Naima B. Robert – Harnessing the power of social media Rahma Rodaah
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The speakers discuss their process for creating and printing books, including personalization, shipping costs, and printing with a printer. They emphasize the importance of learning and being intentional in their writing process, creating clear messages and goals, and being clear about their message before trying to market their book. They also emphasize the importance of being clear and ready to act out, being prepared for anything, and finding value in the media. The speakers emphasize the importance of clear communication, being clear about their message, and being ready for anything. They also mention their success in promoting diversity and diversity in the writing community and their upcoming book.
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We are
on the homestretch.
We're in here. We're talking to published authors.
We're talking to publishers. We're talking all about
publishing
on this day of the Muslimah Writers' Journey
online summit. And this particular session is really
exciting because it is
with one of our up and coming independent,
publishers and, you know, independent authors
who are playing the game in a way
that makes me really pleased,
Because,
when you see people,
applying the knowledge that they have to their
books, getting their books attention, getting
people to know about their books and making
an impact. Whether it's social media or PR
or in the in the press in general,
that gets me really excited.
So it's with great pleasure that I will
introduce you to sister Rahma Rodda
who is the author of Muhamma's Quest
and the author of a book that is
coming out very soon. And she will tell
you about that Insha'Allah
in the process of this particular session. But
today, we are gonna be speaking to sister
Rahma all about
self publishing, options in self publishing, and how
to make that PR public relations work for
you. Sister
Rahma.
I am so honored to be here and
to be talking to you.
In my journey as an author, I dreamt
about,
opportunities such as these to be talking to
an experienced
author such as yourself. So I'm really honored,
and I am so eager to share the
little knowledge that I've acquired
throughout, my publishing,
journey.
I think that that spirit of generosity and
sharing, I think, makes us all stronger.
So I thank you for for making the
time to, you know, to speak to us
and to share
what is happening with you in your
part of the writing space.
So you are a children's book author. That's
correct. Right?
That is correct. Yes. I do write, children's
book,
mainly focusing
on, the representation
of black Muslims,
because I found that there was a lack
in,
the market for children Muslim children's book. So
my main focus is to produce and to
write stories featuring,
black Muslims.
Fantastic,
And and we know that you're self published.
Okay. So you're independently published. Tell us a
little bit about
your journey with self publishing, the choices that
you made, why you made certain choices, and
how you're running your business essentially at the
moment.
Okay. Yes. So I started my journey.
My my first book, Mahima's Quest, has been
published
coming up to a year now.
July 17th
will be
the poster anniversary of the book being, on
the market.
I'm very excited because it's been a long
journey. Before that, it took me a year
to bring this product to life. So,
when I started out, I didn't really know
how I was gonna do any of this.
I didn't have the knowledge. I didn't have
any
of,
the resources or anything like that, but I
focused on producing
something that will be
able to compete on the market. So I
knew that I wanted to self publish because
I knew that from the little research that
I've done to get a traditional publishing,
deal would take either a long time, which
I felt that I wanted my book to
be on the market right away, so I
didn't wanna go that route. So the first
decision that I made was to go self
publishing route. So
I didn't know how I was gonna do
that, but I focused on writing the the
book,
producing the book, and doing all of that
part first, making sure that the end product
was just as good as any book that
was on the market that was, traditionally published.
That was my main goal before I even
thought about anything else. 2nd of all, I
then decided to self publish.
Therefore,
the easiest route to self publish that I
was able to find was to go with,
CreateSpace with Amazon.
You're able to upload your book as a
PDF on their platform
and have the book already ready for sale
there,
as well as the fact that it is
a print on demand,
company. So, basically, anytime that somebody makes an
order, they ship it directly. So it was
a lot of less,
hardy for yourself to not worry about having
to do with shipping or anything like that.
And so since I'm also based in Canada,
it's, the shipping cost is sometimes high for
me to ship to to the US or
other other countries. So that was, something that
I started doing,
in the beginning. So I uploaded my book
to CreateSpace.
I let people know,
and, that's what I decided to do.
Initially, when I did with Create
Space, I requested a proof to come in
the mail for me,
and I found that the quality of Create
Space
was not as high as what I was
expecting.
The paper quality was not,
the the best that I've seen,
and,
the cover was just not thick, although I
didn't request. And they also don't do hard
copies. They don't do,
hard covers. They only do paper covers. So
anyway, when I received the book, I found
that the quality was lacking.
So there, I continued to print with them
until I was able to find a solution.
