Mustafa Umar – How Islam Came to China

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The history of theals and theals is discussed, including the United Nations releasing data on the number of Uighurs who have been detained and died from reeducation camps. The Chinese government is taking international fears of terrorism and ISIS, and the United Nations has released data on the number of Uighurs who have been detained and died. The conflict between the attention of the Chinese government and the opposition of the Chinese government in certain regions, including the conflict of opinion between the Han majority and the non-immigrant Huit groups, and the suppression of news articles and press agencies is discussed.

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			Alright.
		
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			We begin in the name of Allah, God
		
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			Almighty, the Creator, the Sustainer, and we send
		
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			peace and blessings upon the final messenger of
		
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			God, Muhammad
		
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			peace be upon him. How's everyone doing?
		
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			Alright. Alright. We are ready to get started.
		
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			I wanna thank you all for taking time
		
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			out. I know it's a Friday evening. You
		
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			guys have many different options, different venues you
		
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			can be at, but you chose IIOC,
		
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			and I really appreciate that. So thank you
		
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			so much. I see a lot of new
		
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			faces. I see returning faces. So welcome to
		
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			everybody, and we thank you for taking time
		
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			out and joining us here. Behalf of Islamic
		
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			Institute of Orange County, specifically the DAO and
		
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			the outreach department,
		
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			I want to welcome you to Halal Chinese
		
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			night.
		
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			This is part of our educational series. I
		
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			think you guys have noted, What we're trying
		
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			to do is really, educate ourselves as muslims,
		
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			and even our non muslim neighbors, and family
		
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			members, and co works, etcetera,
		
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			about how Islam came to different places. Many
		
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			at times, there are many misconceptions
		
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			about Islam and how it entered different places.
		
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			So what we're trying to do is really
		
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			educate ourselves and the community at large. So
		
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			this is one of our hopes.
		
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			This is, I think, number 4 or 5
		
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			that we're doing in a long series. So
		
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			do support us as you guys are today
		
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			and I really appreciate it.
		
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			Few housekeeping things. Number 1, the kitchen will
		
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			be remained open inshallah, God willing,
		
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			until we have food. If the food runs
		
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			out, I do apologize. So if you haven't
		
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			as of yet gotten your plate, or 2,
		
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			or 3, I would suggest you go out
		
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			and just get your food. You're most welcome
		
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			to eat inside here if you want. No
		
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			worries at all. But the kitchen will be
		
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			open inshallah, god willing, until we have food
		
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			there.
		
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			Number 2, we are gonna be live streaming
		
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			this event. So in the event, if your
		
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			family members or friends or coworkers are late
		
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			because of Friday traffic here in SoCal, you
		
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			can log on right now. We'll be streaming
		
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			live right now. If you go on YouTube,
		
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			just put in our page, IIOC TV. If
		
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			you guys wanna do that, we'll be we're
		
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			streaming right now. So again, you can send
		
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			them that link, link. That'll be great. I
		
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			wanna send a very or give a very
		
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			special thanks to all the volunteers here. You
		
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			know, those that you see with these green
		
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			volunteer badges,
		
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			this is for the most part a volunteer
		
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			led initiative.
		
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			Meaning, many of the volunteers have sacrificed their
		
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			personal time, their family time to be here.
		
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			Number 1, to serve Allah, the creator, but
		
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			then to serve the community. So please, on
		
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			your way out, when you see somebody with
		
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			not me. I just have one of these
		
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			on. I don't know why. But, when you
		
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			see the real volunteers are really working hard,
		
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			make sure just to thank them and just
		
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			appreciate them if you do. Number 2, we're
		
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			very thankful to Mas Islamic Chinese.
		
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			They care this food. Brother Ibrahim, specifically, the
		
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			owner of Mas Islamic, just down the road
		
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			here in Anaheim on Orange Thorpe. They've been
		
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			working with us for a long time, and
		
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			the community, by and large, I think are
		
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			familiar with them. So do make sure you
		
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			support them. Pray for them. Pray for, you
		
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			know, Allah blesses their business and their health
		
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			and their wealth. They're doing an amazing job
		
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			specifically with the masjid here at hand.
		
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			Alright. It's a lot. Is it now, Shaykh?
		
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			Alright. Alright. I just wanna make sure I
		
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			get everything, through.
		
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			Finally, do we have any non Muslim guests
		
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			by attendance? I know I've met a number
		
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			of non Muslim guests. If you could just
		
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			raise your hand for us, I would really
		
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			appreciate it.
		
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			Alright. Alright. We wanna welcome you guys to
		
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			the Islamic Institute of Orange County. I think
		
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			for you, this might be or for many
		
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			of you, the first time you're attending. So
		
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			want, as a community, to welcome you. We
		
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			thank you for taking time out and joining
		
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			us here at IIOC.
		
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			Alright. So let's get started.
		
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			As you know, we're gonna talk about how
		
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			Islam entered China. And with us is gonna
		
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			be Sheikh Mustafa Umar, who is no stranger
		
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			to us, but a little bit by Sheikh
		
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			Mustafa. He is the director of outreach and
		
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			education here at IIOC.
		
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			He's also the founder and director of California
		
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			Islamic University or CIU, which is just down
		
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			the road. So he'll be conducting,
		
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			the presentation today. We're looking for about maybe
		
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			8 to 9, 9:15.
		
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			And possibly depending on questions and answers, we
		
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			are gonna open it for q and a.
		
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			I'll give you more instructions on that later
		
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			on. But if you do have a question,
		
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			I would encourage you to write it down
		
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			or text it to yourself so that this
		
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			way, when the QA part does come around,
		
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			we're most welcome and we're ready to go.
		
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			Is that okay with everyone?
		
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			Alright. Again, the kitchen is open. If you
		
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			wanna help yourself to a plate, you're most
		
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			welcome to do so. Without further ado, Sheikh
		
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			Mostafa'amah. Alright. Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem.
		
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			I begin in the name of God, the
		
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			Compassionate, the Merciful.
		
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			So
		
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			as is my usual
		
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			way of doing things,
		
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			let's get straight into it. Alright. So this
		
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			is about the history of Islam in China.
		
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			The first question is why should we care?
		
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			And when I say we,
		
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			I'm addressing specifically Muslims since the majority of
		
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			this audience is Muslim.
		
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			As Muslims,
		
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			we care,
		
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			and the world also cares
		
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			because there's a lot of Muslims living in
		
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			China.
		
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			Sir Thomas Walker Arnold was a missionary orientalist
		
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			who wrote in 18/96
		
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			that it is remarkable
		
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			how little attention until very recently
		
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			has been paid to Islam in China.
		
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			So he wrote that in 18 96,
		
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			and he is writing that as an orientalist,
		
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			specifically for the Western powers.
		
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			What that means is that even the western
		
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			countries were not really paying much attention to
		
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			Islam in China
		
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			during that time until
		
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			2 major rebellions
		
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			broke out around
		
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			a little bit after,
		
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			professor Arnold was actually writing these words. So
		
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			we're gonna get to that. We're gonna talk
		
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			about that. But that's when the imperial powers
		
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			imperial western powers started to take note of
		
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			Muslims in China because
		
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			they wanted to know what amount of power
		
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			and influence they had and what potential they
		
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			had especially to, you know,
		
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			affect
		
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			the Russian Empire in particular.
		
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			From the Muslim perspective,
		
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			why do we care?
		
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			Because for Muslims,
		
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			we are united by faith with all people
		
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			around the world. So there's about 1,800,000,000
		
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			Muslims in the world, and every single person
		
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			who's a Muslim is considered to be our
		
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			brother and sister in faith.
		
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			And therefore, we should learn about all different
		
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			Muslims from all different walks of life. Right?
		
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			So that's one reason why it's important, to
		
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			know. The second
		
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			is because Muslims have been in China for
		
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			1400 years, so they have a very long
		
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			history.
		
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			And today, if you look at China, that's
		
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			just that's China for you, just so you
		
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			know. I know some people, especially many Americans,
		
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			are not that familiar with, you know, where
		
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			countries are in the world. Maybe even some
		
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			states are in America. So just to remind
		
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			you exactly where in the world we're talking
		
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			about.
		
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			Hopefully, you know where America is, but, you
		
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			know, outside of that, we're on the other
		
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			side. Okay? So, we're talking about China over
		
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			here. So Muslims have been in China for
		
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			1400 years.
		
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			Today, there's an estimated number of 20 to
		
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			100000000
		
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			Muslims
		
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			living in China today.
		
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			And it's important to talk about the population
		
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			here for a moment.
		
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			Wanna open it up? Okay. That's fine. Yeah.
		
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			So it's important to talk about this population,
		
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			because these numbers are very diverse. There's a
		
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			big difference between 20,000,000 and 70,000,000 and a
		
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			100,000,000.
		
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			So what's happening is these are the official
		
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			accounts,
		
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			from the government of about how many Muslims
		
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			there are in China. If you look at
		
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			the CIA World Factbook, they will take 20,000,000
		
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			as the number as well. But what's going
		
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			on is if you count carefully and you
		
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			understand
		
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			the politics
		
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			of China, which we'll cover today inshallah,
		
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			there are people who are excluded from being
		
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			counted as Muslims
		
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			because Muslims are seen almost as a racial
		
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			category
		
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			rather than as a religious category.
		
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			So there was a,
		
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			population statistics report that took place in 1936.
		
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			And in 1936,
		
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			the official record was there were 48,000,000,104,240
		
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			Muslims living in China. That's 10.5
		
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			percent of the population
		
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			over a 100 or a 120 years ago
		
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			approximately.
		
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			Right? So what happened to that number and
		
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			how did the population statistics change? You we
		
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			have to question that. And according to and
		
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			these are not like Muslim numbers. Right? These
		
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			are like you know, this is not something
		
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			that's just a conspiracy of Muslims that are
		
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			making them up. So BBC's website religion and
		
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			ethics, they have the correct number and that
		
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			is they say there are between 20 to
		
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			100,000,000 Muslims in China. And we don't know
		
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			exactly what that number is. But that means
		
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			that they make up somewhere between 1.5
		
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			to 7.5
		
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			percent of that population. Right? This is a
		
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			little bit of an old estimate. Right? So
		
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			that's a very significant
		
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			population
		
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			that's not always being counted for in terms
		
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			of,
		
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			you know, how many Muslims there truly are
		
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			in China. Now
		
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			most Muslims,
		
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			they actually live in the Xinjiang province, which
		
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			is the northwest.
		
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			If you look over there in the northwest,
		
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			if you can see that, that's most where
		
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			most of the Muslims actually live in China
		
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			today. And what is happening over there is
		
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			many of the people over there, they are
		
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			Uighurs. There's a specific population,
		
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			and they're being persecuted
		
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			en masse in very large numbers. So we're
		
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			gonna be talking about that a little bit
		
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			towards the end of the presentation,
		
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			but that's also why it's important for us
		
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			to understand and know about the Muslim population
		
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			living in China.
		
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			So let's start from the beginning. Alright? If
		
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			you'll from the beginning,
		
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			before Islam,
		
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			before Islam meaning before even the life of
		
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			the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, there
		
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			were commercial relations between Arabia
		
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			and between China. So it's not like there
		
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			was no contact,
		
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			And the actual relations that they had were
		
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			due to the what's called the silk route.
		
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			Right? So the silk route, they would be
		
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			traveling they would be transporting goods back and
		
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			forth, going all the way to the Roman
		
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			Empire. There were land routes and there were
		
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			sea routes. So on this map over here,
		
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			you can see that the red routes are
		
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			the land routes and the blue routes are
		
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			the sea routes. The way that goods would
		
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			get from China to Arabia
		
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			was through Ceylon.
		
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			And Ceylon, if you've ever had Ceylon tea
		
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			Anyone drink Ceylon tea? Do you know where
		
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			it comes from?
		
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			Exactly. It's coming from Sri Lanka. So it's
		
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			going through China from these port cities over
		
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			here. It's coming around, going through here and
		
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			then ending up in Arabia going right This
		
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			is exactly where Makkah and Madinah are. So
		
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			it's passing right through here. So what you
		
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			do is you find that there's trade taking
		
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			place. And whenever trade takes place,
		
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			it's not only trade of goods, it's not
		
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			only trade of, you know, silk or, you
		
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			know, material things, but there's also a trade
		
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			of ideas. There's also a trade of religion.
		
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			And
		
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			that is naturally going to be shared when
		
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			Islam comes on the scene.
		
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			The prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, received
		
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			revelation in the year 610
		
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			CE, and he passed away in the year
		
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			632
		
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			CE.
		
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			So when Islam came,
		
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			it was going to reach China one way
		
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			or another
		
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			through trade at minimum
		
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			through both routes. Both through the sea route,
		
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			which is means that it's gonna reach in
		
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			the southern area, and also through the land
		
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			route.
		
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			So let's take a look at how Islam
		
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			actually arrived in China through both routes. So
		
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			the first way that it arrived, let's talk
		
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			about sea, first of all. So arriving,
		
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			Islam meaning Muslims.
		
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			Yeah. Testing. Came back? Okay.
		
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			So Islam meaning Muslims arriving and then sharing
		
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			Islam with other people. It came through the
		
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			sea route
		
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			through there's a few different theories, okay, about
		
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			what happened. I'll tell you the theories,
		
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			and I'll tell you what's agreed upon and
		
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			how we should process that information. So according
		
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			to Chinese Muslim sources and some other Arab
		
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			Muslim sources,
		
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			they say that in the year 6 a
		
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			h, which was 628,
		
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			the prophet Muhammad
		
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			signed a treaty called the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah
		
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			with
		
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			the Quraysh who were fighting against the Muslims.
		
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			The year after that or as soon as
		
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			the treaty was signed, the Prophet
		
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			started sending out delegations or sending out,
		
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			envoys
		
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			to different regions. So he sent an envoy
		
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			to the Persian emperor, he sent an envoy
		
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			to the Roman emperor, he sent an envoy
		
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			to, you know, the patriarch of Alexandria in
		
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			Egypt.
		
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			And there are records that say that he
		
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			sent a companion,
		
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			a disciple of the prophet, peace be upon
		
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			him, by the name of Wahab ibn Abi
		
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			Kashah
		
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			to China
		
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			to actually go and meet with the emperor
		
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			at the time.
		
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			When he met with the emperor of China,
		
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			he was received very warmly and he was
		
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			actually given permission to build a mosque
		
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			in China.
		
