Shadee Elmasry – Hadith Methodology & Shaykh Mahdi Lock in Morocco NBF 342
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Yeah. All right, here we go. Today we're going to talk about
a claim that was made that I had as soon as Sherry's Hana fees are
always attacked with this. They reject a hadith ahead. And there
are certain things that people say all the time that that is not
possible to be true. Such as the saying, if the hadith is sound,
then it's my method. And they say all the Imam said it. If that's
the case, then why do we have methods done? Right? We'd all be
chef. Hey, yeah. As you're gonna see why I'm saying that no,
everyone will be chef at that point, pretty much. So today we're
going to talk about a type of sound Hadith. Keep in mind, we're
talking about sound Hadith here.
We're not talking about
weak Hadith fabricated Hadith. When we say Hadith today, we're
only talking about sound Hadith. Are we on? Alright, and the slide
is there. Good. Very good. So you can see All right, first slide,
we talk about three types of transmission. The Moto
transmission is that which reaches us through such a large number,
that based on self, it's like built in self evidently, you know
that this can't be a line, it must be true.
They say what is the proof of the Matoba?
Hadith? What is the proof that that mass transit and by the way,
this is outside of Hadees to mass transmission
yields absolute certainty that this is a fact.
And we don't have a specific number. So in Morocco is so old,
he, the author does an awesome book, he discusses this, and he
says a very wise thing. And he says that, you know, for sure that
bread and water fills your can fill you up, right? Food and water
in general can fill you up, quench your thirst and satisfy your
hunger.
But how many bytes?
We don't really know. Nobody can really tell. And for you, and
maybe you more than me, depending on the situation. So we don't know
exactly, there's no set number. As of as he puts it, there's no set
number on how many people are necessary
in a transmission is just so much that at that point, just based on
common sense, you know that this cannot be a lie.
Keep in mind however, that this must be an observed phenomenon
not a rational conclusion. Okay. So scientifically, there are
observed phenomenon and there are the rational conclusions based on
those observed phenomenon. And rational conclusions can be mass
transmitted in error. So, the role of maths transmissions in them is
that the conclusion exists, right? That doesn't mean the conclusion
is correct. So all over science in the history of all
All of history science you study in high school. It's that, you
know, the sun revolves around the Earth, how many how many millennia
people held that position? That's a rational conclusion based on
observation. Right? What you observe? Is the sun rising, like
the sun moving like that. That's what you observe. So that we all
know, there's no discussion on that. Now to conclude that yours
still, and it's the sun moving, that's a jump, that's a leap. So
that can be wrong. Right? There can be mass transmission.
That's incorrect regarding rational conclusions and beliefs.
But mass transmission regarding observable things.
Yields facts, absolute facts. Okay. So we're not a people who
only merely rely on either reason, or experimentation.
demonstration, no, we can have a, we potentially we do accept that,
that there is a concept of transmitted fact. So that's number
one.
I'm gonna go to the bottom one first. Now, the opposite of that
is the hat.
Okay. It's the opposite of the HUD. And it's transmitted by a
handful of people that doesn't reach to that point, any kind of
transmission that does not yield certainty. We call that a HUD. So
it's, in a sense, it's a misnomer, because we're not limiting it to
one person who has it here. His quote here says that that which
has not reached the level of mass transmission that yields which
yield certainty, even if it was transmitted by many people from
five or six original transmitters.
So he's even saying that five or six transmitted doesn't yield mass
transmission. Okay.
Examples of mass transmission are obvious for
in the news. There's some news that you get a report, you doubt
it, no matter who says it.
But then you get a report. And it's it literally the same report.
Is there eyewitnesses in a journalist in every journalist is
in front of the fire, let's say for example, you don't doubt that
there's a fire, right? But if one journalist came down and said,
there's a massive fire in it, Arctic, I don't have any pictures,
but I saw it myself. What does that yield to us? It doesn't yield
anything, even if it was Ted Koppel himself. Right. Who was
Peter Jennings himself? These are like famous, famously objective
journalists, right. Ted Koppel, Peter Jennings back in the old
days. Good.
It doesn't yield absolute certainty. What's an example in
the Quran?
example in the Quran, where somebody
does not reject nor accepts an airhead report.
There is an example in the Quran, where an airhead report is
received. And it is not accepted nor is it rejected rather.
What's said about it is that we have to find Cara in extra
evidences.
Prophet saw a man and the Hood Hood. In this instance, Allah is
telling us about the Hood Hood, which is the hoopoe bird. Get the
hoopoe at this point, yes, it's an animal but because Allah is
transmitting this to us, leave aside the concept that that it's
merely
a bird. Okay, it's essentially a rational and trustworthy being in
this verse. The Hood Hood says Geochem in Sabah, and beneva and
europeen. I've come to you with news from the queen of sheep from
the kingdom of Sheba, which is in Yemen. They were they were East
Africans that had colonized Yemen.
And they had a queen with certain news, absolute certain news. So
here, he's the witness. So it's certain for him for the for the
hood hood for the pitch for the bird. This is absolute knowledge.
Okay. What is sort of man says, Ah, that's a number. As a doctor,
I'm contaminant gathering Levine. He says we're going to check,
right? We're going to check so the head report is met with what?
Neither acceptance nor rejection, but we will check if there is what
the evidence around it is. Okay, so that's the an example of the
HUD report in the Quran. Alright.
I'm going to we're going to come to the ruling and the acceptance
of it in a second. The next one is in the middle. And this is
different upon
what happens to Haley. He accepts it and holds it to be an
acceptable category. And that's the category that a hadith begins
with the Companions as a head, but in the second and third gender
question that was so cautious about Hadith pious and they were
very close to the era of the companions. In that generation it
became whatsoever.
So he said we can't just ignore this category we have to have this
middle category called Al Masud, when Westerfield
Masuda animals to feed when, with the tab ain
it became widespread amongst the tebing
not way later where it's easy for lies to be misconstrued. Like,
like amongst us, we always have a hadith that are that are weak or
fabricated, but they spread amongst people through
misunderstandings, right, is a complete misunderstanding. For
example, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, Seek
knowledge even unto China. That was actually the comment of the
transmitter. He just made a comment. After narrating a hadith,
on seeking knowledge is an obligation upon every Muslim.
The transmit of the Hadith then said to the students from himself,
seek knowledge even on to China.
And then a narrative a trend, a student wrote that as if it's the
Hadith, and it became transmitted as if that hadith, and now you see
people saying it all the time. If that was the case, it would be
similar to go to China, seek Hadeeth. Right? It will be
certainly to do that. But no, we never see another automat do that.
There's there are practices that spreads so far and wide, where you
you barely can find any evidence for it even in the books of FIP.
Like, moving to pray, the sooner that you pray the font, and then
everyone moves.
Show me.
I've asked so many people for any evidence and none of the methods
they just say in general, it's good to separate between photos
and Sunnah. That's it, but there is no concept of let's all shift,
sometimes people look at you and they and you're like what?
And he's waiting for you to move. Right?
Not saying it's wrong, but it's one of those things that spread
later on. So the mass shooter has the condition that it became mass
transmitted in the first generation.
After the convenience, the tab ain, after the commit is one
example. In the metal metal bin yet actions are by intentions.
Although the Prophet said it on the member, he said it in in front
of everybody, it was only transmitted by honorable khatam.
Or that transmission is the only one that reached us should say.
All right, let's go to the rulings on this. We're keeping this very
simple.
All our A had Hadith a source of optie EDA and law for us, and the
answer is yes. There's no doubt about that. Ahead. Hadith are a
source of Akita and law, but some have provided conditions.
What are some of these conditions?
The nerf have the most conditions. Number one, that it doesn't
contradict the action of the narrator. Because if a narrator
narrates something, but he does something else, then maybe what
he's not telling you are the conditions.
Maybe he's not telling you it was an exception. Maybe he's not
telling you that it was abrogated. So if the narrator and where am i
I'm getting this from what happens to Haiti. Syrian scholar was very,
he was like the shift, save them a lot of Bulte of writing 62 books,
he has books, but he's more he's even famous for his lectures to
write but check was it it was an amazing writer. Secondly,
in the Hanafi school, and this is even an F they have a discussion
on it is that it doesn't oppose BS that I had and the PS right that
the HUD does not oppose. Yes. Okay. And this is men sube to Abu
Hanifa.
But other have said no, it's not from Abu Hanifa was about to enter
this better. The Kadima remember behind you for Qatar? What an Al
Imam Mecca Naoto do Hadith and Nabhi. Let's have periodically so
you have to keep in mind some have said this, but should well because
it is telling us here that it is narrated that this is not the
case. Alma you can double check for us. Okay, Omar is a Hanafi
student here. Okay, what's the third condition and lacuna Hadith
Anwar had mumma Tom will be at Bella. It had just done as La he
went to shot when he shot who learned Allahu Soran fee I had the
Nursey so it should not be a matter that is a very public
matter. Because if that was the case, everyone needs this hadith.
So why is it mess? Why is it Why is it only one person transmitting
this? It says it's a matter that affects everyone's life. So it
should be mass transmitted. Okay,
If you had an array who will Matsuyama the Intel enough Wolmar
we can
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right. All right.
