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The speakers discuss the history and impact of the "hoop projections around certain people and their behavior" and the "will" of Islam, emphasizing the importance of affordability and affordability in political systems, the "will" of Islam, and the "will" of Islam. They stress the need for political engagement and cooperation among political parties, as political parties want their political party to be a black majority. The "will" of Islam is discussed, and the "will" of Islam is highlighted as a "will" of Islam. The "will" of Islam is discussed, and the "will" of Islam is highlighted as a "will" of Islam. Viewers are encouraged to read pictures sent to them and respond with their comments.

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			In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent,
		
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			the Most Merciful.
		
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			In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent,
		
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			the Most Merciful.
		
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			Welcome everybody to the Safina Society Nothing But
		
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			Facts live stream on a really, really nice
		
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			day out.
		
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			It is September, what are we, September 3rd
		
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			now, it's a beautiful day and we're on
		
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			the verge of a number of really, really
		
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			nice and beautiful events.
		
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			First of all, this week at Safina Society,
		
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			at MBIC, we're going to have an orientation
		
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			day for all of our classes and HIVs
		
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			that's local to New Jersey.
		
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			So if you are a local, hop over
		
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			to the Masjid today, uh, Friday and listen
		
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			to that orientation and register for your classes.
		
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			We have literally dozens upon dozens upon dozens
		
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			of different families and people, they register for
		
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			classes.
		
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			So be part of that and don't miss
		
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			out because we close registrations after a while.
		
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			Number two, September 13th and 14th, two Mawalid
		
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			in a row.
		
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			And that is at, and we're from the
		
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			people who hold that this is something that's
		
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			very good and wonderful, uh, to as long
		
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			as munkar are avoided in them.
		
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			And that is at MBIC, Friday night.
		
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			Next day at Maqasid.
		
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			This year, prophetic living from North Jersey, Sheikh
		
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			Yasser is not having, they're not having one
		
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			by itself.
		
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			Then week after that, it's actually two weeks.
		
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			No, one week after that, the Sunday, September
		
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			22nd, that we, that will be streamed.
		
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			You can't attend that anymore.
		
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			The, the seats are taken, uh, that's going
		
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			to be celebration of the life of the
		
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			prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, celebration of the
		
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			final prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.
		
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			And that's going to be a t-neck
		
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			Marriott.
		
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			It's going to be a big event, which
		
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			for the first time we're going to pass,
		
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			we're going to have 1500 people there, probably
		
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			more, I guess, 1500 officially.
		
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			And then everyone's going to have, the speakers
		
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			will have their families and, and the staff
		
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			and all that.
		
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			October 26th, Omar, fire it up.
		
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			We have our very first La Cosina Gala,
		
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			which will be streamed or you can, uh,
		
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			show up and get yourself a ticket.
		
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			Tickets are now available for the October 26th
		
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			La Cosina Gala.
		
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			It's a giving gala in which basically it's
		
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			our annual donation, a fundraiser.
		
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			We're going to be featuring a lot of
		
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			new art, um, pieces, really nice art pieces.
		
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			They showed me what they're, what they've collected
		
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			and we're going to be auctioning that art
		
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			away.
		
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			Our main speaker will be our Spanish Halakha,
		
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			uh, is given at the soup kitchen right
		
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			here.
		
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			We're on the third floor of the soup
		
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			kitchen on the first floor.
		
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			Every Sunday, sister Nahala Morales, she's a veteran
		
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			in Dawah.
		
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			She gives a Halakha in Spanish.
		
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			So we now have the Dawah coming and
		
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			we have Imam Tom Fekini.
		
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			He's going to be our keynote speaker and
		
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			he is a very, very smart person and
		
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			he knows best about, so you want to
		
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			say, why would you get Imam Tom?
		
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			He's not Spanish.
		
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			It's not about that.
		
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			It's about native.
		
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			It's about Dawah.
		
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			He received Dawah.
		
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			He entered Islam.
		
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			So it's about that element of Dawah.
		
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			So we have sister Nahala and we have
		
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			Imam Tom.
		
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			Speaking of Imam Tom, he's been in the
		
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			news.
		
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			Omar, can you file that, fire that picture
		
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			up?
		
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			All right, fire it up because it was
		
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			a bunch of nonsense and I don't like
		
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			bullies and I love to go against the
		
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			grain with these types of things.
		
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			And when I saw our own New York
		
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			post, not our own, like we like it
		
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			or anything, it's trash, but you know, the
		
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			sports page is good.
		
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			But other than that, it's trash.
		
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			So he got on their radar and I
		
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			was like, good, put them on your radar.
		
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			Because firstly, there's nothing, you can't sue him
		
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			for anything he said here.
		
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			There's nothing there.
		
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			Not criminal nor civil.
		
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			But number two, put him on because get
		
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			him more attention.
		
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			We need to hear more from him.
		
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			And speaking of that, he is with us
		
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			on today's live stream.
		
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			So let's bring him on.
		
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			Imam Tom, welcome to the Safina Society, Nothing
		
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			But Facts live stream.
		
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			As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh, Sheikh
		
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			Shadi, it's great to be back with you.
		
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			Likewise, likewise.
		
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			And I remember it was about a year
		
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			ago today that somebody from our team said,
		
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			there's a young American guy, he wants to
		
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			talk to you on a live stream.
		
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			And I'm thinking it's one of these live
		
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			stream with 10 people.
		
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			But I said, yes, anyway, no problem.
		
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			And I forgot about it, totally forgot about
		
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			it.
		
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			And I came 30 minutes late.
		
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			Then he said, all right, let's pick it
		
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			up next week.
		
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			I go next week.
		
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			I didn't, I wasn't reminded again.
		
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			I was late again.
		
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			So I shortchanged Imam Tom two times, but
		
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			he's been more than forgiving about that.
		
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			Let's talk about this, this whole little fake
		
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			hoopla, really just a fake hoopla that happened
		
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			with Shahid Davidai.
		
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			Why don't you introduce who he is exactly?
		
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			And why?
		
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			Very good.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Excellent.
		
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			Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.
		
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			So Shahid Davidai is a professor at Columbia
		
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			University.
		
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			And he, I believe he is Israeli.
		
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			He has definitely strong ties to Israel, his
		
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			father has strong ties to Israel.
		
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			He teaches in the school of business.
		
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			I don't know what his classes are.
		
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			Maybe he teaches genocide cheerleading or something like
		
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			that.
		
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			But this guy has been for the last
		
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			10 months since October 7th, has been vitriolic
		
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			in his discourse, the words that he has
		
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			used, especially against his own students.
		
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			As you know, Columbia University is ground zero
		
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			for the encampment movement.
		
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			It's ground zero for pro-Palestinian advocacy.
		
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			Columbia University is neck deep in ties to
		
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			the defense industry and to Israel itself.
		
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			And so as far as a top target
		
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			for BDS and divestment, it is, you know,
		
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			one of the top targets, right?
		
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			It's one of the top sort of schools
		
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			that if it were to move the needle,
		
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			right, if any sort of victories were to
		
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			be gotten in that university, then it would
		
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			be really a huge, a huge deal.
		
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			And so Shahid Davidai has been accusing students
		
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			for 10 months straight of being terrorists, of
		
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			being terrorist supporters, of being Hamas supporters, and
		
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			has smeared them in every single type of
		
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			way to the point where he created an
		
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			environment in which his own students were attacked
		
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			by chemical weapons.
		
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			Chemical weapons?
		
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			Yeah, yeah.
		
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			Skunk, right?
		
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			Which is an actual chemical weapon for two
		
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			students who are also IDF soldiers, either former
		
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			or present, that masked up in an anonymous,
		
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			cowardly way, attacked the students who are protesting
		
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			in favor of Palestine on Columbia campus.
		
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			And he wants to hide his hands.
		
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			Like he wasn't responsible for creating that sort
		
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			of environment in the first place.
		
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			And then, so we had this event.
		
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			So I've been in touch with the students
		
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			of Columbia.
		
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			I've been in touch with the students of
		
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			City College in New York.
		
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			I'm in touch with many, many different universities
		
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			and colleges in New York City, especially when
		
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			it comes to this particular thing.
		
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			We had an event.
		
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			It was a Zoom event.
		
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			It was the week before I went on
		
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			vacation.
		
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			So when all this sort of hit, I
		
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			was in the middle of nowhere in the
		
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			wilderness, right?
		
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			We did an event where they were talking
		
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			about Islamic political action, Islamic political sort of
		
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			engagement, these sorts of things.
		
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			Now this event was not run by Columbia
		
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			students, okay?
		
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			It was run by someone from CCNY, it
		
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			was run by someone from Brooklyn College.
		
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			And I don't even know if any Columbia
		
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			students were in attendance.
		
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			Maybe they were, maybe they weren't.
		
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			But one of the people in attendance, I
		
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			guess, was a mole, and they recorded everything,
		
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			which is no problem.
		
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			We have the full recording.
		
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			I mean, the whole thing was recorded.
		
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			And they chopped it up and tried to
		
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			make it look like I was threatening Professor
		
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			Shah.
		
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			Now what I did say was I was
		
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			using him as an example, as somebody, if
		
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			that we want to fight fire with fire,
		
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			because we know that the Zionists have absolutely
		
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			no problem with doxing people.
		
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			They have absolutely no problem with intimidating people.
		
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			They have absolutely no problem with trying to
		
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			end people's careers.
		
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			That if we wanted to fight fire with
		
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			fire, then somebody like Shai Davidai would be
		
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			a perfect target.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Because he has been so, again, toxic and
		
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			vitriolic with his discourse.
		
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			He has contributed to very, very unsafe environments.
		
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			And the thing that bothers me, you know,
		
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			I've started smiling when you were sort of,
		
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			when I was up there and you were
		
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			still introducing it.
		
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			Because I'm like you, you're a Jersey guy,
		
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			I'm a Jersey guy.
		
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			We don't like bullies.
		
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			I don't like bullies.
		
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			I hate bullies.
		
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			And if you were to pick on a
		
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			man your own age, that would be forgivable.
		
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			It's equal.
		
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			That's equal.
		
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			It's a fair fight.
		
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			But we know that he has, I think
		
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			Shai Davidai has what I call IDF syndrome,
		
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			right?
		
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			The Israeli Diaper Force's syndrome.
		
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			And you know what the IDF syndrome is?
		
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			You can't fight a fair fight.
		
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			You're used to picking on kids and grandmas,
		
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			and you think that you're tough stuff.
		
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			And then when something really happens, then you
		
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			hide behind whatever, you play the victim, right?
		
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			And which he's a professional victim and, you
		
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			know, perennial snowflake, you know, where he tries
		
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			to make it seem like everybody's out to
		
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			get him.
		
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			And you know what I was thinking about
		
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			the Quran when Allah says, يَحْسَبُونَ كُلَّ صَيْحَتِينَ
		
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			عَلَيْهِمْ SubhanAllah.
		
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			Allahu Akbar.
		
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			Right?
		
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			They think everything is against them.
		
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			They think everything.
		
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			I wasn't, I just brought them up as
		
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			an example.
		
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			I wasn't even talking to Columbia students.
		
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			And all of a sudden he, and I'm
		
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			sure he's got these connections with the media
		
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			and stuff like that.
		
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			And all of a sudden, it's a big
		
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			thing.
		
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			When he intimidates people, no, nothing.
		
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			When he tries to bully people, nothing.
		
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			When he's creating a dangerous environment for the
		
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			students at his own institution.
		
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			But when somebody brings up an example of
		
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			students trying to fight back, students trying to
		
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			not get expelled, students trying to not get
		
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			attacked on their own campus or not get
		
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			potentially criminalized as some sort of, you know,
		
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			foreign agent or tied to some sort of
		
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			foreign organization, which they're not.
		
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			Then all of a sudden, then all of
		
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			a sudden you try to push back against
		
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			that, it's a problem.
		
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			But you and I know what happens to
		
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			bullies.
		
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			That's why they back off.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			A time comes without fail where the bully
		
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			picks on the wrong person and the bully
		
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			gets punched in the mouth.
		
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			And then the bully has to learn his
		
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			lesson the hard way and the house of
		
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			cards falls down.
		
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			So I mean, we wish we wouldn't have
		
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			to get involved in these things, right?
		
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			I have better things to do with my
		
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			time.
		
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			But when I see bullies and I don't
		
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			like bullies, then something needs to be done.
		
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			And he has no business teaching college kids.
		
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			He has absolutely no business being an institution.
		
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			He's a stain on the reputation of that
		
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			university, a university that I visit often.
		
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			And I've done speaking engagements before.
		
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			And if necessary, I'll come this semester and
		
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			I've been talking with some of the Columbia
		
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			students as well.
		
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			If necessary, I'll come again this semester.
		
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			I didn't plan on it.
		
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			I have my my my schedule is booked
		
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			all the way to January.
		
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			But if the opportunity arises, I would be
		
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			happy coming in person.
		
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			And maybe I'll make sure that Professor Shy
		
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			gets a personal invitation.
		
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			How does he actually do what he's doing?
		
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			Is he you talking about his rhetoric on
		
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			social media?
		
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			Is he speaking right out in the middle
		
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			of the campus or what?
		
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			I mean, he has done both and I
		
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			don't follow this thing like, you know, I'm
		
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			not following him or going through his stuff
		
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			with a fine tooth comb, like I said,
		
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			I've got better things to do than that.
		
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			You know, I live my life.
		
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			But when the time when I was on
		
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			social media, yes, it was very, very vitriolic
		
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			on social media.
		
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			And there were clips of him doing similar
		
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			sort of antics on campus in person.
		
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			I remember that there was one sort of
		
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			scene where he was denied clearance.
		
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			Even the university implicitly recognized by that, that
		
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			he was a toxic character.
		
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			That was that was escalating.
		
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			But they're they're too chicken to do anything
		
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			about him until the students organize or the
		
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			faculty organizes.
		
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			But even they implicitly recognize that this person
		
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			is toxic.
		
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			He escalates.
		
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			He does all these sorts of things to
		
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			contribute to an environment that let's just say
		
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			at the bare minimum is not conducive to
		
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			learning when students have to worry about their
		
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			own safety in the same places where they
		
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			go and study, which is ridiculous.
		
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			We would think that this is the United
		
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			States of America.
		
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			You would think that that this wouldn't have
		
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			to be a thing.
		
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			But unfortunately, Israelis don't care about the United
		
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			States of America.
		
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			Zionists don't care about the United States of
		
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			America.
		
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			They want to turn it into a police
		
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			state to arrest and intimidate anybody who criticizes
		
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			Israel.
		
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			Well, you realize when Netanyahu came over, Washington
		
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			turned into the West Bank like I did.
		
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			You did.
		
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			I don't know if you went there, but
		
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			no, I was in Texas at the time.
		
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			It was literally like from from my friends
		
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			who went like barricades, regular citizens couldn't walk
		
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			down public streets, right?
		
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			Streets were closed off and it was far
		
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			more security than the actual president of the
		
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			of the country.
		
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			So when Netanyahu came over, it started to
		
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			look like a police state, right?
		
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			Because that's what I'm doing with you.
		
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			That reminds me of our time in Medina,
		
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			you know, we were in Medina when the
		
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			king would come to town.
		
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			The king would like have a palace in
		
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			Medina or whatever and he'd have a palace
		
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			other place.
		
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			He wouldn't really visit Medina much because it's
		
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			not, you know, one of the main like
		
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			hubs or whatever.
		
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			But he'd come once a year.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			And when he would come, barricades on the
		
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			roads, you wouldn't even be able to be
		
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			on the same road for hours that the
		
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			king was going to come down crazy.
		
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			And we laugh, you know, people, American people
		
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			are waking up, you know, we say that
		
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			this is a democracy, right?
		
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			We say that this is, you know, somehow
		
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			different than the absolute monarchies in the Middle
		
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			East or somewhere else.
		
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			But if a neutral observer was to look
		
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			at that behavior, this behavior, they'd say the
		
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			same thing.
		
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			It's the same exact thing.
		
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			We were talking the other day with my
		
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			friends on when cowards rule.
		
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			When a person who's a coward, who cannot
		
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			face you directly and deal with the situation,
		
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			when that person's on top, they make for
		
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			the worst organizational culture.
		
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			They are the worst.
		
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			And you know, there is one of the
		
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			sayings that there are certain three of whom
		
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			Allah hates.
		
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			A sheikh is zany, the old man who
		
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			fornicates because you're too weak anyway.
		
