled these five books, they
are called the via rewire. So these are like the chief books in
the Hanafi school. So what did one he put in the CANS he based on via
rewire what a man could do we base it on based on the way that
rewire? Who's right, they both right? How they both right. These
are conflicting rules, because there are differing
interpretations of Imam Abu Hanifa. There's not one correct
answer for every single issue. There are different answers. And
there are many, many issues that we could talk about. But
unfortunately, people again fall into this trap, because it's
somehow presented to them like this. The imagine that there's
only one right answer. Another answer I was talking about with
some of the brothers recently was this idea of, for example, chill,
can children lead the taraweeh? Press? Somebody who's not an
adult, right. So again, there's no one correct answer in the Hanafi
school. There's multiple answers. The Mashenka belt, for example,
said yes, you can write there's no harm in a child. And again
I don't want to get so technical, but they have their reasons.
Because
yeah, they have their reasons. And then the mache, half badass
American. They said, No, you cannot write. Again, what's the
correct answer in the Hanafi school? quote unquote, this is not
how you are that this is not how you become. And if you filthy if
this is how you think that oh, like all of these Belson, great
authorities of the madhhab, they didn't know what they were talking
about. And only the guys were caught on you. Right? Whereas
they're thinking the same thing. It's like Java 120. And the shape
of Appalachia seminar candy. Like if you don't think that these
people knew the madhhab of Abu Hanifa, like, like you have a
problem, not them. Right, so so this is the issue. It's like we
have very superficial understandings of the melted off
the fear of the Messiah. And then we like everything to be nice,
nicely boxed and packaged. And like with the bubble wrap on top
of it, so we can now say that look, I'm a I'm a lovely like this
a Muslim, this is my little package. And like in your your
gaffer and your first set, and you're this and you're this, like
it's just me and my little box, right, and it's like,
you know, just respect yourself, respect yourself, respect the
respect the ALMA do the work, right? Study, change your heart.
Right? And and let the other man do the work of right. And don't
think that just because you heard some scholars say something that
you've understand, you understood everything that the entire meth
hub treasure had to say about this one, because sometimes answers are
given. Right, for a particular reason. Right. That's why somebody
I gave a talk just a few days ago, at a mosque and somebody asked
somebody asked me about fetco
fecund fatwa. Right, so, so I explained, that fatwa is a,
a contextual response to a question.
So somebody put their hand up and said, does that mean that if I
mean, you know, you might give two different answers, like if, if
like, from, you know, from person to decide, well, person on site?
Well, I said yes. Right. Which is like surprising for people. How
can you answer is because you didn't understand the field?
Right? Put in the work, you'll see why. Right, the fuqaha have done
this for centuries. I can show you countless examples. Right? But
it's like, but again, this is not convenient, because then I can't
learn it. Yeah, this is why if we do Facebook, the way that people
want us to do Facebook, the AI and chat GPT can can give it to us.
Right? And this what people use it for now too, right? Like even
though they claim like we try there already, I'm sure like
people are asking charge GPT right for for uncertain stuff. So we
have to recognize the time and scholarship, what scholarship
means and the time and effort that people give to the tradition and
respect the work and respect what they have to say and not decide
that me and my friends have decided that you and the entire
traditional wrong.
Let's now go to a fun a quest. Question on salah. Can women pray
in the gym out together?
If they cannot do that? What does they have a few women do if the
gym out of women is praying together?
So congregation in the in the Hanafi school,
again is law focus.
PS now is as we touched upon before
is the normal line of legal reasoning. So
the basis for solid is that it is private worship.
So So what is actually private worship congregation is only
legislated exceptionally.
So this is why it's actually only stipulated for specifically for
men. Right? It's only specifically for men.
That's why although it's it is a valid prayer. If women were to
join together and band together and pray in a congregation that
prayer would be valid, but they would have done something both
wrong and sinful. Because there are many wedgie bat which apply in
congregations and many important sinners, which necessarily would
be emitted by a group of ladies such as the Zen the karma, you
cannot give and then as a lady, right, you cannot give an karma.
Both the event and comma are important soon as of the
congregational prayer. So the unable to do that. Similarly, if
it's allowed prayer
it's prohibited for two reasons.
out loud. So now you're missing another wedge IP like missing by
so your prey unless it necessarily ends up being deficient. Right. So
so this is why the and that's why she attains the full firewall by
prank long, right the lab that the the men get by praying in the
congregation she attains the exact same thing, exact same thurb With
everything as mentioned in the Hadith, right off the property
multiply 25 or 27 times over just for praying alone in the depths of
her home.