And when I decided afterwards that I said,
you know what? You've been focusing on quality
this full time.
What is the point of having something on
the market that is not reflecting of the
quality that you were after? So I've decided
to pull my book off,
CreateSpace or their Amazon platform.
I then searched for a printing company,
and,
another issue with, CreateSpace was that shipping the
books to me was a high cost.
Just the shipping,
the money conversion being Canadian, sometimes our Canadian
dollar is very low,
and bringing the books to Canada in large
quantity, I would have to all do also
deal with custom,
fees,
things like that. So it added up and
the cost per book was going up, up,
up, up to the point that I wasn't
able to make a profit. Yeah.
So then I decided, you know, this route
is not good for me. It's not working.
And I think that's one of the biggest
things that you have to be able to
shift.
Because if you try something and it doesn't
work, you have to be able to figure
something else out. Even though you know what
you don't know what the next step is,
You have to be able to make that
decision and say, I don't know what else
am I gonna do right now, but this
option is not working for me. So let
me pull that and work, on finding another
solution. So what I did was I found
a printing company here within Canada that I
was able to control
the the quality of the of the book.
So the quality was much better.
The cover was
in a format that it was harder cover
for even though it was a paper copy.
It was just the quality of paper was
just excellent.
And then I was able to print smaller
amounts with them,
deal with less shipping cost because with it
is within Canada.
I'm dealing with my own currency, so it's
less money for me. And then I was
able to personalize even when I'm shipping the
the books. It is a added burden to
be able to to ship the the books,
but I think that the product that I
am, providing the book that I'm providing
looks way better than, what I was what
what I was encountering with, creative space. So
that's where I'm at in terms of,
what I've done, where I've started,
and where I'm at and what I'm doing
right now in terms of,
my my product. And and it's still on
sale on Amazon. I'm working on a website
where I'll be able to control that because
you have to remember that Amazon will always
take its share.
So and then there's also the shipping cost.
So you have to factor in all of
those costs when you are,
shipping your item. It's, the Amazon cost,
your shipping cost,
the envelope,
that you're shipping with. All of those things
cost money and are coming up from your
profit. So all of those things are there.
So I'm working on a website where I'm
gonna be able to ship directly,
which will be the best solutions.
But for now, it's on Amazon and at
least, people are able to purchase it.
Fantastic.
And for sharing that with us. It's I
wish you really, really interesting because,
you know, a lot of people feel,
a little bit overwhelmed when they think of
the idea of printing with a company and
like actually having boxes of books in their
garage or whatever. So, just to wanna say
really brave of you and courageous,
to take that step for the sake of
the quality of your book. So for that.
And another thing as well that I'd like
the, the, the viewers to note as well
is your ability to print
smaller amounts
if you find a printing company that will
allow you to do that, which is, you
know, it takes the fear factor out. Because
I think many of us when we think
of printing with a a printer, you're thinking
a 1,000 copies. And then you're like, oh,
woah, woah, woah, hey. So if you do
find a printer that will allow you to
print, I think you said that they allow
you to print from 100
up? Is that correct? Yes. It was, either
100,
units
or,
then it went up to 200, 300, and
then up to 500.
Okay. So I did the initial,
you know, the initial print.
I got a proof in the mail. I
made sure everything was right. I was still
working with my illustrator to make sure that
we made,
you know, decisions together, that it made it
looked right. The paper quality was great because
they were able to send me samples.
And then I decided to print 200 copies.
Yes, it's it's, it's a visual,
kind of
reminder that you have to sell these books.
Right? But I knew that over time, however
long it took me, because for me, it
wasn't when I started this journey, it wasn't,
some thing about that I was gonna, you
know, quit my job and and do this
full time. It was I started with the
intention that I wanted to benefit
our UMMA and,
influence the children that were kind of growing
up like me that didn't have this representation
in the books that they read. So for
me, it was not, about sales or anything
like that. So I had 200 books, but,
you know, I was doing small work, like,
in my spare time. I was doing community
work where I was, a cell.
Sometimes I was going to schools or doing
mosque events or and then selling slowly on
my Amazon, you know.
But it was really nice that I I
had that small quantity that I didn't feel
pressured because I even, considered,
printing with China. A lot of people do
that.
But with that, you have to at least
have a 1,000 copies.
And then the
the custom cost to to bring them here,
and am I, where am I gonna store
a 1,000 puppies? I live in a small,
you know, bedroom apartment.
They're big. That's just not gonna happen. Right?