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			So you're still doing it and you're about
		
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			to die.
		
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			Why shouldn't you repent?
		
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			And you're too weak.
		
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			Secondly, what was it?
		
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			It was the one of them is al
		
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			-malik al-kaddab, a king who lies, right?
		
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			You're king.
		
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			You control the army.
		
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			Why do you need to lie?
		
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			Like who are you afraid of?
		
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			You've got absolutely no reason.
		
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			You've got every tool at your disposal.
		
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			Why would you have to lie?
		
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			Exactly.
		
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			So when a coward rules, he doesn't fight
		
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			you in the same way that a regular
		
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			conqueror fights you.
		
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			The old conqueror look you straight in the
		
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			eye and tell you we're coming and we're
		
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			going to kill you all.
		
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			Even he's the worst one, right?
		
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			Like the king is conqueror, we'll finish you
		
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			off.
		
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			Here when looking at Israel, you're looking at,
		
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			they cannot sit and say man to man,
		
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			bring Hamas out to this area right here
		
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			and let's finish this one time and that's
		
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			it.
		
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			Because they lose.
		
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			They lose.
		
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			There's no courage.
		
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			So instead, let's pick off, pick people off.
		
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			Let's pick off when you're clearly a greater
		
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			power.
		
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			The whole world is behind you, right?
		
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			And then let's go after, and then the
		
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			anger of the coward, the anger is inside
		
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			so now let's kick pregnant women, kids.
		
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			It's a nasty, nasty, despicable war.
		
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			This is not the Russians versus the Americans
		
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			where it's just two, you know, Goliaths going
		
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			at it.
		
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			And that's a big difference between when a
		
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			coward takes over and that's what we're seeing
		
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			here.
		
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			We're seeing a people who do everything, but
		
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			if you do one thing back, right, they
		
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			go cry and put the tail between their
		
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			legs.
		
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			But now you're speaking about this, I totally
		
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			agree, none of these people should be given
		
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			any ease in their public forums when they
		
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			say these words.
		
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			That means, oh, you're going to say stuff
		
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			like this, all right, we're going to take
		
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			all your public statements and all your public
		
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			life and we're going to dissect it in
		
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			a way that will make you so uncomfortable
		
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			that maybe you back off.
		
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			That's the strategy, right?
		
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			Tell us about the strategy so far and
		
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			is it working with anyone?
		
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			Well, I mean, that's the thing and that's
		
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			basically what we were just initially discussing right
		
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			with the students and it's up to them,
		
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			you know, they know best their situation, what
		
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			level of risk they're comfortable with and what
		
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			sort of their opportunities are.
		
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			But certainly, I mean, what I was specifically
		
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			recommending to them is that even professors, they
		
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			have reviews, right, their contracts are up for
		
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			a certain amount of years or things like
		
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			that.
		
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			Listen, when Fatima Mohammed of Within Our Lifetime
		
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			passed the bar with flying colors, you had
		
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			all these Zionists calling into the Bar Association
		
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			in New York trying to prevent her from
		
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			getting through the final hurdle, absolutely no justification,
		
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			trying every sort of dirty tactic and smear
		
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			tactic in the book, that's right, this is
		
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			like a 10th of that or a 20th
		
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			of that because Fatima Mohammed never called for
		
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			the slaughter of babies, Fatima Mohammed never justified
		
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			genocide, right?
		
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			It's like these people, again, they are genocide
		
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			cheerleaders and if you are a genocide cheerleader
		
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			and if you contribute to a potentially dangerous
		
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			climate for students that you're supposed to protect,
		
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			every teacher has a duty to protect their
		
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			students, for the doubter who might say, oh,
		
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			you guys would do the same thing on
		
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			the shoes of the other, no, no, no,
		
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			we don't do that.
		
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			We have principles in Islam, we protect that
		
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			there's innocent people and there's students, you have
		
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			a climate of like academic freedom and you're
		
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			in a classroom and you go to tow
		
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			with words and ideas and discourse and things
		
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			like that, you don't create a situation where
		
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			someone might get shot, you don't create a
		
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			situation where somebody might actually have physical violence
		
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			done to you, that is beyond the pale
		
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			and so the thing is, if that's going
		
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			to be you, if you're one of those
		
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			people who you don't deserve to call yourself
		
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			an educator and you certainly don't deserve to
		
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			call yourself a man, if you're going to
		
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			create this type of scenario, then there should
		
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			be consequences, you should not have a teaching
		
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			position, you do not deserve to teach at
		
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			Columbia University or anywhere else and so then
		
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			the question is how to reverse engineer that,
		
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			what are the levers that you have to
		
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			push, what are the pressure points, if the
		
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			person's up for review every three years depending
		
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			on what type of professor they are, what's
		
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			the review board like, how do you get
		
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			in a word to the review board and
		
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			that's again, a person by person sort of
		
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			determination and that's up to the students to
		
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			pursue if they wish but this is perfectly
		
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			legitimate, I see this as perfectly legitimate and
		
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			if someone like Shahid David thinks that that's
		
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			a threat, then you interpret it the way
		
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			you want, I say that consequence is no
		
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			coincidence.
		
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			The hoopla, all hoopla around these people is
		
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			good because at some point the guy who's
		
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			renewing their contract is going to be like,
		
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			do we want this attention on us?
		
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			Is it worth it?
		
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			At the end of the day for Columbia
		
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			University, is it worth it and that's why
		
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			them denying him sort of his clearance during
		
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			that brief period to me was very revealing
		
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			that they know that he's a liability, he's
		
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			a liability, you don't want someone like that
		
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			as part of your institution who's going to
		
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			be such a loud mouth and just poor
		
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			morals.
		
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			I can't imagine, I mean I'm an educator
		
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			as well, I teach middle schoolers, I teach
		
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			high schoolers every other year, I can't imagine
		
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			a situation in which I would create an
		
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			unsafe environment where one of my students will
		
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			be harmed.
		
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			I just can't even, that's just like not
		
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			even, it's a surreal thing to try to
		
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			imagine but that shows you like you said,
		
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			when cowards rule, the thing that came to
		
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			mind when you were talking about that is
		
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			that cowards are filled with spite and hatred
		
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			because deep down they know that they're cowards,
		
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			deep down that they know that they don't
		
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			have anything of true moral value that they're
		
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			fighting for and so they have to compensate
		
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			in some sort of way.
		
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			You know the psychology of the coward is
		
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			that he holds things in, that's number one
		
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			and he's afraid to get it out and
		
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			the problem with the coward is that if
		
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			you want something to change, when you're a
		
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			coward you either have a fork in the
		
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			road, you either say okay I'm weak and
		
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			I accept it or I'm weak but I
		
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			want things to change and I don't have
		
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			the courage to say something so that latter
		
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			one is the dangerous one.
		
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			If you're weak and you say oh fine
		
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			guys I'm resigning from the world, I live
		
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			on the side, I work nine to five
		
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			and go home and that's it, you're consistent
		
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			within your outward and your inward are consistent.
		
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			This other one wants change but is actually
		
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			afraid to affect the change himself.
		
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			The coward has to always use other people
		
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			to do it for him.
		
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			Absolutely, which is that defines the relationship of
		
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			Israel to the United States because they're trying
		
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			to weaponize anti-semitism which is like you
		
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			know someone said I think today on Twitter
		
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			is like that's like the KKK calling someone
		
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			racist for a Zionist to call somebody anti
		
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			-semitic.
		
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			They're going to use hate speech, they're going
		
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			to use whatever, it's like a bar fight,
		
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			whatever broken glass or bottle or chair leg
		
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			or whatever they can grab onto.
		
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			Like I said, this relationship is so problematic
		
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			for America as an idea and I think
		
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			people are starting to wake up for it.
		
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			They don't care about freedom protected rights, they
		
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			don't care about like any of this stuff,
		
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			they will throw all of it away, the
		
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			Zionists will, they will throw all of it
		
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			away just to punish people who criticize Israel.
		
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			So American people have to make a choice.
		
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			Recently the guild of educators or whatever right
		
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			word is for it, have recently stated what
		
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			is it a union, teacher's union, the teacher's
		
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			union has recently stated that they object to
		
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			America sending billions and billions over when their
		
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			own education systems are in shambles, teachers are
		
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			underpaid, schools look miserable across the country and
		
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			like hold on a second, now here we
		
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			come to another angle.
		
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			There is a moral angle, the moral angle
		
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			will get a bunch of us.
		
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			There is a humanitarian angle, will get a
		
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			lot of soft-hearted people and you see
		
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			these babies and these kids.
		
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			But the financial element will get a whole
		
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			another group of people who you never thought
		
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			would get involved and they're not coming and
		
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			saying we support Palestine, they're saying why is
		
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			billions of dollars, why are billions of dollars
		
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			going across the the world and especially they're
		
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			doing all this stuff with it, we get
		
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			nothing back and our own infrastructure is now
		
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			starting to collapse.
		
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			This is a huge player in this whole
		
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			effort.
		
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			It's the worst ROI on any investment you
		
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			could ever make and like people are starting
		
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			to wake up to it, I mean it's
		
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			pretty amazing to see and many people thought
		
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			we'd never even get this far but just
		
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			to ask yourself, it's worse than that, it's
		
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			worse than not getting anything returned because you're
		
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			basically providing political cover, you're putting your reputation
		
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			on the line, you're sending all your money
		
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			which is opportunity cost like you're saying, it's
		
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			like every dollar is not spent here at
		
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			home.
		
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			So now people are now getting more dissatisfied
		
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			but you're also funding such a belligerent and
		
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			cowardly and spiteful force that the entire world
		
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			wishes would just shut up and sit down,
		
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			that you completely ruin your reputation internationally, you're
		
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			a joke on the foreign stage, you've shown
		
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			that you can't even control and reel them
		
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			in.
		
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			So now like Biden, everybody's done this and
		
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			done this and Netanyahu and the rest of
		
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			them have shown that they don't care anything
		
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			about any red line that the United States
		
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			suggests or Blinken or anything at all, to
		
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			even say, that's not to say all of
		
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			them are sort of innocent, they have their
		
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			own problems as well but any restriction that
		
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			the United States ever tries to apply at
		
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			all, Israel basically sticks up the middle finger
		
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			in our face.
		
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			You tell me and then and then and
		
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			then everybody in the Middle East and the
		
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			Muslim world comes to resent the United States,
		
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			how does that protect America?
		
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			How does that make Americans more safe?
		
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			It's absolute insanity.
		
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			But people are starting to figure it out
		
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			with the democratization of media and different voices
		
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			coming through.
		
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			Outfits like the Israeli Post, I mean the
		
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			New York Post, are only boomers reading.
		
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			People our age or younger don't read these
		
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			things anymore and so they're starting to wake
		
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			up to a new reality.
		
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			It's like wow, they really pulled the wool
		
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			over our eyes for quite a while but
		
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			the true nature of what's going on is
		
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			very different.
		
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			When you look at something where the ROI
		
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			is not only zero, it's really negative, then
		
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			you have to ask the question, well what
		
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			is the motivation of this action?
		
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			And you gotta say, like it's not emotional.
		
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			If it was two people, you could say
		
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			one emotionally controlled the other.
		
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			If it's two guys, you gotta say, he
		
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			has something on the other guy.
		
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			There's no other analysis to this, right?
		
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			This is not Reddit conspiracy theory, just common
		
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			sense.
		
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			Why are you self-harming yourself?
		
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			You don't even believe in this.
		
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			If you believe it, why don't you believe
		
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			it for yourself?
		
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			Like the America first is completely dead, right?
		
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			Because they put Israel first.
		
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			You're harming yourself, so what is the motivation?
		
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			And that's where a lot of people are
		
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			going to start saying, you know, them tentacles
		
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			have gotten everywhere and it must be these
		
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			people, there's something major they're going to lose
		
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			if they speak out against this.
		
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			Definitely.
		
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			Well, you saw what happened to Bob Menendez
		
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			and I thought that this case was really,
		
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			really interesting.
		
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			You know, New Jersey Senator.
		
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			I mean, he was arrested and convicted on
		
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			how many counts of being a foreign agent,
		
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			accepting only five and stuff like that.
		
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			But what really, really was interesting about this
		
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			case is that if you look at his
		
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			comments after he gets convicted, he couldn't believe
		
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			that he got convicted, even though he was
		
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			so flagrant.
		
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			I mean, he had like, he had money
		
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			sewn into his suit pockets and he had
		
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			like gold bars laying around this house.
		
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			Like this guy, like never thought in a
		
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			million years he was going to get caught.
		
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			Old school bribery, by the way.
		
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			Old school bribery.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			People who don't know, Bob Menendez was a
		
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			Senator for New Jersey.
		
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			I met him one time, he's an arrogant
		
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			prick.
		
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			He was one of those terrible guys, right?
		
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			And him and his wife got involved with
		
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			some Egyptians.
		
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			Christian Egyptians.
		
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			And these guys, yeah, they're Coptic Egyptians.
		
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			I don't know if that was relevant to
		
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			the thing, but they happen to be Coptic
		
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			Egyptians.
		
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			They literally bribed the dude with suitcases of
		
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			bars of gold, like we're in the time
		
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			of Al Capone or something.
		
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			And this guy had them hidden all over
		
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			the place.
		
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			And even inside of his suit, he had
		
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			it sewn and money put in there, sewn
		
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			back together like an old school bribery.
		
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			So that's the background.
		
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			So continue.
		
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			What's crazy is what he said, his comments
		
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			after he got convicted, he was like, he
		
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			said something to the effect of, if this
		
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			is how it's going to be, then all
		
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			the Senators are compromised.
		
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			Just like that.
		
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			I was like, whoa, he said the quiet
		
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			part out loud.
		
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			He basically said this is what everybody does.
		
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			And I guarantee you that the rest of
		
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			them aren't going around with Egyptian Guineas.
		
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			They're going around with shekels and they're going
		
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			around with other sorts of things.
		
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			We know that Israel does this.
		
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			Israel brags about doing it.
		
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			I know I can hear the Zionists now
		
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			saying, oh my God, anti-Semitic, it's an
		
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			anti-Semitic trope to say that, you know,
		
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			do the Jews control the world or their
		
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			financially?
		
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			Listen, Israelis brag about it.
		
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			Netanyahu brags about it.
		
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			This is public information.
		
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			It's not about being Jewish.
		
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			I've had good relationships with Jewish people throughout
		
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			my life.
		
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			Like I've got absolutely nothing against the Jewish
		
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			people, but Israelis and the Israeli government, they
		
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			have publicly stated that they are doing this.
		
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			Only an idiot would think that they're not.
		
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			And if they're saying they're bragging about this
		
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			much, how much is off camera that they're
		
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			doing?
		
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			And the logic says that who's the most
		
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			powerful person in the room is the one
		
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			you can't talk about, right?
		
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			If you could talk about them, they're probably
		
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			not that powerful, right?
		
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			The fact that I was thinking it was
		
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			Suharto, which one of the presidents of Indonesia
		
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			made one of these statements about them running
		
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			the economics of the world.
		
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			And then he was censured on all the
		
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			media outlets.
		
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			And then I think it's CNN.
		
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			He responded back and he said, well, you
		
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			guys are all proven the point, right?
		
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			Because if I utter a word and now
		
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			I'm getting harangued and censured by every single
		
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			media outlet for saying that, you've done nothing
		
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			except strengthen my point, make my point, right?
		
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			So school's back up.
		
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			Today was the first day of school here,
		
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			I believe.
		
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			Why don't we talk about the campus encampments
		
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			that it seems like it was yesterday that
		
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			they were going on, then school ended.
		
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			Most of the encampments, maybe who knows, just
		
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			got some kind of token deal that they
		
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			had to accept.
		
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			But what is the status with the encampments
		
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			and the protests on university campuses?
		
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			Are they...
		
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			A lot remains to be seen.
		
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			There's definitely the sense of gearing up for
		
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			a showdown on all sides.
		
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			You see that the Zionists have attempted to
		
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			maneuver throughout the summer to try to get
		
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			colleges and universities to have more robust and
		
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			meaty anti-Semitism protocols, which by that they
		
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			mean you can't criticize Zionism, you can't criticize
		
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			Israel.
		
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			So that's their chess piece, that they've tried
		
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			to maneuver in that particular way.
		
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			Any sort of holes that existed within college
		
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			administration bylaws or student handbook or things like
		
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			that, they've tried to plug those holes to
		
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			make it easier to prosecute, to expel, to
		
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			break up encampments, to break up protests.
		
