Shadee Elmasry – Bukhari Class #11 2of2
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The transcript describes a woman who wants to wear garments and pray while scraping off clothing and washing them. The discussion touches on delusion, including pressure on oil, pressure on oil, and delusion. The importance of women learning from the inside and the need for preparation for questions is emphasized. The conversation also touches on etiquette between men and women, mutual service, and the importance of beauty for personal growth.
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Pray in it.
So once again, this hadith narrated by
Aisha once again not really narrating authority of the
prophesy set level, but
more or less her authority under the understanding that she would
have done have done this over ovulation. But it's something that
either the province I said over instructed her to do, or that you
would have done under his permission, one word.
She says In the beginning, we used to, again, it
really means one of us the literal in the Arabic, which is saying
that it was a thing that not just her specific to her, but it was
something that became a sun. In other words, something that was
done during the time of the Prophet amongst the women there.
So the hate to menstruate. Once again,
this is the mother of magic, meaning reading something that
normally when we say, be something not to be narrated, in the sense
to use another term, or to not say in the presence of men and so
forth. But nevertheless, because there's a ruling associated with
it, obviously, it's included.
And I guess a little background is needed, without getting into too
much detail. But obviously, women back then didn't have the modern
sanitary products that women today have access to. And so whatever
they weren't beneath was pretty much similar to their clothing.
And I recall some variations, that they would wear something like a
sort of wad, like, loose pants underneath whatever,
over garland that they had. So
more than likely, they had some type of
not disposable, obviously, but something that they would wear
underneath during the menstrual time.
And I think I recall some narrations about to that effect.
So whatever it was that they would be wearing, it would be something
that they would remain keep wearing and not change, most
likely not every day either.
So if a menstrual cycle is four or 567 days, whatever it might be,
then more than likely they would be wearing that same thing
throughout that time. How do we figure that out? Well, the fact
that she says we used to scrape the blood off means that it had
time to dry.
So if I have time to dry that we're talking about some days,
matter of days. And
like we said in the previous Hadith,
blood being an exclusion is considered to be known as Yes.
So there's actually two separate things here, the idea of
menstruation, preventing, seen as a man are prevented from praying
and fasting and sexual *, that's a ruling by
itself. And how gentle often will that and then the idea of the
garment having the gesture on it is something separate. So the
heart of the Hadith, in other words, the ritual purity is
associated with,
you know, the ruling of the person, whether they're gonna pray
or not pray, that's not really what's talked about here, which
he's talking specifically about here is the garment the clothing
that was being worn. So once the menstrual blood has ceased to
flow, then at this point, the ruling is that the woman is to
make clothes and then she can pray. So including that whatever
garbage she's wearing has to be also free from any type any blood.
And this ruling is blood in general is considered to be the
Jassa. So it's not specific to menstrual blood. So if someone
were to bleed to an extent, what they say is bigger than
it does have an ability, which is fine. Have you ever seen a Mueller
a donkey? If you look towards the back up one of the legs, there's
this circular patch,
they'll look at me like I'm crazy. I've seen it next time.
Next time, make sure to look for that. So this circular patch is
about probably the size of
half dollar or something like that.
Like what's a half dollar
but the half that used to be just about that size. So if the blood
extends beyond that much, that is considered to be too much. And
once you'd have to clean it from from their clothing, or having
another pair of clothing to wear and not pray with something that
has that much blood not so small amount of blood, you know, someone
who paper cut on their hand or something like that. That's
It's not enough to necessitate to think about, you know, Washington
or something like that. So it's not a specific thing to menstrual
blood per se, but it came in the Hadith talking about menstrual
blood.
So she would first scrape it off, as we said, so if you have a dried
state, again, this is not specific to blood. But anything, if a state
that is dried, then the better way to do it is to scrape it off. So
as because if you wet it, as we said, then it will just break
more. So to be scraped off, like she did here, all day long. And
then
from the home, and I said any, and then sprinkle over the rest of the
garments. And you might say, Well, why did she do that? Right?
Because if she seemed the stain, she washes scripsit off wash,
okay, there might still be remnants of this thing. But as we
said, from the previous Hadith, that's not a problem. That's okay.
Well, why don't you sprinkle on the rest.
A medic takes this to mean that
when there is a possibility that some of the logistical been the
rest of the garment, but you don't see it.