Now when it comes to this context of somebody being,
you know, with other sisters, you know, from maybe some event or
some house party or something's happening where people aren't
together, you have to see like who's the majority, right? And
then make a judgement. So if the majority of Hanafy, then maybe you
wouldn't, but let's say that the majority are not like they're
going to pray together. Right, then then, in those types of
circumstances, then if you did it as a one off, right, you just
prayed with them. Right, then it's not necessarily the worst thing in
the world, right? You don't have to go and stand off like a
sheepishly in the corner, right? type of thing, like because
they're all going to pray together. But, but also people
should be mindful of these types of things as well. Like, is it a
sunnah in some of the other methods for women to work together
to pray together in congregation? I don't actually know. Chef as a
lover. No. Is it a sunnah? Is it like praiseworthy? Oh, yeah, they
consider it Gemma. Like you're getting reward, like your mouth.
So it's better if they're together. Yes. That they pray
together. Yes. Okay. So so it might be that somebody follows
them on that particular issue. Right. So given that context, so
this again, this relates now to
the contextual kind of answers that we talked about before as
well. You know, what we, when when there are some school that has a
policy that they follow the Hanafi madhhab. So what they do is when
there's like a girls event, they gather all the girls to the prayer
area, and they say, everyone pray on your own. Right. So in the
sense that it's prayer time, yeah, everyone's praying on their own.
Yeah, nice. And then whoever has an announcement or a talk to give
that indicates your end of the Salah. So that's one way they do
it. Yeah, this is good. Because even even, like, just just to
emphasize the point about even for men that this is an exception.
This is why the Hanafi school there is no congregational no
effing.
It's only that which has been stipulated through is the sun.
Correct? Which is why for example, the Eclipse prayer, right, an
example. That's an example of where you would pray a, an
optional, like what's you know, it's just a sunnah. It's like so
now it's just enough of a prayer in congregation. That's why they
would say
they are led by the Imam of Joomla.
So they can't just come together, right and pray in congregation?
No, no, that's not how it works. That's why they say explicitly, if
the imam who leads them in Joomla doesn't show up, then what
happens? everybody prays alone,
right? You don't simply have a right to bring congregate, it's
not how it works. This there's no snap congregation except where
it's stipulated. And that's why it's only in very, very
exceptional circumstances. So while the water is only prayed in
congregation in the month of Ramadan, the tarawih is an
exception the eclipse is an exception so a lot of joumana a
day no exceptions, the five daily prayers or exceptions that all
other Salawat are prayed alone man and woman
How about this question?
If there is a heretic
Can we eat his meat
the meat of a sheer for sure you slaughter is going to eat his meat
if a sherry leads to luck and I pray behind him if a sherry
recognizes the new moon of Ramadan Can I follow that
excuse me
I guess so, some of these different issues.
So if we take a look at the
so we have to consider the nature of his
of the
Buddha if you're not on the monkey that of the Sunnah. Then they
turned this to be a bit ah, feel inadequate, or you know that
you're either accidentally Sana Elpida, that's it. So
So and then and then they will say that there's two types of die
either something that is not what they call McAfee era doesn't make
you a carrier. Right. Like some of the differences for example of the
Autumn waters Illa de matar not too far. Right? There still what
we need, as we talked about earlier on, but the some of their
positions, right, these positions the other, they are not suddenly
positions. Right.
So if there's a belief, which does not make somebody a Kaffir
then such a person is a Muslim, broadly speaking, right, so
they're within the umbrella office. So if this individual now
says the best manner and slaughters than this meat, meat is
halal.
Right, so that's a mean question. Yeah. Similarly for the salaat.
Right, in the sense that if, if he's a Muslim, right, and then he
prays, and somebody were to follow him in the slot, and it says, the
person only found out like, after the solid, for example, that, you
know, this, this person is like, you know, from elevated hours
something, again, the prayer is valid, right?
And similarly, if there's like rapport, if there's no reason to
doubt, that religiosity, right, so, at least in previous time,
that's why I remember it this way, there's famous discussions about
people who are logged out. But then the, the Hadith would still
be accepted, right? Because they wouldn't, they wouldn't want they
wouldn't like because they were religious. Right. So now, so we'd
have to consider those types of things. Right. So what does it
mean for somebody to be a Buddha, right, with respect to other types
of things, like other types of reports, like the entrance of the
month of Ramadan, or whether the, you know, a particular place is
considered to be healed or not for prayer, and so on and so forth?
Right. So there's someone who wants to do some of these types of
things, but that's the general, the general idea.