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			It remains to be seen, I was just
		
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			reading just before I came online, that Columbia
		
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			University, nonetheless, students were picketing their first day
		
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			in class today.
		
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			And that was one of the things that
		
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			I've been talking to students all summer about,
		
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			trying to strategize, because encampment is a tactic.
		
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			Occupying space is a tactic.
		
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			Protesting is a tactic.
		
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			But there's many, many tactics.
		
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			And the real question is, in the realm
		
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			of politics, you either need to be able
		
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			to withhold something that somebody needs, or you
		
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			have to provide a credible threat to something
		
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			that somebody needs.
		
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			That's how politics works when it comes to
		
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			electoral politics or advocacy, lobbying.
		
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			Otherwise, it's not about being liked.
		
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			It's not about cooking brownies, baking brownies, handing
		
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			out brownies, and couscous.
		
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			It is about power responding to power.
		
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			And if universities even think that students don't
		
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			have any power, well, they're going to trample
		
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			all over them.
		
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			They're going to call in the cops again,
		
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			and YPD will come in with the guns
		
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			drawn, as they did in May, and they'll
		
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			sweep the encampments.
		
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			Which, by the way, it seems like most
		
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			of the encampments got swept by police and
		
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			busted up.
		
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			Some of them took heels and stuff like
		
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			that, but many of them were just sort
		
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			of absolutely obliterated by the cops.
		
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			So the question is now about tactics.
		
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			What do universities need more than anything?
		
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			In the neoliberal economy in which we live,
		
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			universities have become for-profit machines.
		
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			Universities are not about education anymore.
		
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			They are about bottom line.
		
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			They are about their dollars, their profit margins.
		
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			That's why university presidents get paid such obscene
		
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			amounts.
		
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			That's why they've cut costs over the years
		
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			when it comes to various services that universities
		
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			used to provide.
		
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			It's all about increasing the margins.
		
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			So that is something that is at one
		
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			time a strength, and it's at the same
		
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			time a weakness.
		
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			How do you affect that?
		
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			How do you deliver a credible threat to
		
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			that or withhold something from that?
		
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			For example, this is what the Zionists did
		
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			on their side, where they had powerful donors
		
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			that organized and basically said, all right, if
		
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			you guys aren't going to crack down on
		
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			these protests and encampments, then we're going to
		
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			withhold our donations.
		
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			That's what it's going to look like.
		
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			How can we manage that?
		
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			Because to be frank, it's no secret the
		
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			Muslim alumni network is not very strong.
		
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			They're not organized.
		
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			They don't donate big bucks to these institutions
		
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			that they're dependent upon.
		
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			So how do you create leverage in a
		
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			different way?
		
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			Colleges need tuition more than anything.
		
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			I think if there was something like a
		
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			coordinated tuition strike, and they also need labor,
		
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			they also need a certain amount of classes
		
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			to go off to account it for the
		
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			year.
		
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			So if the faculty were able to be
		
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			organized to do a faculty strike so that
		
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			things don't happen.
		
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			Overall, colleges care the most about money and
		
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			reputation.
		
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			Looking at the USA Today publishes a list
		
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			of the top universities and colleges in the
		
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			country every year.
		
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			Universities are always trying to get a leg
		
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			up on one another because that's their competition.
		
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			How do you knock them down a couple
		
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			notches in these rankings due to what they've
		
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			done?
		
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			I know some groups that are starting up
		
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			some sort of things about, and Jewish life
		
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			has already done this, and Zionists have already
		
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			done this, where they say, oh, this campus
		
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			is safe for Jewish practice.
		
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			Where's ours?
		
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			We have people that are making it.
		
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			It's actually in the works right now so
		
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			that we're actually going to be able to
		
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			withhold Muslim students from even going to universities
		
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			that are hostile to Muslim students, which is
		
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			just plain sense.
		
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			So these are the types of things that
		
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			you have to look about.
		
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			Is there a possibility that the encampment is
		
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			still a youthful tactic?
		
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			Yes, it is, but it's a case-by
		
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			-case scenario.
		
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			Every group and every student body needs to
		
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			look at its particular situation and look at
		
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			what's the best way to create leverage that's
		
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			going to force the hand of the college
		
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			to respond to its demands, which are not
		
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			ludicrous demands.
		
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			They are very, very simple and sensible demands.
		
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			And is there a group of you guys
		
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			discussing this stuff offline?
		
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			I mean, all the time.
		
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			The Jewish groups, they got tons of institutionalized
		
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			support.
		
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			Forget the student bodies, the Chabad House, they
		
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			got the student groups, but they got APAC,
		
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			they got all these institutions that have been
		
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			around for 50 years.
		
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			Who's taking the lead on our side?
		
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			Yeah, the bad news is we're playing catch
		
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			up.
		
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			So you're 100% right that we're not
		
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			as institutionalized.
		
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			Everything is very, very ground floor.
		
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			The good news is, and I say this
		
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			often, that it was as if the last
		
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			10 months turned the lights on.
		
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			So much energy in the Muslim community.
		
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			I just had a 30-minute call this
		
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			morning before work.
		
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			Someone wanted to get my time, someone from
		
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			the DMV area down near Washington, DC, about
		
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			these types of efforts.
		
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			Big shots.
		
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			We're talking about corporate, we're talking about tech
		
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			guys, we're talking about people who build up
		
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			and sell off companies.
		
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			So we're starting to see a ton of
		
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			energy being put into the institutionalization of these
		
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			services, which is great.
		
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			Yes, it was a lack of capacity that
		
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			we should have had built before.
		
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			I think that post 9-11, people got
		
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			scared and people turned to relief work and
		
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			people were, this was the type of capacity,
		
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			let's put it this way, this is the
		
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			type of capacity we should have been building
		
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			since at least 2022, 2020, or excuse me,
		
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			2002, 2003.
		
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			It wasn't.
		
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			Okay, whatever.
		
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			Let bygones be bygones, but now it's on
		
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			everybody's minds.
		
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			People are organizing themselves slowly.
		
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			There's growing pains, but I think there's a
		
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			lot to look forward to in the community.
		
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			So part of what I do is, yes,
		
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			these offline side chat conversations where we're connecting
		
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			people, we're networking people, we're seeing who's going
		
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			to be influential in this particular sector or
		
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			this particular sector.
		
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			How can we maximize benefiting from each other
		
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			and how can we create this type of
		
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			leverage such that we can actually just hold
		
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			our own and stop being pushed around?
		
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			And one of the things I always like
		
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			to talk about is that the Muslim activism
		
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			in the country is not going to be
		
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			similar to the Jewish activism.
		
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			Jewish activism is at a type of higher
		
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			level and works downward.
		
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			That doesn't work with Muslims.
		
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			Muslims always operate and we alter the culture.
		
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			We get into the culture.
		
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			We're regular people, blue collar people, middle class
		
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			people, more so than trying to operate with
		
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			some few elites that go downward.
		
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			So Muslims should not be intimidated when they
		
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			see that, let's say, Yale has, I don't
		
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			know, three donors who donate 100 million a
		
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			year and they threatened to pull out if
		
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			Yale doesn't do this, that or whatever situation.
		
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			I think Muslims are more likely to be
		
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			a mass group of people who affect the
		
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			culture and become part of the culture more
		
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			so than this top town.
		
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			What do you think about that?
		
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			Yeah, no, I completely agree with that.
		
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			And that's important for Muslims to keep in
		
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			mind because sometimes you get in the mind
		
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			of, well, how do we replicate what they're
		
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			doing?
		
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			Well, you can assess what the other side
		
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			is doing and you can take what works
		
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			for you, but it's not a copy paste
		
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			game.
		
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			It's definitely a strength of the Muslim community
		
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			to be grassroots.
		
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			The Muslim community can only be grassroots.
		
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			And that I think is going to actually
		
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			be one of the major causes of our
		
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			victory in the end.
		
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			Because when it comes to Zionism, as you
		
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			said, it's a very top-down imposed sort
		
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			of ideology.
		
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			They're using every dirty trick in the book,
		
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			whether it's blackmail or whether it's intimidation or
		
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			bully tactics, that builds resentment in people.
		
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			People will go along with it for a
		
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			little bit, but the second you fall, everyone's
		
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			going to be cheering for your downfall.
		
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			And that's the difference between the Muslim capacity
		
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			that we're building.
		
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			We're not looking to cheat anybody.
		
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			We're not looking to silence anybody or muzzle
		
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			anybody.
		
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			We're not looking to...
		
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			All we want, and this is something from
		
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			the beginning of Islam, all we want is
		
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			a fair playing field.
		
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			Give us a fair playing field, we'll bet
		
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			on ourselves every single time.
		
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			You know why?
		
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			Because our product is real.
		
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			We have a real product.
		
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			It's not some sort of ethno-supremacism, some
		
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			sort of cult mentality like Zionism.
		
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			It's not like that.
		
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			We believe in contributing.
		
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			We believe in making beautiful culture.
		
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			We believe in uplifting everybody around us.
		
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			These are Islamic principles.
		
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			So in any place that Islam has spread,
		
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			it has improved it.
		
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			Whether it's Spain, whether it's Southeast Asia, whether
		
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			it's parts of China, wherever Islam has gone,
		
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			it has indigenized.
		
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			It has produced a vibrant local Islamic culture.
		
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			That vibrant local Islamic culture has enriched everybody,
		
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			whether it's the local Christians or other sorts
		
00:42:07 --> 00:42:07
			of groups or whatever.
		
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			That is what we bet on ourselves every
		
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			single time.
		
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			So I definitely am optimistic when it comes
		
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			to that.
		
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			And when you look at some people who
		
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			say, what are you so upset about?
		
00:42:18 --> 00:42:20
			They conquered you guys.
		
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			You also and your Sahaba and your companions
		
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			conquered other people, right?
		
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			So I loved the answer to this, that
		
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			not all conquest is the same.
		
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			This is an extremely important point in debating
		
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			these people.
		
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			And conquest, we do recognize, is part of
		
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			life.
		
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			If a company comes by that makes bagels
		
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			and another store makes bagels and has run
		
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			far better, give it five years, he's either
		
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			going to buy this guy out or just
		
00:42:50 --> 00:42:51
			take over his little shop, right?
		
00:42:52 --> 00:42:54
			J.D. Rockefeller did the same exact thing,
		
00:42:54 --> 00:42:55
			right?
		
00:42:55 --> 00:42:56
			He knocked on people's door.
		
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			He said, your oil refinery will last two
		
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			years.
		
00:43:01 --> 00:43:03
			I know your books and your prices and
		
00:43:03 --> 00:43:03
			what you charge.
		
00:43:03 --> 00:43:05
			I know my books and my prices and
		
00:43:05 --> 00:43:05
			what I charge.
		
00:43:06 --> 00:43:06
			You got two years.
		
00:43:06 --> 00:43:09
			So you either could join me now or
		
00:43:09 --> 00:43:10
			you're going to be out of business in
		
00:43:10 --> 00:43:11
			two years, right?
		
00:43:11 --> 00:43:14
			So expansion is good for humanity.
		
00:43:15 --> 00:43:18
			When someone's doing something great, they run a
		
00:43:18 --> 00:43:19
			country well.
		
00:43:20 --> 00:43:22
			Expansion, why did Allah put it in the
		
00:43:22 --> 00:43:22
			world?
		
00:43:22 --> 00:43:25
			It can be good for people, okay?
		
00:43:25 --> 00:43:28
			Now, expansion, when you look at it, you
		
00:43:28 --> 00:43:31
			have to ask yourself, in what way did
		
00:43:31 --> 00:43:32
			you expand?
		
00:43:34 --> 00:43:35
			How did you treat the citizens?
		
00:43:36 --> 00:43:38
			We're going to also add, why are you
		
00:43:38 --> 00:43:39
			expanding?
		
00:43:39 --> 00:43:40
			You know that if a Muslim country says,
		
00:43:40 --> 00:43:41
			you know what, that's a really good country
		
00:43:41 --> 00:43:45
			to conquer because it has some oil.
		
00:43:46 --> 00:43:47
			Let's go take that.
		
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			That's not jihad anymore, right?
		
00:43:49 --> 00:43:49
			That's not jihad.
		
00:43:50 --> 00:43:51
			So intention is one thing.
		
00:43:51 --> 00:43:53
			And I'll get back to intention because intention
		
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			should mean nothing to anybody because I don't
		
00:43:55 --> 00:43:55
			see it.
		
00:43:55 --> 00:43:56
			It's in your heart.
		
00:43:56 --> 00:43:58
			What is the objective measure to test your
		
00:43:58 --> 00:43:59
			intention?
		
00:43:59 --> 00:44:00
			That's going to reveal your intention.
		
00:44:01 --> 00:44:03
			So we're going to look at, what did
		
00:44:03 --> 00:44:04
			you do to the people's homes?
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:06
			Steal homes.
		
00:44:06 --> 00:44:08
			Where did the sahaba ever steal someone's house?
		
00:44:08 --> 00:44:08
			Right.
		
00:44:09 --> 00:44:12
			Number two, did they go and destroy the
		
00:44:12 --> 00:44:12
			nation itself?
		
00:44:12 --> 00:44:15
			Like the trees, the roadways, the buildings, so
		
00:44:15 --> 00:44:16
			the infrastructure.
		
00:44:17 --> 00:44:21
			Number three, did you repatriate these people in
		
00:44:21 --> 00:44:22
			some capacity, right?
		
00:44:23 --> 00:44:25
			Gaza and West Bank, what citizen are you?
		
00:44:25 --> 00:44:27
			What government has your back, right?
		
00:44:28 --> 00:44:28
			Nobody.
		
00:44:29 --> 00:44:30
			So that's number three.
		
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			Number four, and this is the beauty of
		
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			it, it's really what you said earlier about
		
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			the bully versus the genuine person.
		
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			Let's take a look at what happens after
		
00:44:42 --> 00:44:44
			the generation of the companions and their kids
		
00:44:44 --> 00:44:46
			and their grandkids and all their kids and
		
00:44:46 --> 00:44:48
			all the Arabs altogether don't rule anymore.
		
00:44:49 --> 00:44:53
			These countries are still Muslim, right?
		
00:44:53 --> 00:44:55
			If your intention was still vicious and you
		
00:44:55 --> 00:44:58
			produce such a vitriol in the heart and
		
00:44:58 --> 00:45:02
			hatred in the hearts of those people, the
		
00:45:02 --> 00:45:04
			grandfather to his son, to his grandson, they
		
00:45:04 --> 00:45:07
			talk at the kitchen table and they transmit
		
00:45:07 --> 00:45:10
			generation after generation sentiments, right?
		
00:45:10 --> 00:45:13
			Why are all these people after 150 years
		
00:45:13 --> 00:45:15
			or 200 years now 50% Muslim, then
		
00:45:15 --> 00:45:18
			eventually 100% Muslim and 90% Muslim?
		
00:45:19 --> 00:45:22
			Because the sahaba went into these lands and
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:23
			did well by them.
		
00:45:23 --> 00:45:25
			Yes, we're conquering, but we did well by
		
00:45:25 --> 00:45:26
			you, right?
		
00:45:26 --> 00:45:27
			We did good by you.
		
00:45:27 --> 00:45:29
			So their kids remain, you know?
		
00:45:29 --> 00:45:32
			So if I was to look at an
		
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			oil refinery in Ohio that was taken over
		
00:45:35 --> 00:45:38
			by J.D. Rockefeller and that oil refinery
		
00:45:38 --> 00:45:39
			100 years later is still run by the
		
00:45:39 --> 00:45:41
			same family, right?
		
00:45:41 --> 00:45:45
			Under the Rockefellers, then clearly the granddad was
		
00:45:45 --> 00:45:46
			good to our granddad.
		
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			That's why he didn't spread the hate.
		
00:45:49 --> 00:45:51
			And that's a really important difference for when
		
00:45:51 --> 00:45:56
			people say Israel's conquering like anybody else, right?
		
00:45:56 --> 00:45:58
			There's a big difference between conquests and conquests.
		
00:45:58 --> 00:45:59
			What do you have to add to that?
		
00:45:59 --> 00:46:00
			Yeah, 100%.
		
00:46:00 --> 00:46:06
			Well, that's why Allah said, that's the difference.
		
00:46:06 --> 00:46:06
			The proof's in the pudding.
		
00:46:07 --> 00:46:09
			Truth will last.
		