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			Now that was in the year 628 or
		
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			629.
		
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			That's a very very early date while the
		
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			Prophet
		
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			was still alive. Now these are things that
		
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			are written in sources
		
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			and what happened was when he came back
		
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			to visit the city of Medina, he returned
		
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			in the year 632.
		
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			The Prophet
		
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			had just died.
		
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			So he was very sad.
		
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			He decided he's gonna take a copy of
		
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			the Quran. He's gonna move back to China
		
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			and as soon as he got back there,
		
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			he lived a little while, but the journey
		
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			was very long for him. He passed away
		
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			and he died.
		
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			So that means that there was a Muslim
		
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			settlement at that time at a very, very
		
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			early period in the region of what's called
		
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			Canton. And Canton is Guangzhou, and we'll talk
		
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			a little bit more about that, you know,
		
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			what region that is and, where the different
		
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			regions.
		
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			I'll get to that moment. So
		
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			there was a Muslim traveler or a traveler
		
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			in the 9th century
		
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			passing through this area, and they were describing.
		
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			So what you have is you have visitors
		
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			come through, they pass through and they describe
		
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			what is the life what is life like
		
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			for the Muslims who are living in this
		
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			in this area, in this region.
		
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			So one of the visitors comes along and
		
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			says in 9th century,
		
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			the Muslims who were living in this region
		
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			of Canton, they actually had their own qadi,
		
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			meaning they had their own judge.
		
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			They did not pray for the Chinese emperor,
		
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			but they used to play pray for the
		
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			Muslim Khalifa, meaning that their loyalty and their
		
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			allegiance was actually to the caliph in the
		
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			Muslim world, but they were actually living in
		
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			China at the time. So they kind of
		
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			kept isolated communities.
		
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			And the way in which Islam spread was
		
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			through 3 main
		
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			methods. 1 was through new arrivals. People kept
		
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			arriving in these areas
		
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			and more Muslims were there. There was also
		
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			marriage. There was intermarriage between the Muslim men
		
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			who were going there and the other people
		
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			and or or maybe the women, and there
		
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			was conversion taking place as well. K? So
		
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			the
		
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			from c,
		
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			right, when the Muslims started getting into this
		
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			region a little while later, you have the
		
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			major trade centers which were already set up
		
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			in China, such as Guangzhou,
		
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			Guangzhou, and Yangtze.
		
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			They were probably already had their first mosques
		
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			built at a very early period.
		
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			We cannot trace
		
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			exactly
		
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			what dates those mosques were built or even
		
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			what happened to them because you're talking about
		
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			1400 years of history later. So we can
		
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			we can go back and we can date
		
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			some of these mosques which we're going to
		
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			be doing, but you can imagine wherever Muslims
		
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			go,
		
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			they're gonna be setting up a Masjid. Right?
		
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			They set up a mosque because they get
		
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			they need somewhere to pray. So that means
		
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			that in a very very early period, maybe
		
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			when the Prophet was alive or just a
		
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			little bit after his death, there were already
		
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			masjids
		
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			set up in China and not just on
		
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			the western province, but coming from the sea
		
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			route, they were being set up in this
		
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			region over here.
		
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			So that is the introduction,
		
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			of Islam
		
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			by sea. Now what about by land? By
		
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			land is very different. Why is sea so
		
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			easy, actually?
		
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			The reason why a lot of this trade
		
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			goes through sea is because when you're on
		
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			a boat,
		
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			you can travel a lot faster. It's a
		
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			lot cheaper to travel than traveling through land,
		
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			and you don't have to go through so
		
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			much enemy territory when it comes to, you
		
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			know, travelling
		
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			via the ocean or via the sea.
		
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			So when it comes to land, it took
		
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			a little bit longer.
		
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			So what happened was the first
		
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			contact between the Muslims and the Chinese
		
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			via land
		
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			was after the death of Yazdegirt.
		
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			So a little bit of history, a little
		
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			bit of background
		
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			is that
		
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			after, you know, after the Prophet
		
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			passed away, during the time of Abu Bakr
		
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			and Umar when they were the Khalifas,
		
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			the Muslims were actually fighting the Roman Empire
		
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			and the Persian Empire. And they were dominating
		
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			the Persian Empire very quickly.
		
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			Yazdegird
		
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			was the last Oh.
		
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			Everyone okay? Yes.
		
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			Yazdegird
		
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			was the last Kisra or the last Khosroos
		
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			of the Persian Empire.
		
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			And he was pretty much the last one
		
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			that was that was being chased out by
		
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			the Muslims. So he goes and he wants
		
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			his son, pharaohs,
		
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			to take power. So when Yazdegir dies,
		
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			pharaohs is like the last pretty much the
		
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			remnants of the Persian Empire, all that's left.
		
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			Pharaohs goes to the Chinese Emperor Gaozong
		
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			and he asks him This is in the
		
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			year 651
		
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			and he asks him look,
		
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			Persian The Persian Empire and the Chinese used
		
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			to have
		
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			an alliance for a very long period of
		
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			time because they live right next to each
		
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			other. As you can see, Persia and China
		
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			is not that far. This is, you know,
		
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			this is the map of where the Tang
		
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			dynasty
		
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			actually had their influence. So you can see
		
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			going west, they make it all the way
		
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			in the in rows of where the Persian
		
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			empire was. So there were good relations
		
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			some sometimes between the Persian empire and the
		
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			Chinese.
		
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			So what ends up happening is that pharaohs,
		
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			the last Persian Emperor
		
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			of the,
		
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			you know,
		
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			what is their what is their dynasty called?
		
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			Sassanid. Thank you. So the Sassanid dynasty,
		
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			he goes and he asked the Chinese Emperor,
		
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			you need to help us against these Muslims.
		
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			Please fight the Muslims for us so we
		
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			can reestablish the Persian empire. So what is
		
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			the emperor, Chinese emperor Gaozong, his response? He's
		
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			from the Tang dynasty.
		
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			His response is,
		
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			look, you know,
		
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			that is way too far for us to
		
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			send an army because look at his empire,
		
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			you know, it's all the way to the
		
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			east side. So he's gonna send an army
		
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			all the way over there to go and
		
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			fight the Muslims. He said, I can't do
		
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			that for you. I wanna help you out,
		
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			but I can't do that. So instead what
		
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			I'm gonna do is I'm going to directly
		
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			contact the Khalifa of the time. Does anyone
		
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			know who it was?
		
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			Othman ibn Affan.
		
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			So Othman, the 3rd Khalifa
		
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			is contacted by the Chinese Emperor
		
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			and he's basically gonna ask them, you know,
		
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			can you can you take it easy on
		
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			the Persians for a while and just let
		
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			them, you know, just let them be. They
		
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			already kind of lost their empire and everything.
		
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			So he sends
		
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			an ambassador
		
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			to the Muslim Khalifa.
		
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			The Muslim Khalifa welcomes the Chinese ambassador
		
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			very nicely, and he gives him, you know,
		
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			some presents and welcomes him nicely and everything.
		
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			And then,
		
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			I think the following year,
		
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			Othman sends another ambassador over to China just
		
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			to solidify relations, Hey, we have a good
		
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			relationship, everything's going fine. So relationship
		
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			The relationship between the Muslim or the Muslim
		
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			Empire, the Khalifa,
		
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			and the Chinese Empire at the time started
		
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			on a very good foot.
		
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			So there were very friendly
		
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			relations taking place in the year 6651.
		
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			Then from there, what ends up happening is
		
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			that in the time of the Khalifa Walid
		
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			who ruled from 705
		
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			to 715,
		
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			he sends a general by the name of
		
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			Qutayba ibn Muslim. He was the governor of
		
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			Khorasan.
		
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			Khorasan is in Central Asia. It's a northern
		
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			region province kind of, I can't see, like
		
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			up here, this region.
		
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			So he goes and he
		
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			he had captured Bukhara.
		
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			So he had captured the area where Imam
		
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			Bukhara is from, Bukhara, the city of Bukhara.
		
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			He captured
		
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			Samarkand, and they start reaching China. So once
		
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			they reach China, he sends envoys into China
		
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			and says, look. Hey, we're here at your
		
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			borders now. You know, what are we gonna
		
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			do? So the Chinese emperor decides, you know
		
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			what? Let's give him some presence
		
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			and maintain peaceful relationship with the Muslims. We
		
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			don't need to get into a fight. So
		
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			they stop,
		
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			expanding to the east because the relationship between
		
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			them is good. Now,
		
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			this
		
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			is all the history that's written in the
		
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			Muslim side.
		
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			Now if you look at what's written on
		
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			the Chinese side, we have 2 groups of
		
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			sources. Right? We have sources from the Muslim
		
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			side and we have sources from the Chinese
		
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			side. So from the Chinese side, one of
		
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			the things we have are the annals of
		
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			the year 713
		
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			to 742.
		
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			This is what is written inside one of
		
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			the historians who were writing for the,
		
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			for the empire in China.
		
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			They wrote, and I quote, the barbarians
		
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			of the West
		
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			came in crowds. K. So the Muslims are
		
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			being referred to as barbarians, but they're they're
		
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			western, because western compared to China. So the
		
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			barbarians of the west came in crowds
		
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			like a deluge
		
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			from a distance of more than 3000 miles
		
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			and from more than 100 different kingdoms,
		
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			bringing as tribute their sacred books, which were
		
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			received and deposited in the hall, set apart
		
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			for translation of sacred books or canonical books
		
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			in the imperial palace.
		
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			So what are they saying? They're saying at
		
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			the beginning of the 8th century, meaning the
		
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			early 700,
		
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			the Muslims were coming into our land
		
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			and there's so many of them coming in
		
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			and one of the things that they're bringing
		
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			is they're bringing their holy books.
		
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			They're bringing their Quran, they're bringing their other
		
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			religious books that they have, and what happened?
		
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			Because of good diplomatic relations,
		
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			they accepted them, they took them, they put
		
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			them in the hall for translations inside the
		
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			imperial palace, and they kept those books with
		
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			all the other religious books that were there.
		
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			And then he continues.
		
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			And he says, from this period, the religious
		
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			doctrines of these different countries
		
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			were thus diffused and openly practiced in the
		
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			empire.
		
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			So what is why is that quote important?
		
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			It's because the Chinese sources themselves, the official
		
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			Chinese sources are saying that at the beginning
		
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			of 8th century, early 700,
		
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			you have
		
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			Islam being practiced, you have lots of Muslims
		
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			there it's being diffused and it's being openly
		
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			practiced and there's
		
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			this is something that's known now. People know
		
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			about Islam, and it's something that not only
		
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			the government knows, the people know. Right? And
		
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			then what happens is you have more information
		
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			coming from Chinese documents,
		
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			ambassadors are coming in,
		
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			bringing presence from the Khalifa Hisham who live
		
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			from 724
		
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			to 743,
		
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			the Khalifa Mansur.
		
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			This is all during the Tang dynasty. Okay?
		
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			You guys you know you know the orange
		
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			drink Tang? Know, the the yellow stuff, right?
		
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			That has nothing to do with this. Okay?
		
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			Just wanted to make sure you understand that.
		
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			Alright, so this is
		
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			Just wanted to make sure everyone's awake. Okay?
		
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			So
		
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			the Tang dynasty from 6 18 to 907.
		
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			So all of this is happening in the
		
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			early 700
		
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			or in the 700.
		
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			So the Khalifa Hisham, he sends ambassadors
		
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			and the Chinese are sending ambassadors. So there's
		
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			diplomatic relations during this time between the Muslims
		
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			and between the Muslim government that's being run
		
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			out of, you know, Damascus at the time.
		
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			Then the caliph Mansur,
		
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			he goes and he sends an ambassador
		
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			to the Emperor
		
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			Satsang in 757.
		
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			And
		
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			what they did was they agreed upon this
		
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			trade stimulus that we're gonna go and we're
		
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			gonna keep trading with each other because this
		
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			is a good business relationship. There's a lot
		
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			of, you know, a lot of goods to
		
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			be passed through here. Right? So when goods
		
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			get passed, religion gets passed, good relations ensue.
		
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			Then you have,
		
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			in the year 758,
		
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			there were 4,000 Muslim soldiers
		
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			that were sent into China. So now keep
		
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			in mind, up until now pretty much there's
		
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			not much military
		
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			intervention going on with China and the Muslims.
		
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			But in the year 758,
		
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			what happened was
		
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			the emperor Satsang,
		
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			he wanted to crush a rebellion that was
		
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			taking place in his land. So he sends
		
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			a message to the Muslim Khalifa at the
		
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			time who was Al Mansur.
		
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			And in the year 758,
		
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			he asked for help.
		
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			So he sends 4,000 Muslim soldiers to go
		
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			and crush a rebellion.
		
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			So they crushed the rebellion,
		
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			they defeated their enemies,
		
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			and then they're told to come back.
		
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			And for some reason, I couldn't figure out
		
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			exactly why, but these 4,000 Muslim soldiers, they
		
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			just did not want to return. And they
		
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			decided, no, we're gonna stay in China, and
		
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			we're gonna live here with all the other
		
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			Muslims who are living, you know, in this
		
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			region here, where in the trading ports. Now
		
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			I don't know, maybe they like the Chinese
		
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			food,
		
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			maybe they like the Chinese women. I don't
		
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			know what the reason exactly it was that
		
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			they decided to stay, but they did not
		
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			wanna come back. So what ends up happening
		
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			now is you see that merchants who are
		
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			going and trading with China, they start going
		
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			and staying in the Muslim regions in these
		
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			port cities primarily.
		
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			And Muslims who are on the border over
		
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			here in the northwest
		
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			are coming in and they're trading from land.
		
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			So there's land trade taking place here, and
		
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			then there's sea trade
		
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			taking place
		
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			from around this entire region right here. So
		
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			Muslims start to settle and populate these areas.
		
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			And these areas start to grow, they start
		
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			to flourish. The Muslims are quite wealthy because
		
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			they're businessmen and they're doing good business,
		
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			and they have experience from that too. So
		
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			a lot of them are Persians, a lot
		
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			of them are Arabs, they're used to business,
		
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			so that everything is going fine here. One
		
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			of the other things
		
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			that we find is
		
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			that Muslims, wherever they go,
		
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			they tend to even if they don't openly
		
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			practice Islam,
		
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			their manifestation
		
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			of Islam is public.
		
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			So what does that mean? So we talked
		
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			about the Silk Road. Right? The Silk Road
		
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			has all these caravans of people going with
		
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			all of their merchandise.
		