While the short 20 candidates more them cooter will also lumps and
Sybil email, maybe I never went to Manoppello on a bill has an L
Kurki. Minimum of a demon
gut. And there's just some discussion on that. So those are
the three conditions for the acceptance of the Ahad Hadith with
Abba Hanifa. Should I repeat them? Let me let's take out the second
one that's different upon that, let's just keep it up to in the
Hanafi school had hadith is accepted.
According to this by webisode, Heidi on two conditions, the first
condition it doesn't contradict the action of the narrator. The
second condition, it doesn't regard a subject matter that is
affects the entire public something that the entire public
our entire society is it deals with every day, because if that
was the case, and it was law, we know it from everybody. Right? Now
this these two conditions are very, very, very similar. You see
the minds I think, like to the medical opinion, what's the
medical opinion on this 100 hadith is fully accepted on one condition
that it does not contradict Ahmed Medina is the same idea. Right?
Very similar idea. Because if all the scholars of Medina and these
are the kids and grandkids of the Sahaba are ruling with one thing
doing one thing, then that's what the Sunnah is that's moto letter
Okay, so the one condition two conditions for the enough one
conditions for the show for the medic is how about the chef a
lemmya started a chef here to Lama Libya Hubbard and why the Illa
Sahaja Senate call it no conditions yes it is law
Absolutely. As long as it's So here
all right. Woman hola hola Mia mellow Bill Hadith and morsel Illa
either to our philosophy here at the truth so it's about Hadith and
morsel so they don't consider the motor sell more is Morrison.
Morrison means a second generation Muslim quotes the Prophet he
doesn't cite as a hobby. That's a whole nother discussion set that
aside. So what are the chef a you have on the sound? I had had zero
conditions. So we went from two to one to zero
okay what about the Hannah Bella
and also Lima Muhammad and Nola you had the model had etc. So I
can appear as an Enviro who, for you cut them covered Allahu Allah
PRC. We'll call this a hobby of a Roma minute, a hadith same as
shuffling. So we went that had hadith is accepted.
In all form of hubs with conditions he's had to two
conditions, which was it doesn't contract, the narrator does not
act differently from what he narrated, and that it's not from
the public matters. Because if it was a public matter, we'd have so
many narrations from it, it would be mass transmission number next
Maliki method one condition we act upon it on one condition doesn't
contradict the action of the scholars of Medina is pretty much
very similar to whatever Hanifa said but district talking about
Medina, the scholars of Medina have what the scholars of today
know the scholars of last century know the scholars of the first two
generations
the Taliban and the Tibet 72 After the Sahaba share phase, and
somebody's act upon it, fully beautiful summary here from
shikcha zohydro. Okay, now let's talk about it.
Regarding can it provide exceptions to mass transmitted
reports? And we just basically answered that
the share phase and somebody's accepted as law Absolutely. And it
can offer exceptions to the Quran. However, the medic isn't Hunter
fees will not give an exception to the Quran will not. And if it's if
I'm an island, Medina is a filter the Quran is definitely a filter,
and Maddix food laws are all based on this principle. The food laws
of the medical school are based on this principle.
All right. Now, there's a spelling error here is tech theater made
now we go to the UK data element of things is tech feed made on one
who rejects and 100 report
the answer is no according to the US IDs in the metro cities, rather
such a rejection may entail to dia that this person is an innovator
you are now a layer between
Muslim and a Kapha is the layer of the heretic, the innovator and
here you start to see that the mush hood category is very
important. Because they all the authors say may entail it may
entail So then where is that division? That division? You know,
they it's prom shorts mentioned in some of the books and they give
examples. Alright, so if you
report comes on a matter of belief no
matter of belief
that the that is ahead and a person rejects it,
then dependent then it may result in them being an innovator. Not a
Kaffir. Okay.
Let's go now to a little diagram. Next slide don't
get look as little diagram. At the top is mass transmission at the
bottom is solitary transmission. On the right now we have we're
bringing we're introducing another section here, factor here. The
nature of the speech
is the are the words definitive or in definitive? Guide? I should
actually put it I should have flipped it. To be honest with you.
I should have put money on the left a potty on the right. But my
mind was thinking like an Arabic right to left, right. So on the
right you have the in definitive speech. There is in Islam, the
concept of in definitive language, right.
It's not definitive. I ate bread today. What of that is definitive
that I ate something of the genus of bread, but what kind of bread
pita bread, French bread,
Afghani bread? So that's what we call the Vani. Adela. It is
speculative in its meaning he could yet I mean, Alamanni. It
could have different meanings, many different meanings. We call
that money, a dilemma. And then on the other side, you have cuts a
delta.
Absolutely, I ate French bread to it now that there is no discussion
on what kind of bread I ate. Right? Or that when I said I ate
bread, there's no discussion that I ate bread as opposed to
something else. I only ate bread. That means I didn't eat apples,
for sure. Guaranteed, but we don't know what kind of bread right? So
that is the idea of being definitive in implication.
All right, so now we're going to have
transmissions from the Quran and from the Hadith that fit in all
four. Of course, the Quran let me just make a point. The Quran and
the motogadget Hadith will only be above the line above the x axis,
right? Because the Quran is mass transmitted every letter of it,
every order of the suttas everything is mass transmitted.
The motto was that hadith obviously by the meaning is mass
transmitted. But there could be from the Quran and Hadith that
which is vanilla.
So what's guaranteed is the Quran and the mass transmitted will be
above the x axis, all Matoba but it could be on the right or the
left of the axis. All right, let's go to the first example.
Click give us a click on
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all right.
An example of that which is whatsoever and definitive,
absolutely definitive and whatsoever. There's no discussion
on this at all. established this Allah pay does occur. Fasting has
been made obligatory. Right? There's absolutely no discussion
on these things. Right? It's got to eat that there is something
called Salah that's obligatory upon us. It's called say that
there's something called Zika that's obligatory Scottrade that
there's something called fasting that is obligatory for us.
Alright, let's take a look an example of that which is
in mass transmission, it's its parts I in the boot. It's
absolutely certain that that this is transmitted.
But the meaning can have different the wording can have different
meanings. Yeah, dominant Amani alright next
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Okay. Have no fear of it. Bring it on. It's going to subside. We've
seen this before. I'm telling you. We've seen this before. We've all
seen it before. Okay.
All right. Now let's go to the next thing.
These what I'm about to tell you here are Matoba in their
transmissions from the Quran.
And there could be more towards that hadith, but the meaning of it
can have different meanings. It can have different can have
implications. So number one
the divorce woman awaits three clue
what Aloka to Yatra bus Nubian puts in Fela to Kuru, what is the
Quran? Is it the period of purity? Or is it the period of
menstruation? Three, three purities or three months
situations? It's enough. They different upon that. One so
beautiful. Oh cecum Bureau cecum I couldn't even translate it. So I
write I wrote wipe be your heads, right? Why would your heads
alright? How much? Firstly, what if I have hair there?
Right, Ross? He said, Allah says the head. He didn't say the hair.
So do what am I allowed to go over the hair? Right? That's in
Morocco. So that's an example of images. Actually. It's one of the
examples of images in the Quran. Is that where you can't you don't
go by the the meaning you have to go by another meaning. Right? And
you also we have the example the Prophet in that. So.
So I hope it was good. But the whole head
part of the head chef as a three hairs, right? Oh had enough say
one quarter of that. 1/4 of that. So a robo Hawkman called Amazing.
So they can say for example. So if I withhold if I give you a quarter
of your salary, I'm good.
If a boss gives someone quote another salad, I'm just kidding.
But if so a person could technically make wudu if his
hair's done nicely, just on the back, wipe just the back, right?
Because that's a quarter of that.
Not just the back and the sides.
But what's the front quarter? So there's 50 left on what the head
is? How much of that what does that mean? Well, I'm so beat.
So the verse is whatsoever, there's no discussion, it's a
verse of Quran but the meaning yet MLL man he had has a can have
different meanings. So that's why we have schools of thought
Gunilla Haqqani carnitine stand for Allah with OneNote. Is that
mean? Does that mean sincere prayer? Or does it mean sacred
notes recycled? Do I not
know?
What are the you know whom I love? We mostly don't those who avoid
from from level they are in avoidance what is level?
At what point is talking about the NBA Playoffs level? Right? Two
sentences, two minutes, five minutes 10 minutes? At what point
is talking about these things level? Right?
And is it our is level include instrumentation? like at what
point is it though? Here's another one.
Who whoever is traveling makes up the days
those who are traveling makeup days and fasting. Well, what's
traveling? How many miles is traveling how far of a distance is
traveling and we have that good if across all the schools and you
have from 36 miles to 72 miles, English miles. So there's a lot of
stuff on that but the texts, the transmission is guaranteed. Right?
We know that this is a guaranteed transmission but there's
discussion on the meaning of it. Okay? Why did Allah put the why
not just give everything clear for wisdom that Allah knows
the wisdom of having different opinions on matters. Alright,
let's go to the third one over.
Now we have a Hadith from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
salam.
We have Hadith from the Prophet peace be upon him that are not
whatsoever. They're below the x axis, they are not mass
transmitted.
And they're on top of that.
Speculative in their meaning.
Meaning get their money can have different meanings. Alright,
they're indef in definitive
in their implication, okay.
Albay I don't even care, madam, it's of a rock.
