Mustafa Umar – From Islam to Atheism then Back to Islam
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Welcome back to the d show special guest,
Sheikh Mustafa. Assalamu alaikum. Peace be with you.
How are you?
Excellent. How are you? Now you are good.
You aren't always
in a position where you're at. You're actually
educating people, teaching people the purpose of life,
inviting people to have a relationship with the
one who created creation,
but you are actually
fighting against it as an atheist. But you
are Muslim first. So you are Muslim Yes.
Carrying Bukhadi,
the books of Bukhadi on your back. Yes.
And then you took a philosophy class
and my face. The story takes off from
there. Let's go back it up now. Let's
let's let's talk from the beginning a little
bit. Give us some highlights how it all
started. Yes, I mean I grew up in
a Muslim family, you can say, not very
practicing, a little bit more cultural than Muslim.
We kind of went for, you know, Friday
prayers.
Sometimes we fasted Ramadan, but that's pretty much
it. So didn't really have that many Islamic
teachings.
Went to Sunday school, didn't pay attention, didn't
really understand what was going on there. No
one was really interested in that. So I
kind of grew up that way. Islam was
just something like as part of a culture.
We didn't understand what was going on. And
then in my junior year of high school,
we took a trip to Makkah and we
went for the Umrah,
the minor pilgrimage.
And that was just seeing a different world
for me. That just changed things completely. So
there
I go into a bookstore and I'm seeing
the Kaaba. I'm seeing, you know, Makkah, the
people there, hearing the adhan, the call to
prayer on a regular basis. A lot of
emotions there. A lot of emotions there. It's
like just a different society. Never seen anything
like this in my life, you know, and
I've traveled a lot
and walk into a bookstore and they got
actually like, you know I see Islamic books
for the first time in my life. I
see translations of hadith, the statements of the
Prophet peace be upon him. I see translations
of the Quran and I was like you
know what I can investigate this. I can
you know learn more about this. So I
buy a translation of the Quran.
I buy a Sahih al Bukhari, you know,
a collection of sayings of the prophet peace
be upon him. 9 volumes
carry it back with me on the airplane.
I say, you know, I'm gonna try to
learn about this religion of mine. I'm gonna
gonna find out if it's the truth or
not.
So I come back. I start reading
and I start, you know, appreciating Islam. I
see I'm gonna find this out find out
on my own
what is Islam? What is this thing that
I was raised on supposedly? What is this
all supposed to mean?
And
I started becoming more interested. I say, you
know, this seems like it's the truth. I
started comparing what I know about Hinduism. I
said, you know,
I can't worship a statue, you know, something
like that. I heard a thing about Christianity.
I can't believe that, you know, like a
man is gonna be God. Judaism
that's I'm not even I don't have the
right blood in me you know so these
things don't work for me. I see Islam
is the thing that kind of makes sense
you know if we're going to believe in
God that's like the the religion which I
can consider
so I start getting more and more, you
know, learning about Islam on my own reading
the Quran, reading these books of hadith,
and
I start to have like an appreciation for
Islam. Did you have a teacher? Did you
have someone giving you some direction? So that
was the issue. So I did not have
a teacher And one of the reasons why
I didn't have a teacher is, you know,
everyone I had met, they seemed to be
very
more cultural than
Islamic or Muslim.
So I don't know who to go to
for for knowledge. I go to the mosque.
I hear the sermon. It seems like very
emotional. Person has a very thick accent. I'm
really not interested in this. I'm going to
figure this all out all on my own.
No direction? No direction. I'm going to read
the text. Whatever I think the text means,
doesn't matter what they're saying in the book.
That's what the way I'm going to take
it. How about from family? How much direction
did you get from papa and mama? See,
the thing is, you know, they may say
a few things here and there, but it's
all mixed with Islam and culture mixed. A
lot of culture. A lot of culture, and
I'm very I'm not into culture because for
me it's like, you know, if I don't
understand why this is happening, I don't wanna
follow something blindly. How was your basic understanding
of, let's say, the the pure monotheism, Islam?
The the tohid, the fundamental belief system. How
was that? You know,
I probably understood that there's one god. That
that was pretty clear. But anything beyond that
God's attributes and
you know, even even the idea of, you
know, belief in angels and things which are
unseen So the fundamental, the core was not
there? Not really there. Not really. Yeah. So
I'm reading these books and I'm I'm getting
interested.