00:46:09 --> 00:46:12
			And falsehood falls really quickly.
		
00:46:12 --> 00:46:14
			Like evil, when it falls, just like the
		
00:46:14 --> 00:46:16
			bully, falls really quickly.
		
00:46:18 --> 00:46:21
			And the heavens and the earth won't cry
		
00:46:21 --> 00:46:22
			for you, right?
		
00:46:22 --> 00:46:26
			Because the whole creation was wishing for your
		
00:46:26 --> 00:46:26
			downfall.
		
00:46:27 --> 00:46:27
			SubhanAllah.
		
00:46:28 --> 00:46:28
			SubhanAllah.
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:29
			Right?
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:31
			Whereas the person who's just...
		
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			Yeah, exactly.
		
00:46:32 --> 00:46:34
			And if anybody, you know, any non-Muslims
		
00:46:34 --> 00:46:36
			watching want to check out Richard Bullitt is
		
00:46:36 --> 00:46:39
			one of the foremost scholars in this sphere
		
00:46:39 --> 00:46:41
			where he, you know, did all the archival
		
00:46:41 --> 00:46:42
			research.
		
00:46:42 --> 00:46:44
			You spell his last name, B-U-L
		
00:46:44 --> 00:46:47
			-L-I-E-T, I believe, where he
		
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			analyzes basically how did Islam spread.
		
00:46:50 --> 00:46:53
			And just as you said, it conquered areas,
		
00:46:53 --> 00:46:55
			but it didn't even integrate socially.
		
00:46:55 --> 00:46:58
			They really let people just be and continue
		
00:46:58 --> 00:47:00
			on in their cultures and the way that
		
00:47:00 --> 00:47:00
			they were.
		
00:47:00 --> 00:47:02
			And they collected taxes from them.
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:05
			You know, they built, we know the garrison
		
00:47:05 --> 00:47:07
			cities, such as, you know, Kufa and these
		
00:47:07 --> 00:47:11
			other sorts of cities, Baghdad, that didn't exist
		
00:47:11 --> 00:47:11
			before.
		
00:47:11 --> 00:47:12
			So the Muslims would come to a place
		
00:47:12 --> 00:47:15
			and literally build their own city for the
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:15
			Muslims.
		
00:47:16 --> 00:47:18
			And then they would like that was a
		
00:47:18 --> 00:47:20
			garrison city to protect the area, because now
		
00:47:20 --> 00:47:22
			they're responsible for protecting them.
		
00:47:22 --> 00:47:24
			Pretty much leave everybody alone to do what
		
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			they were already doing.
		
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			And Richard Bullitt proves that basically it took
		
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			two to 400 years for some of these
		
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			areas to even become majority Muslim.
		
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			That like, it was a very slow and
		
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			organic process.
		
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			This whole myth of Islam being spread by
		
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			the sword.
		
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			If you mean, if your political imaginary is
		
00:47:43 --> 00:47:45
			just the color on the map that changes
		
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			color and allegiance, right?
		
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			That this is, you know, okay, yeah, then
		
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			spread by the sword in some sense of
		
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			the word, yes.
		
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			But if you mean that Islam is coming
		
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			and forcing people to convert and like, you
		
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			know, raiding homes and splitting up families, absolutely
		
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			not.
		
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			This is this is the guilty conscience of
		
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			the Christian society and the Christian civilization, because
		
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			that's how Christianity spread.
		
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			Yeah, that's when Christianity when the papal bull
		
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			was released in what was it 1495 that
		
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			said every land and possession that's owned by
		
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			a Saracen, those are Muslims, and a barbarian
		
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			or a native, which is the indigenous people,
		
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			you can take it.
		
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			Hmm.
		
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			That's what the Catholic Church said to model
		
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			in the 1490s, you come across something that
		
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			is owned by a Muslim, you come across
		
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			something that's owned by a pagan, that was
		
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			the word they used pagan, you can take
		
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			it, they don't have any right to that
		
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			property.
		
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			That's the logic that justified the conquest of
		
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			the Americas and everything else.
		
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			Yeah, that's if that's your tradition.
		
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			That's what you're projecting on Islam.
		
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			That's not Islam.
		
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			It's not historical Islam.
		
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			That's not anything like this, right?
		
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			So that's the thing.
		
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			It's like, you said it, you said it,
		
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			there's nothing really else that needs to be
		
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			added is that conquest is one thing, right?
		
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			Colonialism is another thing.
		
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			Absolute annihilation of a people and their culture
		
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			and their way is a completely different thing.
		
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			And exactly what you said, you can tell
		
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			by the long term effects, you can tell
		
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			by the long term effects, that Islam enriched
		
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			every place that it touched.
		
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			And what do we see happening to, look
		
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			at Gaza right now.
		
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			What's going on there?
		
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			What's being enriched there?
		
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			It's just a process of annihilation and complete.
		
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			It's complete rubble.
		
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			Complete rubble.
		
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			It's just a, it's sick.
		
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			It's just absolutely sick.
		
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			Let's shift over for a second.
		
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			Last time we spoke, we talked about the
		
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			abandoned Biden campaign, right?
		
00:49:43 --> 00:49:45
			Well, now what is your take on with
		
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			Kamala Harris?
		
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			I know my cameras went down for a
		
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			second, but you guys can still hear my
		
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			voice.
		
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			No problem.
		
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			Now with Kamala, where did the, where does
		
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			the abandoned Biden campaign go now with Kamala
		
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			in?
		
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			This is the best thing that could happen
		
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			to us.
		
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			And I'll explain to you why, because first
		
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			of all, Muslims pat yourself on the back.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Because the abandoned Biden campaign played an enormous
		
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			role in Biden stepping down and don't let
		
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			anybody tell you differently.
		
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			They don't want to, they don't want to
		
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			admit it.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			The debate, him tanking the debate, it pushed
		
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			him over the edge.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			He was abandoned by his political allies, but
		
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			does that happen so quickly without a movement
		
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			like abandoned Biden?
		
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			I don't think it does.
		
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			So for all of the Muslims who held
		
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			rank, right, and who didn't break rank and
		
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			said, we're not going to vote for the
		
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			man who's responsible for the genocide of our
		
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			people, pat yourself on the back.
		
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			That was probably the major cause of Biden
		
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			stepping down.
		
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			Now the democratic party, and it's, you know,
		
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			some of these guys like Martin Lings, you
		
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			know, they talked about the idea of inversions,
		
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			right?
		
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			That the modern age is defined by or
		
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			characterized by inversions.
		
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			We call things that are actually their opposites.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			So Martin Ling says, for example, that we
		
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			call it humanism, but humanism is the most
		
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			anti-human ideology because it removes the most
		
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			beautiful part of humanity, which is a connection
		
00:51:13 --> 00:51:13
			with the divine.
		
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			And so he, you can say that the
		
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			democratic party is its own inversion.
		
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			They call themselves democratic and they are the
		
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			most animosity.
		
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			They have the most animosity towards democracy.
		
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			They don't care a hoot for democracy.
		
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			I am in WhatsApp groups with democratic delegates,
		
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			actual delegates for the democratic party.
		
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			They have done every single dirty trick in
		
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			the book to make sure that it was
		
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			not an open convention, that there was no
		
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			competition, that it went right to Harris.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Why is this good for us?
		
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			This is good for us because it makes
		
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			this election a referendum on Gaza and Palestine.
		
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			If it were still Biden, you had people,
		
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			and you can take, you can look at
		
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			people like Mehdi Hassan.
		
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			People like Mehdi Hassan, the genocide was not
		
00:52:02 --> 00:52:04
			enough to abandon Biden for Mehdi Hassan.
		
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			He only decided to abandon Biden and call
		
00:52:07 --> 00:52:10
			for his replacement after the debate because of
		
00:52:10 --> 00:52:12
			his mental acuity and he's sort of losing
		
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			it.
		
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			So what's Allah doing by giving us this
		
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			opportunity?
		
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			First of all, the election that's coming up
		
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			is going to be about Palestine and about
		
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			Gaza.
		
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			It's a referendum.
		
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			There's no other issues that are coming in.
		
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			We don't have to worry about, she's young,
		
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			she's like, you know, in her mental faculties,
		
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			etc.
		
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			Remove all of that noise on the side.
		
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			Focus on the main issue.
		
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			Two, it's going to show us the true
		
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			people who have not sold out Palestine from
		
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			the hypocrites and those who will sell out
		
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			Palestine.
		
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			There have been people since November and December,
		
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			I'm looking at you, M-Gage, I'm looking
		
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			at you, other groups that affiliate with M
		
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			-Gage, that were always from the beginning planning
		
00:52:54 --> 00:52:56
			on driving the Muslims back to the Democratic
		
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			Party come November.
		
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			They were planning it from the beginning, only
		
00:53:00 --> 00:53:03
			it would have looked bad to do it
		
00:53:03 --> 00:53:03
			earlier.
		
00:53:04 --> 00:53:05
			And so they were waiting on the fence
		
00:53:05 --> 00:53:07
			for the right moment to say, okay, you
		
00:53:07 --> 00:53:09
			guys had your fun, you guys did your
		
00:53:09 --> 00:53:11
			activism, you know, we achieved something.
		
00:53:11 --> 00:53:14
			Now really you have to vote blue, right?
		
00:53:14 --> 00:53:16
			Because their careers depend on it, because their
		
00:53:16 --> 00:53:18
			connections depend on it, because their own sort
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:20
			of, you know, these sorts of things depend
		
00:53:20 --> 00:53:21
			on it.
		
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			Now we get to see who's really made,
		
00:53:24 --> 00:53:25
			what you're really made of.
		
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			Are you going to stare this down?
		
00:53:27 --> 00:53:30
			And that's why the Abandoned Biden campaign relaunched
		
00:53:30 --> 00:53:32
			as the Abandoned Harris campaign, right?
		
00:53:32 --> 00:53:33
			That's their official name now.
		
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			They're not Abandoned Biden anymore, checkbox, complete victory.
		
00:53:37 --> 00:53:39
			Now it's Abandoned Harris, okay?
		
00:53:39 --> 00:53:41
			So now you've got two camps.
		
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			I'll give you two quick anecdotes, which demonstrate
		
00:53:43 --> 00:53:46
			good political thinking from bad political thinking.
		
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			Example one is the pop-up organization, the
		
00:53:50 --> 00:53:52
			Black Muslim Leadership Council that was sort of
		
00:53:52 --> 00:53:55
			organized mostly in Philadelphia, who, I kid you
		
00:53:55 --> 00:54:00
			not, they endorsed Harris before she even picked
		
00:54:00 --> 00:54:00
			a VP.
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:01
			Crazy.
		
00:54:02 --> 00:54:04
			It was like they were in a race.
		
00:54:04 --> 00:54:07
			It was like someone, like, I don't even
		
00:54:07 --> 00:54:10
			understand, like, in what universe does that make
		
00:54:10 --> 00:54:12
			any political, the only universe in which that
		
00:54:12 --> 00:54:14
			makes political sense is if someone promised you
		
00:54:14 --> 00:54:17
			something, you know what I mean, right?
		
00:54:17 --> 00:54:20
			So that's what not to do, because you've
		
00:54:20 --> 00:54:21
			lost all your leverage.
		
00:54:21 --> 00:54:24
			You don't have any ability to even influence
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:24
			the VP.
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:27
			You don't have any ability to influence the,
		
00:54:27 --> 00:54:30
			you know, the cabinet or the platform or
		
00:54:30 --> 00:54:31
			the campaign or anything.
		
00:54:31 --> 00:54:32
			You've lost all your leverage.
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:37
			Abandoned Biden turns into Abandoned Harris and says,
		
00:54:37 --> 00:54:38
			nope, we're holding on all of our leverage
		
00:54:38 --> 00:54:39
			right here.
		
00:54:39 --> 00:54:40
			We're quite happy with what we've got because
		
00:54:40 --> 00:54:43
			we're playing a game of chicken right now.
		
00:54:44 --> 00:54:45
			Who's going to blink first?
		
00:54:46 --> 00:54:48
			And the longer you hold on to your
		
00:54:48 --> 00:54:50
			leverage, the more panic the other side gets.
		
00:54:51 --> 00:54:53
			And then eventually they'll start giving you concessions.
		
00:54:54 --> 00:54:57
			There's no way that Harris picks Walz over
		
00:54:57 --> 00:55:00
			Shapiro without the Muslim influence.
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:02
			And that's not an exoneration of Walz.
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:04
			Walz is not good, okay?
		
00:55:04 --> 00:55:06
			But he is better than Shapiro, right?
		
00:55:08 --> 00:55:10
			Without the Muslims holding on to their leverage
		
00:55:10 --> 00:55:13
			and basically promising, delivering a credible threat that
		
00:55:13 --> 00:55:16
			we're not going to vote for her, there's
		
00:55:16 --> 00:55:18
			no way that she picks Walz over Shapiro.
		
00:55:18 --> 00:55:19
			Okay, she picks Walz.
		
00:55:19 --> 00:55:20
			Now we've got her on the run.
		
00:55:22 --> 00:55:23
			Now's the time some people are like, oh,
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:24
			well, how much do you want?
		
00:55:24 --> 00:55:25
			We want everything.
		
00:55:27 --> 00:55:29
			We want a refusal.
		
00:55:29 --> 00:55:31
			We want a declaration, an actual action that
		
00:55:31 --> 00:55:32
			you're not going to arm Israel.
		
00:55:33 --> 00:55:35
			You know, we want the whole kit and
		
00:55:35 --> 00:55:35
			caboodle.
		
00:55:35 --> 00:55:36
			We're not letting up now.
		
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			This is the worst time to abandon your
		
00:55:39 --> 00:55:39
			leverage.
		
00:55:39 --> 00:55:44
			There was one particular Muslim representative in Georgia,
		
00:55:45 --> 00:55:49
			who they denied her a speaking slot at
		
00:55:49 --> 00:55:50
			the DNC.
		
00:55:50 --> 00:55:51
			And this reminded me, so Panel, you know
		
00:55:51 --> 00:55:52
			what it reminded me of?
		
00:55:52 --> 00:55:56
			It reminded me of Linda Sarsour when she
		
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			was insulted by the Biden campaign and essentially
		
00:56:00 --> 00:56:02
			basically apologized for them.
		
00:56:03 --> 00:56:06
			Like what an undignified sort of thing.
		
00:56:07 --> 00:56:08
			What an undignified sort of thing.
		
00:56:08 --> 00:56:11
			And so we had a similar situation where
		
00:56:11 --> 00:56:14
			there was a Muslim representative in Georgia who
		
00:56:14 --> 00:56:17
			was denied the opportunity to speak at the
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:20
			Democratic National Convention in Chicago just a bit
		
00:56:20 --> 00:56:20
			ago.
		
00:56:21 --> 00:56:24
			And yet she's still saying, we have to
		
00:56:24 --> 00:56:25
			buck up and we have to vote for
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:25
			Harris.
		
00:56:26 --> 00:56:27
			What's the matter with you?
		
00:56:27 --> 00:56:28
			These people are weak.
		
00:56:28 --> 00:56:29
			Weak.
		
00:56:30 --> 00:56:31
			And yes, there's always a maslaha.
		
00:56:32 --> 00:56:32
			And you know, it was one of the
		
00:56:32 --> 00:56:34
			mashayikh, they told me, I love it.
		
00:56:34 --> 00:56:35
			It was such a concise statement.
		
00:56:36 --> 00:56:37
			There's always a maslaha.
		
00:56:37 --> 00:56:38
			That's so true.
		
00:56:38 --> 00:56:40
			And the shaytan will always give you a
		
00:56:40 --> 00:56:41
			maslaha.
		
00:56:41 --> 00:56:45
			But what is really happening here?
		
00:56:45 --> 00:56:48
			You have completely let go of all your
		
00:56:48 --> 00:56:48
			leverage.
		
00:56:48 --> 00:56:51
			You had to choose between sort of your,
		
00:56:51 --> 00:56:53
			either your party affiliation or who's funding you
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:55
			or who's funding your campaign or this or
		
00:56:55 --> 00:56:56
			that third and what was right.
		
00:56:57 --> 00:56:59
			Don't think that you're going to get anything
		
00:56:59 --> 00:57:01
			out of Harris by pushing people to vote
		
00:57:01 --> 00:57:01
			for her.
		