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			It takes a very long time to travel,
		
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			and there's so many different, you know, people
		
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			from different countries travelling across that Silk Road
		
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			route. But what Muslims have to do while
		
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			they're travelling
		
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			is 5 times a day, or for some
		
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			of them when they're travelling 3 times a
		
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			day, they can combine prayers, they're gonna stop
		
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			and they're gonna pray. So they stopped and
		
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			they started praying on the roads right there
		
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			in the Silk Road, and everyone is watching
		
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			these people. They're thinking, what's going on over
		
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			here? So according to Chinese Muslim accounts,
		
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			in the beginning,
		
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			the the Muslim merchants were trading were were
		
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			praying on the Silk Road on on the
		
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			actual,
		
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			pathways.
		
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			So sometimes there were so many of them
		
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			that they would kind of almost start to
		
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			block some of the pathways. So somebody one
		
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			of the emperors came along or one of
		
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			the leaders came along and said, hey, why
		
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			don't we help you? We build a masjid
		
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			for you so you can go pray over
		
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			there and, you know, the road is gonna
		
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			be clear.
		
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			So that may have been the underlying reason
		
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			of why some of the masjids were originally
		
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			built. Those are from the Chinese Muslim sources
		
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			anyways.
		
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			Another reason why Islam spread is because these
		
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			Muslim traders were very honest. They were very
		
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			particular, they were very honest, they were upright
		
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			and because of that people started to notice,
		
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			hey, who are these new people? They're, you
		
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			know, they seem to be pretty good people
		
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			and they're honest, let's learn about who they
		
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			are. And when they explained to them who
		
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			they were, they realized that, hey, there's this
		
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			new religion called Islam, so people started learning
		
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			more about Islam.
		
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			Another thing that happened in the very early
		
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			period here is that there were a lot
		
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			of Jews who were living in China, and
		
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			they were very wealthy,
		
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			and they were actually employed by the government
		
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			as well.
		
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			So they were in the trading ports, and
		
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			they were doing good, and they were good
		
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			businessmen as well. But then it says that
		
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			by the end of 7th century
		
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			most of the Jews actually ended up converting
		
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			to Islam and they remained in China. Now
		
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			some people will maybe doubt that, so I
		
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			put the source here just in case you're
		
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			wondering. This is Clark Abell Narrative of a
		
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			Journey in the Interior of China, page 361.
		
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			This was written in London in the year
		
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			18/18.
		
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			Alright. So
		
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			in case anyone questions me, I have all
		
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			the sources, you know, for the material I'm
		
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			presenting here. So what that basically tells us
		
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			in summary is that at a very early
		
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			period,
		
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			Muslims were very well established in China.
		
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			They were somewhat segregated because they lived in
		
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			their own regions, but they're still living in
		
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			China. There were mercantile Muslim communities
		
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			that existed in the port cities that I
		
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			was mentioning, specifically in the cities of Guangzhou,
		
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			Quanzhou, and Hangzhou,
		
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			in the southeastern
		
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			seaboard region. And then they were in the
		
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			interior
		
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			of China as well in Chang'an,
		
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			Kaifeng, and Yangtze.
		
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			Alright. I know I'm probably slaughtering those names,
		
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			but that's okay. I researched some of them.
		
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			I couldn't research all of them on how
		
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			to pronounce them correctly, so you'll have to
		
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			pardon me. Alright. So
		
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			let's take a look at,
		
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			some other parts of history. So
		
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			this Masjid, this mosque is
		
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			pronounced I don't know how it's pronounced, but
		
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			the Huasheng mosque?
		
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			Huasheng?
		
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			Anybody know how to pronounce this correctly?
		
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			My one Chinese source I had? Okay. It
		
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			doesn't know either. That's okay.
		
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			So Huasheng mosque, also known as the lighthouse
		
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			mosque. Can anyone take a guess why you
		
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			think this is called the lighthouse mosque?
		
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			It looks like there's a lighthouse there. That's
		
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			actually a minaret,
		
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			but the thing is most minarets were decorated.
		
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			For some reason, they did not decorate this
		
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			minaret, and it's really thick, so people thought
		
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			it looked like a lighthouse.
		
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			So they just called it the lighthouse mosque.
		
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			Alright? So this is this is one of
		
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			the oldest mosques in the entire world.
		
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			This is this is this was
		
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			either has one of 2 dates on it.
		
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			It was either built in 6/27
		
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			by Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas, who is a
		
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			companion of the Prophet
		
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			and this is according to the Chinese Muslims.
		
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			They say Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas came, and
		
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			there are Chinese manuscripts saying that he actually
		
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			is the one who built this mosque. Right?
		
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			Now this could be the case,
		
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			but some people say, Well, we don't have
		
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			older documentation
		
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			proving that, and we don't know if Sa'd
		
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			really went into this land or not. So,
		
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			let's say it could be or it could
		
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			not be.
		
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			There's another story about what could have happened
		
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			afterwards. You have to understand,
		
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			the Masjid doesn't look like this from day
		
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			1. Like most masjids you know even in
		
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			America, right? The way they look now, it
		
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			didn't look like that, you know, 50 years
		
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			ago or 30 years ago or whatever. So
		
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			it gets developed and it evolves over time.
		
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			So it had an original structure,
		
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			but then the structure shifts over time. So
		
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			one account is that this was built by
		
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			Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas, who's a very important
		
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			companion of the Prophet, peace be upon him,
		
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			in the year 627.
		
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			K. This is an old picture of it.
		
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			I just threw this one from 18/60.
		
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			Here's a modern picture of the Masjid. K?
		
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			The second one
		
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			the second theory is that
		
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			Emperor Gaozang,
		
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			the one that I mentioned to you before
		
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			in 651,
		
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			you know, who sent the ambassador to Uthman
		
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			was, you know, encountered by pharaohs.
		
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			When he received the Muslim envoy,
		
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			who was sent by the Khalifa
		
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			and he arrived in China,
		
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			the emperor himself said we should construct
		
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			a Masjid for these Muslims in Canton, and
		
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			Canton here is Guangzhou.
		
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			And Canton here is Guangzhou. It's one of
		
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			those port cities that I was mentioning, and
		
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			I'll show you a map in a moment.
		
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			So, actually, I'll just show you a map
		
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			right now. So that's where, no. That's a
		
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			different map. So anyways, we'll come back to
		
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			that map. So in,
		
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			the emperor himself,
		
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			according to one account, decided to build this
		
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			Masjid
		
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			in memory of the prophet Muhammad
		
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			So it's also known as the memorial mosque
		
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			in Canton.
		
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			So
		
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			the third theory is that it was reconstructed
		
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			in 742,
		
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			and that's where it got, you know, its
		
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			current you
		
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			know, style.
		
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			And they're saying that, you know, it must
		
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			have looked somewhere,
		
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			you know, somewhat a little bit different. So
		
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			the truth is somewhere in between these accounts.
		
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			We don't know exactly
		
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			who or when this was built, but we
		
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			know this was so
		
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			early it's You know, if you say a
		
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			masjid is over a 1000 years old, you're
		
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			like, Wow, a 1000 years old. No, this
		
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			is
		
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			1300
		
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			years old.
		
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			Okay? So this is a very very old
		
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			mosque or more. It's older than 1300 years
		
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			old potentially.
		
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			So this is one of the interesting mosques
		
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			to go and check out. It shows you
		
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			a little bit about the history of Muslims
		
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			in China. Now,
		
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			the chronicles of the Tang dynasty
		
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			actually talk about this mosque. So they wrote
		
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			they wrote
		
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			about this mosque themselves. K? So this is
		
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			what they have to say. They said that
		
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			in Canton,
		
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			okay, in Guangzhou,
		
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			a great number of strangers
		
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			from Medina
		
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			and several other regions
		
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			arrived in this land.
		
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			So Medina is where the Muslims are coming
		
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			from, and then they described them. They said
		
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			these strangers
		
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			these strangers
		
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			worship the heaven,
		
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			meaning they worship God. Right? And they had
		
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			neither statue,
		
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			nor idol, nor image in their temples.
		
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			No statues, no pictures, no idols, nothing.
		
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			Says, The kingdom of Madinah is close to
		
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			that of India,
		
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			from the perspective of the Chinese at least.
		
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			In this kingdom originated the religion of these
		
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			strangers,
		
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			which is different to that of the Buddha.
		
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			They do not eat pork or drink wine,
		
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			and they regard as unclean the flesh of
		
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			any animal that is not killed by themselves.
		
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			So they have to eat halal meat.
		
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			They are nowadays called the Hui Hui. Did
		
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			I pronounce that correctly?
		
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			Yes. Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Alright. So they had a temple called the
		
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			Temple of the Blessed Memory.
		
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			Okay? So they're talking about this, and they're
		
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			saying this was built at the commencement
		
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			of the Tang dynasty.
		
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			K. That could potentially mean it was built
		
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			by the Tang dynasty because of the emperor,
		
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			or it was built at the beginning of
		
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			the Tang dynasty.
		
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			At the side of the temple is a
		
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			large round tower, 160
		
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			feet high, called the Kangta.
		
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			Kangta means the undecorated
		
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			tower.
		
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			And these strangers used to go every day
		
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			to this temple to perform their ceremonies.
		
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			And aft after having asked and obtained the
		
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			emperor's permission
		
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			to reside in Canton, They built magnificent
		
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			houses
		
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			of a different style to that of our
		
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			country. They were very rich and they obeyed
		
00:37:00 --> 00:37:02
			a chief chosen by themselves.
		
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			So this is what's being written in the
		
00:37:04 --> 00:37:05
			Chinese accounts,
		
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			of the early Muslims who are living in
		
00:37:08 --> 00:37:10
			Canton and some of the other cities. So
		
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			this is one of the masjids over there.
		
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			That was all the way down,
		
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			where? Down here. So now we're moving up
		
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			to the North
		
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			East,
		
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			which is kind of like closer to modern
		
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			day capital Beijing.
		
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			Here, we see city called
		
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			Xian.
		
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			The Great Mosque of Xian was built in
		
00:37:33 --> 00:37:36
			the 8th century, which means the 700. So
		
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			it's also one of the oldest mosques
		
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			inside China, and it's all the way in
		
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			the mainland, it's not just near the ports.
		
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			So to today, this is the largest physical
		
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			mosque in China. There's a courtyard complex,
		
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			it's a very popular site.
		
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			It has,
		
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			5 courtyards,
		
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			20 buildings, and is 12,000 square meters in
		
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			size. Right? So this is kind of like
		
00:38:01 --> 00:38:02
			a tourist attraction
		
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			for people in China,
		
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			specifically for Muslim delegations who go and visit
		
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			China.
		
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			So
		
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			it's very beautiful. Here's some different pictures.
		
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			Right? And then here is the entrance to
		
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			the prayer area. I couldn't find a picture
		
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			of inside the prayer area, and here's some
		
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			other, of the courtyards that are out there.
		
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			So this is really interesting because if you
		
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			look at it now, this has Chinese
		
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			architectural form mixed in with some Islamic functionality.
		
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			And there's a history behind that. The original
		
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			mosque,
		
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			which over 1300 years old, was not exactly
		
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			like this. So we're gonna talk hopefully a
		
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			little bit about the history of how that
		
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			evolution came to be
		
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			and what it means. Okay?
		
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			Alright. So
		
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			moving on to,
		
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			the Song dynasty. K? So with the reason
		
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			why I put this under dynasties
		
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			is because
		
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			the change of political power in any country
		
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			affects the people of that country. Right? As
		
00:39:04 --> 00:39:07
			we saw with the election of different presidents,
		
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			you know, even in America. So it affects
		
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			the people, so it's the same way it
		
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			affected the Muslims. So under the Song dynasty
		
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			around now we're hitting, like, the year 1000
		
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			approximately,
		
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			Muslims were playing a major role in the
		
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			import export industry in particular because they were
		
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			living on the seacoast, there was a lot
		
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			of trading going on, and the director general
		
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			of shipping at this time was a post
		
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			that was consistently held by Muslims year after
		
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			year. The person who's in charge of shipping
		
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			and receiving in these ports was always a
		
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			post held by Muslims because they were very
		
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			good merchants and traders.
		
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			In the year 10/70,
		
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			the emperor
		
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			Shenzong
		
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			invited
		
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			5,300
		
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			Muslim mercenaries from the region of Bukhara.
		
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			Mercenaries are soldier for hire, basically.
		
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			So when they invited them, he wanted them
		
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			to settle in China.
		
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			Why? Because in the northeast of China, there
		
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			was a Lao empire who was giving him
		
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			some problems.
		
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			So he wanted Muslim help for the second
		
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			time. Right? So they come,
		
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			and they start to move right
		
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			near where modern day Beijing is, and they
		
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			settle there,
		
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			and they protect the borders,
		
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			by being paid off by the Chinese emperor.
		
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			So
		
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			these men settled in that area. This is
		
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			Kaifeng and Yanqing, which is modern day Beijing.
		
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			10 years later,
		
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			10,000
		
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			more Muslims from Bukhara
		
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			go and resettle in exactly the same era,
		
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			in the same area over here. And they
		
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			were led by a man by the name
		
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			of Amir Sayed,
		
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			and his Chinese name was
		
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			Sofeir
		
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			or su feir.
		
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			Right? So
		
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			he's a very popular man.
		
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			He's called the father of the Muslim community
		
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			in China. So he's very well known among
		
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			the Chinese
		
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			and before him
		
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			in in China, under the Tang dynasty and
		
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			even under the Song dynasty prior to the
		
00:41:01 --> 00:41:01
			year 10/80,
		
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			Islam used to be called Dashifa
		
00:41:05 --> 00:41:06
			or Tashifa,
		
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			which basically means law of the Arabs.
		
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			That was the name of Islam.
		
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			After he comes in, he's so popular and
		
00:41:13 --> 00:41:14
			he's so influential,
		
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			he renamed the religion to Hui Hui Zhao.
		
00:41:19 --> 00:41:20
			Zhao? Is that right?
		
00:41:23 --> 00:41:23
			Jo?
		
00:41:24 --> 00:41:26
			Jo. Alright. Hui Hui Hui Hui Hui.
		
