Shadee Elmasry – Consumption
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Welcome to the Safina society podcast. We are joined today, once
again by Dr. Shetty, LCSW. And myself, Maureen. And we are also
joined today by brother Massoud. And today, mushrooms, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, mushroom. And today we're going to be talking about
consumption, food and all else rather over consumption. And
today, the one thing that I've been thinking about is that
natural food that poor people used to eat in the past was priced
insanely,
is currently now pricing is insanely wild. I mean, I live I
work in Philly. And if you try to find anything that's remotely
natural, it's ridiculously overpriced, while
processed, garbage food is quite cheap, very, very cheap. And it
said, you know that a man from Ghana once went to a French
restaurant. And he asked for orange juice. And when he got
squeezed orange juice, he said, No, no, I want the orange juice in
the can I can get the squeezed orange juice in the village.
Right? So I want to talk about not just food consumption, maybe we
can start there. But the idea of consumption and where does Islam,
you know, draw the boundary lines in terms of consumption. Alright,
so should I start off?
Sure. So the temptations in general, the two temptations or
all the various temptations that people have, are for wisdom, great
wisdom that Allah Tala never gave anyone didn't give us human
beings, a temptation of any sort, except that it was for the reason
of continuing our existence. So we have Jehovah food, to continue our
individual existence, we have Jehovah of * for the
continuation of the species, we have settled for money, right to
be able to do things we have Shaohua money is a really
motivator for people to do what they wouldn't otherwise have done.
Right. So more money, your work more power, to make responsibility
have a type of glimmer around it. Because nobody would want a
responsibility if it didn't have some kind of initial temptation to
it. Right? So power is a little bit of a glimmer or a little cloak
on the sense of responsibility for others. So all these things are
really for a sake of our survival, and for the sake of our existence,
and continuing our existence, but the issue is the tempering them.
And of course, most people don't temper them. I mean, anger is a
type of if you think about it, it's it is a passion for people,
people love it. Some people love to be angry, right. And we have a
movement today of youth that they love to be angry, unfortunately,
right.
But the idea of being angry, is an idea that you need to change
things, and it sort of enums and clouds, your thought about
consequences. So you don't think about consequences when you're
angry. But sometimes you can't think about consequences. You need
to take an action right away in order to get something done. And
then forget that if everyone thought about consequences,
nothing would ever get fixed, right? These are all desires and
shows that people have a moment of Azad, he said the shower of the
eye is beauty of the ears, sounds of the scent, there's all these
show efforts to continue and to improve her life. But the issue is
and Islam is tempering them. And I'll just close with one thing. If
you think about the most materialistic nations today,
according to where designer companies, and I'm not I'm talking
about these crazy designer brands, like Dolce and Gabbana, and all
these Louis Vuitton and all that stuff. Russia and China, the
biggest markets for stupid events, right? The bill spent, like money
that Americans won't spend and think about that they just went
through about a century or so of being told about equality and and
you know, the whole communist ethic, not just equality, no class
and, and materialism and these excesses are bad, right? And they
actually went to such an extreme the communists that look, were
there people bounce back? Right? So it's now not there people like
all of them, but it's now you know, very noticeable. The
consumption in those countries. I find something very interesting
about consumption and the idea of food comes to mind when so I have
a lot of family that recently came over from India. And the one thing
that I've noticed is they were relatively poor.
You're back in India, and they didn't have access to the type of
food that we have access to here. And one thing that I've noticed is
their diet in particular was very bland, and, you know, very, a very
staple type of diet, they almost the same thing, you know, three,
four times a week, and that was completely normal to them. It is
it was not normal for them to eat meat, you know, more than, you
know, like, once a week, right? It's just, it's just not something
that they had readily available or was expensive. And it wasn't just
something they did. And so when they came over here, having an
excess amount of food was very shocking to them. And another
thing is here, especially in modern countries, like America, in
sorry, developed countries like America, one thing that you see is
you have an act, you have access to the best cuisine from all over
the world, right, and you have the ability to pay for it. So you're
not just getting you know, your, you know, vicinities best biryani,
for example, you know, you're, you could go to restaurants that are
highly rated by you know, 1000s of people and go get the best, you
know, whatever dish, and having the access to all of that it
actually lessens the value of food as well. It's something that I
noticed and one thing they mentioned to me is, you know, when
it came to eat, right, like either one other, that was the one time
where they ate a lot of meat, and they didn't get to see meet the
rest of the year as much right and certainly as readily available.
And so either other is actually in a holiday where they enjoyed meet.
And it's not like that here at all right? It's not it's not special
to eat meat. I mean, I can't say I mean, I can only speak for myself,
but that's how I feel. I remember you know, having meat and eat and
not knowing what's the big deal. Like, what is okay, what is the
what is unique about eight, we're gonna have a lamp, but we just had
steak yesterday steak is superior the lamb, right? It's like, what
is the what is never under Stephens understood how that's a
big deal. But honestly, you have to starve yourself. If you want to
enjoy food, if you like food, you actually need to starve yourself.
So that, you know, when you do actually eat food, you know, you
can it has some value. So for the past kind of week, I've been doing
this kind of like thing with my diet where I only eat one meal a
day, which is just dinner, right? And it's been like, basically,
it's basically just like you're fasting, but you can only drink
water. one meal a day is perfect. Yeah. So so but like I was one
that. So I was one that like, really just went into eating a lot
because it's you know, going to the gym and going all these places
and really trying to like lift and get bigger, I guess. Right? And
which is like, especially in the Muslim community with the
brothers, it's very, very prominent, we're just getting big,
getting the gains, right getting these meat, literally, it's every
day.
And specifically with that I was eating four to five meals a day,
which which were like smaller kind of things, but they did amount to
like 23 2400 calories.
And it definitely put on mass, right. But the goal was like then
it just kept hitting in my head, like, you know, it's just the one
meal a day would be so like, because because every desire,
right? It's linked to, like, if you're not going to feel one
desire, you're gonna feel another desire, right? So if I'm not going
to be if I'm going to be full, other desires will come into play.
Or if I'm going to starve myself, I'm going to be focused on that.
So I'm going to be trying to compensate for that. I actually
think that most people don't have this, at least in airport. Eating
isn't the main issue. There's their other drives, and other
obsessions. Career, for example, it's a form of consumption.
There's no doubt about it. People that care so much about their
career, like wealth is like even people aren't even their stuff
even beyond wealth, right? Today, it's not even wealth, it's more
like perception. And especially amongst the younger crowd that
grew up with the Kardashians, it's perception is even greater to them
than welcome, I think. And I think they use perception. Like the
Kardashians use perceptions as a means to wealth. Right? So
creating those, like, most people would probably have want to have
more likes than money. There are some youth I'm sure. I'm not like
picking on youth, but the people grew up in that Kardashian time.
Right? They would rather have likes than money. Well, Chiclet
has been happening for a long time.
Not even just this this younger generation. You know, it's been a
few generations now where people for what you're saying for
perception for acceptance in whatever their social group is,
will forego forget about wealth will forego even breaking even
they'll go into severe debt, just to have something that people will
look at them and say oh,
While I approve of what you have, or at least you're on my level,
you know that keeping up with the Joneses, this has been going on
for a long time. And the ratio of debt to achieve that has just been
increasing, and social media and stuff like that definitely plays a
big part. Because people live their whole lives for what they
can post on Instagram. And this idea of keeping up with the
Joneses is what things used to be. Now it's keeping up with people
that you see on TV. Yeah, so the Joneses, you don't even know them
anymore, right? It's Keeping Up With The Kardashians or keeping up
with, you know, some or the other celebrity that's on TV all the
time. We don't even know the Joneses. We now know the
Kardashians like keeping up with whoever's on TV. I mean, that's
the name of their show, you know, what is keeping them with the
Kardashian? Oh, really? I don't even know. That was the name of
it. I don't know why they're famous. It's still that's still
that shows still running. They're good at marketing. Yeah. Because
they're a Hollywood family, spin offs, and all of that stuff. They
were born like the girls grew up in LA. So I think the dad was
already in Hollywood, who was entertainment lawyer. Oh, really?
That explains everything. And the when it comes to consumption, it's
also just stuff, right? I think you mentioned in a previous
podcast, but before people could count on their fingers, how much
stuff they actually owned, right? Okay, you know, I have, you know,
three articles of clothing I have, you know, to this and to have
that. And that's pretty much it. You know, I have like 1520 things
in it. Like that's it. I don't think any of us now could even
forget, count on on. No, we couldn't count. You don't you
couldn't count in general, how many things you own.
Sent the blessings of Allah to Allah cannot be counted. Most
people's possessions literally today cannot be counted. That's
ridiculous. Like how many things things are in this house? It's
unbelievable. It's unreal. Especially when you have like, if
you want to if you want if you have a friend, let's say that
bothers you, that annoys you. Right? You know, those types of
people that annoy you, but they're there you stuck with them in life,
when they have a daughter that you should be celebrating. You go out
there every time you visit them and you buy them little bracelet
kit, little jewelry kit, right. In two days, the house will be
littered with little beads, little wires, little things like this.
Because plastic stuff is cheap. Because of
industrial movement, this stuff is just so cheap. Right? It's
meaningless. And I think it ruins childhoods even because I had like
a box of toys, a box. And then in there was a closet. There were
some games, board games. And there was a box of toys that toys had
cars, humans and transformers and GI Joes. Right?
That was that box. Believe it or not, my dad actually still has it
in the closet. Because that was a that was my box of toys. Right?
Right. There was a period of time where things got ridiculous.