The buyer and the seller are at choice. As long as they have not
separated that means for example, I will sell you this item for 10
bucks. Alright, fine. Take it for 10 bucks. He puts 10 bucks on the
table. I put it in my pocket. He takes the pencil. He puts it in
his pocket. And we're still chillin. All right, let's have
some tea. In the middle of the tea. He says hey, you know what? I
changed my mind. Give me the 10 bucks back and give me my take the
pen.
So why is it that medic did not rule by this? He says while he
transmits it, and he it's even in his. He transmits it himself and
he used to teach it to show people that he knows it. But he is ruling
is not that. That's not the ruling. There is not there is a no
return policy as a default and it's not when you buy and sell.
The default is no return policy.
Unless there is now it's accustom amongst people or it's it's in the
receipt that you can return it for 50 days or something like that.
Right? It's but the default is that there's no return policy. So
that sale, according to the way that the scholars of Medina at
that time used to interact is final, whether we get up or not.
So medic didn't rule by this hadith, because it contradicted
dominant. It oppose the Ahmed. So what does he say it must maybe
it's abrogated. Maybe the author, he's a human being could have made
a mistake. Maybe the transmitter? I mean, maybe there was other
conditions there. Okay.
Let's take another one in the Shafi school.
The neighbor has the first right of refusal.
That's not the narration that's accepted. That's not the ruling
that rule by
what is the first right of refusal, a surefire little jar,
hadith of Allah jar.
a shofar is when I'm buying something. There are times where I
have to inform somebody and that person gets the first right to buy
it, or to refuse to buy it. Like what if I own 50% of a business? I
cannot turn around and sell it to anybody I want to. I can only sell
it to somebody who, after asking my partner, do you want to buy it
first? Because now I put him in a bad situation that he has to have
a business with someone he doesn't like.
So this one, the narration that the chef I use use is a narration
that the neighbor has the first right of refusal if they have a
shidduch if they have some kind of partnership regarding the lens.
Okay, so that's another example of an Ahad Hadith that's not
utilized.
Next one, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam forbade eating
birds with talents.
Alright, talons being claws. Claws is not the right word. Talent is
the right word. Why? Because Medina they received them merge
with talents. Okay. But also, and honestly, these are not even the
best examples because the words are clear here. Right? The words
actually are clear here. These are examples of a head Hadith that are
outweighed by Matoba to Hadith. And the Ahmed of El Medina is
Matata. Okay.
The Taliban, the Sabbath, they all bought and sold, they all ate
bird, they fell, right? They all sold property. Did they do any of
this? No, they didn't do any of this. Okay.
So but these, these are good examples in terms of a HUD Hadith,
which are outweighed by them whatsoever. They're not exactly
good examples of had Hadith that are speculative in their language.
Okay, that have indefinite indefinite language.
All right, what is an example of that that can be put in this
category?
Most signs of the end of time?
Most signs of the end of time. Okay, that you could put them in
this bottom left, bottom right corner, because the language is
not definitive.
I don't know if this would work. But yeah, I forgot the wording of
the postcard from the Hadith. I think it's the word that he says.
So like when you touch your Oregon, Oregon, compared to the
water? Yeah. So this can be interpreted different ways. So the
chef is they would say, well, this means we'll do in the sense of
like washing the shot, it sounds like, yeah. And then the Hanafis
will say no, it means we'll do in the sense like you washed your
hands. Because it's established that like this, this doesn't wait
make sense. Yeah, with this one, come and have this whole entire
ruling when we have all these proofs that like, oh, wait this
right, that's even so in the Hanafi school. Your mic was on
right? You heard what Omar said? That's an example of unlimited
data right? Like we all make we do. Half the population has a male
private part and makes we do in life right? So wouldn't this thing
wouldn't this become what's what's it right? That's an example in the
Hanafi school what he said that if you male touches his private part
with his hand, there is a head it's not is even from his hobby.
It's from sadhana it will cost I believe his his son or grandson
came in with the Quran put his hand under his toe touched his
private part right and he says it's an what to study this in
England la la que mas esta la cara. Paulina Carla comfortable
perhaps you touch your private part. He said yes. He said get up
Magoo. The Hanafi school Hold on a second how could that one Hadith
affect will do we all make we do all the time, and we're all men.
So wouldn't this become widespread? Alright, so the Hanafi
is don't use that right interpret it actually. So how do you
interpret it the one that doesn't mean will do and like I said the
shadow will do it will do as wash your hands and you do well and
what that means you are
Sure hence
the hygenic never like go wash your hands and possess something
he's not saying to do will do with your hands. Everything. So the
magic is now this a great example because the magic is have a
different filter, which is Ahmed Medina and they do so that the
Ahmed was upon them. So they we they we do hold that. Yeah, if
your male touches his private part with the inside or the side of his
hand. In other words, the light colored skin part of the hand you
have to make wudu
Alright, now listen to the let's go to the
third part here.
Something that is not mass transmitted, but it's got a and
its implication namely that there is punishment in the grave. Did
not the Prophet sallallahu Sallam come up on two people and he said
they're being tortured right now. In their grapes. QBO sorry, came
up on two grapes.
Right? He came upon two graves. And he said they're being punished
right now on something that is not big, but it's big. Meaning they
thought it's not it's not a big in daily life. But in with Allah is
big. Right? Which was one, he always gossips. And the gossip is
not always backbiting. By the way. Gossip is always just talking
about people's affairs. That's not your business. And it could lead
to a lot of misunderstandings. Okay, and it's not lying either.
And it's not only saying what people don't like, okay, the
gossiper and the second one is the one who was not careful of
cleaning the urine from after going to the bathroom. Okay, so
punishment of the grave is established on that hadith.
And it's in a hat. Right? That's why the Tesla, what's the
difference between us and Mr. Tesla, they don't accept the these
had no basis at all.
At all, that's the mortality review. Okay. So that's one of the
big differentiators to differentiate between us and the
Morteza. We believe in punishment of the grid because we do accept a
HUD Hadith.
Okay.
So it's all in the Voodoo of RP, Dr. ADA has also written for that
which is much older, forms the floor. So that which is a
headphones the floor. So the existence of monka and Nikita
asking you questions in the grave.
Right. So for sure, there there are two angels called mocha and
Kia. Is that the name of the angel? Or is that the category of
the angel?
So how can I mean people are dying all the time? How is mocha Nikhil,
just two angels questioning all the humans? We're not going to
answer that we don't know. Could be the category it could be actual
two Angel one, his name is mocha one's name, Nikhil, it could be
that they are the chiefs of them. And they do the questioning and
there are others who do the question to ultimately so that
part we don't know. But the existence of two angels that will
ask you questions in the grave is established.
Mmm And Mandy, for example.
All right, roll up a model. You need to roll up real quick.
Scroll up. Yep.
There you go.
All right. The existing Imam and Maddie
it's that's there is for sure. Someone named Eddie mountain
Vandy. Right. Why because it's common sound clear narrations, but
those nurses are not going to watch it. That's why the rejection
of the return of Jesus is covered the rejection of email Maddie is
bitter.
Alright, barrier. Thank you for the comment there.
All right. So that's it. That's a quick Are there any questions?
Let's stop before we bring chef Maddie on. Let's stop really
quickly for any comments or question and brings Giacometti if
he's if he's on two. As soon as he logs in, bring him on and Jonah
like to hear what he has to say too about this
Hamza Hussein from Chicago
he's sick log of you shut up Hamza Hussain, of course.
An old school
attendee of the basically everything.
Any questions on this these subjects on
a hadith?
How do you do debunk Shia claims using Hadees.
The claim the claimant needs to provide the proof. Right.
So the way you want to look at it is that the claimant needs to
provide
these proofs that's the best way to look at it.
The Return of Jesus is it much larger
He, yes, the return of Jesus is firmly established as a mature
water
because of verse it's it's not explicit in the Quran, but it's
implied in the Quran as Allah saying where you call him on NASA?
Phil Mahadeo what Catala All right, as well as
Allah saying
we're Eman al Kitab Illa Allah you Mina Nebia Kabbalah Mota. There is
none from the People of the Book, except that will believe in him
before his death. Well, Mal cuts aloo masala boo laka should be
alone. Right? So on one hand, Allah says they didn't kill him.
And they didn't crucify him.
And on the other hand, he will die.
Right before his death. So that means he still has to live that
means he has to return. On top of that all of the a hadith that come
about this.
Okay.
There is a question here on did lmm Razi
hold opinions that that he doesn't act upon.
We don't take from the, the Hadith and the answers and for that
reason, people said he's deviant.
My research on that led me to some scholarly discussion saying that
this is simply not true. Right. Yet, I can't. I don't have the
quotes in front of me for why they said that and what quote they're
saying, so I can't answer that right now. Right, except that the
scholars that I saw speaking on this said, This is simply not
true. And there are other quotes in his books, where he utilizes
the Hadith, perhaps, what solely was meant was that
absolute knowledge cannot be gained from the Hadith. And tech
field cannot be made for someone who rejects such a head Hadith.
And as a result of that, but I can't give a firm
common that's just an edge Mehdi comment that I heard that this is
not true about a fuckload Razi.
All right, let's bring on chick, Maddy, check them out the leads
are Arabic program, ladies and gentlemen.