00:57:01 --> 00:57:04
			That's not how politics works at all.
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:05
			You know what's crazy?
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:07
			I started to think about, you know, this
		
00:57:07 --> 00:57:10
			one instance from the seerah, you know, Khatib
		
00:57:10 --> 00:57:12
			ibn Abi Balt'ah, right?
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:14
			And he's the companion and he's a veteran
		
00:57:14 --> 00:57:15
			of veterans.
		
00:57:15 --> 00:57:18
			His intentions are, you know, obviously impeccable and
		
00:57:18 --> 00:57:19
			unimpeachable.
		
00:57:20 --> 00:57:23
			But he does make a political error in
		
00:57:23 --> 00:57:23
			the seerah.
		
00:57:24 --> 00:57:27
			When they're marching to Mecca, Prophet Mecca, and
		
00:57:27 --> 00:57:29
			he tries to send the letter, right?
		
00:57:29 --> 00:57:31
			And this hadith is in Sunan Abu Dawood,
		
00:57:31 --> 00:57:33
			where he tries to send a letter ahead
		
00:57:33 --> 00:57:36
			to warn the Quraysh that the Muslims are
		
00:57:36 --> 00:57:37
			coming.
		
00:57:37 --> 00:57:38
			Now, why does he do it?
		
00:57:38 --> 00:57:40
			Now, I had sort of misremembered it.
		
00:57:40 --> 00:57:42
			So I looked back into Sunan Abu Dawood
		
00:57:42 --> 00:57:44
			for the actual maslaha hadith this summer.
		
00:57:44 --> 00:57:46
			And I was surprised that to find that
		
00:57:46 --> 00:57:48
			he didn't even send the letter to his
		
00:57:48 --> 00:57:51
			family, telling his family to like be careful.
		
00:57:52 --> 00:57:54
			He sent the letter to the Quraysh themselves,
		
00:57:55 --> 00:57:58
			basically telling them that the Muslims are coming,
		
00:57:59 --> 00:58:03
			hoping, with a sort of naive hope, let's
		
00:58:03 --> 00:58:07
			say, that doing so would earn him a
		
00:58:07 --> 00:58:08
			favor on the other side.
		
00:58:09 --> 00:58:09
			Right?
		
00:58:10 --> 00:58:12
			This is really fascinating.
		
00:58:12 --> 00:58:15
			Now, obviously, the Prophet ﷺ is given wahi,
		
00:58:15 --> 00:58:16
			is given revelation that this is happening.
		
00:58:17 --> 00:58:19
			He sends Ali al-Muqtad to go, you
		
00:58:19 --> 00:58:20
			know, chase down the servant who was hiding
		
00:58:20 --> 00:58:21
			the letter in her hair.
		
00:58:22 --> 00:58:23
			They confiscate the letter.
		
00:58:23 --> 00:58:24
			They look at it.
		
00:58:24 --> 00:58:25
			They confront him.
		
00:58:25 --> 00:58:26
			They say, what is this?
		
00:58:26 --> 00:58:28
			Umar ﷺ threatens to cut his head off.
		
00:58:28 --> 00:58:31
			The Prophet ﷺ accepts his repentance and says,
		
00:58:31 --> 00:58:33
			listen, he didn't intend anything bad by it.
		
00:58:33 --> 00:58:36
			But still, he was corrected by the Prophet
		
00:58:36 --> 00:58:37
			ﷺ.
		
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			It wasn't bad intention.
		
00:58:38 --> 00:58:39
			It was just bad politics.
		
00:58:40 --> 00:58:42
			It was just bad politics because you can't
		
00:58:42 --> 00:58:45
			do a favor for somebody and give up
		
00:58:45 --> 00:58:47
			all of your leverage and then just expect
		
00:58:47 --> 00:58:48
			a favor in return.
		
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			That's not how it happens.
		
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			So for all the Muslims that are going
		
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			to try to drive us back to blue
		
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			and drive us back to Harris and say,
		
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			yeah, but Trump is worse.
		
00:58:57 --> 00:58:58
			Yeah, but Trump is whatever.
		
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			It's like, even if he's worse, even if
		
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			he's worse, we die on our feet rather
		
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			than live on our knees.
		
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			Because once you tell, once you communicate to
		
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			the political establishment that you can even commit
		
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			a genocide against other people and we still
		
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			will vote for you.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			What's left?
		
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			Exactly.
		
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			What's left?
		
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			There's nothing left.
		
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			So this is, I firmly believe, you know,
		
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			like this is, this is a showdown.
		
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			This is a really a moment of political
		
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			maturity for the Muslim American community where we,
		
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			we've made mistakes.
		
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			We have to learn quick.
		
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			This is a golden opportunity.
		
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			The, this particular election, we absolutely have to
		
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			ensure that Harris loses.
		
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			I believe that a hundred percent and that
		
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			leaves the door open to whatever you want
		
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			to do.
		
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			I do personally at this point, I'm going
		
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			to say it and you're, this is exclusive
		
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			to you.
		
00:59:48 --> 00:59:51
			I haven't given this, uh, this recommendation publicly.
		
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			My personal recommendation is to vote Green Party.
		
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			That was not my recommendation even a month
		
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			ago, but seeing, seeing how everything is unfolding,
		
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			we need our, our, um, dissent to be
		
01:00:05 --> 01:00:07
			quantifiable.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:00:08 --> 01:00:11
			And that doesn't happen if you vote for
		
01:00:11 --> 01:00:11
			Trump.
		
01:00:11 --> 01:00:13
			It doesn't happen if you write in, it
		
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			doesn't happen if you stay home and vote
		
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			and don't vote.
		
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			Secondly.
		
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			So we want our, our sticking it to
		
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			the democratic party to be quantifiable.
		
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			The second thing is that the Green Party
		
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			realizes that they are very indebted to the
		
01:00:27 --> 01:00:29
			Muslims and Arabs in this election cycle.
		
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			And if they realize that they're indebted, what
		
01:00:32 --> 01:00:32
			does that mean?
		
01:00:32 --> 01:00:34
			That means that you have leverage.
		
01:00:34 --> 01:00:36
			When you have leverage, you get to dictate,
		
01:00:37 --> 01:00:39
			you get to say, listen, the Green Party
		
01:00:39 --> 01:00:41
			was willing to let us basically pick the
		
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			VP.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:00:43 --> 01:00:43
			First.
		
01:00:44 --> 01:00:44
			Yeah.
		
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			They need our votes more than anything.
		
01:00:47 --> 01:00:48
			They realize this is their one shot.
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:50
			That's why they've gone all in on, on
		
01:00:50 --> 01:00:50
			Palestine.
		
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			It does.
		
01:00:50 --> 01:00:52
			I don't trust Jill Stein, like for the
		
01:00:52 --> 01:00:55
			I don't trust her, but it almost doesn't
		
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			matter because when you've got somebody in a
		
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			position like this, they have to do what
		
01:01:00 --> 01:01:00
			you want anyway.
		
01:01:01 --> 01:01:04
			So we have an ability to shape the
		
01:01:04 --> 01:01:06
			campaign and to shape the shape, the platform.
		
01:01:07 --> 01:01:09
			And if we turn out major for Stein
		
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			and the Green Party in 2024, so that
		
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			they're over 5%, they get federal funding doors
		
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			open to them.
		
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			Yeah.
		
01:01:17 --> 01:01:18
			Now we're in a position where we say
		
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			2028, we want to pick your presidential candidate.
		
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			We, it's not going to be Stein anymore.
		
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			We want to run one of our own
		
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			people on your candidate.
		
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			And if not, we'll walk.
		
01:01:29 --> 01:01:30
			If not, we'll walk.
		
01:01:30 --> 01:01:32
			And then, you know, you know, we'll, we'll
		
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			part ways.
		
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			That's what political thinking looks like.
		
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			You build leverage, you exert leverage, you get
		
01:01:38 --> 01:01:39
			what you want, right?
		
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			None of this periodic diplomacy where, you know,
		
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			you just do nice things for people and
		
01:01:43 --> 01:01:44
			hope they don't kill you.
		
01:01:45 --> 01:01:47
			And another way I look at it is
		
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			that the right is a constant.
		
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			And they're a constant in that you have
		
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			no voice there.
		
01:01:53 --> 01:01:56
			They've basically told you that you're not even
		
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			going to come close to sitting with us.
		
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			The left, however, does have some dialogue with
		
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			Muslims.
		
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			So if you're going to use the leverage,
		
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			the only place to use it is the
		
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			left.
		
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			That's why simply merely supporting the left just
		
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			to avoid the right, that gets you nowhere.
		
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			Absolutely nowhere.
		
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			And I'll, I'll, I'll even see you that
		
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			and I'll raise you one more.
		
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			Muslims talk all the time about we want
		
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			a Muslim AIPAC.
		
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			If we really want a Muslim AIPAC, you
		
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			know what that would look like?
		
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			AIPAC and Israel in general, the Zionist project
		
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			has more support on the right or the
		
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			left?
		
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			Right.
		
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			Naturally on the right.
		
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			Their support on the right is not in
		
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			doubt yet.
		
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			It's starting to crack.
		
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			It's actually starting to crack, which is amazing.
		
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			But it's more automatic on the right.
		
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			On the left, it's not automatic at all.
		
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			So what does that, how does that influence
		
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			how they apply their money?
		
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			They're going to focus more on the left.
		
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			They focus on the left.
		
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			And they primary people.
		
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			So rather than let it go to a
		
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			general election, they're going to primary an anti
		
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			-Zionist Democrat with a Zionist Democrat.
		
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			So what would be the Muslim equivalent?
		
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			The Muslim equivalent would be primarying a Zionist
		
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			Republican, like a neocon Republican against an America
		
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			first or an isolationist Republican.
		
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			If we really want to talk that way,
		
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			that's what it would look like.
		
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			You know, many people are not ready for
		
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			that conversation because they, they believe that this
		
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			is like tribalism or like, this is like
		
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			gang life where you have to just pledge
		
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			your loyalty, bleed blue.
		
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			And if you're front in line, then they're
		
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			going to.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			They're treating it as if there's some kind
		
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			of piety involved.
		
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			Like I need to be good and I'm
		
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			going to be rewarded for goodness.
		
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			You're not rewarded for goodness here.
		
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			And we had this conversation way back.
		
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			Remember when I, when we talked about consistency.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Right.
		
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			Remember at one school of thought, we're not
		
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			going to name who was behind that school
		
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			of thought was basically saying that you had
		
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			to be consistent.
		
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			And the other school of thought is like,
		
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			this is the politics, Habibi.
		
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			And it's like, this is not, we're not
		
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			doing dawah.
		
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			If someone becomes a Muslim along the way,
		
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			alhamdulillah, but this is politics, right?
		
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			So if you play the game, you play
		
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			the game.
		
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			So that's what it would look like.
		
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			But as, but even that, and just, you
		
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			know, to, to further round out what you're
		
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			saying that the cracks on the right are
		
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			very interesting and should be developed that, you
		
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			know, these, we didn't have in 2016, right.
		
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			We didn't have a Tucker Carlson or a
		
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			Candace Owens.
		
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			We didn't have people questioning Israel on right
		
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			-wing sort of podcasts with all their warts.
		
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			I know people are going to want to
		
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			cancel me for saying, oh my God, he's
		
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			a, you know, he's a fascist or a
		
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			right.
		
01:04:39 --> 01:04:42
			Listen, you can have your, again, purity.
		
01:04:42 --> 01:04:43
			Like you said, you can have your ideological
		
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			purity, you and yourself alone in your closet.
		
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			But let's talk about, let's talk about actual
		
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			politics.
		
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			If you want to get things done, it
		
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			benefits Muslims to develop sensible relationships with people
		
01:04:55 --> 01:04:58
			on both sides who are amenable to our
		
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			interests and who share common goals.
		
01:04:59 --> 01:05:00
			That's how politics works.
		
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			So we're, I feel we're growing up.
		
01:05:04 --> 01:05:05
			I feel like we're, we're heading in the
		
01:05:05 --> 01:05:05
			right direction.
		
01:05:06 --> 01:05:08
			Uh, tell me a couple of questions more
		
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			before I let you go is, uh, you
		
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			mentioned the green party and they even, uh,
		
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			open the door for Muslims to suggest a
		
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			candidate is so tell me about that.
		
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			Is it the first time I hear that?
		
01:05:20 --> 01:05:20
			Yeah.
		
01:05:20 --> 01:05:23
			Well, there's some inside information I can't divulge
		
01:05:23 --> 01:05:24
			at this time that we'll have to have
		
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			a conversation after, after November.
		
01:05:26 --> 01:05:29
			But I was, let me say this, that
		
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			we had generated so much noise and so
		
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			much leverage and the green party recognizes the
		
01:05:34 --> 01:05:37
			opportunity in front of them, that the Muslim
		
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			community had a major say and major opportunity
		
01:05:43 --> 01:05:46
			and was given a major voice when it
		
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			came to picking the VP to the point
		
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			where if we had been ready for that,
		
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			it totally caught us off guard.
		
01:05:57 --> 01:06:00
			If we had been ready, we could have
		
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			run somebody, put someone on the ticket.
		
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			And this is no, this is no disrespect
		
01:06:04 --> 01:06:06
			to Dr. Ware, like, but, but, but we
		
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			could have perhaps picked someone who was more
		
01:06:10 --> 01:06:10
			of a household name.
		
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			Let's just say that.
		
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			Wow.
		
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			Right.
		
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			Somebody that could have very unambiguously united the
		
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			Muslim vote.
		
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			Wow.
		
01:06:19 --> 01:06:20
			Let's just say that.
		
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			Wow.
		
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			That would have been interesting.
		
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			That would have been very interesting.
		
01:06:23 --> 01:06:23
			Yeah.
		
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			That would have really exposed all of these
		
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			vote blue, no matter who Democrats, who would
		
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			be going up against people who have, you
		
01:06:31 --> 01:06:34
			know, their, their, their reputation is impeccable and
		
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			not questioned in the Muslim community.
		
01:06:36 --> 01:06:38
			Not again, no, no shots fired at Dr.
		
01:06:38 --> 01:06:39
			Ware, not that he had, but, but people,
		
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			people don't know him like that.
		
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			That's all I'm saying.
		
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			Like, like that this sort of younger group
		
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			and the more sort of leftists, you know,
		
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			activist circles, they know Dr. Ware, but your
		
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			traditional sort of uncles in the masjid don't
		
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			really, this is the first time they're hearing
		
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			of him.
		
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			That's all I'm saying.
		
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			And what, what would you do now with
		
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			the very progressiveness of the green party?
		
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			How would you sell that?
		
01:07:04 --> 01:07:06
			How would that person sell that to the
		
01:07:06 --> 01:07:06
			Muslims?
		
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			Well, this is one of the difficult things,
		
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			and this is why leverage, this is where
		
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			leverage becomes important, right?
		
01:07:11 --> 01:07:14
			So if the green party knows that they
		
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			sink or swim this election, depending on the
		
01:07:16 --> 01:07:19
			Muslim vote, we have to leverage that.
		
01:07:19 --> 01:07:21
			We don't look at it in a tribalistic
		
01:07:21 --> 01:07:23
			way, oh, the green party's our friends now,
		
01:07:23 --> 01:07:24
			and we just shut up and we're down
		
01:07:24 --> 01:07:24
			the road.
		
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			No, now's when we say, all right, this
		
01:07:27 --> 01:07:28
			is part of your platform.
		
01:07:28 --> 01:07:31
			Listen, Jill Stein said something really dumb about
		
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			the Muslim Brotherhood the other week, calling them
		
01:07:33 --> 01:07:35
			like, you know, jihadists or something crazy, like
		
01:07:35 --> 01:07:36
			right-wing talking points.
		
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			It's like, if you have that much leverage
		
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			with a party, now's when you say, you're
		
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			not going to talk about this, you're not
		
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			going to talk about that, and this is
		
01:07:45 --> 01:07:46
			not going to be your issue, or this
		
01:07:46 --> 01:07:48
			issue is not going to be part of
		
01:07:48 --> 01:07:48
			your platform issue.
		
01:07:49 --> 01:07:51
			That's politics, right?
		
01:07:51 --> 01:07:54
			It comes to, of course, we know that
		
01:07:54 --> 01:07:56
			when it comes to sexuality and gender, the
		
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			progressives do not align with the Muslim community,
		
01:07:59 --> 01:08:00
			nor should they, right?
		
