Naima B. Robert – Advice for Muslim Women on Desire, Sex and Intimacy Issues @amirahzaky TMC E.9

Naima B. Robert
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The importance of educating men and women on their natural and sexual preferences is emphasized, as it is crucial for managing desire for sex. Precautions are taken to prevent painful experiences and prioritize pleasure, with a focus on scheduling sex and finding it pleasurable for both men and women. A natural development for men to be receptive to love is emphasized, with resources available for women to email for help and resources shared on YouTube. A focus is placed on preventing divorce within the Muslim community, but also helping women overcome struggles with sex.
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Welcome

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to another marriage conversation.

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And,

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Ameera, zaki, assalamu alaikum.

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I thank you so much for having me.

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It's absolutely wonderful to connect with you again.

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Masha'Allah. We've been privileged to share space many

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times. Alhamdulillah.

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And, you know, it's it's wonderful for me

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to see

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you continue to grow in the work that

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you do.

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And in case there's anyone here who does

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not know the work that you do, will

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you give them the elevator pitch as to

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who Amira Zaki is, and what is it

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that she does, and who does she help?

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So I call myself a * educator, but

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I never envisaged growing up that this is

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the work that I would be doing. But

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I'm grateful that I get to

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I get to do this work alhamdulillah. And

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it all started from my own personal experience

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of going through a condition called vaginismus, which

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we will be talking about in today's,

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in today's discussion inshallah, what vaginismus is. And

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essentially, it started out with me going through

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the condition and then overcoming this difficult condition

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and then helping other women to overcome it.

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And so I started out really being a

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vaginismus coach helping women to overcome this difficult

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situation.

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And from that really seeing that

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the cause of vaginismus is such that there's

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a lack of education with regards to *.

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And so I kind of broadened my role

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and decided that actually I need to

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educate people properly about * within an Islamic

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framework.

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So I I kind of see that I

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have 2 main roles, * educator and Fajunism

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as coach.

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Amazing. I love it. And, subhanAllah, just as

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you're saying,

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before we jumped on this, I put a

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post up, didn't I, on Instagram

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just to ask people questions. You know, I'm

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gonna be speaking to an expert. Do you

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have any questions about, you know, your first

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night, your first time?

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Tons of responses.

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Tons and tons of questions. And, really, as

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you say,

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it points

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to a lack of knowledge that we there's

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this big gap in our knowledge

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within the Muslim community about

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*.

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So

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I guess my big question to you to

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kick us off today is,

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what are we not telling

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What are we not teaching

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our

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girls initially? We can also talk about boys.

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But what are we not teaching our girls

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about *?

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The main thing I feel is that we're

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not teaching

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girls,

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Muslim girls especially,

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that Allah created * for them to enjoy.

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There is a certain prescription

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around *. Yes, like Allah has given us

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certain things that we should follow certain things

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we should abstain from with regards to *,

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definitely.

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But unfortunately, what we're kind of seeing mostly

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in the Muslim community

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is that

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* is this act that you only do

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when you're married, which is correct, but it's

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only for a man's pleasure.

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And it's not something that a woman or

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a girl is meant to enjoy. And I'm

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here to say that actually, that is not

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what true Islam is telling us and teaching

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us

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authentically and traditionally within Islam.

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* Islam is a very * positive religion.

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Yes, there are boundaries less there are certain

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rights responsibilities. Yes, there are certain guidelines that

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we're meant to follow. But essentially, it is

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a positive religion when it comes to *.

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And

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* was created

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for girls for women to enjoy, you know,

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at the right age, when they're mentally and

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physically ready. Obviously, it was created for male

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pleasure too. But I really want girls

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to have that foundation of

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whenever they are of age and they are

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ready to be married and they get to

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enjoy this act of *, that Allah

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created it for their pleasure.

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And in order to experience that pleasure, there

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does need to be education involved.

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There does need to be debunking of any

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myths. There does need to be

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helping

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a girl to understand any fears that she

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has or any questions that she has I'm

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really teaching her about * and about her

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body,

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in a way that isn't shameful, in a

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way that doesn't kind of shut shut down

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her innate curiosity with regards to *? Because

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I think the majority of people on this

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planet at some point in their life start

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to think about *. It's kind of within

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our fitra to start thinking about * and

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our sexuality and about how Allah created our

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body. And we see it all around us,

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like especially if you live in the West.

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We are in this kind of hypersexualized society.

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Whenever you turn on the TV or, you

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know, go on the Internet, there are gonna

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be images and things that you see. And

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I want

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Muslim girls to understand that, you know, that

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is what the media wants you to learn

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about *. But there is a much better

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way of learning about * one that was

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created

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specifically

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for you.

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And it can be an enjoyable

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experience to educate yourself

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about this one aspect of your life.

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The Internet dropped. Oh my goodness. No worries.

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That's okay. I'm not sure where I got

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up here.

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Okay. Let me pull

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So when a girl's

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ready to be married, I really want a

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girl before she reaches

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before she reaches marriage, I want her to

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feel ready for whenever she does have first

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time * in that marriage. I don't want

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her to be going into that marriage,

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dreading her kind of so called wedding night

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or dreading her first time experience.

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Because what we are still seeing in this

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day and age is that there are a

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lot of stories about first time *, specifically

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with regards to pain. If you are a

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woman, that first time * is meant to

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be painful. And I'm a strong believer that

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it's not it's not meant to be painful.

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If you have the right education

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about your body, it is very much possible

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for for a female to experience pain free

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first time *. And that is what I

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am a big advocate for is really educating

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a girl to be mentally and physically ready

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for that first time.

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Because what we are seeing in the Muslim

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community is that

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if a Muslim is able to wait until

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they're married to have *, which is a

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difficult thing to do. But if they are

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able to do it and may Allah help

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them to do that, if they are able

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to do it, typically what we're seeing is

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that

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men

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are looking forward to their first time,

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whereas women are kind of feeling the opposite.

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They're kind of dreading their wedding night or

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dreading first time *. And it's unfortunate because

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of it's those stories and those narratives that

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we are still teaching our girls that it's

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meant to be painful. It's just supposed to

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hurt.

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Whereas actually, that's not true.

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I want girls to be feeling the same

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way as men I want. I want women

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to be feeling the same way as men

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for their 1st night, I want them to

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be thinking, I can't wait to get married.

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I can't wait to enjoy this experience with

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my new husband. I want them to be

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looking forward to it. And that comes from

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the right education.

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And education, I believe,

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is so important to help us with overcoming

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those fears that we may have with regards

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to *.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. This is great, guys.

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Comment below

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what your thoughts are on this, because

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it is something that, obviously,

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if you look at it, it makes sense.

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Obviously, you know, we're all grown. We know

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that's Allah

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created *. It's pleasurable.

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It it's there's barakah in it. You know,

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it's ibadah. All of these amazing things.

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But it's almost like

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we can't get to grips with that in

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the real world context in a halal way.

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You know, we're all used to

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* as a kind of

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smutty thing and, like, you know, like, a

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bit dirty Mhmm. But not so much as

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you're saying in this really kind of wholesome

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way. Because if a girl did say, I

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am so looking forward to my wedding night,

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you know, people will be looking at her

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like, giving her the side eye and say,

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especially if she's a virgin. But Yeah. As

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you say, it is an issue of of,

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of education,

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and perspective. And it's interesting that you mentioned

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fear because I'm just reading through these questions.

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Listen to these questions about the first night.

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So how should the wife prepare for her

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first time?

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I have lots of questions to ask.

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How to start, who should make the first

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move, and how how to react if the

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first move makes me uncomfortable.

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Is intimacy on that night expected?

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What tips would you give on how to

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discuss intimacy with him? Is it okay healthy

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to have * on the 1st night or

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should I wait? Does it have to be

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on the wedding night? Does this have any

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Islamic value?

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I'm I'm hearing some fear coming through. I'm

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hearing some hesitancy.

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What should we

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what should we be preparing for on our

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1st night anyway?

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So it's so interesting because what we are

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still seeing in the Muslim community is that

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most parents are raising their children,

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with this narrative perhaps of

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we don't talk about * in this house.

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* is bad, * is shameful,

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and don't have * until you're married.

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And then there is at the same time

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this expectation that when you are married, you're

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expected to have lots of *. Or, you

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know, if you're a girl, you're kind of

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expected to give * to your husband as

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if * is something to give. But that's

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still the narrative. And so I find it

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really interesting

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when you ponder upon that that,

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you know, you're not you're not meant to

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talk about *, you're not meant to learn

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about *. And then when you're married, you're

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meant to know everything. To know everything. Exactly.

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You're meant to drop everything and then have

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* immediately on that wedding line. So

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a lot of those questions were, is intimacy

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expected?

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In short, the answer is yes as expected.

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But really that isn't the right question. The

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question should be Islamically, what does it say

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about are we kind of meant to have

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* on that first night? And the answer

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is no, you don't have to have *

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on that first night on the actual night

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of your wedding. You can if you want

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to and if you feel mentally and physically

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ready, again, that will come from having the

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right education beforehand.

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But if you are newly married and you

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kind of perhaps got to know your spouse

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in that kind of traditional way,

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you probably won't feel mentally and physically ready

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on that actual night. You might want to

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continue getting to know your new spouse,

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before you feel mentally and physically ready to

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have first time * with him or her.

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So

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in terms of

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*, it doesn't need to be on the

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actual wedding night. It can be a few

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days later, a few weeks later. It could

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even be a few months later. There is

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nothing in Islam. There is nothing in, you

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know, the Quran or the authentic sunnah or

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hadith that stipulates that it must happen by

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a certain day or a certain time. There

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is no time limit for consummation of the

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marriage. The marriage is still valid and it

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really is very dependent

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on the couple.

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So some couples might be ready immediately and

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some will need more time and none of

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the like, there is no right or wrong

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there. It really is. If you stop, stop

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and think about the act of * is

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a two way thing.

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So it doesn't make sense for just one

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person to be ready because

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it's going to involve another person. You're not

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going to have * on your own. So

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it doesn't matter if you're ready on your

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own. It needs to be that the other

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person is ready too.

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And really see * as kind of like

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teamwork between you and your spouse. If you're

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ready, but your spouse isn't. So let's say,

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for example, the man in this context happens

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to be ready mentally and physically and really

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wants to have first time * with his

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new wife. But the wife in this context

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isn't ready. She doesn't feel mentally ready or

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physically ready.

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The husband should be thinking, what can I

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do to

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bring up my wife to my level? I'm

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physically ready, mentally ready. How can I help

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her? What fears does she have? What does

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she want to talk about, to help prepare

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her? What can I do to really support

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her and bring her there? Because it is

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teamwork like marriage is marriage is teamwork. And

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so this one part of your marriage *

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is going to need to involve teamwork to

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help both of you be on the same

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page and sharper.

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Sounds like what you're saying is that this

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education that we need is not just for

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girls. This is for for guys as well.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely. So if that I'm thinking the more

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that a young man understands

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about what we're talking about, you know, what

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what the role of * is, you know,

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you know, what * means for a woman,

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you know, woman's pleasure, etcetera, etcetera.

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I'm wondering whether that will equip him to

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even have this conversation because I'm just because

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I'm just imagining a scenario where a boy

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doesn't know anything about what we're talking about

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Mhmm. And his wife is scared.

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He wouldn't even have the vocabulary, you know.

