Nouman Ali Khan – The Quran Library #04 Themes & Stories, Defence of the Quran

Nouman Ali Khan
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The importance of reading the Quran's introduction before reading a book is discussed, as it can lead to misleading reading. The Quran's approach to understanding the story and filling gaps in the story is emphasized. The use of gathered information from the internet and the other source of the Quran are discussed, along with the history of the Quran text and the use of the internet in Arabic writing. The internet in Arabic writing is discussed, and the use of the internet in English is also discussed.
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Okay. So as a general point, by the

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way, this is what our scholars have taught

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us that before

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reading a book,

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you must read the introduction of the book

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because whoever does not do that has wronged

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and done injustice

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to the author.

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Because you will not understand, you know, how

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they've approached the book. And why do authors

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take 85 pages

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to talk about everything except the book itself?

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Some some do and some don't.

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I think some is an unfair word for

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why

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do they respond

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to Western criticism in Arabic?

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Well,

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that's a good question.

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Okay.

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Well,

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there's a lot of books here because, Sheikh

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Saif got a little excited about this section,

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Quranic subjects. So hopefully, we can

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start undoing these building blocks. But, yeah, tell

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me why you're so excited about this again.

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Okay. So, I mean, this is a section

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about,

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what we can call.

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We studied that as a subject in Al

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Azhar. So these are actually some of the

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books that I used to study. 1 of

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our

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He wasn't a direct teacher of mine, but

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he's

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a scholar in our faculty,

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Can you explain tafsir maldoyi a little bit?

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You said subjects, but Yeah.

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So tafsir al dua is basically an approach

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to

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surveying a topic throughout the Quran. So if

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the well, we'll see some examples but we'll

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take one about,

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okay.

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Some of these are quite complex.

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A simple topic could be

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bees. Okay that was only there's not many

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verses about bees that would be very easy

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so there wouldn't be much to write But

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if you took for example hikmah.

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It's a big one. Hikmah in the Quran.

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You know, where does the word hikmah appear?

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What are the circumstances of it? What does

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it therefore mean? What could be understand by

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taking this global view of the Quran

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rather than the local view of a particular

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ayah.

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Because when you're studying,

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whether it be a word or a concept

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or an idea in one ayah,

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your picture is not complete until you see,

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okay, what else is said in the Quran

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about this? How does that shed light on

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what I'm understanding here? Right. So that's a

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general operation of tafsir.

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Then you can also take that and just

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write

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a subject paper on that,

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on that On that particular word, theme,

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subject. And that should follow certain

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principles and norms and approaches, which is what

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they talk about as a subject of tafsir

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malbuoy. I see.

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So I've thrown a whole bunch of things

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down here, you know,

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peace in the Quran,

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the Quran in the Quran,

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The Quran says about the Quran. So I've

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got some very few things on that.

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So what can we understand about how Allah

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deals with different nations over time?

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Interesting. You know, very, very useful book.

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Dialogue in the Quran. Dialogue in the Quran.

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So what is gonna be a very powerful

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literary dimension of the Quran? So it's not

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always about the meaning of a word or

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or a It could be a stylistic thing

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too. Right? An aspect of the Quran.

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Right. Yes. So hawar,

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all types of discussion that takes place. It's

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not the word you're looking for Right. In

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this dialogue. We're looking at the dialogue. Dialogues

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themselves. So this is actually one of the

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the early works in this in this genre

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by Sheikh Mohammed Abdeladraz

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who's an important author in in in Quran

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studies. He's the author

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of. Right. I've read

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which is called the Quran and eternal challenge

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in English. Right.

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But he actually wrote this book originally in

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French. I don't have the French one. I

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don't know if it's really published.

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But this is an English translation. This is

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the Arabic translation. How many you don't read

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French?

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I don't read French well,

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but I do try sometimes.

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So but it'd be nice to have it.

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You know? I wouldn't mind if someone has

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got his book in French just because there

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there'd be a lot of barakah in there.

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But in a way, the the the Arabic

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translation by Abso Subur Shahin Mhmm. Oh, I

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bet yeah. Yeah. You see the connection? Yeah.

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Yeah.

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In a way, I feel like he was

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translating it back into Arabic because it's an

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Arabic topic.

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You know? Right. To the Quran. So but

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he he he made it as if that

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that feels like the original book.

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The

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constitution of ethics in the Quran.

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So Very interesting. And what he did was

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he he also and he did this at

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the Sorbonne in Paris.

