Saad Tasleem – Catching Up with Me

			Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a tagalong discussion. I'm your host Ben outside and today we have
special guest sounds asleep. Do you want to talk out loud as loud as you know, you could be super
loud, man. I'm super loud. I'm just kidding me. So this Tagalog discussion is gonna be in two parts.
Part one is going to be on Assad's channel. So if you haven't already subscribed to him on YouTube,
subscribe now youtube.com slash shop yet to stream youtube.com slash start to flame. Part two is
going to be on the local channel. Yep. So we're going to be Part one is going to be about like kind
of like is what we've got going on. And Part two is going to be about kind of like level of life,
		

			and how sad bleeds purple.
		

			But the funny thing is, I'm the one that's wearing purple. Yeah, not sure if I shout out to Chicago
for for this shirt. So that's a nice shirt though. I like it. I've washed it three times. And the
color is still good. So props to you guys. not so subtle advertising right here.
		

			So as you can see that this is super, super informal. And, and the equipment has to be very touchy.
So
		

			So this way I can slap the table and point at the Nestle soul advertising. I don't know what
		

			your Hold on, hold on.
		

			Stop this thing collection.
		

			I don't know what it is that cell phone. That's what it is. Okay, guys, be
		

			Be sure to go ahead and Google that. It's gonna sound sim.com I mean, that's what I hear. Okay,
yeah, you can go there. And there's some information on there. Yeah, cuz it's got your name on it.
Right? Yeah, just yeah.
		

			So yeah, man, it's been a while. And by the way, guys, we just finished up recording hashtag season
three. So finally, finally, finally, a year later, I actually didn't know if it's coming back
because this guy decided to just get up and move to a different city. So and I already hooked this
guy up with everything that he needed to continue producing content. But
		

			high production value, man, it's got I just got spoiled with the high production value. So
		

			how high production is this?
		

			Actually, it's pretty high production. It will be amazing to you. It looks like kind of ghetto and
stuff. But to me, there's like a lot of stuff here. A lot of cameras, you got the lights. There's a
lot going on. Yeah, but here's the thing. I'm gonna put it out there right now, guys. I told Saad
that he should go ahead and revisit every one of your 30 plus hash tag videos, and do an expanded
edition Extended Cut extended, Ultimate Edition, kind of like, you know, go 1015 minutes into each
video, the videos of themselves, like, what, 123 minutes each is short. So and the cool thing about
the hashtag stuff was like, You know what, let's not do lectures, everybody who lectures Yeah, but
		

			even now, a lot of people do snippets of lectures, but because there's already kind of an audience.
Yeah, around the kind of kind of the ability to put out, it would be cool for you to give more added
value to Yeah, well, I think it's a great idea. Because they're like, a couple minutes. And then we
can just expand. I mean, there's a lot you can say a lot more you can say no doubt for the people
who want it, you know, they can get the Extended Cut version. And when you do here's the other thing
that's a this is all about disseminating content and stuff. If you do those recordings, you have a
decent mic, right? You can put it out there. And then if you do 30 recordings like that, then that
		

			could be repurposed as a podcast.
		

			It's good idea. You know what? I'm I'll record it and send it out to you. You can edit it up for me.
		

			Look, it's on tape. He's officially agreed. Yes. Yes. I'm just saying all you gotta do is just do
your thing. Do it national. Get it out. We'll get it out. We'll get it out. And the other thing is
one thing about me is I'm always promising content to people. Oh, it's coming. It's coming in. And
like it's super slow. And in the meantime, I promise it's coming soon. Yeah, no, without a deadline,
right. This is the artist dilemma, right? This is like you can't put a deadline on these guys. No,
but in the meantime, you can just fly down to Houston and just walk in right here. Sure. And I'm
always down. Oh, down to come to Houston. Our high production value
		

			held together by gaffers tape brought to you by something like that. I don't know what that is.
		

			He's spent five minutes trying to get that thing to to stay up. I
		

			don't know what that I don't know.
		