Of course, there might be spiritual implications as well,
that's a separate as a separate discussion to our religion is not
only about the outward, right, so we also there has to be like an
inward focused, so you'd saying here
that it would be sinful, but valid.
Salah behind Sherry
For invalid completely?
No, so.
So.
So like I said, it's not, we'd have to determine, like, it's not
just about him being from an AGI.
What's the nature of his record? Is it because some of them they
have Kufri beliefs. So there's, there's no way you can eat their
meat, there's no way you can marry them, there's no way you can pray
behind them that it's completely bought out completely. But the
idea is that if you know somebody, maybe you have a friend and
neighbor, whatever, you know, that, you know, is a simple guy
who prays like me, like, you know, we share the same books, right,
you know, but maybe he comes from that background. So you know, that
there's nothing in his talk, maybe he has a couple of things, but
it's not coffee. Right. So then that prayer is going to be valid,
and that meat is going to be Khaled that he slaughters and so
on, but it's not. This is not like praiseworthy, when people have a
choice, like you don't put, you know, facade. You don't put a
Buddha in, like in these types of, you know, in in places of your
mama, like, you know, in leading congregations and communities and
stuff. So it's important to have people from the Annapurna, right,
so because the Imam is supposed to gather the entire community,
right, so it's supposed to gather everybody.
So, yeah, okay. Question from Hafez Harris. He says, given the
vast nature the method globally, who and where are the greatest
living authorities in the method today, namely meth heads are
alive, they're living traditions,
transmitted down from the first which had Imam down to us. There
every generation has many, many, many masters transmitting this. So
the question is, who are some of the Masters today that people can
study with where are they? What are their institutions websites?
Not the words. Where can I go today to study how to FIFA?
I think I've mentioned something like this before as well. But
sometimes people aren't. People are always looking for the best.
Right? They want the best car. They want the best house. They
want the best boughs, the best money, the best job, right always
want the best teacher
and the armor of the soul of the mansion.
Hodges and Michelle and UserZoom. What Eden Lemuria. Hit enough,
sir,
that the shakes have been deemed incapable of
of really making something of a Marine who refuses to do the work.
So in reality, you don't need the best anybody. You need to find
somebody who cares for you. Right? Somebody who cares, somebody who
knows what he's talking about somebody who cares, and stick with
them. The problem is people like all of this type of talk, right?
And then it's like, it's very good writing, you know, book you put in
your body, because it bring your pocket. And that's it. Now, the
next day, I see I'm gonna ask him exactly the same thing. You have
asked 100 shakes, right? It's like, you know, 20 years from now
you have 100 people who the best shakes up. And it's like, like, 20
years of pasta, do that. What have you done with that knowledge? It
didn't benefit you in the least. It didn't benefit you in the
least. I tell you somebody right now is somebody in southern
Liberia. Well, what are you going to do? Just migrate that tomorrow?
Yeah. Like it's meaningless. Like, consider, like, the institutions
that you have around you. Look around, you look locally, see
what's there. See what's on offer? There's a lot available even
online, right? Consider, see what the options are. Check people out,
ask people ask your teachers. If you don't have teachers, onto your
local in, begin at your local Masjid. Go and ask them, right?
Start somewhere, do something, show that you actually care.
Right? Like, what's the point? Like, I don't even know like, you
know, as it were, like sort of the Fatiha Can you tell me the
greatest body in the world, the greatest Scott, if the world
doesn't care for you, you can't even recite Surah Fatiha. Like
he's got to so many students, like why would he waste his time with
you? Right, is that it doesn't make any sense. Like put in the
work. And then that's why even the man shot on it all the Allahu
Donna animal, when he talks about people traversing the path to
Allah subhanho wa Taala the way of Sulak. And then he says, and I
mentioned this to some some of the brothers well recently as well.
Sometimes people all they need this oil in Saudi, it might be
that right now. All you need is somebody who's a couple of years
ahead of you. And he's gonna start you off on the journey and then
you're done with him, then Allah will send you somebody else. And
he studied five years. Right? So he's five years ahead of you.
Right? So now you've studied like three years, right? And then
you'll find somebody who's 10 years ahead of you as it were,
like a more senior shake, right? Why? Because it's the I that
Minister Angela Shea and public money, okay? But your hidden
money, right? Whether hastiness is something before its proper time
there'll be prevented from it who's to say you'll benefit from
the greater shake right now the greatest Institute, the greatest
university and the greatest certificate, the greatest age as a
CLT says you can have all the addresses in the world. But if you
have no earlier to teach you no capacity to teach you have no
right to teach anybody to say anything. You can keep your mouth
shut about religion. And he says if the complete opposite is true,
you have zero agenda that but you have full Ania you have every
right to speak on religion, co2 emissions, co2 and co2 If you have
now remember this photo? Here's the question No, we are now
talking about the trends and the relationship with other woman
women. Summer says there's a trends in my female only gym
can I work out in front of them or not? Female only gym no cameras,
nothing all walls gym. So women are Muslim women go there. And
they're
being, you know, free to do the exercise they want without any men
around them. Suddenly, you have a trends
showing up?