I'm glad that this worked out for me.
No. We're all very, very glad that it
worked out, and it is true. 1 of
this one of one of those, motivating things
is having the boxes of books there saying,
tell me, please. So that's fantastic.
So I can hear from you that obviously
you you started out with a mission,
but you've been very,
very intentional about
every part of your your your your your
book journey so far.
Are you naturally a business person? Like, you're
talking about profit and customs costs and stuff
like that. And I know for some people,
all of that kind of gives them overwhelm.
They just think, oh, no. No. No. No.
No. No. No. Do I have to deal
with all of that? Were you naturally
sort of good with the figures, or is
it something you learnt along the way?
Honestly,
it's something I just had to learn along
the way. I'm the type of person that
I have an objective. I then try
to then figure out. I don't I think
if you get
too caught up in how
and
all of those type of details, you kinda
get discouraged. Right? So even the self publishing,
it's not something that's, straight cut. Like, when
I first started researching that, I'm like, how
am I gonna do this? Like but then
I'm like, you know what?
Forget about that. Let's focus on,
you know, even writing something because people don't
even get past that part of actually writing
the book, because they are caught up on
how are they gonna market, how are they
gonna sell this, how are they gonna, you
know, and I think you have to focus
step by step on what it is that
your intention is
for what you're trying to do. So for
me, it's every step I've learned it on
the way. I've made plenty of mistakes, and
I think that's how I've learned it because
I've tried different things. Mhmm. I've tried shipping
with this company and then comparing it. I've
lost money because,
obviously shipping with one company,
and then not realizing the added cost of
each, even the envelopes.
Because I was buying envelopes sometimes from the
dollar store thinking that,
it was cheaper. But then now I realized,
no. I have to buy my envelopes in
bulk
so that each envelope will cost me this
much so that I know that when I'm
shipping that book,
65¢ of that is the envelope cost. You
know, you have to know these numbers,
in order to to do that. But you
know what? It doesn't come in the beginning.
It's it's you realize that over time, and
I think that that's okay. You don't need
to have everything figured out in the beginning.
You just have to go along this journey
with an open mind and be able to
learn. And what I would do,
because I had a full time job,
I'm a mother of 2 kids,
and I didn't have a lot of spare
time. What I did was while I was
working, anytime that I would have break, I
would listen to YouTube videos on people that
were self publishing. What were they doing? How
were they,
you know, resolving these issues of first shipping
and things like that? I was researching on
the site. Anytime that I had a spare
moment, I would listen to podcasts.
I would, just research a few things here
and there while I'm still writing the book
or while I'm still,
maybe printing with a create space looking for
solutions. Right? And then you learn from other
people, and then you learn
what when you do something, then that doesn't
work, then you do something else. I think
it's very important to be able to be
shifting your strategy or shifting the way that
you're doing things in order to accommodate
the things that are happening. If you're noticing
that something is not working out, to be
able to do that. So for me, that's
what I've been doing. I've never started,
any type of business.
My parents
immigrated to Canada when I was very young,
so I they did have numerous businesses and
things like that. So I'm not unfamiliar
with small business business mind,
but, in this sphere is something that I've
had to learn on on the job, basically.
Fantastic. Michelle. Great. And, I know that you
are a Twitter user and you're on Instagram
as well.
How which okay. Let me put it this
way. Which two platforms have you found to
be the most useful to you as an
author?
I really like Instagram.
Mhmm. Instagram
is my preferred method, but
I think Instagram
and Twitter has been the most valuable to
me
now. Even though I'm not that great at
at Twitter, I have not mastered Twitter.
I'm still researching it. I'm still trying different
things.
But I found that
the connection that you're able to make on
Twitter is amazing.
The the type of, researchers that you're able
to find in the community is just amazing
on Twitter. And recently,
with the publicity that I've had, I've had
a lot of reach out through Twitter.
So I'm now realizing
the value of Twitter
and,
that I need to focus more on it
and be more intentional
and producing
content
for specifically Twitter because I find that when
I I'm mainly on Instagram and I would
share my my content
with, Facebook and Twitter, and now I'm realizing,
no, you have to have different strategies for
each social media because the people that are
there are different Yeah. On each social media
platform. Right? So
I've I've I've found that,
Twitter is really,
important.
Some connections have come from there that I've
never expected.
I've had
emails and and and things opportunities that came
from that.
Instagram is where I've started.
It's where I'm most comfortable.
It's where I'm more present.