			Yeah, let's talk about this in question. What do you got going on here? Well, this is something that
I want to do actually for a long time. Okay. Is come out with Okay, let me be honest. Yeah, not so
much a calling line. What I've wanted to do for a long time is make my own clothes. Okay. One of the
things that like your own fashion through science Yeah, like I'd rather make my own stuff is started
in Medina because you can go there and get like a thorough made. Yeah. to your specifications. Yeah,
tell him and his chief common
		

			Like, it's very common, okay? Because it's so cheap like compared to like a ready made off the shelf
though. It's like a 10 $15 difference. So I'm not like yeah dollars realize I did the I did the math
for the exchange rate whatever, gotcha but approximately So I've when I was in Medina, I was just
got my own stuff made. And then coming back to the states and shopping and buying stuff. One of the
problems that always had is that if I'm wearing a shirt, say I go to like h&m or wherever, yeah, I
buy that shirt. I know why someone
		

			someone in the audience is probably wearing the same shirt. Yeah, right. Someone's got that same
shirt or whatever for you to have like that unique factors like Yeah, exactly. And then look, I
understand like, it's a lot of has to do with how you put it together. And that's cool as well.
Yeah. But to make my own stuff, the way I want it to be something that I always want to do. So it
was like, the clothing line is kind of an extension of that, like, I'm doing it for myself. Why not
share it with a certain amount of people? That's why
		

			is that why you come out with a limited? Yeah, so it's it's a collection rights collection? It's
very limited. Yeah. This coming collection is coming soon, inshallah it's on the way.
		

			It's four to five pieces for four or five designs, we settled on the last one yet. And 100 pieces of
each of each. Gotcha. And that's like four or 500 pieces. Yeah. And it that's it. And that's it.
Once it's done, that salt is gone is done, it's gone. And you will never see that same piece being
done by us ever again. Like next season, we're gonna do new designs. We're moving on, like, I'm sure
people will copy like our designs and stuff, right. But we don't care cuz we're done. That's like
it's done. We've made it. But that's kind of, I mean, that's kind of how the fashion industry is.
Yeah. Right. Like, they always come out with a season of clothes, brand or whatever. Yeah. And then,
		

			but it's just like, let me ask you this. What is it that makes some of the stuff that you're making?
What's unique about it? Well, first of all comes from my sense of style.
		

			Fashion is a word that I don't reject. It is very subjective. I don't like the word fashion was
what's stylish is what you feel the best in like, if you feel good, and like you can put on the most
fashionable clothes. Yeah. But if you don't feel good in it, you know, it's funny to talk about
feeling good. So local high school here. So one of the guys who's rolling running around in
slippers. Like, what are you doing that? is like, what are you running slippers for is like, Ah, you
know, I was late for school, whatever, blah, blah, I'm like, and it's like, oh, it's raining and
whatever. I'm like, Look, get yourself a nice decent pay. Like, you know, there's a couple of
		

			different brands of shoes in which like, if got wet, or whatever, in Houston, it rains a lot, right?
So if you're going to be going in between buildings and whatnot, your feet are going to get wet. If
you got like, you know, kind of a water resistant type of sneakers and shoes still have all the
functionality. You'd be cool. They say dominancy they're not brand name. And I'm like, What are you
talking about? This is like, Who cares? It was brand name or not? It hits it fits your
functionality. It does what you want to do. And they look good. So who cares if they're like not
Nike, or Reebok or Adidas or what have you? Yeah, I agree. I'm also gonna say this icky. You can go
		

			too far in the other direction, too. Like I shouldn't things. At least me personally. You're free to
do whatever you want to do, right? Like, who cares what people think. But me personally, certain
lines should never be crossed.
		

			crocs
		

			or even worse, even worse, socks and then putting crocs on or socks and sandals, socks and crocs
together just defeats the purpose. Right, but that doesn't remove the fact that they're terribly
ugly, atrocious, atrocious.
		