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He wouldn't even have

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the ability to have a conversation with her

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about it. I think he would just probably

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feel very sort of frustrated and rejected and

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and not understand, well, why doesn't she want

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me? Do you know what I mean?

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Education.

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I feel like,

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when you asked me what do girls need

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to know, I forgot to say that really

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girls need to educate themselves about their bodies

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and about * and about the desire for

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* and how to manage their desire for

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*. If you know that they've made the

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decision that I want to follow Allah's prescription

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for * and I want to wait until

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I'm married to have * for the first

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time. How do I manage my natural desire

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for * that I may have before I'm

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married? How do I manage that in a

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healthy hollow way? That also applies to boys

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as well and to men as well, that

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they need to educate themselves about their own

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bodies. They need to educate themselves about how

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to manage their desire for * before they're

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married. And they also need to educate themselves

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about the experience of the opposite * of

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their future wife. So you don't just need

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to learn about things, from the lens of

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your own gender. You can also learn about

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things from the opposite gender, too. And that

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also applies to girls. Girls can need to

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understand

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the male sexual anatomy, the male sexual response

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or desire for *,

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and know that there are different types of

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desire and this applies to males and females.

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The the two main types of desire, they're

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known as spontaneous desire and responsive desire. Most

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people are familiar with spontaneous desire. They may

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not know it has that term, but I'll

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briefly explain what it is. Spontaneous desire typically

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happens when you have that kind of feeling

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of initial attraction perhaps towards someone or maybe

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something you see an image you see and

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you feel a desire. You maybe feel a

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physical response within your body and you know

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that you are perhaps sexually turned on or

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sexually aroused. And you desire to be intimate

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sexually with someone that is spontaneous as I

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kind of happens immediately spontaneously.

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The other type of desire is known as

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responsive desire

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where it's very dependent

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on the context the person is in. Both

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types of desire spontaneous and responsive can apply

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to men and women.

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With responsive desire, it's not from an initial

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spark or initial attraction to someone. It's someone

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feeling safe, feeling comfortable, feeling relaxed,

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having the right environment physically around them, but

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also being in the right mental and emotional

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environment. When all those things are in place,

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they then respond positively to those different stimuli,

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and then they start to feel sexually aroused

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and desire *.

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So,

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both girls and boys need to know that

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because typically what we're noticing is that

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females tend to experience more responsive desire and

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men tend to experience more spontaneous desire. But

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it is possible for women to have spontaneous

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and it is possible for for men to

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experience responsive. So it is definitely

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fluid and dynamic. But I feel like if

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boys especially and men especially understand that that

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oh, my future wife

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may experience more responsive desire. She may not

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have the same desire where, you know, when

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I look at my wife, I'm instantly attracted

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and want to have * on the spot.

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She may not feel that way.

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And if she does experience more responsive desire,

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what can I do as the husband to

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give her the right stimuli, the right environment,

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physically the right environment, mentally, emotionally

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to help her become sexually turned on? So

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that is definitely really important.

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And * education is gender neutral. We need

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to be teaching our boys about it, our

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young men about it, just like we need

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to be teaching our girls and young women

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about it.

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Amazing.

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So

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we've talked about the kind of, you know,

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maybe jitters, wedding night nerves, you know, just

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just

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the shyness, those types of things that could

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potentially lead, someone to to not feel ready,

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on their at their from their first time.

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But some couples really struggle,

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on their first time. Don't they? It's not

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so much that they don't want to. It's

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that they can't. Mhmm. Talk to us a

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little bit about that that situation.

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Yeah. So this situation that you're describing is

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a lot more common than people

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imagine.

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I'll give you a kind of story from

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my own personal experience.

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I, as I mentioned, I went through something

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called vaginismus, which I'll talk about in a

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moment. But I basically wasn't able to consummate

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my marriage or have * for the first

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time on my wedding night. So I was

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kind of raised to I waited until I

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got married with Hamzalah to try and experience

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first time * with my new husband.

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And on that wedding night,

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we tried to have * and it was

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very difficult and very painful.

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And actually, in the lead up to my

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wedding night, I remember so before I was

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married, I remember thinking, Oh my God, in

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a few months time I'm going to be

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married.

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And, I remember hearing stories when I was

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a teenager

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that first time * for a girl or

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first time * for a woman is going

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to be really painful. There may even be

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blood involved.

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And so I naturally started to feel really

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nervous and worried and scared actually for first

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time *, worried that, oh my God, I'm

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going to have to go through pain. The

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majority of humans never want to experience pain

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and I felt really scared.

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So here I was newly married, trying to

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have * for the first time. And it

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was exactly like those stories have told me.

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It was really painful.

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So much so that, and I'm gonna use

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words that we need to become more comfortable

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with. I'm gonna use words like penis and

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* so much so that my husband's penis

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wasn't able to go inside my * because

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of how painful it was. And at first

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I didn't understand why I didn't know what

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was going on in my body.

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And I kind of just thought, okay, everyone

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warned me about this. Everyone told me that

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it's kind of meant to hurt. And so

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I accepted it. And then

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because it was so painful, I said to

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my husband, look, we can't go any further,

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let's stop. And my husband was understanding. He

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kind of put it down to the first

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time nerves and we did stop and we

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said, we'll try again another day.

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So we waited a little while and we

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tried again and the same thing happened. But

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this time it felt so much worse because

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my brain was remembering that first experience of

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pain. And so

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I didn't notice, but my whole body was

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tensing up. My legs started to shake. And

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when we did try again, the same thing

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happened. We weren't able to have * again.

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And this continued for weeks months

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and it started to put a really big

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strain on our marriage.

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And again, we were clueless. We didn't know

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why this was happening. We didn't know how

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to help ourselves. My husband didn't really understand

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what was going on.

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It continued to put that strain on our

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marriage emotionally and mentally and even spiritually.

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And

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it kind of a year went by and

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my husband and I ended up having a

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conversation

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where he essentially said to me, look, Amira,

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I don't really know how to help you.

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I don't know how to help you overcome

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your fear. I don't know how

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to make it less pain.

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I don't know how to make it less

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painful for you, but I don't know how

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long we're going to continue living like this.

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And if we live like this for many

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more months and many years, we're probably going

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to end up getting divorced from this.

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And he didn't say it in a threatening

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way. He just kind of said it in

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this realistic way where he was doing everything

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he caught, he did. He was supporting me.

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He was being patient, but he literally didn't

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know what else to do.

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And so after that, I had to make

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the decision myself that

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I need to find a way to treat

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myself. I need to find a way to

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overcome this.

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And I felt too embarrassed and ashamed to

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go and, you know, seek medical help.

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And the reason for that is I knew

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that if I went to see my doctor,

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they may want to kind of check me

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physically down there. And I felt too scared

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about that. So I was like, okay, let

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me go on the internet. Let me try

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and treat myself.

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And so I started searching online for solutions

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to painful *. And through that research, I

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came across the term vaginismus.

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When I read about what vaginismus was,

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it was like a light bulb moment. I

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felt this huge sense of relief that, oh

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my God, finally, I'm I understand what I'm

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going through now that there's a medical term

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for this condition I'm going through. And it

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immediately made me feel less alone because up

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until that point, I felt like I was

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abnormal. I felt like I was the only

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woman who can't have * on this planet.

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That's how I felt. And

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I read about vaginismus and I, and essentially

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let me talk about what it is now.

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Vaginismus

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is a condition in which a woman's pelvic

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floor muscles.

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So the pelvic floor muscles are the muscles

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that surround your *.

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So in vaginismus,

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the pelvic floor muscles

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contract

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automatically

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in voluntarily.

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And when those pelvic floor muscles contract,

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it makes the * really narrow.

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I didn't know that that was happening to

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me until I read about vaginismus.

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And you can imagine if the * is

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becoming narrow

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now, if something's trying to go in such

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as during penetrative *, it's gonna be painful

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and difficult. There's gonna be that friction due

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to the narrowing of the *

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from those pelvic floor muscles contracting.

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So this is what was happening to me.

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I was experiencing vaginismus and it felt good

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to know that it had a name to

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it.

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And then I started thinking, okay, this is

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what I'm going through.

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Surely there must be a way to treat

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it. There must be a way to overcome

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it. And that really came from

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starting the journey of educating myself about *.

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I didn't realize that was like what, that

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was what I was doing, but that's really

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where my journey

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towards * education for myself started is I

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had to educate myself about my own body,

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about my female sexual anatomy. I had to

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educate myself about

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how do I now get these muscles to

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relax if the issue is that they're contracting

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on their own. How do I consciously

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get them to be relaxed so that my

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* is nice and wide and open for

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pain free penetration?

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And so I took that journey. I eventually

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was able to overcome it. I was eventually

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able to have

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pain free * with my husband truly for

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the first time.

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So I'm saying that because how long after

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was that? How long after? Subhanallah, it literally

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took me about

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4 or 5 weeks to overcome it, which

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is a short amount of time. For most

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women, it takes a bit longer. But for

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me, it was like it just was like

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that. I don't know how to describe it.

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It was like the initial education.

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So actually I say 4 or 5 weeks,

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but maybe it was longer actually. It was

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4 or 5 weeks once I bought myself

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a set of tools. They're known as dilators.

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They're essentially like tampons, but they come from,

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like, really small sizes, and then they kind

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of gradually increase. It was from the moment

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I ordered those dilators and received the dilators

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and started using them. From then, it's when

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it took me 4 to 5 weeks.

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But How long after your marriage was that?

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So how many That was more than a

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year later. More than a year. So at

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least a year and a half after my

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marriage.

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So

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I was then I treated myself,

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and that treatment wasn't just physical treatment using

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the dilators. That was one part of it.

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But it was also,

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you know, I didn't realize I was doing

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this, but I was also,

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healing myself mentally from those fears and those

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myths that I believed about *.

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And

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I was then able to finally have

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true first time *

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in a completely pain free way. And why

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I say true first time is because

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the previous times when I tried to have

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first time * when they were painful,

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I don't see it as

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my true first time. I saw it as

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kind of like

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something that I wasn't meant to experience. I

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wasn't meant to experience painful first time *,

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but I did And it was painful because

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of the lack of education.

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And so once I had the right education

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and I treated myself and my husband's penis

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was finally able to fully go in my

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*.

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And I saw for myself, wow, there is

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no pain. I take that as my true

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first time. And that is what I want

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for every single woman

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is to, if they're not married, to go

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into a marriage with the right education about

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her body, knowing how to relax her pelvic

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floor muscles

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and experience

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true pain free first time *.

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And,

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when I eventually told my family about it,

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and so I didn't tell them initially, I

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told them many years later,

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I told my siblings initially before my parents

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when I told them,

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and I remember I was, I was telling

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them because it was one of my younger

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sisters, she was about to be married.

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And for some reason, one of them asked

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me, what was your first time like? And

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I said to one of my siblings,

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I couldn't have * on my wedding night.

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And they were shocked. They were like, what?

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Like, what do you mean you couldn't have

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*? And I was like, it was I

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didn't have no idea.

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No, exactly. I said,

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look, it just, it couldn't happen. It was

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too painful. And I went through this condition

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called vaginismus and I explained it to them

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and they were surprised. And actually they were

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shocked. They were like, why didn't you tell

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us? We would have, you know, helped you,

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all of that kind of stuff. I would

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have been shocked too. Yeah. Exactly. Laugh of

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not of not nothing, just pretending like everything

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is yep. Everything's fine. Everything's normal. Yeah. Your

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mom never asked you. Your aunties never asked

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you after the fact. How was it? Are

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you okay or anything like that? No. They

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didn't. Yeah. No. They didn't. And I and

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I don't blame them for that. My mom

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was raised you know, she grew up in

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Thailand and, you know, I suppose even in

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Thailand, she wasn't raised Muslim, but she is

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now.