00:41:27 --> 00:41:30
			Khos? Alright. Which means the religion of the
		
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			Hui Hui. Hui Hui basically means Muslim. Hui
		
00:41:33 --> 00:41:35
			is being identified as being Muslim
		
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			at that time and even nowadays. So it's
		
00:41:38 --> 00:41:40
			a type of people now, but it's
		
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			identification
		
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			of being Muslim. So he renamed the religion
		
00:41:44 --> 00:41:46
			among the Chinese people as well. So there
		
00:41:46 --> 00:41:47
			was a type of respectability
		
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			that shifted
		
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			because of these immigrants who are coming from
		
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			Bukhara at the time. So now what happens
		
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			is
		
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			you have more mosques coming around.
		
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			Alright? So some quick facts about masjids in
		
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			China. Today,
		
00:42:01 --> 00:42:01
			officially,
		
00:42:02 --> 00:42:03
			there's 39,000
		
00:42:04 --> 00:42:05
			mosques in China.
		
00:42:06 --> 00:42:07
			25,000
		
00:42:07 --> 00:42:09
			of those mosques are in Xinjiang, which are
		
00:42:09 --> 00:42:10
			in the northwest
		
00:42:11 --> 00:42:14
			region where all the persecution is taking place.
		
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			The mosques are called,
		
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			They are known as,
		
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			Pure Truth Temples.
		
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			K. That's what it means, basically,
		
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			and which is interesting because the name for
		
00:42:43 --> 00:42:45
			the masjid at the time is the same
		
00:42:45 --> 00:42:47
			name that Jews gave to their synagogues. So
		
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			they both had the same name.
		
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			So now a little bit about the masjids,
		
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			or the mosques in China.
		
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			There's 2 there's different styles. So what you're
		
00:42:55 --> 00:42:57
			gonna find in some masjids is that they
		
00:42:57 --> 00:42:59
			resemble the central Asian
		
00:43:00 --> 00:43:02
			Persian style of masjids, where they have very
		
00:43:02 --> 00:43:03
			tall,
		
00:43:03 --> 00:43:04
			slender, skinny minarets.
		
00:43:05 --> 00:43:06
			They have these curvy arches.
		
00:43:07 --> 00:43:09
			They have dome shaped roofs, you know, many
		
00:43:09 --> 00:43:11
			that we're kind of used to seeing. And
		
00:43:11 --> 00:43:13
			then you have some masjids, which combine
		
00:43:14 --> 00:43:16
			the Chinese and the, you know, traditional Islamic
		
00:43:16 --> 00:43:18
			styles, where they have these flared
		
00:43:19 --> 00:43:21
			Buddhist style roofs. They have walled courtyards.
		
00:43:22 --> 00:43:23
			They have architecture
		
00:43:23 --> 00:43:26
			with these miniature domes and small minarets.
		
00:43:26 --> 00:43:28
			So there's a reason for that. We're gonna
		
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			talk about it, but since we're gonna see
		
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			some right now, I'm gonna mention it to
		
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			you. This masjid right here is the
		
00:43:35 --> 00:43:37
			Nui Nui ji mosque.
		
00:43:38 --> 00:43:39
			Yes? No?
		
00:43:40 --> 00:43:40
			Nui
		
00:43:41 --> 00:43:41
			ji mosque?
		
00:43:42 --> 00:43:42
			Alright.
		
00:43:43 --> 00:43:45
			Nui ji. Nui ji? In Beijing. In Beijing.
		
00:43:45 --> 00:43:46
			Yes.
		
00:43:46 --> 00:43:47
			Nui
		
00:43:47 --> 00:43:48
			ji. Nui ji.
		
00:43:50 --> 00:43:50
			Okay.
		
00:43:52 --> 00:43:54
			New Jie. There.
		
00:43:59 --> 00:44:00
			The Ox Street.
		
00:44:00 --> 00:44:03
			Right. Right. Right. Yes. I I I read
		
00:44:03 --> 00:44:05
			about that. Yes. So this is one of
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:07
			the oldest mosque in Beijing, which was built
		
00:44:07 --> 00:44:09
			in the year 996.
		
00:44:10 --> 00:44:13
			Today, there are 10,000 Muslims living
		
00:44:13 --> 00:44:15
			in the vicinity of this, and the mosque
		
00:44:15 --> 00:44:18
			itself is about 10,000 square meters in size.
		
00:44:18 --> 00:44:20
			So it's a very large mosque, and you
		
00:44:20 --> 00:44:21
			can see it's
		
00:44:21 --> 00:44:23
			got a very different architecture than the average
		
00:44:23 --> 00:44:26
			mosque does. That's the outside, that's the entrance.
		
00:44:27 --> 00:44:29
			This is the inside. This is what the
		
00:44:29 --> 00:44:31
			masjid looks like on the inside. So pretty
		
00:44:31 --> 00:44:32
			interesting,
		
00:44:33 --> 00:44:35
			pretty unique, and you can see the style.
		
00:44:35 --> 00:44:35
			Right?
		
00:44:36 --> 00:44:38
			This is the Idkha mosque.
		
00:44:39 --> 00:44:41
			Alright? This is in Kashkar, which is in
		
00:44:41 --> 00:44:44
			the Xinjiang province. This is the old province
		
00:44:44 --> 00:44:45
			northwest area.
		
00:44:45 --> 00:44:49
			This is the largest attended mosque in China.
		
00:44:49 --> 00:44:53
			Every Friday, there's at least 10,000 people attending
		
00:44:53 --> 00:44:55
			the Masjid, and they can actually hold up
		
00:44:55 --> 00:44:58
			to 20,000. Alright? Sometime it gets much larger.
		
00:44:58 --> 00:45:00
			It was built by Saqqis Mirza in the
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:01
			year 1442,
		
00:45:01 --> 00:45:04
			but the original structure going all the way
		
00:45:04 --> 00:45:06
			back dates from 996
		
00:45:06 --> 00:45:09
			or maybe even earlier than that.
		
00:45:09 --> 00:45:11
			This is in, Kashgar.
		
00:45:11 --> 00:45:13
			Kashgar. Alright? 16,800
		
00:45:14 --> 00:45:17
			square meters, and this is where the persecution
		
00:45:17 --> 00:45:20
			is happening. So I'm gonna return back to
		
00:45:20 --> 00:45:21
			this, in in a little bit.
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:24
			Alright. This masjid, right, as you can see,
		
00:45:24 --> 00:45:25
			looks very different.
		
00:45:26 --> 00:45:28
			This doesn't look like a Chinese masjid, but
		
00:45:28 --> 00:45:30
			it is. So this is in Kwanzu,
		
00:45:31 --> 00:45:33
			which is in Fujian area.
		
00:45:33 --> 00:45:35
			This was built in the year
		
00:45:35 --> 00:45:36
			1,009.
		
00:45:37 --> 00:45:40
			Right? And the reason why it has an
		
00:45:40 --> 00:45:42
			Arab style is because it's near the coastal
		
00:45:42 --> 00:45:45
			cities. And what was happening is not only
		
00:45:45 --> 00:45:47
			the Muslims who live in the coastal cities,
		
00:45:47 --> 00:45:49
			but you have all these visiting people coming
		
00:45:49 --> 00:45:51
			from different parts of the Muslim world
		
00:45:51 --> 00:45:53
			and they wanna see their own style of
		
00:45:53 --> 00:45:53
			architecture.
		
00:45:53 --> 00:45:55
			So they said we're gonna make it into
		
00:45:55 --> 00:45:56
			like this more arabesque
		
00:45:57 --> 00:46:00
			style rather than this Chinese style whereas you
		
00:46:00 --> 00:46:02
			find a shift in styles taking place. K?
		
00:46:02 --> 00:46:04
			So it is maintained,
		
00:46:04 --> 00:46:07
			that style as well. That's, that's the insight.
		
00:46:08 --> 00:46:09
			One of the other things,
		
00:46:10 --> 00:46:12
			the Chinese have developed or Chinese Muslims have
		
00:46:12 --> 00:46:14
			developed is what's called sini.
		
00:46:14 --> 00:46:17
			This is a calligraphic style, whereas it looks
		
00:46:17 --> 00:46:19
			kind of like Chinese characters, but if you
		
00:46:19 --> 00:46:20
			read carefully,
		
00:46:20 --> 00:46:21
			that's actually Arabic.
		
00:46:21 --> 00:46:24
			So they're writing Arabic. This is the 99
		
00:46:24 --> 00:46:26
			names of God, the 99 names of Allah
		
00:46:26 --> 00:46:28
			written in a style which is actually in
		
00:46:28 --> 00:46:30
			written in Arabic, but from the from a
		
00:46:30 --> 00:46:32
			from a distance it looks it looks different.
		
00:46:32 --> 00:46:34
			So it kind of fits in there. So
		
00:46:34 --> 00:46:36
			you'll find on a lot of masjids, it's
		
00:46:36 --> 00:46:36
			got
		
00:46:37 --> 00:46:39
			that style actually built into some of the
		
00:46:39 --> 00:46:39
			masjids.
		
00:46:40 --> 00:46:41
			Now again, a lot of this has to
		
00:46:41 --> 00:46:42
			do with ethnicity,
		
00:46:42 --> 00:46:44
			and I'm gonna try to get to that
		
00:46:44 --> 00:46:45
			in a moment. Alright.
		
00:46:46 --> 00:46:49
			So then, that was for that period. Then
		
00:46:49 --> 00:46:51
			the Mongols come. So if anyone has heard
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:53
			about the Mongols, or if you just watch
		
00:46:53 --> 00:46:55
			the Ertugrul TV show, you know, you watch
		
00:46:55 --> 00:46:57
			season 2, you'll know a little bit about
		
00:46:57 --> 00:47:00
			the Mongols. So what's happening is they came
		
00:47:00 --> 00:47:01
			and started destroying
		
00:47:01 --> 00:47:02
			much of the Muslim
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:04
			lands at the time.
		
00:47:04 --> 00:47:06
			So that Masjid that I showed you, the
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:09
			Nuji mosque in Beijing, was destroyed by the
		
00:47:09 --> 00:47:12
			armies of Genghis Khan in the year 12/15.
		
00:47:13 --> 00:47:15
			They rebuilt the Masjid in 14/43.
		
00:47:16 --> 00:47:18
			What does that tell you?
		
00:47:20 --> 00:47:21
			Yes.
		
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			That they didn't like Islam, and you can't
		
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			even rebuild it until after they're gone. Right?
		
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			Exactly.
		
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			Right? So there is a lot of issues
		
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			here. So they're known as the Yuan dynasty,
		
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			and they're the Mongols basically, Genghis Khan and
		
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			his his descendants.
		
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			So
		
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			the emperors
		
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			forbade a lot of Islamic practices, and other
		
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			religions as well. So what happened was the
		
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			Jews were not allowed to slaughter their own
		
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			animals for, like, kosher, kashrut.
		
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			The Muslims were not allowed to slaughter their
		
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			own animals. They had to hide and just
		
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			just just to slaughter a sheep, you would
		
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			have to hide and do it because if
		
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			you get caught, you could be killed.
		
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			They're not allowed to circumcise their children.
		
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			The sharia is banned
		
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			on so many different levels,
		
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			and they would try to force Muslims to
		
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			eat the meat of the Mongols, and they
		
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			say, what's wrong with you people? And there's
		
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			a whole letter from some of the early
		
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			khans who were saying, you know, these we
		
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			need to force these people to eat, but
		
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			they're refusing.
		
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			Muslims would refuse to eat the meat because
		
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			they're not Jews and Christians, and they're not
		
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			slaughtering correctly. The way that they kill their
		
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			animals is not in line with Islamic principles.
		
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			They were killed
		
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			because they refused to eat the meat or
		
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			not, you know, non zabiha meat in China
		
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			at the time under the Mongols.
		
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			What's really interesting about the time when the
		
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			Mongols were conquer or were controlling China
		
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			is they
		
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			their empire was expanding so fast because they
		
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			were conquering so much territory
		
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			that what ends up happening is that somebody
		
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			needs to administer this territory.
		
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			They're very good
		
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			warriors, the Golden Horde and they're decimating everybody,
		
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			but who's going to control all of this
		
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			land?
		
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			So now they go to the Muslims and
		
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			they say, well these Muslims are very technologically
		
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			advanced, they're scientifically developed, they have good administration,
		
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			We need to bring them in
		
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			to run this place.
		
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			So they started
		
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			recruiting,
		
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			quote unrecruiting, meaning forcing
		
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			Muslims to migrate from Central Asia and from
		
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			Iraq region and move into China to administer
		
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			these lands.
		
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			1, because they're skilled,
		
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			and 2, because they're not Chinese.
		
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			So the Mongol policy was
		
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			take minorities,
		
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			put them in positions of power so that
		
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			they can dominate the people who are the
		
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			majority of the population to keep them in
		
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			check and keep them under control. So what
		
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			ends up happening is Islam is being pers
		
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			Muslims are being persecuted under the Mongols,
		
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			but at the same time,
		
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			they're being put into positions of power
		
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			because they wanna make sure that they control
		
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			the population in China
		
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			at the time. So what ends up happening
		
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			is hundreds of thousands of Muslims were forcibly
		
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			relocated
		
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			from their Muslim lands into China to help
		
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			the Mongols administer
		
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			all of these lands that they had conquered.
		
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			So what ends up happening is they're put
		
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			into a lot of high posts. Like, for
		
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			example, under Khubalai Khan, he's one of the
		
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			main,
		
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			you know, early
		
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			leaders here in the Yuan dynasty.
		
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			He puts Muslims in high posts like,
		
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			he puts them in charge of taxation and
		
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			finance.
		
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			Muslim scholars are brought in to make calendars
		
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			to be the astronomers of the region. In
		
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			the year 12/64,
		
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			just a little bit before this, they were
		
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			bringing people in anyways. There was an architect
		
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			by the name of,
		
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			Yahaidah
		
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			Erding.
		
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			Muslim name was Arab name was Amiruddin.
		
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			He led the construction of a new capital
		
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			for Kublai Khan, who's actually in charge of
		
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			this region, and that new capital is called
		
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			the Khanbaliq
		
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			or Dadu.
		
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			Right? So this was the entire capital which
		
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			is now in Beijing today.
		
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			He actually designed it and he was building
		
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			it
		
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			for the emperor of the Yuan dynasty over
		
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			here. There were 30 Muslims who were high
		
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			court officials.
		
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			There were 12 governors in the entire region.
		
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			8 out of the 12 governors were Muslims.
		
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			Among them were Sayid Adjal, Shamsuddin, Amur, Nasruddin,
		
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			Mahmoud Yalavakh, and other names. Right?
		