That's when its toys started getting cheaper. But there was
that initial box of toys when you got a toy that was you got to toy
like on eighth birthday. I eat? Yeah. So
you had it, you could actually remember, you know, those toys,
and I sort of actually actually pass them down, right. But today,
a kid gets a toy. That toy is like forgotten. Immediately before the
next you know, day passes, next week passes, right, and they're
like, sometimes really neat toys, like a bottle top you you pull the
thing and the top goes around, you know, whatever tops.
Yeah, blade blades and all that stuff. And those types of things
just started playing stop playing with them.
So the the these types of toys are, they would have been abused a
kid in our generation for the whole weekend, every weekend for
like a year or two. But nowadays, it's meaningless. So that's not
just with toys. I mean, that's with anything from media, to art,
to books to podcasts, like, take take our podcast, for example,
right? I know, the way I listen to podcasts, it's just one after the
other. Right? The you get one and then the next one comes along,
then you get one and the next one comes along. You don't even
remember what was said in the last, you know, like few podcasts.
That's why I actually don't personally attend as a speaker at
conferences, because I feel like my the time there is spent is
wasted. Let's say I give a great 10 minute 1520 minute talk, let's
say hypothetically, that's going to be drowned out by 10. Other
equally excellent talks, like there comes a point that these
events, they're not going to invite some kind of person who
isn't going to bore anyone. So everyone's going to be good.
Right? Right. So in fact, you know, like, you're good statement
is going to be drowned out by 10 Other good statements. So the idea
of the drown out, it's so pronounced these days. And that's
why I forget where I heard this this tip. It's that repetition is
the key to memory. And it's the key to really anything right. And
so, even when it comes to like a lecture or a talk even
have a slightly mediocre talk is better in a private audience that
you've actually taken notes in and you and you've heard a few times,
rather than, you know, somewhere else where you hear this amazing
talk over and over again, I have this book at home, it's called the
toothpaste millionaire. I got it when I was like, maybe in like
sixth or seventh grade, and I still have it on my shelf. And
I've read the I remember when I was younger, I used to read it,
you know, every few weeks, I would, I would go meet going
through the book. It's only like 50 pages or something that's about
this kid who opens up a toothpaste factory, and he's becomes an
entrepreneur and whatnot. But I remember reading this book over
and over and over again, because I didn't ever have any access to
that many books as a kid. And so I was just going through that book,
and I still remember it to this day. And it's something that's
like, when it comes to entrepreneurial work. Like, it's
something that that inspires me to this day, like, I mean, I've read
a bunch of self help books on you know, how to start your own
business and become your own, you know, entrepreneur and all that
none of it has impacted me but this stupid book called the
toothpaste millionaire, which is probably very poor, mediocre
writing anyway, written by an unknown author that nobody knows
about. And it's like 50 pages. That's the one that you know what
days with me, when people were studying in Syria, and there was
came a time where everyone's going to Syria. Someone asked him Zane,
what's this? What's the best book to study? He said, the one you
finish.
These people study so many different books, and they get this
ride the wave. So there's a new shift, okay, let's ride that wave.
There's an everyone's now study, monkey. Let's ride that wave. All
of a sudden, everyone's studying Hadith. Let's ride that wave. It's
just the one you finish. And that's.
And that's where less is more. The one of the thrills I get every
once in a while, is going through the house with a garbage bag and
just dump it, dump it dump and dump it dump it. Right. And if
it's good, I'll take it out to the certain neighborhoods where they
don't have anything. Right. And they'll take anything. Literally,
they are so Miskin that one time, one of the things that we dumped
out of the message, the shoes that had been left there, there was one
shoe which was a left chapel.
The right one wasn't even found. It was a left, someone took it,
just the left shuffle. I mean, there are people not so far from
us that are so miskeen and we just have so much so the idea of the
empty room. I just crave the empty room, right. So I just take take
take take put it in the garbage bag, it's all at no mercy.
vicious, vicious, no mercy, no sentimental value, sentimental
value picture album. That's it. And sentimental value. Some people
are almost their consumption is that, oh, this is the pencil that
someone gave me. Oh, this is the bracelet that grandma gave grandma
doesn't even remember giving it to you. She probably received it from
someone else. And it was just given as a free gift. It's a real
gift, right? This is the shirt that someone so get this. It's all
just empty stuff. And it's just meaningless. I have to tell you
that.
I might, I might, I might have a controversial take in the middle
of this at some point maybe when do you not?
So first of all, I agree with you empty space, an open room with
nothing in it. This is the perfect environment for a normal human
being right and you don't need a lot of artifacts on the walls. You
don't need a lot of distractions. You don't need a lot of different
patterns and colors what you need is a space that reflects you know,
gives you the ability to just think and be with a lot.
I know a brother really well cool before he got married. He had a
one bedroom apartment. in that apartment he had a futon so his
couch in his bed
milk crate with like a cloth over it to make it look like a table
okay that he had a little TV on no cable, just antenna and just to
get a local news or whatever.
kitchen table with two chairs,
a few plates, some a couple of pots to cook. That's it. And
that's literally everything in like a like a like a radio, it's
about to play CDs or whatever. That's everything that he had in
the house. This is a perfect environment. And I actually love
the idea of open space it makes me feel good. Whereas clutter and the
Egyptians have this habit I think they took from the French baroque
style because we're doing it giant furniture yet giant furniture
that's bigger than the human himself. Right there's more space
the vault in terms of volume, the couch takes up more space than the
actual human beings beds that are huge. I saw like I saw in bed last
week. Yeah, with with a step ladder with two steps like
stepping through ticket and how about if there's a corner there's
got to be a little vase.
And look at all these gifts and everything has to be overly
ornate. Oh, nothing simple excess. And that's what people don't
really that's the Baroque style. That's what they did. Every single
inch has to have something on it. And when you have
dinners or friends come over. They're going to bring you a gift.
I want to tell my friends don't bring me gifts. You want to bring
me a gift bring me things that I actually need this type of light
bulb, right? So I don't have to replace batteries.
I'd much rather you give me that batteries. Basic stuff. Don't get
me. Look, look, it's in the backing plate.
Want to deal with it? Okay, like a vase, right? I hit because of the
whole company should be.
One time one of our we invited some good friends over for dinner.
Yeah, they came, they brought like three pounds of chicken. That's
great gift for your freezer. That's a great gift. That's fresh,
good chicken. That's a good, that's a good was the best gift
anybody's ever bought for dinner, that's gonna bring me a pie. I
already cooked you don't have to add to the dinner. You gave me raw
chicken that I can put in the freezer and have chicken for a few
weeks. It's such a great, so I'm actually gonna, that's a great
gift. Great, great gift. And it's very useful gift. So one of the
things that you're talking about, and one of the things that so
here's the controversial mistake. I think that men, if men were men,
this wouldn't be a problem. 100% is not controversial. Like,
there's this podcast. Yeah. This is not something that comes to the
male psyche naturally, which is what to want to like have a bunch
of stuff and collect things. And I'm not saying that there's not
men that are like there are there are like that there are.
But like that brother I'm telling you about. Everything changed when
he got married, because he got married. So now he had to have
more furniture, obviously, you have to have more things. And you
have to have a better TV and you have to get a bigger place to live
in. Yeah, and you have to this is if if left to our own devices. Men
would live in a simple four by four. Right with white walls.
Yeah, and like one thing to say one thing that
I'll take we you know the Sunnah of the prophets, I send them up
space, right? So I'll make a trade off space for stuff. Yeah, right
stuff. It's gone. And listen, here's the thing. What I do,
here's a trick for the for people out there. Anyone out there can be
moms could be dads, it could be husbands. Take the thing, put it
in the trunk of your car. Wait six weeks? wait two days, wait three
days? I guarantee you no one's gonna remember it. And at that
point, two months pass? You don't remember it. Tough luck. That's
it. It's over. You didn't remember it. Right? So it the value of it
is so low to you that it's been missing off the shelf for two
months. And you never thought about it. So I think a lot of it,
you know, not to psychoanalyze people, but I think a lot of it
comes from anxiety and fear of future not having, right. So like,
the other day, this just happened the other day, my wife, we were
going through a box, throw some stuff away that was in the box.
And there was a thing of shoelaces. Yeah. And my wife was
like, Do you want to do you want to do you want to keep these? And
I said no. Number one.
I've never I don't remember the last time that I changed
shoelaces. And when's the last time you needed shoe laces? It's
never happened in my adult life. But fine. Suppose that weird
emergency happens when I need shoelaces. Number one, those
probably won't match number two, I won't remember where they're at.
That's true. So like, just throw them out? Yeah, there's no way
that I'm keeping those shoelaces just in case I ever need a
shoelace for one of my shoes. So where does it come into though?
Like when you purchase something? And then like it has like the
monetary value, right? Like how do you just throw it out? I don't
throw it out. I take it to the Walgreens. And across the wall.
It's not the Walgreens it's Walgreens is there but area. It's
the park near that park in New Brunswick. Yeah. Okay, and there's
Sam's chicken across. It's a beautiful park. They take care of
it very well. And there's all sorts of there's homes, there's
different streets, there's a lot, it's a really busy area. I go, I
don't throw this stuff out. I put it in a garbage bag, I put it in
the trunk. Once that trunk fills up with a garbage bag fills up. I
drive in there 24 hours a day, there are human beings there 24
hours unless it's raining or snowing. I take it they now know.