And what kind of trends trends by identity trans by only the
hormones, trans by hormones and surgery. So we'd have to answer
all three of them.
We're transitioning into this question.
Okay, so um
so, the questions like this, they returned to,
but we can refer to an awesome filk as like the I cam will die.
Yeah.
I can will die. Yeah. I like the way
I'll just say the way that Allah subhanho wa Taala has made things.
For example, the fact that he is connected via certain prayers to
certain times, right, the fact that he is informed us that we
have to, we have to face a certain direction for the prayer, for
example, or that Ramadan begins when we cite the present. Right.
So there are certain things about the world.
That can you pray upside down, right on your head. Right. So
there's not a valid prayer, right? You can't. If you do like
headstand like without your hands and everything. That wouldn't be a
valid prayer. This is not how you spell
Spray. So similarly there are certain I can which pertain to, to
men, and certain I can which pertain to ladies. The
specification of being a man or a lady is a hokum Shaddai
it's a legal ruling, which is established, according to
a couple of things that happen, right?
With respect to with respect to girls.
So actually,
the this is this is something, which is
this white in books effect, they talk about the idea of the hunter
Bushkill. Now, the whole time which the hunter now is like the
intersex person, right, but he's only this person is only Mushkil,
when we cannot determine their gender, gender again, here being
male, female, female is a shocking Shaddai. So, this is why what
they're looking for is, for example, if the person has both
organs stem from which organ or the urinating from, right. And if
it's both, then which one is most, right, because all they're trying
to do, it's, it's extremely rare for them to position somebody in
the middle. Right? So once this is established, then all of the
associated act can now apply, because there's many, many rules,
for example, who are children going to be ascribed to? Right?
Who is going to be responsible for them? Right, financially
responsible for them? Where's the person going to stand in the
mosque? Right? So what type of testimony is going to be
acceptable from such a person? What kind of covering is going to
be acceptable? So all of these things depend on whether somebody
is a man or lady? Right? I'm not negating the fact that, of course,
there might be.
You know, there are many, many, you know, the cases and the like,
and I think even Malaysia, I think that if the of the divide cases
where sometimes people, you know, they might have to undergo changes
and stuff, but by biological reasons, there's, there's various
reasons, right. So those are all the etcetera, I'm just talking
about the, the general reality, you cannot change the fact that
the sun moves in a in a certain way, the fact that you have to
stand on the grounds
or the ground is beneath us, and the sky is above us. Right. And
then the nature of certain again, being applicable, being realized
from that point and continuing until death. Right. So
irrespective of what happens beyond that.
So so that's why
you would still have to treat such a person as if they are not a
lady.
Right? The question was about Jim, right? Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So
it's like that person is is still a man. So you can't just uncover
in front of them.
Right. So the hijab would need to stay on. Right. So that's that
that's important to realize. These are not purse personal, like Sean
Connery to the CHE arm, right? Forget non Muslims, right? We're
just talking about ourselves. Like shut on with respect to me, I
have, it doesn't matter if it's almost a man. Or it's a Muslim
man, a man is a man. Right?
I don't remember the rest of the question. So she's working out
there. Can she continue behaving as behavior with only with women
while she's there? When there's a trans, they're running on a
treadmill or,
you know, doing these types of things that she would never have
done in front of another men.
But which, by the way, this is praiseworthy equality for women to
be openly saying this stuff in a day where there's another
group and the other no world orders that want to mix genders
like this. So now she's like saying, hey, I want to work. Do my
thing only in front of women. And I'm running on treadmills and
doing pull ups and doings crunches and rolling around and jumping up
and down.
Now there's a trans man in the gym. Yeah, like am I leaving here?
Or do I keep doing this? How much of a woman is this person? Does a
shitty I make us know? Treat them like a woman or?
I mean, wouldn't we have to first assess how trans is the person
trans by identity trans by hormones or trans by surgery and
hormones. Right.
But unless
it's possible, like you know,
did but it's not like
this is the whole point of having the discussion about the ACA.
mobilya that this is the way that the world is. So it's not, it
can't be.