Right, you don't see the stain itself, so there's nothing to
wash, but you have a suspicion that it might have come on the
rest of the garment, then you another which is the sprinkling of
water, which means you're not touching the clothing with your
hand and washing like this. That's called washing. But your hand is
wet. And you do this.
Right? That's called sprinkle, right?
Yes, sprinkled over the rest of the area where there may have been
suspected. So that's actually what we call.
There's no particular reason that that may actually, it's not going
to clean anything, right if there's a stain, but the idea
behind it is, because there may be some element of doubt, then this
is a means by which to alleviate that doubt, and then sprinkle the
rest of it. And again, that's not specific to menstrual blood or any
blood but any stain. So it's actually quite interesting, when
you read the fence about the idea of stains and doubts, I don't want
to get too much into it now. But it can actually be done in a
charge that has all of the possibilities. But one of the
possibilities being that if you are
unsure if your garment was stained with something to Jessa, but you
know that there was an agenda there, but you're not sure if it
got on that part of a garment, then it wouldn't be sprinkled,
this is different than there was no digit set to begin with. And
there's no sign of nudges. So never fell on you never came on
nor DC aside, then you're not to do anything. Because that would be
delusion. Right. And that would be you know, going into the whole OCD
thing we talked about earlier. What some people unfortunately
have had this issue like the man who was walking with Ahmad on the
line and then some waterfalls from the rooftops. And then the man
said looks normal. So you know, we think we should clean that off.
Father who thought about which is like walking King walking stick,
he held it down in a threatening manner like, you know, it's like
what we did today like slap him. You didn't slap him like that was
metaphorically wanted to slap him like what he's talking about.
There's no reason to think that water falling from some hole is
going to have anything I'm gonna just sit in it. So why putting
this type of delusional thinking into people's minds again, that's
different than a legitimate doubt which is considered a gin
modality. Something fell I mean it just and I'm not sure where it
fell Exactly. In that I can't see the stain in this case sprinkle. I
see the stain I wash it off the rest of it. Well, I have some
doubt I sprinkle it. So this is the issue that it's referred to
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to have to have a spot to have imagined even that nice on
ourselves.
I shall know that woman from the unsought which would be people
from earlier Medina said to the Roberto I said Um How should I
wash after menstruation? He said take a perfume cloth and make will
do with it.
I wouldn't have translated like that.
Because your will is most likely in the linguistic sense not in the
not like me
He will sell so I will translate that as ticket for a new cloth and
wash with it.
Then the prophesy seven became shy, kind of a clumsy translation
there. But yeah, the asteria
became sure
let's leave it at that.
So we turned this face away. So I took her
and explained to her what departments I said
the prophets I send another Hadith he praises the women of the unsub,
specifically, where he said the only Nam and he sat down and then
saw
alerting me. Hey, I wouldn't I mean, the faculty in Oklahoma
how great are the women have not sought that their modesty did not
prevent them from learning their Deen. And
you find this as kind of a little sort of a pattern, a theme amongst
the Sahaba that you have the very senior companions like Ahmad Abu
Bakr, and Ali, and so forth, who knew the prophets are settling
from Becca, and we're less apt to ask questions directly of him.
Sorry. And then you had others who are newer, many of them from
yesterday or Medina, who kind of were not shy to do so. So the
prophets have said he was praising them in that regard.
The other one, the famous one the
only thing
where the privatize hadn't prayed a prayer, and then it seemed like
you didn't pray before, like Isaac prayed to me instead. So earlier,
they need and he literally his nickname was the man of the two
arms, because he said his arms belong.
He said,
our customers to sell oil. So let me this evening, as the prayer
been shortened, or did you forget
prophesize said Kulu, daddy Columbia. He said none of that
happened. And then he thought about it for a minute. And he
realized that he may have left a lock on it. So he went back to it.
But in that gathering, were some of the singers, The Hobbit, almost
a walk off, man. I mean, they didn't ask. But it's really again,
you know, these and then it became like a thing. Like, it's always
good to have someone like affiliating with you. Because
they're the people will ask questions, when others may be, you
know,
striving to do so. This is a scenario so found in the circles
of knowledge, for example, a madman, and there would be people
would come from far away. And they would ask the questions that his
close confidants want to ask, but they were looking for an alpha
basket. And they're happy that someone else from the outside is
asking those questions. So here, one of the women of unsolved she
was very direct.