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Even in Thailand, I think it's a topic

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that you discuss, you know, talking about *.

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And the same with my dad. He grew

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up in Egypt. You know, he never spoke

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to me about *. I'm not gonna ask

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you. That's a that's a good one.

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Exactly. So no, neither of my parents or

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family members or anyone asked me initially. I

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think they just assumed

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that it would all be fine. They I

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think they just assumed that

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I was no longer a virgin. I think

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that was the assumption that they made, but

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they didn't ask me how it was.

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But yeah, no, alhamdulillah. And so I think

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what the point I was trying to make

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through sharing this whole story is that

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there is this there is so much expectation

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on Muslim couples to do it on their

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1st night, to have * for the first

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time on that night. And of course you

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can. It's now halal for you to have

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*,

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but only do it. Only have

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only

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only engage in your first sexual experience with

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your new spouse.

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If both of you are ready mentally, emotionally,

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spiritually, physically,

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And if 1 or both of you are

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not, work together, you're now in this marriage,

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you're now a team, work together

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to raise each other up, to get to

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that same point where you're both on the

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same page, because that is going to be

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a much more

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pleasant,

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pleasurable,

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enjoyable,

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intimate experience.

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When you do engage in it, it will

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be so much more worth it, inshallah,

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rather than going through the frustration

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and disappointment of your first time because of

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the lack of education and the lack of

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teamwork

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is bringing each other to the same page.

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But on that note, what I do want

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to say is

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I feel like * is a skill.

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And

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initially your first few times when you have

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*, it may not be what you imagine.

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It may not feel the way you expect.

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You may not experience

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this amazing kind of mind blowing pleasure. You

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may not experience * and all of that

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is normal. It's going to require you to

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take time to, you know, tune into your

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body, know what works for your body, work

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together with your spouse,

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play with each other, have fun with each

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other's bodies. You now get to be intimate

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in this way,

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that you can't be intimate that way with

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anyone else. So just take your time with

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it. It doesn't have to be perfect.

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* is not a performance.

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* is really this experience and it really

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is a spiritual experience now that you're married

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because

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when you are engaging in sexual intimacy with

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your spouse,

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you are being rewarded for it. Even if

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you know, the act of * doesn't happen.

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If you are being sexual with some with

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your spouse, you are being rewarded for that.

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If you are thinking about how can I

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give, how can I make this more pleasurable

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for my spouse? How can I also,

00:28:01 --> 00:28:04

how can I also receive pleasure and being

00:28:04 --> 00:28:05

willing to receive pleasure? And I think this

00:28:05 --> 00:28:07

applies a lot more to women than men,

00:28:07 --> 00:28:08

but it can be both ways

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is seeing * as this act between 2

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people, but also seeing *

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as a giving and receiving, which I think

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is the essence of marriage is being able

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to give

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as much as receive, and that definitely applies

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to to to *. Alhamdulillah.

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I remember,

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last time we had a conference, and I

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if I remember correctly, it was it was

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in that talk that you talked about

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a woman's

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responsibility

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in that sexual relationship

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to understand herself

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and understand

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I remember you were talking about, you know,

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understanding

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what gets you to that place and taking

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responsibility for that. Do you wanna just talk

00:28:50 --> 00:28:51

a little bit about that?

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Yeah. So I was saying that I I

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really believe that it's a woman's responsibility

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to prioritize her *.

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But actually more than that, it's really prioritized

00:29:02 --> 00:29:03

pleasure.

00:29:04 --> 00:29:05

I think a lot of Muslim women have

00:29:05 --> 00:29:07

been raised to believe that

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* isn't something that was created for them.

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It was created for

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a man's * or

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male pleasure.

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And it's not necessary for you as the

00:29:17 --> 00:29:20

woman to experience pleasure and it doesn't matter

00:29:20 --> 00:29:22

if you as the woman don't experience *.

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None of that comes from Islam.

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Islam

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teaches us that Allah created * for both

00:29:28 --> 00:29:31

male and female pleasure. If you dive into

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authentic sources, dive into what the Quran and

00:29:34 --> 00:29:36

the sunnah and the Hadith say about pleasure,

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it's really that pleasure was created for both

00:29:39 --> 00:29:41

the man and the woman. And so

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when you understand that as a woman, it's

00:29:44 --> 00:29:47

important to prioritize that. And

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remember that Allah created * for your pleasure

00:29:50 --> 00:29:53

as a woman. And so if Allah created

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* for your pleasure as a woman, you

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need to go and seek it. You need

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to go and seek it out.

00:31:17 --> 00:31:18

So I remember

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when you delivered a talk and you were

00:31:20 --> 00:31:22

talking about a woman's responsibility

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for

00:31:24 --> 00:31:27

her own kind of her own sexual state

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and her part in that sexual relationship,

00:31:30 --> 00:31:33

and how, you know, her being aware of

00:31:33 --> 00:31:34

what turns her on,

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of what gets her to that place, what

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gets her in the mood

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allows it actually empowers her

00:31:40 --> 00:31:41

to feel sexual

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without the need for, for example, her husband

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to necessarily

00:31:46 --> 00:31:48

perform x, y, and zed. Mhmm. And I

00:31:48 --> 00:31:50

remember, you know, I I firstly, for me,

00:31:50 --> 00:31:52

it really it kind of made so much

00:31:53 --> 00:31:54

sense because so many of us as women

00:31:54 --> 00:31:56

obviously, we complain about not being in the

00:31:56 --> 00:31:57

mood. Right?

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And, like, it's like he always wants it,

00:31:59 --> 00:32:00

but it's I'm not in the mood

00:32:01 --> 00:32:03

because it's all up here. And when you

00:32:03 --> 00:32:03

said

00:32:04 --> 00:32:05

taking responsibility

00:32:05 --> 00:32:08

for your own part that you play in

00:32:08 --> 00:32:10

that dance, it made so much sense to

00:32:10 --> 00:32:12

me. And I think if if more women

00:32:13 --> 00:32:15

understood what that means and were able to

00:32:15 --> 00:32:17

kind of leverage their ability

00:32:17 --> 00:32:20

to get themselves to that place, I think

00:32:20 --> 00:32:22

maybe would avoid a lot of the kind

00:32:22 --> 00:32:24

of mismatch in sexual desire between men and

00:32:24 --> 00:32:26

women. But just explain what you meant by

00:32:26 --> 00:32:28

that sort of a woman taking responsibility for

00:32:28 --> 00:32:31

her own kind of her the the role

00:32:31 --> 00:32:32

she plays in the sexual relationship.

00:32:33 --> 00:32:35

Yeah. So what we're seeing obviously is that

00:32:35 --> 00:32:36

most,

00:32:37 --> 00:32:40

most men, regardless of religion really, most men

00:32:40 --> 00:32:42

have kind of been programmed that * was

00:32:42 --> 00:32:44

created for them and their pleasure.

00:32:44 --> 00:32:46

If you're programmed that way, it's a belief

00:32:46 --> 00:32:48

that you have. So imagine that you're a

00:32:48 --> 00:32:50

man and you're programmed that when you have

00:32:50 --> 00:32:52

*, it's meant to be pleasurable for you.

00:32:52 --> 00:32:54

You're meant to * an * and it's

00:32:54 --> 00:32:56

meant to feel really good. And so men

00:32:56 --> 00:32:58

believe that, oh, wow, * was created for

00:32:58 --> 00:33:00

me. I meant to experience pleasure. I meant

00:33:00 --> 00:33:02

to * and it's meant to feel really

00:33:02 --> 00:33:05

good. So they great. Yeah. So they they

00:33:05 --> 00:33:07

they go into some men go into a

00:33:07 --> 00:33:09

sexual experience with their wives

00:33:10 --> 00:33:12

expecting it to feel good and they will

00:33:12 --> 00:33:13

do

00:33:13 --> 00:33:15

whatever they need to do with their wife,

00:33:15 --> 00:33:17

whatever stimulation they need to receive from their

00:33:17 --> 00:33:17

wife.

00:33:18 --> 00:33:19

They will

00:33:19 --> 00:33:21

they will expect it, but not necessarily demand

00:33:21 --> 00:33:23

it. You know, most husbands are good. They

00:33:23 --> 00:33:25

won't demand it, but they will have that

00:33:25 --> 00:33:25

expectation

00:33:25 --> 00:33:26

and they usually

00:33:27 --> 00:33:30

will communicate with their wife before or during,

00:33:30 --> 00:33:32

or, you know, move their body in a

00:33:32 --> 00:33:35

certain way to bring themselves to pleasure and

00:33:35 --> 00:33:36

lead them to *

00:33:37 --> 00:33:38

because they have the belief.

00:33:39 --> 00:33:41

Women, on the other hand, girls on the

00:33:41 --> 00:33:43

other hand, have not been taught that have

00:33:43 --> 00:33:44

not been taught that * was created for

00:33:44 --> 00:33:46

them, that * is meant to be pleasurable

00:33:46 --> 00:33:47

for you,

00:33:47 --> 00:33:49

and that you're meant to *.

00:33:49 --> 00:33:51

But what's important for women is to start

00:33:51 --> 00:33:55

believing that * was created by Allah for

00:33:55 --> 00:33:58

your pleasure. So start programming yourself just like

00:33:58 --> 00:33:59

men were programmed by society.

00:34:00 --> 00:34:02

Society did the opposite to females but we

00:34:02 --> 00:34:02

need to,

00:34:04 --> 00:34:05

we need to debunk that

00:34:05 --> 00:34:07

and go back to the true source and

00:34:07 --> 00:34:08

say, okay, Allah

00:34:09 --> 00:34:10

created * for me. And if you want

00:34:10 --> 00:34:12

the evidence, go and do your research. There

00:34:12 --> 00:34:13

is evidence in the Quran and the sunnah.

00:34:14 --> 00:34:15

The fact that the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi

00:34:15 --> 00:34:18

wasallam enjoyed sexual pleasure with his wives, but

00:34:18 --> 00:34:19

equally

00:34:19 --> 00:34:20

his wives

00:34:20 --> 00:34:21

experienced pleasure

00:34:21 --> 00:34:23

with their husband the prophet Muhammad SAWSAWN.

00:34:24 --> 00:34:26

So you as a woman need to emulate

00:34:26 --> 00:34:28

that. We are, you know, or as

00:34:28 --> 00:34:29

as Muslims, we are all trying to emulate

00:34:29 --> 00:34:31

the prophet. And it's not just the fact

00:34:31 --> 00:34:32

that he was a man and thinking, yes,

00:34:32 --> 00:34:34

he was meant to experience pleasure, but his

00:34:34 --> 00:34:36

wives also experienced pleasure. So we as women

00:34:36 --> 00:34:38

need to be emulating that they are our

00:34:38 --> 00:34:38

role models.