If you want to study Arabic,
really the best person to study Arabic is somebody who learned
Arabic from scratch. Chick Monday, of course, being somebody who was
a citizen of the world. Part Russian lived in England, part
Canadian, lived in the United States for a while now lives in
Bradford, England is a citizen of the world in terms of his nessip
and in terms of his Maisha where he actually lives. So mashallah
Sheikh Maddy, welcome to the November facts live stream.
Sounds like Catherine, thank you for the introduction. MashAllah
for the did you hear? Did you
hear what we just talked about? Regarding the Hadith?
Yes, a bit here. And there. I was okay. To work. Do you have any
comments for us on a shift that Rosie? In fact, the Rosie and I
had hadith is Do you Do you have knowledge on what is said about
him? And what he said exactly?
I don't know. I don't know. I just I just shared something with
brother Omar. From imamo. Both his book on the ahead. Yeah. Which is
like, it's on my blog. And it's part of the book. It's it's funny
introduction. Very good. It's called the scientific method of
researching truth. Mashallah, any moment, it just explains that I
have a hadith or not.
Because I'm not moved to where we want to go to whether I do you
think in terms of what you have, you must believe and what is
obligatory to believe as for what is an alhaja? Hadith? Yeah, that's
down here. And personal conviction. You cannot tell
someone must believe what is it based on a hadith.
So we take them into our theology, but it's not easy. It's not like
you have to believe that that's the point. Yeah. That's the
difference. And it's also there are things that people believe in,
that they're allowed to believe in, that they're not holding to be
religious statements. Okay. They're not held to be religious
statements, such as the specific karamat of odia.
Yeah, right. So we have to believe in karamat in general.
That's an obligation to the existence of miracles at the hands
of nonprofits that come without the claim of prophethood.
The Kurama is defined as a miracle.
Void of the claim of prophethood. That's the only difference between
the Quran and the Marchesa is that there is no claim of Prophethood
there. So the specific karama of a well even as a hobby
let's say somebody says, You know what, I don't believe that all
material hooked up said yes. adhia tangible.
So for the people who
who don't know that story. All might have a cutoff was given the
gym a hookah, sedia was a general, his general in Persia.
There was a mountain and the enemy had gone very low and was climbing
the mountain and could not be seen by the Muslims on the other side.
If they had reach there, they would have come down the Muslims
were unprepared, they would have killed so many Muslims.
Allah subhana wa Tada showed almost a double vision of that
while he's giving the chutzpah.
And he said yes, areata eligible.
And said he heard the voice of Omar in Persia ran up, saw the
enemy prepared, the Muslims saved hundreds upon 1000s of lives.
That's a Kurama. That's transmitted from satan onward. But
he was on the member.
If someone so I'm assuming that that's an AHA transmission, right?
I'm assuming that
except that assumption, if someone were to say no, you know what, I
don't believe that. Are we gonna say he's a Catholic, your marriage
is null and void. And prayer behind you is sinful? No, we're
not gonna say that.
So,
all right, tell us about your trip to Morocco.
Okay.
How many like it was very, very quick, very quick, very, very
fruitful, Mashallah. I had not been there for quite a while since
living there. So over over 10 years, but Hamdulillah, I received
an invitation
via my teacher said adding adding Filati, who I mentioned before,
he's one of those students of Sheikh Mohammed that we have. And
we studied together for four years when I was in Morocco was living
in Fez the first time and mashallah, he's introduced me to
different organizations associations over there. So I'm
actually a member of two Moroccan associations, one for the
preservation of the Koran and another one for service to the
Arabic language.
So he's hooked me up so to speak, so I'm signing up for those. And
they had a part in arranging this conference in Taiwan.
Which he got here, there's the brochure if you can see it.
MashAllah Danny, so the second the second international conference,
and it's about like its habitat, Animal Hospital disease, Allah,
Allah, believe it or not, is going to be housed. So it's about
textbooks for teaching Arabic to non native speakers as their
second conference.
So this is so this was an association with the main Teachers
College in into Diwan.
And a few other like intellectual and scholarly organizations, ie
Cisco is one of them as well.
That's an organization I had actually heard of is actually
linked to the IOC it's or the OYC
the organizations on the conference agenda. So this is this
is like an Islamic, cultural intellectual organization, and
other robots. So they had a hand in it, too.
And I was I was very
pleasantly surprised by what I saw. I mean, because I've been to
academic conferences before I've attended TEFL conferences. And
I've attended some once went to a conference a long time ago, in
Fez, I give us a short talk about about the Sierra conference in Fez
way back in 2008. And as people know about universities, like they
can be they can't be university conferences, they can't be boring.
Everyone, everyone's told to speak for 15 minutes and some some
people end up reading out their papers for 45. This reading off
the paper
it's worse than death by PowerPoint
hamdulillah Al Hamdulillah. What I found was I met people who
different different backgrounds.
Michelle, so I was I was there. I'll talk about my trip
afterwards. But I was there basically, from the Tuesday to the
Thursday of last week, from the seventh to the ninth.
We drove from Taiwan to Fez and back, I got hired a driver. I'll
talk about that afterwards. That was quite something else for the
conference. MashAllah was mostly Moroccans, but Moroccans, but
based in Morocco, and outside Morocco, so there are people like
we're teaching in Belgium and Spain and France and Germany,
Turkey
and they humbly love us a lot. They were just very passionate
people that what they do, that's what I love to see. They're really
passionate, passionate about what they do. And they stressed that
when we're giving when we're teaching Arabic non native
speakers, a lot of people weren't were teaching not Muslim, right?
Because when you when you think about the audience of what you
teach, you might be teaching. You might be teaching Muslims who have
something to do with Arabic, right? You might been teaching
Muslims who have no familiar familiarity with Arabic, right,
which is what we get with ArcView right we get a mixture of
Abigail, we have we have RMS who wanted to, or people are the
descendants of Arabs, and they live in United States or Canada
and in places. And then you get people who are not Muslim and not
from Arabic background at all right?
So they talked about these differences. And they said that
when you're teaching the people, we're not even Muslim.
Arabic, so you understand that you are you are actually calling
people to Islam through air. So
that's what you're doing. You're calling people to faith through
Arabic. And they kept to the point that you don't have to be forceful
with it. You don't have to be
in their face with it. You don't have to be, you know, stubborn or
rude or anything. Just just show the good character. Show them the
beauty of the language show how much you love the language show,
especially the languages and they will come to punk. They will come
on all right. I mean, there was one one doctor.
I mean, they're all very impressive martial and one doctor,
what are they they've been speaking to kept in contact with.
Dr. Mohammed, it's mighty Lila, we switch the big family Morocco,
right? Because the other reason the other words themselves are
branches. And he's from the smiley Allah we branch.
You know, he told stories about how he'd been teaching
Arabic to two Americans who come from Morocco for many years. And
he said, I've watched the people become Muslim before me, just
through Justin teaching the Arabic explaining what they mean. You
know, you I was reading one of his articles yesterday told this
beautiful story of how
he was teaching his teaching Arabic to an American lady, like
not Muslim.
And she was asking like, what, why there's so many pronouns in
Arabic. Crazy, like what why do you have the singular the dual?
The plural? Right? wants to bring the leftist in? Yeah, yeah. Well,
that was his response. That was his response. And it's because
because she was asking like, why it's so complicated. Yeah. The
singular doing the masculine, feminine and feminine plural is
gonna stuff. And he and he just looked his response was *
Cuckooland said Serato, Jeep, Jeep, right, everyone, everyone
has everyone is acknowledged, everyone is acknowledged as a
separate legal entity, and everyone is recognized, and
therefore everyone has the everyone has his or her or their
appropriate appropriate pronoun. Right? And he's like, Oh, yep. see
you that way? Is the the uncle and the N is the number one thing
right? Like, yeah, Turnell uncle paternal uncle these are two
totally different feelings towards them. Right? Yeah.
Because they're different separate people. We don't have the words
industry express those differences.
So that's, that's part of like, that's that's a whole like novelry
that he works on this Dr. Muhammad is fine. And either we like he
shows. So really what the Arabic language does Arabic is actually
just a reflection of creation. It's a reflection of everything
that last year. So that's why we have the dual form some because a
lot create everything from Enzo Jane. Yeah, that's why they do
will exist because Allah is causing showing that then nothing.
Okay, well, then why? Why did Arabic words have roots because
everything creation has roots, a G, my G. Factor is everything goes
back to something. It's a prime, even though the things are even
when we look at things, like for example, you just take the root
kits of like, yes, a Mexico is not the same as a keytab. It's not the
same as a tube is still the same cystic tab and so on. So of all
the all the words are different. Yep. But they have a source,
right? They come from a similar source.
So that was a that was beautiful to see. And I think what I learned
as well from the conferences was I learned that from the conference
itself, I mean, this doctor and his research, that could be a
whole nother discussion, but what I loved the conference itself was
they gave a very, very good presentation about the books that
were available, or the books that people use to teach Arabic and
whether it's al Kitab, from Georgetown University Press or 20
a week.
And a couple other ones they mentioned and then and they
collectively they all talked about, you know, like what
audiences each one students for. But
I learned that a lot of these books do have
I'm just saying this as a as a teaser. I was I was getting a lot
of hope because I learned a lot of books that are out there that
other organizations use they can't they do have major flaws is
especially in teaching Arabic.