It cannot be changed later. So even if there's like surgery, that
doesn't make you the opposite *. That's not how it works. Because
it's a hook. It's a wass as all I must say, sorry, I'm getting a bit
funky now. Yeah, there's a wasp, which is a fair bit in the in the
person, right? So it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's a way it's like
it doesn't depend on like what a person imagines, right? Rather,
it's just the way that it is. Like, this is how the person is
like they already like, that's why when they talk about the shoot and
stuff, they say, the shaft is that you have to be a backup. Like, oh,
the Gora like this, like being a male is like the shot. So So you
can't just like put on a dress, right? And say, I'm not a male
anymore.
That's not how it works. Like it's almost, it's already the document
is already applying to you, whether you like it or not. And
say, Well, I slept through, like Fajr, for example, as close my
eyes. So I didn't see the sun. You know, I didn't see the sun come
up. Right, or I can't see it. Right, therefore Fajr didn't apply
to me. That's not how it works. You have to make up a camera.
Yeah. Right. So that's why.
So that's an easy answer to the question.
It doesn't matter what what he did of the three The answer is we
treat him as a man.
Sounds good, right. Sounds good. Because if if you were not those
hokum while that he is not going to be changed, because you want it
to, yeah, right? Yeah. Then Then spread this as sister.
That's the answer. Find another gym.
Or if this person is there, yeah. And that's like, you know, don't
exercise in front of exactly like, I'm gonna stay in a corner
somewhere, there's no mirrors, you're in the back corner. Like,
you know, there's something that you can kind of keep your eye on,
like, they're not observing you everything. But of course, like
you can't exactly relax, right? Especially if you're, you know,
the kind of clothing that you want to wear and how, you know, like,
people get hot and sweaty and stuff and they might not
necessarily be wearing the kind of clothing that's appropriate in
front of, you know, so those things, but you know, my tequila
Aja Allahumma kraja. You know, whoever has opposed taqwa, Allah
subhanaw taala. Grant them away out. How about this?
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Hanbury buddy s. Shetty and Metro DD got the SRA metric, you're very
close. The Hana fees have always been tied to the Metro DDR EDA.
This question is asking, are the Hanafuda Metro DTS tied for any
release reason related to the Hanafi school? Or is it just so
happened to be geographically and or just a preference? That Hanafy
could be an SSID to such that it's not necessarily tied based on
Hanafy principles? That's the question there
so that's a good question.
Clearly, we know that there was some
some type of it Sal, non Sunni, pneus which was present in Iraq,
right, which is where he found his students and, and after that,
honey for the students were then and then after that, there's
hundreds of years of scholarship, right? And, and we know that the
mache some of them are showing off here. And they are daily kind of
tendencies, although there's some debate over some of them, like
a wackadoodle sauce source, for example. Dr. Matata, but that has
like a nice, Fair article. When he you know, it's like 10 or 20
pages. It's quite, it's quite nice. So it's worth kind of
reading and whereas the melawan not the people who were in some
icon Mahara and those guys were were Sudanese, through and
through, right, so these were and they included people like
Medea Belfie
who is one of them reaches now of the of these books, these other
books now which are transmitted in Arcada. But but the point before I
get into that I just wanted to the reason why I mentioned this was to
show that the clearly the Iraqi honeybees, they didn't necessarily
deem, like every single point of belief, and Aki that to be
absolute to be necessarily like there's unnecessary correlation
between everything to be like 100 years it were. Rather, there's the
film is a thing that we all share. And then it's like the Archaea
thing is, and they had their own kind of discussion. Let's put that
aside for a second is let's go over to the ORAC mela right now to
people, even there you can find the similar candies, and the
horns, there's a
the there's not one after that that's not that's not how it
works. There's like the athlete, the of the, the the traditional
Gohan.
And there's an athlete either of these similar countries, of
course, which which begins to manifest
at the handset or initiate the handoff who am
email and who they're meant to add.
Who's a great Hanafi man is a great honey VMM is a massive 20
Volume dev seed, which is published, it was published by the
OIC off in Turkey, beautiful addition. And that was actually
just dictated he was given a deficit to like the masses. So
it's like, you know, it's and then it was recorded.
But, but they didn't, there wasn't this sense of this one up either.