01:08:01 --> 01:08:03
			But when you actually start to do politics
		
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			and you build leverage and use it, now
		
01:08:06 --> 01:08:08
			you can actually gain concessions and that sort
		
01:08:08 --> 01:08:08
			of thing.
		
01:08:08 --> 01:08:10
			It's like, we love you guys on your
		
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			foreign policy, we love you guys when it
		
01:08:12 --> 01:08:14
			comes to this and that and the third,
		
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			but we don't agree over here.
		
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			So you guys, if you want our support,
		
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			support is always conditional.
		
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			That's what people are saying in politics, support
		
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			always has to be conditional, everything has to
		
01:08:24 --> 01:08:24
			be a transaction.
		
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			It's not that one, it's the opposite.
		
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			Like, we are being transactional.
		
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			If you want our support, you have to
		
01:08:32 --> 01:08:34
			shelve this, you have to put this aside,
		
01:08:35 --> 01:08:37
			you have to de-emphasize this, and that
		
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			makes it palatable.
		
01:08:38 --> 01:08:40
			That was my concern two months ago.
		
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			I would have said, don't endorse anybody.
		
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			I would have not endorsed anybody.
		
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			And I would have said, even to the
		
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			Green Party, no, because of these things.
		
01:08:50 --> 01:08:53
			Now, because of how everything has moved, I
		
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			see that the Muslims have enough leverage within
		
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			the Green Party to actually dictate somewhat, at
		
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			least, what those things are going to be.
		
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			And so that's why I'm actually advocating for
		
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			Muslims to go even more in on the
		
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			Green Party so we can build that leverage
		
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			and then use that leverage.
		
01:09:08 --> 01:09:10
			So you're saying, get in, show them what
		
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			they have so that they could see later
		
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			what they have to lose.
		
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			Yes, I think there's two prongs.
		
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			So one prong, I think that we do
		
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			have enough leverage to, even before the election.
		
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			I think when it comes to talking about
		
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			the campaign priorities and the different sort of
		
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			policies and things like that, I think that's
		
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			a conversation that can happen right now.
		
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			I don't think that has to wait until
		
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			we demonstrate at the ballot box in November.
		
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			In fact, it has to happen right now,
		
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			because as you were sort of alluding to,
		
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			we're not going to be able to turn
		
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			out the Muslim vote with rainbow flags.
		
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			So that's got to hit the shelf real
		
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			quick if we're going to pull out numbers.
		
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			However, when it comes to who are the
		
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			actual people on the ticket, that's something that
		
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			I think that if we really show up
		
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			for the Green Party in November and we
		
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			push them over, if they get 5%
		
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			or 10% or even 15%, if we're
		
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			being super optimistic, then that becomes a conversation
		
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			in December.
		
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			Or it's like, okay, let's plan for next
		
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			election cycle.
		
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			And we want more say as to who's
		
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			going to be your actual, like your presidential
		
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			candidate.
		
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			Really interesting.
		
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			It'd be very interesting to see the day
		
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			that there is a party that is willing
		
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			to listen to the Muslims so much that
		
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			even on matters of social values and things
		
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			that they'll have to listen.
		
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			And if they don't, then we walk.
		
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			And that's how haggling in the soup happens.
		
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			And that's why I thought that people, politics
		
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			is like haggling in the soup.
		
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			If you're not willing to walk away from
		
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			the table, they've got you.
		
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			So you have your goals, you realize that
		
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			it's a give and take, it's back and
		
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			forth.
		
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			But at the end of the day, you
		
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			have to be willing to walk.
		
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			If we pull out in huge numbers for
		
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			the Green Party and they say, forget you
		
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			guys, then we walk and we learn our
		
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			lesson.
		
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			We say, okay, we're going to do something
		
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			else 2028.
		
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			I think it's such an important lesson and
		
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			I don't, I kept you for an hour.
		
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			I don't want more than an hour.
		
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			I want to close with this.
		
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			Is that such an important lesson in any
		
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			relationship and anything that person does, you have
		
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			to outline at what point do I say
		
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			no to this?
		
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			And if you look at most people who
		
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			don't do that, and most people who buy
		
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			something that they don't want, it's basically, they
		
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			don't know how to say no.
		
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			And they never outlined at what price point
		
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			or at what request, at what element I'm
		
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			going to say, nah, I'm going to just
		
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			go my own way.
		
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			And what words are you going to use?
		
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			When they don't have that, they end up
		
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			basically buying the product or tolerating something like
		
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			abuse just to end the experience.
		
01:11:48 --> 01:11:49
			Exactly.
		
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			A hundred percent.
		
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			And that's why for your viewers, I want
		
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			every single person that asks that question to
		
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			any Muslim who comes to you now to
		
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			November telling you to vote for the Democratic
		
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			Party.
		
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			Ask them in what situation would you tell
		
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			me, would you not tell me to vote
		
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			for them?
		
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			How many Muslims have to die?
		
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			How many Palestinians?
		
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			Until all of Al-Quds has Israeli flags
		
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			over it, until the entire Gaza envelope and
		
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			all of the West Bank is taken, what
		
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			would it take for you to stand in
		
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			front of me and tell me to not
		
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			vote blue?
		
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			And I guarantee you, the vast majority of
		
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			people who are going to tell you to
		
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			vote blue have no answer for that.
		
01:12:27 --> 01:12:28
			No answer, yeah.
		
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			It's a blind loyalty and it's tribalism, as
		
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			you said, and it's like bir al-walidayn,
		
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			right?
		
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			That's what they're treating it like.
		
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			Interesting discussion as usual.
		
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			I had a couple more questions on my
		
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			mind that I want to bring up with
		
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			you, but it's too much.
		
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			We're holding you on too long.
		
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			It's okay.
		
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			It's an easy excuse to come back.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Very good, very good.
		
01:12:51 --> 01:12:52
			Thank you so much, first of all, for
		
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			staying so long.
		
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			I really appreciate it.
		
01:12:54 --> 01:12:55
			Anytime.
		
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			Inshallah, see you soon.
		
01:12:56 --> 01:12:57
			See you soon.
		
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			Jazakallah.
		
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			Listen, if you're in New York, if you're
		
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			in Pennsylvania, if you're in Delaware, come October
		
01:13:06 --> 01:13:09
			26th to support our Soup Kitchen, to hear
		
01:13:09 --> 01:13:11
			Imam Tom speak, to have a wonderful dinner,
		
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			and to be part of the art auction.
		
01:13:13 --> 01:13:15
			All right, if you get a second to
		
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			fire up that poster, October 26th.
		
01:13:19 --> 01:13:20
			Drive over.
		
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			Spend the night in New Jersey.
		
01:13:23 --> 01:13:24
			Well, let me just see what October 26th,
		
01:13:25 --> 01:13:26
			what day of the week is, first of
		
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			all.
		
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			It's a Saturday, October 26th.
		
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			Stay over and then attend with us on
		
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			Sunday.
		
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			Sunday, we got class.
		
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			October 27th, we got Waelim class.
		
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			I'll be teaching for three hours.
		
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			We're going to have a big lunch.
		
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			So stay over and attend.
		
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			Take a hotel.
		
01:13:48 --> 01:13:50
			It's going to be a really nice evening.
		
01:13:51 --> 01:13:56
			Get your ticket at lakosina367.org.
		
01:13:56 --> 01:13:58
			Again, lakosina367.
		
01:13:58 --> 01:14:00
			Why is it called 367?
		
01:14:01 --> 01:14:03
			That's the address, right?
		
01:14:03 --> 01:14:04
			That's the address, right?
		
01:14:04 --> 01:14:06
			And lakosina was taken, so we had to
		
01:14:06 --> 01:14:09
			make lakosina367.org.
		
01:14:09 --> 01:14:11
			Purchase your gala ticket right there.
		
01:14:12 --> 01:14:14
			Can you click on Gala Ticket and put
		
01:14:14 --> 01:14:16
			that link right there?
		
01:14:16 --> 01:14:20
			Yeah, put that link right there into the
		
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			thingy.
		
01:14:21 --> 01:14:22
			All right, so show up.
		
01:14:22 --> 01:14:27
			I know that some guys in Philly, big
		
01:14:27 --> 01:14:29
			viewers of the live stream, they're in Philly.
		
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			Show up.
		
01:14:32 --> 01:14:36
			Soup Kitchen is the future of dawah in
		
01:14:36 --> 01:14:39
			this area, and Sister Nihila started already with
		
01:14:39 --> 01:14:41
			the classes, started already with the dawah.
		
01:14:41 --> 01:14:43
			All right, so the dawah is going.
		
01:14:44 --> 01:14:46
			Let's keep the flyer up the whole time.
		
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			Next segment that we have is, I would
		
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			say Q&A because it's already three o
		
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			'clock.
		
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			Okay, and we're going to wrap up soon.
		
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			I'm not going to open up another segment.
		
01:15:03 --> 01:15:04
			I don't think I'll open up another segment.
		
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			There are a couple of things, and everyone
		
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			wants me to reply to Jake.
		
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			Trust me, it's not just a reply that's
		
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			going to happen.
		
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			I just don't want to say anything right
		
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			now because we do have something in store
		
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			for you in the future, in the very
		
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			near future.
		
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			We do have something in store for you
		
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			in the very near future, so I'm not
		
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			going to say something right now, but you
		
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			will see it today or tomorrow or the
		
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			day after.
		
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			All right, so that's all we're going to
		
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			say right there.
		
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			Chief Lateef is here, and Chief Lateef actually
		
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			addressed Butch Ware on the LigvidIQ issue, and
		
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			he said, you're coming to our mosque, but
		
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			your platform has LigvidIQ all over it, right?
		
01:15:50 --> 01:15:51
			How are we going to support this?
		
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			And I heard Butch Ware's response, and he
		
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			is an eloquent speaker and everything, but on
		
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			this one, he got a little bit emotional,
		
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			right?
		
01:16:00 --> 01:16:02
			He got a bit annoyed, and he was,
		
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			in fact, I would say, through some things
		
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			that were non sequiturs, nothing to do with
		
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			anything.
		
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			He said, I will not accept to see
		
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			gay people getting killed.
		
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			Who's killing?
		
01:16:17 --> 01:16:18
			Who's fighting gay people and killing gay people?
		
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			What are you talking about?
		
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			Right?
		
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			People are celebrated wherever they walk, right?
		
01:16:23 --> 01:16:26
			If a kid wants to be accepted in
		
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			his school and become made a celebrity, he
		
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			comes out as gay, right?
		
01:16:29 --> 01:16:30
			Or a trans or whatever.
		
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			It's the opposite now, right?
		
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			You get celebrated.
		
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			And then he said something like, what was
		
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			it?
		
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			He had some other things that really had
		
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			nothing to do with what Chief Lateef is
		
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			asking, a very simple question.
		
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			You know, as that famous Instagrammer would say,
		
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			yes, it's a very simple question, right?
		
01:16:55 --> 01:16:56
			It's a very simple question.
		
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			How am I going to lend support to
		
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			a group that is saying something haram in
		
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			my religion and standing for it and cheering
		
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			for it?
		
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			It's a very simple question.
		
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			And see, Imam Tom answered it pretty well.
		
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			And he said, look, you have to eventually
		
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			develop enough leverage to actually say no, right?
		
01:17:20 --> 01:17:21
			And you know what Butch Ware would have
		
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			been better off saying?
		
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			He said, yeah, I don't like it either.
		
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			But my strategy is, if we can show
		
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			them how, if we can be involved in
		
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			this party, we can have a say in
		
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			removing it later, right?
		
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			That would have been a fair, you can
		
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			agree or disagree, but at least it would
		
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			be a fair answer, right?
		
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			Rather than trying to ignore the question altogether.
		
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			Chief Lateef is asking a very simple question
		
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			that every Muslim is saying, right?
		
01:17:47 --> 01:17:48
			It's a simple answer.
		
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			The right answer would be, yeah, but the
		
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			thing is, as the VP, he can't say
		
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			he doesn't like part of the platform, right?
		
01:17:57 --> 01:17:58
			So that's why he can't say that.
		
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			But that's the only answer to give.
		
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			So yeah, I don't like it either.
		
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			But I'm trying to change this party from
		
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			within.
		
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			And the Green Party is a party, as
		
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			an outsider, seems that you could change it
		
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			from within.
		
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			It's so small, it seems, right?
		
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			How many people are involved in the Green
		
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			Party, right?
		
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			It would seem if right now in 2024,
		
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			okay, 2024, they're asking the Muslims to be
		
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			so involved, then I think the future looks
		
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			bright for them to be more involved in
		
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			this party.
		
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			And there's 234,000 registered members of the
		
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			Green Party.
		
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			That is such a small party, right?
		
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			I mean, if one or two major Muslim
		
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			groups told their people to get involved, they'd
		
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			be the majority soon, right?
		
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			So that's the issue of, yeah, 244k.
		
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			That's nothing.
		
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			If it was a million, that's still nothing,
		
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			right?
		
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			In terms of having a voice.
		
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			So Imam Tom's point is that we can
		
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			actually be, we can actually influence these people,
		
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			right?
		
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			Influence this party.
		
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			And if that's the lifeline of the party,
		
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			a thing with only 250 members, 1000 members,
		
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			there are probably more Muslims in the whole
		
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			East Coast, right?
		
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			Hey, it's green already.
		
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			So might as well get involved in that
		
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			party and then say, listen, we'll leave if
		
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			you don't take this stuff off your website,
		
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			right?
		
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			Who knows if that'll happen, but that's the
		
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			idea.
		
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			All right, let's go to Q&A.
		
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			If you were on Instagram the whole time,
		
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			I've said many times, and some of you
		
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			may be new to the stream, whenever we
		
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			have a guest, hop over to YouTube, Safina
		
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			Saeedi channel.
		
01:20:06 --> 01:20:08
			Hop over to YouTube, Safina Saeedi channel, anytime
		
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			we have a guest.
		
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			We have an action pack.
		
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			Who's our guest tomorrow?
		
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			Tomorrow we have Sheikh Mohammed Yasir al-Hanafi
		
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			to talk theology.
		
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			Who do you have Wednesday?
		
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			Thursday?
		
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			No, I don't know, do the launch or
		
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			the...
		
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			Okay, next Tuesday and Wednesday, we have some
		
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			big events.
		
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			We're going to release those on social media
		
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			soon and you'll see what we're doing here.
		
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			Let's go to your Q&A.
		
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			Okay, good.
		
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			Very good.
		
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			Very good.
		
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			What place do emotions have in Islam, says
		
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			the pulsating amygdala?
		
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			How to avoid extremes?
		
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			Okay, either constantly obeying your emotion or ignoring
		
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			them.
		
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			Very simple.
		
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			Sharia doesn't necessarily tell you about things internally
		
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			because we can't see them or interact with
		
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			them.
		
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			But what Sharia does tell is what lines
		
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			this emotion has to stop here and has
		
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			to go here.
		
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			And that emotion essentially will be regulated by
		
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			that action.
		
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			So for example, maybe a simple example.
		
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			Allah says in the Quran, if you love
		
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			your homes, your businesses, your kids, your family,
		
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			all that more than you love Allah and
		
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			his messenger, then get ready for punishment.
		
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			Oh, hold on a second.
		
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			How do I look inside and see what
		
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			do I love more?
		
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			Right?
		
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			So the answer is outside.
		
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			The answer is on the outside.
		
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			If are you willing to do something forbidden
		
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			for the sake of money, then at that
		
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			moment you love money more than you love
		
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			Allah.
		
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			So it is objective through actions.
		
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			If you are willing to remain silent on
		
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			someone who insults your prophet just so that
		
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			a deal can go through.
		
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			Let's say you're at the table.
		
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			You're about to have a deal with somebody,
		
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			right?
		
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			And that guy, you're about to have amazing
		
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			deal.
		
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			You're going to make so much money from
		
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			this guy, from this deal.
		
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			And he says, luckily, you're not one of
		
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			these Mohammedans who does all these things.
		
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			And he goes and makes fun of the
		
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			prophet.
		
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			You as a Muslim are in a very,
		
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			very important juncture at that moment in time.
		
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			If you just chuckle and you make the
		
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			deal, so you were willing for the money
		
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			to throw your messenger over the bus, under
		
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			the bus.
		
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			Let's make it a lot clearer.
		
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			Right?
		
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			Your mom and your wife are sitting there.
		
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			And the guy across the table from you
		
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			says, good luck in your life.
		
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			You live with it, with that old hag
		
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			your whole life.
		
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			And now you're living with this, whatever.
		