			We're gonna get a bunch of hate comments right now. buddy who wears crocs actually, who actually
wears crocs? There's a lot of people are really happy. What crocs Yeah, why? First of all, there's
like a lot of professionals that were like certain professions, I think, like nurses and stuff.
Really? People were on their feet a lot, I think. Okay. I don't know. Um, but yeah, they're pretty
cool. They're very common. crocs are not comfortable. I don't know. I don't know if people say
they're comfortable. So what are comfortable on bare feet? So
		

			different story? different story, right? Are you gonna worry about when I started about a month ago,
I know party's about Mongo. Yeah. But um, when I started with
		

			one of the instructors not gonna say who I won't put anybody on blast, but one instructors like, you
know, you're gonna be teaching now you're gonna be standing for hours, right? We start at 10am. And
it's seven, I think. Yeah. So they're like, you know, there's the shoes. You gotta buy these shoes.
They're like, really comfortable. And he's like, you know, bunch of instructors have them. Look at
me, I'll check them out. And then I saw the shoes. They're like, Oh, and I was like, dude, I'm not
wearing those. Like, I will be uncomfortable for 12 hours, but I'm not putting those on. Yeah. So I
don't know for me, like I said certain lines. I don't cross. But like I said, teach their own you
		

			know, if you feel good, you do you. Right. So, but no judgement here know, a little bit of judgment.
But I'm curious. I remember the the first edition of your Southwest themed collection. Was it the
one from Malaysia? Yeah. So people thought
		

			So that is what happened was that what happened was for I want to do like a soft launch, right? Just
to get the idea out there that I'm coming out with a clothing line just to get people used to the
idea because I get it, you know, like public speaker or shit, whatever. And then like a fashion
line, it's like, it's just weird, right? Don't really I mean, I don't know how many people know
this. But I mean, I know you mentioned it, but like, you've got a design background. Yeah, I do. I
do. I have a design an art background. So yeah, it's for me, it's completely natural. And that's
what really no jive. Well, this is a Yeah, I mean,
		

			honestly, there's very few instructors that I can explain a concept design was advertising wise,
communication wise, and you get it right. And we can just get right into the crux of the content of
what to display where other people's just like no one like this one. Like that was like What are you
talking about? That doesn't even make any sense. I call it client talk. Yeah, like make it pop? Make
it? You know? Yeah, exactly. What's the objective you're trying to accomplish? Like, you just wanted
to pop? Like, but, but like having? And I would assume that a big portion of that design background
lends itself into the fashion. Definitely, definitely, definitely, like I said, for me is completely
		

			natural. It's a natural thing to do. But I get that for people who don't know me. Don't understand
my design background. Like it's, it seems weird. So just to get that idea out there. I did like a
soft launch, which was, we'd printed some shirts, and just had like a little design on a T shirt.
Just you know, we sold like a certain amount. There are limited amounts on so people thought we're a
T shirt company. And I'm like, No, no, no, no, we're not. We're not a T shirt company. There's a lot
of T shirt companies out there. Yeah, the T shirt market is actually super saturated. Yeah, like
everyone's doing t shirts. We're not doing so easy to make a T shirt design. Obviously, you get
		

			whatever t shirts unless your T shirt is like one thing that I haven't seen from t shirt companies,
if people actually use that dry fit material, the polyester blend. So there's like a very small
percent population that's interesting that people like you, and then that
		

			fits so well. It looks good. You can go through hundreds of washes, and it still doesn't fade. And
it's like, yeah, and the thing is, as long as it looks normal not. It doesn't look like yes, if it's
active wear right. Like it's something that you could wear to your normal everyday stuff. But it's
still like fashionable. Yeah, look, I mean, look, I'm not saying I'm never gonna do a T shirt.
Actually, who knows? Maybe in like a summer collection, we might add a T shirt, but it is. It's what
you said. It's about how you do it. Right. It's about the fabric. It's about the feel. It's also
about the cut. It's about what you put on there. So yeah, you're right. It does. You can do cool
		

			stuff with it. But I just want to be like, we're not a T shirt line. Guys. This is that way.
reproduced another thing Yeah, we're not we're not doing those t shirts anymore. Like I said, if we
do a T shirt, it's gonna be over the show. Yeah. I'm always rocking it. He had. Yeah, he looks good
in it. Yeah.
		

