Saleem Chagtai – Islam Awareness Week Messengers to Mankind 6 of 7

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The speakers emphasize the importance of embracing the message of the prophet and bringing it to the people. They stress the need to act better Muslims and to pass on the message to others. The speakers also discuss the importance of understanding and embracing the idea of a code of law. They suggest that humans are already designed and made to have a consciousness, and that they cannot come up with inadequate moral code and have a consciousness.

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			We have this responsibility.
		
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			We need to really carry this message and
		
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			embody it
		
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			and really bring it to the people. And
		
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			this is how people are becoming,
		
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			have become Muslims.
		
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			This is how,
		
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			you know, how few of us
		
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			few few of us are maybe of Arab
		
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			origin.
		
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			It's because some of you down to our
		
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			descent to our forefathers.
		
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			That's why we're Muslims today.
		
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			So this is not something which is it's
		
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			something we should do with
		
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			a lot of enthusiasm
		
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			because we want good for ourselves
		
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			and in the hereafter for people.
		
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			And we are in effect
		
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			completing the greatest one of the greatest sunnahs
		
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			of the prophet,
		
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			which is to mimic him
		
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			and imitate him
		
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			in his in an aspect of his prophethood.
		
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			Isn't it? To give the message, to call
		
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			people.
		
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			Even suffer a bit of, even to suffer
		
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			a little bit of maybe
		
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			insult,
		
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			bit of injury,
		
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			maybe physical or maybe verbal from people who
		
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			don't understand.
		
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			So it's a great chance to really do
		
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			that and to be of those people that
		
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			the prophet said when he talked about needs
		
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			to sit with the Sahami. He talked he
		
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			used to refer to his brothers. And the
		
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			Sahami said, I mean, not your brothers.
		
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			You're my companions.
		
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			But I'm talking about the brothers, my brothers
		
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			who I've not met or seen yet,
		
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			who remain firm upon the deen.
		
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			Because brothers,
		
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			this is part of enjoying good and forgiving
		
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			the evil, holding on to the deen, as
		
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			well.
		
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			Just just just to because if we call
		
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			to Islam,
		
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			it has an automatic effect that we will
		
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			take Islam more seriously. Otherwise, we'll feel like
		
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			hypocrites. We'll feel okay. We've got to act
		
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			like better Muslims, and we've got to genuinely
		
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			become better Muslims.
		
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			So it has that effect as well.
		
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			And we should not forget the story of
		
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			the people of the people of
		
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			the
		
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			Sabbath, of which
		
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			they were fishing town,
		
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			and
		
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			Allah
		
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			tested them by
		
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			telling them not to work, not to fish
		
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			on the day of Saturday.
		
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			As a fit that he would send fish
		
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			on Saturday to a fishing town. Fishing town
		
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			is what they do. They fish. That's how
		
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			they make their money. That's how the whole,
		
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			society works.
		
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			So when some people try to play about
		
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			with the rules and say, well, look. We're
		
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			just gonna leave the nets out.
		
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			We're gonna capture the fish.
		
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			We'll leave them out on Friday. We'll pick
		
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			them up on Sunday.
		
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			They're not fishing on Saturday. Right? Or so
		
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			they thought.
		
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			And there were a group of people, sincere
		
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			people who said, we should advise these people.
		
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			And a group, another group, 3rd group said,
		
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			who were not fishing on that day and
		
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			were not doing this trick
		
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			with the with the with the sharia, with
		
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			with the laws of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
		
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			They said to lead them.
		
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			They are a lot, you know, they they
		
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			misguided anyway.
		
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			Deal with them.
		
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			But that first group that wanted to join
		
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			the good forbid the evil advised, they said,
		
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			That we are doing this so that we
		
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			can say to Allah
		
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			we told them.
		
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			And if they listen, they listen, they don't,
		
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			then at least we told them.
		
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			And Allah mentioned in the Quran
		
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			that Allah saved the first group, the group
		
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			that advised,
		
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			implying that those people who didn't advise were
		
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			punished with those evildoers.
		
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			So, brothers, we need to be aware that
		
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			we are responsible.
		
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			We are responsible because we have, we have
		
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			ima,
		
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			we are peep we have that responsibility
		
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			and in honor of being part of Muhammad
		
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			So we have to pass that message
		
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			and that is
		
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			the message to mankind
		
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			and there's no way that we can get
		
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			get away from that.
		
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			Inshallah, we'll end the talk then. Inshallah have
		
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			some,
		
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			questions
		
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			or comments.
		
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			So
		
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			I think we can all agree that was,
		
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			very
		
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			So,
		
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			I
		
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			think
		
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			we
		
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			can all agree that was, very beneficial talk.
		
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			Now that the the if the your staff
		
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			is willing, you can accept some
		
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			questions from anyone.
		
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			Brothers, you can just raise your hand and
		
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			ask.
		
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			Sisters, you can, pass down your
		
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			questions on a piece of paper and a
		
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			chart. So I'll be there to collect them.
		
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			Any questions?
		
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			Can we take questions from you?
		
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			In the beginning, you spoke about,
		
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			morals being pointless without,
		
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			incorporating them,
		
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			with with God. Could you just sort of
		
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			expand that a bit more?
		