00:34:38 --> 00:34:39

So

00:34:40 --> 00:34:42

start with the belief that Allah created *

00:34:42 --> 00:34:43

for me. If I'm a woman, I need

00:34:43 --> 00:34:46

to believe Allah created * for me. Allah

00:34:46 --> 00:34:48

created * for me to experience pleasure. Allah

00:34:48 --> 00:34:51

created * for me to experience * if

00:34:51 --> 00:34:53

I'm able to. When you start with that,

00:34:53 --> 00:34:56

you then will start thinking, okay, what is

00:34:56 --> 00:34:58

it that I need to know? What does

00:34:58 --> 00:34:59

it need to know about my body or

00:34:59 --> 00:35:02

any kind of bits of education with regards

00:35:02 --> 00:35:03

to *? What is it that will help

00:35:03 --> 00:35:06

me experience that pleasure that Allah created for

00:35:06 --> 00:35:08

me? It is very much possible. You need

00:35:08 --> 00:35:10

to believe that it can be your reality

00:35:10 --> 00:35:12

to experience pleasure. But there may be certain

00:35:12 --> 00:35:13

things that you don't know about your body.

00:35:13 --> 00:35:15

So go on that journey of educating yourself

00:35:15 --> 00:35:19

about your body and being willing to experiment

00:35:19 --> 00:35:21

with your husband with regards to finding what

00:35:21 --> 00:35:24

works for you and your unique self and

00:35:24 --> 00:35:25

unique body.

00:35:25 --> 00:35:27

And in terms of prioritising pleasure, I really

00:35:27 --> 00:35:29

believe that if more women

00:35:29 --> 00:35:32

prioritise pleasure, prioritise their * in the context

00:35:32 --> 00:35:33

of * with their husband,

00:35:34 --> 00:35:35

they will enjoy * more. They will not

00:35:35 --> 00:35:37

see * as a chore because * is

00:35:37 --> 00:35:40

not meant to be a chore. They will

00:35:40 --> 00:35:42

finally experience amazing, an amazing * life with

00:35:42 --> 00:35:45

their husband and they will naturally start to

00:35:45 --> 00:35:47

desire it more. Just like if you

00:35:48 --> 00:35:49

eat a really delicious cake,

00:35:50 --> 00:35:52

you will desire that cake more. You will

00:35:52 --> 00:35:53

crave that cake more. The same applies to

00:35:53 --> 00:35:55

*. If you experience really pleasurable * with

00:35:55 --> 00:35:58

your spouse, you will naturally want to experience

00:35:58 --> 00:36:01

that more and more. So prioritize your *,

00:36:01 --> 00:36:03

prioritize pleasure. And I really feel like it

00:36:03 --> 00:36:06

will make such a difference to your marriage

00:36:06 --> 00:36:06

because

00:36:06 --> 00:36:07

*

00:36:07 --> 00:36:09

is a big part of marriage. Your sexuality

00:36:10 --> 00:36:11

is a big part of marriage. Obviously, it's

00:36:11 --> 00:36:12

not the only thing, but it is a

00:36:12 --> 00:36:14

big thing. And I find that when there

00:36:14 --> 00:36:17

are issues sexually within the marriage, it can

00:36:17 --> 00:36:17

usually have

00:36:18 --> 00:36:20

negative knock on effects to other areas of

00:36:20 --> 00:36:22

your marriage. And so really

00:36:23 --> 00:36:25

like not kind of I think a lot

00:36:25 --> 00:36:28

of women tend to see * as this

00:36:28 --> 00:36:29

thing that's not very important.

00:36:30 --> 00:36:32

And I will kind of just have *

00:36:32 --> 00:36:33

with my husband whenever he wants it. And

00:36:33 --> 00:36:35

it's not that important. Actually, * is a

00:36:35 --> 00:36:38

big foundation in your marriage. And so start

00:36:38 --> 00:36:39

seeing it as something that I need to

00:36:39 --> 00:36:39

prioritize.

00:36:40 --> 00:36:42

One thing that will help women prioritize it

00:36:42 --> 00:36:43

more is

00:36:44 --> 00:36:46

remembering and reminding yourself that

00:36:46 --> 00:36:49

* in your marriage is an act of

00:36:49 --> 00:36:49

worship.

00:36:49 --> 00:36:51

We are rewarded when we do any act

00:36:51 --> 00:36:54

of worship, praying, reading Quran, fasting, giving charity.

00:36:55 --> 00:36:57

* is equally an act of worship. So

00:36:57 --> 00:36:59

it is very important to

00:36:59 --> 00:37:02

educate yourself about it, prioritise it and know

00:37:02 --> 00:37:03

that you are being rewarded.

00:37:04 --> 00:37:07

And I have found that when I went

00:37:07 --> 00:37:08

from that place and understood that

00:37:09 --> 00:37:11

it really helped my connection with Allah SubhanAllah

00:37:12 --> 00:37:12

because

00:37:13 --> 00:37:15

when I was able to experience more pleasure

00:37:15 --> 00:37:17

and * in my marriage,

00:37:17 --> 00:37:18

I

00:37:19 --> 00:37:22

felt kind of in awe of Allah's generosity.

00:37:23 --> 00:37:23

That

00:37:24 --> 00:37:24

Allah

00:37:25 --> 00:37:27

wants me to feel this good

00:37:27 --> 00:37:28

and he's rewarding me for it in this

00:37:28 --> 00:37:29

life and the next.

00:37:30 --> 00:37:33

That's amazing. Like really when you think yeah,

00:37:33 --> 00:37:34

exactly. So

00:37:34 --> 00:37:36

I think that that's the message I want

00:37:36 --> 00:37:37

women to start,

00:37:38 --> 00:37:40

programming themselves with is * was created for

00:37:40 --> 00:37:41

me as a woman

00:37:41 --> 00:37:42

and

00:37:42 --> 00:37:44

I'm going to do whatever it takes to

00:37:44 --> 00:37:46

find out how to make * pleasurable and

00:37:46 --> 00:37:47

*. And I'm going to communicate with my

00:37:47 --> 00:37:49

husband and we're going to work as a

00:37:49 --> 00:37:49

team.

00:37:50 --> 00:37:50

And

00:37:51 --> 00:37:51

insha'Allah,

00:37:51 --> 00:37:52

just watch

00:37:53 --> 00:37:55

how many positive effects it has in your

00:37:55 --> 00:37:56

marriage.

00:37:57 --> 00:37:59

I absolutely love that. And I think if

00:37:59 --> 00:38:00

I remember correctly,

00:38:00 --> 00:38:04

we talked about, before about 2 different kinds

00:38:04 --> 00:38:05

of, of desire,

00:38:05 --> 00:38:08

spontaneous desire and responsive

00:38:08 --> 00:38:08

desire.

00:38:09 --> 00:38:11

So for example, if a woman knows that

00:38:11 --> 00:38:14

she's more inclined to the responsive desire,

00:38:14 --> 00:38:15

and, for example,

00:38:16 --> 00:38:17

she needs to

00:38:17 --> 00:38:18

smell

00:38:19 --> 00:38:20

nice in order for her to feel in

00:38:20 --> 00:38:23

the mood. Right? Or she needs to be

00:38:23 --> 00:38:23

clean

00:38:24 --> 00:38:26

because you know? Or or she needs the

00:38:26 --> 00:38:28

lights low or she needs certain smells. Yeah.

00:38:29 --> 00:38:30

I remember you saying,

00:38:31 --> 00:38:32

do it then.

00:38:32 --> 00:38:34

Like, make that happen. You know? And and

00:38:34 --> 00:38:35

this and this is what, for me, what

00:38:35 --> 00:38:37

was really empowering about it was,

00:38:38 --> 00:38:40

again, we we have this narrative

00:38:40 --> 00:38:44

that men always want it. Mhmm. And, sorry,

00:38:44 --> 00:38:46

husbands always want it, and wives are always

00:38:46 --> 00:38:48

trying to put it off. Mhmm.

00:38:48 --> 00:38:50

You know, the whole I've got a headache

00:38:50 --> 00:38:52

trope. It's been a long day. You know?

00:38:52 --> 00:38:53

If maybe if you help me with the

00:38:53 --> 00:38:55

kids more, you know, maybe if you did

00:38:55 --> 00:38:56

the dishes more. Basically,

00:38:57 --> 00:39:00

I don't want this with you. Right? And

00:39:00 --> 00:39:02

it's it's it's oh oh oh, the Muslim

00:39:02 --> 00:39:04

version. I'm gonna have to make hustle.

00:39:05 --> 00:39:07

I just got my hair done. You know?

00:39:07 --> 00:39:09

Like, these types of things. Right? So there's

00:39:09 --> 00:39:12

this this narrative that husbands want it and

00:39:12 --> 00:39:14

wives are trying to put it off. And

00:39:15 --> 00:39:18

when I heard you talking about, you know

00:39:18 --> 00:39:18

firstly,

00:39:20 --> 00:39:23

I mean, from where I'm sitting and what

00:39:23 --> 00:39:25

I came to understand was that

00:39:25 --> 00:39:27

we know that, Islamically,

00:39:27 --> 00:39:30

the husband and the wife have the right

00:39:30 --> 00:39:32

to enjoy each other. Mhmm. It's it's one

00:39:32 --> 00:39:34

of the the one of the foundations of

00:39:34 --> 00:39:34

the nikah

00:39:35 --> 00:39:37

become halal for each other. Mhmm. You both

00:39:37 --> 00:39:38

have sexual rights,

00:39:39 --> 00:39:41

which means that you both have sexual responsibilities.

00:39:43 --> 00:39:45

And so, you know, taking it from the

00:39:45 --> 00:39:47

woman's side, from the wife's side, and I

00:39:47 --> 00:39:50

know it's not a very sexy way of

00:39:50 --> 00:39:51

saying it and it's not very fashionable,

00:39:52 --> 00:39:54

But the reality is that you have a

00:39:54 --> 00:39:55

responsibility

00:39:55 --> 00:39:57

because he has a right, therefore you have

00:39:57 --> 00:39:58

a responsibility.

00:39:58 --> 00:39:59

You have a responsibility

00:40:00 --> 00:40:01

as a wife

00:40:01 --> 00:40:03

to take care of him in that way.

00:40:03 --> 00:40:05

Now, of course, people don't wanna hear that

00:40:05 --> 00:40:05

because

00:40:05 --> 00:40:07

we've we've got this idea that * should

00:40:07 --> 00:40:10

be the spontaneous thing and that desire should

00:40:10 --> 00:40:12

be this big passionate wave that kind of

00:40:12 --> 00:40:14

pushes you forward. And if you don't have

00:40:14 --> 00:40:15

that, then you're not in the mood and

00:40:15 --> 00:40:17

you shouldn't have to do anything. Right?

00:40:18 --> 00:40:19

And and kind of what I've

00:40:20 --> 00:40:21

learned along the way is that

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when you

00:40:23 --> 00:40:23

understand

00:40:24 --> 00:40:27

that, okay. I want my husband to to

00:40:27 --> 00:40:28

to to fulfill himself

00:40:28 --> 00:40:31

in a halal way with me. Mhmm. Therefore,

00:40:31 --> 00:40:33

I have a part to play.

00:40:34 --> 00:40:35

What is that part?

00:40:35 --> 00:40:36

Is it

00:40:37 --> 00:40:40

changing my mindset around *? Is it looking

00:40:40 --> 00:40:43

at how my timetable or my list of

00:40:43 --> 00:40:44

activities is impacting

00:40:45 --> 00:40:47

our * life? Is it, as you say,

00:40:47 --> 00:40:50

taking control of the factors I can control

00:40:50 --> 00:40:51

and getting myself

00:40:52 --> 00:40:54

into that mood so that it's a very

00:40:54 --> 00:40:56

small bridge between us. You know what I

00:40:56 --> 00:40:59

mean? Rather than putting all the heavy lifting

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01

on him and say, well, show me something

00:41:01 --> 00:41:04

then. Like, okay. You want it? Alright then.