			I'll put up a picture or something. Yeah. Yeah. But no more people wanted those. And I was
considering doing another run. And I was like, Nah, not gonna do because I don't like that
principles. I look, we're done. We're done. Yeah. And that's the idea. Right? So I like I'm okay
with sharing my clothes with about 100 people, right? Yeah. Beyond that, sorry. That's why every
piece and I'm gonna be I'm very, I'm personally gonna be wearing this stuff, right? You're gonna see
me wearing it at my classes, conferences or whatever, you know, formal events or whatever. And so
I'm going to be wearing this and you know, I'm okay with having about 100 people in the world having
		

			the same day. It would just be awkward. Like, more than that. I'm like, I like the idea that okay,
it's done is done. Yeah. And
		

			it also keeps it interesting for me. And, you know, I mean, Ivan designer works me as well. He's
actually a fashion designer. But it keeps things interesting for us as well, because we don't want
to just do the same stuff over again, we have to challenge ourselves every six months or every year
to come out with new fresh designs. Yeah. So what has been the challenge as far with the second with
the next one, like you're talking about? It's gonna be soon, but I would assume that there's been
whatever delays, there have been delays. I mean, there's this Obviously, we've been talking about
this for a long time. Our Instagram pages have Yeah, we have a Facebook page checked out by the way,
		

			we're on Instagram satsang collection.
		

			But yeah, we've been talking about for a while. So one of the one of the big challenges was
		

			having my designs, having our designs
		

			come out exactly the way we wanted it. So for me, like I said, this is personal for me, like I'm
gonna be wearing these clothes. So before even like, the people are gonna be buying this coat, I
have to be 100% happy with them. So those little details like making sure everything is the way I
wanted, things have to look a certain way. Okay, and not to feel a certain way.
		

			I don't want to give away too much. But so one of reasons we have a pattern or a print on
		

			on the garment. Okay. So the way that that that print is done, like you can do it in different ways.
You can do a digital transfer, you can do screen printing, etc. Yeah, exactly. So and all of that
makes it into sublimation.
		

			Present the material that you write. Exactly, exactly. So. So when you screen print something on to
a fabric, it's gonna feel different. It's gonna look different in certain lights, as opposed to made
like digital printing. Okay, so just that little detail, make sure that looks right. Look, make sure
it looks the way I wanted it to look. Okay. And so we've been, we've have our to do that it is it?
Definitely. I mean, this is even like me, in my mind and my designer as well. moraine. for both of
us. He's very passionate about it as well. We're super passionate about making sure it's it is it is
honestly, like, I know this sounds cliched, but yeah, it's a business as well. Don't get me wrong,
		

			but for me, it's it's the process of creating it. Like that's the fun part. For me. Everything else
is like I sound like I need somebody else to handle like the business side of it. Because first of
all, I don't have time for that. Yeah. Second of all, it's completely boring to me. I'm not
interested in that, like I'm interested in just like the creation process. Yeah, creating the this
all of those detail details. It's about the details. Yeah. And that's, that's the other thing,
right? Because we're doing a limited amount. And I'll just be honest with you, it's gonna be a
little pricey. And I understand. Yeah. So and I understand that most people are not going to really,
		

			I don't know, maybe they will appreciate those little details, but some people will. Yeah, that like
the stitching, and it's not like the small subtle things that we did. It's for the people who will
appreciate that. Yeah. So that's why, you know, that's what it's for. It's for a limited market
time. Yeah. And so is okay, you have a particular cut and things like that. So, and it's something
that you're looking at yourself. So is it fair to say somebody with your body type would be the
appropriate fit for it? So we're trying to be as versatile as possible. Okay, right. I can't
guarantee this gonna fit everybody perfectly.
		