And there's the beauty of it. This is really what I wanted. I want
them to associate our community of Muslims with benefit. Right? And
that's just how the Prophet would want it's not some kind of cheap
Dawa trick that's just how the Prophet would want Muslims to be
like we should be associated with people benefiting if you're in a
community the people should benefit from the presence if we if
we disappeared you know there are some communities most of them
disappeared nobody would even blink an eye no one would miss
any. We only would miss them the liquor store my clothes Yeah.
So we we go out there and we we put the stuff goes a dark joke.
Serious. My brother in law lives in Brooklyn. Yeah. Yeah. What
Muslims come in the liquor store closed the Muslims on the liquor
stores. Oh, no, no, he met he met the opposite way. Like the liquor
store would disappear. There's no more liquor store in the
neighborhood. Somebody else has to come in and open window. I didn't
realize that. Well, that's no good. No, that's horrible. I
thought you meant like the too many Muslims come in and the
liquor store? No, that would be a benefit. In England. They already
did a study I read that if the population of most
somes reaches 70% The pubs suffer, because people don't go to vote
because they don't.
That's because they got the hardcore folks over there. Yeah.
So but the thing is, you go out there to the greens, you put it
out there. And now we're collecting from people like we got
boxes or runs slowly will take up more and more time, because we
just got so much stuff to unload, right, and it's a free giveaway.
And it's this the disparity of haves and have nots, we know that
it's going to be there in the world, but this is how it should
end up. It should be constant bleeding from those whom Allah
blessed to those whom Allah has tested. So another another
addition to that, and one of the things that I think
philosophically can help you enact that there is something that I
read from one of those minimalism you know, getting rid of your
stuff gurus, the very popular one, the Japanese lady Marie Kondo,
Marie Kondo, she said that the way you have to think about it is, if
you have a thing that you're not using anymore, sure you spent,
say, $100 on it, and you're like, well, that's it's $100 thing, I
don't want to get rid of it, because I spent the $100 on it.
But at the day that you no longer use it, you're not benefiting, you
already spent that money, you're not getting it back.
So you have to you have to look at it like, okay, the use that I got
from it, or the joy that it gave me just to buy it, maybe I never
wore it, I bought a jacket, and then I never wore it. And now I
don't I can't fit it or whatever I don't, it's out of style, you got
your $100 Worth, when you bought it, you got that excitement, you
got that adrenaline rush, you got that, you know, serotonin and
whatever it is, and it's over, you're not going to benefit from
it anymore. And in fact, you're not only are you not benefiting
from keeping it anymore, even though you've paid for it, it's
actually harming you, because it's taking up space in your life and
cluttering your your environment. So getting rid of it is the final
step, you say Hamdulillah, I got my use out of that $100. And now
it's out of my life, because otherwise it's just garbage that
you're collecting. I have another technique and I didn't read that
book, a lot of people's recommended me to read the book,
but either good, I never read that book. But I had my own trick in
the downstairs closet, you know, the jacket closet, which becomes,
you know, in a place of a massive amount of stuff. So like, how am I
going to fix this situation, I came up with a situation, control
the hangers, I declared, I controlled the hangers, anything
on the floor is going to the homeless, right? So you everyone
gets an allotted number of hangers for the downstairs closet. If it's
on the floor, it's gone. And that forces them to at least take it
upstairs, right and realize that they have so much, right. So
there's got to be limits on stuff. Because if you just live if you
have a normal income, the amount of stuff that you can accumulate,
will literally, I had neighbors that were seeing that were some
older folks. And they were packing stuff. They were like packrats
when they moved out, the people have to bring a you know, a
container. They had to rent a container to dispose of stuff, a
container. That's how much stuff they had. It's crazy. And here's
the thing that I want to move away from actual stuff because
consumption could be other things than just stuff. Absolutely. One
thing before we move on to other stuff in general, is
even can the minimalist, like becoming minimalist is also a like
a form of consumption for people now, right? It's like a thing to
like Marie Kondo, you're just off?
Well, that's exactly what I want to bring up. And it's the heckum
from the Hekima webinar thought. And when you read this book, you
realize Subhanallah if all you need is a book and Arcada, your
manual of FIP and the heckum of Illuminata from the heckum of
empanada is that he says there there's something called made dead
and who's right and that is what he means by that the maybe the
easier way to put it as the abode of creation. And that human beings
left to their own devices will just obsess over will, will suck
on one type of creation or another. And it's and he in
another one he uses the example of the donkey that is going around
chasing his the barley that he's the donkey that they use to turn
the mill right so they put barley right in front of him. So he's
chasing it. And he doesn't realize he's just going in a circle,
right? So likewise, we have this may dan in the Foose this arena of
souls. It's just the attraction, our natural attraction to other
creative things. And we just go from one to another. And there are
types of people who are
maybe even in good things right so you'll see him get a law degree.
All right. He worked so hard get got a lodger it's good benefits
people. Next thing get a real estate thingy license. All right
now he sells homes. Next thing he's a marathon runner. Right? So
he's a that's actually fine. It's a accomplishment to accomplishment
to accomplish, but guess what? They're all created things. Like
he says leave the creative things and go to Allah subhanaw taala.
And that's where I think that this whole issue of consumption, this
is where it
The way we have to think about it, even like Moin just said, the idea
of being a minimalist, it's still a created matter of the dunya.
It's a matter of the world, right? It's an obsession of the world.
And Allah may test you with the opposite what if your mom moves in
with you and she's a packrat. Right now, you can't be a
minimalist, because Allah told you to take care of her and make her
happy, right? So so your true freedom is going from obsessing,
over created things, to obsessing to turning your attention to Allah
to Allah. Because you could be a minimalist in this, you could be a
minimalist in, let's say, fat versus fitness. You know, you
still have no food, and only you know, basic food and no material
that itself has becomes a thing. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. So
that's why consumption, we have to be careful. It's so many different
things. And there's another hikma I think,
not from even our thought, but from someone else. Oh, it was
Sophia never thought he Sofia had a thought. He said, you'll see a
man. He is a czar had food. He's his head and living space. He says
I hid in clothes. Okay, he's as I hid in his wealth, but touch his
reputation. Right? And he'll kill you. Right? So he's, he's not as a
hid in the reputation that he's is ahead. You see that out? How so if
you had to thought he was really perceptive that there are some
people who have worshipped, the concept of being is that he needs
he needs some zakat from his own. Exactly. So he hasn't actually
he's, he's he's worshipped the act of worship, or he's worship the
spiritual state, like the state of being is the state of
never being involved in the dunya. It's ahead. We call it and Islam
102. So if it's called the head, you don't worship the head. Yeah,
I mean, and the other thing is, if you're doing it, for the sake of
it, it could be a real, that's what it is. Yeah. And then so then
you don't have that hat at all. You're just play acting. That's
what it is. There's a trend of this, even in the secular world,
right? You see people all the time that take this consumption thing
and take the minimalism thing. It's like, Well, I'm a minimalist,
and be a minimalist, I'm a vegan, you know, because I'm a vegan they
have no, it's like that. I think I sent you that video, this woman
became, you know, she just became a meat eater. And like, now, she
was like, Oh, I've discovered the virtues of meat. And now she's no
longer a vegan. So she wasn't even doing it for the animals. Like she
was doing it. For doing it. Yeah. And it's the same thing with with
things like, oh, you know, I don't watch TV, I just read books.
Right? Or, you know, I'm all about fitness, I, you know, I work out,
you know, twice a day, I do X, Y, and Z. But it's all just for the
sake of the idea of whatever that thing is that you're doing even
people I mean, there's religious people like this, right? It's
like, oh, I'm a student, I read XY and Z books. I've devoured all of
these texts, people chase identities, right? So and, and
oftentimes, we do it without even knowing that we do it, right. It's
like, Oh, I've devoured all of these texts. And I can recite to
you, you know, from from this text in this text in this text in this
text, but it's like, is that at what point is that even
beneficial, that we actually have to the idea amongst students of
knowledge, it's not even a big I don't think it's a big thing for
Westerners. And it's not even a bad thing. But it it does become
an obsession, which is chasing SN need. Yeah, right chasing is Ned's
and I've seen people who I thought were very mature people, right?
And really, like, obsessing over us and eat, like, and the side of
it was that the discussion comes up in an inappropriate time. Like,
they're everyone else is sitting there. Nobody even has one Senate.
Right. And they are having a discussion about all your essay
need. And it's sort of like, almost to the point that you're
sort of making everyone else feel like trash. So that that shows me
that there is no balance there. Like there's no perception that
you have beyond your, your you've gone too far. Because you can't
even perceive that other people are sort of bothered by it. It's
almost like in a spiritual sense, talking about money, in a material
sense. Absolutely. You can't go in front of certain people and say,
Oh, well, guess what, I just bought a ranger over the head. And
then I'm gonna trade that in. When it's done. I'm gonna get the
latest Mercedes, right? You don't talk about that in front of
people. Right? Likewise, some of Misaki never had a chance to
study, you don't go and carry on about how many machines you
studied with, when he can't even there's not even a ship within the
same time zone as this guy. Right. So also, collecting accolades and
degrees and, you know,
different settings and different licenses to teach is that, yeah,
this is just another type of thing. You know, I wish I could
remember the name and I can't, but it was one of the automat of the
Maliki school from from the Maghreb, who his practice was to
take a hadith, memorize it, and then go off and contemplate it.