00:41:05 --> 00:41:06

Make it happen. You know? And then there's

00:41:06 --> 00:41:09

kind of this this combative kind of, like,

00:41:09 --> 00:41:10

well, you know, I don't want to, but,

00:41:10 --> 00:41:12

yeah, okay. Fine if we have to, you

00:41:12 --> 00:41:13

know, type of thing. I mean, what what

00:41:13 --> 00:41:15

do you think about that? I love that

00:41:15 --> 00:41:17

you said that. And I I wanna say

00:41:17 --> 00:41:19

one tip that will inshallah change,

00:41:20 --> 00:41:22

you know, if there's a woman here listening

00:41:22 --> 00:41:24

to this, and she's feeling what everything you

00:41:24 --> 00:41:24

just said,

00:41:25 --> 00:41:26

there's one thing that will really help and

00:41:26 --> 00:41:29

it's gonna sound not very sexy,

00:41:29 --> 00:41:31

but it is gonna inshallah make a difference.

00:41:31 --> 00:41:32

And that is

00:41:33 --> 00:41:35

to schedule *.

00:41:35 --> 00:41:38

Yes. And it sounds like, woah, you're telling

00:41:38 --> 00:41:40

me to schedule *. Isn't * meant to

00:41:40 --> 00:41:43

be spontaneous? No. It's to be. Exactly. It's

00:41:43 --> 00:41:45

this whole thing about the spontaneous design. I

00:41:45 --> 00:41:47

mean, I mean, so who? Says who? Who

00:41:47 --> 00:41:49

says it's meant to be spontaneous? Did Allah

00:41:49 --> 00:41:52

say that? No. Allah never said that you

00:41:52 --> 00:41:54

can't have * if you schedule it. Where's

00:41:54 --> 00:41:55

your delay? Exactly.

00:41:56 --> 00:41:59

Exactly. So I'm saying schedule * because

00:42:00 --> 00:42:02

when we whenever you have something important,

00:42:03 --> 00:42:05

there is there's a time for it. You

00:42:05 --> 00:42:06

know when that appointment is going to be

00:42:06 --> 00:42:08

and you usually will put it in your

00:42:08 --> 00:42:10

calendar or diary if you have one or

00:42:10 --> 00:42:12

you'll just know that, okay, this is the

00:42:12 --> 00:42:14

time that I meant to be doing this

00:42:14 --> 00:42:14

appointment,

00:42:15 --> 00:42:16

this priority.

00:42:17 --> 00:42:19

So do the same with *, schedule it,

00:42:19 --> 00:42:21

whether physically putting it on your calendar or

00:42:21 --> 00:42:23

diary or and you don't have to label

00:42:23 --> 00:42:25

it as *, but it could just be

00:42:25 --> 00:42:26

time with my husband. You could just label

00:42:26 --> 00:42:28

it that. Something, you know, something that you

00:42:28 --> 00:42:29

don't care if someone else were to see

00:42:29 --> 00:42:30

that.

00:42:30 --> 00:42:33

And making it a regular thing that you

00:42:33 --> 00:42:35

do. Obviously, you know, if you can't do

00:42:35 --> 00:42:37

it for whatever reason, you know, you were

00:42:37 --> 00:42:39

ill or you're on your period, whatever is

00:42:39 --> 00:42:41

fine, but you kind of have a general

00:42:41 --> 00:42:43

regular schedule for when you have *. And

00:42:43 --> 00:42:45

why this works for a lot of women

00:42:45 --> 00:42:48

is because, as I mentioned earlier, most women

00:42:48 --> 00:42:51

experience responsive desire. So they need

00:42:52 --> 00:42:54

the right context, need to feel safe, comfortable,

00:42:54 --> 00:42:56

they need to feel ready mentally, physically. They

00:42:56 --> 00:42:57

need to,

00:42:57 --> 00:42:59

be in the right context environmentally,

00:42:59 --> 00:43:01

like the right surroundings, but also feel mentally

00:43:01 --> 00:43:02

and emotionally

00:43:02 --> 00:43:04

in the right context. When you schedule it

00:43:04 --> 00:43:06

and you know that, okay, I'm gonna be

00:43:06 --> 00:43:06

having

00:43:07 --> 00:43:09

* and intimate time with my husband

00:43:10 --> 00:43:13

Saturday at 9 pm on a regular schedule.

00:43:13 --> 00:43:15

And you can start there, start with like

00:43:15 --> 00:43:16

once a week for example, except when you're

00:43:16 --> 00:43:18

on your period. You just don't have to

00:43:18 --> 00:43:18

do it that day.

00:43:19 --> 00:43:22

If you know that, you know that, okay,

00:43:22 --> 00:43:24

I'm gonna be enjoying this, I'm gonna be

00:43:24 --> 00:43:25

having this time with my husband.

00:43:26 --> 00:43:27

I want to make the most of that

00:43:27 --> 00:43:29

time. I want to make sure it's pleasurable

00:43:29 --> 00:43:31

for me. What do I as a woman

00:43:31 --> 00:43:33

need to do in the days leading up

00:43:33 --> 00:43:36

to that, you know, Saturday at 9 p.

00:43:36 --> 00:43:37

M. What do I as a woman need

00:43:37 --> 00:43:38

to prepare? What can I,

00:43:39 --> 00:43:41

communicate with my husband with regards to if,

00:43:41 --> 00:43:42

you know, if I have kids, how can

00:43:42 --> 00:43:44

he perhaps do bedtime that day so I

00:43:44 --> 00:43:45

can go and have a nice bath or

00:43:45 --> 00:43:47

go for a walk or read a book

00:43:47 --> 00:43:49

or just have me time, whatever it is?

00:43:49 --> 00:43:52

So engaging in self care time before *

00:43:52 --> 00:43:54

is really important for a woman having time

00:43:54 --> 00:43:55

to herself

00:43:55 --> 00:43:57

before enjoying time with her husband.

00:43:57 --> 00:43:58

But equally

00:43:59 --> 00:44:02

changing your mindset to see that *,

00:44:02 --> 00:44:04

is not a chore and

00:44:05 --> 00:44:07

* is meant to be for your pleasure

00:44:07 --> 00:44:09

too, and * is also meant to be

00:44:09 --> 00:44:11

your self care time with your husband.

00:44:11 --> 00:44:15

Speak on that, sis. Say that again. Yes.

00:44:16 --> 00:44:17

Yes. If you think about it, whenever we

00:44:17 --> 00:44:19

talk about self care, we talk about things

00:44:19 --> 00:44:21

that are good for us,

00:44:21 --> 00:44:23

things that are healing for us, things that

00:44:23 --> 00:44:25

make us feel good, things that are pleasurable

00:44:25 --> 00:44:27

for us. We tend to hear the things

00:44:27 --> 00:44:28

of like having a facial massage. All of

00:44:28 --> 00:44:30

those things are fine. All of those things

00:44:30 --> 00:44:32

can be incorporated in self care.

00:44:33 --> 00:44:33

But the main

00:44:34 --> 00:44:36

the the essence of self care, something that

00:44:36 --> 00:44:38

is self care is something that's good for

00:44:38 --> 00:44:39

you, something that will help you, something that

00:44:39 --> 00:44:42

is good for you spiritually, emotionally, mentally.

00:44:42 --> 00:44:44

All of those things can occur when you

00:44:44 --> 00:44:46

are engaging in * with your husband. It

00:44:46 --> 00:44:49

can feel good, physically good, mentally good,

00:44:49 --> 00:44:51

spiritually good. It can heal you. There is

00:44:51 --> 00:44:54

a lot of energy exchange when you engage

00:44:54 --> 00:44:57

in *. So * with your husband is

00:44:57 --> 00:44:58

self care. There are so many things that

00:44:58 --> 00:45:00

we can do for self care like

00:45:00 --> 00:45:03

that involve other people such as, you know,

00:45:03 --> 00:45:04

to get a massage and ease another person

00:45:04 --> 00:45:06

to typically massage you unless you're kind of

00:45:06 --> 00:45:08

self massaging or, you know, going out for

00:45:08 --> 00:45:10

a coffee with friends that is, you know,

00:45:10 --> 00:45:12

your self care time. But with other people,

00:45:12 --> 00:45:13

there's self care that you do on your

00:45:13 --> 00:45:15

own and self care that you do with

00:45:15 --> 00:45:15

others.

00:45:16 --> 00:45:18

* is a self care act that you

00:45:18 --> 00:45:20

do with someone else with your spouse. So

00:45:21 --> 00:45:23

not seeing * as this chore, this thing

00:45:23 --> 00:45:24

that I just have to give

00:45:25 --> 00:45:27

It's something that you

00:45:27 --> 00:45:29

are going to enjoy and something that you

00:45:29 --> 00:45:29

can

00:45:30 --> 00:45:33

look forward to. So even though you're scheduling

00:45:33 --> 00:45:35

it, it doesn't mean it's a chore. You're

00:45:35 --> 00:45:38

scheduling it because it's a priority. Exactly.

00:45:38 --> 00:45:40

It's your me time. You're scheduling it because

00:45:40 --> 00:45:42

it's a priority. You're scheduling it because your

00:45:42 --> 00:45:44

marriage is a priority.

00:45:44 --> 00:45:45

You're scheduling it because you

00:45:46 --> 00:45:47

are a priority.

00:45:47 --> 00:45:49

It's, you're scheduling it because it's an act

00:45:49 --> 00:45:50

of worship. Like just like there are certain

00:45:50 --> 00:45:51

times for prayer.

00:45:52 --> 00:45:54

The same applies to *. There might be

00:45:54 --> 00:45:55

a certain time where you naturally feel like,

00:45:55 --> 00:45:57

okay, that is the time when I will

00:45:57 --> 00:45:59

feel most ready to have * is in

00:45:59 --> 00:46:01

the evening once my kids are asleep. But

00:46:02 --> 00:46:02

like really,

00:46:03 --> 00:46:05

looking at the roles within your marriage, like

00:46:05 --> 00:46:06

if you are taking on most of the

00:46:06 --> 00:46:09

roles with regards to chores in the house

00:46:09 --> 00:46:11

or raising up the kids and that is

00:46:11 --> 00:46:13

draining you, you know, physically and mentally and

00:46:13 --> 00:46:15

emotionally is, is, is realizing that it doesn't

00:46:15 --> 00:46:17

have to be all on you as the

00:46:17 --> 00:46:19

woman to do all those things. It's

00:46:19 --> 00:46:21

communicating with your husband saying, I would like

00:46:21 --> 00:46:23

you to do these things, you know, at

00:46:23 --> 00:46:25

certain times and being a team and, you

00:46:25 --> 00:46:28

know, having that conversation where he takes on

00:46:28 --> 00:46:30

some of that load to some of that

00:46:30 --> 00:46:31

burden that you may feel,

00:46:32 --> 00:46:33

because it's gonna work in your favor, but

00:46:33 --> 00:46:35

equally it's gonna work in his. If he's

00:46:35 --> 00:46:36

doing those things

00:46:36 --> 00:46:38

and you're having * more frequently,

00:46:38 --> 00:46:40

let's say it is once a week because

00:46:40 --> 00:46:41

you're scheduling it once a week. I'm sure

00:46:41 --> 00:46:43

that once a week is a lot more

00:46:43 --> 00:46:44

frequent

00:46:44 --> 00:46:47

than you're currently having it. Like right now,

00:46:47 --> 00:46:49

you might just be like doing it once

00:46:49 --> 00:46:50

a month or once every 2 months because

00:46:50 --> 00:46:52

that's what I'm hearing from my clients is

00:46:52 --> 00:46:54

putting it off as much as possible and

00:46:54 --> 00:46:56

then doing it once a month because they're

00:46:56 --> 00:46:58

like, oh, it's been quite a while, But

00:46:58 --> 00:47:00

once a week or 3 times a month

00:47:00 --> 00:47:01

because on, you know, one of the weeks

00:47:01 --> 00:47:03

you might be on your period.