And then the same time again, remember, these are Moroccans, the
Sunnis Moroccans, they should they were raising was why do they keep
pressing and putting forward Egyptian culture or culture in the
books?
That's true. Yeah, it's like, Arab culture is Egyptian culture.
This is this isn't fair. This is a right so
but, but I learned I learned a lot about how those other books work
and where they fall and that's why I have a lot of hope about what
we're doing here with ArcView number one reason I would give is
that inshallah in the summer I will be doing a comparative
English Arabic grammar course critical.
And that's where I spoke about my presentation. So when I when I
spoke, I said that's the main
major obstacle I'm finding some say from the Anglosphere of the
Anglophone world is that
people don't are not comfortable with English grammar, with English
grammar, then how are we going to tackle Arabic grammar? That's
totally true. That's totally true. So. So I gather from that. We put
all that together. I thought that was a really helpful perspective.
No one talks about the Academy series
about
this series I use called it to Kingdom. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Because it's Egyptian, but.
But
maybe I could talk about that at a later date. But yeah, what I found
after a two day conference, and at the end of it, the same Dr.
Malcolm Gladwell, he just made a brilliant point. And I think this
is this plays into like, the philosophy we tried to put forward
at ArcView as a whole notice, or if you're Arabic as a whole, it
just the importance of the teacher, because he I mean, he
just made a beautiful statement at the end. Because people are
invited up to give like closing closing statements and remarks.
And he said, he said, you know, well, I'm gonna tell you this,
just very straight from my experience. He said, Give me a
week student, give me a week textbook. But just give me a good
teacher SubhanAllah. Your Give me your give me a good teacher, that
week, student will learn something that we think will get upon,
right? And then the flip side, he said, he said, you know, we all
these conferences, he said,
you look at the books, he said, like I know him, I respect my
colleagues here. And some of them have put out excellent textbooks
for Arabic. It's like, if you don't have the right teacher, at
some point, those textbooks aren't gonna get very far. That's totally
what I think. And when it comes to Arabic textbooks, I mean, there's
so many different, you know, approaches, some heavy on
exercises, some heavy on theory, right? And then the order of what
you study, I remember, remember, remember, the Georgetown Arabic
books how they have, that's when I'll kitab. That's the one out.
Yeah, it was called. So that one had a very interesting order. It's
almost like sometimes I felt that are you trying to, like dissuade
people from studying Arabic by the order of what you're saying?
Because they would go into straight into like, the numbers,
right? Which numbers are feminine? which numbers are masculine,
right? And the students like on week three, they're totally
confused. Right? You know, so tell us, tell us about your Arabic
program that you teach it, can somebody join in a rolling fashion
or is it by semester that they can join Oh, it's in a rolling fashion
isn't isn't totally rolling fashion. So, because everything,
everything is recorded, so because everything is recorded,
and then what people pay the pay the $4 a month as per household,
and you you jump in wherever you feel fit. So we have a placement
test. And then we have all the end of level tests. And then once you
pay that subscription, you and your house will have access to
everything, it's all you have access every single level all the
recordings, all the live sessions, all the handouts all the extra
material very and then and then you once you jump in, you do your
placement test and you figure out where you need to where you need
to be and you take it from there. So if you find yourself for
example, in you fit in one or two, you can do the one or two
recordings if you want to try one with three which I'm teaching live
you can jump into that and do all the same time.
We're trying to be here as flexible as possible. And then and
then on top of that, on top of that we do have a weekly session
where I have office hours so to speak, I just you know I turn on
Zoom I'm there and if you have any questions you come in and ask me
like is there anything in the classroom to understand if you're
especially if you're doing recordings and there's something
that you missed out?
You can ask me
and as soon as don't have any questions. We are working our way
through the book tour when Arabic verbs for education and
that's something people always need. I mean, I think the last
session I did
the last session I did i The two students came in and we just
looked at videos we just watch videos we just looked at how would
you translate this we watch we watch a couple YouTube videos that
have
the oddly the the text written below the subtitles below in
Arabic. So you match the audio with the Texas I can now translate
for me. That's
which is that's a new feature, by the way YouTube does anyone know
like that? Arabic? YouTube is now automatically Arabic. Arabic
subtitles automatically? Yeah, yeah. Without the author without
the YouTube producer, or the video maker having to put it Yeah,
exactly. Exactly. So they're in that they're dealing with all like
new videos. So I think I think if you take it back maybe six months
now and you'll get subtitles for videos so so yeah Hamdulillah that
whole
Yeah, that whole that whole process. It's much like it's there
and it's flexible and you're free to you want to do and then we also
have the WhatsApp groups as well. So I'm receiving questions on an
interim basis. What does this mean? What does that mean? How I
do this? I was reading this why is this a little bump on why's Why
were the 10 we what's going on?
And
so yeah, how many Latin we're creating? We're creating community
along those regards along those lines.
That reminds me, yeah, unless you were gonna say, No, go ahead. The
book club.
Yeah. Oh, yes. That's gonna be the first one you read? Yes, yes
races. And this also ties in because I use this book in my
presentation Morocco and I showed it to people and I feel I feel
silly cuz I should have been more copies with me just the handout
like I should have got Arabic copies as well.
Because this is this is called mintage. Toby for review Korean
cameras, right.
A unique pedagogical approach. Look, I know people struggle that
word.
Pedagogical
pedagogical approaches. Yeah, yeah. So the so this, I use this
because mama Bodie has lots of examples in there. But how about
how Allah speaks in the Koran and how you cannot be translated. And
this shows the beauty of the language and this this is part of
the role. This is one things I talked about over there. Like the
conference I talked about the importance of when you're teaching
the Arabic language, when you use the Koran use the Quran for the
Tapi
people to make people love the Arabic language Jeebs. Right.
Well, they can like in the La Habra by liking when the man was
Xena was enological will be combined. This Koranic word
was a rock. So
the beat the people the conference that they were interesting as
well, because some of them were
not just 111 man I met was not just a doctor, professor. He's
actually a fetish. Like, almost like a school's inspector. Yeah.
He's like, I need to read that to this
guy's address, and everything.
So this this is this is what the book we're going to be reading
about. Because what happens in here is what do you call a bull
thesis is a summary is what he shows in this book. And he is
bringing examples as he shows how
that the whale law speaks to you and the poor N. A law doesn't go
the simple, raw, intellectual way. He doesn't speak to you in a
strictly intellectual, rational way.
Nor does he speak to you in a purely emotional way. Right?
Because if someone speaks in a purely emotional way that they're
trying to swindle you, somehow, right? Yeah, that's like
advertising or politicians, or they just give you they just give
you some swag. And here's when it's like, Oh, that feels great.
Yeah, that's not allowed. That's not law speaks you but the same
law doesn't speak to you like a vacuum, like like a vacuum cleaner
instruction. So right, or should we manually limit so so for
example, the moment both these points on the book, he says, You
can't if you read, if you read sort of Gerard
on the last page, I think it's I 12 What law says, well, they
talked about the Komaba like no one let none of you back by
another one. Right? No, that's that's your intellectual rational
statement. Right? That's a lot of telling you don't backbite and
it's hot off to back by
but then after that, a lot of times that your emotions and says
Would one of you want to eat the dead flesh of his brother
Subhanallah you can find that disgusting somehow. Right? So so
that's how a lot of species are out the Koran. Even even the I
even when you go to the I
mean, this
is what I 23 when a law addresses the
talks about being good to your parents. Right. And this is this
example I want to make during this right because it's so subtle.
It won't last so so Allah Allah says
Amen, be wildly Damia Santa's in my yellow banana in the Kibera.
Right. So you might read that quickly think okay, what was when
they reach old age when they reach old age? But Allah throws in one
word, which is
when they when they grow old with you? Assumptions, you move them
into you to your house? Yeah, yeah, you're Yeah, exactly.
They're in your present. They're just following Oh, yeah. 100 All
right. So it's these subtle phrases. So Allah Allah doesn't,
never speaks is getting their speeches in that sort of dry
fashion or never speaks in a purely emotional fashion. He puts
them both together because that's how we are as human beings. We're
a combination of, of emotions and intellect.
So we're gonna be, we're gonna be talking about we're going to be
reading this book inshallah or summarizing it, starting on Sunday
inshallah.
So, someone can join ArcView Arabic, and then they could join
this book club. Oh, no, it's actually open book club to
everybody here. How do people sign up for it?
There's a telegram group. There's a telegram group and on the
telegram group, I will post the Zoom link inshallah.
I'll be posting the post or on my social media pages. Very good. Do
you do you have the link here? We can put it on YouTube right now.
Yeah, hold on everyone. Feel free to join.
Shaping Maddies
book club.
And by the way, I know many people there converts. They
Love the teaching of Islam, but have a hard time with the
intimidating, you know reality of another language. Let me tell you
this, ask Allah to make you love it. And don't look at it as an
academic endeavor. Take it as an action of love that I'm gonna
learn little by little one word at a time and note and the grammar is
important. But vocab is even more important.
Because once you have a lot of vocab, then you can study grammar.
So don't look at it merely as a technical class. And that's like
burdensome. No, look at it word by word. And I'm telling you, people
who fall in love with prayer and thicker, they read ODOT. Right?