And he would think about it
And he would see how he applied it to his life. Find the places in
his life where he can, you know, enact that if it was something and
then he would come back and then take another Hadith. Yes, that's
it. There's weeks between each one. So I'm telling you, that's a
beautiful way of doing it if you thought it was only having learned
100 Hadith, he actually did something he acted upon instead of
being like, I've memorized all these books. Yeah. And what are
you doing besides memorizing books? That reminds me how you
sound like a computer? Yes. How Abdullah and Omar. So Kim, what
like, what was it 16 years to my my students of Bukhara. And
someone said, how he said, I will not memorize the next set of ads
until I practice the first one. So you literally have to drink it. It
has to marinate and Dean has to marinate, right?
Idea of compiling knowledge and reading so many books, deed or
otherwise, right? That reading so many books don't they all get
washed away at some point. Like when you see people that huge like
me, you notice I don't even have a big library in comparison to other
people in the field who have stacks. You know, what's his name?
Oh, and UCLA, Professor Khaled, our former travel, the top story
of his house has been transformed into stacks. Oh, like, like,
literally library stacks. Like he went and bought library stacks. He
might have read all those books. He read a lot, a lot. But he's not
going back to them. Yeah, I mean, the thing is that, to me, what's
the value of something is never the thing itself, the value of it
is the interaction of that thing with the real world now. That's if
you think about really the benefit of something. It's interacting
with it with the quote, unquote, real world.
A great example of this that I can give is actually with people. I'm
sure you guys all have friends like this, do you have a friend
who just has way too many friends, and you know that you're not
really important?
Like, I mean, there's people that you interact with, where you know,
the interact, interaction is just not valuable because of how many
interactions they've had, they have on a daily basis, right?
Where they have so many friends that you really just don't matter.
Not that they don't genuinely, you know, like your friendship, but
it's just they have so many, that it's just it just yeah, it's just
invaluable, right? I'm sure you guys know exactly what I'm talking
about knows that he has a friend like I know exactly what you're
talking about. And there are some people who as a phrase that they
say, is Oh, it's so so happy to see you. It's a bunch of nonsense,
right? Because you never call, right? If I call you never pick
up, right. And you know, everyone goes through a phase in their life
when they're trying to make friends, or they're impressed by
somebody, especially when you're younger, right, you're impressed
by someone you're chasing after them sort of, you feel that
there's somebody be some benefit by being around them. And they
don't return your calls, right? They don't return your texts or
emails or anything. But then when they see you, I guess they're
embarrassed. So they say something really nice. But you don't like
that's a total lie. It I feel this a lot, especially you know, since
I live in South Jersey, where there's not that many Muslims
around. And so the the few that aren't around, I mean, we know
each other very, very well. And so I know we used to joke around,
it's like, some guy was busy. It's like, you know, what were you busy
with? Because you weren't with us, you don't seem to have family
problems going on. So you know, what were you doing? Right?
Whereas I know when when I'm when I moved up here was very
different, right? Interacting with people, because it's like, you
didn't get that same cozy feeling where it's like, okay, this person
clearly has time for you. And they're really around. And so I
think the same can be applied when it comes to human beings, you can
apply that to a lot of other things, right? It's the there's
value in the little things, right? You know, in my defense.
I actually
the type of person that I genuinely liked the people that
I'm friends with, and I'm friendly with what I like I get along with
most people, there's
maybe a handful, maybe six people that Muslims that I can think of
that I generally don't like, yeah, and that's my fault. I should
work. Well, I hope I'm not one of them. No, you're not. You're not
closer, you would know I would never even speak to you. But aside
from those few that handful of muscles, I truly, genuinely feel
like everyone is my my brother, and some people you like more than
others, right? Like I hang out with you guys, I actually come
this is a big deal for me to come out and actually be in person with
people. I don't do that. I tend to not be I tend to not socialize
with other people like that. Now, because I'm not a social person.
In fact, the opposite. You know, you put me in the room, I walk
around the circle, I say something to everybody. I sit down, I ask
about their families, but it is genuine, but you might call me and
I'm not gonna want to hang out. When I went when I made the
statement that you know, I definitely don't think it's not
genuine. Right? The people that I'm talking about, I think they're
actually very genuine. They're very sincere with the people that
they meet and, and I think they, they they sincerely talk to and
interact with people. However, they just do so much of it. Right
because of their profession or just you know, the way that they
are that you know that your interaction is just not special.
It's not
It's not that it's not that they don't, they don't genuinely try to
do to meet with you. But it's like when you meet like a politician,
for example, they just meet so many people. It's just, it's just
not important, right?
So my thought where I was going with that is I think the idea of
consumption is
where do we draw the line? So one, one thing that I had earlier in my
notes is when it comes to food, for example, yeah. You have like
food critics, you have like, luxury. You have like luxury
eating. Where does Islam draw the line? For those things? Is there a
form of art that can be food is a form of consumption that can be
art?
Masterpiece cake?
Well, I mean, the question is sort of like all the odfi stuff, all
the artifice stuff, but what are the pious Muslims who pray five
times a day in the masjid? They're gonna determine for that township
or that region or that part of the world, they'll determine the norm.
Right. But what do you do in like, we live in almost like a global
monoculture. What do you mean in terms of in terms of for example,
if you live in
our area, let's say Central Jersey, okay. Which I know Alex
doesn't think is a thing, but it's a
it's a it's an invalid statement by the governor, but it actually
is by No, it'd be like the first correct thing he ever said.
But there's limits on there's going to be a clear you're going
to differ by going around to the different massage. You'll get an
idea where Muslims
prize praying Muslims feel that something is too much or too
little. So a lot of sweets. Yeah.
You think so? I don't know if I agree with why No, because there's
definitely going to be you're gonna find extremes. You're gonna
if you go to if you for if you spend 10 years, let's say from a
kid is 10 years old till he's 20 years old. He's gonna go to
weddings, funerals. What you guys called Javits.
Invitations basically what that was, so it's no Javits no doubts,
okay.
You have those invitations, he's gonna go to his friends, homes for
from high school and college, you're, just by default, going to
get an idea of where the pretty rich people are at where the
pretty not rich people are at and where everyone else is in the
middle. So just by living, you get an idea of where the where the
bookends are. And what is the balance balance is avoiding both
extremes. That's it. So you really need to know the extremes. But do
we, in the modern world already live at an extreme but that
doesn't make a difference. We're not doing the ante a historical
comparison. You don't have to be balanced across the centuries.
That's not balanced. So now is your question like, What is the
halal haram limit limit of that Islam set for consumption and save
food? Like short? What is what is beyond the bounds? Sure. I mean,
it's pretty open right? Okay, food Yeah, it's it's pretty open I
think I mean, you can eat a whole ship every day if you want.
There's a difference between eating a whole sheep every day
that you slaughtered versus versus going to like you know, roots
Steakhouse in Philly. And you know,
I just totally reference I mean, like not not not not in the books
effect there isn't right like you eat within your means eat so that
you don't harm your health. And other than that, it's up to you
you know, there's there's difference between what is halal
haram and what may be spiritually better for you. What, whatever
angle you're taking for, for your fitness or for your nutrition, you
might have a medical need, but in terms of Hassan Haram as long as
the animal is slaughtered correctly, and
has basically yeah, I mean, you're gonna have the that that's, that's
the thick of it. And all these things are, why the machete three
Katana Samba,
our path is Samba because the spiritual path is really, in fact,
different in these regards. every century, every decade, right?
There was a time where, you know, if you had a certain amount of
entertainment, or you know, in a day or in a week was considered
Europe often, right? Today, if you're doing that type of
entertainment, and it's Hedda, your Asada, because you're not
doing like *, right? Think about this, if you had a if
you had a bunch of 17 year old kids, and they prayed I show in
the message. Then they went home, and they watched like a movie that
did not have any skin in it, and played video games, okay, and then
fooled around and eat chips all night, and then went back to
fetcher for the messages in the messenger to pray and then went to
sleep. What would you call those kids today? The best kids.
What would those kids be called in the 70s? No total total.
Weird oh yeah total like like soy burnouts. Like, you'd be like What
are you smoking dope? Right so that same type of same thing
transported 33 decades that's why there is no point in these trans
century you know continental comparisons with ourselves there's
no point so that's why 30 cuts on a song but how do we know where's
the basic good and bad is by being around other people. Okay, so
let's take away the historical comparison. If I were to ask you
how many pairs of shoes should a man own that can differ that can
differ across this table is going to differ. Let me tell you what,
I'm going to tell you he should have wedding shoes. Wedding slash
our wedding shoes shiny nice shiny shoes. Okay, right. He should have
the type of shoes that he would wear he could wear with like
Dockers types pants and with jeans that are nice shoes, you know,
when you wear a blazer with jeans, and those shoes. Okay, so that's
true. That's true. He should have a pair he could have a pair of
sneakers if he wants nice sneakers, and work sneakers. So
that's three. That's the nice sneaker that you you could wear
those sneakers with the jeans and the blazer. And then you have your
work sneaker that you're going to do gardening you're going to do
sports? And then really That's five. That's for shoes, no for
Okay, for what about like sandals or? And then okay, if you're going
to have sandals, they're fine. You can have two types of sandals, the
sandals for the house. The two sets ships that you're gonna get
from Target, right? And then you're gonna have your fancy
chandeliers that you wear with the soap. Okay, so let's say that's
five and a half because that was two cent sandals that you you know
those two cents bathroom will do sandal type of thing. That's half
so you're so let's say you're at six right? You have you have four
people in the house. I that's only men I didn't count women, let's
say FOB was that's already 24 pairs of shoes before people. The
women have a different situation on shoes, though. I say I'm just
I'm just throwing out numbers. I'm not. I'm not saying anything.