			Because my challenge like yeah, just to be frank, right. Yeah. Like, I can do t shirts and
activewear. Easy. And I think that's how active was designed. Yeah. But if I go and get myself like
a decent color shirt, yeah. Do I have to spend literally hour and a half at the shopping store
trying every other different kind of shirt? And finally, when one fits, yeah, I, it's hard for me to
find another one just like it. Even when it doesn't matter, I still have to tailor it. Look, I've
the same problem. So we did keep that in mind. And we're trying to be to design the clothes in a way
that it will look good on a variety of different body shapes.
		

			So we're trying our best to cater to as many people as possible. Like I said, it's about how you
feel in it. Right. Like you don't feel good in clothing.
		

			Yeah, other than the fact they have to cover yourself.
		

			You can do that with
		

			anything, if it's just about covering. I mean, yeah, you can, yeah, just pure functions. Like what
were the harm. I mean, that's, you know, that's very close to what the person would wear sometimes,
you know, just two pieces of cloth. You know, just the one on the bottom, one of the top, you know,
being a cook. There you go. But that fulfills the requirement. Yeah. So cool. So, you know, you are
dead. Right? Yeah. A bit of debt for what, almost two years now? A year and a half year and a half?
Yeah. How's that? Like, how is that different transitioning man, it's, it's changed my life. Like I
know, once again, I know that sounds very cliched. And if I actually, you know, listening to myself,
		

			like if I heard if I heard someone saying, like, yeah, I'm a dad now and it changed my life. I'd be
like, Okay, I get it. But I still can't help myself from saying that because that's the truth.
That's the reality of it. I've experienced things that I never thought I experienced. I've been
through how if you were to articulate those feelings, like what would you say? Okay, so one of the
best ways I would say is a quote that I found, I don't remember whose quote it is, and I'm not I
can't quote it exactly. Because I remember the exact paraphrasing.
		

			The quote says something like having a child is like, having your heart be outside of your body
walking around. Interesting, right? Okay. So and that's, that's, that's how it feels. That like,
this is a piece of me, like my heart. Like, it's this thing that's walking around like that. It's
that dear to me. Like, love. Like a lot of people still even love it. You just protective of it.
It's Yeah, it's it's a lot of comes from that love. Right? Like, I think a lot of people who, unless
you have children, and this is where I've come to right now. I don't think you've experienced the
full extent of love, like look, growing up. I love my parents, right? My mom, I love my mom a lot.
		

			And I was like, okay, that's that's love. Like, that's what? Wife, right? Like, okay, love, passion,
all that kind of stuff. Like, okay, that's the intensity of love. And then I had my child. And then
I'm like, I've never experienced love to this capacity, okay? And I have no qualms with saying that,
like my mom, or my wife or whatever. But I don't love them. Like with the intent I love them, but
not as much. Not to that, like not to the degree in which I love my son. Okay, and which is, it's
scary, man. It's scary to love something that much. Right? And even like, you know, islamically
we're not supposed to love anything above a line is messenger. And that's in that point, it becomes
		

			a challenge and you realize the challenge that
		

			We have in that very aspect of Islam. Okay, that's that's a challenge. That's that's a struggle.
When you have kids, you begin to see that, you know, last pensado talks about children as as well
then something to that people boast about and I never really understood that. I'm like, why would
you like children? There's an annoying there, you know their work, you gotta do it like I would
never but but when you have a child like then you realize it's a fitna it becomes a test and a
trial. Okay, so I wasn't ready for that. And I had a lot. I've been critical of parents. Yeah.
Because I really became a big until I became a parent. And then, you know, I do what a lot of
		

			parents I do a lot of parents dealing with teenagers. Okay, right. My son doesn't listen to me. And
he does this. And then I caught him, whatever, smoking pot or whatever. And I'm always like, Tom
tell parents, you need to chill out, right? The more protective you get.
		