They and they read certain verses that are prayers. They get good at
Arabic just from that. And I've seen so many people who are not
they're not students. I know for sure that they didn't do good in
school. Guaranteed they didn't do good in school.
But they're they've learned Arabic and two, three years
ago, one guy told me, he said he hadn't before entering Islam, he
had never willfully picked up a book.
Right? He said, when we had to read Huck Finn, Tom Sawyer those
things in school, he went the route of CliffsNotes and getting
summaries off YouTube. Like he never read a book, I'm telling
you. But then when he entered Islam, he was so curious, it was
really such that his heart was driving everything. So ask Allah
to Allah to make you love
the study all of Arabic, you'll advance?
Well, absolutely, I mean, that that I remember you mean Ramadan,
because like when I when I first started studying Arabic properly,
I think in my second year of university, and again, back in
Morocco, this is like, Wait, this is like, what September October
2001. And I remember going into the library at the language
center. And just seeing the books and recognize I have enough Arabic
recognize the names like
I can't read this. I don't I don't know it yet. Yeah. So then then
then after that, I remember I made the regular dua just like oh,
Lord, give me the burning desire for this Subhanallah because you
need because that's what you need. It's not intellectual thing. This
again, part of what we cover in this in this book, and this is
somebody mumbles he stresses a lot is the fact that your intellect is
like the headlights on your car. Yeah, we covered that before,
right? It's not your it's not gonna move your car.
But it's the emotions, it's the love that's gonna move you
when you have that love the Arabic language. So your emotions are
there the engine of the petrol, so when you have that love the Arabic
language, it will come and you will just use want to learn more
and learn more and learn more and learn more. And that's that I love
that concept that learning is about getting somewhere, you need
a destination. And learning happens because you're driven
individ personally and emotionally to a destination. And that's how
you have so many people who are terrible at school. Right? And
they're telling about everything else. But they they know a lot
about their Deen because they love the goal that the deen is
providing them, right? Whether it be a worldly goal of Sakina or
just
they love their Creator. That's it. I mean, people that natural
fit throughout people to love their Creator, and you love your
Creator. So how do I keep juicing that? And getting more of that? I
need to I need to learn how. That's one of the things I hate
about school to be honest with you.
School is it's all techniques. It's techniques about things but
no goal. You didn't give us a goal. What's the goal? Oh, you
better learn this for second grade. Second grade you learn it
for third grade. Then at then they say you learn it for your job. But
what is the goal? tell you a story about a guy.
This guy was a complete failure in school. I think he barely passed
High School barely. But he loved stuff that everyone else loves.
Right?
You see this guy today? This guy knows contract law. This guy knows
business. This guy knows tax law. Now how did he get there? He this
guy knows so much. How did he get there? He loved the stuff that
everyone else loves cars etc. So he started he got a job wrapping
cars. He loved it so much he would stay after hours he had like no
life. Right? He stayed go in the morning. He lived basically lived
at the shop, painting calipers wrapping Benzes wrapping BMWs
getting different kinds of wrap different shades, some wrap goes
from like purple to green if you look at it in the sun.
So eventually after like years of this he realized I got a bunch of
money in the bank. I could probably do this in my own garage.
One thing after another he now owns multiple garages where they
do all sorts of detailing for cars.
And he doesn't do it himself anymore. He just guys gets
And he's a businessman, essentially, when you're
businessman, you got to learn about taxes, you got to burn out
law, you got to learn how to hire employees, how to hire managers
how to do all these things, right? Insurance on these cards, these
vehicles, you have a vehicle like that in your garage, someone falls
and scratches it. What's the insurance on these things? Is it
in the contract? That guy can give courses now, just from from his
experience? Point being is that it's really what you said is the
love of the deen Love of Allah that drives you to learn the
language of his book. Right? So don't even view it as learning
view it as a journey.
Right. And the community part tell us about the community part of the
Arabic program. Yeah, so the cleaning part this this is what it
is really up to is. We already have the community feel as well,
obviously already, in terms in terms of the the classes
themselves in terms of the WhatsApp group.
But that's the reason why we're sitting on this, this book, this
this, this book club, is monthly study circle, it is to have more
of a relaxed feel. So I'm not I'm not going to be assigning homework
or anything like that, or it's gonna be an extra question or
expecting people to answer questions. I want people to feel
just relaxed and all, you know, I'll spend maybe half an hour just
explaining of a portion of the Book, like what I got out of as a
translator and insights and so forth. And then it's open q&a,
just to let just to let people feel free to give their own
comments or insights, what they think about the book. What does a
certain thing immunosuppression mean?
And I think that's
that's the that's the other part of it that because that's the I
would say the
the downside of the online world right now is it's very, it's very
hard to it's very hard to have the the community, the community feel
the community setting, because people are not people. Not really,
because there again, I was hit by that at the conference, for
example, it just like conference, because they told me that the
first time they did that conference was during COVID.
Right, which was they had to do it online. Yeah. Because the COVID,
right. So as you as you as you know, any sort of academic
conference, the real, the real benefit of it is like the
networking.
Right? Like, like, yes, there's the talks to everything, but it's
when you actually go on the break, and then you get a tea in the
coffee, and you start talking to people Yeah, can people start
shooting numbers? What do you do it? What do you do? What have you
polish what you read? And so on, so forth. So this is an attempt to
add that. And I think I think after that, I think we should
really talk about
getting at getting
I'm asking your opinion on this as well. I think it'd be good if we
could get sort of actual physical gatherings, eventually, that will
be amazing. I wonder what would be the central location? I mean, if
there was a place in the middle of the Atlantic, that would be
central. But what do you think is the central location?
Ah, we've got it. We've got a wide net, we've got we've got people
from the UK as people from the US, Canada, there's people from
Dubai, there's people from Africa, it's quite wide, but I might maybe
I could arrange like a few.
You know, the best thing is, we can get a kind of chart one of
those charts with the dots on it, and see who wants to come to the
conference. Right? And where they are. Because if you have 20, who
want to come from the conference that are from England,
and five from the US, you got to do it in England. Right? Yeah, we
will do it in England. If you have, you know, evenly dispersed
then we pick a middle point.
So if you have Californians and you have England than the East
Coast, the American East Coast is the middle point. Yeah.
So we got to do that. It's it's definitely some it's definitely
something that that has been, actually remind me now, this idea
of someone through the study of my way.
Was it a Moroccan or Egyptian someone threw this away and said,
How come you don't have an association in the in the
Anglosphere in the English speaking world? That is all about
the preservation of Arabic or serving the Arabic language? Like
where's our Jamia? Yep. Yep. That's maybe something we should
be thinking about, like we should have, we should have our own like
gymea ought to be or something that that deals with, you know,
Western Association for the protection preservation Arabic
language or something in the Anglophone world. There's a random
College in Vermont that focuses on languages and their summer Arabic
program became famous in my day.
All right, it's not it's called Middlebury. Their Summer Intensive
was two weeks. There was a guy from Middlebury the conference.
Oh, really? So I'm not surprised. They have a branch they've ranch
Morocco. Wow. This I think it's a language focus college, but their
Arabic program people used to say is the best. Right, but we need we
need them.
Muslims to run an Arabic program. I'll tell you what drives me crazy
taking those. I did take Arabic classes. Alright lyrics of OMA
Kulsoom, right? I could care less about the speech from Jamal Abdul
Nasir, right? I could totally care less about this stuff, right? We
you're going there, you want the spirituality of Islam, right? And
that's the only reason you're studying the language. Most people
are like that. So when they have to give us that modern standard
stuff,
to me is it's like, it's a killer. It's a motivation pillar. We need
more we need more this other thing I put out the conference and I
learned this one of my professors beforehand is with our teaching of
Arabic, we need to have we Yes, we need to incorporate the core and
more into this, which is what we're doing here. But there needs
to be more of Hadith. We need somebody hiding more in Arabic
because the point the point about about the Quranic Arabic, is that
on the one on the one hand, yes, you're learning about how a law
speaks to you and the different layers of meaning the law gives to
you and the beautiful prose of the law has. And that brings us closer
to a law, which is why you exist, but you can't emulate you can't
imitate that speech. Right? Because it's as much as this
language is you can't you can't take that and then implement in
your own life. But the Sun is different. The sun is the peak of
human speech listeners the peak of human speech, so I've been doing
that as well in my hand as it's bringing more ahadeeth show people
that they get this speech that's also beautiful, but it's you can
actually emulate this. Yeah, because it's human speech.
So that that might be that might be for the book club. That might
that might be something we consider next because I've got
another book my multi not translated, but I could do it in
Arabic.
Is it here? Yeah.
Phil hadith shareef we believe and number we're right. So it's all
about the Hadith gives you Hadith terminology and talks about the
biological the proper size of them. So you actually study how
the prophesy some speaks. And then he does in there, that book he
does talk about the difference between humans between the Koran
and the prophetic speech. There's a there's a clear difference even
though that is the peak of human speech, and it has its own beauty,
you can clearly see the difference. And he said, he said,
This is why people never got confused between beforehand. And
the some people get confused with whether the mesh philosopher some
says something where there was honorable football, or that can
happen. Yeah. Between the Koran and any other kind of human
speech. No, there's never any confusion, no difference. And, you
know, one way that I used to teach Arabic was through a resetting of
Cush. ADEA stories of the audio at the end. Oh, Michelle, is everyone
wants to read those stories, right?