Right. So when it comes to shoes
this is this is a this is a top shoes are probably more important
than the rest of your outfit. At least in modern clean wear them
every day, right? So you have to have
a nice pair of like so the nice the wedding shoes, like dress you
that you can wear with a suit, something that you would wear to a
job interview or if you were going to court or something. So you need
a pair of those in black and brown. Okay, you're right about
that. And that's exactly why I cut out all the brown I know your
district
that needs two belts, two socks, two shoes, right? Yeah. To then
then you need the casual, the more casual shoe you also need those in
each color. So that's four right there. And right now you're just
on shoes. Then you need so the sandals, we'll throw in one or two
of those. You have to probably have three different types of
sneakers. Minimum because you have some that you have to do athletic
stuff and some are that just for wearing like casually with like
pants or jeans or whatever. And then the the dirty ones that you
do for whatever work okay, then you're gonna need boots for the
winter. I forgot about boots. I do not own a pair of boots. Yeah, you
need boots to shovel the snow. How are you going to sell it? Yeah,
you need boots? winter boots. You also need
what? How are you going to shovel the snow? You know you what do you
what are you wearing? In the six other hair?
No one's gonna get on your ankles. No, you have to get those Walmart
boots. You get them once in your life. It's like 25 bucks,
literally five inches of rubber. You know, it's like five inches of
rubber
boots. You don't even have to tie them. They're so high. And they're
so warm to you buy that once a for your life. See, you've now seen
the problem. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna need some hunting shoes,
some hunting boots because you got whatever hiking. Why can't the
other boots work for the hunt, because they're not comfortable
for walking miles and you need stuff that you're comfortable. You
can walk around in the woods and climb over, you know, enemies and
stuff in a knot hills and why couldn't those boots just be used
for the snow? Or is this a different type of the snow boots.
By the way, if you really want to get into it. I have spring, spring
summer Woods boots, and winter wood that neither one of those are
used for shoveling snow, nor the ones that I'm wearing right now.
Do I use for shoveling?
So I'm personally I'm probably at like that I were in rotation.
There's stuff I have to throw up but then I want rotation at least
1515. Okay, but but you've identified each function. I'm not
even one of those guys. Yeah, I'm like a regular guy. 15. Now, this
is the same dude that actually owns hunting boots. So I mean,
that's, well, here's the thing going in the woods. No, no, no,
I'm saying that this is a compliment, like brown and black
thing was a big deal for me. Yeah, it was a big deal. I lose once I
discovered and by the way, for a long time. I never knew anything
about clothes, I would have stuck with brown instead of a black
shirt. more versatile. See, I when I was in my study phase, I didn't
I didn't know anything about anything. I really had no clue
about fashion until someone once told me listen to it.
The socks the shoes, the belts has to be one color. You know that I
like learned that it's not something that I learned that
like, middle of life like maybe when I was 25 or something, and oh
and the watch. Could you believe that? I had never had a clue I
would put on anything that was called close I just put it off.
Mashallah, but then when I discovered this, I think it was
seven. Kenan one time. We were in a hotel, and he were in an
elevator.
And he was going around for a tour to institute doing Dawa and he was
actually was to leave already. And he looked at me he just shook his
head. He always dressed nice. Always nice nice right? Mashallah.
So,
mela heal him from his sickness. But once I learned that, that
became a big headache. Huge headache. To the point I said that
I can't do this. I'm not doing this anymore. Like it takes me 10
minutes to get dressed. All the pants won't color. All the shirts
won't color. All the belts won't color. All the socks won't color.
All the shoes won't color. Right. And my dad, he got me to get
involved with gray. Because my dad lives in Toms River, which is
right in front of Lakewood lake right under Lakewood. Lakewood has
a bigger population of rabbinical schools than is America and
Israel. Same number six. Yeah. Say anyone's you're wearing a black
suit with a white shirt. Yeah. So every time I'd wear my black
blazer with a white shirt and black pants, like most people here
wouldn't think twice about it. But he's very conscious of it. Because
every day seeing them, right? And he's like, Oh, you look like
instead of Joe. Alright, and I was just laugh it off. So he got me
aware that then I said, Alright, I gotta stick some gray in there
somewhere just to keep it within the scheme. But to avoid. And the
thing is, this is not about one of these fashionista type of people
who are annoying. It's about efficiency. I'm not taking 10
minutes to find my clothes in the morning. Right? I'm literally
picking out whatever's clean. From one shelf, the other shelf and the
other drawer. It takes me literally 60 seconds to pick out
the clothes every morning. I've done efficiency. I've done the
same thing with my work for work clothes, only black shoes every
day. And the only colors that were a gray and blue and white. Yeah.
Because you can match those are that any? Any works. So I'm sure
you're you're a college student. I'd like to hear your thoughts on
how ridiculous Yeah, I was trying to, I don't know, I was trying to
like, stay back on my shoes. Because, I mean, I went through a
phase. Because I guess like three years out of high school is like
not that long ago. So I was I was a collector, I guess you can say
collector of Jordans.
It was expensive nonetheless. Right? And then like when you go
into like conversations of the Messiah keen, and it just hurts
like internally. Because like, you just have so much stuff. And then
you see the value. That's why I was so hooked on like the value of
those things that I bought. And now it's just getting personal.
It's like the things that I bought, like, will that value,
kinda like stay there, you know. And then it also goes into like
being like a simple person. Like, I have red Jordans, I have the
blue Jordans. And then I have the white ones and then the black one.
So like every outfit has to match. And that was the phase that I was
going through. Like now I'm wearing my gym shoes. Like, you
know what I mean? Like it just doesn't hate Listen, for some
people who have little things like that. If you're doing your living
well, otherwise, I don't want to go to an extreme and say like,
this stuff is like you're like I don't deserve to exist. Yeah,
exactly. Exactly. It's like if someone's given their subject like
gives. Yeah, I think collecting yachts and collecting certain
watches that are $5,000 That's where you're getting to a
ridiculous level. But But what bleep? Why is that ridiculous?
What's that? Why is collecting a yacht? Or because it's because for
us we consider it ridiculous. Depends on your depends on your
income level and stuff like that. Right? Yeah, the reaction, the
reaction to it. If you were to go, and we were to have, let's say 15
Guys, yeah, that we all know. And someone will and you were to say I
have five Jordans. That's not really a big deal. But if you were
to say I have five watches each watch cost $5,000 We'd say like
Bro, that's absurd. There's people that we know and we see regularly
who we're friends with that have like what they say it gives, they
wouldn't be embarrassed. They don't know when they get around
those guys that also have Rolexes and Invictus and stuff they start
talking about there's a group
I mean, they're probably all in one field it means
that it has nothing to do with watching
but it mashallah was blessed with a lot of a lot of a lot of wealth.
This is why actually believe it or not, I was thinking the other day
about the dictum of terracotta Sahaba. This what Samba is our is
our is the path. The path is samba with people of Taqwa there were
people that stuck with in the masjid, which is a public space,
right? And there are people of Topo are all types of people. It
actually pulls you out
Out of this idea of hanging out with the people of your
profession, this is actually a very bad it's, it has a lot of
negative impacts, like doctors, with doctors, lawyers, with
lawyers, even let's say mosaddek with Michel Imams with this as a
really negative impact because your your vision of priorities
becomes totally skewed of reality becomes totally skewed. Right?
Whereas when you're in when you're Safa is regular people of the
mosque, you're gonna have the millionaire, and you're gonna have
everyone else, and you're gonna have the miskeen, who is like the
ward of the community, because we have to take care of him. Because
he's just, he'll never pick himself up, and we accept that
class will take care of him. We have those people, by the way, all
right. shipmaster knows them all. He's got his list of Guys, guys,
some very old, some not, we just know they will never pull it
together. And we've come to realize that accept it, and hold
us that's how the community gets their sins forgiven from them. By
taking care of this family.
That gives you a perspective, right? And what you can't say
there is probably most there is resembles reality, then what you
can or can't say, with a group of surgeons or a group of lawyers or
whatever, that's actually true.
For my shirt, I just have, you're not married right? Now. Alright,
so this is off topic, but on topic. This is actually 100% on
topic. Dress, nice, buy expensive clothes that you can have if you
can afford it, buy nice stuff and get opinions from like your
cousins and your sisters in your if you have young aunties, right?
Trust me, it's a huge, it's a huge benefit. It's going to be a huge
benefit to your life. As you walk into the next phase mental health
meant so much of mental health is ironing your clothes, and doing
your bed in the morning and cleaning your room and your
kitchen. It actually produces a change in a person's mental
situation and emotional situation when they're clean. And I always
look at it like this. Think about this. Here we are in a non Muslim
land. We got all this hill in front of us and all this fits in
in front of us. I mean, someone to spend a lip for Muslims just spent
a little bit more than usual on appearance. He's already dealing
with so much nonsense, let's get some snack. It's also son and it's
also a certain a toe. So the province I sent him was never seen
except that he looks well like he never looked unkempt. And this is
some people say this is the reason why we sort of currently never
made it to become a hobby. They said that so that his path is not
considered a sunnah. Because if it will, if he was just a hobby, his
path of living homeless, eating from the garbage, That's literally
how he lived, never marrying, never settling down, always just
on the road and being homeless, like that is not one of our
students. Right. And that's one of the wisdoms. Some people say he
never make him as a hobby, because you do have those people. But you
shouldn't try to be like that the nafs is very attracted to that
sometimes, oh, the neffs can be attracted. And we have our own
way. So currently in our community, right, like, you know
who it is, we have an old man who is our waist Academy. He didn't do
it by design. He's the life jammed him into that lifestyle. And he
lives like that, and he pops up, you know, every few months, and he
disappears every few months. Right? And he is the baraka of the
community and the word of the community and like, like, that's
his thing, right? He, that's how he lives. And if you ask him, he
never planned that he probably doesn't even know always that
we're currently in it, what his story is, like, such a good guy,
though. It's such an amazing man full of Baraka. Yeah. So in terms
of, like, there were the like, the phases specifically with me, like
going to. So at first I went to community college, and then like
just going to community college, it was more like, it wasn't really
the friendships, I would say it was more of just like getting
through that to go to the university life.