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			You have construction
		
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			of observatories
		
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			in Shanxi,
		
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			you have astronomers like Jamal al Din, they
		
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			introduced 7 new instruments,
		
00:51:30 --> 00:51:33
			that actually corrected the Chinese calendar and balanced
		
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			it out. Muslim cartographers were brought in, and
		
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			they were told to make maps of the
		
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			entire silk road to the exact detail. These
		
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			were the best maps that were available.
		
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			And what this did was it helped the
		
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			Mongols to dominate trade throughout this entire region.
		
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			So what they're doing is they're bringing basically,
		
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			after destroying the Muslim empire,
		
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			they're bringing all these Muslims in, they're forcibly
		
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			making them work, but then they're also rewarding
		
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			them with high positions,
		
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			And
		
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			there there's a lot of progress in science
		
00:52:02 --> 00:52:04
			and technology in China
		
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			because
		
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			the Muslims already have that previously, but now
		
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			they're being forced to do this under the
		
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			Mongols.
		
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			So Muslim physicians started building hospitals,
		
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			they had their institutes of medicine,
		
00:52:16 --> 00:52:17
			in Beijing and Chengdu.
		
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			The works of Ibn Sina or Avicenna, they
		
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			were published. They were being taught in the
		
00:52:22 --> 00:52:24
			schools over there. Muslim mathematicians
		
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			introduced Euclidean geometry,
		
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			spherical trigonometry,
		
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			and Arabic numerals into China,
		
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			and then there was military
		
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			inventions as well. So the Mongols
		
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			had a problem taking 2 cities from the
		
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			Chinese.
		
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			One was Fansheng
		
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			and one was Xinyang.
		
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			So they could not take these 2 cities.
		
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			They were trying for years and they kept
		
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			failing. So what did they do? They bring
		
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			in Ismail and Allah ad Din, who are
		
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			2 master siege engineers
		
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			from Iraq
		
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			who build this new counterweight catapult for them
		
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			to go and destroy
		
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			these towns so that the Mongols can take
		
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			over. And what was it named?
		
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			The catapult was named the
		
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			Alright?
		
00:53:08 --> 00:53:11
			So which is interesting. So what does Hui
		
00:53:11 --> 00:53:12
			Hui mean? Muslim.
		
00:53:13 --> 00:53:14
			Pao
		
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			sounds like catapult.
		
00:53:16 --> 00:53:19
			So it's actually named the catapult. Right? So
		
00:53:19 --> 00:53:22
			they named the catapult after them, and it's
		
00:53:22 --> 00:53:24
			called the Muslim catapult. That's that's actually the
		
00:53:24 --> 00:53:27
			name that was given to it. Right? So
		
00:53:27 --> 00:53:29
			they start to develop all of this technology.
		
00:53:29 --> 00:53:31
			What ends up happening near the end of
		
00:53:31 --> 00:53:33
			the Yuan empire, I'll summarize all of this,
		
00:53:34 --> 00:53:37
			the corruption starts going up, persecution starts to
		
00:53:37 --> 00:53:38
			increase. The Muslims,
		
00:53:38 --> 00:53:41
			even though they have positions of power, they're
		
00:53:41 --> 00:53:42
			tired of this persecution,
		
00:53:42 --> 00:53:44
			so are the Han Chinese. The Han are
		
00:53:44 --> 00:53:46
			the majority of Chinese, they're also tired of
		
00:53:46 --> 00:53:47
			the persecution.
		
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			They team up together and they rebel against
		
00:53:50 --> 00:53:51
			the Mongols finally,
		
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			and they managed to overthrow the Mongols. So
		
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			the the next dynasty that comes is called
		
00:53:57 --> 00:53:58
			the Ming dynasty.
		
00:53:58 --> 00:54:01
			The founder of the Ming dynasty is Zhu
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:01
			Yuanzhang,
		
00:54:02 --> 00:54:04
			and he led Muslim generals
		
00:54:05 --> 00:54:05
			like,
		
00:54:06 --> 00:54:08
			Lan Yu against the Mongols. So the Muslims
		
00:54:08 --> 00:54:11
			and the Han Chinese were fighting together against
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:13
			the Mongols to actually get them out of
		
00:54:13 --> 00:54:14
			China.
		
00:54:14 --> 00:54:16
			Right? So there was this rebellion that took
		
00:54:16 --> 00:54:18
			place, they overthrew them,
		
00:54:18 --> 00:54:21
			and you know, the Muslims say until today
		
00:54:21 --> 00:54:23
			that the people who know their history, this
		
00:54:23 --> 00:54:25
			is why they have some respect for the
		
00:54:25 --> 00:54:27
			Muslims because they teamed up together to actually
		
00:54:27 --> 00:54:30
			overthrow the Mongols because they were persecuting everyone.
		
00:54:31 --> 00:54:33
			So by the beginning of 14th century,
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:36
			all the inhabitants of the region of Yunnan
		
00:54:36 --> 00:54:38
			had already become Muslim, and Islam was spreading
		
00:54:38 --> 00:54:41
			even more because of the Mongol presence, surprisingly.
		
00:54:42 --> 00:54:44
			Because they're putting them in positions of power.
		
00:54:44 --> 00:54:46
			Right? So even though they're suppressing them on
		
00:54:46 --> 00:54:48
			one side, they're also forcibly
		
00:54:49 --> 00:54:51
			making them migrate, and they're also giving them
		
00:54:51 --> 00:54:52
			positions of authority.
		
00:54:53 --> 00:54:55
			When the Ming dynasty comes,
		
00:54:55 --> 00:54:58
			the Ming dynasty's founder, I just mentioned his
		
00:54:58 --> 00:55:00
			name, I'll try not to pronounce it again
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:02
			for the second time. Alright. So he did
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:04
			something very nice.
		
00:55:04 --> 00:55:05
			He wrote
		
00:55:05 --> 00:55:06
			a praise of Islam.
		
00:55:07 --> 00:55:08
			Because he saw that, you know, the Muslims
		
00:55:08 --> 00:55:11
			are cooperating, we work together and everything. So
		
00:55:11 --> 00:55:14
			he wrote what's called the 100 word eulogy.
		
00:55:14 --> 00:55:15
			This is a
		
00:55:15 --> 00:55:17
			100 character praise of Islam
		
00:55:17 --> 00:55:19
			and praise of the Prophet Muhammad
		
00:55:20 --> 00:55:21
			in Chinese officially
		
00:55:22 --> 00:55:22
			written by
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:25
			the the Empire at the time. So it
		
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			started out very good in the Ming dynasty.
		
00:55:28 --> 00:55:30
			Relations were good with Muslims, things were going
		
00:55:30 --> 00:55:31
			well.
		
00:55:31 --> 00:55:34
			The Yongle Emperor hired a very famous
		
00:55:34 --> 00:55:37
			admiral, his name was Zheng He or Zheng
		
00:55:37 --> 00:55:39
			He, not sure exactly how you pronounce it.
		
00:55:40 --> 00:55:41
			He was a Muslim, a sailor.
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:45
			He led 7 expeditions through the Indian Ocean
		
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			from 1405
		
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			to 1433,
		
00:55:48 --> 00:55:51
			very famous explorer as well. So things were
		
00:55:51 --> 00:55:52
			going well,
		
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			but the only problem during this time, you
		
00:55:55 --> 00:55:56
			can see it as a problem or you
		
00:55:56 --> 00:55:58
			can see it as something good.
		
00:55:58 --> 00:56:01
			During this this region under the Ming dynasty,
		
00:56:01 --> 00:56:04
			they took an isolationist policy, perhaps because of
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:06
			what happened with the Mongols.
		
00:56:06 --> 00:56:07
			So they're isolated
		
00:56:07 --> 00:56:10
			internally and the Muslims are isolated as well.
		
00:56:10 --> 00:56:12
			So all those Muslims that were brought into
		
00:56:12 --> 00:56:13
			China,
		
00:56:13 --> 00:56:14
			now they're cut off from the rest of
		
00:56:14 --> 00:56:17
			the Muslim world. So what ends up happening?
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:19
			They start to assimilate
		
00:56:20 --> 00:56:23
			and adopt Chinese culture. So that's when they
		
00:56:23 --> 00:56:25
			start to start speaking Chinese dialects. Up until
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:26
			this point,
		
00:56:26 --> 00:56:30
			the Muslims were retaining their original culture. They
		
00:56:30 --> 00:56:32
			were living independently but they were dressing differently,
		
00:56:32 --> 00:56:34
			they were speaking differently, they were eating their
		
00:56:34 --> 00:56:37
			own food, their masjids were looking like the
		
00:56:37 --> 00:56:40
			masjids of Central Asia or Arabia or Damascus
		
00:56:41 --> 00:56:42
			or wherever it was.
		
00:56:42 --> 00:56:45
			During this region, because they were cut off
		
00:56:45 --> 00:56:46
			from the Muslim world,
		
00:56:47 --> 00:56:49
			they start to take more Chinese names instead
		
00:56:49 --> 00:56:51
			of the Arabic names that I was mentioning
		
00:56:51 --> 00:56:53
			before. They start to adopt the culture of
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:54
			the Chinese.
		
00:56:54 --> 00:56:57
			They start to integrate the architecture of the
		
00:56:57 --> 00:56:58
			Chinese into their masjids.
		
00:56:58 --> 00:57:01
			Their dress and their their style of clothing
		
00:57:01 --> 00:57:03
			changes. They start to wear the pigtail. They
		
00:57:03 --> 00:57:05
			start to grow out the long mustaches just
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:06
			like the Chinese.
		
00:57:06 --> 00:57:09
			They still in the masjid, they put on
		
00:57:09 --> 00:57:10
			the turban, they put on the kufi, you
		
00:57:10 --> 00:57:12
			know, the topi, the cap and everything, but
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:14
			that's only in the masjid. As soon as
		
00:57:14 --> 00:57:16
			they walk out, they go start looking back
		
00:57:16 --> 00:57:18
			exactly like the Chinese and they try to
		
00:57:18 --> 00:57:20
			blend in and fit in.
		
00:57:20 --> 00:57:21
			They start to
		
00:57:22 --> 00:57:25
			restrict certain practices because they don't want to
		
00:57:25 --> 00:57:27
			cause any problems because they saw the persecution
		
00:57:27 --> 00:57:29
			of the Mongols. So they don't want to
		
00:57:29 --> 00:57:31
			do anything to mess with the Ming dynasty.
		
00:57:31 --> 00:57:32
			They want to keep good,
		
00:57:33 --> 00:57:33
			relationships,
		
00:57:34 --> 00:57:36
			insha'Allah with them.
		
00:57:37 --> 00:57:37
			So,
		
00:57:39 --> 00:57:40
			this is something that's
		
00:57:43 --> 00:57:45
			battery? No, it's back. Okay. So this is
		
00:57:45 --> 00:57:47
			something that some people view as a good
		
00:57:47 --> 00:57:48
			thing.
		
00:57:48 --> 00:57:49
			Should we
		
00:57:49 --> 00:57:52
			try to make Muslims as indigenous as possible
		
00:57:52 --> 00:57:55
			and assimilate into the society? Or should we
		
00:57:55 --> 00:57:58
			maintain a certain level of, you know, cultural
		
00:57:58 --> 00:57:59
			independence
		
00:57:59 --> 00:58:01
			so that we can maintain our own individual
		
00:58:01 --> 00:58:02
			identity?
		
00:58:02 --> 00:58:05
			That's a very loaded question. And if we
		
00:58:05 --> 00:58:07
			have time like in a more detailed history
		
00:58:07 --> 00:58:08
			class,
		
00:58:08 --> 00:58:11
			we actually reflect upon lessons like this. So
		
00:58:11 --> 00:58:12
			I was told to put a little plug
		
00:58:12 --> 00:58:15
			in for my school. So, we have, California
		
00:58:16 --> 00:58:17
			Islamic University,
		
00:58:17 --> 00:58:20
			enrollment is open for the next quarter. We're
		
00:58:20 --> 00:58:22
			actually teaching a class, a 10 week class
		
00:58:22 --> 00:58:24
			on the history of Islam all the way
		
00:58:24 --> 00:58:26
			from the beginning of the Umayyads to the
		
00:58:26 --> 00:58:27
			fall or the sack of Baghdad,
		
00:58:28 --> 00:58:30
			by the Mongols. So we're gonna be covering
		
00:58:30 --> 00:58:31
			a lot of this history and we get
		
00:58:31 --> 00:58:33
			it's a 30 hour class, so so we
		
00:58:33 --> 00:58:36
			get a lot more time to reflect upon
		
00:58:36 --> 00:58:36
			lessons
		
00:58:37 --> 00:58:38
			and wisdom and things that, you know, we
		
00:58:38 --> 00:58:40
			can get out of that. So if you're
		
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			So,
		
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			the Muslims at this period now, they start
		
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			to assimilate,
		
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			and sometimes they assimilate a little bit too
		
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			much. Right? So for example,
		
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			you find that some Muslim officials who are
		
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			employed by the government, they start to do
		
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			the
		
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			3 time forehead
		
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			bow prostration to the picture of the Emperor.
		
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			So you had to go and prostrate your
		
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			head 3 times in front of a picture
		
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			or something like that. So they do things
		
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			like that. And this is a practice that
		
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			has continued among some of the Chinese Muslims
		
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			at the time. And another thing that they
		
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			did was, they started
		
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			to try to show the Chinese that we're
		
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			we're kind of just like you. Islam is
		
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			directly in line with the teachings of Confucius.
		
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			So that becomes more acceptable and more, you
		
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			know,
		
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			palatable for them. So these are some of
		
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			the things that happened during the Ming dynasty.
		
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			Then we move to the Qing dynasty
		
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			Qing Qing dynasty. Thank you. Alright. So 1644
		
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			to 1911.
		
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			Alright. So,
		
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			basically these people were from the Manchu, they
		
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			were a minority, and they took power, and
		
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			they were ruling.
		
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			This period was not good for Muslims at
		
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			all. They also prohibited Muslims from slaughtering their
		
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			animals, they prohibited them from building masjids, they
		
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			prohibited them from going and performing the hajj,
		
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			they were not allowed to go on the
		
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			hajj even.
		
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			And what happens here now is that they
		
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			started even putting
		
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			like, tablets inside the the masjid outside. They
		
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			said the Emperor may the Emperor live forever,
		
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			like outside the masjid. So they started exerting
		
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			more and more control
		
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			over the masjids, over the Muslims lifestyle in
		
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			different regions like Yunnan, Ningbo and different places.
		
