Saleem Chagtai – Islam Awareness Week Messengers to Mankind 6 of 7
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We have this responsibility.
We need to really carry this message and
embody it
and really bring it to the people. And
this is how people are becoming,
have become Muslims.
This is how,
you know, how few of us
few few of us are maybe of Arab
origin.
It's because some of you down to our
descent to our forefathers.
That's why we're Muslims today.
So this is not something which is it's
something we should do with
a lot of enthusiasm
because we want good for ourselves
and in the hereafter for people.
And we are in effect
completing the greatest one of the greatest sunnahs
of the prophet,
which is to mimic him
and imitate him
in his in an aspect of his prophethood.
Isn't it? To give the message, to call
people.
Even suffer a bit of, even to suffer
a little bit of maybe
insult,
bit of injury,
maybe physical or maybe verbal from people who
don't understand.
So it's a great chance to really do
that and to be of those people that
the prophet said when he talked about needs
to sit with the Sahami. He talked he
used to refer to his brothers. And the
Sahami said, I mean, not your brothers.
You're my companions.
But I'm talking about the brothers, my brothers
who I've not met or seen yet,
who remain firm upon the deen.
Because brothers,
this is part of enjoying good and forgiving
the evil, holding on to the deen, as
well.
Just just just to because if we call
to Islam,
it has an automatic effect that we will
take Islam more seriously. Otherwise, we'll feel like
hypocrites. We'll feel okay. We've got to act
like better Muslims, and we've got to genuinely
become better Muslims.
So it has that effect as well.
And we should not forget the story of
the people of the people of
the
Sabbath, of which
they were fishing town,
and
Allah
tested them by
telling them not to work, not to fish
on the day of Saturday.
As a fit that he would send fish
on Saturday to a fishing town. Fishing town
is what they do. They fish. That's how
they make their money. That's how the whole,
society works.
So when some people try to play about
with the rules and say, well, look. We're
just gonna leave the nets out.
We're gonna capture the fish.
We'll leave them out on Friday. We'll pick
them up on Sunday.
They're not fishing on Saturday. Right? Or so
they thought.
And there were a group of people, sincere
people who said, we should advise these people.
And a group, another group, 3rd group said,
who were not fishing on that day and
were not doing this trick
with the with the with the sharia, with
with the laws of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
They said to lead them.
They are a lot, you know, they they
misguided anyway.
Deal with them.
But that first group that wanted to join
the good forbid the evil advised, they said,
That we are doing this so that we
can say to Allah
we told them.
And if they listen, they listen, they don't,
then at least we told them.
And Allah mentioned in the Quran
that Allah saved the first group, the group
that advised,
implying that those people who didn't advise were
punished with those evildoers.
So, brothers, we need to be aware that
we are responsible.
We are responsible because we have, we have
ima,
we are peep we have that responsibility
and in honor of being part of Muhammad
So we have to pass that message
and that is
the message to mankind
and there's no way that we can get
get away from that.
Inshallah, we'll end the talk then. Inshallah have
some,
questions
or comments.
So
I think we can all agree that was,
very
So,
I
think
we
can all agree that was, very beneficial talk.
Now that the the if the your staff
is willing, you can accept some
questions from anyone.
Brothers, you can just raise your hand and
ask.
Sisters, you can, pass down your
questions on a piece of paper and a
chart. So I'll be there to collect them.
Any questions?
Can we take questions from you?
In the beginning, you spoke about,
morals being pointless without,
incorporating them,
with with God. Could you just sort of
expand that a bit more?
Yeah. Yeah. Basically,
human beings
need morals. Right? People need a code by
which they have to live their lives.
Right?
Now given that human beings are subject to
to flaws,
to,
corruption,
to
and and and that's not even taking count
of the fact that they are,
you know, they've only got experience of their
experience. Right? K. They've only got experience of
themselves. They've they've got no
idea
that,
of a person who lives in a far
off place.
Right?
All they can do is there's a group
of people that, according to their own experience
of life, they'll be able to make law.
So they it's not going to deal with
adequately with people who do not come from
their background. So let's say there's a group
of lawmakers.
Right?
They I mean, you don't have to go
very far. I mean, usually, these are all
the privileged few few.
They've usually come from decent backgrounds,
more often than not, good education, public school
educated,
the like.
They are not going to fully appreciate
somebody who doesn't come from exactly the opposite
side of the spectrum to them.
I mean, everyone agrees on this. I mean,
even
even the people who are the the greatest
protagonists
of,
you know, liberal secular democracy or or the
evolution of morality, they will say, but yeah,
but that's the best we can do. Okay.
That's fine, but that doesn't really deal with
the problems of of of humanity.
So it makes sense that we as human
beings, given that we already
acknowledge that we have been made, I we
there's no point entertaining an argument otherwise. You
we have to understand the fact that we
have been designed and made. Okay?
We may differ about the, there there may
be different discount. We can go into the
issue about the process, etcetera. But we have
been designed and made. We've been given a
consciousness to recognize a creator,
and it couldn't make sense to refer to
that creator or rules and to be the
moral arbiter,
to be the one who is beyond
human frailty
to refer to for this code of law.
It's just natural. It makes sense
because the other thing is absurd. The other
possibility is absurd. It basically means that a
human being
is bay basically at the mercy
of other human beings
that don't necessarily understand and don't necessarily understand
or appreciate it. And you will get Nazi
Germany. You will get,
other examples
of horrible regimes and,
and and you will have
a warped sense of morality. In this, you
will have *
being
allowed
200 years down the line or even less
than that.
And therefore, you cannot say what is right
and what is wrong now. You cannot make
more judgments
what is right and what is wrong.
Do you see? It's a very simple argument,
and it is, surprisingly effective. It's something I've
spoken to a number
of, people who, you know, atheists about and
they re and they've flown by this. They
don't have any even philosophers have been discussing
with with, a colleague of my Hamza.
You can see his debates online. They have
no answer to this.
Literally, you can see it. Cambridge professors have
no answer to this.
The all they end up doing is resorting
to the usual one slinging at Islam
because they have no answer. Because
they are not willing to be sincere to
the fact that there is a God,
that he has set that more,
code of behavior that is completely logical,
and
that's what they have to do. And
if they did that, then they would realize
that this all makes sense. Otherwise, it's all
just heading towards them. Because what if the
evolution
plan
I mean, I mean, that's what they're saying.
They're saying genetics, you know, have have got
this plan for human beings. That's why I
say to you, that's a little bit like
God, doesn't it? It sounds a bit like
God guiding you to this. Why do you
to this predetermined state?
So if that's the case, why is it
human beings,
in order to for us, let's say myself
or my people or my family or my
tribe or my background,
it may make total sense, therefore, to butcher
everybody else on Earth that that we can
have everything on Earth.
So we will survive on the fittest now.
Why do human beings don't feel that way?
And they say, well, science will show us
in a few years, so they will faith
in science,
which is absurd. What you're saying is we
can't discuss right now. Let's wait 200 years.
Once we get the answer, then we'll talk.
So you can't have a disc you can't
have a discourse.
Is that clear? It's quite,
you know, it is very clear. Human beings
cannot come up with with with inadequate moral
code.
And given that we already believe that we've
been created and made, it makes sense to
to to refer to that being as being
the arbiter for law.