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			Yeah. Yeah. Basically,
		
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			human beings
		
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			need morals. Right? People need a code by
		
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			which they have to live their lives.
		
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			Right?
		
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			Now given that human beings are subject to
		
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			to flaws,
		
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			to,
		
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			corruption,
		
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			to
		
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			and and and that's not even taking count
		
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			of the fact that they are,
		
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			you know, they've only got experience of their
		
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			experience. Right? K. They've only got experience of
		
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			themselves. They've they've got no
		
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			idea
		
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			that,
		
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			of a person who lives in a far
		
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			off place.
		
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			Right?
		
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			All they can do is there's a group
		
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			of people that, according to their own experience
		
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			of life, they'll be able to make law.
		
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			So they it's not going to deal with
		
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			adequately with people who do not come from
		
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			their background. So let's say there's a group
		
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			of lawmakers.
		
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			Right?
		
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			They I mean, you don't have to go
		
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			very far. I mean, usually, these are all
		
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			the privileged few few.
		
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			They've usually come from decent backgrounds,
		
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			more often than not, good education, public school
		
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			educated,
		
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			the like.
		
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			They are not going to fully appreciate
		
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			somebody who doesn't come from exactly the opposite
		
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			side of the spectrum to them.
		
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			I mean, everyone agrees on this. I mean,
		
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			even
		
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			even the people who are the the greatest
		
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			protagonists
		
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			of,
		
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			you know, liberal secular democracy or or the
		
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			evolution of morality, they will say, but yeah,
		
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			but that's the best we can do. Okay.
		
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			That's fine, but that doesn't really deal with
		
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			the problems of of of humanity.
		
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			So it makes sense that we as human
		
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			beings, given that we already
		
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			acknowledge that we have been made, I we
		
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			there's no point entertaining an argument otherwise. You
		
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			we have to understand the fact that we
		
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			have been designed and made. Okay?
		
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			We may differ about the, there there may
		
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			be different discount. We can go into the
		
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			issue about the process, etcetera. But we have
		
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			been designed and made. We've been given a
		
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			consciousness to recognize a creator,
		
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			and it couldn't make sense to refer to
		
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			that creator or rules and to be the
		
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			moral arbiter,
		
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			to be the one who is beyond
		
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			human frailty
		
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			to refer to for this code of law.
		
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			It's just natural. It makes sense
		
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			because the other thing is absurd. The other
		
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			possibility is absurd. It basically means that a
		
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			human being
		
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			is bay basically at the mercy
		
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			of other human beings
		
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			that don't necessarily understand and don't necessarily understand
		
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			or appreciate it. And you will get Nazi
		
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			Germany. You will get,
		
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			other examples
		
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			of horrible regimes and,
		
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			and and you will have
		
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			a warped sense of morality. In this, you
		
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			will have *
		
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			being
		
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			allowed
		
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			200 years down the line or even less
		
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			than that.
		
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			And therefore, you cannot say what is right
		
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			and what is wrong now. You cannot make
		
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			more judgments
		
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			what is right and what is wrong.
		
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			Do you see? It's a very simple argument,
		
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			and it is, surprisingly effective. It's something I've
		
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			spoken to a number
		
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			of, people who, you know, atheists about and
		
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			they re and they've flown by this. They
		
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			don't have any even philosophers have been discussing
		
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			with with, a colleague of my Hamza.
		
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			You can see his debates online. They have
		
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			no answer to this.
		
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			Literally, you can see it. Cambridge professors have
		
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			no answer to this.
		
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			The all they end up doing is resorting
		
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			to the usual one slinging at Islam
		
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			because they have no answer. Because
		
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			they are not willing to be sincere to
		
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			the fact that there is a God,
		
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			that he has set that more,
		
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			code of behavior that is completely logical,
		
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			and
		
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			that's what they have to do. And
		
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			if they did that, then they would realize
		
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			that this all makes sense. Otherwise, it's all
		
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			just heading towards them. Because what if the
		
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			evolution
		
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			plan
		
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			I mean, I mean, that's what they're saying.
		
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			They're saying genetics, you know, have have got
		
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			this plan for human beings. That's why I
		
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			say to you, that's a little bit like
		
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			God, doesn't it? It sounds a bit like
		
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			God guiding you to this. Why do you
		
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			to this predetermined state?
		
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			So if that's the case, why is it
		
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			human beings,
		
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			in order to for us, let's say myself
		
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			or my people or my family or my
		
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			tribe or my background,
		
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			it may make total sense, therefore, to butcher
		
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			everybody else on Earth that that we can
		
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			have everything on Earth.
		
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			So we will survive on the fittest now.
		
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			Why do human beings don't feel that way?
		
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			And they say, well, science will show us
		
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			in a few years, so they will faith
		
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			in science,
		
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			which is absurd. What you're saying is we
		
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			can't discuss right now. Let's wait 200 years.
		
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			Once we get the answer, then we'll talk.
		
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			So you can't have a disc you can't
		
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			have a discourse.
		
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			Is that clear? It's quite,
		
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			you know, it is very clear. Human beings
		
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			cannot come up with with with inadequate moral
		
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			code.
		
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			And given that we already believe that we've
		
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			been created and made, it makes sense to
		
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			to to refer to that being as being
		
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			the arbiter for law.