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			So what happens is because of this repression,
		
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			now all of this plays into what's happening
		
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			today.
		
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			Because of this repression,
		
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			there were 5
		
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			*
		
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			rebellions that took place from the Muslims.
		
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			And these are primarily the Hui rebellions taking
		
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			place. So there's the Panthai rebellion in Yunnan,
		
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			which is South China,
		
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			right there. Okay? This was a major rebellion
		
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			from 1855
		
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			to 1873.
		
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			What did the Chinese do or what did
		
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			this empire do in response?
		
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			The
		
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			Qing.
		
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			The Qing dynasty.
		
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			So what did the Qing dynasty do? They
		
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			responded with the policy that they called the
		
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			washing of the Muslims policy.
		
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			Just exterminate them and wipe them out. So
		
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			in the Panthi rebellion in Yunnan, 2,000,000 Muslims
		
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			were slaughtered.
		
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			Then there was a Dungen revolt in
		
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			Xinjiang,
		
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			in Shaanxi and Gansu in 18/62
		
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			to 18/77.
		
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			This was one of them was led by
		
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			a man by the name of Yaqub Beg,
		
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			he's a very famous Muslim.
		
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			They slaughtered
		
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			millions of Muslims across the board, they cut
		
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			off his head, and you remember that masjid
		
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			that I showed you, the largest one that's
		
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			attended? They put his head up on the
		
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			masjid
		
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			to show everyone
		
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			this is what's gonna happen
		
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			if anyone even tries to resist any of
		
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			our policies that's happening. So this has been
		
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			going on for a very long time. They
		
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			engage in genocide
		
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			at a mass level.
		
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			Right? And what's really interesting is
		
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			that some of the Muslims,
		
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			they defected to the other side and they
		
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			joined the Qing dynasty in actually persecuting
		
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			their own Muslim brothers and sisters.
		
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			Right? So why did they do this? There's
		
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			a lot of reasons why they did it.
		
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			Obviously, there's money, there's power, they're gonna get
		
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			rewarded,
		
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			but also part of the reason was is
		
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			that a lot the Chinese Muslims, a lot
		
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			of them, they belong to different groups in
		
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			terms of the way they view their religion.
		
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			And they're part of the Nakshbandiya
		
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			Sufi orders.
		
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			And within those orders, there were two main
		
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			ones at the time. 1 is called the
		
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			kafiyyah and one is called the jahriyah.
		
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			Originally,
		
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			the kafiyyah are people who do silent zikr.
		
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			SubhanAllah, SubhanAllah, quietly.
		
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			The jahariyah do it out loud. Obviously, that's
		
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			not why they're killing each other. Right? I'm
		
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			sure it's a lot more
		
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			involved in that, but it ends up becoming
		
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			identity politics for them. So what ends up
		
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			happening is, the people who belong to the
		
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			kafiyyah group, they actually said, well most of
		
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			these people who rebelled, they're all from the
		
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			jahriyah group, so we're gonna go ahead and
		
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			join the army and, you know, we're gonna
		
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			get our reward and we might as well,
		
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			you know, get rid of these people which
		
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			we disagree with anyways and we get in
		
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			positions of power. So this was where Muslims
		
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			started dividing amongst each other. Right? So some
		
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			of them are supporting the government
		
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			against the rebels,
		
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			and the rebels are trying to, you know,
		
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			get get their freedom because they're being persecuted.
		
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			So
		
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			the situation got really bad, you cannot publicly
		
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			even talk about Islam at the time.
		
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			Here is a letter,
		
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			that was sent.
		
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			There was a report that was sent to
		
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			the emperor in the year 17/83.
		
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			There was a governor,
		
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			of the province of Huangshai.
		
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			He says that I have the honor respectfully
		
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			to inform your majesty
		
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			that an adventurer named Han Foyun
		
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			of the province of Huangshai
		
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			has been arrested on a charge of vagrancy.
		
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			So they arrested some Chinese Muslim guy. So
		
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			this adventurer, when interrogated as to his occupation,
		
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			confessed that for the last 10 years he's
		
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			been travelling through different provinces of the empire
		
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			in order to obtain information about his religion.
		
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			So he said, Yeah, I'm a student of
		
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			knowledge.
		
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			I'm going around, I'm studying the religion. K?
		
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			He said, In one of his boxes,
		
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			we found 30 books.
		
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			Some of them he wrote by himself, his
		
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			own notebooks,
		
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			and some of them were in a language
		
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			that nobody understands.
		
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			K, probably Arabic.
		
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			And then he says, these books praise
		
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			in an extravagant and ridiculous
		
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			manner a western king called Muhammad.
		
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			The above mentioned
		
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			pho yun, when put to torture,
		
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			finally confessed
		
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			that the real object of his journey was
		
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			to propagate the false religion taught in these
		
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			books and that he remained in the province
		
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			of Shenzi for a longer time than anywhere
		
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			else.
		
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			So he's not allowed to talk about Islam
		
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			propagate anywhere, even in these regions.
		
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			And then he says, I've examined these books
		
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			myself,
		
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			some are written in a foreign language, I'm
		
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			not able to understand them. The others that
		
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			are written in Chinese are very bad. I
		
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			may add even ridiculous
		
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			because there's exaggerated
		
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			praise for people
		
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			who don't deserve that praise
		
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			because I've never even heard of them.
		
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			Not a very eloquent argument to the emperor
		
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			anyways, but so so it continued. So basically
		
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			you're not even allowed to talk about Islam,
		
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			you're not in these regions, they're being arrested,
		
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			things like that.
		
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			So all of this comes into play in
		
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			18/84,
		
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			very important date.
		
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			What happens at the Qing dynasty,
		
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			they establish
		
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			a place or a region that's called Xinjiang,
		
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			which is here.
		
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			Xinjiang means the new frontier.
		
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			K? This was not called this before. This
		
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			is the region where the persecution is taking
		
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			place. And they said this is a province
		
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			of China. It's part of the empire. It
		
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			used to be called,
		
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			Zumbu or the Zungar region or Hui Hui
		
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			Zheng,
		
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			right, which means Muslim land. So they renamed
		
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			it and they said, no. This is our
		
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			land and we're gonna take it. So all
		
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			of this is gonna play a role here.
		
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			So we move on to the modern era.
		
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			The Republic of China is established in 1911.
		
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			There's a second Sino Japanese war. The Japanese
		
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			come in, start destroying
		
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			everything. They destroyed 220
		
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			mosques. They killed so many Muslims and massacred
		
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			them. By 1941,
		
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			there was a incident called the * of
		
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			Nanking, if you've heard about that.
		
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			This was in western China. It was basically
		
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			the mosque were flowing with dead bodies. And
		
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			what they did was this isn't see, I'm
		
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			trying to show you that this is not
		
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			like
		
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			a American,
		
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			European unique thing. The Japanese came and they
		
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			were taking pork fat and they were smearing
		
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			pork fat onto the masjids.
		
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			Right? So the way that Muslims are being
		
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			persecuted, it's the same around different parts of
		
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			the world. It's not like a white man's
		
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			thing or black man's thing or something.
		
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			People come up with the same ideas. They
		
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			forced the Muslim girls to become * slaves,
		
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			they destroyed the cemeteries of the Muslims in
		
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			which they were buried, and so many other
		
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			atrocities took place. It's been very very difficult
		
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			for the Muslims of this era. Then the
		
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			People's Republic of China is established.
		
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			The cultural revolution,
		
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			the socialist communist revolution
		
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			happened from 1966
		
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			to 1976.
		
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			What you have is all the religions are
		
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			being persecuted.
		
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			Masjids are being destroyed, they're being defaced, they're
		
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			being shut down, Qurans are being burnt, Qurans
		
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			are being destroyed, all these Red Guard soldiers
		
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			are coming in and destroying everything. The government
		
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			accuses Muslims and others of being anti socialist.
		
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			So your practice of Islam
		
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			is anti
		
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			okay. Your practice it needs a break sometimes,
		
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			you know, 100.
		
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			So your practice of Islam is antisocialist.
		
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			It's against our beliefs,
		
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			so we need
		
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			to prevent this from manifesting itself. So
		
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			the State
		
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			Administration of Religious Affairs today officially says there's
		
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			21,000,000 Muslims in China, There's 36,000
		
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			mosques. There's 45,000
		
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			Imams,
		
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			which is strange for me. So 45,000
		
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			Imams and 36,000
		
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			mosques. If only America had that problem. Right?
		
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			So and and there's 10 Islamic schools.
		
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			Something's weird about that number. Okay. So 36,000
		
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			mosque, 45,000
		
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			imams, and 10 Islamic schools in China today.
		
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			That's that's the official
		
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			statistics.
		
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			Most of the Muslims
		
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			live
		
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			in
		
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			the Xinjiang region, Gansu, and Ningxia,
		
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			Ningxia province. K? There's large populations of Muslims
		
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			living in the south in Yunnan
		
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			and in Henan in Central China as well.
		
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			K? So
		
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			there in China, you have to understand things
		
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			are split
		
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			along ethnic lines.
		
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			So the majority
		
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			of Chinese are called Han. The Han make
		
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			up 90%
		
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			of the Chinese population.
		
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			There are 55 officially
		
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			recognized
		
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			minority
		
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			peoples who live in China,
		
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			and 10 out of the 55
		
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			are Muslim. K? They're mainstream Sunni Muslim. The
		
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			Hui
		
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			constitute 9,800,000
		
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			according to the official,
		
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			census.
		
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			The Uighur
		
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			are 8,400,000.
		
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			So almost 5050 split.
		
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			The Uighur are the ones who are living
		
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			in the Xinjiang region, the northwest the ones
		
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			who are being persecuted, and then the third
		
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			is Kazakh at 1,250,000.
		
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			So
		
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			what's happening is that Islam is suppressed in
		
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			China for a lot of the Muslims,
		
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			but the people who come from the background
		
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			of
		
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			the
		
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			Uighur,
		
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			from the Xinjiang region specifically,
		
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			those are the ones who are going to
		
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			be persecuted the most. And the reason why
		
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			is, because this is known as the Xinjiang
		
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			Uyghur Autonomous Region,
		
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			but according to many of them, they call
		
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			it East East Turkestan.
		
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			They don't consider themselves a lot of them
		
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			don't consider themselves to be Chinese. They don't
		
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			wanna be under the Chinese empire or the
		
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			Chinese, you know, country of China in the
		
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			first place. So what happened was that China
		
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			has been trying to get rid of these
		
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			Muslims for a very long time, and they
		
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			treat Muslims who are from the nationality of
		
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			Hui
		
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			different from the Uyghurs,
		
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			because they're different people and they're given different
		
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			status and a lot of this has to
		
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			do with ethnicity.
		
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			So
		
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			there is a massive state sponsored
		
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			migration
		
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			of Han Chinese from the 19 fifties to
		
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			19 seventies
		
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			into the Xinjiang province in order to dilute
		
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			the population
		
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			of the Uighur Muslims that are living there
		
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			so that they don't have so much control,
		
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			they don't have so much power. So what's
		
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			going on in China?
		
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			For many Muslims
		
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			who as but particularly for the Uighurs. Ramadan
		
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			comes, you're forced to break your fast. Here's
		
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			some food, the state has given you a
		
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			gift of a free lunch on the state,
		
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			and you have to eat it. And if
		
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			you don't eat it, you will be taken
		
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			to jail. And I'm gonna tell you what
		
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			the jail is. You cannot name your children
		
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			Muslim names like Muhammad. You cannot even name
		
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			your child Muhammad. It's a crime. Not for
		
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			Huiyh,
		
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			but for the Uighur Muslims. There's 2 different
		
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			standards being applied to the 2 different types
		
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			of Muslims. You cannot grow a long beard,
		
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			you could be potentially arrested for that. If
		
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			you wear a veil or hijab or niqab,
		
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			you can be arrested. If you're wearing your
		
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			long robe clothes,
		
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			you can also be arrested.
		
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			All vehicle owners among the Uighurs, they have
		
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			to install a GPS into their vehicle so
		
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			that they can be tracked. You have to
		
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			have a GPS in your vehicle.
		
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			There is facial recognition cameras all around the
		
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			entire area, so they know exactly who's going
		
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			in and out, and they can see exact
		
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			this is high-tech persecution.
		
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			K? Way more high-tech than we're seeing in
		
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			any other parts of the world.
		
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			Under doors is a QR code. You guys
		
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			know what a QR code is? That little
		
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			thing you scan? So there's QR code on
		
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			the door of every single house if you're
		
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			a Uighur.
		
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			What is that for? If the police wanna
		
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			do a check, they're gonna scan the QR
		
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			code and they're gonna see the pictures of
		
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			everyone who's supposed to be living in this
		
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			house.
		
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			If there's someone missing or if there's someone
		
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			additionally being hosted in there, you're in big
		
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			trouble, you're gonna be taken. So what's happened
		
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			now
		
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			is that in 2018,
		
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			the United Nations has released data, and according
		
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			to American
		
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			government as well, say, 1,000,000
		
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			Uighurs
		
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			have been detained
		
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			into these quote unquote reeducation
		
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			camps.
		
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			These are not really reeducation camps. What they
		
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			are is they're either internment camps or they're
		
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			concentration camps.
		
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			United Nations is saying that this is very
		
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			we haven't seen anything like this at this
		
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			level
		
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			since the time of the Nazis.
		
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			K. That's how bad it's actually gotten. And
		
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			what the Chinese government is generally doing, in
		
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			this region especially,
		
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			is they are taking these international fears of
		
01:13:24 --> 01:13:26
			terrorism and ISIS and Daish and all of
		
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			that stuff, And they're saying, you know what?
		
01:13:29 --> 01:13:30
			They might be in this region too, so
		
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			we have to crack down.
		
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			We put 1,000,000 people in detention. Many of
		
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			them are dying in the camps, when they
		
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			get released they end up dying, their family
		
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			doesn't even know that they're missing.
		
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			And what are they doing? Reporters are banned.
		