I'm learning more and I'm thinking, hey, this
is,
this seems to make sense. I start, you
know, I started questioning a lot of things.
So I said, you know what? Let me
start praying because I I think we know
I know we should pray but it doesn't
make sense to pray in Arabic because I
don't even know what I'm saying, you know.
And even if I read what I'm saying
the translation, I tried doing Arabic and then
translating in English. I'm like, This is distracting
me. Let me just start praying in English.
So I just started praying in English. Seems
like it's not a bad idea. It seems
like a good idea. According to your logic.
Yeah. At least at least, you know, for
me, maybe it was a little bit arrogant
at the time but at least I I
understand what I'm saying. And all the people
around me, maybe my parents, my friends, family,
they're saying all these formulas
but they don't even know what they're saying.
Right? Many of them don't even bother to
read the translation. So I feel like, hey,
at least I'm connecting with God on on
a deeper level because I know what I'm
saying. So I'm doing this I'm praying in
English.
I'm kind of praying while I'm driving if
I'm getting late somewhere. Hey, it's better than
you know and God should accept for me.
At least I'm doing better than what I
was doing before. So I'm kind of you
know feeling good about this kind of having
some you know positive healthy pride in Islam.
Start discussing debating with my friends. Come on.
You guys got to believe in God. Look
at the Quran. This is you know this
is a miracle. Start getting very very happy
about you know being a Muslim
and
that's when you know I started you know
almost got to a point where I saw
some things within hadith that I was reading
and I got and I say you know
what some of these hadith seem just very
strange They don't seem to make sense to
me. They don't they don't seem to be
as, like, rational as I was seeing in
the Quran.
So I got to a point where I
came across a website called, like, the submitters
or something like that. They basically said we
don't need to accept these hadith. Hadith has
all this weird stuff going on. Just remove
this hadith, just go with the Quran only.
So I basically got into that movement or
that group intellectually
on online,
and I just said, you know, let's just
focus on the Quran. Some hadith are nice
but some are weird. I don't understand them
really. I'm just gonna stick to the Quran.
What happened was I go to college,
get accepted to UC Irvine,
decide to take a class on philosophy.
Walk into that class on philosophy and the
professor starts talking about, you know,
how people believe in so many strange things
today. You know, you guys grew up believing
in the tooth fairy. You grew up believing
in Santa
Claus. Your parents had tricked you about these
things. And I'm like, yeah. That's true, man.
My parents, you know, I remember the tooth
fairy. I was, you know, tricked into believing
in the Santa Claus for a while, Halloween,
all that stuff. And then he said, how
many of you still believe in that? Everyone's
like, come on. We don't believe in that.
And then he threw the bomb and he
goes, how many of you still believe in
God?
And that's where I was just like,
you know, do I raise my hand? Do
I not raise my hand? So is anybody
raising their hand at this moment? Nobody raises
their hand except one guy who is the
weird Christian missionary guy who like everyone hated.
He's just like seems like mentally deficient or
something like that, you know. So something's wrong
with this guy. So I raised my hand.
I'm like, okay. I do believe in God
and just me and him and no one
else in the class,
and I just that was just like a
moment for me. I'm like, am I like
this guy?
Am I the only one? Like what's The
pressure's on now. Really? The pressure's on. Sweating.
Really? I'm thinking
what what have I been raised on? You
know, I thought that everyone believes in God,
and I grew up believing like this, and
that just questioned my faith, and it just
it just it just changed my entire perception,
and everything just went downhill from there. I
became super skeptical,
and I got to a point from agnosticism
not knowing if there's God to basically sliding
down into atheism and saying, you know what?
God doesn't exist. All this religion is man
made. It's all, you know, it's it's all
just hodgepodge. Something of the past, we need
to get away from it. We got a,
a Muslim who left Islam,
and
this is a very sad situation. I'm sure
many have been affected by this. You actually
went through it. The story doesn't stop there.
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I don't see your heads off yet.
Not yet. Did anybody come come with a
machete looking for you? No. They did not.