Right. So it's almost like it becomes like the film, it's
different interpretations now of and that's why, for example, is a
cannot is is does the alone, right, just believe in the heart
alone? Is that sufficient for Eman? Or do you have to also
explicitly confess an profess faith, right? And to say the
shahada right to see the Shahada? So this is a debate like serious
one position would say that No, does stick alone is fine. And, and
another position? Was it? No, it took like, you actually have to
say, like the shahada to become Muslim. If you don't, you're
Gafford. And you're gonna go to the knot. Right? So where they're
getting these things from the, you know, there are five key texts
now. And some people like to, you know,
question the need, of,
you know, some of these types of work, but to be honest, like,
these are the hub of our honey for some time directly, when we'll
take our Barclays, the direct student of Abu Hanifa, he takes
his taking the book, back to to Dubai. Right. So he's taking,
like, he's actually the speaker. So you have like the vehicle
Akbar, on the vehicle upside and the we'll see, like, there's the
salary level of the middle button.
So we have these books. So we have this living tradition. But it's
still a question of interpretation, right? That's why
sometimes member 3d is taking the rewire for example, from such and
such book. Right. And then the scholars of Mahara, famously,
there's many differences. That's why you have for example,
keywords. That's why you have these broad traditions, actually,
you have like the modern tradition, which is like,
epitomized in the early work that is, so add an album, which they
said was actually a group of the it's actually everybody like, the
Wuhan has actually agreed on our client, somebody compiled it.
Right. So it's almost like a group effort. And then you had the likes
of metal Ed, doing the work, all in roughly the same time period.
And also in Egypt, remember how, right and and everybody is
ascribing themselves to Hanifa. And they are all 90% of it was all
shared. Right. So it's just like the rest of the talk about
when we talk about the
the filter and the different mattresses, different,
you know, traditions within our Kedah, certainly in that early
period, there's there's certainly a bit of tension, right between
some of these, some of these groups.
Certainly after that, where as soon as you get into like six,
when there's like the Iraqi month have kind of dies out and, and,
and the tension is kind of lifted something Something must have
happened. And then you get to 678 centuries, like everybody is meant
to be there at that point. Right. So now mentally it is only
explicating the al Qaeda of Abu Hanifa it's not it's not that he
is doing something new just like remember how he says right at the
opening in the opening statement of his creed that is exactly the
of the Imams of And isn't that what Hanifa will yourself Muhammad
right
So that's important because just as an aside leads to this whole
idea of there being this whole entire Hanafy tradition. And
whenever you have transmission in both RP, the also, also also in
SoloQ. There's some discussion about that, too. Anyway, that's
it. So it is connected in so so I'm really focusing on codifying
Abu Hanifa zakat. Okay. Yeah, so he's tracing all of his SunnyD
back to Abu Hanifa. Right. So he is speaking
as like the Dutch German, of like, dark either of what we've received
from Abu Abu Hanifa. Right. So so that's why so that's in the later
periods. Yeah, it's all pretty much one. Like you are Hanafi
you're in your Hanafi anarchy that that's why I think it's, I don't
know, ma'am says, Have you also learn off Alderaan? That was your
Hanafi through and through when they say that they mean maturity?
Yeah. Okay. Very good to then know that. A couple more questions.
Well, it's four o'clock. We have 45 minutes to drama. And Hanif
Yasser, I think he's just came in right. Just
spend some time okay.
What time do you have, you know, like,
we have 449 minutes. So we have 40 minutes so and I guess also came
in while
we probably have like, till about 430, right? Yes. Oh, okay. We are
playing the role.
of us don't pray when is the end of Astra time and Hanafi school?
That's the question is also the ends of course, when the sun goes
down. Yeah. But we have a concept of the disliked time, the mcru
time for prayer. And so it's sinful to delay your acid until
the time at which the sun is setting in the process of setting
so and sometimes it depends on like, you know, geographical
location, the time Ian's sinful to delay but you would still pray you
will you must pray. Okay. But it'd be sinful to delay Yasser until
this time. Okay. So that's why sometimes like the sometimes they
refer to it as like the last 15 minutes to 30 minutes before my
clip. So subtract. Now you know what Funny thing is, we had a
brother in college, he misunderstood this rule. And he
was telling us swearing up and down that 100 PV FIP is haram to
pray in the last few minutes of OSERS. So he actually sat out us
and he prayed. Also, after mother came in, then he prayed with us.
So it confused everyone. That's somebody who misunderstood the
ruling. Okay, now let's ask this question.
This question
regarding the hijra, when is it obligation
to make the Hijra
to make the Hijra make Adria, Maga. Two out of living amongst
non Muslims and living with Muslims. So who told you you could
live amongst non Muslims to begin with?
Right?
So it's like, I mean, the first discussion is not to kind of
accept the fact that you're living amongst non Muslims. It's to, it's
to say, what's the justification for being here to begin with?