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			No reporters are allowed to see what is
		
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			actually going on. So there are people who
		
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			are actually capturing, trying to capture satellite images,
		
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			and there was 1,
		
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			young university student
		
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			who actually broke the story on this. He
		
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			actually traced
		
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			the bids that were taking place by the
		
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			Chinese government of what type of structures they
		
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			were gonna be building, and he back traced
		
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			based upon the bids and the materials that
		
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			they were doing and what type of construction
		
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			was gonna happen, he could figure out what
		
01:14:11 --> 01:14:12
			is in these detention
		
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			facilities. And then it was verified and confirmed
		
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			later on. So very very interesting,
		
01:14:17 --> 01:14:20
			but very sad story. So what's happening? Once
		
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			they take them in prison,
		
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			they make them recite political propaganda.
		
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			I don't know what it is, you know,
		
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			praise be to China or something like that,
		
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			and they have to renounce their Islam.
		
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			They're
		
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			convinced to renounce their Islam, they're being tortured,
		
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			but some have died, and they have to
		
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			come out and they want to brainwash them
		
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			and program them into being something completely different.
		
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			This is what Uyghur justhurs look like, militaries
		
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			there. That masjid that I showed you, this
		
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			is the population as well, the Uyghur population
		
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			living over there. Now what's happening is, you
		
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			have massive influx of Hui Muslims coming into
		
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			the Xinjiang province for the last decades.
		
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			And unfortunately, because you have you have a
		
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			500%
		
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			increase
		
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			in the number of Hui Muslims
		
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			versus a 1%
		
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			increase
		
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			in the number of,
		
01:15:12 --> 01:15:13
			Uighur Muslims.
		
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			Sometimes even tension comes in between
		
01:15:17 --> 01:15:19
			the different groups. Right? Because one of them
		
01:15:19 --> 01:15:21
			is gonna be serving in the state, one
		
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			of them is gonna have access to positions,
		
01:15:23 --> 01:15:24
			one of them is gonna have access to
		
01:15:24 --> 01:15:26
			wealth, and the other ones are gonna be
		
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			persecuted as minorities.
		
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			This is only one region, even in Tibet
		
01:15:31 --> 01:15:32
			there's a lot of persecution
		
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			happening between
		
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			the Tibetans and between the Muslims as well.
		
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			I'll leave that for another day, but it's
		
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			very important for us to understand this history
		
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			and also know the politics of what's taking
		
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			place today Insha'Allah. So I'll open it up
		
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			to questions Insha'Allah.
		
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			We decided to go ahead and just make
		
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			a single file line. It's gonna be a
		
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			lot easier. Are you gonna explain it, insha'Allah?
		
01:15:54 --> 01:15:55
			Yes. Assalamu alaikum, peace
		
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			be upon you all. Thank you so much,
		
01:15:57 --> 01:15:59
			Sheikh Mustafa. I really appreciate it. So at
		
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			this time, it's,
		
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			of course. Thank you so much.
		
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			It takes a lot of work, all the
		
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			research and, right?
		
01:16:07 --> 01:16:09
			So we really appreciate that. Thank you so
		
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			much. Of that. So what we're gonna do
		
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			at this time is we have a we're
		
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			gonna have a mic set up in the
		
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			back. If you have questions, I would encourage
		
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			you all to start forming a line here
		
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			to ask a question. I would ask you
		
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			to please keep your questions under 10 seconds
		
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			because if it's more than 10 seconds, then
		
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			you should be sitting over here conducting the
		
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			presentation. So just out of courtesy and respect,
		
01:16:26 --> 01:16:27
			if we can have everybody stand there, number
		
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			1, that'll be great for the questions. The
		
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			mic will be coming soon.
		
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			Number 2,
		
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			please make sure the questions are relevant to
		
01:16:34 --> 01:16:37
			the topic at hand. Right? If there are
		
01:16:37 --> 01:16:39
			questions outside of this topic, I'll ask you
		
01:16:39 --> 01:16:40
			to full check most of it to the
		
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			side to ask those questions. But just out
		
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			of courtesy to everyone, we make sure we'll
		
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			try to, do our best to ask questions
		
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			relevant to the topic that we're covering today.
		
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			Number 3, I've got word from the kitchen
		
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			that, we still have food left, so what
		
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			we're gonna do is a little special for
		
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			everyone. You guys ready?
		
01:16:56 --> 01:16:58
			So same meal, everything, except we're gonna drop
		
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			it down to $8 for those of you
		
01:17:00 --> 01:17:01
			if you haven't as of yet got a
		
01:17:01 --> 01:17:03
			chance yet. But if you've already supported the
		
01:17:03 --> 01:17:05
			masjid, you wanna support it again, you're most
		
01:17:05 --> 01:17:07
			welcome to do so. It just doesn't include
		
01:17:07 --> 01:17:09
			the drink. Right? But it's $8 for the
		
01:17:09 --> 01:17:10
			meal. So if you wanna do it, just
		
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			purchase your ticket then make your way to
		
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			the kitchen,
		
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			that'll be after the q and a is
		
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			over, inshallah. Okay? Is that okay with everyone?
		
01:17:16 --> 01:17:18
			And I wanna thank you all for taking
		
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			time out. Let's go ahead and, continue with
		
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			the question and answer session, Shalom. Alright. So
		
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			let me just begin by saying, first of
		
01:17:23 --> 01:17:25
			all, so I'm not an expert in the
		
01:17:25 --> 01:17:28
			history of, Islam in China, so
		
01:17:28 --> 01:17:30
			just go easy on your questions. Just letting
		
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			you know.
		
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			I have I have researched it.
		
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			The microphone needed a break again. So I've
		
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			researched it, but just keep in mind, if
		
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			it's something really, really detailed, I may not
		
01:17:39 --> 01:17:41
			be able to answer it. I'm hopefully, I
		
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			get to ask you questions because I think
		
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			you know probably more than me. Go ahead.
		
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			My name is Ali
		
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			Taixiang Wang.
		
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			Wang is a very common Chinese name.
		
01:17:58 --> 01:18:00
			You look at me, you might get a
		
01:18:00 --> 01:18:02
			first impression I'm a regular Chinese.
		
01:18:03 --> 01:18:04
			But
		
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			if you get more detail about me, and
		
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			then you I'll share with you,
		
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			I'm not a not a 80% population
		
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			named the Han tribe. I'm Hui.
		
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			And I'm Hui in a sense, not from
		
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			Northwest China, Xinjiang,
		
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			but it is the from the
		
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			Central East Coast,
		
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			traditional Muslim family,
		
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			which which is a very, very minority
		
01:18:32 --> 01:18:34
			in in the in in in the Chinese
		
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			heartland.
		
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			This kind of topic, it attract me from
		
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			Glendale.
		
01:18:43 --> 01:18:45
			I'm very glad No. No. Jamal. I want
		
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			Jamal. I want Jamal. Jamal. Let him. I
		
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			wanna say something real quick. Yeah, please. So
		
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			it's a continuation
		
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			of the today's beautiful lecturing. I enjoyed my
		
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			very much.
		
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			Since
		
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			1978,
		
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			Greater Los Angeles Chinese Muslim community,
		
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			not all, but let's say 5%,
		
01:19:06 --> 01:19:07
			they formed a association
		
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			registered with the federal government and the state
		
01:19:11 --> 01:19:13
			government as a nonprofit organization.
		
01:19:14 --> 01:19:15
			And the
		
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			our activity up and down, the peak time,
		
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			those on the mailing list kinda amount to
		
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			80 families. Now, probably a little bit less,
		
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			but
		
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			those having interest to know more about the
		
01:19:28 --> 01:19:30
			the the the the the Muslim
		
01:19:31 --> 01:19:33
			Muslim in China historically
		
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			as l as well as nowaday,
		
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			I especially, they're nowaday, they are evidence,
		
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			people like me and even those coming fresh
		
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			out of China in the last 30 years.
		
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			We have a gathering
		
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			on the 1st Sunday of every month
		
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			at the Las Tuna's Masjid in Saint Gabriel.
		
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			Hours run between 2 PM till 5 PM.
		
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			No appointment necessary.
		
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			If you have interest to know us
		
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			and any question to ask,
		
01:20:07 --> 01:20:09
			come to see us. We got a plenty
		
01:20:09 --> 01:20:12
			of brother Caesar to entertain you. Hamdurella.
		
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			Alright?
		
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			And I personally
		
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			because
		
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			by nature
		
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			and,
		
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			you know you know, and I've grown up
		
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			by interest
		
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			from my parents.
		
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			You know, I got to know a lot
		
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			about their hometown in Central East Valley of
		
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			China.
		
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			And I personally, in the last 10 years,
		
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			we turned there to visit more than twice.
		
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			It was so moving, and I rode the
		
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			bus to the downtown terminal. I came out
		
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			came down.
		
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			I broke into tears.
		
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			So make the story short,
		
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			if you want to know about more,
		
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			we have a plenty of things to entertain
		
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			you free of charge, and you'll be very,
		
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			very happy. Thank you very much. Alright. Thanks
		
01:20:57 --> 01:20:58
			a lot. Thank you.
		
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			Again,
		
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			remember my name,
		
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			Ali Wong,
		
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			w a n g. Thank you. Thank you.
		
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			And thank you.
		
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			So I actually had the pleasure
		
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			to live with your son for 6 months
		
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			in Egypt because he was my roommate. So
		
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			I've learned a lot about,
		
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			China from him. Alhamdulillah.
		
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			So alhamdulillah.
		
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			Okay. So anybody want for questions? Most welcome
		
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			to come on up and ask your questions.
		
01:21:30 --> 01:21:32
			Yes, we will have to make you guys
		
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			come here and ask questions.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			You can tell me the question and I
		
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			can ask it on your behalf.
		
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			Yeah. I can't pronounce that.
		
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			If
		
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			you can, it'd be great. I don't wanna
		
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			butcher the name.
		
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			That was my way to get you.
		
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			Alright. Assalamu alaikum. Alright.
		
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			I just had some questions, a little bit
		
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			more questions on the on the we Muslims
		
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			and the Uighur Muslims. What was I know
		
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			you were talking about it, but why is
		
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			one being more persecuted than the other? Okay.
		
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			Because of their ethnicity. So the Hui Muslims
		
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			are seen as like native Chinese.
		
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			Right? So they are considered to be more
		
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			native. They're closer to the Chinese, whereas the
		
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			Uighur Muslims are actually Turks. They're not even
		
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			technically Chinese. They themselves are identifying as Turks.
		
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			So there's a lot of immigrant there's a
		
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			lot of, you know, movement immigration that has
		
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			happened, but nationality is such an important thing
		
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			in China. That's why they're being single out.
		
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			1, because of their nationality, and 2, because
		
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			they are calling for independence because they're all
		
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			the way on the border over there. So
		
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			they want to be independent from China. They
		
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			wanna be part they wanna be called East
		
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			Turkestan. They have their own flag. It's a
		
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			blue flag. It's got a crescent. It's got
		
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			a star. So all of that plays a
		
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			role into it as well. And and and
		
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			nationality is such a big thing among for
		
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			the Han, Han Chinese specifically. They even do
		
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			genetic tests to actually see who is,
		
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			you know, genetically going back to original Chinese
		
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			or coming from a different region. So the
		
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			Muslims, what's really interesting
		
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			is that the Muslims, most of the Hui
		
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			Muslims,
		
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			they show their genetic records to say, look,
		
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			we can prove
		
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			that we're more native Chinese to this land,
		
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			then we don't even have the blood coming
		
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			in from the Middle East or Central Asia
		
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			region.
		
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			So that's one of their ways that they
		
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			can show, like, credibility to You can say,
		
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			oh, well, you are just from the people
		
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			of Bukhara who came in here from that
		
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			history that we talked about. But actually, no.
		
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			A lot of them had actually
		
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			accepted and converted into Islam and have the
		
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			genetics to prove it as well.
		
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			You can.
		
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			Please. Hey, why don't you grab the microphone?
		
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			Okay. Or not.
		
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			The the 2nd largest group is a Hui,
		
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			people like me.
		
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			One good example I can think of is
		
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			a Muslim man,
		
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			it's it's the minority.
		
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			He married
		
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			a a Chinese girl.
		
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			Or
		
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			the father gave away the the daughter
		
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			to a a non Muslim man, but the
		
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			conditions that you you
		
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			got to convert into Islam.
		
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			And I bear a very common Chinese family
		
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			name, Wang. That means king.
		
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			It's a typical Han people,
		
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			but I'm Muslim.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			The
		
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			okay. Because of the intermarriage
		
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			in China over a 1000 years between
		
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			Muslim and the non Muslim,
		
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			they are really bolted down. So so
		
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			regarding the communist rule in the last
		
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			68 years,
		
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			probably the the the the communist government,
		
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			you know, they are concerned about the, you
		
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			know, you know, mostly against the
		
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			the communist government
		
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			is lesser came from
		
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			the way people like me.
		
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			But they are more concerned about the UGG
		
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			in Northwest China,
		
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			Xinjiang bordering, you know, you know, all the
		
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			Central Asia,
		
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			Russian Central Asia.
		
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			So that's that's the difference. Yeah. Thanks.
		
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			I'm there.
		
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			So I had a question. So,
		
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			you know, for people in the west and
		
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			even people, like, from South Asia, like you
		
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			and I, we look at people above the
		
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			Himalayas as sort of just being monolithic. They're
		
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			all sort of Chinese in a way. Right?
		
01:25:53 --> 01:25:55
			Recently I read a bit of the Muqaddama
		
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			by Ibn Khaldun
		
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			and he actually refers to Tibet.
		
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			Right? And it seems, I don't remember specifically,
		
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			but he he might also,
		
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			refer to what is now Xinjiang.
		
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			But, so there's a clear idea of distinction.
		
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			Kashkari. Yeah. Mentioned. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. So he
		
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			there's a sense of distinction
		
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			for things that are, like, beyond the Himalaya
		
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			the region beyond the Himalayas. Right? So,
		
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			why would it be that the Tibetans,
		
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			and the and the Wirs would not, like,
		
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			get along when they have a sense of
		
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			solidarity in that they're different ethnic groups and,
		
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			like, people who have different languages
		
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			and different religious practices against the sort of
		
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			Han majority or the
		
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			the Chinese majority? Okay. So it's not so
		
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			much the,
		
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			Tibetans and the Uyghurs that are not getting
		
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			along. It's the Tibetans and the Hui that
		
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			are not getting along. So the reason is
		
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			because the Tibetans are saying that they're being
		
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			persecuted by China,
		
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			and the Hui are actually being supported by
		
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			the government in those regions. So they're getting
		
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			access to power, they're getting access to wealth.
		