			The more you're gonna push them away, right? And I'm like, I'm always like, now, that's still my
advice. I never thought I'd be this overprotective Father, I have to hold myself back. Because I can
see myself doing what a lot of other parents do. Okay. Actually, my wife calls me out on it. She's
like, you know, in your talk, you're mentioning how parents, you know, you're, you're becoming
similar and I really had to just like consciously like, hold myself back. And you know, a lot of
that goes also to putting putting your trust in the last fantana trusting Adobe or trusting Adobe,
right, trusting that, you know, sometimes you want to, like we can't force guidance upon anyone,
		

			right? No One No, we can't force guys on anyone. You know, I'm just wondering now like, does being a
father now? And then looking upon the verses of the Quran from the perspective of being a father? Is
it a whole new light? A whole new light? Yeah, a whole new like, the pain of Yeah, full body system.
Right.
		

			I get I find I understood it, but not the way I understand it right now. Okay. Right. It's more
intimate. It's so much more intimate. Okay. Just even like you hear people say,
		

			probably one of the one of the most difficult things you can face in your life, most severe things
you can face is losing a child. Right? And I've heard that and I'm like, Okay, I'm sure that's true.
But now Mila protected her children. But now I'm like, I totally see that. I mean, the point where
like, even seeing your child in pain is like hurts. I can't imagine. I can't even imagine how long
how big of a test that is. Yeah, remember is the name that you chose for your son, Liz? Yeah. Now
your nickname in Medina was I was, I believe, okay, that came from I moved to Medina. You know, I
had two roommates. I was living in the dorms that first year. Yeah. And my roommates were like,
		

			what's your Kenya? I'm like, I don't have a Kenya like, What do you mean? Like your Abu What? I'm
like nothing. I'm like, I'm not married. They're like, you're not being married? I'm like, I don't
have kids. Yeah.
		

			Like, you'd have to have kids to have a couldn't you? I'm like, Well, I don't have a queen yet.
They're like, Can we give you a Kenya? And I'm like, Sure, go at it. Like, let's see what you come
up with. And literally, I think it was like, the next day. They come up to me and they're like your
upper lace. Okay. And I'm like, Okay, this is my, I've just gone to Medina haven't studied a lot of
Islam yet.
		

			And I'm like, Okay, I guess like Why? And they're like, well, there's a famous Imam. He's name was a
layth inside, underneath the son of side. And they're like, he's like famous familia, famous Hadith
scholar, and Heidi. And so your son will be negative and sad. I was like, Alright, cool. Whatever.
So then, you know, I started using it people coming up later, but I never thought much of it until I
started studying, we start setting filk. Okay, and law and jurisprudence. And then I remember
clearly sitting in class, we would take the opinions of the 40 memes. And very often, we would also
take the opinion of email and layth. Right, we would say I'm learning if I said this, my mother said
		

			this, this was there. And then email me late said this. What did we literally what was his talker?
He was early on, he was early on to the point where if like, what if? If today I believe is he was I
believe? I believe he's contemporary? If I'm not mistaken, I believe he is around the time of Imam
Malik. I'm not mistaken.
		

			I want to say Egypt area. Okay, for some reason that's ringing a bell. But a lot of I don't recall
exactly.
		

			The thing is, why isn't Why is it?
		

			Less as popular? Okay, so that was my question. Yeah. Right. I'm like, Wait, what? Like, first of
all, why are we taking his opinion, okay, in these matters, like, Who is he? And second of all,
like, why isn't there you know, if we're mentioning him alongside my magic money,
		

			why isn't there a lithium atom? So, you know, I found out later that if his works were preserved
		

			till today, then we would actually it's very possible that we could have a fifth method, which is
the lazy mother. Okay. But it's simply like, there's different reasons why must have the
proliferation. Yeah, either the adoption of it can be a dog government exactly adopted by the state.
This
		

			Students preserve it and so on there's many different reasons so for whatever reason, right It seems
that it not enough of his opinions were preserved to codify it into a mess. Okay, but there's
there's quite a bit of his of his opinions that are that are available now how like, because from
what I've understood, I only learned about the lazy when, after talking to you, all right, and then,
but in my mind, if there was a fifth method would be the loyalty method. Right. So the question that
comes up is, what's the difference between the two of them not in terms of because nobody's ever
literalist. So some people would consider the loudmouth have another? Okay. considered him with him.
		