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He,

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he compared the Koranic approach with

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various western,

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ethical thinkers and philosophers.

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So there's the English translation,

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from the French I think. I mean we

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have quite a few English followers.

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I think it might be worth a read.

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Of the Quran. Yeah. I would prefer, to

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be honest, that they translate from the Arabic

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even than the French. But Really?

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Yeah.

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Are there additions in the Arabic that the

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French the English doesn't

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have? I'm I'm not sure.

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My feeling is probably based on

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the as a say translator? Yeah. I think

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the translator understood well enough that, his translation

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then becomes authoritative

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in understanding what was intended by the author

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in French. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't always say

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that, but in some cases

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so here, I've got a kind of subset

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of things to do with Al Qasas al

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Qurani.

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Okay?

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So let me just move some of these

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other things out of the way which are

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not necessarily

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okay. Let's see. There's love in the holy

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Quran by Prince Ghazi of Jordan.

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That's become quite famous.

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I have the the Arabic one as well.

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And then we've got

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oh, there's a whole book on,

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really?

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Check

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out. Because there are several

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different ayat where it seems that

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the prophet is being, you know, told off

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Correct. By his lord and master in some

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particular way. Yeah. So what do we understand

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by these? What what can you learn by

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looking at these junctures together?

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That's what that book is concerned. Doctor Salah

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al Khaled, isn't it? He he passed away

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quite recently.

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Islam. It's quite a nice topic to see

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how Aqidah has dealt with in the Quran

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itself.

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You know,

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manners of speech.

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You could say centrism,

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moderation, balance

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according to the Quran.

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And this is one that, Sheikh Shehri was,

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I asked him about that. You asked him

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for a good book on,

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but it's to say parables and examples in

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the Quran. Yeah. He recommended this one to

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you. Can I see that?

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Yep.

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You better put your sample on this one

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too, brother.

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If it goes to good use, then, you

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know no. You're still not getting used.

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So

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because I've seen you under pressure situations say

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yes to things and later say why did

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I say yes? Oh, by now I know

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you long enough that I can just say

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no. Yeah. There's no pressure now.

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So, yeah, classes of Quran.

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Stories in the Quran,

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I guess,

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you know, it's kind of obvious you got

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famous works like,

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Ibn Kathir's stories of the prophets. Right.

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So

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a lot of the stories in the Quran

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are stories of the prophets, but not exclusively.

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Not exclusively.

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Beyond that, this is quite a nice one

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by doctor Ahmed Naoufal where he talks about.

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So oh, there he is there.

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So this is a nice sort of So

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he's talking about

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logical. The the Quran's approach to describing the

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stories? No. He's talking about how

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we, when writing about Quran,

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can have a good methodological approach.

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Oh,

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I think. Oh, so he's not okay. Yeah.

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I think because I'm pretty sure I haven't

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read this book or have maybe

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dipped into it at least.

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Okay. So as a general point, by the

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way, this is what our scholars have taught

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us that before

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reading a book,

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you must read the introduction of the book

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because whoever does not do that has wronged

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and done injustice

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to the author because you will not understand,

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you know, how they've approached the book. Why

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do authors take 85 pages

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to talk about everything except the book itself?

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Some some do and some don't. You know?

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No. More of I think some is an

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unfair word for

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to describe the proportion of the ones that

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you Even you can skim the introduction. But

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but the other thing to say is that

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before putting the book on the shelf,

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read the introduction, read the, you know, index

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page, and then you get a sense of

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what that book is before it goes on

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your shelf and maybe gets lost there.

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So so generally speaking, I follow that rule,

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but there's probably a few cases where I

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didn't have a good time.

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We've got some which are nicely

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this is Fadl Abbas again. Remember we saw

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his face over here. Yeah. He's got a

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really nice book. Look at stories in the

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Quran and not just of the.

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This is a really nice one by Abdul

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Karim Zaidan. So what are they doing when

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they're looking at stories in the Quran? Are

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they just extracting lessons? Are they So the

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reason I put this under

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is because what you do is you gather

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different ayaat pertaining to like a prophet like

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Musa islam his stories in so many places.

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So you need to reconstruct

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the order in which these events are happening

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so that person can understand,

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how that is. Mhmm. And then they're basically

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telling the story

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and connecting things together

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and where necessary filling gaps.

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You might get some further information from hadith

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and so on that helps you to,

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to fill any gaps in your story based

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understanding.