But within the community college life, I went through a phase and I
feel like a lot of college students might connect where it
was kind of you were going towards because it was a first college
experience, you're going towards that life where Islam is really
not present. Right? And then like you're trying to consume all these
all this knowledge and all this information about the exact
opposite lifestyle, right? Because everyone you're gonna make friends
in terms of right, you're gonna make that they're just going to be
usually not Muslim. And they have when you try to connect to the
MSA, that's just an entirely different story.
And then with me specifically how I got over that was trying to look
better, right like trying to like feel better by just like
appearance wise, right? Like, you know, oiling my beard like that
was the thing that I'm very nice like I'd like to have like oil and
like a comb my beard just for the personal kind of helps your
mindset and it helps you like present yourself as a Muslim. Like
you know, because it because I like now specifically because I do
like I do daily reminders on Instagram, right? Like I do, just
like Islamic reminders. And it just it just helps like, with me,
like I guess if you're in a public eye, right? It just helps when
you're looking better and
You know, you're known as the Muslim. Not that you want to look
like that, but you're just known as the Muslim. So that's just, I
mean, we there's so much negative PR, though that, you know,
reverse. Yeah, that would not harm us at all. Of course. Yeah. I'm
telling you, I had a friend who was unemployed in England, and he
was so miserable. I just couldn't get a job. So he was so depressed
I said, man, what are you going to do? He's like, so one day he I saw
him getting dressed up I said, Oh, he got an interview. He said, No,
I'm so down. And in France is a trick is you get dressed up, you
shit. You do trimmers, your beard, you shave properly. You get a
haircut and you just walk in the streets. And that's how you pick
yourself up because people actually look at you like you're
important. That was you start feeling better about Yeah, that
was one of the things one of the parts of Elijah Muhammad's program
was to look clean and neat and dress dress the part Oh, you have
to total to combat the negative stereotypes and propaganda. So
let's outline some topics on consumption. Okay, so like food,
what are the what are the parameters food, three meals a
day? If you want to talk about it, because the autumn I have spoken
on this? Yes, they said the prophets eaten once a day. If that
the sleight of hand eat twice a day. The rest of people and
animals eat three times a day. So that's Max and has to be halal,
me. It's gotta be halloumi still people today 2020 Eating not
eating. Right. And someone asked me what exactly is how that meat
the other day in the restaurant that's been playing with us for
years. Right? So they didn't realize that this is not a sunnah
it's not a min Dube. It's not what are the animal must be slaughtered
properly with the neck right by the neck, the two blood vessels
and different you know, cut by the neck. Okay? And the name of Allah
mentioned on it, and you may eat kosher you can consume kosher
food, it's allowed for us to do that to cook kosher meat. So
that's a necessity. No Popeyes chicken sandwich Popeyes chicken
sandwich which is not Hello. It's out. Okay. does not tell you?
Yeah, it's not. Alright. Um, clothing within it has to do with
your amount of the amount of risk that you have clothing? That's a
good question. I mean, what would you answer be on clothing? Because
I would say closet. That's it? What do you need? Well, no, I
mean, I mean, in terms of like, the level of clothing, right,
yeah. So like, I was returned to the narration from Omer revelon.
When they saw the man he was dirty and tried to give her money. Yeah.
And he said, No, I have no, I have money. He said, well, then spend
it on your clothes and dress nice. Or even Malik, who always looked
no sort of in smelling good and dressing Nice. Oh, he said that
Subhan Allah.
The smell. We know the prophets I said and said there's no stuff in
it. Now the I don't know medic, and send it out to close because
medic was always sharply dressed for a reason. I may be
interpolating, maybe it was just he was quoting the prophet. He
might understand. So always dressed very nice. He always
dressed nicely. And he said that there were in a time where the
people respect the Amir's more than the Imams. So he actually was
combating that, right. So imagine what it is today. Right?
I think people should just their profession. Surgeons, if you're a
surgeon, and you're going to cut up cut me up, I hope you're coming
in a luxury car, right? Because if you're coming in like a Honda, and
you're wearing Dockers,
I'm wondering why you're not more successful,
you're gonna cut me up. If you're a trial lawyer, you're a gangster,
basically, you should be dressed in an intimidating way, you should
come up reflecting that if you're a real estate agent, we know that
real estate agents have to have a luxury car to actually write it
off as a part of their job as a tax deduction. Right? So you
should dress your role. Now, if you're shaking the message, there
is something weird about a shift in the message coming up in some
kind of like mazaraki It just doesn't. It's not it's not haram,
it just doesn't fit the, what we perceive, even if, like, say you
come from wealth.
You know, maybe not. I mean, the thing is that when you deal with
people,
it is sort of awkward, you know, that shirk is his job function is
a middle, he should be middle, he should not be poor. Because that
may he's needy, that means he might, you know, you know, treat
people better for further charity or something, and he should not
look so much that he intimidates the folks that are around him, so
So I would say there's a middle of a Imams that people have
scholarships should be in the middle. So I'm gonna disagree on a
couple of things. And not just disagreeing for myself because I
know this is a really, you know, personal like it could it could
this thing could differ person to person. And, and it's also a
matter of, you know, somebody listening from, you know,
Australia might have a completely different take on this than
someone listening from New York City or someone listening from
Kansas right. And so for example, I would have no issue with you
know, my surgeon walking in, you know, in, you know, a Prius and
Dockers, I would have no issue with that as long as you know that
person is
so like
I said that if he wants an electric vehicle, he should at
least be a Tesla.
So that so that's person to person, right? Like that wouldn't
bother me at all. I'd be like, Okay, does he have the
credentials? He's done in the past surgeries like, is he? Is he
successful in his profession? If he chooses not by, you know if he
chooses not to buy a Tesla Roadster that's cool with like,
you know, that's, I believe, I don't know, maybe my thinking is
bizarre. If he's cheapo on his pants. He might be cheapo in the
room. Like, I don't want to use 20 bandages. How do you know he's
not? How do you know? He's only How do you know he's cheap? Why
are you why he's wearing like, cheap. Like, if he looks like he
shops at Kohl's? Listen, if you need a surgeon, if you're pulling
15 grand a month, right? That's nothing. That's nothing more than
that they're pulling more than that. Right? If he's pulling 20
and 25 grand a month, and you're buying pants, and you choose the
$30.29 $99 pin over the 59 $99 Pant, there's something wrong in
your head. If that $30 mate matters to you that much. Right?
When you're pulling 25 grand, I'm just saying like that would like
because I see it like I'm in tech, right? And I see it all the time.
Like I see my VP who was like,
that's so this is what the only thing right? So the next category
I was gonna say when you were saying Doctor, is it, you were in
it, you have to wear a t shirt, you actually have to wear vans
down. Yeah, you might not cut your hair on a regular schedule. This
is how I go into work. And I'm probably like, well dressed from
my office, which you emphasize that your UX or whatever, it's
whatever not it, um, software. Now it to me is a Toyota or Honda.
Okay, because they see New Balance,
New Balance sneaker, like Lee Jeans, or Wrangler Jeans. Yeah,
these are these are guys. Remember.
If you're in it, even if you're like a white, if you're a white
guy, or a black guy, or whatever, and you're in it, or you're in
tech, somehow, you're probably not you don't care, your mind is on
other things. So you don't really look at the clothes that you wear.
And you might not even match your outfits and you probably somewhere
on the spectrum anyway, yeah. And I can tell you that he doesn't
deal with a customer, right? Face to face. Now here's the thing
about the surgeon that surgeons go into hospital events, he's going
to comfort medical conferences, and he's seeing his peers by
nature. By nature of human nature, you need to be similar to your
peers, when that guy has five Rolexes I'm not even mad at him,
Oh, it's not damage. Because think about this. If he if this guy goes
to medical conferences, he goes to other invitations with his medical
group. He goes to hospital party at the end of the year. And he
sees all these people with all these that norm of medical, you
know, standard of living. And he still goes against the grain that
much to wear Dockers and drive a Prius. He has a problem. He's a
contrarian, right? He has an issue, and I'm not gonna go and
investigate him anymore. To cut up my body, right and open me up. I
mean, he's wrong. You're probably I mean, this I can agree with.
It's,
and one thing you brought up, like, for example, I work in
engineering now. Right. And I know before I used to work in product
management, and I see the stark differences in one of my co
workers, but also in myself as my role has, you know, now now that I
work on the engineering side, it's like, I don't care anymore because
I don't talk to people anymore. Right? I do my own thing. I come
into work and, and I'll see you later.
And it's interesting because that also influences my worldview about
other people. So it's like, I want to it's all free. It's it's it's
also your own profession. Like I know a doctor is probably judging
all tech people like oh, these people don't dress well. They're
always like, I know Alex probably judges all tech people, and I
don't
I mean, not incorrectly anyway.
So but let's so now so that was clothing. So let's say vehicles.