00:47:03 --> 00:47:05

3 times a month is

00:47:05 --> 00:47:07

for a lot of people listening to this,

00:47:07 --> 00:47:09

that is already more frequent

00:47:10 --> 00:47:11

than you're currently doing it. And if it

00:47:11 --> 00:47:13

isn't, like let's say 3 weeks a week,

00:47:13 --> 00:47:14

3,

00:47:14 --> 00:47:17

3, 3 times a month isn't regular enough

00:47:17 --> 00:47:18

for your spouse

00:47:19 --> 00:47:20

and you schedule it to be twice a

00:47:20 --> 00:47:21

week instead,

00:47:22 --> 00:47:24

then really putting it in your calendar. And

00:47:24 --> 00:47:26

again, the same thing applies is how can

00:47:26 --> 00:47:28

I get myself ready for that moment?

00:47:28 --> 00:47:30

What conversations do I need to be having

00:47:30 --> 00:47:32

with my spouse so that I feel really

00:47:32 --> 00:47:34

ready, really looking forward to it? And what

00:47:34 --> 00:47:36

conversations, I think, you know, just to jumping

00:47:36 --> 00:47:38

off what you're saying, what conversations should I

00:47:38 --> 00:47:40

be having with myself? Mhmm.

00:47:41 --> 00:47:43

What's going on in here? Yeah. In order

00:47:43 --> 00:47:44

for me to see that as self care.

00:47:44 --> 00:47:46

And I really I love that. We're gonna

00:47:46 --> 00:47:48

definitely, guys, you need to just do something

00:47:48 --> 00:47:50

with that. I mean, a meme, a tweet,

00:47:50 --> 00:47:53

a post on Instagram, something. Because,

00:47:53 --> 00:47:55

you know, intimate time with hubby

00:47:56 --> 00:47:58

ticks all the boxes of self care, just

00:47:58 --> 00:48:01

as you mentioned. And it's so crazy

00:48:02 --> 00:48:05

that it's like * outside of marriage is

00:48:05 --> 00:48:06

this wild,

00:48:07 --> 00:48:08

exciting ride. Right?

00:48:09 --> 00:48:11

It's everywhere you you look.

00:48:11 --> 00:48:14

Right? It's in every film. It's in every

00:48:14 --> 00:48:16

TV series. It's in every song. It's in

00:48:16 --> 00:48:19

every billboard. It's literally with our society is

00:48:20 --> 00:48:22

saturated with *. Right? Yeah.

00:48:22 --> 00:48:25

Most of it, outside marriage. Let's be frank.

00:48:25 --> 00:48:27

Okay? Most of it is haram that's out

00:48:27 --> 00:48:30

there. Yeah. When it comes to marriage, it's

00:48:30 --> 00:48:31

like a * desert.

00:48:31 --> 00:48:34

It's like married people do not do that.

00:48:34 --> 00:48:36

It that's the kind of the message that

00:48:36 --> 00:48:38

we get from society because * is so

00:48:38 --> 00:48:39

very rarely

00:48:40 --> 00:48:42

spoken about in the context of a marriage.

00:48:42 --> 00:48:44

And when we're talking about marriages, we're very

00:48:44 --> 00:48:48

rarely talking about *, you know? So for

00:48:48 --> 00:48:49

us to

00:48:49 --> 00:48:52

embrace the idea, as Muslims and as people

00:48:52 --> 00:48:53

who, you know, who are married, let's let's,

00:48:53 --> 00:48:55

you know, let's just call it what it

00:48:55 --> 00:48:55

is,

00:48:56 --> 00:48:57

that this is the playground.

00:48:58 --> 00:49:01

This is the space. This is the space.

00:49:01 --> 00:49:03

This is this is the place to explore.

00:49:03 --> 00:49:05

This is the place to, you know, to

00:49:05 --> 00:49:07

to be playful, to be experimental, to to

00:49:07 --> 00:49:09

connect, to be intimate. You know, this should

00:49:09 --> 00:49:12

be where the focus is, not all that

00:49:12 --> 00:49:13

stuff out there.

00:49:14 --> 00:49:17

And and really, as you say, in that

00:49:17 --> 00:49:17

investment

00:49:18 --> 00:49:18

in yourself,

00:49:19 --> 00:49:22

all the physical, the emotional, the the health

00:49:22 --> 00:49:25

benefits, all of that. And then the investment

00:49:25 --> 00:49:27

in the relationship between you and your husband.

00:49:28 --> 00:49:29

Because, you know, I know we're we're not

00:49:29 --> 00:49:32

really, you know, talking about this today, but

00:49:32 --> 00:49:34

this this whole thing of, sort of, the

00:49:34 --> 00:49:37

dead bedroom or sexless marriages, or like you

00:49:37 --> 00:49:38

say, you know, people who,

00:49:38 --> 00:49:41

you know, would be grateful for once a

00:49:41 --> 00:49:43

month, you know, or twice a month, and,

00:49:43 --> 00:49:45

you know, and and they can't see themselves

00:49:45 --> 00:49:46

getting more than that.

00:49:47 --> 00:49:49

I I often think about,

00:49:50 --> 00:49:51

say, whichever side it is, whether it's the

00:49:51 --> 00:49:53

husband or the wife,

00:49:53 --> 00:49:54

that wants more

00:49:54 --> 00:49:56

and is being pushed away,

00:49:56 --> 00:49:58

continually pushed away.

00:49:59 --> 00:50:01

I've always thought about this scenario

00:50:02 --> 00:50:05

and I've tried to reverse the roles. So

00:50:05 --> 00:50:06

say, you know,

00:50:07 --> 00:50:09

you are my spouse or you ask your

00:50:09 --> 00:50:10

spouse

00:50:10 --> 00:50:11

for a piece of cake.

00:50:12 --> 00:50:14

They have the cake in their hand, and

00:50:14 --> 00:50:15

you're hungry, and you ask them for the

00:50:15 --> 00:50:18

piece of cake, and they say no. Mhmm.

00:50:19 --> 00:50:21

And the next time you see them, you

00:50:21 --> 00:50:22

say, you're hungry. They have the cake in

00:50:22 --> 00:50:25

their hand, and they say no. And just

00:50:25 --> 00:50:26

the

00:50:27 --> 00:50:28

the sense of, you know, what we talked

00:50:28 --> 00:50:30

about earlier, the the rejection.

00:50:31 --> 00:50:33

And I think I've listened to quite a

00:50:33 --> 00:50:36

few talks about this. The sense of loneliness

00:50:37 --> 00:50:38

and isolation

00:50:38 --> 00:50:39

that you feel

00:50:40 --> 00:50:40

in a marriage,

00:50:41 --> 00:50:43

especially, you know, as a Muslim, where this

00:50:43 --> 00:50:45

is where it's all supposed to go down,

00:50:45 --> 00:50:47

right? This is where it's supposed to happen.

00:50:48 --> 00:50:50

All the things you said, it's halal, it's

00:50:50 --> 00:50:52

the ibadah, it's all of these things, and

00:50:52 --> 00:50:54

your spouse doesn't want you like that. And

00:50:54 --> 00:50:56

your spouse can't bring themselves

00:50:57 --> 00:51:00

to desire you in that way. Yeah.

00:51:00 --> 00:51:02

For those of us who are on the

00:51:02 --> 00:51:03

side of pushing away,

00:51:04 --> 00:51:06

I'm saying this for you, really, because I

00:51:06 --> 00:51:08

I would love for you to examine

00:51:08 --> 00:51:11

what's really going on. You know? And and

00:51:11 --> 00:51:12

have you thought

00:51:12 --> 00:51:13

of

00:51:13 --> 00:51:15

what it would feel like if the shoe

00:51:15 --> 00:51:17

was on the other foot? So true. And

00:51:17 --> 00:51:18

and and can you, you know, can you

00:51:18 --> 00:51:21

get yourself to a place where that's not

00:51:21 --> 00:51:23

the dynamic in your relationship? Because I just

00:51:23 --> 00:51:25

I feel it's so sad. It's such a

00:51:25 --> 00:51:28

sad place to be, you know, where you're

00:51:28 --> 00:51:29

with someone. You may love them and everything,

00:51:30 --> 00:51:32

but they don't want you. Yeah.

00:51:33 --> 00:51:34

Yeah. What I wanna say to that is

00:51:34 --> 00:51:36

I I really think it's important

00:51:36 --> 00:51:38

to help with what you've just said. I

00:51:38 --> 00:51:39

think it's important,

00:51:40 --> 00:51:41

because what you've said is usually

00:51:42 --> 00:51:45

the woman experiencing that where like her husband

00:51:45 --> 00:51:47

wants * a lot and she perhaps doesn't

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49

and she keeps on kind of turning down

00:51:49 --> 00:51:50

her husband and then the husband feeling,

00:51:51 --> 00:51:52

kind of disconnected. Having

00:51:53 --> 00:51:54

It can always the other way. So regardless

00:51:54 --> 00:51:55

of who it applies to, I think it's

00:51:55 --> 00:51:55

important to

00:52:01 --> 00:52:05

expand your definition of * and sexual activity.

00:52:05 --> 00:52:07

I found with the women that I work

00:52:07 --> 00:52:10

with that they feel very limited to this

00:52:10 --> 00:52:12

idea that * is meant to be a

00:52:12 --> 00:52:13

certain way and there's only kind of one

00:52:13 --> 00:52:15

type of *, I.

00:52:15 --> 00:52:16

E. *

00:52:17 --> 00:52:20

is sexual * or * is is penetration.

00:52:21 --> 00:52:23

And they feel like it's very limiting because

00:52:23 --> 00:52:24

sometimes they're just not in the mood for

00:52:24 --> 00:52:25

penetration,

00:52:25 --> 00:52:27

but they would be happy for other forms

00:52:27 --> 00:52:29

of *. They would be happy to

00:52:30 --> 00:52:32

they would be happy for example, if they're

00:52:32 --> 00:52:33

not in the mood and they're not fussed

00:52:33 --> 00:52:35

about their own pleasure at that moment in

00:52:35 --> 00:52:37

time, they don't really care to experience *

00:52:37 --> 00:52:38

right there.

00:52:38 --> 00:52:40

But their husband really does or the spouse

00:52:40 --> 00:52:42

really does whichever way it is.