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			So when the Tibetans are protesting against the
		
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			Chinese government, they'll go and attack the Hui
		
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			because they're being backed by the Chinese government.
		
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			So that's their way of lashing out and
		
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			there happened to be Muslims who are living
		
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			there. So that's reason number 1. Reason number
		
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			2 is the clash of religions.
		
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			So just like you have, you know, the
		
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			Buddhist monks who are persecuting in Myanmar,
		
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			you know, the,
		
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			Burmese, you know, people over there, the Rohingya.
		
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			You find the same thing happening over there
		
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			as well. So you do have extremist groups
		
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			who are persecuting over their Muslims. So it's
		
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			it's not the Uyghurs, it's more the Huit,
		
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			because they're being backed by the Chinese versus
		
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			the Tibetans.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Cool.
		
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			Thank
		
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			you.
		
01:27:38 --> 01:27:39
			I I guess we we know that the
		
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			Uighur Muslims are being persecuted.
		
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			What do you suggest,
		
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			American Muslims or at least American
		
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			in this country be able to help them
		
01:27:48 --> 01:27:49
			in any way? What do you suggest in
		
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			terms
		
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			of politically how we can help them or
		
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			or in any type of
		
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			of is there any organization out there that
		
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			can help bring attention to the persecution of
		
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			Muslims in China?
		
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			So
		
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			what my general advice is is to the
		
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			organizations who are already
		
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			doing relief
		
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			work in different regions
		
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			is that we need to expand
		
01:28:15 --> 01:28:15
			our
		
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			mentality
		
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			to include
		
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			the persecuted Muslims living in China as well.
		
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			So this this is kind of like, what
		
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			ends up happening is we focus on a
		
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			lot of regions,
		
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			but we also overlook some regions. So I
		
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			think if instead of building a new organization
		
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			I'm sure there are other organizations out there,
		
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			but they're not that large or that established.
		
01:28:36 --> 01:28:37
			If those other regions can somehow
		
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			those other organizations,
		
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			like, I'm not gonna name them, but if
		
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			they can start
		
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			getting
		
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			their foot into those regions, start having more
		
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			appeals as well, like, they're having appeals for
		
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			all different places, I think that would be
		
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			the ideal. So what I what I would
		
01:28:52 --> 01:28:54
			recommend rather than just saying, well, let's just
		
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			give a few bucks here, a few bucks
		
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			there, and somehow get it. I think giving
		
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			nasiha or advice
		
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			and guidance to those large Muslim organizations,
		
01:29:03 --> 01:29:06
			or large relief organizations who are already doing
		
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			all this work in so many other places,
		
01:29:08 --> 01:29:10
			because they have the resources, because they have
		
01:29:10 --> 01:29:11
			the infrastructure,
		
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			ask them that they need to really expand,
		
01:29:15 --> 01:29:17
			if they're able to, into this region and
		
01:29:17 --> 01:29:18
			put some, you know, advice
		
01:29:19 --> 01:29:20
			to to get them to do that. And
		
01:29:20 --> 01:29:23
			once they do that, we can continue supporting
		
01:29:23 --> 01:29:25
			the same organizations that we're supporting, but they
		
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			can have an expanded reach into these regions.
		
01:29:27 --> 01:29:28
			I think that would be the best way
		
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			to go about it.
		
01:29:30 --> 01:29:33
			One more follow-up question. Is there any political
		
01:29:33 --> 01:29:34
			opportunities or political pressure
		
01:29:35 --> 01:29:36
			of any sort that you recommend?
		
01:29:37 --> 01:29:40
			Perhaps, like calling the your congressman
		
01:29:40 --> 01:29:42
			or reaching out to to,
		
01:29:43 --> 01:29:44
			the State Department
		
01:29:44 --> 01:29:47
			and talk about the Uighur Muslims and making
		
01:29:47 --> 01:29:49
			an issue of it in some way? So
		
01:29:49 --> 01:29:51
			the only one who's done that, or at
		
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			least a little while ago, was Marco Rubio.
		
01:29:53 --> 01:29:55
			He actually had a big panel on that,
		
01:29:55 --> 01:29:57
			and he was calling for it. So regardless
		
01:29:57 --> 01:29:59
			of what all his all his other policies
		
01:29:59 --> 01:30:01
			are and everything, I think that was a
		
01:30:01 --> 01:30:03
			good step and he actually brought some awareness,
		
01:30:04 --> 01:30:06
			to the American community. And because of America's
		
01:30:06 --> 01:30:08
			relations with China, it's a lot easier to
		
01:30:08 --> 01:30:10
			kind of team up with America on an
		
01:30:10 --> 01:30:12
			issue like this. Because they're also trying they
		
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			have their own political interests in the region,
		
01:30:15 --> 01:30:16
			so they they they don't wanna see this,
		
01:30:17 --> 01:30:19
			suppression happening either. So, yeah. I think,
		
01:30:20 --> 01:30:20
			I think
		
01:30:21 --> 01:30:23
			I don't know exactly who to call, but
		
01:30:23 --> 01:30:26
			I think getting involved politically for it and
		
01:30:26 --> 01:30:28
			also not just having the media report more
		
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			on it. So, when the New York Times
		
01:30:30 --> 01:30:32
			put out an article on it, when, the
		
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			Guardian put an article out on it, there
		
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			should be follow-up with these press agencies saying,
		
01:30:36 --> 01:30:38
			hey, we're very happy that you put this
		
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			out. We support you. We give you more
		
01:30:40 --> 01:30:42
			subscriptions. The more people who do that, the
		
01:30:42 --> 01:30:44
			more likely they are to actually continue,
		
01:30:45 --> 01:30:45
			releasing,
		
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			articles and writing things like this.
		
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			Could you put some light on current demographics
		
01:30:57 --> 01:30:58
			in Xinjiang province?
		
01:31:00 --> 01:31:02
			In terms of the people? Yeah. The Muslim
		
01:31:02 --> 01:31:03
			versus the migration
		
01:31:04 --> 01:31:05
			have,
		
01:31:06 --> 01:31:08
			have started like seventies. Right?
		
01:31:09 --> 01:31:10
			In Xinjiang? This migration.
		
01:31:10 --> 01:31:12
			Oh, yeah. Yeah. So in terms of the
		
01:31:12 --> 01:31:14
			numbers, I don't have the statistics on me.
		
01:31:14 --> 01:31:16
			So I can't I don't I don't recall
		
01:31:16 --> 01:31:17
			them off the top of my head.
		
01:31:18 --> 01:31:20
			I believe though,
		
01:31:20 --> 01:31:21
			the ratio
		
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			It was either the ratio of Han
		
01:31:25 --> 01:31:26
			to
		
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			Uighur or Hui to Uighur was 5050
		
01:31:30 --> 01:31:32
			in the Xinjiang region. I forgot which one,
		
01:31:32 --> 01:31:34
			to be honest with you. But that's all
		
01:31:34 --> 01:31:35
			I can recall off the top of my
		
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			head. Thank you.
		
01:31:42 --> 01:31:44
			I just need a bit of a clarification.
		
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			Before the prophet Mohammed
		
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			was called upon, peace be upon
		
01:31:50 --> 01:31:51
			him,
		
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			he was his the main reason he was
		
01:31:54 --> 01:31:56
			called upon was to because there was a
		
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			lot of confusion with a lot of different
		
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			beliefs.
		
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			Because, Islam
		
01:32:02 --> 01:32:05
			existed before he was called upon. Correct?
		
01:32:06 --> 01:32:09
			Yep. So the main reason the prophet Mohammed
		
01:32:09 --> 01:32:10
			was called upon
		
01:32:11 --> 01:32:11
			was
		
01:32:14 --> 01:32:17
			to spread word of Islam where? In other
		
01:32:17 --> 01:32:18
			places other than,
		
01:32:20 --> 01:32:21
			China?
		
01:32:22 --> 01:32:25
			I'm not not following the question. Okay. The
		
01:32:25 --> 01:32:27
			prophet Muhammad, he he was the last messenger
		
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			called upon
		
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			for what main reason?
		
01:32:32 --> 01:32:34
			What why was he the last prophet, is
		
01:32:34 --> 01:32:37
			you're saying? Yes. Ah, okay. So,
		
01:32:37 --> 01:32:39
			part of it is because the communication in
		
01:32:39 --> 01:32:42
			the world had developed to an extent where
		
01:32:42 --> 01:32:45
			one prophet is able to go and spread
		
01:32:45 --> 01:32:47
			the message around everywhere else. Other than that,
		
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			we are closest to the end of time.
		
01:32:49 --> 01:32:50
			So these are the two main reasons why
		
01:32:50 --> 01:32:53
			he was the last prophet. Okay. Thank you.
		
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			Yeah. I think you can tell him directly.
		
01:33:11 --> 01:33:12
			I think he can hear you inshallah.
		
01:33:13 --> 01:33:14
			You can you can replan.
		
01:33:15 --> 01:33:15
			Sure. I'll
		
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			Who became a Muslim?
		
01:33:20 --> 01:33:21
			No. His grandson.
		
01:33:22 --> 01:33:24
			His grand his grandson. Yeah. Not him.
		
01:33:25 --> 01:33:27
			I just do announcement for food. You have
		
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			a
		
01:33:29 --> 01:33:30
			question?
		
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			So someone like to go for the lecture.
		
01:33:35 --> 01:33:37
			I have a question. Does the Hui is
		
01:33:37 --> 01:33:38
			more like a Shihi, Sunni, or is this
		
01:33:38 --> 01:33:41
			more like ethnic city, tribe? And then that
		
01:33:41 --> 01:33:43
			was my first question. The second question, is
		
01:33:43 --> 01:33:45
			there any some sort of like, in terms
		
01:33:45 --> 01:33:47
			of politics, is there any more like Islamophobia
		
01:33:47 --> 01:33:49
			played into role about the prosecution of Hui
		
01:33:50 --> 01:33:50
			in China?
		
01:33:51 --> 01:33:53
			And then the third one, is there any
		
01:33:53 --> 01:33:55
			sort of sentiment the way the Middle East
		
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			is the Saudi and then Israel against the
		
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			Iran or the Xi? Is there some sort
		
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			of, like, those kind of conflict? I didn't
		
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			get fully the second and third question. I
		
01:34:03 --> 01:34:04
			got the first one.
		
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			The first one is about Hui Hui is
		
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			an ethnicity. It's not Sunni Shia. It's not
		
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			a group. It's not a, it's not a
		
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			sect. It's ethnicity. So And almost all of
		
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			them are Sunni. Almost all of them are
		
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			Sunni.
		
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			Is there an Islamophobia
		
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			element playing the role in the persecution of
		
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			Hui? Of the Hui? Oh, absolutely.
		
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			Absolutely. So just to give you an example,
		
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			like,
		
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			Ibrahim who is my was my roommate in
		
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			Egypt. I remember, you know, when we were
		
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			there, his wife was actually
		
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			coming, or I think Were you married at
		
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			the time or your wife was coming to
		
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			marry you? 1 of the 2. You were
		
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			married. Yeah. He was he was married, and
		
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			then I had to, you know, leave his
		
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			apartment because his wife took the place of
		
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			myself. So,
		
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			that was okay. But, I remember hearing that,
		
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			his wife who is Hway as well in
		
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			the region, she's going to university, and in
		
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			Ramadan,
		
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			they're forcing her if she wants to go
		
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			for her exams, they're forcing her to eat
		
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			before she can walk into the university. That
		
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			was her. Right? Or her brother? Her brother.
		
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			Her brother. Her brother. Right? So I was
		
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			just shocked. I'm like, you have to you're
		
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			forcibly forced to break your fast. So these
		
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			are not Uighurs.
		
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			These are Hwe Muslims. So Islamophobia is definitely
		
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			there. You're being forced to break your fast.
		
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			If you're living If you're in the government,
		
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			some of them get to fast, some of
		
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			them don't even get to fast in Ramadan.
		
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			You have to do certain rituals which are
		
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			totally against Islam. So, there is
		
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			suppression of all religions, many religions in China,
		
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			but specifically for Muslims, yes. There's absolutely Islamophobia
		
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			and suppression as well. So there's On one
		
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			side, it's a little bit better than the
		
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			the the communist era that I mentioned, the
		
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			Cultural Revolution. It's better than it was before,
		
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			but it's still not where it should be.
		
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			What was your third question?
		
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			Okay. Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Alright. I think that's,
		
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			Yes. You guys
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Ibrahim, you wanna just
		
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			pronounce it?
		
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			How to pronounce? How to pronounce Han.
		
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			Oh, I don't know. That's but when he's
		
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			saying
		
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			sorry. When he's saying Han, he he he's
		
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			referring to the majority ethnicity.
		
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			Yeah. Yeah. When
		
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			oh, so she's talking about Han.
		
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			K. He's gonna pronounce it for you. No.
		
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			What I'm saying what I'm saying is,
		
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			Yeah. Khan and Khan are not the same.
		
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			They're different. So he's saying Han, the people,
		
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			the Han people, had nothing to do with
		
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			the Khan. Khan is a different title that's
		
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			given to people, and Khan are the majority
		
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			Chinese population in China.
		
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			Oh, you're asking about how you pronounce Khan
		
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			in Chinese?
		
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			Yeah. We can we can do it on
		
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			a private level, Insha'Allah. He can
		
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			he can give you a a private demo,
		
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			inshallah.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			So
		
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			Alright. Inshallah.
		
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			You wanna conclude? Yeah. I'll make announcements.
		
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			Okay. Alright. I wanna thank you Oh, okay.
		
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			A little
		
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			louder. I wanna thank you all for taking
		
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			time out. I know most of you are
		
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			getting your way out. So what we're gonna
		
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			do is we have to stop it here.
		
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			Inshallah, at the end, you can you're most
		
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			welcome to talk to Sheikha Mustafa. Just as
		
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			a quick announcement, the kitchen is open. Food
		
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			is $8, so it's just a little small
		
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			special we have for everyone. Again, all the
		
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			proceeds are going back to the masjid to
		
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			take care of the expenses and hopefully invest
		
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			in more projects like this. May Allah bless
		
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			you all. If I can have everyone's assist,
		
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			if you can just maybe fold your chair
		
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			and the and the volunteers here, if you
		
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			guys can help us out, we're just gonna
		
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			fold the chairs and put them on the
		
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			racks. And again, the kitchen is open. May
		
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			Allah bless you all. Sheikh Mustafa is available
		
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			here. We have a blessed day. Thank you.