So she is asking about washing after menstruation. And not this
is not who can't be will do. Because will is the same. From
whether it's after menstruation or, you know, mostly whether it's
from after sexual relations or after Smith, ceasing of menstrual
blood center is no difference in how you go about doing it. So
she's asking something that's more along the lines of specifically
with her,
you know, with her private area, and what to do and how to watch
that.
So something very quite direct, right, that you think that's like,
even the commercials on TV, they don't say it like that, they kind
of
know how the flowers
you don't know what the commercials about but you somehow
you figure out the last thing it says you know, anyway
so he told her for the filter, and the filter is a perfumed cloth. So
here, perfume cloth, we're not talking about
what's needed to be done to wash the menstrual blood because once
it stops flowing, then the woman still was like she does any other
time. And there's no stipulation for perfume cloth. So this is kind
of something extra. So she was asking some of the more specific
the idea that there might be some type of smell that she wanted to
deal with. And so she's asking him about that. How do I how do I wash
that? What should I do?
So he was very specific indirect as well. So take this perfume
cloth for the well done he said so here's the water it's not the will
do have the prayer on the water translated thought that not make
me proud you make will do with a cloth that's perfumed like this.
That's not what he's talking about at all.
So however, it's clear that she made
They have not understood either, right? Because he told her if I
thought they said, if somebody said to miss Dahlia, there's
something that happened here that's not included. Namely, she
probably said, like, what do you what do you mean? I don't
understand that. What do you mean? Like, what was it?
You know, he used to use this cloth and apply it directly to the
area. That's what he's saying. But that's what what he wanted her to
understand. So he didn't want to start yet at this point came, he
made the ruling clear in this regard. But however, for him to be
any more explicit would have been kind of outside of the area of
etiquette at this point. But who was standing there at the same
time?
Say that?
So she said to her for gender. So I took her I put her next to me to
have him angry, that I showed her what he's talking about.
Then I shall know what he's talking to me this hadith,
especially that last part is Yanni I would use that as the biggest
kind of proof that he whatever you want to call it, that there must
be
competent group of women teaching other women. No question about it.
It's it's unequivocal right here. completely clear. Right? There are
certain things that only another woman can explain to another
woman. And then a man no matter how much they know, I studied the
book of menstruation all that, but completely remains a theoretical
thing for me. I don't I don't have an image of it. I can't picture
it. I don't know. So there has to be women who can do that. And
because I issue a lot, a lot that was in this picture, she was in
the scenario, she was able to do that.
And number two, the privatize LM allowed it.
Right. And she didn't ask him for his permission. She knew what he
was talking about. She understood. So she didn't take the initiative.
Right. So that means women don't have to get permission for men to
do that.
You don't need permission from men to do that. So hard being a
qualified for dia herself. And in the presence of a prophesy said,
even though he is the master teacher, so to speak, but
nevertheless, she didn't feel that she couldn't show this woman from
outside exactly what the Prophet saw someone was talking about, and
showed her directly. What, what was intended. So having women
scholars is it's vital. It's a loss of some sort of, not that
many anymore.
There's nothing wrong if they're teaching both sexes
is Isha, obviously, narrates this hadith, and there are men whenever
it is from her. How do you think that transactions are inspired?
They heard her voice and she narrated to them. So she did have
groups of men coming and learning from her. And
you'll find it in many of the annals of many of the automat how
they had these scholarly relationships with, with women who
were their teachers, whether you had the shade cloth.
So he
I think that's that's a very poignant Hadith for that. Also, I
think, to point out that hear,
the ruling here is not an obligatory one, no one said that
it was. So it's merely the realm of recommended, and there is some
discussion about for this person, why wish why perfume thing? Who is
that for? Is that possibly for a husband, if there was a husband
involved, or if she didn't have a husband, then could it be merely
for herself. So there's both opinions both ways about that. But
the idea is that
part of the etiquette of the Muslim is to, you know, to like
cleanliness and above ultimately men,
even to have smells that are
you know, are offensive to to remove them. This is a theme in
this one, for example, not coming to the masjid smelling the plugins
and gardening, it's not specific to onions and garlic, it's any
smell. So could be smoking of cigarettes, it could be sweat,
could be any of those things, any type of smell that you bring into
the house of horrors and all that it could be offensive to others.