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			And you smile.
		
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			Are you going to smile and chuckle?
		
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			You're getting up immediately.
		
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			You're getting up immediately off the table.
		
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			And if you do not flip the table,
		
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			right?
		
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			The prophet is more worthy of you, meaning
		
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			all your loyalty, all your love than your
		
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			own self.
		
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			Right?
		
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			So here, that's a good example.
		
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			Always give an example that we can all
		
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			get.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			And then when you go and you tell
		
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			everybody, what happened?
		
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			No, no deal.
		
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			Why no deal?
		
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			Guy insulted my mom and my wife right
		
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			in front of me.
		
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			Right?
		
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			He thought it was a joke, but no,
		
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			no deal.
		
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			So at that point, same thing.
		
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			The point here is that love and emotions
		
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			are referred to, but the objective action is
		
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			on the outside.
		
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			So when you get too happy or too
		
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			down, many people have a little bit of
		
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			that bipolarness.
		
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			That's probably offensive in some circles, but I
		
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			mean to say they get too up and
		
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			too down.
		
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			No offense to people who actually suffer from
		
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			a disease of any sort, but you're going
		
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			to measure it first by haram and fard,
		
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			the two extremes.
		
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			The obligation, the extremes, I don't mean, I
		
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			mean bookends, the bookends of our legal rulings,
		
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			obligations or prohibitions.
		
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			You're too happy should not ever cause you
		
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			to do haram.
		
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			And many people do this.
		
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			When they get too happy, they spill into
		
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			the prohibited.
		
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			So therefore you are a follower of your
		
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			emotions at that moment, more so than Allah.
		
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			You love to be happy so much.
		
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			Right?
		
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			That you will even disobey your Lord in
		
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			that.
		
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			And another one, he gets so down, he
		
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			won't even get up to pray.
		
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			So you are too obedient to these emotions.
		
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			What do we say?
		
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			We say you have full control over your
		
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			limbs.
		
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			You are not majnun.
		
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			You are not possessed.
		
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			You have control over your limbs.
		
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			Fix the situation with your limbs.
		
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			Move, get up and move.
		
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			Now here's the thing.
		
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			When you do that, you stop being down
		
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			anymore.
		
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			Anyone who's down, go to the masjid, pray
		
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			in the mosque, hang out a little bit,
		
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			pray the next prayer in the mosque.
		
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			You won't be in depression after like two
		
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			prayers, right?
		
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			Unless it's an external depression like unemployment, sickness,
		
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			like that's different.
		
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			But a regular, I'm just down today, right?
		
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			Go to the masjid.
		
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			Some people, by the way, they have seasonal
		
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			disorder.
		
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			They should go out and get the light
		
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			because a lot of people say the light
		
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			works, right?
		
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			You know, the seasonal depression disorder, seasonally affected
		
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			disorder, whatever.
		
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			That light apparently does work on a lot
		
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			of people.
		
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			And basically, you wake up when you're having
		
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			your morning coffee or your breakfast, you just
		
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			push that light on for 25 minutes and
		
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			it's like shining on you.
		
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			Apparently, it really fixes people.
		
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			So a lot of people have seasonal effect
		
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			and most of us here, most of the
		
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			names I see in the live stream chat,
		
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			your DNA is not made for the Northern
		
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			Hemisphere, right?
		
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			And you know, DNA changes over time, like
		
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			maybe in two, three generations, those kids will
		
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			be made for this and who knows, maybe
		
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			not.
		
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			But all of us here, we're in hot
		
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			countries.
		
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			We're from hot, our parents are from hot
		
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			countries, right?
		
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			So who knows how long that's going to
		
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			take for our offspring here in the Northern
		
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			Hemisphere to just adapt to three, four months
		
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			of more or less gray, right?
		
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			Let's see what Malachi Klik says because he's
		
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			originally Norwegian.
		
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			He says, due to the sun not shining
		
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			except for four hours a day in Norway,
		
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			that happens to a lot of Norwegians.
		
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			See?
		
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			Even they get it because they have something
		
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			up way up at the top of Norway.
		
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			They have a little town there that has
		
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			something called the Polar Night, which is basically
		
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			the sun sets and it rises about two
		
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			and a half months later.
		
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			That it's one long night, right?
		
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			I wonder if someone's going to say there's
		
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			ever been a faqih who said, it's Aisha
		
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			for three months, right?
		
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			But of course they have to do taqdeer.
		
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			They have to pray according to an estimated
		
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			calendar, right?
		
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			So maybe they'll pray according to Asla or
		
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			something.
		
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			They'll get the Asla prayer times tables.
		
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			When do registrations for Arkview Essentials open up
		
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			again?
		
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			And the answer is tomorrow morning.
		
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			Tomorrow morning, you can go to arkview.org
		
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			and you could, I teach essentials along with
		
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			other teachers who teach intro to Aqidah, hafiz
		
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			the Quran for kids, intro to Hanafi, Maliki,
		
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			Shafi'i, Hanbali Fiqh, youth classes.
		
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			Sheikh Nuh Saunders teaches alongside with me, Tafsir
		
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			al-Quran.
		
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			So it's essentials.
		
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			Then we have Arabic.
		
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			It's its own track.
		
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			You sign up and Sheikh Mehdi is your
		
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			mentor for Arabic.
		
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			He'll take you all the way to the
		
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			top of the mountain.
		
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			Then we have same for Aqidah, Hanafi.
		
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			By the way, speaking of Aqidah, I'm very
		
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			happy with what's happening these days.
		
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			These brothers, Atharis, Salafis are driving so much
		
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			attention to Ash'ari Aqidah.
		
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			I couldn't do it myself, to be honest
		
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			with you.
		
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			I couldn't get this much attention for Ash
		
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			'ari Aqidah myself.
		
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			And someone tells you, oh yeah, but they're
		
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			spreading falsehoods, lies, doesn't make a difference.
		
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			People have brains.
		
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			People have brains.
		
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			The resources are out there.
		
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			Half the people, firstly, are like, what?
		
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			What is this?
		
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			They don't even know either side.
		
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			The other half split them in two.
		
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			One has a bad, half has a bad
		
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			opinion.
		
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			Half has already made up their minds, right?
		
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			So all that remains is get the word
		
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			out there for what we believe.
		
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			There are, I'll tell you what they try,
		
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			it's imagined now.
		
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			The Ash'ari is sitting down and saying,
		
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			this is Islam.
		
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			Ah, let's see which way we can ruin
		
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			Islam by adding some Greek myths in here.
		
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			Let's sneak the Greek myths in here, whatever.
		
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			Guarantee you 99% of the Ash'ari
		
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			theologians, of the Hanafis, of the Malikis, have
		
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			never opened a single book of these Greeks.
		
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			Could not even tell you a single thing
		
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			about them.
		
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			It's nothing to do with that.
		
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			It has to do with simple, basic understandings
		
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			of Mas'al that seem to be contradictory,
		
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			and we have to solve the contradiction.
		
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			Basic terms, you know, one time I said,
		
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			a brother told me the other day on
		
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			Twitter, he said, you define place, your definition
		
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			of place is Aristotelian.
		
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			What's Aristotelian about?
		
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			Common sense.
		
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			Badeeh is a common sense.
		
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			Fitri, place is a location where another thing
		
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			is.
		
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			That's it.
		
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			The table is the place of the iPad.
		
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			That's it.
		
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			There's no philosophy in this, right?
		
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			The Hayyaz is the thing, it's like the,
		
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			a little bit, almost volume, almost, right?
		
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			Something completely wrapping something up.
		
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			And some said the Hayyaz and the Meccan
		
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			is all the same.
		
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			Are we going to now say that Meccan
		
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			is not a clear-cut meaning across the
		
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			world?
		
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			Go ask a Chinese man what is Meccan,
		
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			right?
		
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			Scholars too.
		
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			Why don't we go to the Arabic lexicons?
		
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			So we that are taught, we define the
		
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			terms, you define the necessary implications of terms,
		
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			and we avoid contradictions.
		
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			Straight up common sense.
		
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			For anyone who has, who thinks critically, not
		
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			infected by any other ideology, you will come
		
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			up with the same conclusions.
		
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			It's also hypocrisy, like, because the premise here
		
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			is that if you take something from a
		
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			non-Muslim source, then automatically everything is wrong.
		
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			Like, you know, like the Prophet ﷺ said,
		
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			Right?
		
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			Like a word of wisdom is the last
		
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			property of a believer.
		
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			So just because like, okay, like, what language
		
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			do you speak?
		
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			You probably learn things in English, right?
		
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			Is English like a Muslim language?
		
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			Is this from like a divine origin?
		
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			No, so your entire premise, right?
		
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			You're using the English language.
		
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			You're using something that was from the Kuffar,
		
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			English, right?
		
01:31:12 --> 01:31:12
			Yeah.
		
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			So all the things that you're doing, they
		
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			must be haram, right?
		
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			You're using English.
		
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			By the way, rational sciences, just basic rational
		
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			sciences, and demonstrable sciences can be taken from
		
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			anybody.
		
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			The reason is, it doesn't rely on his
		
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			honesty.
		
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			If a Hindu tells us that if you
		
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			mix blue and red, you get purple.
		
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			I don't believe him.
		
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			He's going to do the experiment right in
		
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			front of my face and in front of
		
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			my own two eyes.
		
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			In our world right now, half of the
		
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			Muslim surgeons, he was taught by Dr. Patel,
		
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			right?
		
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			But did he trust Dr. Patel?
		
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			No, Dr. Patel just did the surgery in
		
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			front of him, right?
		
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			Same with math.
		
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			It's an equation.
		
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			So certain knowledges, if the Kuffar has it,
		
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			it's simply because he did more experiments, or
		
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			he just thought about it more.
		
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			And you don't take it from him as
		
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			if you're trusting him and taking his knowledge.
		
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			No, it's merely if he can put the
		
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			equation of math in front of you, you
		
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			can learn it from him, right?
		
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			So nothing in Aqidah of the Asha'ir
		
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			or Maturidiyah has come from outside of Islam.
		
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			You know, one more thing, it's funny that
		
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			you say that because these people, right?
		
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			So I've seen some of these Salafi guys,
		
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			they point the finger at the Asha'iris
		
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			and stuff.
		
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			Oh, you guys are taking from non-Muslims,
		
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			this and that.
		
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			Even though, like you mentioned, we're not just
		
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			blindly taking it.
		
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			It's funny because you guys are actually doing
		
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			that.
		
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			So in some of these debates, they'll quote
		
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			statistics from non-Muslim sources, right?
		
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			So you're taking all these statistics that you're
		
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			relying upon in your arguments, where'd you get
		
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			that from?
		
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			From a doctor, John, whatever, right?
		
01:32:48 --> 01:32:50
			So why are you like, these guys, they
		
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			don't actually believe in what they're saying.
		
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			Here's the thing, if you actually believed in
		
01:32:52 --> 01:32:54
			what you were saying, right?
		
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			Then you would pick up on that, that,
		
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			okay, this is actually from a non-Muslim
		
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			source, this and that.
		
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			No, you guys are just picking choosers.
		
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			You don't actually believe in what you're saying.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			So like, you're just misguiding people.
		
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			Bogues.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			Logic is an innate, it's self-evident knowledge.
		
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			Logic, when I remember taking the first book,
		
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			the Sulam, that's the teacher, I'm like, oh
		
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			my gosh, am I going to take a
		
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			class?
		
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			I was like younger, right?
		
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			Here we go.
		
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			The sheikhs are speaking, like, this is it?
		
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			What is it other than someone who thought
		
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			about something that nobody else thought of?
		
01:33:55 --> 01:33:57
			If he had said, categorize this, we'd all
		
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			come to the same conclusion, right?
		
01:33:59 --> 01:34:02
			It's literally self-evident knowledge, right?
		
01:34:03 --> 01:34:05
			And some of the claims, even some of
		
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			the, our ulama didn't accept all of their
		
01:34:08 --> 01:34:09
			summary claims, right?
		
01:34:09 --> 01:34:12
			To show that our ulama didn't take everything
		
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			from them.
		
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			Do we take ahad hadith in aqeedah or
		
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			just action?
		
01:34:18 --> 01:34:23
			We take ahad hadith in aqeedah and in
		
01:34:23 --> 01:34:27
			ibadat and the Hanafis and Malikis have an
		
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			extra condition here that it should not offer
		
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			an exception to a mutawatir source.
		
01:34:35 --> 01:34:38
			The Maliki's mutawatir source is Ahl al-Madinah.
		
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			That is their mutawatir.
		
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			Of course, the Quran too, right?
		
01:34:42 --> 01:34:43
			Quran, we all agree is mutawatir.
		
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			The Shafis and Hanbalis do hold, however, that
		
01:34:48 --> 01:34:53
			the ahad hadith can provide an exception to
		
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			the mutawatir.
		
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			And the Hanafis have another rule that it
		
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			should not be from the matters of everyday
		
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			rulings, right Omar?
		
01:35:05 --> 01:35:08
			The Hanafis, they do not utilize the ahad
		
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			hadith in everyday rulings, if it affects daily
		
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			practice.
		
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			We'll just object that.
		
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			Anyway, I'm split-minded because at one point,
		
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			I want to respond.
		
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			Another point, I almost feel like lured into
		
01:35:29 --> 01:35:31
			a trap from Iblis because we literally have
		
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			Armageddon.
		
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			We feel like this is the century it's
		
01:35:38 --> 01:35:39
			going to happen, right?
		
01:35:39 --> 01:35:41
			This is the century Israel is going to
		
01:35:41 --> 01:35:42
			be so back against the world, they could
		
01:35:42 --> 01:35:44
			nuke a couple of countries, right?
		
01:35:44 --> 01:35:45
			You feel that's in the air.
		
01:35:46 --> 01:35:49
			And I'm here being drawn into these things.
		
01:35:49 --> 01:35:53
			I feel like almost like stupid about it,
		
01:35:53 --> 01:35:53
			right?
		
01:35:53 --> 01:35:55
			Like why am I discussing this thing?
		
01:35:55 --> 01:35:56
			We were about to get nuked.
		
01:35:57 --> 01:35:59
			Our whole world, I don't even know if
		
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			nuked, they'll give the countries away at this
		
01:36:00 --> 01:36:01
			rate, right?
		
01:36:01 --> 01:36:02
			They'll give their own countries away.
		
01:36:02 --> 01:36:04
			They give their people away, their brothers and
		
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			sisters in Islam, they give them away.
		
01:36:06 --> 01:36:08
			So that's why on the other hand, who
		
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			knows Allah Ta'ala may be using these
		
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			trends, all right, to spread this aqidah because
		
01:36:20 --> 01:36:24
			this aqidah will fill in all the gaps
		
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			in your head.
		
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			There'll be no contradictions in your mind at
		
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			all.
		
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			Let's, speaking of that, let's take one thing
		
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			since we did end up covering.
		
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			Amr, can you open up the pictures I
		
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			sent you?
		
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			And we'll just read those really quickly, because
		
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			this is a question that came up.
		
01:36:48 --> 01:36:51
			And let's go to, yeah, let's start with
		
01:36:51 --> 01:36:52
			not that one first.
		
01:36:54 --> 01:36:55
			Yeah, let's next one.
		
01:36:56 --> 01:36:57
			There you go.
		
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			Let's start with that one first.
		
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			All right.
		
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			So here is a question on when Allah
		
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			created Adam on his image, is it, did
		
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			he create Adam on God's image?
		
01:37:11 --> 01:37:14
			Or did he create Adam on his own
		
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			image?
		
01:37:14 --> 01:37:18
			Or did he create Adam on another man's
		
01:37:18 --> 01:37:18
			image?
		
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			Meaning that that man looked like Adam.
		
01:37:23 --> 01:37:24
			He's created in the same form Allah created.
		
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			And in that all three statements have been
		
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			said.
		
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			Remember, we're not here trying to push one
		
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			ijtihad, one commentary and saying that's all of
		
01:37:33 --> 01:37:33
			Islam.
		
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			I may, there may be a commentary.
		
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			I said, I believe this is the truth,
		
01:37:36 --> 01:37:37
			right?
		
01:37:37 --> 01:37:39
			This is most close to the truth and
		
01:37:39 --> 01:37:41
			most sound to follow.
		
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			But I have to tell you, if it
		
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			is a commentary or not, you're robbing, you're
		
01:37:45 --> 01:37:48
			fooling Muslims and misleading them.
		