00:52:43 --> 00:52:45

They might still feel willing

00:52:46 --> 00:52:46

to

00:52:47 --> 00:52:48

provide that to their spouse

00:52:49 --> 00:52:50

and and and, you know, give pleasure to

00:52:50 --> 00:52:52

their spouse without receiving anything. And that's a

00:52:52 --> 00:52:54

great thing if they are happy to do

00:52:54 --> 00:52:57

that perfect. But they feel like limited by

00:52:57 --> 00:53:00

that one type of * because they just

00:53:00 --> 00:53:00

feel like

00:53:01 --> 00:53:04

perhaps penetrative * is a bit uncomfortable or

00:53:04 --> 00:53:06

they're approaching their time of the month and

00:53:06 --> 00:53:08

they're feeling a bit of pain and discomfort

00:53:08 --> 00:53:10

down there. And they're just like, I'm really

00:53:10 --> 00:53:11

not in the mood for that. Or they've

00:53:11 --> 00:53:13

had a busy day with the kids or

00:53:13 --> 00:53:14

work or whatever.

00:53:14 --> 00:53:16

And they're like, they feel like that that

00:53:16 --> 00:53:18

they feel like the reason they have to

00:53:18 --> 00:53:19

say no to their spouse

00:53:20 --> 00:53:20

is

00:53:21 --> 00:53:22

because of that one type of * that

00:53:22 --> 00:53:24

they feel like is the only that or

00:53:24 --> 00:53:26

nothing else. If that's the offer, then it's

00:53:26 --> 00:53:27

no from me. Exactly.

00:53:28 --> 00:53:31

And sometimes penetrative * just feels too much.

00:53:31 --> 00:53:33

Like it requires quite a lot of energy.

00:53:33 --> 00:53:35

And for women, especially in order to have

00:53:35 --> 00:53:37

penetrative *, it's not just this physical act

00:53:37 --> 00:53:39

of the man's penis going in the *.

00:53:39 --> 00:53:41

So many things need to happen

00:53:41 --> 00:53:44

before that. You know, a lot of foreplay

00:53:44 --> 00:53:46

needs to happen for it to feel pleasant

00:53:46 --> 00:53:48

and comfortable and enjoyable for her. And so

00:53:48 --> 00:53:49

if a woman in this context,

00:53:50 --> 00:53:53

is limited to that one definition of *,

00:53:53 --> 00:53:55

naturally, she's probably going to want to turn

00:53:55 --> 00:53:57

down her husband because she's just thinking it's

00:53:57 --> 00:53:59

too much hassle, it's too much pain and

00:53:59 --> 00:53:59

discomfort.

00:54:00 --> 00:54:02

If you expand your definition of * and

00:54:02 --> 00:54:05

sexual activity, and this I think is important

00:54:05 --> 00:54:06

for men because

00:54:06 --> 00:54:09

a lot of men also limit themselves and

00:54:09 --> 00:54:11

kind of think I'm now married

00:54:11 --> 00:54:13

and whenever I want *, it's meant to

00:54:13 --> 00:54:14

be a certain way. It's meant to be

00:54:14 --> 00:54:16

that my penis has to go in my

00:54:16 --> 00:54:17

wife's *.

00:54:18 --> 00:54:19

And of course that is Getting demonetized

00:54:20 --> 00:54:21

guys. Yeah. At one time.

00:54:22 --> 00:54:24

Yeah. And of course it is pleasurable for

00:54:24 --> 00:54:25

for men to,

00:54:26 --> 00:54:27

you know, for for a man's penis to

00:54:27 --> 00:54:28

go in the *.

00:54:29 --> 00:54:31

But that is not the only way that

00:54:31 --> 00:54:34

a man *. It's not just from penetrate

00:54:34 --> 00:54:36

penetrates *. As we know. There are so

00:54:36 --> 00:54:39

many different positions and types of *

00:54:39 --> 00:54:41

that are allowed istamically,

00:54:41 --> 00:54:44

manual stimulation with your hands. You can even

00:54:44 --> 00:54:45

use your mouth. A lot of scholars say

00:54:45 --> 00:54:47

that oral * is permissible. Essentially when it

00:54:47 --> 00:54:49

comes to *, Islamically,

00:54:49 --> 00:54:51

the only thing that is not allowed, that

00:54:51 --> 00:54:52

is not permitted

00:54:52 --> 00:54:53

is * *

00:54:54 --> 00:54:56

and penetrative * when a woman's on her

00:54:56 --> 00:54:59

period. Right. So when you kind of,

00:54:59 --> 00:55:00

you know, when you kind of think, okay,

00:55:00 --> 00:55:02

those are the only things that are not

00:55:02 --> 00:55:02

allowed.

00:55:03 --> 00:55:04

There's so much else,

00:55:04 --> 00:55:06

so many other things on the menu that

00:55:06 --> 00:55:08

you can choose from. And so There's a

00:55:08 --> 00:55:10

buffet out here. Exactly. And if if if

00:55:10 --> 00:55:12

penetrative * is like number 1 on the

00:55:12 --> 00:55:12

menu,

00:55:13 --> 00:55:13

you know,

00:55:14 --> 00:55:16

but you can't have that for whatever reason.

00:55:17 --> 00:55:18

What's next? What are the other things that

00:55:18 --> 00:55:20

you both enjoy that the woman or the

00:55:20 --> 00:55:22

not the woman, that one spouse is happy

00:55:22 --> 00:55:24

to do and the other has to ask

00:55:24 --> 00:55:25

is happy to receive that kind of thing.

00:55:25 --> 00:55:28

And then that should hopefully bring you to

00:55:28 --> 00:55:30

a place where you're able to both have

00:55:31 --> 00:55:31

frequent

00:55:32 --> 00:55:33

*. * doesn't always have to be about

00:55:33 --> 00:55:36

giving and receiving pleasure. It can sometimes be

00:55:36 --> 00:55:37

just about the giving,

00:55:37 --> 00:55:39

whether that's the man focusing just on the

00:55:39 --> 00:55:42

woman's pleasure or the woman focusing just on

00:55:42 --> 00:55:44

the man's pleasure, as long as they're happy

00:55:44 --> 00:55:45

to do that. But it shouldn't become this

00:55:45 --> 00:55:47

thing where it's always one-sided,

00:55:47 --> 00:55:49

but sometimes it absolutely can

00:55:50 --> 00:55:52

be. So that's relevant to what you said,

00:55:52 --> 00:55:54

where you were talking about rights and also

00:55:54 --> 00:55:55

responsibilities,

00:55:55 --> 00:55:56

where

00:55:56 --> 00:55:59

if one spouse keeps feeling like they're saying

00:55:59 --> 00:56:00

no to their spouse,

00:56:01 --> 00:56:03

but they're also understanding, oh, okay, this is

00:56:03 --> 00:56:06

my responsibility and Allah, I'm I'm accountable for

00:56:06 --> 00:56:06

my actions

00:56:07 --> 00:56:09

and that I don't want my spouse to

00:56:09 --> 00:56:10

be feeling lonely and disconnected.

00:56:11 --> 00:56:13

And my spouse is, you know, craving *

00:56:13 --> 00:56:15

and wanting * and wanting that connection with

00:56:15 --> 00:56:17

me. How can I still provide that to

00:56:17 --> 00:56:17

my spouse?

00:56:18 --> 00:56:20

But in a way where I'm not fully

00:56:20 --> 00:56:22

sacrificing myself all the time? Yeah.

00:56:22 --> 00:56:24

I love that. I I love that. And

00:56:24 --> 00:56:25

another thing that kind of occurred to me

00:56:25 --> 00:56:27

in this space as well,

00:56:30 --> 00:56:32

that occurred to me in this space as

00:56:32 --> 00:56:33

well is,

00:56:34 --> 00:56:36

again, a mindset thing,

00:56:36 --> 00:56:37

about desire.

00:56:39 --> 00:56:41

And I wonder whether we, as women as

00:56:41 --> 00:56:43

wives, let's make it specific,

00:56:43 --> 00:56:44

whether we as wives

00:56:45 --> 00:56:47

almost take for granted the fact that our

00:56:47 --> 00:56:49

husband will desire us,

00:56:49 --> 00:56:50

so much so that it's

00:56:52 --> 00:56:54

like, he's always you know, he's just

00:56:55 --> 00:56:57

Yeah. A kind of dismissive attitude or even

00:56:57 --> 00:56:59

just like you feel put upon.

00:57:00 --> 00:57:01

And I get it. You know? Again, going

00:57:01 --> 00:57:03

back to what we were saying before, the

00:57:03 --> 00:57:05

chores or this or that. Everything life in

00:57:05 --> 00:57:08

general, just, you know, pushing that way off

00:57:08 --> 00:57:09

the list of priorities.

00:57:10 --> 00:57:12

But I I I found it useful

00:57:13 --> 00:57:14

to reframe

00:57:16 --> 00:57:17

husband's desire,

00:57:17 --> 00:57:19

my husband's desire for me.

00:57:20 --> 00:57:22

It's a privilege, really, for me. Yes. It

00:57:22 --> 00:57:25

is. It's it's an honor. Yeah.

00:57:25 --> 00:57:27

Because it doesn't have to be that way.

00:57:27 --> 00:57:30

He doesn't have to desire me. Yeah. He

00:57:30 --> 00:57:33

could desire anyone. He could desire anyone. There

00:57:33 --> 00:57:35

are men who desire many other women, and,

00:57:35 --> 00:57:37

you know, there are men out there who

00:57:37 --> 00:57:39

fulfill their desires with other women. Right?

00:57:40 --> 00:57:41

So if my husband

00:57:42 --> 00:57:43

desires me

00:57:44 --> 00:57:46

in the state that I'm in, whatever that

00:57:46 --> 00:57:49

state is, Because, of course, you know, we

00:57:49 --> 00:57:51

also have issues about our bodies, and if

00:57:51 --> 00:57:52

we've put on weight, and if we've had

00:57:52 --> 00:57:53

the baby, and all of these things, and

00:57:53 --> 00:57:56

we're measuring ourselves up to whatever we've seen

00:57:56 --> 00:57:57

on social media or whatever we've seen on

00:57:57 --> 00:58:00

TV. Right? And we don't feel attractive. And

00:58:00 --> 00:58:02

yet your husband still desires you though, sis.

00:58:03 --> 00:58:05

So maybe you need to stop taking your

00:58:05 --> 00:58:07

cues from Instagram

00:58:07 --> 00:58:10

and respond to him because this is the

00:58:10 --> 00:58:11

man that Allah

00:58:11 --> 00:58:12

has put in your

00:58:13 --> 00:58:16

life as your source of intimate pleasure. And

00:58:16 --> 00:58:18

the fact that he wants you is not

00:58:18 --> 00:58:20

a burden sis, it's not a burden. The

00:58:20 --> 00:58:22

fact that he wants you is fantastic

00:58:23 --> 00:58:24

because it you know,

00:58:24 --> 00:58:26

he doesn't have to. You know, there are

00:58:26 --> 00:58:28

there are couples where the husband doesn't want

00:58:28 --> 00:58:30

his wife. He's not attracted to her. He's

00:58:30 --> 00:58:32

not turned on by her. He does not

00:58:32 --> 00:58:35

want to have relations with her.

00:58:35 --> 00:58:38

I would prefer to take a man who

00:58:38 --> 00:58:42

desires me over someone who couldn't care less.

00:58:42 --> 00:58:43

But, again, it's a it's a mindset shift,

00:58:43 --> 00:58:45

isn't it? I love that you said that

00:58:45 --> 00:58:48

because, actually, I think the majority of women

00:58:48 --> 00:58:51

actually want to be desired. Of course we

00:58:51 --> 00:58:53

do. Majority of women want to feel attractive,

00:58:53 --> 00:58:55

want to feel beautiful, want to feel sexy.

