Saleem Chagtai – Islam Awareness Week Messengers to Mankind 2 of 7
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You will think that men and women need
to be treated treated
in the same way.
The rules for the men and women should
be the same. That's ridiculous.
Because on a hot day, that knocks the
street in London, can a man and a
woman both walk down the street *?
No. They can't.
Because their anatomy is different.
So therefore, different rules apply
even in a liberal secular democracy.
So why is it so much a surprise
if there's another system which says
something else?
Not just that.
What about
social structures?
If you believe that we are basically a
product of molecules,
just advanced sets of molecules,
then you have a very
warped view of humanity.
That you have a view of humanity at
all.
And some of you may be thinking, well,
a lot of Western liberal secularists who don't
necessarily believe in God or any divine origin,
you know, they still believe in some good
and bad and some morality.
That's true, but if you think about it,
that's just remnants
of their Christian past,
which they've adapted
in order to deal with the new context.
But by and large,
by and large, obviously there are exceptions without
a doubt, major exceptions in many cases, but
but there is no doubt that this is
a heritage
of
the Christian
heritage of Western Europe, Western Europe in particular,
because they are leading the way ultimately
in liberal democracies.
So the only rational
conclusion is
that there can only be 1 morality,
and it has to be fixed.
Who's gonna fix it?
Me? You? Gordon Brown?
Barack Obama? Who's gonna fix it?
Well, they can't because they're supposed to be
equal to us. Right? We're human beings. They're
human beings, aren't human beings.
And Barack Obama, okay, he's quite an international
guy in terms of his origin,
but he hasn't lived in
other parts of the world.
So will their morality be different?
So it doesn't make sense.
It far more makes sense that there's a
fixed morality.
One level playing field for all human beings,
and humans can't set that. It has to
be a moral arbiter. There has to be
some
something
above human beings,
which is not subject to their biases, to
their greed, to their desires,
to their
hunger for power, for corruption, has to be
free of all this.
And this will have to be our creator.
That's the only logical
conclusion that the people who actually can be
can be reached.
And therefore, that means that we need a
human manual. We need a manual
to for how to live our lives.
Because let's face it. Even in
the west, which is arguably from a civilization
point of view, the most
advanced set of nations on Earth at the
moment,
there are still massive problems.
There are massive problems of crime. There are
massive problems of morality,
consciousness,
depression,
suicide,
social disorder,
families breaking down.
And let's not forget
that the west had apartheid,
not just in South Africa, but in the
United States of America only 50 years ago
in some parts.
And 100 or 200 years before that,
settlers from the West
going to the New World, whether it be
in Australia or the or North America or
even South America,
were butchering
entire races of people, entire tribes of people.
So how can
with some 2 or 200 years in the
history of the human experience, it's not a
long time.
So does anybody do they really have a
do we really have a right to preach
the rest of the world how to behave,
living in the West,
given the history.
So
this is what
scripture is.
Scripture revelation
is basically a communication
from the creator to the created,
and this is something which is expected.
And
given that
there are no authentic scriptures today apart from
the Quran, I think it's fair to focus
on the Quran
at this point,
and how it really does show that it
is a unique creation
from an almighty, all wise God.
So despite being the only authentic surviving scripture,
which is there rendering, remember, as human beings
we're expecting communication,
If we subject other scriptures
to analysis, we will see that all other
scriptures have faults,
contradictions,
logical flaws,
and if even they doesn't have any of
those, it is hard to ascertain if they
are the same scriptures as they were when
they were originally were transmitted
and that we can prove this.
Really, look into the history and biblical scholars,
how the Old and New Testaments of the
Bible was supposedly preserved or collected,
and you will see somehow this
is imposs I mean, there's so and and
this is exactly what happened. There was so
much room for adding and subtracting and changing
it and manipulating
the manipulating these books.
It's very clear.
In the Hindu scriptures, you see that the
Vedas, the early the early books, which are
very
which seem to be speaking or seem to
be coming from a divine
voice.
They seem to be coming from a divine
origin.
You will see that after that,
the narrow the the scriptures that
that talk about the Hindu personalities
like Rama, Sita, Krishna,
Vishnu,
Rama, and all these characters
because you have the earlier Hindu scripture, then
you have a middle level of of Hindu
scripture.
And those are mainly like accounts.
And in it, you will see,
and I've these books, I've read this myself
from those books.
They will
have stories such as Krishna,
who is considered the main one of the
main personalities of Godhead
in Hinduism,
doing very ungodlike things.
For example, he will dance with,
with the gopis who are, who are
basically girls,
and he will form with them
while dancing with them.
I said this to a Hindu. I I
said, do you not think that it's actually
a very ungodlike behavior? And he had to
admit,
yes, it is problematic.
Or the fact that he took
the clothes away
from the while they were bathing in in
in the river,
and he refused to get back until he
showed until they showed him their nakedness.
So the only conclusion can really be that
Krishna is not really divine. He is maybe
a person that was written about and then
got deified,
and people started to worship him afterwards.
The Quran
asserts
its own confidence.
Allah says,
that this that is the book in which
there is no doubt.
Very assertive
start. It challenges mankind from the very beginning,
and
no other book is like that.
It is also the peak of eloquence and
clarity in the Arabic language,
and it challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs
of that time.
And it flummoxed them. In fact, they didn't
bother trying. They didn't even bother because they
knew that this was something beyond their capability.
And let's face it, no other Arab is
gonna reach the level of Arabic that was
found with the Quraysh, the pagan Arabs that
the prophet
came from.
And they were a unable to contest the
Quran. Therefore, they used slander and manipulation and
spin
and media hype in order to belie
the messenger.
And in detail, they no one has ever
dared to claim
that anything is even equal to it. Now
why am I talking about the Quran? The
reason why is because the the Quran
proves
the messengership
of the one who comes with it.
Because what has happened throughout time is that
the communication has been delivered
via
a human being to the rest of mankind.
That's been the pattern.
And there are a number of reasons for
this.
1
is that
we as human beings need to see a
living example.
We need to see a living example.
Because if it was another being,
let's say an angel, let's say another being
from the spirit world,
we would have said, well, look, but that's
a different