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So it's interesting like for example, salih alaihis

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salam,

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First thing he does is mention what 8

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Surahs he's been talked about in,

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and then,

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the difference in style and the way he's

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talked about as opposed to Nur and between

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Nur Hud and Salih alaihi wasalam.

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And then finally,

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an overview

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and a sequential

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account of the story of Salih alaihi salam.

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So it's kind of that's his that's I'm

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supposing this is his approach to all of

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them. Yeah. And what he also does sometimes

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because he's looked at some earlier books in

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Quran. So Yeah. He's one of the authors

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who doesn't pretend like nobody

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wrote anything before.

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So he'll sometimes shed some light on misconceptions

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that that arise or things that have been

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written that need some The clarification. Yeah. Yeah.

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So

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this one is nice as well, by Abdul

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Karim Zaidan,

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which is focused on lessons for people involved

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in Dawa.

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Very nice. So, you know, it's it's very

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clearly structured that way. He'll he'll he'll mention

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the events and then he'll say, okay. These

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are the sort of points and the and

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the the lessons that we can take as

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people who are, you know, trying to work

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for the cause of Islam in one way

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or another in this world.

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And I guess the last one from this

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I'd mentioned is, you know, again, a

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subset,

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a

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and

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Qurania.

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Oh,

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actually because they've used the plural word.

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So this is nice as well. And, when

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we look at English books, we'll see some,

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some modern

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interventions into this subject as well.

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I'd be curious to see what he is.

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She. Oh, she. Okay. I mean, I'd like

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to think that a male author might also

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have written this, but I'm quite glad this

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this is a a female author. Hoda Abdelotif

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Arian.

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Yeah.

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So the next bunch that I pulled off

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the shelf Yeah.

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Concerns well, it's a little bit of a

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mixture. This is a classical work by a

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Suratul

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Quran.

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You're complaining that, some of the titles don't

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look like they rhyme. Usually, when you look

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at the full title, you'll find

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you'll find the rhyming version. Yeah.

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This,

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you know, from what I've been able to

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surmise through looking through it, actually has a

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lot of overlap with Facebook.

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So

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I'm not sure exactly what was the,

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the nature and purpose of that,

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of that,

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authorship.

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But then a lot of this has to

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do with, the history of the Quran

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and

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some questions and challenges raised against the Quran.

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So kind of

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apologetic

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defense of the Quran. Mhmm.

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So You know the word apologetic in the

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dictionary and apologetic in academia is

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significantly different. Like you could explain the difference.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I don't mean like saying

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sorry

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for the Quran, but just making the argument

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for the truth of the Quran. Right. Especially

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in the context where, you know, obviously some

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people don't believe in that and some people

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make arguments against the Quran.

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So apologetics

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is generally the field in which you mount

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that defense and you present the positive arguments

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also

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to believe that this Quran is from Allah

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and also to respond

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to contentions by people outside.

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So I mean this is such a mixture

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of things. This is a classical book for

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the Qur'an,

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but it's got some aspects of the history

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of the Quran which is why I've got

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it here. And then I've got books on

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the history of the Quran, you know, most

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celebrated one

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by,

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Muhammad Musafal Adhami Yeah. The history of the

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Quran text.

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So in English this remains

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absolutely

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the best thing everyone should have, a copy

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to be aware of of aspects of the

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history. The same author

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has got a separate book on

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scribes of the prophet and those who wrote

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down the revelation.

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And he you know, I think he's reached

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about 60

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scribes.

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Although there's some dispute as to the identity

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of all of them,

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but there could be as many as 65

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people who were writing

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writing the Quran for the prophet.

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But also in Arabic, you know, there are

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other works on,

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tariq and Quran.

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And in particular, doctor Mohammed Hassan Jabal,

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who is the author of Al Muir Jamin

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al Shittaqi Yeah. You know, we we use

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a lot. He has some other books in

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in in the field of Quranic studies,

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such as this one talking about the 7

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akhruf of the Quran. That's the subject that

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we'll come back to as well.

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He talks about

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So, again, the transmission of the Quran orally.

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And in this book, which is

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The book before this one?

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You see?

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Yeah.

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So history of

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a Yeah. He's but he's kind of making

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some point about how,

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the oral aspect fits in alongside other aspects

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and and how there are sometimes some small

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details,

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which one could,

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there are dispute over

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some very, very precise details in Tajweed, for

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example. And some people will say, well, I

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received from my sheikh who received from the

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sheikh who received from the sheikh. So that

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can't be questioned because of the Isnat aspect.