			Okay. Right.
		

			And it was only revived because of open hasm, which was much later, but I guess so. So just say,
Medina, we would take the opinion of the four Imams, yeah, we will take an hour late sometimes.
Yeah. And sometimes we would even take the body opinion. Okay. So when you study comparative filk,
depending on where you say, but you take the audit opinion as well. Okay. Yeah. So it just depends
on who's doing the teaching. Exactly. Exactly. And you know, compared to Philip, not to get not to
get technical, whatever. But comparative film is something that is considered is supposed to be an
advanced subject, okay. Like the way we need to know the flip to compare exactly, you need to
		

			understand the fifth to compare. Yeah, and the problem is, sometimes people jump to compare to know
what the rules are. Exactly. before they even understand the issues. Yeah. So that's why
classically, the way was done was you would study a method. Yeah, you would start with the basics of
the method, you would actually start with just the opinion, the main opinion, you wouldn't even take
evidences and all that kind of stuff. And then to codify. Yeah. So this is how this is how you do
this. And this way, just the rules and whatever. It's all Yeah, yeah. And then the next step would
be something like, okay, here's one evidence, okay. Right. And then you add more evidences to it.
		

			And then you you know, for example, the embodiment of how you take a laugh, difference opinion
inside the method, because sometimes the differences inside them, and then you go through all that
process, and now you've become like a, you know, a master or you're good at your method, you
understand your method, you understand the issues. Yeah. Once you've done that, then you move on to
comparative film. Okay, right. So is that is that process that should the person technically should
go through? That's more like a master's degree plus, right, exactly. Well, at what point did you
like really decide like, yeah, you know what, I'm actually going to name my son late. Ah, you know,
		

			I, when I started to kind of learn more about Mmm, Nathan. And when, like, his name would come up
quite often.
		

			It was around that time that I was like, yeah, you know, it's cool. I like it. And then you know,
linguistic like, what it means that it's like a lion or like a, like a.
		

			Versions or different words they have for a lion. The language in Arabic. Yeah. Interesting. But is
this specifically a lion cub board? Is it just a cub? Cat family? No, no, it's it's a lion cub.
Okay. It's not a cat. And it's not
		

			like it's a Persian kitten.
		

			kitten.
		

			But yeah, my wife now is like, maybe we shouldn't have named him that because he's like, you know,
he's getting closer to you know, terrible twos or whatever. Yeah. All over the place. She's like, is
that his name coming to light? Yeah.
		

			I wonder how often do children really embody the characteristic of the name that they're given?
Arabs back in the day would really believe that okay, right. They would really believe that if I
named my sons they will. You know, my daughter, they will really embody that name, for example, is
the name but I wish I heard when I was setting in Medina, I thought was so weird. Yeah, the name is
metab. Whatever comes from that, which is like, tired to be tired. What type is the one who makes
others makes other people tired? Right? So if you're like, annoyed with someone, or even that's your
child, right? You're like, intimate. They're like, you're just you're tiring me. Like, you tire me
		

			out. so exhausting, so exhausting, right? And I'm like, why would you name your son? Okay. Yeah. But
in the context of like, tribalism and warrant Exactly. So they would say, Who am I doing? He's he's
tired. He will tire out our enemies. Okay, right you know, tribal warfare and all that kind of
stuff. So they would or, or slab slab means like difficult okay, right. Like why would you name your
son difficult right but it's like a difficult for the people who will go against and that's the
other thing you know, the crazy thing about the name layth. And I think a lot of people gonna name
their child late after they hear all this but I love the name Angela. Thing weird by the name leaf
		

			is daisies. Yeah, right. have a hard time with with the name because there's a sound in it. Right?
Yeah. So there's no thought in order to do this. And there's a there's a thought but it's pronounced
set. Okay, yeah. Right. Like loose? Well, no, no, like, Alright, man is my smile. Yeah, I see what
you're saying. So people are confused. They're like, they're like a laser.
		