Yeah, right. So it's not about making Hitchens making he makes it
seem like I've done it, I'm doing this pious think no, it's like,
like, your default. Like, it's almost like I was like, I'm doing
something pious. Mashallah, I'm gonna do another pious thing. It's
like now, according to the standards of Boko Haram in the
premises of yeah, this these premises are off now. I don't want
I mean, this is it's a very difficult, you know, conversation,
of course, I don't think we can answer it in just minutes. But,
but but if we just talked about the general idea, like of the, of
some of the, some of the things that the football have mentioned,
about people going, for example, into non Muslim lands, so I think
we can use that as like an introductory kind of thing. So,
you know, so one of the things that the economist said, is that
this is why there's this general impermissibility of marrying from
the annual Kitab in non Muslim lands. Right? So the 100 views are
very explicit about this. Why because that, that also extends or
that openness is there, when you're in Muslim lands, because
your children are protected, because they are already Muslim
lands outside the Muslim lands, your you know, you it's very
possible that you might end up losing your children. Right, and
that's why it's actually impermissible to marry right. Now.
Secondly, they say, they said that if you end up in those countries
as you what are the rules was actually some of them said that
you have a
You lose your Motorola, it's more to even come like you're it's
almost like fist to even come to normal. Someone's just like in and
of itself. Why? Because no sane person. Sorry, sir, no sane person
would put their dean at risk, because that's what they said, if
you go too long some, it's like your entire religions at risk.
Yeah.
So now,
so then they remarked about your progeny and your children, they
said, your children will leave the faith. Not only that, but they
said,
don't go right to non Muslim lands, because your children will
acquire the lock of the Kafala.
All of the discussions that we're having now all of the cultural
discussions like over here in the US and in England, everything the
children that are being affected by all of the mindsets, secularism
and everything and all of the discussions that are happening,
these, these are all o'clock. That's why nobody can nobody can
be Muslim. Nobody can think like a Muslim. Because everybody is so
affected by this worldview. Now, of course, they affect the Muslim
world too. But there's a protection that people don't
appreciate. There's a spiritual protection in Muslim lands,
despite everything else. Right, despite everything else, there's
there's a protection, you had the event they are masajid, there's a
general sense a sense of Islamic cultural identity and upholding
religion, the upholding of religious values, which is
completely lost in societies like this. So they mentioned a lot of
these types of things. Now, if you have a legitimate excuse, they
allow you to go to normal salons, such as one such as Fairtrade,
right, so somebody goes for trade, somebody goes for Dawa, right?
Somebody goes for a legitimate reason, like on diplomatic mission
or something,
you know, there's a legitimate reason to kind of go,
this is this is fine. But to kind of, for people to kind of, migrate
and to live, like, generation, generation after generation, then
the exact thing, the exact reason, and the tally net, which the
fuqaha gave, they said your children can become kofod
Our children becoming fat, right? You're seeing it on your streets
we're seeing in our streets in England, too. Right? So you're
They said your children going to pick up the o'clock of the Cafaro?
What's happening? Nevermind the children, right? It's like the
it's like the parents. And it's like, every bit some promo, it's
like, this is not a question of like children anymore, because
those children are now the adults who have children. So what's
happened second generation third generation, we're losing our
children. Right? So now, of course, that's why I said, it's a
tricky conversation, because many of us didn't necessarily make the
decision to kind of emigrate from Muslim. Like, you are already like
our product, like second generation, third generation,
fourth generation yourself. Right? So it's like, your product of your
circumstances now. So and it's not, we have to kind of deal with
the reality in which we find ourselves. So So of course, you
know, may Allah forgive us, right? But we have to, we have to
recognize that these are not ideal circumstances. Right? It's not
ideal circumstances.
But we also now have they also large communities, right, they are
communities, people of knowledge, people of the curve.
They, they they're also responsibilities, which they have,
right this like, it's like, you know, the whole of Islam, you
know, as they would say, it's like your, you know, standing at the
unicycle the enemies can enter into Islam. It's like just holding
the fort. And as it were, so like, just listen, why running from the
battlefield is from the Gebiet. Right now, I'm not saying that
leaving is, is like, of course, like people have to make their own
reasonable judgments. It's it's, it's not there's no
straightforward answer. It's not like somebody is going to,
you know, people can go to their natural homeland, but it's most
people I think you've talked to them, Unless they're very, very,
very, very culturally
kind of domesticated in their ancestral homeland. They feel
very, very out of place, right? So unable to kind of
live over there, and then sometimes sort of remark this to
people as well.