Like one page story of
even like prophetic stories as well. No, it's like one page
incident. Get that that was you know, piques curiosity, and people
want to know what what actually happened. See the love stories?
Yeah. So to me, it was one of the best ways to study because
everyone wants to know what's going to happen next.
You're giving you're giving me ideas now because I've got a
couple of biographies in the pipeline that I'm working on what
one one is,
mmm in Norway, that's like halfway done. It's a biography of
Docker and then I'm also going to be tackling, inshallah magic
eyeglass tomorrow, I'm tackling
Kalibo Becker and let me know
because he's in his book called Unity wheel he has, he has his
own, like his own autobiography, actually. And he talks about his
story where he said, where he where I'm aware, and how we study
knowledge.
So these are things we're all we're all putting ideas together
and this that's what's so fun about the journey is that you just
get new ideas coming your way you think yeah, this can be a
translated book or this could be a
this could be a book that I put into Arabic and English for the
benefit of my students, which is that's one things I'm doing now.
Like right now I've got a book in front of me was like working on
before we started this is a book called
Adebola Hey, water for the Koran.
The advocates of dialogue Unicron by Michael Bolton is a very very
short book. It's very short it's only like 28 pages but I'm putting
together in Arabic and English like a star just to see
how people can see text side by side and the book club book where
can people buy we need a link people are asking for it. Okay, so
it's on it's on now a bookstore calm No. books.com But but that's
from Singapore. But if you go to the link, I'll give a link I'll
share it I'll send a link across email or send it to you or to Omar
since it's almost an hour Omar have posted up yeah, if you click
on that nella Books link, you scroll down, you'll see all the
Amazon links. Okay, because
we're like wherever you are in the world.
You can get it from Europe or America. Yeah. Very good. Or any
or anywhere that were they do the Amazon delivery. So wonderful. You
do you have a slideshow? Alma Did you run the slideshow already?
Yes. I played the picture this Jeff and I had the said yeah, as
you guys were talking. So unless you
I'm going to replay them and you can Oh, you
good. What more about Morocco? Morocco.
Morocco is a beautiful country. It's safe. It's
it's a place. Yeah. And it's pretty much far away from
fitten. You know,
it's far with that stuff as a great culture. Yeah, I was I was I
was living I was living there when when the Arab Spring cook kicked
off.
Back in early 2011. I remember all the all the hook was at that time
was the Imams kept stressing, because they said to kids, one
thing they said is fine, if you if you want to petition the
government, or you want to complain about certain things,
that's fine. But he said, You gotta remember that the name of
this bed is a stickler SubhanAllah. That's true. We have
stability, right? And again, it's been the same royal family for 330
something years. That's crazy. That's crazy. And I remember that
very, very clearly. Because when, because where I was teaching
English was the American Language Center and Fez, which also houses
Elif, which is the Arabic language SUTA Fez. I don't know if you've
ever been there, I remember that, but I never been there. Yeah, it's
a very, very, very famous place. That's where I originally started
Arabic, because it's the same building. And
they there used to be they so they would receive, for example, like
every every year, like a group from Leeds University come by, and
then they would receive a short cameras, right. And then they also
received, like, study groups from different American universities
like, like from Dartmouth, and from Florida and these companies.
And I remember like that, that years like that spring 2011, there
was like hundreds of people from the US crazy. Because they
couldn't go they couldn't go to Egypt, they couldn't go to Syria.
So it was just packed. Furthermore, from from a spiritual
perspective, I'll tell you, how else you'll get better in Arabic
in Morocco is that if you go after every Maghrib, and recite the his
with the group, and then after every HR before, I don't know what
it is different areas, they have that out of play dots readings,
just from the devotional readings, your eyes get so used to seeing
words, and seeing verbs, and seeing nouns and seeing patterns,
right. And a lot of people just from devotional recitation, they
get good at Arabic, because when you're, when you're I get so used
to the words, that stops being an obstacle. Now finding the meaning
is actually pretty easy. Using a dictionary is pretty easy, because
my eye knows where the effect is. And so that's where I'll tell you
why that's important is because Arabic is harder
regarding the letters than anything else, because the
difference between three letters could just be little dots. In
English, every single letter is completely a separate shape. The P
and the B is pretty close. That's it pretty much, right? Yeah, the
that's it, the P and the B.
Yeah, like in the sense that it's one loop versus two loops, capital
B, and capital P is one loop has two loops. But other than that,
like there's, it's very hard to confuse letters, just the B and
the D lowercase the line on the opposite side of the circle. But
that's it. The letters have nothing to do with it s and t and
R, the R and the z have nothing to do with each other right in the
shape. But there is not understand that there's a theory, this is
another surprise that our languages are we're only implies
two European languages. But there's true that says that in
English, if as long as the first letters is there, and the last
letters there, you jumble up everything in the middle and still
read it.
Right? And it's true. And you can actually read like a poster. And
it makes sense. As long as the first letter is there the second
and the last letters there were supposed to be Yeah, and this is
fine. Everything else can be in whatever already. Yeah,
imaginable, but I don't think that would work in Arabic. Arabic,
which is so many words. Yeah. Totally a mess you up. Arabic. The
beauty of Arabic though, is that there's no concept of mixing two
languages. Whereas we do have that in English, like the Oh, sounds in
English is famously, you know, 10 different ways. Good food. Right?
Yeah. Cool. They're all different. Right? Yeah, exactly. So there's a
lot of examples of that in English because English is Germanic plus
Latin. Mixed. Yeah. So it's it's pretty dramatic landscape and has
Latin roots. Yeah.
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Credential. All right. Thank you so much for coming on.
I'll see you soon. All right. Sounds like Mr. Abdullah.
All right, ladies and gentlemen. Now that was
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now move to the q&a session or final segment of the day. All
right, talking about Imam Razi, what did he say about the
intellect? Well, one thing I could tell you right away is that any
narration that presents a contradiction within itself,
or with a multilateral source
will be more well. Simple as that. I mean, that's,
you know, well known, and it's in Morocco sold as well. All right.
It's in Morocco sold as well, that any any texts in our tradition?
And why is it well, well, what what is the value of Arabic words
having multiple meanings if we never use them? Right? Like, why
did they have multiple meanings in the first place? So if the top
meaning offers a contradiction of some sort, it has to have another
meaning. Right? And the meaning cannot come from our heads, and
the meaning can end the wheat cannot come? Because we can
imagine it, right? Oh, I can't imagine a horse that flies. So
therefore, we must make that wheat. No, B, B, you're not
imagining it doesn't mean it's illogical. You have to understand
this very basic point. Logic refers to Macula yockel refers to
internal contradictions. Good. That's where the weed comes or
contradiction with a higher source. That's where the weed
comes from. And the content of the wheel is the Arabic language not
whatever word we want to make up that suits our sensibilities. And
the one who does it is a munchkin. What's a Kelim? Or someone who was
extremely trusted and knowledgeable in the Arabic
language. Simple as that.
Tony FOMs says fam says is the reason for changing positions
after Salah so that a different piece of the Earth can testify
that you made thicker on yo PM. Yes, that's oftentimes one of
them. For sure. Well, that's a fact. Either way, whether it's a
narration or not, we know that the Earth does testify, whether it's a
narration for prayer or not, the Earth does testify. So that is a
fact that the earth will testify. But there isn't necessarily a
I personally haven't seen on so many see you for a specific pneus
saying to do that, right. It's not saying that it's wrong to do that.
But it's just one of those things that we all do, without
necessarily seeing it, you know, it's not clear in the books, as
otherwise we'd have seen it been like a fool dealer. It would be in
the Fatah to Salah is to move from a different location, right.
Also, keep in mind that one person saying that they haven't seen it
doesn't mean anything. Right. But I'm pretty sure after all these
years if it was a clear phobia of Salah it would have been in one of
the books that we read in fifth grade. Alright, let's go to
another one here. Come to Detroit and visit data Rama Jolla, we'll
do that the choice not far at all.
Okay.
In an ashram IWEA in magic effect making dua after tech via tele
Haram is mcru.
That includes draw a list of data, but it does not include the dua
after Tisha hood. The dua after Tisha hood is a for Lila to do.
But the DUA L is Stifter
in the obligatory prayers mcru. So, how did the Prophet do it? And
you're saying what through the prophet could have done it in the
nebula, right. So that's, if, if, if I'm not mistaken, it's Abba
Hodeidah who heard it, who narrates it, if I'm not mistaken.
So perhaps he was watching the Prophet pray naphtha.
And heard him say that so we say that it's in the nebula, not in
the felida
is wanting a McLaren against to so wolf if it's not really in the
heart, what is to so first of all the best stuff and one of the best
definitions is
out Allah Citco toa Juhi Illa Allah seeking ALLAH SubhanA wa
Tada
good seeking Allah subhanaw taala
when you seek ALLAH to Allah, we implied in there is a starting
point. What starting point are you?
You could be someone who has just explicated himself or extricated
himself from a dozen unlawful relationships in business and with
women
and went and spent hours a day reviewing how much does a cow you
owed in the past? That person who's at that kind of lifestyle,
he he's, he's drawn near to Allah.