But I'm also working on other social media
platforms. It's not always easy to kinda juggle
all of these,
medias,
but I'm finding that, I think once you
find your voice in each one of them,
you could continue to do that. Yeah. Fantastic,
Michelle. Yeah. I really like that your insight
on Twitter there because,
yeah, it is something that I think a
lot of sisters in general are not really
savvy with Twitter or they don't feel that
comfortable in Twitter. But I agree with you
that the writing community, particularly children's books, but
just writing in general.
The writing community on Twitter really is quite
a special place and it's worth investing some
time to connect with the right people in
your niche,
you know, on on Twitter, Moshe Omar. Fantastic.
And then Instagram is more connect connecting with
potential readers, isn't it? And building that community.
Yeah.
I'm good now. Okay. So tell us about
publicity then because I do know
that you were able to hook some very,
very nice publicity for your books and for
your message and your mission. And that is
one of the reasons why I want to
speak to you because as I was
creating my latest trainings for social media training
for authors and author branding,
one of the things that I that I
that I learned along the way was this
whole thing of,
as an author, you are almost bigger than
your books.
You are a person with a message and
a mission. Your books are
an expression
of that message and that mission, but you
yourself as an author, your brand stands for
something. And I think I've seen you
getting that message across in your publicity. Tell
us about your PR and also kind of,
you know, how you were able to get
that PR and also your your perspective on
making that work for you as an author.
Absolutely. So
before I even published my book, I started
my Instagram account,
and I started telling people that this is
what I'm doing, and this is why I'm
doing it.
And for me, it started out as a
mission, like you said. It wasn't I was
not,
aspiring to be an author
beforehand, you know. I've always loved literature. I'm,
you know, passionate about children's book when I
had children, and
and notice the this lack of,
diversity within the children Muslim children's book. Right?
But it's not something that it was, something
that I was aspiring to do. So for
me, it's why.
The why was important for me. And when
you're trying to market a book,
it's not just buy my book because there's
billions of books out there. Right? But why
are we buying your book? What is your
message? So I've started that
before I even had the book on the
market. Right? So that my audience knew this
book is coming, and this is why we're
writing this book. And this is my message,
where I'm coming from. Why did I write
it? I had a personal story attached to
that. It was a story of my young
daughter
trying to identify and find herself
and,
me kind of reliving my childhood and seeing
the gaps and the things that I could
have benefited from
if I had these type of books. I
wanted books that reflected our culture,
our heritage, as well as our faith. Why
do children and Muslim children's book only in
book one way? Islam is not just one
umbrella of 1 nation. It's all nations. Right?
There is a diversity within our faith, and
it's important to showcase that. And when I
started purchasing,
Muslim children's book for my daughter,
she wasn't represented. And when I was purchasing,
you know,
a book that were,
focused on African features or African culture, her
faith wasn't reflected. So I needed something that
had both. That was my message. That was
my story. Where was I coming from with
that? So it's important to establish that. And
then my brand and my message started from
there. I said, you know, there is a
problem with this. There's no representation
of these two things,
you know, together.
This is why I'm producing this book. And
the audience was able to follow me along
the journey. I would provide samples of my,
you know, the the sketches of my illustrator
will send me. I would ask for feedback.
I would say, you know, I'm getting ready
to launch. I'm doing this. I'm doing that.
So my message was present the whole time.
I didn't it wasn't something that I developed
afterwards. It was not an afterthought. I was
very conscious of what my message was. I
was very conscious of what I wanted, this
book to do.
It wasn't a book just to make profits
or anything for me to kinda get out
there for anything. It was actually
it it was a representation
of this,
message and mission that I had personally.
So that I was clear from that from
the beginning,
and I think that it's very important as
an author to have that message,
already clear in your mind
before you try to
market any of your book or anything like
that. It's very important to have
your message and your your your brand identified
as what are you trying to accomplish? Why
are we why do we need this? Yeah.
Because there are 1,000, millions of books out
there that are dealing maybe with the same
subject, what sets you apart, and why have
you come to produce such a book? So
for me, I was clear from the beginning.
So what I what happened was I was
just telling my story to people. I would
say, you know, guys, I have this book.
This is why I wrote it. This is,
you know, this is what I'm doing. This
is, you know, in my social medias, I
was always,
preaching about it.
And,
one of the main things that I want
to let people know in terms of PR
and things like that is you have to
be able to make connections.
So don't be afraid to pitch yourself and
pitch your story to people.