Okay. Actually. Because,
now a lot of people, they try to
use this now that, okay,
you obviously
how did your family? Did they know now
that you had had, turned away from, you
know, I didn't tell I didn't tell them
openly, but I told them that, you know
what, I'm not interested in praying. I'm not
interested in going to the mosque. Don't even
ask me to go on Friday anymore. It's
obvious now. It's it's pretty obvious that this
this guy is far from the from the
religion. Yeah. Now what happens? Okay. That's the
moment. You go in
you're carrying buhadi, you know, the hadith on
your back, but I asked you how was,
really your core understanding was kind of very
weak, didn't have a bright teacher. Yeah. You
walk into this philosophy
class. You come in, you know, to a
gunfight with, you know, a pencil. Yeah. And
and what what after that? You left the
class really,
just disenfranchised.
You're Yep. Lost now. Lost. Your your your
faith is questioned, and everything's going out the
window? Yep. And then I started, you know,
then that that's when I kind of, you
know, got into a group of friends
where I probably wouldn't have considered them when
I was Muslim. So I started getting into
this group of friends that are telling me,
you know, let's go to nightclubs. Let's go
to raves.
Let's just party. Let's have fun. That seems
fun, It it seems fun at the time.
The venue opens up now. That's it.
Now, you know, the shackles are coming off
and you know when you're a freshman in
college, it's like you're just dying to get
out of, you know,
the confines of your home. Your parents have
always been kind of holding you back saying
it's for your own good.
Now now I'm in the dorms in college.
Now I have you know some level of
freedom even though my parents are trying to
you know spy on me from time to
time. Is this guy you know is he
crazy? Is he doing drugs? What's going on?
So I start having fun and I get
I get, or supposed fun, you know, and
I get into the wrong group, start going
to these clubs, start going to raves,
and kind of strange, you know, like I'm
not really believing but I have like these
I kind of sometimes I feel like, you
know, should I should I consider praying? Should
I not consider praying? There's still some doubts
going on. There's
doubts about not being Muslim as well,
like the way that there were doubts about
being Muslim. So I'm kind of going in
down this road and I get into street
racing with with the cars, basically.
Fast and Furious? Kind of like Fast and
Furious, basically. Inspired by all these movies, inspired
by what was going around in my area.
So I get with this group and we
start street racing and we just it's it's
a very dangerous thing. In retrospect, I tell
people
you don't realize what you're doing. You know,
one one mistake, you know, a pedestrian walking
down the street, you could just hit someone,
kill someone,
and you don't even feel it. It's like
a video game almost in front of you,
you know. So I start street racing,
and that's going on for a while
and one day I just get really upset
with my parents.
I get upset with,
just everything. I'm upset with life. I'm upset
with the world
and I lost a lot of money that
my parents had given me in the stock
market that day. It was a Friday.
The stock market crashes. I lose a ton
of money. I'm stressed out. I'm mad at
my parents.
I got my Did you say you're kind
of a spoiled rich kid? Kind of a
spoiled rich kid. That's just the reality. You
know, I'm driving a Lexus IS 300 the
same month that it came out. You know,
it was it was a big deal when
it came out. So that's pretty much what's
happening. So I'm really upset and I decide
I'm running away from home. I've I've had
it now. I need my absolute freedom. I
don't even wanna come home on the weekends
anymore. I'm out of here. So I get
my stuff. I have money in my bank
accounts, so my parents had given me. Everything's
ready ready to go. Jump in the car,
run away from home, never coming back again.
On my way, I'm driving from Orange County
down to San Diego. It's kind of a
windy road. All of a sudden, Nissan 300ZX
pulls up. Twin turbo tries to race me.
And I'm in a bad mood. I'm really
upset listening to rock music just you know,
fueling more anger and I decide, you know
what? That's it man. I'm gonna race this
guy. So we race and we're going really
really fast
and
my car spins out of control.
Literally, does a u-turn on the freeway
at a very very fast speed. We'll just
leave it at that.
And
4 car accident,
5 car accident, something like that.
I don't get injured. The car is totaled.
I walk out perfectly fine. People start telling
me that, you know what? God saved you
for a reason. I'm like, yeah, God. Whatever.
You know? So I started thinking about it
in the back of my mind and then
when the police came to me and said,
you know what? You're going to jail.
That's when I started just freaking out. All
my pleasures are gonna be gone. All my
enjoyment. All my fun. It's all gonna be
done. What do I do? So I start
thinking, you know what?