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So he's saying what that goes alongside,

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other aspects.

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So one can study things in terms of

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the

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the text and in terms of the linguistics

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and to,

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and to say that the transmission, the oral

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transmission and the the isnaad is one aspect

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that exists alongside others.

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But,

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yeah, in the history of the Quran, he's

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got this one.

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And we've got here oh, this is that

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woah. I got it.

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Safe.

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Here we go again. With the tariq al

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Quran,

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which is one of the sources that professor

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Adame uses.

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This is these are some books that are

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responding to those who are suggesting that there's,

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contradictions in the Quran.

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So this is one by doctor Khalidi, who's

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another book of his we saw earlier.

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Here is not really supposed to be priests,

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but it's like

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some Christian missionaries and their contentions. So he's

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responded to a particular,

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book of theirs.

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I think by,

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yeah, there's a guy who still appears on

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YouTube, I think.

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Alfadi. Anyway, so he's responding to that. And

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this is by Sheikh Shankiti, who's the author

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of Adwaal Bayan. Oh, wow. Yeah.

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Again, responding to things which may appear to

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be contradictory in the Quran, how we understand

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them correctly.

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Muhammad Mura Ali

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is another one who,

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you know, he's a Bengali scholar passed away.

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Rahmahullah, the Quran and the Orientalists.

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This was quite

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a influential book for me when when I

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first read that and

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has

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got this book

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where he is,

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responding to things in Encyclopedia Britannica,

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which concern the Quran.

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And that probably Why

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do they respond

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to Western criticism in Arabic?

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Well,

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that's a good question,

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because that's what they can do.

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So

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this would kind of happen

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when in the first place someone can either

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read

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encyclopedia Hanukkah in his language or if it's

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translated into Arabic.

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So sometimes it happens that people translate the

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work of Orientalists

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into Arabic. And then there's and then the

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ideas start to spread. And then people are

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worried that, okay,

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Muslims or Arabs in general will be confused

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by these ideas. So we need to respond

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to them. So they respond in Arabic for

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that audience.

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They're not necessarily thinking about

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the Western audience, the Anglophone audience.

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That's not their primary concern.

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If they wanted to reach them, then they

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should have these books then translated into those

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languages.

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I think that there's there's still a divide

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and disconnect between

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Arabic language material and English language material Correct.

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And other languages,

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which we need to do something about. Yeah.

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And,

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you know, again, Marcus Tafsir, whom we visited,

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one of the really exciting things that they're

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doing

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is translating a lot of things into

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Arabic,

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and not the old orientalist things from the

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18th

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19th centuries.

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But in fact

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they're translating the latest pieces of research that

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have been published in western journals

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So that's really important then. They're letting their

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audience of researchers

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look at what's being said now

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in order to

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benefit from any ideas that are good in

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there but also to respond to things that

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require response.

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It's interesting that they're not really doing anything

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to translate what the Muslim world's doing.

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We are, though. And, yeah, in in in

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in reverse,

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was actually an acknowledgment of some of that

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that we're just assuming that there's nothing really

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to be offered.

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Yeah. And and and first of all, also

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notes in in some of his writings that

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there's been an assumption. There's a continued kind

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of unspoken assumption in,

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in much of Western writings that

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secondary scholarship, which is to say, you know,

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contemporary scholars are like the people who are

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here at this on these lower shelves, especially,

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They can't contain any kind of critical insights.

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You know? They would just be parroting things.

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They'll just be making assumptions

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and assertions and Right. Doctrine based.

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There would be nothing here that a critical

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minded Western scholar

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could benefit from,

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which he said, we really need to challenge

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this kind of assumption or this kind of

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bigotry, really, which is what it comes down

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to.

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What did you find?

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I

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found

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Yeah. So I think again, some people are

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again, sort of on polemical

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missionary channels.

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They will say, oh, there are such and

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such grammatical mistakes in the Quran. Right. So

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this book specifically addresses these claims of grammatical

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mistakes in the Quran. Yeah.

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Very cool.

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Very, very cool.

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Okay.

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Show it up up here and then come

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next to the

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the massive field, which is some other load.

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Tafsir.

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The central topic of it all. Yeah.

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Everything else is feeding into that.

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Yeah. We'll come to tafsir next. This has

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been great.

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