The the way that it started for me
was that I had someone
locally that, I just kinda ran across from
people that I knew on on Instagram.
And I messaged her, and I said, hey.
You know what? I really love what you're
working on,
and, you know, this is what I'm doing,
and this is what I'm working on. Is
there, maybe could we meet and talk? It
wasn't like saying, you know, you should do
something with me or something like that. Let's
meet because I she was a host of
this community,
channel. And I said, you know what? I
really like the kind of stories that you
feature, and I'm working on certain things like
this. You might might be interested. Let's meet
up and have coffee and discuss this thing,
something, you know. And she really loved my
book. I provided her with a copy,
and she did an interview with me
with a small local channel. And, you know,
we did that interview. It was great.
And they broadcasted that. A few people saw
it. It was okay.
But what happened was is that while you
have to cultivate these, you know, connections, so
what happened is that months later, maybe 6
months later, I'm not sure, one day out
of the blue, she contacts me and she
tells me, you know, I've I've spoken of
you to this reporter from the Toronto Star,
and she wants to potentially do an interview
with you. I said, great. Okay. I'll contact
her, and I did.
And another tip is is that you have
to be ready.
Because these calls or these connections or these
things can happen in time. So you have
to be ready. You don't you can't scramble
at the last minute. So
either way, I knew what my message was.
I knew what I was doing. I there's
no need for me to be stressed about
anything. Right? So I called the reporter. She
actually did the interview right then and there
on the phone with me that same day.
I met up with their photographer
that same day,
after work,
and that article was published the that same
night, actually. Wow. Wow.
Yes.
So I was ready, and I was like,
okay, yes, yes, yes. Because
I believe that if you're ready,
you should just when the opportunity comes, you
say yes.
And that happened. Once that happened, I felt
like it was a floodgate because I then
did a few other interviews,
with local channels. I did an interview with,
a radio station.
And the fact that these that these articles
and these these things are living on the
Internet, I'm still getting residual,
kind of
contacts from them. You know? I got recently
a call from a publishing company here in
Canada,
and that came from them seeing
the articles that I did or those local
channels. I
got yeah. Really great. Mhmm.
Absolutely. Can I just say can I just
say one second? I
have to jump in here because,
my talk on, author you know, building your
author platform. And one of the things I
say in that training is
when you have a platform,
you're more attractive to publishers.
Right? Because they see you. They see that,
okay, this person is serious about making connections,
about serving, and they have people who love
and trust them. And basically,
This is great. I'm so pleased to hear
that. May Allah put in whatever it is,
you know, that comes from that. But that's
really great for us to know as well,
that this can be one of the results
of having that kind of attention and that
kind of
press. I mean, yes. Truly. And I feel
like, of course, that added attention or that
that that period of time of PR really
boosted my sales. Like, my my book was
everywhere. I wanna hear that. That's what I
wanna do. Yeah. That's it. It was on
the local channels. I was able to,
finish out all the books that I had
printed. I had I I did a second
print of my book because I I sold
out.
So it was amazing because I had all
this attention.
But mainly for me was that I was
able to reach more audience, you know. And
it also adds to your credibility
for any time that you wanna reach out
to other PRs or to other,
you know, news media or anything like that
to let them know, hey,
I've done this interview. This is what I'm
about, you know,
Would you be interested in doing something together?
Yeah. So that's also an added bonus. And
also the fact that any of these interviews,
any of these, medias that you do live
on the Internet forever. So people are able
to find you, and that's what's happening is
that I'm still able to get calls and
things like that that,
from just that, month of publicity that I
got in April.
Wonderful, Michelle. That's fantastic.
In terms of the publicity, did you have
a press release? Did you send a press
release out to local media? Did you actually
have that kind of system or was it
just
like, reaching people individually via Twitter and Instagram?
I did I did have, like, you know,
a small press. I didn't I I would
just do kind of, like, emails where I
would send, but I found that it was
harder
to get anyone
unless you had, like you know, you kinda
have to have connections. Yes. Because it's hard
to do cold calls. It's hard to do
cold pitches. Right? Yeah. But at least I've
I've found,
once I did that first article,
I I I felt like they all saw
it, and then they all wanted to interview
me because they all did it within the
same week. Right? Yes. So and and those
were the the medias that I was pitching
to before
that I wasn't able to kinda get into.
So I felt that once you had that
crack of a door open,
it was easier for me to get through
to anyone. And I feel like now that
I've done that, I still have those contacts.
