Naima B. Robert – We’ve Separated Sexuality From Spirituality

Naima B. Robert
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The speaker discusses the importance of balancing sexuality and emotions during marriage, as it can lead to trauma responses and problems. They suggest finding a way to balance these emotions and avoid getting into a romantic relationship. The conversation also touches on the idea of "has he been married?" and the potential consequences of not meeting the expectations of a man.

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			And then just as you said,
		
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			we know that it's a part of
marriage, we know that in order to
		
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			have children, it's gotta go down.
And we, and then the more we know
		
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			about it, the more our programming
doesn't make sense, because as you
		
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			said, Allah subhanaw taala created
us, He created us with the body
		
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			parts that we have, He created us
to work like this, he created the
		
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			desire, he created the pleasure,
not only did he create the whole
		
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			mechanism, but look at the way
that it's spoken about in the
		
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			Hadith, for example, the fact that
it's an act of a burden that you
		
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			actually get rewarded for its
sadaqa, right? There's actually a
		
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			dua that you make before you enter
your wife, like, what is this?
		
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			It's like, it doesn't make sense.
But we're supposed to be pure and
		
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			religious. But we're supposed to
enjoy *. Like how this doesn't
		
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			make sense. Do you know what I
mean? I know exactly what you
		
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			mean. That's because we've we've
separated sexuality from
		
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			spirituality.
		
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			We can't love God and love *,
too.
		
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			But God created this thing, right?
It's a it's a, it's a, you know,
		
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			one, one scholar, he says, it's a
piece of paradise, the only piece
		
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			of paradise that you'll get on
Earth. It's the only thing. It's
		
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			the only thing that is haram for
you. And by doing a simple act of
		
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			obedience to Allah subhanaw taala
entering into marriage, it becomes
		
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			halal, and it has blessings on top
of it. But it's that cognitive
		
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			dissonance and it really comes
from us not truly understanding
		
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			our theme.
		
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			You don't it's and this is in you
said it right. There's an extreme
		
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			right, you either love it. You
listen to the songs, you you know,
		
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			you watching the movies, your
internet, where you're repelled by
		
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			it. But what is Islam, Islam is
the middle path.
		
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			I don't I don't have to, I don't
have to fully indulge in it. And I
		
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			don't have to be repelled by it.
But it has its place. And it has
		
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			his time. Let me bring it let me
bring it to the middle. Okay, I
		
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			don't like that song, talking
about who whatever. But when I
		
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			think about my man, you know,
this, this might be things that I
		
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			like to do, right, I don't have to
be repelled by it. But this is not
		
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			something that I'm going to do
publicly there's a Islam creates a
		
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			space for it. So and it's the
middle path. And I think that's
		
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			what we forget. But I also
understand where that comes from
		
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			it can be both of those responses
can be trauma responses, you know,
		
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			the promiscuity, does promiscuity
that we might see from people.
		
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			That's a trauma response, as is
the repulsion.
		
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			But both are damaging. So we need
to find a way to balance it. Well,
		
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			this is exactly exactly as you
say, you know it, I want to say
		
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			unfortunately, but you know, it
just is what it is, if you do want
		
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			to get married, you know, male or
female.
		
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			It's a part of marriage. So it
probably makes sense to figure
		
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			this out. And to kind of
		
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			to get onto the right page with
it. Because I can only imagine
		
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			what we know already. Because you
know, we speak to people and we
		
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			hear from people, but just how
lonely it must be. To not
		
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			experience that connection with
your spouse, you know, it's a loss
		
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			really it is it is a loss, which
we really wish on anybody because
		
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			as as you say, you are halau for
each other. So
		
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			Oh, Cliff and enjoy. That would be
that's just it's such a huge
		
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			blessing of that union. I think
it's just one of the best things.
		
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			It is. And it's so it's so deep
that I sent on an Instagram live
		
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			once. Because, you know, we were
talking about things to consider
		
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			before marriage. And a sister
said, Well, there's a brother who
		
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			wants to marry me. He's very good.
He's very kind. He's very pious,
		
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			but I'm not attracted to him. And
I said to her sis, when you're
		
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			thinking about a man that you want
to marry, you need to also pick
		
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			someone that you will want to have
* with. And she said she was
		
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			offended by that. Oh, and I said,
this is Oh, this is the problem.
		
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			This is an issue. Okay, people,
you shouldn't you know, you
		
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			shouldn't marry a man, just for
*. Of course you shouldn't. Of
		
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			course you shouldn't. But you also
should not marry a man that you
		
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			are repulsed by. You should not
marry a man that you don't want to
		
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			have * with. Because this is
you're not entering into a
		
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			business arrangement. He's not
becoming your teacher. He's not
		
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			the brother that you sit next to
at the masjid. That's the brother
		
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			that you lay down with in your bed
at night. It is okay. But that's
		
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			how deep it has gotten that you
have young in this. This was a
		
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			young Muslim woman. You have young
Muslims who are engaging in
		
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			marriage, and they're like, I
can't even think about whether
		
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			this person fits my desirability
requirements. Check this out. This
		
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			is this is what he's saying to me,
right? Maybe that sister, too.
		
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			things maybe she has a type. So
she's he's not her type. Well, you
		
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			definitely wasn't her type yet,
but she's thinking, I can't get
		
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			that way with someone who's not my
type. So maybe he's not the type.
		
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			But also, it could be that and I
think from her response, it sounds
		
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			like she feels that that kind of
genuine desire is a bad thing, and
		
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			isn't something that is in any way
to be honored. So, you know, it's
		
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			almost like I shouldn't even be
looking at him like that, you
		
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			know, but then hey, who knows?