Maybe it's time to make some change in
my life. Maybe I need to take life
a little bit more seriously.
So my friends come back to me. It's
like, come on. Let's go. Let's just go
to the race, man. Just come back. Don't
worry. Don't let one car accident, you know,
get you down. We're gonna go back into
the same lifestyle that we had. You can
always count on those,
good friends. Right? Exactly.
Exactly. You know? So there's that that whispering
coming in. You know? They're trying to come
to my room and everything, and I just
decide, I don't wanna see you guys. I
just need to figure things out for myself.
What's going on? And that's when I decided,
you know what? After a while of struggling,
I said, you know what? There's no one
else to turn to. So when you have
no one else to turn to and you
don't even know what to do, that's when
I started praying and I said, you know
what God? I don't know if you exist.
I don't even know if I really believe
in you or not. But if you exist,
show me that you exist and show me
show me why I'm here. If there's a
purpose in life, show me that purpose. And
before I had asked that probably before but
I never put any effort into it. So
this time what was different is there's more
sincerity because I'm saying, and I'm gonna put
the effort in to find you. So I'm
gonna search, I don't know where to search,
I don't know what to do, but I'm
gonna put in my effort,
you send me something, you throw me a
little something so I can, you know, I
can find you.
So that's when I started saying, you know
what? I don't wanna do this. I'm not
playing anymore. I'm gonna be serious about life
until I try to figure this out. I
started going to the library. I started reading
books on philosophy to overcome
some of the things that I learned in
philosophy class
and reading books on Islam, reading books on
Christianity. So I started reading different religions, reading
more in detail about Islam,
reading about philosophy.
And
reading all that kind of, you know, helped
me
start to address some of the questions that
I used to have, but I never got
good answers. But how is your heart at
this moment? It's
different than it was before because you have
a desire to wanna know Yes. Instead of
covering the truth Exactly. You're open. I'm open
now and and now I'm focusing because you
know what? It's not about the worldly pleasures
anymore. Now it's not about, you know, I'm
not gonna sit there and say, oh, I'll
read one line or if that doesn't make
sense, I'm just gonna go go go to
a rave and just, you know, not just
just just get rid of it. That's the
difference, you know. So now the difference is
I'm not gonna waste my time. I'm gonna
give as much as I can in my
life to focus on what what needs to
get done. And you had read some of
the top atheist books?
Yes. What kind of what where was your
atheist now? I mean, it was seemed like
it was abandoned you. Was it, yes. I
mean, so what had happened I bought a
book about, you know, critiques of God, the
strongest arguments against God, and a long time
ago I bought it and I'm like, I
can argue I can respond to all this.
So I'm like, okay, let me go when
I was when I was still a Muslim,
I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna show
them that all this is wrong. And when
I was reading it, like, oh, man. This
sounds very intellectual and very rational. I go
to the mosque for Friday prayer. The guy
seems very emotional. He seems to be getting
upset. I said, yeah, this seems like like
I don't I don't have any response to
it. Right? Now, I still got that book
on my shelf but now I'm not just
comparing these things for 10 minutes and then
going and having fun. Now, I'm gonna sit
all day with this book and I'm gonna
go all day and I'm gonna look at
what Islam says. If there's any answers about
it. I'm really gonna sit there and reflect.
I'm gonna, you know, keep on asking God
for guidance
and that makes a world of difference. When
you put some real effort into it and
you have real like sincerity and desire to
actually invest time and effort into it that's
I think what really really, you know, helped
me. That's how that's how God helped me.
Was that the innate nature? You know about
that Oxford study with the 52 plus,
the anthropology department in Oxford. They did a
study saying that innate that belief is innate.
Innate within people. Yes.
Was so was it coming out now? Was
the god the hot spot in your brain,
was that now coming out in it from
your heart, from your consciousness?
Exactly. What happens it was covered up and
it gets covered up by our desires, by
our pleasures, and just running after these things.
Now that I'm like, you know what? This
is not my number one priority in life.
I'm not gonna run after just going eating
in fancy restaurants and just gonna go do
and have fun and all that. Now some
of these layers start coming off and say,
I'm willing to be open now. Now I'm
really gonna go and analyze and that that
natural disposition starts coming back. This is really,
really
interesting. They've actually done, documentaries
of of Muslims, supposed Muslims who are leaving
Islam, and they're kind of in the same
struggles. So I'm sure, you know, those who
are sincere,
they also can truly benefit because you were
there, and now the story is not over.