Wait, before we get to Can I give you one more thing? So take take
an academic a college professor. They should dress nice. They
should be they should they should look nice. But you don't want him
coming in in like
a gray suit that has a little bit too much sheen to it. Have a
really sharp tie some really nice shoes. Yes, train his hairs well
quaffed you're gonna be like, Is this guy a professor? Or? Or is he
a lawyer or a salesman? What's going on here? So like, even on
the small details, it makes it there. There's a congruence thing.
Now here's the thing. What if you have a lawyer if you're going to
lawyers, and he's you're signing off to get a house or whatever,
and that lawyer is not well kept in that you can tell that like his
hair is not done right? Hair, so that's a sign of lack of care
about details. Now what about if he doesn't care about details on
his hair or his suit or his office? How do I know he kept the
care of the details in my contracts probably didn't. So
there is a reason when
In a subconscious reason of why these two things sort of are
congruent or incongruent, Like Alex said, wouldn't if you have a
professor in school, you actually want him to be a mad scientist,
look, that's culturally what we've come to expect. But there's a
reason for that wearing a tweed and corduroy that he's so
engrossed, is so engrossed in his fields, that in terms of the mad
scientist type, so engrossed in his field, that he's thinking so
much that he can't tie up time to think about whether to push her to
pull the door, or how to comb his hair. That's for the mad
scientist. Now, that type of literature guys, it's a guilt,
they dress a certain way, by him dressing that way, I get the
feeling that he's part of that guilt. Every profession, every
field has its own look to it, right? And this is something that
is a bit odd in our world. It's become a norm. In the time of the
prophets, I send them the clothes you went to war with the clothes
you give the hook to with the clothes you bought and sold with
the clothes you heard the sheep with is one garment. That's their
life, but we don't compare it to the house another. Yeah, it's
fine. It's gonna be a MOBA, at least, at least. Yeah, I think
this is one topic that one area of the idea of consumption that I
think Dr. Shetty brought up, and I think Duxton has brought this up
not just with consumption, but other topics as well, is you can't
live in this like fairytale past of, you know, this is what the
people of old were like, and, and this is what we need to be like
today. Because the world changes. Islamism is a is a adaptive
religion that changes you know, with the people and the times and
that's, that's one of the
great positives of our deen and our school in our fitness, right?
And when a true a lot of kind of fees and even some mannequins with
Delta,
there is something about congruence in your appearance that
has a real it's really important. It's really necessary and it
affects your Dawa, and it affects the way that you present the deen
to people in life. If you're going to have long hair and a big beard,
then dressing flowy clothes,
right, you should be wearing thongs and shalwar kameez and
stuff like that. If you have like a like a real big beard and you
have like you keep your hair long. It doesn't look good with a suit
doesn't look good with like, a shiny long sleeve t shirt that
people wear to a club like it looks ridiculous. By the same
token, if you're like neatly trimmed and we'll call and you're
walking around with a thought of all the time, I grow your beard a
little bit, maybe let your hair grow like you the things the two
things have to match. Yeah, the congruence stuff. Because if now
you look like you're wearing a costume
you're confused. Yeah, civilizations, right? Like you're
mature of a civilization living in another civilization Shubham
Jacobi when he was in MBSE a few years ago, he said that one of the
things that he dislikes to see is people taking Islamic clothes from
different cultures and mixing them up. That's actually a pet peeve of
mine. Yeah, like to be thorough with a Palestinian scarf. Yeah,
it's like, you know, when you watch old 90s movies, where
they're showing the Arabs or the Muslims, and they clearly costume
designer was not hired from the right
was with the Palestinian scarf with the Afghans? Yeah, exactly.
Or shalwar kameez with the blazer that is my absolute I think that's
become a thing though. Jordan and PAL and Pakistan this close with
the blazer? But it's it's it's a thing for a different meaning.
It's sort of like we've accepted the colonization
it's like the colonization is in us.
It's like the it's like the the pointed collar on a foe. Yeah.
What are you wearing a tie with that? Why would you have that?
About the one where it I think was the Oh, what was one of it? So I
had Dean and Orlando blue.
I know what that's
so what was that? 2001 or something like that. So in that
they clearly filmed it in Morocco. You know, they filmed it in
Morocco. All the extras are where Moroccan clothes Palace is all
have Moroccan symbols of the Elmo. Robert dynasty, right? That level
of Ilala that it's almost like you have to actually suspend any sense
of history, if you know any art history.
Or any sense of what kind of geometric designs fit with what
civilization to pretend that you're in Palestine for that
movie. And anybody that doesn't have a familiarity with that
movie. It's like having something set in like 18th century England,
right? Or 19th century right Industrial Revolution time, but
they're all dressed like French, like French people during the
1600s Yeah, exactly. Like what do you know? And then the writing is
in French. Or it's like someone with the French socks? Yes. That
sounds cool. Yeah, and a tie from continent to different centuries
different continent.
So yeah, there's there's an importance to the congruence of
your look, you got to go all in. Yeah is the congruence of the look
is something that sort of reflects a type of wholesomeness of person
and we're in authenticity. And if you're not pretending, yeah, and
here's the thing is that we're a people. Now Islam is, comes to
civilizations, there's no specific thing called Islamic culture,
right? There are cultures, and Islam comes to that culture and is
their religion, right? And then we'll tweak a few things here and
there. So for example, in our Western culture, one thing that we
would tweak is tight pants. For men. It's a macro, if it's skin
tight is haram. Because coverage, the meaning of coverage has two
conditions last shift, while SF, which means it's not transparent,
and it's not form fitting. If you're, if it's transparent, or
it's form fitting, you are covered, your Salah is invalid,
and even is sinful to even go out into the public with those images.
Or with that with that dress and wear a shirt. That's not like when
you when you when you make some good doesn't drift.
Yeah, show me your back. Yeah, there was a sheikh who was really
funny Palestinian chick that he used to say to all the brothers in
the masjid, please, your shirts are coming up, right? And he said,
From now on, every time if you can't afford it, every time I see
someone is back, I'm gonna put a nickel in there.
Put a nickel in the crack. So since you gave me a slot,
you can't afford clothes, right? So I'm putting a nickel in there.
And they actually made plumbers shirts for them. Because the other
industry have field of people that are on their hands and knees that
are on their hands and knees and their rear. Their back is shown
all the time as plumbers. So there's a there's a company by
them, called the plumbers cert, or whatever the company is called. By
the way, I'm gonna offer a bit of practical advice to people who
might find themselves in that situation. Yeah, sorry. I'm
Wayne's mom's probably call him. When you're when you're when
you're in SOA, and you know that your shirt is maybe a little bit
shorter. Your pants don't stay up. Well, before you go in before you
you prostrate. Pull your pants up. Like if you're a man. Grab your
pants from the front by your pockets. Yeah, pull them up.
Before Saturday. Yeah, and it'll keep the it'll keep the pants from
pulling down in the shirt from coming up. It's just a simple
little trick. Yeah.
That's, that's just like a trick is not like, Okay, so for a long
time, right? A lot of my, I believe cousins and also right,
they thought it was like, like a condition of sulla to like, do
that to like your pants. Pull your pants up or like, show your ankles
or something. But just before should you Yeah, no, no, it's to
keep your is to keep your back from being exposed. Yeah, it's
just to keep your pants from being pulled down. Yeah, I think people
are civilizations are what they are. And I take life to be what it
is. And you're just going to adapt a few tweaks here and there. But
you got to sort of not be ridiculous in the sense of
this issue of congruence that people should have a sense of how
they're looking. It's just not this is not an artsy fartsy thing
or a superficial thing, or, you know, something that should be
pushed on the side. Especially now you want to talk about going and
doing Dawa, at least you got to be someone that I could look at.
Well, like I think there are some people, the Muslim himself and as
a Muslim to a Muslim, I can't look at him.
I can't look at him and enjoy what I'm looking at. Right? Because
it's so incongruent. It's so not caring, there was no attention
given to it. Okay, that how are you supposed to do Dawa. And
that's why one of the attributes of all Prophets was, they were
whispering that they were, their faces did not have any blemish in
it that would make people not want to look at, and I'm not even
talking about looks, I'm saying in general, you should be able to be
kept welcomed enough that people could look at you and for youth,
when we're talking about youth acting up and being crazy.
Sometimes it's just like, there's no self esteem, they don't take
care of themselves. And they're sloppy. So their mind is sloppy,
their life is out of order. It's all starts with your old self. If
you can't take care of your own self, then how are you going to
take care of anything else?
So, so I'm not going to quote off the names, but I remember him
teaching us a principle oftentimes, in fact, where there
are many times in fic, and not just in fit, but also in matters
of the soul, where there isn't a clear cut black and white rule.
And if your knifes is pure, right, and your knifes is clean, he used
to tell us that, you know, oftentimes in these situations,
you're not as the greatest Mufti. Right, that that is not everything
in the Dean has a rule, right? And oftentimes, you come across a
situation for example, like we said, the number of shoes that a
person should own like I think we could all agree that probably
depends on your profession, your background, your lifestyle. If
you're knifes is pure and clean, right?
Your knifes is the greatest movie of the when it comes to examples
like this when it comes to consumption of food when it comes
to consumption of entertainment when it comes to consumption of
other things, all of the guidelines that we have in our
deen are set. We knows what we know what those general guidelines
and principles are, I think the Hichem that you mentioned earlier,
Dr. Shetty, which is, you know, that you should go towards Allah
in your consumption, right? When you when you take out the dunya
and you go towards Allah, that's when you know, everybody knows
that, in order to, for example, spread Dawa. If you're going you
should look nice, right? But that that is not in pursuit of the
dunya that is actually in pursuit of Allah. Right. So your goal in
and of itself is different. And when your goal is Allah, it's not
the consumption. That's important. It's Allah. That's important.