You know, they've invited me back on for,
you know, when I have my next book
and when I do my launches and things
like that. So I think that it's it's
a bit difficult at first when you're a
known unknown author,
but I would still do things like,
they had,
self publishing
days at the library. I would go there.
They took pictures of me. They put her
on Twitter. Some people saw it. Like, you
know, things like that. You still have to
get out there and do something. Right?
You never know the day that your break
is gonna come. But if you stay ready
and that you stay consistent,
I believe that at that time, you're able
to then,
take,
you know, take part of that opportunity
and and and pounce on it. Because
sometimes it doesn't come as easy as other
people have it,
but that's the reason why it's so important
to cultivate these relationships
and to,
continue telling your message because you never know
who's gonna hear it and who's gonna pass
it on for you. Yeah. Masha'Allah, I I
agree 100%.
And I just have one last question for
you. Do you feel that
your identity as a Muslim, as a Muslim
of color,
as somebody who is standing for diversity and
understanding,
Do you think that that was an advantage
for you in the current climate?
An advantage? You know, it's not something that
I thought about initially. Right? I didn't even
know that there's after when I started writing
and I got into
following all of these accounts and being more
aware of the space is when I found
that there is now a greater push for
diversity
in general,
not only,
I just within children Muslim children's books or
anything like that, there is a greater awareness.
I am so happy to see that because
for me diversity is, within the literature,
community. It's so important, so vital, because I
remember as a young child, I didn't have
access to this. You know? And I hated
seeing my daughter go through the same thing
that I was going through where she's trying
to identify
her
sense of belonging and and her sense of
beauty being attached to these, all the things
that are being pushed in the market right
now. Right? So for me,
to see that as an advantage,
it's it wasn't part of my strategy. Right?
It's who you are, isn't it?
I didn't I didn't say, you know, let's
write books because this, and it's gonna be
an obnoxious stout. That was not it, actually.
You know?
I thought actually it would be harder because
there are so many,
great,
Muslim children's book out there. Even though there
isn't many that feature, black Muslims, there are
so many good ones, and I do know
how many people would resonate with the semesters
that I'm pushing to say, you know, Islam
is not just looking one way. It's it
doesn't have to be only from one country.
There's so much diversity in that.
Let's maybe give our children that are black
and
Muslims. And for me, it's not even,
from one country. Like, when I say people
think that because I am from a Somali
descent, that I'm writing books for Somali community.
That's not it. For me, it's being of
color and being Muslim. Where does that fit
in? Because
you have as a as a as a
Muslim woman that is of color, that is
wearing a hijab, and that is Muslim, that
is wearing her faith on her face,
I am,
you know, totally aware of the attention
that I am projecting out there. And one
of the reasons that I'm producing these books
is to give that confidence
for my daughter and other kids
to own not only their their their features
as as people of color, but also their
identity as Muslims. So for me, that's that's
what I'm trying to accomplish.
If it's, a bonus and that I have
a space I know I have a space
because I saw a lack of it. Right?
So I have a space, and I'm doing
what I, I need to do in order
to fill that gap, and I'm hoping that
people will resonate with that.
It's really, really wonderful to hear, you know,
the success of your endeavors.
And, I believe your next book is coming
out just after your baby is due. Is
that correct?
Well, I'm working on it. I was announcing
on Instagram today that I did receive the
the proof of it. So I'm finalizing.
I'm in the midst of it. I'm hoping
to have it done before I have this
baby so that I can have some downtime
afterwards. Alright. But, yeah, inshallah, it's gonna be
out very soon.
And,
I'm so
surprised that I was actually because it's my
first book has only been on the market
for a year, that that I was able
to do this other book next
year.
It's I'm
I'm trying to do this.
That's wonderful,
And,
underneath this video,
hopefully, we'll have a preorder link so that
people can order the next book. Excuse me.
Okay. Well, It's been fantastic listening to you
and learning about your journey.
May Allah give you success in all your
affairs,
and,
we'll see you on hopefully in the chat
section, Insha'Allah, as we discuss,
your interview
and, do some quizzes and see who was
paying attention and who was not paying attention.
We'll see you in the watch party,
Thank you so much for the opportunity, and
I'm so happy to be part of this
community. Thank you. Alhamdulillah.
Wa Alaikum, everyone. My name is Rahma Roda.
I am the author of this book. It's
called Muhammed's Quest,
and I am so honored and happy to
be part of the Muslimah Writers Summit.
So I look forward to seeing all of
you on July 6th.