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Now
do we see this happening
more and more that because you're born in
a family, you don't have that proper direction,
good
examples from, let's say, from your family, teaching
you properly,
and you don't have, that guidance from a
young age, and now you end up kinda
drifting off, the whole world opens up, you
can start going to the raves, to the
night clubs.
Culture, a lot of culture strange things associated
with Islam. They have nothing to do with
Islam. Yeah. And now you have people leaving.
Yeah. Right? It's very common. Uh-huh. It's very,
very common, and I encounter it, you know,
on a regular basis. On a regular basis.
So, like, you know, it's it's it's not
that I'm alone. Almost everywhere I go, I
see people who
literally
that's exactly how I was, and I see
them asking the same kind of questions.
And some of them are interested in interested
in having a further discussion, and others, they
just they just go away from it. So,
you know, I I can see them going
down the same path, and I don't know
if someone had asked me back in the
day that, you know what? Hey. Why don't
you have a conversation or something like that?
I might have ran away as well. So
I don't know what would happen to me.
So I I can relate I can relate
to people and I can almost see exactly
what they're going through. I'm not the only
one who who went through this. Mhmm. But
now now you came back not just an
average Muslim. I mean, you went you'd you're
actually an imam and a a masjid Yes.
Spiritual leader. You you run the college of
Islamic studies.
I mean, how can someone before they get
in a train wreck, car wreck,
maybe die at an after party. Yeah. Who
knows? Because death is a reality and come
at any time. Before they go through all
this drama now, maybe end up no nowhere,
you actually
you ended up somewhere, you know, figuring out
the purpose of life, why you've been created,
you know, on on a path of goodness.
How can someone what let's derive some good
from this story now so people don't make
the same mistake. Yeah. They can avoid all
those, you know, pitfalls. Yeah. I mean, I
I tell people, you know, when I tell
them my story, you know, I don't share
that often, but when I tell them my
story, they almost some people come up to
me and they say, you know, I wish
I had a similar story so that I
could change.
I said, no. This you you don't want
this story. You don't want a near death
experience. You you don't because you might actually
die before you change, and you don't need
to have an experience like this. You don't
need to get into a car accident to
change. This is a way, you know, some
people they have this and they don't change.
Many people go through something similar and they
just go right back into the same life
that they went into. So there's no guarantee
and you don't need this type of experience
to change. If you have a willingness, you
have a sincerity, you have a desire that,
you know what, you you wanna you wanna
look into this more seriously. You realize that,
you know what, it's worth
just investigating
and finding out, you know, what the truth
is, why we've been created in the first
place so that you can figure out that,
you know what, if there's an afterlife, if
God is gonna hold us accountable, if this
is really a test, what can I do
to prepare for that test to make sure
that I pass it, you know? So people
can wake up without these experiences and what
my advice to them would basically be is
take life a little bit more seriously. You
know, there's a lot of distractions. There's a
lot of fun and games. There's gonna be
those friends who come. They try to grab
you and say, come on. Let's just go
have fun, you know. You start you you
attend a class.
You maybe you, you you benefit from a
Friday sermon. You watch a YouTube video and
you're kinda like, yeah. You know, I'm gonna
I'm gonna focus on this. I'm gonna be
interested in this. And then all of a
sudden someone goes, forget all that. Let's just
go watch a movie and you just forget
all of it. This is this is something
that we should be careful about. We need
we really need to reflect upon. Yeah. What
can we do? How can we change ourselves?
And the first step in changing yourself is
with knowledge.
Actually learning properly.
What is the religion of Islam, what is
the ultimate meaning behind these things, what is
the meaning behind these rituals, why are we
doing these things, and go beyond all that
and not get caught up into all these
small things. Okay. What if someone says, look,
you had the knowledge. You had Bukhadi books
on your back and you still left. What
do you say? The thing is there was
no foundation
and the key is to have a good
Islamic foundation because what a foundation does it
basically it contextualizes
everything. I got Bukhari books in front of
me but I don't know how to interpret
these statements that are in there. I don't
even know exactly who Bukhari is. I don't
know when he wrote this book. I don't
know how we know that the prophet, peace
be upon him, actually said these things. So
I just heard that this is authentic, but
I don't have a deep foundation. I don't
know how to interpret the Quran. If I
read it, I don't understand. You know what?