And that person wants to get himself a McLaren is already a
multimillionaire.
Where's the effector? No effect. Look at what he's where he he's
coming from. So you see the relativity here? Right? You see
the relativity here? It's not even far off that a person loves the
things of the dunya. But he loves us law law as well. The question
is, does he do forbidden things for the sake of that Dooney it's
also not far off that a person he loves nephila to he loves the
vicar but
zoo hood, living the simple life hasn't yet is not something he's
been blessed with. You know who else was not as ahead? I'm not
gonna say like McLaren level, but mimetic himself used to wear nice
clothes. You said, I have the letter here. Actually. It's a
beautiful letter.
A man wrote to Malik, one of those who hurt. He said, Malik, Allah
has given you so many virtues. He's given you knowledge. He's
given you the respect of the people. He's given you Hadith.
He's given you so many things.
And yet, we see you wearing the clothes of the princess. Were very
nice clothes.
So we advise you to take on the hood. What did medic write back?
He didn't write back a harsh letter. He wrote back thank you
for your nasiha and know that Allah disperses the rain wherever
he wishes, that a man may be given one virtue but not another.
So that was the great ematic on the nice clothes that he was and
by the way that was at that later in life. In the beginning, he was
very poor. Even was said that he sold
he sold a panel from the roof of his house to buy books.
Right so he could study. So that's an example. Here's Queen Nora
says, Does terra nullius and hear louder than my words apply in any
way to the Zinus in Palestine?
First of all, we have to talk about it here out of the mouths
and there's a lot of conditions that have to do with that.
Okay, what what the questioner is saying is here I have done my what
is to revive Earth land that's been abandoned.
The next part of 1948 Hey, Ahmed, you have that let's play that the
Instagram video
a lot of the land of Palestine that is now Israel wasn't merely
it wasn't merely
abandoned Lent. Right. Speaking of Palestine let's let's go to this.
Let's watch this. We're going to watch a one was going to burn it
up. We'll take other questions until he does that but one of our
community members, many people don't know this about him. But he
was featured now on AJ plus, not community members, community
leaders. He's now 92 years old May Allah bless him. And AJ plus has
recently
featured him. So let's take a look at this. Let's take a look at
this. Alright, give him a second I'll take another question.
Someone said this orange shawl is called the justia because when it
didn't it just used to wear that
what's the romatic he sang on was staying in was Delhi for during
Hajj. A sitting is enough.
The very small amount of time enough that you just sat rested
less than 200 Tisha hood and you got up that's it. You don't have
to say half the night you don't have to stay the full night.
It's one of the great wisdoms of that is the traffic eases up
because of that different ruling. Imagine if everyone had to stay to
fudge and then travel would be very difficult.
Alright, let's take a look at this
I was sleeping about Fort care in the morning, my grandmother came
and she woke me up. She says don't get up there shooting. Right away.
I opened the big window facing the town and I show that the village
was old ablaze.
We were attacked by the zaniest for three sides is north and south
besides God, and we managed to go to the west side
aka rub one, you came and he was sleeping in the bed. They took him
out from there, put him on the wall, and they shot eight holes on
his phone. And he wouldn't do the floor going around the wrong
chicken, we'll do it
when she hit my brother Omar, she wanted to take him back with hair,
the God told you know we have orders, nobody can take anybody
out. So either you put him down, or I will shoot you. So my mother
at that time, she would back very sad would not be able to take her
child. So my mother she had all her life and saying why didn't I
get my son was a bit too short
this was the calculated measure plan headquarters recruit groups
they want to scare the people so they don't leave their homes and
that's worked out in the bigger cities himself that if it wasn't
for domestic Delia she never will not be Israel today
you see those children filled in and waste bag, you know, you
remember area see massacre. And she Oh my goodness.
So these people actually don't have any mercy in their hearts.
We would never never set in, because we believe we are fighting
to get our land back rather die. All of us fighting. We know that
in the end, God would give us fake victory Shaohua.
Great evil of today state of Israel SubhanAllah. That's the
evil of today.
It was the Nazis last century. It's them this time around.
Right. And they did it in the same decade in which they were
massacred meaning their reaction to the massacre to the Holocaust.
It was nothing other than printing it up inside and doing it to other
people. That's it. So you when you come from the north, south and the
east, clearly what are you doing? You're pushing them to the west.
Like that's what they wanted. Right.
Alright, couple more questions that we'll take here. Were there
any cases, when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam had to
produce something which required going against the imperative of
Islam. There was an instance in the Battle of the hunt duck,
in which the prayer time of Austin
passed, and all my little hot dogs that love Kirsty's enemies they
caused us because they're like receiving arrows caused me to miss
us.
And the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said I too have to pray
us right so that's an example of
a time in which the war the battle
busy the Companions from the prayer and they were they had no
choice but
to pray outside the time that they had usually would pray.
All right, are we allowed to watch the MMA because of the outta I
mean it's punching the the face yeah, that those things are haram
there's no
way around that punch in the face uncovering your Outre.
Those things are how to there's no there's no way around that. Plus
even not the punch in the face when like the choking for example,
right joke
Hold those things, those things are forbidden for us to do
after Ramadan do women have to make God for last days due to the
monthly period before passing the six white days? And the answer is
yes, you always prefer prioritize the obligation over the Sunon and
the six white days in the medical school or anytime in the year not
limited to show what
is there in any opportunity to justify your deed on yomo PM,
people will be taken to court on the day of judgment and they will
be asked to explain themselves but they can only say the truth there
will not be anyone like that lying is cannot happen in
in the afterlife.
When are you guys coming to Maryland? We're coming soon.
Inshallah I keep saying soon, but we haven't figured out when but
we're gonna inshallah.
Alright, it's better to feed a hungry unwell person first, then
pray or pray first.
While it depends if there's time
than the prayer,
then feeding. If it's Maghrib, then method first, like Maghrib is
the one prayer that you would not delay
and provided in the other four prayers that you have time to pray
he take care of that sick person, give them their meal. And you can
pray there is no sin upon you.
There is that outside Nursey do you recommend that yeah, oh,
totally, totally recommend that
is finance a good fields. I mean, it's a good knowledge. But in
general, but
you'd have to find a job. That's that's lawful. And there is now by
the way, stern salon bank for businesses that want to take
loans. And they basically pin the loan, they structure the loan on
something that you already own, whether it's their incoming
receipts, the invoices, or the property or equipment, and then
they will buy that from you. So you get the cash right away and
flush. And then you buy it back from them over time. And that's
how they profit. So it's pinned, it's their home base is in
Minnesota, but they also have it here too. Right? I mean, the guy
who works from here, he's worked from home, essentially.
All right, let's see what else we got here. Someone's asking, are we
planning on going to Morocco? A group trip anytime soon?
It's not on the schedule, unfortunately. I mean, it's in our
mental schedule, like desire, sphere of desire, but not yet the
sphere of concern or immediate plan.
If you take an oath and you can't keep it how do you make up for it
either you feed 10 Poor Muslims one with the food or you clothe
them or you fast three days and you can do all that before you
actually break the oath you have the intent to break the oath but
you haven't broken it yet but you intend to break it so that you
could do those things beforehand.
Is Watching enemy discouraged and Medic effect it is a low and so
therefore a DSC it just a little bit of is it acceptable?
Are there any Hanafy streamers you all suggest?
Who's out there streaming in Hanafy?
Streams itself was like really strange. I don't know. Good
question. Videos. Yeah, this video when you say the people of Medina,
who do you mean the scholars? Yes. As Nephi says here, it's the
scholars of Medina of the first three generations.
Not after that, and not the common person
can you comment on Malik's approach towards PS we'll read
that we can read that section why not? Good so it's here but maybe
it's we're running late on time. So
yeah, we'll read that section on Madigan PS will read that.
Okay.
Let's close off with something that's pretty funny here.
Can one make firstly my rehabs question can one make the
intention to fast call dot while asking for the blessing of fasting
on Monday. If you fast Kedah on Monday, yes you get the blessing
of having fasted on the day the Prophet was born. It's like a
separate thing. You are making the intention of
fasting the foot and of course fasting
On Mondays is blessed in general because the prophesy Sam said I
was born on that day
we're gonna close off with something pretty funny here
now, we are a little bit tight for time so I probably can't do my
Islamic bit
well obviously, I'm not gonna be telling the same jokes about
Muhammad I feel very comfortable telling you about Jesus Christ and
that's because fun fact. I'm not a fucking idiot. Sorry about that. I
realized that. I didn't realize you had that here. On your
Saturday think about that's not fair. He made jokes about
Christians all day long, but he won't make the same sort of jokes
about Muslims. Well then maybe as a Christian, you should think
about blowing something up
no one's getting you
what are the Christians gonna do? Forgive me
How funny is that man?
That's what we said. You don't support it but there's some crazy
people do crazy stuff. All right, we got to stop here. We'll see you
all on Tuesday in sha Allah we will read tough see it we will
read more. Also on PS we will read stories of the odia Subotica
Lahoma. Behind the shadow. Isla illa Anta, Nurse Doctor according
to an ache what else in Santa Fe Atlas. l Alladhina. Amanu. aminu
saw the hot water was so bad hot water was so Sabra was said a
minute ago.
Job
got it