00:58:55 --> 00:58:57

And so here you are in this marriage

00:58:57 --> 00:58:59

where all of those are happening for you.

00:58:59 --> 00:58:59

Your husband

00:59:00 --> 00:59:03

finds you attractive and desires you sexually and

00:59:03 --> 00:59:04

wants to connect with you intimately.

00:59:05 --> 00:59:07

But you are, like you said, kind of

00:59:07 --> 00:59:09

taking it for granted or dismissing it or

00:59:09 --> 00:59:10

not seeing it as a big deal. But

00:59:10 --> 00:59:11

it is a big deal. It is a

00:59:11 --> 00:59:13

big deal that he desires you and wants

00:59:13 --> 00:59:14

to be with you.

00:59:14 --> 00:59:15

What's important

00:59:15 --> 00:59:18

is that women start desiring themselves

00:59:18 --> 00:59:19

because I feel

00:59:21 --> 00:59:24

Mhmm. Now she's going deep. Okay, girl, I'll

00:59:24 --> 00:59:25

give it to us. Yes.

00:59:25 --> 00:59:27

I feel that, like you said, women are

00:59:27 --> 00:59:28

on Instagram

00:59:28 --> 00:59:31

comparing themselves to other women and what other

00:59:31 --> 00:59:32

women look like. I'm thinking that

00:59:33 --> 00:59:35

I don't understand why does my husband design

00:59:35 --> 00:59:37

me when, you know, I have a flabby

00:59:37 --> 00:59:39

belly and stretch marks and big thighs or

00:59:39 --> 00:59:40

whatever,

00:59:40 --> 00:59:43

saggy *. And, you know, he could he

00:59:43 --> 00:59:45

could go and desire that other woman on

00:59:45 --> 00:59:47

Instagram. And like you said, there are men

00:59:47 --> 00:59:50

who do desire other women outside the marriage.

00:59:50 --> 00:59:51

But here you are blessed

00:59:52 --> 00:59:53

to be in this marriage where your husband

00:59:53 --> 00:59:55

only has eyes for you and truly desires

00:59:55 --> 00:59:57

you regardless of what you look like externally.

00:59:58 --> 00:59:59

Because at the end of the day,

01:00:01 --> 01:00:03

your level of sexual pleasure in your marriage

01:00:03 --> 01:00:05

doesn't depend on what your body looks like

01:00:05 --> 01:00:07

or what your spouse's body looks like.

01:00:08 --> 01:00:10

* is not just this physical act of

01:00:10 --> 01:00:11

2 bodies coming together.

01:00:11 --> 01:00:13

* is really about 2

01:00:13 --> 01:00:16

spirits and souls coming together and that mental

01:00:16 --> 01:00:17

emotional connection

01:00:17 --> 01:00:19

with your spouse. So that's where I think

01:00:19 --> 01:00:21

it needs to start is women start desiring

01:00:21 --> 01:00:22

yourself

01:00:23 --> 01:00:25

not based on your external appearance, which you

01:00:25 --> 01:00:26

can do, you know, you can make yourself

01:00:26 --> 01:00:28

look good and desire yourself that way, but

01:00:28 --> 01:00:30

really desiring yourself internally first.

01:00:31 --> 01:00:32

The next thing I want to say with

01:00:32 --> 01:00:33

regards to that is

01:00:34 --> 01:00:36

when you when your husband approaches you and

01:00:36 --> 01:00:38

says you look beautiful or I'd love to

01:00:38 --> 01:00:40

have * with you tonight or whatever,

01:00:40 --> 01:00:42

instead of dismissing it and taking it for

01:00:42 --> 01:00:45

granted is again, it's mindset like you said,

01:00:45 --> 01:00:47

is thinking, okay,

01:00:47 --> 01:00:48

this is

01:00:49 --> 01:00:52

one of the avenues that Allah is showing

01:00:52 --> 01:00:54

me that he loves me, that Allah loves

01:00:54 --> 01:00:57

me, that Allah Allah gives us love in

01:00:57 --> 01:00:58

so many different ways. So when your child

01:00:58 --> 01:01:00

just randomly comes and hugs you,

01:01:00 --> 01:01:03

yes, the child loves you, but really who's

01:01:03 --> 01:01:04

the source of love is Allah.

01:01:05 --> 01:01:05

So

01:01:06 --> 01:01:08

the love is coming from Allah through your

01:01:08 --> 01:01:11

child who's then hugging you. The same applies

01:01:11 --> 01:01:13

to your husband now who where Allah is

01:01:13 --> 01:01:14

the source of love

01:01:15 --> 01:01:17

and that love is coming through your husband

01:01:17 --> 01:01:19

to you. Are you gonna put a wall

01:01:19 --> 01:01:21

there and say, no, I don't want your

01:01:21 --> 01:01:22

love. I don't need your love.

01:01:22 --> 01:01:23

So it's really

01:01:24 --> 01:01:25

reframing it that way is Allah is trying

01:01:25 --> 01:01:26

to show me love

01:01:27 --> 01:01:28

and seeing

01:01:28 --> 01:01:29

that desire

01:01:29 --> 01:01:30

from your spouse

01:01:31 --> 01:01:33

as provision from Allah.

01:01:34 --> 01:01:36

That Allah, Allah, I don't want to say

01:01:36 --> 01:01:37

Allah desires you,

01:01:38 --> 01:01:41

but Allah is noticing you and Allah wants

01:01:41 --> 01:01:44

you to be connected with your spouse. And

01:01:44 --> 01:01:47

so don't shut that off. It's open yourself

01:01:47 --> 01:01:48

up. It's it really is about

01:01:49 --> 01:01:51

being in receptive mode and being in the

01:01:51 --> 01:01:54

receptive mode mode is a very feminine mode

01:01:54 --> 01:01:55

to be in. This is not having to

01:01:55 --> 01:01:58

do do do. It's just being and be

01:01:58 --> 01:01:59

willing to receive that.

01:02:00 --> 01:02:02

Yeah. And I think that just as you

01:02:02 --> 01:02:03

said, it is receiving

01:02:03 --> 01:02:06

the risk. It's receiving this opportunity because that's,

01:02:06 --> 01:02:07

I think, what Allah

01:02:08 --> 01:02:09

is doing is opening a door for you

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or there's there's a doorway that has been

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presented.

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And on the other side of that doorway

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is all the good stuff. Right? It's the

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barakah. It's, you know, it's it's the reward.

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It's, you know, the connection. It's the increased

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love and all the other good stuff that

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we talked about. And it's just a matter

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of, you know, are you going to take

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this opportunity? Are you going to, you know,

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push the door open and go in?

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And like you said,

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the whole

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being willing to receive,

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even the compliments.

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Yeah. You know? Even the compliments, even the

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hints, even the the flirts,

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you know, those acts of love, those acts

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of service,

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being willing to receive, you know, and allow

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yourself to be filled up with that. I

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don't know. I'm just as we're talking, I'm

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just imagining, like, a whole army of Muslim

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wives who are just

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connected to their femininity and connected to their

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sexual nature.

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Mhmm. I don't know, man. I think they'll

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be pretty happy, and I think that their

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husbands will be pretty happy too. And I

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think that that would be a very good

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thing. Yes. Absolutely.

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That's that's what we want. That like, we

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want that and I really feel like it

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will,

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inshallah

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change the like. I think that unfortunately

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there is a lot of divorce happening within

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the Muslim community. Not that it's necessarily a

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bad thing. Divorce can be a good thing,

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but sometimes,

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you know, the reasons for those divorce perhaps

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could have been prevented or could have been,

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you know,

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perhaps the couple just needed some

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therapy or some to work with a professional

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to heal some of the issues that they

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didn't realize could be healed. And so they

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kind of just thought, this is too much.

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We just have to divorce where really perhaps

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those

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that man and woman in that couple

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were perfect for each other and meant to

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be for each other, but they didn't see

01:03:52 --> 01:03:53

it. And so,

01:03:53 --> 01:03:55

you know, like I said, * is not

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the only thing in marriage, but it's a

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big part of marriage. And * unfortunately is

01:03:58 --> 01:04:00

quite a big cause of divorce

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within the Muslim community and we want to

01:04:02 --> 01:04:04

prevent that. You know, if we're able

01:04:05 --> 01:04:07

to save a marriage for good reasons, like

01:04:07 --> 01:04:08

if you know the man is a good

01:04:08 --> 01:04:09

man and the woman is a good man

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and they are good for each other and

01:04:11 --> 01:04:13

it is just about they didn't have education

01:04:13 --> 01:04:15

about * or they didn't know how to

01:04:15 --> 01:04:18

overcome this sexual issue and we can help

01:04:18 --> 01:04:20

them with that. That is amazing. And they

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will, you know, enjoy each other and and

01:04:23 --> 01:04:25

have a better, a better, more strengthened marriage,

01:04:25 --> 01:04:26

inshallah.

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Insha'Allah, you Rabb. May Allah bless all of

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us in our homes and our relationships with

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our spouses and our * lives. Yes. I

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said it. So how can people get in

01:04:36 --> 01:04:37

touch with you?

01:04:37 --> 01:04:39

The best way is to email me. It's

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support at amirazaki.com.

01:04:41 --> 01:04:42

My name has a h at the end

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as well.

01:04:44 --> 01:04:45

But, you know, I am on Instagram, but

01:04:45 --> 01:04:47

I don't accept messages at the moment. But

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on my Instagram is an email button. So

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that will take you to the email. I

01:04:51 --> 01:04:52

said, really, the best way is email.

01:04:53 --> 01:04:55

And yeah, we can take it from there.

01:04:55 --> 01:04:57

I specifically work with women

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who experience painful * or vaginismus.

01:05:00 --> 01:05:02

That is my main focus. But I equally

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do work with women

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who are struggling with their * lives, you

01:05:06 --> 01:05:07

know, perhaps

01:05:07 --> 01:05:10

are not enjoying it or have certain sexual

01:05:10 --> 01:05:10

issues.

01:05:10 --> 01:05:12

So, you know, if those apply to you

01:05:12 --> 01:05:14

and you would like help, feel free to

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email me inshallah.

01:05:16 --> 01:05:16

Excellent.

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Those links will be in the description, guys.

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We'll put everything down there for you.

01:05:21 --> 01:05:23

I hope that you guys enjoyed this conversation

01:05:23 --> 01:05:25

as much as I did. If you did,

01:05:25 --> 01:05:27

please give the video a like, make sure

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you leave a comment, and of course subscribe

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to the channel. And do follow Sister Amira

01:05:32 --> 01:05:33

on all her platforms. And if you do

01:05:33 --> 01:05:35

need her help, then definitely get in touch.

01:05:36 --> 01:05:39

This is something, alhamdulillah, that is halal, that

01:05:39 --> 01:05:41

Allah has made halal for us, has put

01:05:41 --> 01:05:43

barakah in it for us. So why are

01:05:43 --> 01:05:46

we leaving halal, good stuff, on the table?

01:05:46 --> 01:05:49

No reason. Right, Amira? Not at all. Not

01:05:49 --> 01:05:50

at all. Waka'alaikha and sis. It's been really,

01:05:50 --> 01:05:53

really special. Definitely, we will see you again

01:05:53 --> 01:05:54

on the channel, inshallah.

01:05:54 --> 01:05:56

Waiyaki, sister. Thank you so much for having

01:05:56 --> 01:05:56

me.

01:05:57 --> 01:05:58

Assalamu alaikum.

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