Does this pronoun refer to us? Does it
refer to something else? Who's this talking about?
I it's it talks about, you know, the
Battle of Badr. It says when the incident
happened at Badr. What is Badr? Badr if
you don't have a context, you don't know
any of these things. Right? So it's very
important to have a context and to have
a very wide
understanding like a overview of what Islam is.
So you everything you read, it kinda fits
into, like, a puzzle and you see the
entire thing in front of you. With that
context, you understand Islam properly. What if someone
says we have atheist,
same situation,
maybe his friend got him to watch and
he says, come on all you religious peep
people. I got my Christian friend. He said,
you know, he used to drink, do drugs,
* party, same thing, but he saw Jesus
in a dream now Right. And he's a
born again. What's the difference? Right. The the
difference is that you need, you know people
say, well, I had some personal experience or
something like that. That could be a true
experience. It can be a false experience but
there's got to be a way if
there is a God and if, you know,
if there's a real purpose in life, there's
got to be an objective way of us
being able to figure out what the truth
is. And my response to him would be,
you look around the world. You look at
your own body. You look at everything out
there and you say, you know what? Who
created all these things? You start from the
idea that there's a creator. You start from
the idea that all of this didn't happen
by random chance. The probability of it coming
together and it happening is not very is
not very strong at all. It's it's you
really got to have a leap of faith
to believe in something like that. That all
of this is just a product of chance.
Once you establish belief in the creator and
that there is a God, now you need
to learn about that God. Learn something about
him, and that's when you go and you
look at the different scriptures, look at the
different religions, and look at the core of
what are these religions actually teaching. And when
you come to Islam, you're gonna find that
it has that pristine message. It has that
message which basically says that there's only one
God. You should worship that one God. And
that God, when he created people, he didn't
just leave them in darkness to just kind
of figure out things on their own, have
fun, maybe some of them will take it
seriously
and he didn't leave it up to people
to kind of wait to have some kind
of spiritual experience where they're gonna, you know,
figure out on their own this is what
God wants me to do or communicating
directly. He sent us guidance and the guidance
is in people who received revelation.
We can objectively
evaluate that revelation, read the Quran, see if
this makes sense. Do the teachings make sense?
We can read the life of the prophet
Muhammad, peace be upon him. We can see
if
he did he have an ulterior motive? Could
he have been a liar? Does he look
like someone who would have made up something
like this and undergo all the difficulties that
he's coming with? So when we use our
minds, we use our intellects, and our hearts
are also, you know, open to this, we
will arrive at the reality
and the conclusion that, you know what, this
is something that makes sense. And that's really
what a lot of people say when they
when they when they look at Islam. They
come from other religions, other backgrounds, and they're
like none of this really made sense. When
you study Islam in a proper way within
its proper context,
the thing that people always say, it just
makes sense. It just makes sense. It makes
sense. It just makes sense. And tell us,
we're out of time. In short, I've I've
really benefited from the College of Islamic Studies.
Tell us a little bit in short about
this and how people can go ahead. This
is this is a great place to start
also now. Yes. So I mean the the
College of Islamic Studies is really it's a
program where people can attend live or they
can actually take classes online.
And this is designed we have 18 or
19 different classes.
It's designed to give you that foundation in
Islam so that you don't get lost like
I did. So that you understand what the
context is and it prioritizes
what Islamic studies are. Many people, they just
pick up the Quran, start reading. Or they
pick up a hadith book, start reading, but
they don't have any context behind that. And
it's very important to have a context, you
know, beyond all that. So I would recommend
everyone check out our website which is college
islamdot
com. You can enroll in classes. You can
enroll online anywhere you are, any any place
around the world. We have students in different
countries around the world. I recommend that people
at least try a class and I guarantee
that you're gonna benefit and you're gonna see
Islam in a different light. Beautiful. Thank you
so much. Thank you very
much. Peace be with you. Peace be with
you as well. Islam says love all mankind.
That's why we're sharing this message because we
want the best for you, and we want
the best for all mankind.
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