			Like laser laser laser. So it's strange to me. But, um, in the American culture, Americans are like
the big speak English fine. It's perfect. His first doctor's appointment. The nurse comes out and
she's like, late.
		

			To sleep and like what, like perfect pronunciation? Yeah, I don't even realize that until like after
a nameless enunciation of very prevalent. Yeah. Maybe that's what people need to keep in mind is if
your name your kid, in an American context, may want to keep in mind that how that's gonna sound.
Yeah, I mean, look me personally, I mean, I'm in two minds about this issue. On one hand, I think we
need to preserve our culture. Yeah, we need to preserve the Arab Arab names, Arabic names, or
Persian names or whatever. There's so many cool, like, for example, like there's a one I think a
great name for a daughter is Lana Kia. Okay, it means boundless heaven in Hawaiian. Okay. And in
		

			fact, this name that they gave to the our galaxy supercluster, when they measured all the stars, but
it's an amazing name. Okay, so, yeah, for a name like that. I would just be like, just need to make
sure there's no like religious connotation. Okay. Right, because we can't use names that have
religious meanings. You know, not it's not understood. But in general, yeah, you can name as long as
the name is, it has a doesn't have a negative meaning. It does not relate to like, someone else's a
different religion, then yeah, you can like you can name your son john or Peter. Whatever. Yeah, no,
my point is like, it doesn't matter. But, but like I said, on like, Mondays, we'll go. Yeah. But
		

			that's the thing, right? Like, people gonna have people yada, right? You're gonna have a hard time
with that. Well, john. So my problem is people who are actually called yahia, who would call
themselves Yeah.
		

			I mean, sometimes look, a kid goes this, like, they grew up with a name. Yeah. And like, they hear
that name in elementary and then middle and then everybody's everybody's always calm. Yes, he's
like, a cameo or whatever, it's fine.
		

			But like, I'm in two minds about this one, one. So part of me is like, No, you know, we should keep
naming those names. People will learn like we've we've learned the name Jose. Right? We get it?
Yeah. Right. What else could have been? My point they could have whatever they could have been in a
name that is more common to like, white people or Joe, right, whatever. Okay. So we know that name
now. So if we hold on to that part of our culture, maybe, you know, the next generation, they're
like, yo, de la. Yeah, de la is a common name. Okay. You know,
		

			I've done you know, people learn how to say it, just how they learn to say, Jose instead of Joe,
Joe's, what are how would you? How would you pronounce
		

			it? Yeah, cuz your your, your, your, you've you've heard that name and pronounced by the pronounce
correctly, right? Yeah. So like, my, when I was in Spanish class in school, everybody
		

			knows you've been exposed to that culture. Yeah. Like in Spanish class in school. Everybody's
getting the Spanish name. My Spanish name was Jose.
		

			Like, why are we changing my name?
		

			Maybe, maybe one day culture, you know, in a class somewhere in America, people gonna be given like
Arab names and someone's like, creeping Sharia.
		

			Alright,
		

			cool. Yeah. So yeah, so that's, that's one side of the argument. Other side of argument is listen to
you. We want to put your kid through that. Or people butchering his name, or her name. The other
thing else is like, is the name seemingly sounding like something that's weird.
		

			islamically or just slow? It could be it could be like, isn't as hot.
		

			Right? Yeah. But that's like an obvious like, I'm gonna get probably a good idea. Yeah, so yeah.
Which is it's a good name, but it's just not a good in this context. Yeah. But
		

			you're taking it too far. That's a good example. I mean, you're right. Like, what do you do? What do
you do with that name? We're gonna wrap this episode up.
		

			Late. Sorry, guys. super high tech. Yeah, right. high production value. Value kinda shot ourselves
in the foot. We started off with saying, high production.
		

			production. It looks good to me. So. Yeah, I mean, so thanks for joining us for this episode. Again,
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