Naima B. Robert – TMC E5 Clip Advice for When Muslim Couples Grow Apart WATCH THIS

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The speaker discusses the trend of couples getting together and finding it difficult to stay together. They also talk about the shift in the mental state of women and how women are now finding it difficult to stay together. The speaker emphasizes that relationships are not about who is the
the most important person in one's life, but rather what is the most important thing in one's life.

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			panela there's a lot of emphasis
on, you know, sitting together
		
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			being together. And I don't mean
just two bodies on the phone.
		
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			That's not togetherness. You're
physically in the one space, but
		
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			you're emotionally mentally,
you're in two different worlds.
		
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			That's not togetherness.
		
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			This is okay, there's I want to
jump in, I want to jump in because
		
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			this is really important. And why
I'm jumping in is because the
		
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			trend in this context is women
getting to the stage. And feeling
		
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			like, this is not what I want for
the rest of my life.
		
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			We love each other. But we're not
in love. Or I love him like a
		
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			friend. were roommates.
		
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			Maybe the children are growing,
maybe they've grown. And I'm
		
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			saying this based on so many
sisters getting in touch. And even
		
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			there's been some some shows about
it actually some some some YouTube
		
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			series where they've discussed
this phenomenon of couples, just
		
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			apparently couples, but I suspect
it's mainly the women because the
		
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			women are the ones in general with
the higher expectations of the
		
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			relationship, right? I think most
men, if they're comfortable,
		
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			they'll stay. It doesn't have to
be five stars. It doesn't have to
		
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			be amazing. It doesn't have to be
exciting. It doesn't have to be
		
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			something new, as long as they're
there. Okay, they will pretty much
		
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			stay. And I don't know whether
you've seen this, but this is. And
		
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			it's sometimes been surprising,
because it's like, well, how can
		
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			you be happy with this? This is
where the woman is saying, Well,
		
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			we know we hardly do this, we
don't do that anymore. You know,
		
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			we're not this anymore. We're not
that anymore. Like, aren't you
		
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			unhappy, as unhappy as I am? And
he's like, I'm fine. You know,
		
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			like, we're okay. Anyway, the
context of this is a conversation
		
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			that was had about divorce in the
Muslim community, and not
		
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			necessarily divorced based on
like, toxic relationships or like
		
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			bad things happening. But couples
just growing apart, or the woman
		
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			feeling she's outgrown the
husband, or she's outgrown that
		
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			marriage. And that's happening a
lot in the Muslim community now in
		
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			this generation, where I have
women messaging me saying, you
		
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			know, my husband is, he's a good
man. But I feel I've outgrown him,
		
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			you know, I'm doing this. Now I'm
doing that. Now. I'm doing this,
		
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			I'm doing that. And he doesn't
want to do those things with me.
		
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			And he doesn't have a growth
mindset. So I feel like I can't
		
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			grow with him anymore. I feel
stifled and all of this stuff. I
		
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			don't know, maybe you haven't seen
it in your practice, but it's
		
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			definitely something that's
happening in our generation. So do
		
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			you have any thoughts on that? You
know, it's, it's, you know,
		
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			interesting, you're saying that
because there is a change in
		
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			mindset with regards to marriage,
and I have seen the attitude of,
		
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			you know, well, I don't love him
anymore, or I'm not on the same
		
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			page. We're doing things together.
I hear what you're saying. But
		
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			what I'm trying to say is that
your journey, and your aspiration
		
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			doesn't have to be shared by your
husband. It's an important point
		
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			to make sense. Yes, an important
point, you need to say that the
		
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			thing is,
		
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			you are an individual, you have
your own hopes, you have your own
		
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			dreams. You don't just separate
that from your relationship, your
		
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			parenting, you see, when we look
at ourselves, we need to look at
		
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			different areas of our life, you
know, our professional or personal
		
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			our relationship, our community,
and then our spiritual where we
		
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			are with Allah azza wa jal, you
know where we are with our say,
		
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			self care. So the different areas,
the thing is yet, we have this
		
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			idealistic idea that we want
everything to kind of be together,
		
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			it's not sometime your children
won't be in the same page with
		
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			regards to your new tissues,
ideal.
		
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			Sometime, sometimes, you know,
your extended families will not
		
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			share the same, like taste in
makeup or your dress code. It's
		
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			okay. You might like certain
things more flamboyant than
		
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			others. That's fine. That's your
taste. That's your passion. No one
		
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			has to share your passion. You
know, it's fine. The thing is when
		
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			people say that we are growing
apart,
		
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			here's the thing, any relationship
you will fall apart if you don't
		
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			make that conscious effort of
being together, if you're not
		
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			sleeping together, if you're not
eating together, if you're not,
		
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			you know, going out together, if
you're not converse, having
		
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			conversation together, of course,
you're gonna fall apart. Of
		
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			course, you know, the thing is,
relationship intimacy does
		
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			isn't happening, like, you know,
invoice in a vacuum.
		
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			You have to make time, effort and
conscious commitment that you're
		
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			gonna spend time you're gonna eat
together, you're gonna go out
		
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			together, and that togetherness
brings the heart together. That's
		
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			why Subhanallah there's a lot of
emphasis on, you know, sitting
		
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			together being together and I
don't mean just two bodies on the
		
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			phone. That's not togetherness.
You're physically in the one space
		
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			but you're emotionally mentally
you're in two different worlds.
		
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			That's not togetherness.