Right. I think there's another hikma that he says that, if you
view everything as coming from Allah subhanaw taala, take what
you want. That's a beautiful ACHEMA from me, but if you if you
view everything, as a gift from Allah to Allah, take whatever you
want, it won't harm you. Because when it goes away, you'll view it
as Allah taking it away, right? At the same time, if that's truly how
you view things, right, so that's where the idea of Ask your heart,
it doesn't make sense in those situations. And when we when he
says here in the hikma that we go from creation to creation, and go
from creation to Allah, it's not precluding doesn't mean that a
person is a loss, avoiding everything, no, you're still going
to partake and stuff, it just won't affect you in this in a
negative way. It'll be measured, it's it's it's coming in, it's
going will be equal to you at a certain point. And that's not to
say that your knifes can't be corrupted. That's why I'm I I'm
not going to quote mufti, but I remember learning, this is one of
his sessions, that,
that it goes with the saying that your nuts must be pure in order
for that to happen. So if you if you constantly pollute your nuts
with you know, terrible things, then then obviously, it's going to
take you in the wrong direction. Yeah, and also the whole thing of
aesthetics and looking, you know, put together, I think it should be
put together in a very simple way, right? It shouldn't, you shouldn't
be getting to the point where and some of our traditional circles,
it's excessive in the ornamentation and the sort of
dilettante type of approach to things like, like wearing like for
scarves.
It's like you you wear scarves, a special type of glasses, a really
unique weirdo, where's Waldo cap type of thing. And then, you know,
beads that are very fragile.
I like things to be a bit more Spartan than that. Like, I like to
think to be, you know, if you're gonna wear a jacket, like less
stuff, but nice and durable to do or not, I don't like the look of
anything that is fragile. You know what, like, clothes could be so
fragile. Like I have that one Moroccan thought that I want to
eat. I only wear it to eat as soon as I can only take it off right
away. It's so nice that it's so fragile. It actually says to me
that it says it's like it's sort of like an expression of the peak
of society that has produced the finest ornate things, but they are
so fragile at the end of society. Right?
So this is like,
a few weeks ago at the minimum that after the class at the masjid
we were talking about Thursday, this week. Yeah. And morale thing.
I have one that I've had 16 years. 15 years. I paid $4 for it. Yeah,
I think 350 actual light was durable, but it's durable. I've
had to restring it a couple times, but with the same string debt. And
I may have lost a one or two beads, but you know, I replaced
them with something. But it's the it's the one Mr. That I use the
most. And it's gone through thick and thin with me traveled all over
the world. And it's still it's not expensive, though good quality.
The one thing that we shouldn't take upon is when we take on
civilizations, you're going to take on a lot of their culture.
But there are mega things in the culture that we should be aware
of. So American culture went from like the 50s and 60s to frugality,
hard work, right and pretty, I would say a middle down the middle
way of living, though, that actually produced such great
success that the kids that next generation came up and frugality
and hard work and those virtues and saving is gone extinct. And
then became more of a show. It became excess and showing and, and
it became instead of hard work and frugality became almost like
reaching heights that your parents could have never imagined. But
those heights are not good for you. You're reaching heights and
all there is to do is access and then it became
More of making everyone in the world know and see how awesome you
are. And one of the things about that on a societal level is that
when that starts happening, people that are smarter than the rest of
us know how to capitalize on that. Yeah. Right. So what happens is
that consumer goods, including home, exactly, and current prices
go up because they're like, we're no longer dealing with people who
are proud of how much they were able to say. Yeah. And that that's
the point of their pride. They're proud of how much they have that
they can show. Oh, yeah. So let's give them more and more
extravagant and more unnecessary. Like every single house. And we're
all guilty. Every single house now has marble or granite counters in
your kitchen. You cook on that? Yeah, this is not cook on. How
many of them have like wood
or just like something simple where you can you know, it gets
damaged, you're, you're spending the most expensive stone you can
find to like, throw food on in chapter with a knife and spill
things and put it but we're all we all do it because it's the
standard now has become a standard. So in the people who
remodel homes and who sell homes, just because you don't have that
you can't you can't sell your house. So you got to upgrade.
Yeah, and I actually, I wish that the crowd that we deal with all
the time, which are good people and then and we're there upon what
we believe is true, right? Or what is true, I should say?
Whether we believed it or not. It's true. The format hubs to so
off, right? This a little bit of a too soft, you know, look to them.
Like you just a push over, you look like a pushover, you're
quoting poems. And I'm not even saying like Arab poems, right?
Like where it's like part of the DNA, the sensitive part of the
religious literature, like HP Lovecraft, who devil worshiper,
like you say, like you, like you cite, you know, these delicate
lines, like poetry, quote Rumi, as if he's talking to a woman. Yeah.
It's exactly it's like that. It's too delicate. This is not the time
for delicacy, right? This is the time for
being a little bit more hearty. Right? and longer lasting and
simple. Right? Don't we get too flowery in our deen and to it's,
we're absorbing a little bit of that West Coast to East Coast
culture. That's of dilettantes that West Coast ocean. It's at
these mainly west coast. I didn't want to throw them under the
busway included us just
to be fair, I mean, Allah has blessed that area by sending Imams
aid and shadow dollar from from the east from these schools
because they made it they needed it. That's true. So they were it
reminds me of endo to see like endo to see all Where's all the
greatest Islamic art from Andalusi. What era was it produced
it at the end? Yeah, it was not producing the beginning. You got
to it's not like this a hobby. I mean, the TV
was
the first Tebay to go across I can't remember his name. He was
related to Ahmedabad OS family can remember his name Subhan Allah. In
any event, he the one who goes to conquer and to enter Lucia and
then taka Ziad after him, right? It's not like they went in, and
there was this beautiful and Lucien architecture. It wasn't
like that at all. It wasn't like Morocco will have this beautiful
ornate blue tiles. When Modi Idris when and his son established the
city of Fez. It was a pretty hammock people are very like it.
Yeah, it was Edwin Bedouin type of thing. Later at the end, when all
the wealth in the excess ruined the end of the scenes. That's when
they were hired to to build all these things. And they came up
with all these gorgeous designs at the end of their history. Same
with the Ottomans, yes. And all that stuff spilled down to
Morocco, after 1492. And before 14, I just do a little bit too. So
we have to actually think of that what we considered the beauty and
the symbol of what's actually symbol of the downfall, right the
decadence, the decadence. And in fact, and it's not to say that go
and take the coasters out of your house and throw them out that have
those ornate styles. It's not what we're saying. Alex is taking the
coaster right now.
You have a Turkish style one. Yeah.
Yeah, I guess it's Turkish as well. Yeah, these beautiful
Turkish style stuff that you think that the original Ottoman
conquerors, you know, we're making flowers. We're drawing flowers.
They're conquerors, they were they were wielding swords. They were,
you know, probably getting strong and learning. I think we're in
that period. We're not in the period of a fluffy fluffy Duffy
stuff, right? Like what I tried to make mbyc look like is the
emphasis is on the lighting, like the spiritualities and the
lighting, and that the color scheme matches and it's a big open
space, which is beautiful. Yeah, and other than that, I don't want
florals. I don't want little thingies, right. I just wanted a
simple space. Every item in it is nice. It's like decent
Not cheap plastic junk. No, no plastic at all
right and matching has to have to match because I bothered you that
I was in a mess and I don't even say so it had this kind of the
tile, the traditional
Turkish colors. It's like a deep red civilian and like a medium
blue and white. It was like beautiful tile work on the wall on
the wall. Right? And then the carpeting was green. Oh, my
goodness. Wow. Just mean, how about this? How about there's a
masjid I'm not going to name names
come from the outside. They have the dome, Indian style. The
minaret and I'm telling you because I took the class a couple
classes in Islamic art and architecture. Dome Indian style
onion shaped dome. The minaret. Men look style. I don't know where
they got it.
In the inside the floor and the Lucene style tiles. Wow, you go
inside now. Five different shades of blue or green.
That's like oh my gosh, you guys. You try you tried. But without
knowledge. Right? If this if you if you transform that art into a
festival, it will be a disaster.
If you if you combine that into a film that would be a complete
total filthy disaster. If it was a meal. It will be like a lobster
with hamburger roll. Or with a hamburger bun. Right? And aside of
of olives, total confusion, that's people up in New England. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a it's a hotdog bun. Yeah, with love with options.
But it's like cereal with olives. It's so off anyway. sounds
disgusting. It's disgusting. Well, if you have any sense of Islamic
history and where these different designs come from, that's why you
better off being uneducated, if you're going to interact with
certain place. So I don't want to sound like a dilettante. Right. So
I'm that's what it is. In summary, yeah. Consumption over consumption
bad.
meeting the goals that you need to meet for your, for your particular
need for your particular situation, the size of your home,
depending on your family, your career, etc. Not going overboard.
Not going overboard. Also in in, in depriving yourself and spending
less than you should for the basic things don't be don't be cheap
with your family. Yeah. And otherwise, you know, Allah, Allah
has given us limits that we can operate within. Yeah. And also
find yourself a chef so that you can get some more details for your
personal life. Yeah, because these things are the whole thing. No,
he's 100%. Right? Because these things are exactly changing from
from decades and decades, not just timestamp, decade to decade, these
in our worlds in the old worlds, it's century to century, but in
our world, it's decade to decade, the norms are changing all the
time. So what is fine, what is good and what is all right? It's
going to be by comparison to the righteous not to the wrong people,
but to those who you would want to be like
So alright, I think we can wrap up alright.
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