That sometimes, you know, somebody might go somewhere. It's like, you
want to go and your wife wants to go and you decide it's a good,
good place to raise your kids and everything. But it's like your
kids didn't choose to go. So what are they dreaming about? The dream
about all the American friends
All right, so so as soon as they're able to, they want to go
to the they want to go to college where in America, and then they
will live in America because you live there. He grew up, then you
had all the fun, right? So all it does, it just creates this thing.
So, so there has to be some type of wholeness.
Like there has to be something like it's a conversation. But I
don't think there's like a simple answer of Oh, yeah, it's worship,
like,
actually, let's go, let's go meet new let's just go as like, yeah,
realize we go with this person, and we're all going, it doesn't
work like that life doesn't work like that life isn't so
straightforward. Like, there's a lot of nuances complement, you
know, complexities to questions like this. And again, it goes back
to everything we've been discussing today. There's nuance
to everything, like filth is about nuance, like, we have to deal with
the world, we have to deal with our families and friends and our
children, we have to do the best that we can. And we also have to
recognize that sometimes we're a product of the societies in which
we find ourselves. But it's not simply to have a lackadaisical
attitude to life, but to be on guard now. Right. So you have to
do much more than that people are doing in eastern lands. So let's
get off our backsides and actually do the work. Right? What even is
the definition of Muslim country?
Doctor is that what would be the definition? Does it have to be
ruled by Muslim majority Muslim? What would be the actual
definition?
Again, this relates to what we talked about before, which is that
what does it mean for somebody to be like a man or woman, it's just
a wasp. So it's some it's a hokum shot, right. So when when the land
is conquered by the Muslim armies,
then this, this land is now considered to be as Cairo, you
know, like Egypt is conquered.
And it becomes Islam. Right. So now, Abu Hanifa said that it will
remain as Donald Islam
until three conditions, right, unless three conditions are met,
or three conditions are met, then it will cease to be Donald ism.
And that's why the only place that this is perhaps ever been
applicable to is under Lucia. Right? Where it ceased being that
of Islam. Because one of the important condition because, as
you know, because well, honey, first is the account of Islam, for
example, are no longer *. It's not like public manifestation
of Islam. Also, there's no longer mn right from the Muslims. Right?
You now have a man like, like John and Jack will now give you a man
and say you're safe to practice, you think it's no longer because
of King Khalid, right as it worked, like who was like did and
thirdly, there's no surrounding borders, right of Donald Islam,
like connected borders. So if that's so this is why even if you
have people who are not that religious and are practicing and
so on, or, or there's certain restriction on religious practice,
and so on, as long as there's still connection to the Islam,
then Abu Hanifa will still maintain that this is not Islam,
because it was in the land.
Three conditions being the the Horn of Africa, and the second one
is the art of the man, because a man a man or a woman may from the
Muslim in the third one. And the third is the moda hammer, by the
way a man is security. Yeah. Which is the secure security, which is
the borders, the borders. Yeah, that you're connected. Because if
you're connected to Donald Islam, the idea is that you can always be
added. So even if the if so you're surrounded with other Muslims.
Exactly. Right. So the idea is that if something happens here,
the other must like the any one of them, or all three of them have to
be observed.
All three of them have to be observed. Yeah, in the sense that
if there's no borders, the I kind of like that's why I gave like
Andalusi as like an example. Yeah, that's that is now no longer
considered to be that of Islam. Yeah. Right. But
okay, that's why it's like your question was like, Muslim Muslim
country, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's why you can say Muslim
country is like the that's what? Islam according to Abu Hanifa
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The last question for the day to shift to brace is our Qadiani is
considered heretics or
Are apostates catheters Qadiani is somebody who believes in midazolam
Qadiani as a prophet
is this even a question?
That we taking questions from all the audience at their level? So
the Sheikh is answering he basically gave you the answer
there you go. Are you how are you even asking this question shifter
sake?
So, that gives you that a bit basically gives you their answer
your answer. How could you even think, to ask a question about
someone who holds another man as a prophet? That this would be
somewhat acceptable and we know there's a hadith of the prophets
say Kunal fie Almighty, not meant Almighty feet Almighty, there will
be people claiming to be in the ummah of Islam. They believe in a
prophet, they claimed prophecy after me, Allah will learn about
your body, but there is no messenger after me Sahih Muslim.
So we say if Euclidean is had not done this, we were slums would
read the Hadith and say oh messenger of Allah. You said
there's going to be people claiming prophecy in Islam. Where
are they? So here they are, even the
riddle wars. Will Salem Al Khattab was not saying he was a prophet in
Islam.
As a Muslim, he was saying he's got a whole nother religion. So
there goes your answer, folks, and
we're finished for today with a long q&a session.
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