It's either haram to do so. And to be honest, it's not specific to
the house of a lot either anywhere you go where you going to interact
with people. Right? And that includes interacting with the
spouse, even the people of your household. So there was this level
of etiquette between spouses that you know,
I was to say it but the kind of attitude of, you know, I'm home I
can just let it all hang out. My wife doesn't care. You know, I
just came in sweaty from the gym and I sit there on the kitchen
table for a while just
sweating. And that's all right. She wasn't like giving me a hug
anyway. And
that's not really, we can't say that's from the etiquette of the
Sahaba, or the prophets. So to say, you know, I'm sure he said in
the beginning with using Xena to command the Masjid. So Xena the
idea of Xena of beauty, and beautifying things, right? That's
important. So constantly. And beautification of things can be
things that you look at things that you hear things that you
smell. And so it's quite important that even especially the people
that are in a household, that people will try to do that. So the
idea of this, you know, doesn't matter how you appear for your
spouse, I can't find a good reference for that. In fact, I
found the opposite. The Prophet SAW, I sent them heat, for
example, he told men don't, when you're traveling, and you're
coming back, don't knock on your families in the middle of the
night. Don't surprise them.
Some might say, well, you know, we might find somebody there. No,
that's not what he's talking about. He don't surprise me that
she's not prepared to receive you. And so you may see something that
you may dislike, you know, she may not be prepared to maybe look at a
camp, that type of thing. And keeping the marital relationship
intact, is important. All right.
Interestingly enough, I haven't seen the Hadith with the opposite
reference, even though it's kind of understood, namely that, you
know, the woman should go see the man when he's not in a position to
receive her. But I think that goes back to the idea, the difference
between males and females is that men are more much more visually
oriented.
And so they will associate things more visually. So how the woman
appears in terms of her attractiveness, how she looks,
what she's wearing, that type of thing, has probably more of a
greater effect, than vice versa. Not saying that women don't like
to see men, you know, all sweaty and that type of thing. But for
men, it's kind of, I'm going to tell them the secret, it's like a
big deal. To see, it can it can change the mood completely from
like, happy to be home to be like.
But it's true.
So remember that the Shinya is addressing things, the way they
are not the way they think, like we think, so human nature is human
nature, and, you know, the male, whatever, ego
male, whatever, is what it is. And so it's going to be, you know, the
shooting is addressing that. So, I don't see it as kind of knock
against women or anything, it's quite the opposite, right? Because
it's giving them idea, yeah, I need to, it's perfectly okay and
permissible to, to try to maintain that amount of relationship in the
best way possible. And if that means that, you know, there's a
little extended effort in how they prepare one another, for the other
spouse, like it not necessarily said, I like to act as a
zoonotic disease, I like to be nice and smell nice and look nice
for her like, she would I like for her to do the same for me.
So again, it's the that relationship of the other of how
you view the other, in effect, serving them to some extent,
right, because you are serving, what would be what would make them
happy, or would not be offensive to them, it's really a service to
others. Again, it's important that we remove ourselves this whole
idea of service and seeing as it being a sign of inferiority, or in
our tradition, that it doesn't have that connotation with it. So
the husband serves the wife, the wife serves the husband, this
mutual idea of mutual service. And that idea ritual service goes back
to the idea of
more emphasis on fulfillment of obligations to others, than to
seek the fulfillment of one's own rights. Because the fulfillment of
your right is really the fulfillment of the others
obligation, which technically you don't have a lot of control over.
What what you do have control over is the fulfillment of their
obligation. So we're always taught to secure others rights by
fulfilling your obligations. You don't find too much. Urging of
seeking your rights in fact, in the Quran is quite the opposite.
In the Quran, we are encouraged to relinquish rights to let mistakes
past and let things slide when we have trouble the top one. Right.
So to let things pardon people is closer to talk what then to have
this stubborn insistence upon, you know, fulfillment of, of rights.
Hello, so I think we'll
stop there.
Let's clarify because if I read this without really understanding
it
I would assume that was that is not part of what is required as
part of us right? No.
This is not part of the most this is like after listening
and secondly I was in the impression women should not wear
perfume so is this like just because she's solving a particular
problem well it's perfume that's kind of an that would not be
it's not something that can be smelled outside
that's true for females I know the assumption here is this type of
perfumed cloth is not going to be something that can be smelled
outside of the area itself so
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