01:37:48 --> 01:37:50
			If you tell them that an opinion is
		
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			the religion, and that's it, that's not right.
		
01:37:52 --> 01:37:54
			You have to say where it's a matter
		
01:37:54 --> 01:37:55
			of opinion.
		
01:37:55 --> 01:37:57
			And here I'm telling you, there are three
		
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			statements on this.
		
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			It's, okay, one of the first statement is
		
01:38:03 --> 01:38:06
			that Allah created Adam on his own image.
		
01:38:07 --> 01:38:08
			That's a statement.
		
01:38:09 --> 01:38:11
			But that doesn't mean we have to follow
		
01:38:11 --> 01:38:12
			that statement.
		
01:38:12 --> 01:38:14
			Just because something is a statement does not
		
01:38:14 --> 01:38:16
			necessarily mean that all of our teachers will
		
01:38:16 --> 01:38:17
			agree to it.
		
01:38:18 --> 01:38:22
			And our teachers and our main sources do
		
01:38:22 --> 01:38:22
			not agree with that.
		
01:38:23 --> 01:38:24
			What do they say?
		
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			They say that there is a second opinion
		
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			where it's a man struck his son.
		
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			Another hadith, the Prophet said, when you fight
		
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			wars, avoid the face because Adam created, Allah
		
01:38:36 --> 01:38:40
			created Adam on his image, meaning that was
		
01:38:40 --> 01:38:42
			the face that Allah created Adam upon.
		
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			So to honor that, don't hit that.
		
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			All right, let's take another one.
		
01:38:49 --> 01:38:51
			That could be the case.
		
01:38:51 --> 01:38:52
			Let's take another hadith.
		
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			This was the one that we have up.
		
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			Allah created Adam on his image and his
		
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			height is 60 yards.
		
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			So therefore, his here must refer to Adam.
		
01:39:06 --> 01:39:09
			Because in basic, and I think every language
		
01:39:09 --> 01:39:11
			has this, when you say a pronoun, it
		
01:39:11 --> 01:39:15
			points to the nearest noun that was mentioned.
		
01:39:16 --> 01:39:16
			That's number one.
		
01:39:17 --> 01:39:22
			Secondly, and his height is 60 feet tall.
		
01:39:23 --> 01:39:24
			Clearly, that's not Allah.
		
01:39:25 --> 01:39:28
			It's clearly talking about Adam, because no one
		
01:39:28 --> 01:39:30
			will say the height of Allah is 60
		
01:39:30 --> 01:39:31
			yards tall.
		
01:39:32 --> 01:39:38
			Okay, so third pronoun, again, the third pronoun
		
01:39:38 --> 01:39:39
			here.
		
01:39:39 --> 01:39:44
			So all refer to Adam.
		
01:39:47 --> 01:39:49
			Let's take another question here.
		
01:39:50 --> 01:39:53
			Why would Allah say that he created Adam
		
01:39:53 --> 01:39:53
			on his image?
		
01:39:54 --> 01:39:56
			Meaning the image that he had of the
		
01:39:56 --> 01:39:58
			dunya, that way that the human being looks,
		
01:39:58 --> 01:40:00
			is how Adam was created in the heavens.
		
01:40:01 --> 01:40:05
			It's to clarify that, to clarify the issue
		
01:40:05 --> 01:40:09
			of was Adam created differently in the heavens?
		
01:40:09 --> 01:40:11
			Like does the human being look the same?
		
01:40:11 --> 01:40:13
			Or when he came to the earth, he
		
01:40:13 --> 01:40:13
			looked different?
		
01:40:15 --> 01:40:15
			Right?
		
01:40:15 --> 01:40:19
			So let's turn to our go-to and
		
01:40:19 --> 01:40:21
			that is the first one we're going to
		
01:40:21 --> 01:40:23
			look at is Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani.
		
01:40:25 --> 01:40:27
			And then we're going to, and that is
		
01:40:27 --> 01:40:27
			the bigger one.
		
01:40:30 --> 01:40:32
			Okay, go to the move that.
		
01:40:32 --> 01:40:32
			Yeah, there you go.
		
01:40:33 --> 01:40:34
			Let's go to Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani.
		
01:40:35 --> 01:40:38
			Somebody recently said Nawawi and Ibn Hajar are
		
01:40:38 --> 01:40:40
			not authorities anywhere, or Nawawi is not an
		
01:40:40 --> 01:40:41
			authority to any Muslim.
		
01:40:42 --> 01:40:43
			Well, really?
		
01:40:45 --> 01:40:46
			You ever hear of Al-Shafi'i?
		
01:40:47 --> 01:40:47
			Right?
		
01:40:49 --> 01:40:51
			He is the number one authority in fiqh
		
01:40:51 --> 01:40:51
			for them.
		
01:40:52 --> 01:40:52
			Right?
		
01:40:53 --> 01:40:55
			And his aqeedah is pristine.
		
01:40:56 --> 01:40:58
			And his sharh of Muslim is an amazing
		
01:40:58 --> 01:41:01
			sharh, even though he wrote it very young.
		
01:41:01 --> 01:41:03
			Still one of the most amazing sharhats.
		
01:41:04 --> 01:41:06
			Well, yes, well he is our authority.
		
01:41:07 --> 01:41:09
			And go to any faqih in the world,
		
01:41:11 --> 01:41:13
			any Hanafi, Maliki or Shafi'i.
		
01:41:13 --> 01:41:14
			And he said, yeah, Shaykh, if I live
		
01:41:14 --> 01:41:18
			my life and all I had were the
		
01:41:18 --> 01:41:19
			works of Imam al-Nawawi, where he says
		
01:41:19 --> 01:41:21
			go, I go, where he says do this,
		
01:41:21 --> 01:41:22
			I do that.
		
01:41:23 --> 01:41:25
			Not he's saying, he's saying the religion says,
		
01:41:25 --> 01:41:25
			right?
		
01:41:26 --> 01:41:28
			What's my status with Allah?
		
01:41:28 --> 01:41:29
			And I succeed at that.
		
01:41:29 --> 01:41:30
			What's my status with Allah?
		
01:41:31 --> 01:41:32
			It's going to have to say, well, your
		
01:41:32 --> 01:41:33
			status is very good.
		
01:41:33 --> 01:41:36
			If all of your aqeedah is as Nawawi
		
01:41:36 --> 01:41:37
			said it, all of your fiqh is as
		
01:41:37 --> 01:41:40
			Nawawi said it, all of your akhlaaq and
		
01:41:40 --> 01:41:41
			your tasawwuf is as Nawawi said it, you
		
01:41:41 --> 01:41:42
			will be very good.
		
01:41:42 --> 01:41:44
			Is that no one's going to deny.
		
01:41:45 --> 01:41:48
			Now, unless, and if you do hold that
		
01:41:48 --> 01:41:51
			Nawawi himself is a misguided person, then we're
		
01:41:51 --> 01:41:52
			not talking to you anymore.
		
01:41:52 --> 01:41:52
			We can't talk to you.
		
01:41:53 --> 01:41:55
			They're like at that point, what common ground
		
01:41:55 --> 01:41:56
			do we have?
		
01:41:56 --> 01:42:00
			So this here is Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani.
		
01:42:00 --> 01:42:03
			He's the other one, except Ibn Hajar does
		
01:42:03 --> 01:42:05
			not have the tawassul and the place in
		
01:42:05 --> 01:42:07
			fiqh that Nawawi has in fiqh.
		
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			خَلَقَ اللَّهُ آدَمَ عَلَى صُورَتِهِ تَقَدَّمَ بَيَانُهُ فِي
		
01:42:13 --> 01:42:26
			بَدْءِ الْخَلْقِ وَاخْتُلِفَ وَاخْتُلِفَ
		
01:42:26 --> 01:42:29
			إِلَّا مَاذَا يَعُودُ الضَّمِيرُ It's differed upon.
		
01:42:29 --> 01:42:30
			What is the pronoun?
		
01:42:30 --> 01:42:32
			God created Adam on his image.
		
01:42:32 --> 01:42:33
			What is the pronoun?
		
01:42:33 --> 01:42:37
			فَقِيلَ إِلَى آدَمَ It has been said to
		
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			Adam, meaning, and by saying he's saying the
		
01:42:41 --> 01:42:43
			whole subject is up for interpretation.
		
01:42:44 --> 01:42:46
			That means nobody should simply say this is
		
01:42:46 --> 01:42:47
			it one way and that's it.
		
01:42:47 --> 01:42:49
			You can say this is what I'm most
		
01:42:49 --> 01:42:51
			convinced by and that's what I teach my
		
01:42:51 --> 01:42:53
			people, my family, and myself, and that's what
		
01:42:53 --> 01:42:54
			my belief is.
		
01:42:55 --> 01:42:57
			Fine, but keep recognized it is up for
		
01:42:57 --> 01:42:58
			shot.
		
01:42:58 --> 01:43:00
			And when we talk to these brothers the
		
01:43:00 --> 01:43:01
			number one issue is, I don't want to
		
01:43:01 --> 01:43:04
			even debate my point, the number one thing
		
01:43:04 --> 01:43:06
			is to debate or to get the point
		
01:43:06 --> 01:43:09
			across the whole subject matter is اجتهادي.
		
01:43:09 --> 01:43:11
			Like group dhikr, I don't even care if
		
01:43:11 --> 01:43:13
			you believe in group dhikr, or mawalid, or
		
01:43:13 --> 01:43:13
			misbahs, or anything.
		
01:43:14 --> 01:43:16
			But you have to admit what I do
		
01:43:16 --> 01:43:17
			care about, you have to admit this is
		
01:43:17 --> 01:43:18
			the subject of discussion.
		
01:43:18 --> 01:43:21
			There's not one way and that's it.
		
01:43:21 --> 01:43:24
			You have massive amounts of scholars on both
		
01:43:24 --> 01:43:24
			sides.
		
01:43:26 --> 01:43:30
			فَقِيلَ إِلَى آدَمَ أَيْ خَلَقَهُ عَلَى سُرَتِهِ الَّتِي
		
01:43:30 --> 01:43:35
			اسْتَمَرَّ عَلَيْهَا إِلَى أَنْ أُهْبِطَ وَإِلَى أَنْ مَتْ
		
01:43:35 --> 01:43:39
			So it's that image, the image that Adam
		
01:43:39 --> 01:43:42
			was created on in the heavens and then
		
01:43:42 --> 01:43:44
			came down with that image and died upon
		
01:43:44 --> 01:43:44
			that image.
		
01:43:45 --> 01:43:49
			دَفْعًا لِتَوَهُمِ مَنْ يَظُنُّ أَنَّهُ لَمَا كَانَ فِي
		
01:43:49 --> 01:43:53
			الْجَنَّةِ كَانَ عَلَى سِفَةٍ أُخْرَى To repel the
		
01:43:53 --> 01:43:56
			false understanding of some people, maybe it was
		
01:43:56 --> 01:43:57
			being said at the time of the Prophet
		
01:43:58 --> 01:44:01
			That he changed his image, that he was
		
01:44:01 --> 01:44:03
			one image in paradise and Allah changed his
		
01:44:03 --> 01:44:07
			image Okay, or his image changed when he
		
01:44:07 --> 01:44:12
			came down to the earth أَوِبْتَدَأَ خَلْقَهُ كَمَا
		
01:44:12 --> 01:44:16
			وُجِدَ لَمْ يَنْتَقِلُ فِي النَّشْأَةِ كَمَا يَنْتَقِلُ وَلَدُهُ
		
01:44:16 --> 01:44:18
			مِنْ حَالَةٍ إِلَى حَالَةٍ And this would be
		
01:44:18 --> 01:44:21
			a refutation to the evolutionist Muslims, which you'd
		
01:44:21 --> 01:44:22
			be out of Islam if you believe that
		
01:44:22 --> 01:44:24
			Adam evolved This is one of the hadiths
		
01:44:24 --> 01:44:28
			that supports that Concept that Adam as is
		
01:44:28 --> 01:44:30
			mentioned in the Quran was created as a
		
01:44:30 --> 01:44:35
			complete human being right as an adult Human
		
01:44:35 --> 01:44:38
			being that means he did not become as
		
01:44:38 --> 01:44:42
			we are a sperm a seed a zygote
		
01:44:42 --> 01:44:47
			or whatever And then he went through the
		
01:44:47 --> 01:44:50
			stages of birth So this hadith is refuting
		
01:44:50 --> 01:44:55
			that element too Okay in its words it
		
01:44:55 --> 01:44:57
			refutes it not that we can't say that
		
01:44:57 --> 01:44:59
			people were we don't know if people were
		
01:44:59 --> 01:45:02
			ever saying anything close to that Uh at
		
01:45:02 --> 01:45:03
			the time, but it could be that they
		
01:45:03 --> 01:45:06
			were saying that he had a different form
		
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			in the heaven and a form on the
		
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			earth Okay And it has also been said
		
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			Well So he says
		
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			here that it could be a refutation of
		
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			some atheist beliefs Who believed in the eternality
		
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			of everything that everything is qadeem that The
		
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			only way that a human being can be
		
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			created is from the seed of a male
		
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			and a female And that it can just
		
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			continuously goes back He's saying no allah created
		
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			him as he is now as a full
		
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			adult So he says and this
		
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			is close to It's amazing that ibn hajj
		
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			is actually pointing to Very close to an
		
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			evolutionary idea here or a naturalist idea here
		
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			He says it has been said that it's
		
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			a response to the taba iyan the naturalist
		
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			who say that the human being Came out
		
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			of natural processes So what darwinistic or naturalistic?
		
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			Ideas that we have now he's pointing to
		
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			that way back in his time ibn hajj
		
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			time find this when he died ibn hajj
		
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			All right.
		
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			So Okay, and then I uh the rest
		
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			of it I didn't see but he has
		
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			more possibilities 852 hijri, okay 852
		
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			after the hijra 1449 so that there is
		
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			Ibn hajj and that's what we teach and
		
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			that's what we believe Right knowing that it
		
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			is It's it's jihad from him Let's take
		
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			a look at say Imam and now we
		
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			Who's Saying this without any disrespect to the
		
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			Legitimate ulama who did say that it does
		
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			return to the image of allah ta'ala
		
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			and they have their own proofs and they
		
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			give different narrations completely And I wish that
		
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			This is just the summary because he does
		
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			have a ta'wil somewhere else in his
		
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			book imam And no, we have to get
		
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			that and I have to get him in
		
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			hajj later, but this suffices for us, right?
		
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			Imam and now he agrees here.
		
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			He says this hadith is very clear that
		
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			The pronoun goes back to adam God created
		
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			adam on his image meaning on the image
		
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			that adam was on as a human being
		
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			Same image in in as created as an
		
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			adult that same image.
		
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			He came down to the earth.
		
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			He was not created as a child created
		
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			as And naturally evolved.
		
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			He was not created in any other way
		
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			He was created directly as an adult and
		
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			upon that same image.
		
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			He existed in the heavens.
		
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			He came down He didn't change when he
		
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			came down Surah He was
		
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			created as an adult and he died an
		
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			adult he was not created in any of
		
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			these other ways and what else And he
		
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			was 60 cubits tall He did not grow
		
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			as we grow He's created 60 Cubits tall
		
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			whatever And he stayed that way He didn't
		
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			grow and he didn't go through phases as
		
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			we did Which we do we grow tall
		
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			and then we start small go tall And
		
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			the hadith is pointing to that his image
		
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			in paradise is his image on the earth
		
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			He did not change the human being in
		
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			paradise is not anything different than this Of
		
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			course in paradise would be much more perfect
		
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			but same concept face arms Those proportions that
		
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			we all know That's it And the rest
		
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			of the hadith has other elements to it,
		
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			but people were asking that question And that
		
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			is the answer that we hold on to
		
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			and that is authoritative according to many many
		
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			many hadith scholars Including here what we just
		
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			cited ibn hajjah and nawawi and many aqidah
		
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			scholars Teach the same thing All right, we
		
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			got to wrap up Subhanak.
		
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			Unfortunately, we have to wrap up.
		
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			We have a lot of good questions here.
		
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			I want to take but we will Close
		
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			it at that Was there something else that
		
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			we needed to cover real quick?
		
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			All right, let's stop here jazakum allah khairun
		
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			everybody Keep spreading good things.
		
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			Keep working hard And we will get to
		
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			your questions inshallah ta'ala arc view will
		
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			launch tomorrow You can sign up tomorrow for
		
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